View Full Version : New Masterpiece MP-10 coming in September
KaRNiV8L PRiME
22nd April 2011, 01:32 AM
SOURCE (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/new-masterpiece-coming-in-september---mp-10-171957/)
Reports are coming in about the next Masterpiece figure from Japan.
According to Joel from BigBadToyStore.com, who called it "MP-10"
We’ve just received word from Japan that the Transformers MP-10 will be released in September, the retail price in Japan is 22,000 yen, we have preorders listed at $249.99
The name has currently not yet been released, but we were told it is a ‘New’ figure and the name will be revealed soon.
Some are suggesting a new convoy, possibly powermaster!!!
No pictures yet. Just a placeholder blank image. Obviously "New" is not the full name, but It might lend credence to the rumors that the next MP is an all-new Convoy mold, as in "New Convoy". The retail price translates to about $278.50 USD. Whatever this puppy is, it's either a multi-pack, or BIG.
Doubledealer
22nd April 2011, 01:49 AM
Lugnut Supreme? :p
kaiden
22nd April 2011, 02:12 AM
its............. MP ERECTOR!
Tober
22nd April 2011, 03:02 AM
BBTS description says "long awaited". That and the price point would imply MP Soundwave to me. Still conspicuously absent from the MP line. The high price point could imply electronics and maybe minions...
I can dream can't I?
Deceptic_Optic
22nd April 2011, 05:42 AM
bumblebee? jazz? soundwave? or another dinobot?
d*r*j*
22nd April 2011, 06:56 AM
Could it be Galvatron?
swoop
22nd April 2011, 07:10 AM
It would be awesome if it was soundwave and his cassettes but as much as I want that I dont think it is or that we will be getting it any time soon.
With dotm coming out it would be a good time to do shockwave but again I don't think it'll be him either.
Theres a fair few rumours going around that it'll be another optimus prime and if its true and I think it is I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.
canofwhoopass_87
22nd April 2011, 08:51 AM
Another Optimus would be pretty anti climactic, Powermaster or not. Going alone the lines of Mr Tober, "..long awaited" would definitely be implying a much more well known/iconic character.
My guess is either MP Soundwave (with cassettes) or Galvatron. I reckon it's gona be a Decepticon character. The high price tag hints something big though. Maybe Devastator :D? *wishful thinking*
kup
22nd April 2011, 09:07 AM
I am guessing Galvatron to go along with Rodimus. It's a very close together release so maybe it is a delayed 2010 celebration figure.
gamblor916
22nd April 2011, 09:32 AM
It's big at 2 per case. Soundwave+ would be sweet but I do hope it's not another Convoy or movie related.
canofwhoopass_87
22nd April 2011, 09:55 AM
Nah I think they've learnt their lesson with movie MP's. Well I hope so anyway :p
dirge
22nd April 2011, 10:27 AM
Another Optimus would be pretty anti climactic, Powermaster or not.
I agree with this statement.
The smart ass in me wants to suggest that it'll be Time Warrior, but I'm more hoping it's a gestalt team (probably Devastator), Galvatron or Blitzwing.
Hursticon
22nd April 2011, 11:34 AM
Quoted from Seibertron.com (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/masterpiece-10-optimus-prime/21368/):
Anticipation is building as to just who and what the recently announced Masterpiece MP-10 is.
Anonymous sources (and a little bit of reasoned guess work) reveal this upcoming MP figure to be none other than Optimus Prime with an improved trailer (ala MP-04). Details as we know to be rumored:
All new mold
Robot-mode size close to the i-Gear Faith Leader KO
Improved overall robot-mode and design
Better looking, more cartoon accurate head
Die-cast parts
Trailer
Truck-mode more convincing and realistic than MP 01
Truck-mode windscreen and grill better aligned than on previous G1 Optimus Prime toys
Accessories have not been decided upon yet
This is of course as of yet not 100% confirmed, our source may be mistaken as to some of the key details, but then again the same source has delivered reliable information about DOTM Leader Class Ironhide, Sentinel Prime, etc...
So yea, we're pretty sure this is true, but take it with a grain of salt - and watch that blood pressure...
HasTakTom Fail! :rolleyes:
If it is a MP PM Prime, that might make it a little better but I would've preferred anyone over another friggin' Prime! :mad:
KaRNiV8L PRiME
22nd April 2011, 11:39 AM
I wouldn't mind a PM-OP but I think it will be UM!
Zippo
22nd April 2011, 11:49 AM
Man thats one expensive toy!!
Doubledealer
22nd April 2011, 12:02 PM
I call bullsh**. Surely they wouldn't release another MP Prime before Soundwave, Galvatron, Kup etc
ITZTRU
22nd April 2011, 12:26 PM
I wouldn't mind a PM-OP but I think it will be UM!
THIS is sounding quite fitting! And would be awesome! As much as I'd prefer a Decepticon this time, UM with armour would be sweeeeeet! But pleeeeeease. I dont care if it's PM or not...just not another freakin Optimus Prime :( :( :(
Hursticon
22nd April 2011, 12:35 PM
I call bullsh**. Surely they wouldn't release another MP Prime before Soundwave, Galvatron, Kup etc
I'd like to think not but... :rolleyes:
Seriously, an MP Soundwave with the following MPs being Twin-Boxed MP Casettes? - Who wouldn't be all over that like a Fly to... ;)
(Or is that just me thinking Soundwave = Superior? :p:D)
Tallestblue
22nd April 2011, 12:41 PM
*sigh* My dream of a box set of Deluxe sized Constructicons is still just a dream.
kup
22nd April 2011, 12:43 PM
Anticipation is building as to just who and what the recently announced Masterpiece MP-10 is.
Anonymous sources (and a little bit of reasoned guess work) reveal this upcoming MP figure to be none other than Optimus Prime with an improved trailer (ala MP-04). Details as we know to be rumored:
All new mold
Robot-mode size close to the i-Gear Faith Leader KO
Improved overall robot-mode and design
Better looking, more cartoon accurate head
Die-cast parts
Trailer
Truck-mode more convincing and realistic than MP 01
Truck-mode windscreen and grill better aligned than on previous G1 Optimus Prime toys
Accessories have not been decided upon yet
This is of course as of yet not 100% confirmed, our source may be mistaken as to some of the key details, but then again the same source has delivered reliable information about DOTM Leader Class Ironhide, Sentinel Prime, etc...
So yea, we're pretty sure this is true, but take it with a grain of salt - and watch that blood pressure...
Lame! I already have an MP Prime, 2 actually..3 if you count Magnus. I don't need another MP Prime.
kup
22nd April 2011, 12:45 PM
I call bullsh**. Surely they wouldn't release another MP Prime before Soundwave, Galvatron, Kup etc
Don't underestimate Takara's obsession with Prime.
Ode to a Grasshopper
22nd April 2011, 01:00 PM
I wouldn't mind an official Faith Leader-sized Prime.
Doubledealer
22nd April 2011, 03:34 PM
I'd like to think not but... :rolleyes:
Seriously, an MP Soundwave with the following MPs being Twin-Boxed MP Casettes? - Who wouldn't be all over that like a Fly to... ;)
(Or is that just me thinking Soundwave = Superior? :p:D)
Soundwave as the next Decepticon MP makes the most sense to me too. You've got Megatron, his second in command: Starscream but where's the communications officer? Make it happen HasTak! :D
Having said that, I'd love for this 'bigger, more expensive' package to be revealed as MP Overlord. I can't think of anything cooler!
Darthprimus
22nd April 2011, 03:52 PM
My monies are on a MP Galvatron. second guess would be a Soundwave. as far as im concerned its been long awaited as there isn't one galv mold I actually like accept the little robot heroes galvatron.
VERT
22nd April 2011, 05:33 PM
Im all for Soundwave. But I would love them to start doing the other Dinobots and Galvatron would be fantastic. :D
But please not another Prime
Verno
22nd April 2011, 06:29 PM
I have no interest in the line generally, but even I don't want another Prime!
Giving the fans what they want, I thought thats what the line was about?!
KaRNiV8L PRiME
22nd April 2011, 06:50 PM
SOURCE (http://famitoy.blogspot.com/2011/04/pre-order-takaratomy-masterpiece-mp-10.html)
Pre-order: TakaraTomy Masterpiece MP-10 Convoy Ver.2
Transformers Masterpiece MP-10 Convoy Ver.2
Japan Retail Price: 22000Yen
*Picture to be revealed soon*
valkyrie_76
22nd April 2011, 07:51 PM
SOURCE (http://famitoy.blogspot.com/2011/04/pre-order-takaratomy-masterpiece-mp-10.html)
Heh....milking the cow man, milking the cow :D
Doubledealer
22nd April 2011, 07:53 PM
SOURCE (http://famitoy.blogspot.com/2011/04/pre-order-takaratomy-masterpiece-mp-10.html)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wNJtF1XNe8Y/SJmC6C2gp2I/AAAAAAAAAfA/9AAOCq6Zero/s400/lolcat.jpg
Tober
22nd April 2011, 08:03 PM
Can't say I'm surprised, except about the price. How can it be worth 22000 JPY? :confused:
If it's great I'll bite, but DAMN! :mad:
Hursticon
22nd April 2011, 08:54 PM
Well, all I can say is that it doesn't take long (http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP10&lang=us&CatID=) these days. :rolleyes:
jaydisc
22nd April 2011, 09:23 PM
lame lame lame
gdmetro
22nd April 2011, 10:09 PM
Hmm... is this a fixed version of MP Convoy? That is, smaller sized, new mould perhaps?
Thing is... how can they? I thought the recent release was the "final" one...
Ill wait for pics before making further judgments. :rolleyes:
5FDP
22nd April 2011, 10:11 PM
After MP Rodimus my interest in the line has gone south. The only way I would consider buying another MP would be if Shockwave was released.
