Dreamwave Transformers War and Peace

[jimoinj]

I've a question with the comic Dreamwave's War and Peace. I'm not sure if you guys have seen it, but it has a plot where the autobots and decepticons on Cybertron are united under Shockwave. I don't understand the significance of Scourge in the series. He is said by Shockwave to be a fugitive. But he first comes to the autobots and tells them the war is over and Shockwave is in charge, before being shot in the back. Then there is a flashback with Shockwave fighting Scourge thousands of years in the past. What is all of that about, anyone know?

[GoktimusPrime]

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/War_and_Peace

[Paulbot]

From the wiki
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scourge_%28G1%29#Dreamwave_Generation_One_comics


Scourge managed to find Cybertron during the Great Shutdown, an enforced shutdown of all Transformers on the planet, and managed to reactivate Shockwave for the purpose of observing the Decepticon from afar. However, Shockwave was soon attacked by the Quintesson Sharkticon extermination units left behind on this world. Forced to intervene, Scourge easily destroyed a number of Sharkticons and drove off the rest, saving Shockwave's life. As a way a saying thank you, Shockwave shot Scourge in the back, took him prisoner, dissected him and studied the Unicronian Transformer, gaining great knowledge of Cybertron's origin and its inhabitants.

Scourge (or another drone like him) escaped to Earth and attacked Jetfire and Omega Supreme's shuttle just as it arrived on its mission to search for the missing Ark. Tricking the drone into pursuing an escape pod, Jetfire managed to shutdown the advanced Transformer's systems and was dragging him back to their crashed ship when they were both buried in an avalanche.

Thousands of years later, the Autobots were drawn to the Alaskan shore, right into a trap set by the Decepticons. The Autobots fought desperately to keep the Autobot escape pod out of Megatron's hands, and during the fighting, it was inadvertently activated. Just as the Autobots gained the upper hand, Scourge ordered the combatants to stand down, informing them that the war was over, the factionalism that had divided their race had ended, and Cybertron was now unified under a new leader. Before he could speak further, Shockwave shot him in the back, declaring both Autobots and Decepticons to be war criminals.


Really his only role in issue one and coming to earth was to get the Autobots/Decepticons together so Shockwave and his triple changers could appear.

[jimoinj]

So why would Scourge act on Shockwave's behalf when announcing the war was over when Shockwave considered him a fugitive?

Also, what's the deal with Scourge being separate from the Cybertronian shutdown? In this universe, is it that Unicron created Scourge for some reason and he went to Cybertron to observe Shockwave? What were Scourge's motivations and who was he working for?

[Paulbot]

Dreamwave comics ended abruptly so the answers will never be known.

This is how I take it: in the Dreamwave Universe, Unicron created the Sweeps to find Cybertron which at the time was in status lock, along with all the Transformers on the planet.

One of the Sweeps, Scourge, found Cybertron. His arrival woke up Shockwave which led to everyone eventually being woken up and Cybertron to be in the situation it was in during that story. Scourge probably wanted to see what the planet's inhabitants were like so he could report their threat level to Unicron.

Scourge was only ever working for Unicron and wasn't really a Cybertronian at all. Since Shockwave had experimented on Scourge (and likely done some brainwashing, erasing Scourge's memory of his origin as a herald of Unicron) Shockwave wanted Scourge silenced (hence the 'fugitive' thing) to keep his expierments and secret plans from being revealed.

[UltraMagnus]

Dreamwave comics ended abruptly so the answers will never be known.

This is how I take it: in the Dreamwave Universe, Unicron created the Sweeps to find Cybertron which at the time was in status lock, along with all the Transformers on the planet.

One of the Sweeps, Scourge, found Cybertron. His arrival woke up Shockwave which led to everyone eventually being woken up and Cybertron to be in the situation it was in during that story. Scourge probably wanted to see what the planet's inhabitants were like so he could report their threat level to Unicron.

Scourge was only ever working for Unicron and wasn't really a Cybertronian at all. Since Shockwave had experimented on Scourge (and likely done some brainwashing, erasing Scourge's memory of his origin as a herald of Unicron) Shockwave wanted Scourge silenced (hence the 'fugitive' thing) to keep his expierments and secret plans from being revealed.



Excellent description

I personally prefer the DW universe. It was very closely connected to the cartoon and thats why it was so successful. A shame they had idiots for bosses, otherwise the series would have been a bigger success

[jimoinj]

So what's the deal with the Quintessons and Sharkiticons? Was it following the cartoon's continuity where they were former masters of cybertron? Or something else, to do with Unicron?

[Paulbot]

A bit of both. Maybe. Flash was last seen marooned on Quintessa during the Age of Wrath. It was implied IIRC that Megatron had made a deal with them. The Quintessons were responsible for the odd female Transformers (was Arcee a sleeper agent?).

They left Sharkticons (or at least Gnaw) behind during the Shutdown so maybe they came to the planet, stole bodies and sold them as robot equipment (like the cartoon).

The Quintessons were just about to make their main appearance when Dreamwave folded.

[jimoinj]

Okay, last question on this - did they at all release a graphic novel of the follow up to War and Peace?

Cheers!

[Paulbot]

The follow up was a 10 issue (+0 + Special) ongoing series.

"The first six issues would have been titled "Ascension" when collected into a trade paperback (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generation_One_%28Dreamwave_comic%29)" but then Dreamwave folded.

IDW has reprinted a bunch of Dreamwave stuff, but not the ongoing so far. And that's a shame as the follow up was a really good TF comic.