Doubledealer
22nd April 2011, 10:13 PM
It would make sense
And this is why it won't happen. :p
Vector Prime
22nd April 2011, 10:16 PM
There's more likelihood of a MP Soundwave before a Shockwave I reckon (I hope) :p
5FDP
22nd April 2011, 10:25 PM
And this is why it won't happen. :p
Yeah, but I can dream :( I wouldn't even complain if they put a dirty-big orange cap on him.
There's more likelihood of a MP Soundwave before a Shockwave I reckon (I hope) :p
I could live with a MP Soundwave. Given the price point of MP-10, he would have to be a working cassette player :p
liegeprime
22nd April 2011, 10:56 PM
Heh....milking the cow man, milking the cow :D
Its already bleeding, stop milking the darn cow Hastaktom!!:p
ITZTRU
23rd April 2011, 12:30 AM
SOURCE (http://famitoy.blogspot.com/2011/04/pre-order-takaratomy-masterpiece-mp-10.html)
Woo. Hoo. All new convoy. Now with official TakaraTomy Roller.
Malibu Stacey. New hat.
Doubledealer
23rd April 2011, 12:32 AM
Whens that 'Stan Bush - Hasbro out of Touch' remix come out again? :p
griffin
23rd April 2011, 01:33 AM
Maybe this smaller version was the answer to the request for a proper MP Ultra Magnus, which would have been too big and expensive if done with the bigger, original Convoy/Optimus mould.
It's just a pity that it is being released under a banner that suggests 'one-off' centrepiece examples of iconic characters... it kinda cheapens that ideology by generating a second, smaller toy of a character already (heavily featured) in the line.
Tober
23rd April 2011, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I'm expecting something similar to what Yamato did with their going from the 1/48 to 1/60 Ver.2 Valkyries. They basically refined proportions and fixed problems that existed in the larger scale mold. One of the problems was incomparability between some armor parts.
I welcome a better Masterpiece Prime. Just not the inevitable repaints.
I also kinda approve of the way they are REALLY giving the finger to iGear. Hopefully we will see the MP Seeker Coneheads soon too.
Verno
23rd April 2011, 05:38 PM
It still might all be a ploy to throw us off the scent.
Come on Masterpiece Tigerhawk!
Hursticon
23rd April 2011, 07:37 PM
Come on Masterpiece Tigerhawk!
Whoocha Talkin' 'Bout Verno!?! - Beast Wars, Supreme Class - Tigerhawk IS a Masterpiece. :p;)
Verno
23rd April 2011, 09:05 PM
Whoocha Talkin' 'Bout Verno!?! - Beast Wars, Supreme Class - Tigerhawk IS a Masterpiece. :p;)
He's good, but he's not quite a Masterpiece. There are a few things that Takara could improve I'm sure, if they tried hard enough.
Hursticon
23rd April 2011, 09:07 PM
He's good, but he's not quite a Masterpiece. There are a few things that Takara could improve I'm sure, if they tried hard enough.
Like a Masterpiece Dinobot II?... Huh?, Huh? :D
Verno
23rd April 2011, 09:24 PM
Nah, the G1-ers can keep the Masterpiece line for now, they've had enough disappointments.
Just give me 30 more show accurate BW statues using the Mainframe models. That'll make them jealous!
kup
23rd April 2011, 11:01 PM
Maybe this smaller version was the answer to the request for a proper MP Ultra Magnus, which would have been too big and expensive if done with the bigger, original Convoy/Optimus mould.
It's just a pity that it is being released under a banner that suggests 'one-off' centrepiece examples of iconic characters... it kinda cheapens that ideology by generating a second, smaller toy of a character already (heavily featured) in the line.
I hope this is the case and there is a 'complete' Magnus but I seriously doubt it.
1orion2many
24th April 2011, 02:50 AM
:DBumblebee isn't it obvious:D
liegeprime
24th April 2011, 07:41 AM
I want the rest of the dinobots....:(:(
SharkyMcShark
24th April 2011, 10:54 AM
Maybe one day they'll release another MP that's the right combination of interesting and not broken that will make me extend my investment in the line beyond G1 and Movie Starscream
Eazy D
25th April 2011, 09:04 PM
I'm saddened
I was hoping for an MP galvatron in scale with rodimus
At that price point I even had faint hopes of an MP devastator.
A reworked prime is a major let down. The only thing that would save this for me is if they eventually used the smaller scale to make an ultra magnus armour set. PROPER MAGNUS PARTS!....not just a white prime repaint.
kup
25th April 2011, 10:52 PM
I want the rest of the dinobots....:(:(
Seems that HasTak would prefer if the line was only composed of Bumblebees and Primes.
Having yet another Prime feels like such a waste of creativity.
GoktimusPrime
26th April 2011, 12:02 AM
Seems that HasTak would prefer if the line was only composed of Bumblebees and Primes.
Having yet another Prime feels like such a waste of creativity.
Make it Ginrai! (would make more sense for the Japanese market too since Powermaster Prime never existed in Japan)
griffin
26th April 2011, 12:02 AM
Of the non-Movie JP MPs (http://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/japanesemasterpiece.html), there have been 7 of the 16 using the Convoy/Optimus mould. I'm glad they announced that one was the 'Final' Version, or else we'd think they'd be milking that mould forever.
At least Hasbro only used the Optimus mould twice for their 5 (6 if including Rodimus) MP toys. Hmmm, it's still a significant percentage on both sides.
1orion2many
26th April 2011, 12:26 AM
Keeping costs down to maximise profits is my guess with all the Primes:rolleyes:
KillinSpoon
26th April 2011, 03:27 PM
Ahh well, easy pass.
gdmetro
26th April 2011, 03:43 PM
Pre-order up at RK for $220:
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFTRMP10&lang=us&CatID
Titled: MP 10 Convoy ver. 2.0
Pre-order, release on September 2011.
MP-10 comes with a human figure that can fit into the driver sit.
It is a new mold, smaller figure/trailer than MP-04, but more Japan animate look!
So its a new mould that is smaller scale! If this is mould is decent I might start collecting mps... :p
kup
26th April 2011, 05:09 PM
Make it Ginrai! (would make more sense for the Japanese market too since Powermaster Prime never existed in Japan)
A Powermaster/Ginrai mold would be the best scenario but I doubt it would happen.
Pre-order up at RK for $220:
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFTRMP10&lang=us&CatID
Titled: MP 10 Convoy ver. 2.0
Pre-order, release on September 2011.
MP-10 comes with a human figure that can fit into the driver sit.
It is a new mold, smaller figure/trailer than MP-04, but more Japan animate look!
So its a new mould that is smaller scale! If this is mould is decent I might start collecting mps... :p
A human? Maybe this is a movie mold unless he comes with a Spike/Sparkplug figure but still at $220 it doesn't sound as if it will be worth it. Rodimus was pretty expensive but he was so flawed that it was easy for someone to feel short changed due to it being so expensive for what you got.
Ode to a Grasshopper
26th April 2011, 05:52 PM
I'm so getting it.
I don't have an MP Prime yet and prefer the Faith Leader size for scale reasons, but could never quite bring myself to buy what is really just a downsized copy.
MP-10 comes with a human figure that can fit into the driver sit.
It is a new mold, smaller figure/trailer than MP-04, but more Japan animate look!Perhaps TakTom could be extending the HA gimmick like it's been doing with the c-clip weapons. Does anyone have a Faith Leader and a Human Alliance figure?
If so, can we haz pics of their vehicle modes and FL with the HA human for scale comparison please?:)
ITZTRU
26th April 2011, 06:09 PM
disappointed. oh well. save me some money.
SharkyMcShark
26th April 2011, 06:19 PM
If it's a MP01 Prime size and budget Movie Prime I'd probably shell out for it
Lord_Zed
26th April 2011, 07:14 PM
Without pics it's all speculation, It'll have to be something to make me buy another Prime, however it is possible.
Aside from the head I don't see how you can get Prime looking more like the cartoon than he already does.
Tober
26th April 2011, 09:22 PM
Aside from the head I don't see how you can get Prime looking more like the cartoon than he already does.
I think it was stated that they're fixing his cab mode and including Roller. :)
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The beauty of MP-1 was that it was roughly in scale with the Binaltech line. So if this new one is smaller it won't fit with HA either, but might work with Grimlock and the Seekers.
jaydisc
26th April 2011, 09:26 PM
Rightfully so. Cab mode is abysmal, especially for a masterpiece. The latest RtS Legend has a better cab mode.
UltraMagnus
26th April 2011, 10:34 PM
I have been advised from contacts the human figure for MP-10 is Spike
Price tag = $249.99
Rumor = Fortress Maximus....
only possible explanation at that cost.
kaiden
26th April 2011, 10:44 PM
I have been advised from contacts the human figure for MP-10 is Spike
Price tag = $249.99
Rumor = Fortress Maximus....
only possible explanation at that cost.
from reading around, it still seems to be Optimus Prime - human alliance style with proper seating for the human figure.
But fortress maximus sounds better.
gdmetro
26th April 2011, 10:47 PM
Judging from what RK have posted... it is definitely a new convoy/prime mould. It has a figure- could be spike for the drivers seat- and is resized into a smaller cab/trailer. It is a new mould- whether that be a retooling of the old mpor a completely new design ( I think the latter).
Definitely not Fortress Maximus- although that would be sweet. Consider the cost of MP Rodimus was already about $200...
kup
26th April 2011, 10:57 PM
As unlikely as it is likely to be, Fort Max would be a must while yet another Prime is just meh. However I believe the rumor that the human may be Spike in his regular cartoon persona even if he is not a Headmaster.
Tober
26th April 2011, 11:41 PM
I have been advised from contacts the human figure for MP-10 is Spike
Price tag = $249.99
Rumor = Fortress Maximus....
only possible explanation at that cost.
RRP for MP-4 was ¥18000, and that was 5 years ago. Add inflation and ¥23100 is roughly consistent.
GoktimusPrime
26th April 2011, 11:51 PM
If it is Optimus Prime Powermaster, then couldn't the "human" figure be Hi-Q? (or human Ginrai)
Although I would love to see HasTak release proper action figures for Transformer humans like Spike, Sparkplug - and yes, even Daniel. Whether it be in 10cm scale (thus "compatible" with GI Joe ARAH, Star Wars etc.) or 30cm scale (that way we can play dress up dollsaction figures ;))
ITZTRU
26th April 2011, 11:52 PM
Rightfully so. Cab mode is abysmal, especially for a masterpiece. The latest RtS Legend has a better cab mode.
Really? Is that the general consensus? Why? What's wrong with it?
GoktimusPrime
27th April 2011, 12:07 AM
Rodimus was pretty expensive but he was so flawed that it was easy for someone to feel short changed due to it being so expensive for what you got.
Yeah, I saw MP Rodimus in 2 or 3 collectible stores the other day. Man that was an easy pass. I actually had a harder time deliberating when it was up for pre-order, but having seen it IRL (albeit only MISB) ... wasn't compelled to get it.
optimus1
27th April 2011, 12:29 AM
Another Optimus Prime??
I'd love for this to be a Powermaster Prime or even God Ginrai (with Godbomber) :D
Even better if it were somehow a proper Ultra Magnus.
I'm still satisfied with the original MP 1.0/20th Anniversary Prime, he is still my favourite figure and what got me officially hooked onto Transformers again :cool:
Tober
27th April 2011, 01:52 AM
Really? Is that the general consensus? Why? What's wrong with it?
The front panels not lining up is the main issue. The gas canisters are way too small. Wheels are too small. If you're going for anime accuracy then the headlights should be square, not round. Side windows don't have glass and don't open or even line up properly... In short, the truck mode was sacrificed for the more accurate bot mode.
Here are some comparison pics. It is neither accurate to the real life Freightliner FL86 Cab it was based off origionaly or the art used for the cartoon.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/op_2.jpg
1orion2many
27th April 2011, 11:08 AM
I still like MP-01,04. I'm not overly impressed of having another Prime even if they do improve the original. I love the MP line but I'll be hard pressed to justify spending the amount of money they are asking for just to myself and if I can't convince myself then I have no hope of swaying my wife on me purchasing this item:o:D
valkyrie_76
27th April 2011, 11:44 AM
.........no hope of swaying my wife on me purchasing this item:o:D
Has not stopped you before :D:D:D
1orion2many
27th April 2011, 01:04 PM
Has not stopped you before :D:D:D
She is starting to recognise new items I sneak in:(:D
jaydisc
27th April 2011, 02:49 PM
Really? Is that the general consensus? Why? What's wrong with it?
I actually always felt I was in the minority with that opinion. But yeah, #1 is the fact the front facia of the cab is not flat. The front facia of G1 Prime is flat. How could this be so badly done with what is an alleged masterpiece? To me, #1 is sooo bad, I don't even know what #2 is.
Jay-Tron
27th April 2011, 09:36 PM
While I'm not too impressed by the idea of another Prime I'm still interested in how this ones gonna turn out. If they make it right and it looks awesome then I may be compelled to get it. So for now I'll wait for some pics to show up.
ITZTRU
27th April 2011, 10:09 PM
I actually always felt I was in the minority with that opinion. But yeah, #1 is the fact the front facia of the cab is not flat. The front facia of G1 Prime is flat. How could this be so badly done with what is an alleged masterpiece? To me, #1 is sooo bad, I don't even know what #2 is.
I think...that...I actually hate you now. I don't think it ever really bothered me until now. And to be honest, I don't think I ever really noticed it, either. And now I just keep looking at my "masterpiece" Prime and think. Holy sh*t. Jaydisc is right. Sad times :(
kup
27th April 2011, 11:42 PM
I noticed the cab flaws on MP1 early on but frankly it doesn't bother me one bit. Even if they do release another '84' Prime with a proper cab shape, it still doesn't convince me.
ITZTRU
28th April 2011, 12:00 AM
I noticed the cab flaws on MP1 early on but frankly it doesn't bother me one bit. Even if they do release another '84' Prime with a proper cab shape, it still doesn't convince me.
Convince you to buy another Prime mold u mean? (Assuming MP-10 is infact another Prime?)
jaydisc
28th April 2011, 08:49 AM
I think...that...I actually hate you now. I don't think it ever really bothered me until now. And to be honest, I don't think I ever really noticed it, either. And now I just keep looking at my "masterpiece" Prime and think. Holy sh*t. Jaydisc is right. Sad times :(
Ha ha. My apologies and condolences.
My Hong Kong official supplier order form clearly states:
"MP-10 Convoy Ver.2.0 - RRP 22,000 JPY - SEPT 2011"
So, I'm now 100% convinced that it is indeed Convoy.
optimus1
28th April 2011, 10:15 AM
My Hong Kong official supplier order form clearly states:
"MP-10 Convoy Ver.2.0 - RRP 22,000 JPY - SEPT 2011"
So, I'm now 100% convinced that it is indeed Convoy.
:(
Hopefully this new version justifies its inflated price.
Still distant hope for a Powermaster Prime :rolleyes:
Ode to a Grasshopper
28th April 2011, 12:39 PM
:(
Hopefully this new version justifies its inflated price.
Still distant hope for a Powermaster Prime :rolleyes:"Dear Santa FansProject, for Christmas this year I would like..."
canofwhoopass_87
28th April 2011, 05:51 PM
If this smaller re-design somehow paves the way for a true G1 armoured Ultra Magnus then I'm all for it. Whether or not that happens though...:rolleyes:
I wouldn't be too impressed if MP10 is significantly smaller than the original MP Prime...wouldn't want the skinny legged Megs towering over the little guy
Darthprimus
30th April 2011, 09:49 AM
Not sure if its been mentioned but the latest rk newsletter says it comes with a human driver.
Vector Prime
30th April 2011, 09:57 AM
Not sure if its been mentioned but the latest rk newsletter says it comes with a human driver.
Mentioned in post #68 (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=236171#post236171) but it's understandable that some people may have missed reading it. :)
kup
30th April 2011, 10:44 AM
Convince you to buy another Prime mold u mean? (Assuming MP-10 is infact another Prime?)
That's what I mean
kup
30th April 2011, 10:48 AM
"Dear Santa FansProject, for Christmas this year I would like..."
If FansProject announces Powermaster armor for this mold that would most likely convince me to buy one ;)
Unfortunately this still doesn't convince me that yet another '84' Prime is such a hot idea. Even with the hopeful armor, it would still be lame and relying on a 3rd party product to make it something special.
SkyWarp91
30th April 2011, 04:51 PM
Any hints on MP Rodimus' packaging?
yoshi594
1st May 2011, 04:46 PM
cheapest place to pre-order? i'm thinkin of robotkingdom once I get more moolah. Anyone know of cheaper (inc. postage) places to get the new masterpiece?
KaRNiV8L PRiME
2nd May 2011, 10:05 PM
SOURCE (http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content.php?395-More-Information-on-Transformers-Masterpiece-MP-10-Convoy)
More details reach us via the wholesale route confirming some more details on the new MP-10 Convoy figure due this September
1) Confirmed G1 Convoy - not powermaster - comes with cab and trailer
2) Much more detail along the lines of THS-02 Convoy - many accessories
3) Approx one third shorter than the existing MP-01 Convoy figure
ITZTRU
2nd May 2011, 11:23 PM
Freakin' lame. I don't know if I should be happy about saving my money or upset that I don't get to spend on the latest masterpiece who I thought was going to be ANYONE ELSE BUT OPTIMUS-FREAKING-PRIME!!!!!!
UltraMarginal
2nd May 2011, 11:47 PM
Freakin' lame. I don't know if I should be happy about saving my money or upset that I don't get to spend on the latest masterpiece who I thought was going to be ANYONE ELSE BUT OPTIMUS-FREAKING-PRIME!!!!!!
I've got to agree here, another prime is just a waste of plastic. they should be moving the masterpiece line forwards, a new character, Galvatron, a quality Ironhide, a fort max or other larger character would be great, even someone like Kup, Arcee or more dinobots would be better than another prime.
ITZTRU
2nd May 2011, 11:54 PM
I was SO convinced it was going to be Galvatron. SO SO convinced! How could it NOT be after releasing Hot Rod/Rodimus? I don't care how crap the mold was, Rodimus was a good move. I'm not the biggest fan of rodimus as a character but I was ALL over the MP toy.
Weaksauce.
SkyWarp91
3rd May 2011, 01:41 PM
I've got to agree here, another prime is just a waste of plastic. they should be moving the masterpiece line forwards, a new character, Galvatron, a quality Ironhide, a fort max or other larger character would be great, even someone like Kup, Arcee or more dinobots would be better than another prime.
Freakin' lame. I don't know if I should be happy about saving my money or upset that I don't get to spend on the latest masterpiece who I thought was going to be ANYONE ELSE BUT OPTIMUS-FREAKING-PRIME!!!!!!
Yeah, I just got the MP-04 and then found out about this - not only is it a waste of plastic but metal too. Though TakTom probably did this to coincide with the release of DOTM and gives new fans the opputunity to buy a G1 Prime. Though I am dissapointed that we don't have a MP Galvatron yet, or a proper G1 Ultra Magnus
jaydisc
3rd May 2011, 08:47 PM
The existing Prime & Megs don't really fit in with the other MPs. I wouldn't be surprised if TT feels that there is a lot of future in the MP line, and thus needs to correct the first two molds to be proper frontmen for the line.
I still can't fathom what alt mode they'd give a Masterpiece Galvatron or Soundwave. It's not that I wouldn't want one; I just understand the challenge.
ITZTRU
3rd May 2011, 09:08 PM
I still can't fathom what alt mode they'd give a Masterpiece Galvatron or Soundwave. It's not that I wouldn't want one; I just understand the challenge.
Why wouldn't they be anything other than a classic tape deck or futuristic canon respectively? The MP line (aside from the movieverse figures) has so far followed the actual G1 cartoon trend of bot and alt modes -- only more detailed and accurate (as much as possible)
I don't see why they would consider giving soundwave and galvatron different alt modes. And I sure as hell hope they dont either! Thats what classics, generations, united etc line is for!
Tetsuwan Convoy
3rd May 2011, 09:11 PM
I still can't fathom what alt mode they'd give a Masterpiece Galvatron or Soundwave. It's not that I wouldn't want one; I just understand the challenge.
Maybe a cannon or cassette player? They gave Grimlock a robot Dinosaur mode.
I was under the impression that the MP line was about bringing the characters to life with a pretty spot on toy. I doubt they would go messing with them that much (Starscream Abomnination aside)
Ode to a Grasshopper
3rd May 2011, 10:52 PM
The more I hear about this the more I wants it. Bring on next week's pics!
ITZTRU
3rd May 2011, 11:41 PM
there are pics next week?
KaRNiV8L PRiME
4th May 2011, 12:06 AM
there are pics next week?
Yup
SOURCE (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/masterpiece-convoy-version-2-to-be-unveiled-soon-172059/)
ITZTRU
4th May 2011, 12:28 AM
thanks for that.
I am curious, I must admit. But I still don't know about the price tag!
I mean, ok:
- Driver
- Roller
- More detailed and accurate cab
- More detailed and accurate trailer
- A few more accessories so play around with
what the hell else could they include to warrant the price tag? coz that to me, sure as hell isnt enough.
it'd have to be something unbelievable for me to even consider buying this "new" mold of a character that has been re-issued and re-deco'd countless times in the same line in just a span of a couple of years.
ITZTRU
4th May 2011, 12:29 AM
...or maybe I just really wanted a Galvatron :(
Tetsuwan Convoy
4th May 2011, 12:52 AM
...or maybe I just really wanted a Galvatron :(
You're not the only one...
Ode to a Grasshopper
4th May 2011, 01:37 AM
thanks for that.
I am curious, I must admit. But I still don't know about the price tag!
I mean, ok:
- Driver
- Roller
- More detailed and accurate cab
- More detailed and accurate trailer
- A few more accessories so play around with
what the hell else could they include to warrant the price tag? coz that to me, sure as hell isnt enough.
it'd have to be something unbelievable for me to even consider buying this "new" mold of a character that has been re-issued and re-deco'd countless times in the same line in just a span of a couple of years.The main reason I'm looking forward to it is 'cos I don't have any MP Primes or Faith Leader, and this sounds like an improvement on both - and 'cos it'll work better with more normal sized TFs which make up the bulk of the Odieverse. The fact I'm likely to be teaching English in Japan when it comes out helps too.;)
The thing is, it's likely aimed at the Japanese collector market where Convoys apparently always sell well, and presumably to match the scale of the more recent MPs better. The fact that so many Western fans aren't interested is a bonus IMO, it means it should be easier to get one at sale prices.
If I had an MP Prime or Faith Leader already I'd probably be skipping on it too.
You're not the only one...Yeah, a MP Galvatron would be very cool.
Tober
4th May 2011, 04:03 AM
MP-1 and Binaltech are what got me back into Transformers back in 2003. MP Convoy was a great achievement for Takara's designers and has been their flagship design for Transformers for alomst a decade. If they are creating a better flagship, then I'm looking forward to it. :)
optimus1
4th May 2011, 10:08 AM
Even though it is a G1 Prime, we still shouldn't knock it until we see it.
Hopefully this version is more articulated, cartoon accurate (even though the existing one is very close) and still very robust and sturdy.
Out of the MP molds, only Prime and Grimlock seem to be able to withstand repeated transformations without fear of something snapping :p
Lord_Zed
4th May 2011, 01:21 PM
Yeah I'd also like to see a Galvatron toy, but oh well...
The existing Prime & Megs don't really fit in with the other MPs. I wouldn't be surprised if TT feels that there is a lot of future in the MP line, and thus needs to correct the first two molds to be proper frontmen for the line.
I still can't fathom what alt mode they'd give a Masterpiece Galvatron or Soundwave. It's not that I wouldn't want one; I just understand the challenge.
I think its more a case there are two scales in the MP line, one for Leaders like Optimus, Megs and Rodimus, and then another for everybody else. One might even argue that the smaller MP's Grimlock and the seekers are more detailed than there more cartoony but simpler larger counterparts too, so yeah perhaps this Prime belongs to the smaller sub group of MP's
MP-1 and Binaltech are what got me back into Transformers back in 2003. MP Convoy was a great achievement for Takara's designers and has been their flagship design for Transformers for alomst a decade. If they are creating a better flagship, then I'm looking forward to it. :)
Good point, I'm reserving judgement till I see the toy, speaking of Binaltechs I wonder how this guy will scale with Alternities and Deluxes. MP 1 Prime scaled well with the Binaltechs in Truck mode, untill your transfromed him, I know Prime is big, but he's not that big.
This Prime could go either way, not long ago Rodimus was tipped to be the best MP ever, and look what happned, perhaps this will be the oppisite.
Still I've only bought one MP Prime (MP1), If I had bought MP1 and the MP rerelease with Trailer, reapints, and that unmentionable knock off one then I'd be less than thrilled even if the new Prime is good.
valkyrie_76
4th May 2011, 01:23 PM
Ill be interested in seeing the final product. I already have MP-01 and MP-04 but if this improves on both molds, then I might get it, maybe when Im over there.
jaydisc
4th May 2011, 09:04 PM
I think a large, masterpiece scaled cassette-deck, or an alt mode consisting of a bot-on-his-hands-and-knees-with-a-cannon-coming-out-of-his-head would suck. I'm also inclined to think TakaraTomy agrees with me, or at least don't want to concede on those modes just yet. If I want alt-mode nostalgia, I'll buy G1. If I'm spending over $100 on what is supposed to be an incredibly articulated, detailed and complex transforming, I want an alt mode that consists of more than a box, as well as one that has the slightest bit of relevance in today's world.
I don't see Grimlock as the same, as the Grimlock character's premise was that he represented an out-of-date alt mode.
As said, I do think that Hasbro and TakaraTomy agree with this somewhat, which is why recent Soundwaves have been cars or trucks, Galvatrons have been tanks or jets, and Scourge is no longer a flying boat, and that doesn't just apply to Classics.
Hursticon
5th May 2011, 10:40 AM
I think a large, masterpiece scaled cassette-deck, or an alt mode consisting of a bot-on-his-hands-and-knees-with-a-cannon-coming-out-of-his-head would suck. I'm also inclined to think TakaraTomy agrees with me, or at least don't want to concede on those modes just yet. If I want alt-mode nostalgia, I'll buy G1. If I'm spending over $100 on what is supposed to be an incredibly articulated, detailed and complex transforming, I want an alt mode that consists of more than a box, as well as one that has the slightest bit of relevance in today's world.
I don't see Grimlock as the same, as the Grimlock character's premise was that he represented an out-of-date alt mode.
As said, I do think that Hasbro and TakaraTomy agree with this somewhat, which is why recent Soundwaves have been cars or trucks, Galvatrons have been tanks or jets, and Scourge is no longer a flying boat, and that doesn't just apply to Classics.
Whereas I'm of the opinion that a large scale Futuristic Artillery Cannon or a Retro-Look Cassette Deck/Boombox would be awesome. I too think that TakaraTomy agrees with me, or just haven't found an effective budget for these modes yet. If I want alt mode nostalgia, I'll buy G1, but then as history has shown us, I'll also buy something brand new too. As I am expected to pay over $100 for decent quality 20+ year old un-articulated bricks, being asked to pay over $100 for a super detailed, engineered and highly articulated brick that has relevance to yester-year sounds far more appealing to me.
Grimlock, whilst based on an extinct animal, is a fan favourite character and leads me to my next point.
As I've alluded to, Hasbro and TakaraTomy agree with what is going to sell to which specific demographic - this is the reason why on mass consumed lines aimed at children, recent Soundwaves have been cars or trucks, Galvatrons have been tanks or jets, and Scourge is no longer a flying boat, and these approaches don't just apply to Classicsverse figures but all lines aimed at children.
The Masterpiece line is not designed for a mass child based consumer demographic, but rather an Adult collector based market and is hence not subject to the same alt mode rules that apply to other lines because at the end of the day no parent is going to purchase a $100+ toy that is far too complicated for their child - The box may say for ages 5 and up, but IMO that is purely to get major retailers to stock these items in the western markets.
(How many of us have ever heard of a parent buying a Masterpiece figure for their child, aged under 10? :confused:)
The Masterpiece line's design aspect has been a modern engineered transformation in order to achieve a more 80s TV Show Model accurate bot mode, since it's inception and this shows no sign of changing.
Personally, a Masterpiece Soundwave, box or not, would be Far Superior to yet another red and blue truck. ;)
jaydisc
5th May 2011, 11:39 AM
That's a very reasoned response. Cheers. And I do agree with this:
"I'm of the opinion that a large scale Futuristic Artillery Cannon or a Retro-Look Cassette Deck/Boombox would be awesome"
And that's exactly what I'm talking about. I think it must be a digression from the original alt-modes. Homaging too? Yes, also a must.
UltraMarginal
5th May 2011, 11:48 AM
The Masterpiece line is not designed for a mass child based consumer demographic, but rather an Adult collector based market and is hence not subject to the same alt mode rules that apply to other lines because at the end of the day no parent is going purchase a $100+ toy that is far too complicated for their child - The box may say for ages 5 and up, but IMO that is purely to get major retailers to stock these items in the western markets.
(How many of us have ever heard of a parent buying a Masterpiece figure for their child, aged under 10? :confused:)
My Sister in Law's kids toy box had an Alternators Hound and Smokescreen in them when the kids were mabe 3 and 5 or about those ages. I was amazed at how easy it was to "re-assemble" and transform them into their respective alt modes. I don't know what they were thinking buying Alternators for kids that young.
I have enjoyed the entire masterpiece line, I am pretty sure there is little need for another prime. apart from that though, I think a Galvatron or Soundwave would be cool but I also think there would be other characters well served by the line, it's just becoming harder to me to say which they would be. so many characters are already getting a great treatment either through the Alternators/Binaltech line or just normal classics/rts etc.
I will be getting Rodimus, not so sure about MP10 if it is another OP. I almost view the Masterpiece line as a proof of concept line.
Like a concept car at a motorshow, except they make more than one. the tech in these is gradually filtering down into the cheaper lines of transformers.
Engineering that pushes the envelope sometimes pushes a little too hard, and perhaps they shoudl scale back a little on the pushing, MP01 was more conservative, it's lower complexity though made it much more accessible. MP05 is much more complex, pushing the envelope to the edge and it brilliant. Not having an MP09 yet, it looks to me from a distance that perhps this time they pushed a little hard and the envelope has a couple tears in it.
Things can be tested, and appear fine, but sometimes it's the Faster production lower tolerance product that shows a flaw or two that don't turn up in the initial low rate production model.
Hereticpoo
6th May 2011, 03:02 PM
I think a large, masterpiece scaled cassette-deck, or an alt mode consisting of a bot-on-his-hands-and-knees-with-a-cannon-coming-out-of-his-head would suck. I'm also inclined to think TakaraTomy agrees with me, or at least don't want to concede on those modes just yet. If I want alt-mode nostalgia, I'll buy G1. If I'm spending over $100 on what is supposed to be an incredibly articulated, detailed and complex transforming, I want an alt mode that consists of more than a box, as well as one that has the slightest bit of relevance in today's world.
I don't see Grimlock as the same, as the Grimlock character's premise was that he represented an out-of-date alt mode.
As said, I do think that Hasbro and TakaraTomy agree with this somewhat, which is why recent Soundwaves have been cars or trucks, Galvatrons have been tanks or jets, and Scourge is no longer a flying boat, and that doesn't just apply to Classics.
I Agree with you on those points man. But as simple as those characters are I still would have been more excited about those than another OPTIMISE PROFIT PRIME. :)
Hell, Masterpiece Autobot Gears would've been more exciting! :D
ITZTRU
6th May 2011, 04:40 PM
"I'm of the opinion that a large scale Futuristic Artillery Cannon or a Retro-Look Cassette Deck/Boombox would be awesome"
And that's exactly what I'm talking about. I think it must be a digression from the original alt-modes. Homaging too? Yes, also a must.
but every other masterpiece's alt mode has been a more detailed and more accurate G1 looking representation. If they start digressing from original alt modes then the original concept of the masterpiece line will change too. To me that would suck coz then we would never get a detailed Soundwave just coz it's not complex enough in terms of transformation. That would suck for me :( I'd love MP soundwave.
jaydisc
6th May 2011, 09:11 PM
This is the exactly the conundrum I base my theory on. Does TT follow the current pattern and make a blocky cassette deck Masterpiece Soundwave, or will they choose a character with an alt mode with more presentable, Masterpiece value?
ITZTRU
6th May 2011, 09:25 PM
Point taken. Well. They'd better come up with at least another decent decepticon soon! A new decepticon mold is due! And if this MP10 truly is another convoy, they BETTER NOT make MP11 a downsized version of Megatron! It's hard enough getting G1 representations of megatron into the country enough as it is!
Now that I think about it...that's probably whats gonna happen, if infact TT is trying to make all the MP's similar size to each other.
Lame.
jaydisc
6th May 2011, 09:36 PM
Yeah, I'd say MP10 all but confirms that MP11 is Megatron.
GoktimusPrime
6th May 2011, 11:01 PM
Point taken. Well. They'd better come up with at least another decent decepticon soon! A new decepticon mold is due! And if this MP10 truly is another convoy, they BETTER NOT make MP11 a downsized version of Megatron! It's hard enough getting G1 representations of megatron into the country enough as it is!
Now that I think about it...that's probably whats gonna happen, if infact TT is trying to make all the MP's similar size to each other.
Lame.
Yeah but it's not a legal issue in Japan which is TOMY's primary market. But I agree -- a new Decepticon mould is indeed long overdue.
I'd be all over a MP Shockwave. :)
ITZTRU
6th May 2011, 11:32 PM
Yeah but it's not a legal issue in Japan which is TOMY's primary market. But I agree -- a new Decepticon mould is indeed long overdue.
I'd be all over a MP Shockwave. :)
Yeah I realize this. But you can't help but feel sorry us fans in australia! Well at least I can't. Or maybe I'm just thinking of myself? :P
Either way. A hell yes to shockwave. Oh man...can't imagine!
GoktimusPrime
7th May 2011, 12:24 AM
I do feel more sorry for you guys in Victoria where gun Transformers are currently outlawed. At least in NSW they're legal if you have a permit. Though I envy people in WA where it's completely unrestricted!
Having said that, I came across this site earlier this evening:
http://www.blackknightsteel.com/victoria-sword-law/
It's a site for sword and dagger collectors in Victoria. Membership in their club allows you to legally purchase and possess a sword or dagger in VIC, but the site also interestingly says "Alternatively you can apply for a prohibited weapons permit from police licensing."
It may be worth contacting the Victorian Police Weapons Division and ask them if acquiring such a permit would allow you to purchase and possess gun Transformers. You may need to explicitly state that a gun Transformer is NOT an operable weapon and can NEVER be modified to become an operable weapon (unlike say a blunt collectable sword which can be modified to be an operable weapon by sharpening it!). If you can establish a precedent or legal process for Victorians to legally own gun Transformers, then you'd be potentially helping all your fellow Victorian fans (and possibly other fans in other regions of Australia where gunformers remain outlawed)!
Email: licensingservices@police.vic.gov.au
Phone: 03 9247 3142
jaydisc
10th May 2011, 08:54 PM
PICS! (http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content.php?450-Transformers-MP-10-Masterpiece-Convoy-First-Pictures)
Looks great! Although not too different, but they fixed my biggest complaint!
KaRNiV8L PRiME
10th May 2011, 09:05 PM
me like!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hursticon
10th May 2011, 09:08 PM
Pics mirrored for posterity:
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp10-1_1305025211.jpg
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp-10-2_1305025211.jpg
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp10-3_1305025211.jpg
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp10-4_1305025211.jpg
IMO, very underwhelming. :rolleyes:
LordCyrusOmega
10th May 2011, 09:34 PM
:O I want it! Really wish I didn't have MP4 now. Oh well, my display idea still works.
yoshi594
10th May 2011, 09:55 PM
looks awesome! any group orders going to happen for this xD?
kup
10th May 2011, 09:58 PM
It's virtually the same as MP1. Design wise it seems very close to the the original with the abs grill is still being fake just more stylized.
EASY Pass for me. Disappointing.
kaiden
10th May 2011, 10:07 PM
it looks great but i hate the transforming gun.
Tallestblue
10th May 2011, 10:35 PM
I kinda want it. but i don't $250 want it.
We can has Hasbro Version pleez?
SkyWarp91
10th May 2011, 11:20 PM
I only just bought MP-04 the other week so I'm pretty much satisfied with that. It does seem like a cheap move on Hasbro/TakTom's part just to re-release an updated mold...
Lord_Zed
11th May 2011, 01:12 AM
I'm still making up my mind, the truck mode is definitely better than the original. The robot mode seems a bit more detailed too. Transparent parts on the groin plates are a nice touch. I may get it, My MP 1 convoy only has a cardboard trailer, so the trailer in this set could swing it.
SharkyMcShark
11th May 2011, 01:15 AM
Can't even begin to describe how little this interests me.
kristofferrer
11th May 2011, 01:43 AM
not exactly what i was expecting. what was the point of making this? it doesnt really expand on the series. I'm guessing they established what masterpiece sizing is (i.e. MP seeker size) so their shrinking everything down? smaller figure, even smaller human character, but price remains?
the detail on him is a bit humdee... where are those pistons on his arms and feet? "twas proof that prime is a plaussible being".
Maybe they're rebooting the series. If that's the case, I suppose we could hope for a better looking MP05?
I think collectors willl collect it but i'm not sure if it will satisfy their thirst.
http://www.thetelecomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/new-hat-stacy.gif
Jaisun
11th May 2011, 03:01 AM
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp-10-2_1305025211.jpg
Lol, "Convoy Gun" is housed within backside XD
*end childish snigger*
Mmkay, this is both pleasing and annoying to me. I have MP-04, but from Target, so it has a few QA issues. I also have MP-02, Ha$bro SS, SW and Grimlock. The scale difference has always bothered me, like most other collectors, but I accepted it. Now we are offered a smaller, same-scaled, slightly more detailed re-release... for the same price? REALLY?! When I buy a deluxe at $25 and then later find out they are releasing a redeco that I prefer, I can handle that, but this is 10x the price of that, so it's quite a slap in the face.
On the upside though, those who missed MP-01/MP-04 will possibly see a few come available from people selling them off to get MP-10... Maybe...
If this were in $100-150 territory, I would be much more tempted, but it sooooo isn't... =o(
gdmetro
11th May 2011, 05:07 AM
Ah.. was totally busy this week and just saw these pics now.
To be honest, he looks great, better than the original MP prime, merely because of the small changes. The truck cab looks much better for one.
The bot mode looks less stocky and more proportioned. The extra detailing on the grill and nicer cartoon head looks great. Add to all that the proper trailer and you have a winner.
It is tempting for me especially since besides MP grimlock, I don't own any other MPs- and this prime looks so sweet. Having said that, $250 steep. Ill wait to see reviews...
Hopefully this means an ultra magnus (with trailer armour) is in the works. Id buy that.
Tober
11th May 2011, 07:48 AM
Realistically, it's largely what I was expecting - a refined MP-1. The cab is much better realised this time too. Pity the door windows are red tho, about the only thing that really bugs me.
Currently DotM doesn't interest me at all. MP-10 does. :p
I look forward to seeing how the transform gimmick works. The chest transformation for MP-1 was always clumsy.
At least his gun is the right color now... Not sure I like Roller being gray, cartoon accuracy aside.
1AZRAEL1
11th May 2011, 08:38 AM
*big underwhelming sigh*
Not as good as I was expecting. If the price tag is smaller than what we are anticipating, then maybe I will get it. If not, then I'm not fussed if I don't get this. Does look like there is some improvement, but not enough for me.
Shirokaze
11th May 2011, 09:36 AM
Well, I do like this figure. Glad I haven't bought a MP Prime since MP-01 v1.
Now the question is, do we wait for MP-10 v2 to come out with all the problems fixed? :p
kaiden
11th May 2011, 09:58 AM
Well, I do like this figure. Glad I haven't bought a MP Prime since MP-01 v1.
Now the question is, do we wait for MP-10 v2 to come out with all the problems fixed? :p
after rodimus, yes.
jaydisc
11th May 2011, 12:26 PM
Not just that, but he'll be available as MP-13 (Magnus), MP-16 (w/Blue Roller), and MP-18 (Black version), MP-19 (Dead version), and MP-20L (Last version).
But wait till you see the new, even better MP-21 Convoy ;)
Lord_Zed
11th May 2011, 07:05 PM
Not just that, but he'll be available as MP-13 (Magnus), MP-16 (w/Blue Roller), and MP-18 (Black version), MP-19 (Dead version), and MP-20L (Last version).
But wait till you see the new, even better MP-21 Convoy ;)
So true, but I never understand why people react so strongly, or say this a slap in the face, or a huge surprise, it's what Hasbro and co do, they've done it before and they'll do it again and again. Remake the most popular characters over and over again until they are no longer profitable. It would hardly surprise me if they even remade some classics moulds in the near future.
ITZTRU
11th May 2011, 07:10 PM
Actually kinda glad I don't have to worry about shelling out more money on this...
kup
11th May 2011, 07:13 PM
So true, but I never understand why people react so strongly, or say this a slap in the face, or a huge surprise, it's what Hasbro and co do, they've done it before and they'll do it again and again. Remake the most popular characters over and over again until they are no longer profitable. It would hardly surprise me if they even remade some classics moulds in the near future.
I don't think it's a surprise but I do think it is slap in the face of sorts...one that you see coming from a mile away but you still feel it like a sucker punch. ;)
Tober
11th May 2011, 07:28 PM
But wait till you see the new, even better MP-21 Convoy ;)
Is that the one that will transform by itself as well as featuring the gimmick where it transforms all previous Convoy releases for you? Can't wait!
Release date will probably coincide with the Live Action Movie Anthology Collection 10th Anniversary set.
kaiden
11th May 2011, 08:03 PM
The Final Final Version of Optimus will be the G1 movie version with real battle damage so you can simulate the epic battle vs Megatron. And afterwards, he changes colour to the dead version.
actually with all these versions, i'd like to see a Hulkbuster version like iron man.
Verno
11th May 2011, 09:05 PM
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/mp-10-2_1305025211.jpg
Ah, gentleman. You seem to be missing the important information.
"Convoy can transform by one touch"
...
He's a bloody flipchanger!
kup
11th May 2011, 09:18 PM
Ah, gentleman. You seem to be missing the important information.
"Convoy can transform by one touch"
...
He's a bloody flipchanger!
I think that is Engrish in action.
Quickstrike
11th May 2011, 09:40 PM
It's referring to the gun. I guess it transforms when you stick it in Prime's hand.
LordCyrusOmega
11th May 2011, 09:43 PM
Not to mention that he keeps his rifle in his 'backside'. Thats just weird
SpeedBreaker
11th May 2011, 09:58 PM
So he's the same height as Masterpiece Rodimus but how tall is that exactly? I'd only be interested in geting this new Optimus Prime if it was reasonably in scale with the Classics/Generations Autobot cars.
Ode to a Grasshopper
11th May 2011, 10:13 PM
Hmm...same size as MP Roddy hey? This just went from a 'must-have' to a 'wait for reviews and see'. It looks pretty cool but it's still kinda big for my tastes - I was hoping for something Faith Leader sized so it would sorta work with Classics etc, but MP Roddy is kinda tall. The head looks much improved, the HA-capable command bay is a nice touch and the trukk mode is far better, but the extra-long limbs aren't doing it for me and it needs some paint apps on the side windows.
Also, no wrist communicators or mini-Megatron? I hope he can use the Legends Megs or something.
kaiden
12th May 2011, 12:11 AM
the thing that i want is the human spike to be in scale with the DOTM HA figures. I'd love to have Sargent chaos driving optimus
canofwhoopass_87
12th May 2011, 10:59 AM
Not to mention that he keeps his rifle in his 'backside'. Thats just weird
..not if you've seen the original 1986 movie! I think it's awesome they added in that feature.
check 0:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUAG6Gy-to
I'm really tempted to pick one up, but at $250US (even with the AUD being powerhouse atm) I just can't justify spending that much. $150 would be a good price :p
LordCyrusOmega
12th May 2011, 11:33 AM
He keeps his rifle in his back, fair enough, but it says his 'backside'. It just doesn't sound right
canofwhoopass_87
12th May 2011, 12:14 PM
He keeps his rifle in his back, fair enough, but it says his 'backside'. It just doesn't sound right
The photo shows the weapon is stored in his back. In regards to the term "backside" being used, I do believe Kup was spot on when he stated
I think that is Engrish in action.
Hursticon
12th May 2011, 01:16 PM
I think that is Engrish in action.
The photo shows the weapon is stored in his back. In regards to the term "backside" being used, I do believe Kup was spot on when he stated
Exactly what I was thinking, I reckon you're both dead-right on that one. :cool:
Mind you, it doesn't bother me too much seems I'm not ponying-up the dough on something that isn't worth it. ;)
optimus1
12th May 2011, 01:19 PM
I like the look of this Prime, in better proportions.
But how much of it is Die-cast/Plastic?
But I still love my MP Prime - Hasbro + Takara versions
I don't mind having a Prime bigger than the other Masterpieces.
LordCyrusOmega
12th May 2011, 09:52 PM
My comment was more about the wording then the actual placement.
GoktimusPrime
13th May 2011, 09:15 PM
Nothing wrong with having guns in your backside (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n8CKTO3MuQg/Ss4Ep5_DyHI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/mpc243WdE-E/s200/power_hips.jpg) ;)
Doubledealer
13th May 2011, 10:57 PM
*looks at toy* Hey, not bad!
*looks at price* lolwut
LordCyrusOmega
13th May 2011, 11:24 PM
Nothing wrong with having guns in your backside (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n8CKTO3MuQg/Ss4Ep5_DyHI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/mpc243WdE-E/s200/power_hips.jpg) ;)
Having one in your butt and storing one there are 2 different things. This was an attempt at humour on my behalf that has failed miserably. And to make it worse I don't recall what triggered me to say it in the first place. If I could it would make sense
Lint
13th May 2011, 11:32 PM
Love the new front cab mode. Its fantastic! That alone could be merit enough for buying this.
The thing that is really going to annoy me now is those chunky ass legs though. Looks so wrong in robot AND vehicle mode.
Also foldable gun was completely unnecessary
Eazy D
15th May 2011, 10:17 AM
My thoughts on MP-10
The truck cab certainly looks better BUT
1. I want to get a good side view and rear angle view to make sure his groin/waist section cant be seen
2.The lack of side windows is annoying for something thats supposed to be "superior"
Overall the figure looks very nice but it looks like it will transform quite similarly to MP-01. Given that the trailer is still quite basic it feels like a helluva lot of money for something that I already have.
The foldable gun doesn't bother me. From the dreamwave comics I always thought prime stored his gun in his back so I think its quite a cool feature.
I still wish they had chosen another character for MP-10. Given the price tag and the QC issues with MP Rodimus I won't be pre-ordering this. I'll hold out for reviews of the first release. I have a feeling i'll end up getting it in the end coz it is a masterpiece but what I'm really holding out for is the faint hope that they may try to make a Ultra Magnus power armour as a future MP.
Magnus
15th May 2011, 11:50 AM
I like the new cab - definitely an improvement over MP-1, and the ability to stow his gun and the mini-Spike are nice touches.
However, I already have 20th Anniversary Prime, so right now I don't feel a particularly strong desire to buy this one. I, too, will be holding out for an MP Ultra Magnus with trailer/armour.
Adzma
16th May 2011, 09:39 AM
:eek:I'm actually at a loss for words at how disappointing this whole thing has turned out to be. Eeeeasy pass right here. :rolleyes:
KaRNiV8L PRiME
16th June 2011, 07:50 PM
Transformers MP10 Masterpiece Convoy Officially Revealed
source (http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t1957/)
Hursticon
16th June 2011, 07:59 PM
Transformers MP10 Masterpiece Convoy Officially Revealed
source (http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t1957/)
Hell yeah!
With proportions like that it gives me hope for an MP Primal! :D
(Still don't dig the Cheese-cutter tyres :p)
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-10PrimeOfficial.jpg
gdmetro
16th June 2011, 08:00 PM
He looks bloody awesome!!! Too bad at the price...I know if there is an eventual Hasbro release, the colours won't be as nice... decisions, decisions.
If rumors of the newer string of MPs are true, I may just have to start re-prioritizing my collecting and delving into MPs..
theheretic
16th June 2011, 08:06 PM
How is this different from the previous convoy/optimus MP's? Sorry for my ignorance as I've only recently purchased an MP Optimus (2004 Hasbro) and no intention of opening it.
Hursticon
16th June 2011, 08:09 PM
How is this different from the previous convoy/optimus MP's? Sorry for my ignorance as I've only recently purchased an MP Optimus (2004 Hasbro) and no intention of opening it.
Does this help mate?
MP-01 Prime & MP-10 Prime
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-01PrimeOfficial.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-10PrimeOfficial.jpg
Zippo
16th June 2011, 08:20 PM
Cheers for the picture there Hursticon
I was trying to look at my one in the display cabinet and then the picture, but it wasn't working to well.
Hrm .. looks good the new mold does. Nicer head and other small refinements
Good that we get the trailer, roller and Daniel
But the price is a killer. A real killer.
Robzy
16th June 2011, 08:47 PM
Wow - I never thought they'd be able to improve on the 20th anniversary figure, but I was happily wrong... at least, judging by these pictures.
Can't wait to see more!!
theheretic
16th June 2011, 08:51 PM
That does help thanks. Looks much less chunky/clunky and more refined. Very nice :-)
Ode to a Grasshopper
16th June 2011, 08:52 PM
Hmmm...want.
But so much money.:(
kurdt_the_goat
17th June 2011, 02:06 AM
So torn! It looks good but not better than MP-01 in every way.
The main thing holding me back though is the price.
3000Y more expensive than what MP-4 retailed for... i'm not sure that the decrease in size, any improvements & roller + spike ought to cost that much more.
Tober
17th June 2011, 03:16 AM
I don't seem to have the hang-ups other people do over this - kinda strange really. :rolleyes:
Anyway, I've pre-ordered with Anime Export (http://www.anime-export.com/product/7227) for 15400 JPY (30% off - $180 AUD). I'm sure Amiami, HLJ etc will list for similar soon.
kurdt_the_goat
18th June 2011, 03:26 PM
eHobby (http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?req=PRODUCT&code=mp_10) has a few more pics:
http://i55.tinypic.com/153pvvb.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2whe5pi.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/117skl3.jpg
Here's a better comparison IMO:
http://i55.tinypic.com/w0nal4.jpg
gamblor916
18th June 2011, 05:23 PM
He looks better no question but I'm not sure he looks $180 good.
Hursticon
18th June 2011, 09:12 PM
Courtesy of TFW2005.com, a whole slew of videos (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/masterpiece-convoy-20-video-from-international-tokyo-toy-show-172545/) from the Tokyo Toy Fair with specific focus on the new MP-10 Prime. :cool:
gamblor916
18th June 2011, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the link.
What is that green commando Prime!?
k.wong23
18th June 2011, 10:06 PM
Thanks for the link.
What is that green commando Prime!?
Bape x G1 Optimus release :D
I'm gonna get one! But no pre-orders have been put up yet hmm
5FDP
18th June 2011, 11:14 PM
Sure he looks good and all, but I cannot justify getting another Prime, especially for that price. The other thing that bugs me about this is how they've reduced his size. I'll be sticking with my 20th anniversary Prime; the best and still the greatest!
gdmetro
19th June 2011, 12:13 AM
Arghh... the more pics/vids I see of MP-10, the more I want it. He looks damn awesome. The only issue I have from the pics, is that the gun looks a tad small.
Normally I'm not that fussed over Prime, but something about this mould really calls out to me. Too bad about the price tag...
And some mention about the designer wanting to do MP bruticus? Man...hopefully that will someday come to fruition, it would be sweet...most likely better designed and the price tag would be good compared to the 3rd party stuff..
Robzy
19th June 2011, 01:33 AM
Oh my.... I can't wait!! :eek:
This looks so much better than the first MP Prime - and that's my favourite toy!!
orionpax1
19th June 2011, 09:47 AM
would really like to get this but way too expensive, hopefully hasbro will do a version. The news about the designers wanting to do a combiner is great news, hopefully they pull it off but as much as i like bruticus a different combiner would be better, Technobots im looking at you.
jaydisc
19th June 2011, 08:07 PM
He looks great. I'm excited.
1AZRAEL1
20th June 2011, 11:01 AM
Looks cool. I will more than likely pick it up if I see it locally.
kristofferrer
3rd August 2011, 05:45 AM
hrmm... it just hit me that if they reboot Optimus Prime (and his variants) with MP10, they may also reboot Ultra Magnus. This mold may be prepping up for the Ultra Magnus Armor????
Ill get this one mold for sure.
kurdt_the_goat
3rd August 2011, 11:44 AM
It seems likely; on some of the photos of the back, there are more obvious than normal holes that could be used for attaching armour.
The Scream Man
7th August 2011, 11:11 PM
I want one. He looks awesome, I love the storable weapon and he has his trailer. Brilliant!
jaydisc
8th August 2011, 11:32 AM
It seems likely; on some of the photos of the back, there are more obvious than normal holes that could be used for attaching armour.
The plot thickens.
canofwhoopass_87
9th August 2011, 08:34 AM
It seems likely; on some of the photos of the back, there are more obvious than normal holes that could be used for attaching armour.
Those are actually speed holes my man. Makes Optimus go faster
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50510_256710319651_2455907_n.jpg
But in all seriousness I'd pounce on an armoured MP Magnus in a heartbeat
Hursticon
9th August 2011, 07:44 PM
Those are actually speed holes my man. Makes Optimus go faster
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50510_256710319651_2455907_n.jpg
LOL - I was waiting for someone to make that connection! :p:D
kup
9th August 2011, 08:42 PM
hrmm... it just hit me that if they reboot Optimus Prime (and his variants) with MP10, they may also reboot Ultra Magnus. This mold may be prepping up for the Ultra Magnus Armor????
Ill get this one mold for sure.
If they do that, I will buy it. So far I don't really care for the Optimus release.
Tober
9th August 2011, 09:03 PM
I'm liking what I see. :)
A renewal Convoy gives Takara a chance to address issues from the first release.
After the success of the Fansproject Magnus Upgrade set I'm sure Takara have considered the armor for a Magnus release. Only question is relative scale - how do they design the armor so he's a bit taller but not towering over Convoy and yet retain the G1 look... I'm looking forward to finding out. :)
Tober
22nd September 2011, 01:24 PM
Just got payment request. :)
Zippo
22nd September 2011, 03:46 PM
I forgot that I had preordered and got my payment request.
Hrm, can I find the $ in time.
griffin
23rd September 2011, 12:49 AM
More images of this figure (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/first-in-hand-images-of-takara-masterpiece-mp10-convoy/22832/), now that it has been released.
kup
23rd September 2011, 01:31 AM
I really hope that the rumors of an official Magnus repaint with armor are true.
Ultra Mackness
23rd September 2011, 07:31 AM
I'm not sure how to embed links, but one of the Takara designers has uploaded pics to his twitter showing an MP-10 in a carved up G1 UM armour. Try:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/masterpiece-ultra-magnus-concept-image/22831/
I hope it's true. I'm really on the fence with MP-10. I've picked up all the other MP convoys and UM so I just cant justify it at the moment. But If this comes true, I'll have to get MP10.
Robzy
23rd September 2011, 08:06 AM
This is an amazing looking figure... can't wait to get mine!
Shirokaze
23rd September 2011, 08:34 AM
Horrible timing for this guy to be released. I decided to put in my order, and then I saw how far the AUD plummeted overnight :( Definitely having second thoughts.
kup
23rd September 2011, 11:01 AM
I'm not sure how to embed links, but one of the Takara designers has uploaded pics to his twitter showing an MP-10 in a carved up G1 UM armour. Try:
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/masterpiece-ultra-magnus-concept-image/22831/
I hope it's true. I'm really on the fence with MP-10. I've picked up all the other MP convoys and UM so I just cant justify it at the moment. But If this comes true, I'll have to get MP10.
Yes I just saw that just before, thank you. Their mock up is very rough but it does make me hopeful that they will one day make an official MP Magnus with armor.
Decepticon
23rd September 2011, 01:02 PM
Id really like to get this!! Im not into G1 bricks usually(in the 80s ..yes....not 2011!) but have a soft spot for a big G1 Optimus:)
Ode to a Grasshopper
23rd September 2011, 03:17 PM
Want it, don't have the money for it, waiting on some reviews to decide if I get it for an expensive birthday present or something later.
KaRNiV8L PRiME
23rd September 2011, 05:08 PM
Just got shipping notice from Robot Kingdom!!!!!!! Hopefully here by next friday!!!!!!!
kurdt_the_goat
23rd September 2011, 06:30 PM
Got my RK shipping notice too!
Heaaaaaps of photos here:
9: Beginning of Act II (TF MP-10 Convoy play many Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1270.html&usg=ALkJrhhaf95tJQk9iq9UE57RDezZJsV7Zg)
1: A New Start (MP-10 Convoy Vehicle Mode Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1262.html&usg=ALkJrhhVpFN0yxvTeFlFKnVH1vKNVnVoTQ)
2: They also, Optimus (TF MP-10 Convoy Containers & Roller Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1263.html&usg=ALkJrhiO_RPJv0lNVNbBenWATuOvuj7EMg)
4: The impression is strong, silent type (TF MP-10 Optimus Prime robot mode Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1265.html&usg=ALkJrhgLxi-wNxmgchTBpd6Mj8zsDljY4A)
5: Fight! Super Robot Life Form! ! (TF MP-10 Optimus Prime robot mode action Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1266.html&usg=ALkJrhjoIGgClEoBtpsWhbzPamSzMgOsMw)
8: Health dock (TF MP-10 Convoy dock maintenance Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1269.html&usg=ALkJrhizd5TuTDwSxcKFhUDGG5aIm2bWVA)
I think i'm really going to enjoy this toy, despite it missing a lot of MP-1's gimmicks. They've nailed the look of both modes completely; the detail on the trailer is through the roof!
Being a smaller size he'll be nicer to play/fiddle with and i'm also surprised and overjoyed that spike can sit in Alternity toys, that can also drive into Prime's trailer! That just settled where he's going to display on my shelf, since i'm not gonna pack away MP-1 anytime soon.
They're different enough that both are worthy and i guess that's the best we could have hoped for.
gdmetro
24th September 2011, 07:21 AM
Got my RK shipping notice too!
Heaaaaaps of photos here:
9: Beginning of Act II (TF MP-10 Convoy play many Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1270.html&usg=ALkJrhhaf95tJQk9iq9UE57RDezZJsV7Zg)
1: A New Start (MP-10 Convoy Vehicle Mode Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1262.html&usg=ALkJrhhVpFN0yxvTeFlFKnVH1vKNVnVoTQ)
2: They also, Optimus (TF MP-10 Convoy Containers & Roller Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1263.html&usg=ALkJrhiO_RPJv0lNVNbBenWATuOvuj7EMg)
4: The impression is strong, silent type (TF MP-10 Optimus Prime robot mode Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1265.html&usg=ALkJrhgLxi-wNxmgchTBpd6Mj8zsDljY4A)
5: Fight! Super Robot Life Form! ! (TF MP-10 Optimus Prime robot mode action Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1266.html&usg=ALkJrhjoIGgClEoBtpsWhbzPamSzMgOsMw)
8: Health dock (TF MP-10 Convoy dock maintenance Ver2) (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1269.html&usg=ALkJrhizd5TuTDwSxcKFhUDGG5aIm2bWVA)
Holy :eek: .. MP-10 looks sooo good!!! I already had interest in this from early pics, but after the full blown pics... (and mp-10 alongside classics figs..:D)
Too bad I don't have enough funds to spare for this at the moment. For a piece like this, despite an inevitable Hasbro release down the line, the high potential for a much worse paint job/ shortened smokestacks and other cuts makes me want MP-10 even more!
Re: MP Ultra Magnus- If there is concrete news that there will be a fully armored up MP- UM, then I will have to start saving for that.. no way Id miss out on that. However, from what I've read of rumors on TFW- it seems the next MP will be a new starscream/seeker.
Zippo
24th September 2011, 09:20 AM
Well I managed to find the cash for one, but after seeing those pictures with the Classic bots, I really want to get one to open.
kup
24th September 2011, 10:16 AM
Re: MP Ultra Magnus- If there is concrete news that there will be a fully armored up MP- UM, then I will have to start saving for that.. no way Id miss out on that. However, from what I've read of rumors on TFW- it seems the next MP will be a new starscream/seeker.
If that's the case then I would be disappointed. It's as if the line has been rebooted.
If that happens, I will probably not buy any more as I want new characters not characters I already own as MP.
Ode to a Grasshopper
24th September 2011, 02:24 PM
Well, I caved in. Not opening him until my birthday in December but I gots one.
Hooray for living in Japan!
Hursticon
26th September 2011, 01:00 PM
I'm in a similar boat to Kup, if the line is to be rebooted then this is a pretty poor move IMO. :rolleyes:
As Optimus, this MP-10 mold means very little to me and I'll only be buying it if it is used for a proper Ultra Magnus. ;)
It gets pretty boring very quickly when the same 4 characters keep being used, though, apparently via Twitter; 2 of the MP engineers put it to their followers who they'd most like to see as the next MP after Megatron 2.0 and the overwhelming majority voted Soundwave - This pleases me greatly. :cool:
UltraMarginal
26th September 2011, 01:08 PM
As awesome as this is I can't justify $250, not for another prime. I already have the original hasbro MP and the MP-04 as well If it was $100 I'd jump on it, but not for $250, there is probably going to be a glut of MP-01 and MP-04 on the second hand market now too.
Zippo
26th September 2011, 05:26 PM
Kinda annoying that this line might be heading towards the path of a reboot, heard rumors of Megatron and Starscream 2.0 ..
A smaller Megatron to be in scale with Convoy .. I can agree to that
But what was wrong with Starscream that he needs to be re-done again.
Move onto new characters, like Shockwave and Soundwave who are in scale with Convoy v2, Grimlock, Starscream and Rodimus.
kurdt_the_goat
26th September 2011, 05:53 PM
But what was wrong with Starscream that he needs to be re-done again.
Nevar Forget!
http://i54.tinypic.com/ebdf1f.jpg
In all seriousness though, i agree.
Prime i can tolerate since i only have MP-01 and thus no trailer...
Megatron just to get him in scale is OK, but Starscream?
I don't have a problem with the original, nor do i want them to go through the endless repaints again before getting to what i have wanted since the beginning - MP Galvatron dammit!
AussieJason
26th September 2011, 11:08 PM
Looks good and I'll probably get this, but still disappointed...
I'd love to see any of the following get the MP treatment next:
Soundwave (possible)
Jazz (unlikely ?)
Bluestreak (very unlikely)
Hound (very unlikely)
Omega Supreme (:rolleyes:)
theheretic
27th September 2011, 08:18 AM
Looks good and I'll probably get this, but still disappointed...
I'd love to see any of the following get the MP treatment next:
Soundwave (possible)
Jazz (unlikely ?)
Bluestreak (very unlikely)
Hound (very unlikely)
Omega Supreme (:rolleyes:)
Although Omega would be awesome, the scale would suck OR we would be massive and thus cost a thousand.
I have only bought Hasbro MP up until now so this will be my first OP and I am really looking forward to him. I really hope they don't remake the seekers as IMO there was really not much wrong with them from what I can see on my screamer and skywarp (I'll seriously lose my shit if they remake them and do the usual repaints). From the pics I've seen Megs needs a better (more creative) version and Ultra Magnus armor would be great too! How long before there's an amazing unofficial one though. I really hope that for once they listen to the fans and make MP Soundwave and Blaster.
Lord_Zed
28th September 2011, 10:35 PM
Looks good and I'll probably get this, but still disappointed...
I'd love to see any of the following get the MP treatment next:
Soundwave (possible)
Jazz (unlikely ?)
Bluestreak (very unlikely)
Hound (very unlikely)
Omega Supreme (:rolleyes:)
Galvatron
Galvatron
Galvatron
Galvatron
Galvatron
Shockwave
To be honest not sure I want, or its likely we'd ever see Autobot car, for one thing there's the licensing issue, and if they don't use the original vehicle modes there are already Binaltechs and Alternitys to fill that niche.
1orion2many
29th September 2011, 10:09 AM
Come on people how can you miss Op's right hand man Ironhide, Really:rolleyes::p:D
kurdt_the_goat
29th September 2011, 03:24 PM
Hasbro could save money by releasing an MP Ironhide without his head, since they like their G1 toy-accurate decos!
Hereticpoo
29th September 2011, 07:04 PM
Soundwave is sooo uncrushomatic :p
Galvatron or Shockwave or another dinobot pweeez! :)
loophole
29th September 2011, 09:58 PM
I really want a MP Cyclonus i reckon that would be rockin!!
Hursticon
30th September 2011, 01:58 AM
I really want a MP Cyclonus i reckon that would be rockin!!
I could very easily get behind that ;):cool:, G1 Cyclonus is one of my most favourite toys of that era and by association Universe Cyclonus too. :D
primetime
30th September 2011, 08:45 AM
Just got the MP-10 and while the dimensions and looks of this Optimus Prime is anime accurate - it just feels SO CHEAP - no diecast whatsoever except on the feet and still the same price as the old MP too??
Cost cutting much? That then pretty much leaves MP-01 as probably the only Masterpiece in the line with any substantial diecast content. sorry, in MP-10 there should have been more diecast esp. in the body and legs - red plastic really sucks.
1orion2many
30th September 2011, 12:19 PM
OUCH! For that price I would have thought it'd be mainly diecast, talk about a rip-off. I will give it this, It is a very nice looking MP but unfortunately it's just another Prime as far as I'm concerned.:rolleyes:
primetime
30th September 2011, 05:50 PM
OUCH! For that price I would have thought it'd be mainly diecast, talk about a rip-off. I will give it this, It is a very nice looking MP but unfortunately it's just another Prime as far as I'm concerned.:rolleyes:
Yeah talk about OUCH, granted it is a very anime accurate Prime - but compared to the original MP-01 there just simply is no comparison - just feels real cheap, compared to the real diecast heft that's there in MP-01.
No gimmicks whatsoever no working suspension and plastics all over really kills it
kurdt_the_goat
30th September 2011, 06:55 PM
I think you're being a bit harsh! The new one makes the oldie feel a bit clunky... especially when it comes to posing. The plastic quality and vibrancy of the colours seems pretty good to me also, better than on Rodimus Prime at least.
primetime
30th September 2011, 07:06 PM
I think you're being a bit harsh! The new one makes the oldie feel a bit clunky... especially when it comes to posing. The plastic quality and vibrancy of the colours seems pretty good to me also, better than on Rodimus Prime at least.
Not for $250+ though! For something that is smaller, almost no die-cast, even third party rollers are better in that they have wheels that are able to rotate.
MP-10's trailer is pretty boring as well with unpainted gray robot arms on the inside.
Ultra Mackness
30th September 2011, 10:42 PM
I really wanted to like this one. New transformation sequence and design, inclusion of roller and Spike. Side mirrors! I just don't feel it like I did with the original MP Prime. MP 10 is undeniably cleverly designed, but the near absence of die cast or electronics, no minor gimmicks (moving faceplate etc.), out of scale weapon and smaller size coupled with the high price tag just can't get me over the line :(. Even though Has/Tak milk the popular characters, this is the first time (for me anyway) where it really feels like the MP Prime idea is just being milked.
Like many others I'd love to see some other characters get the MP treatment, especially Omega Supreme. With him being a parts-former, I can see his various parts being a bonus with the next few MP releases, then a final release with his tank and rocket (maybe) to spread the cost. It's not likely but I can hope :).
kurdt_the_goat
30th September 2011, 11:54 PM
Not for $250+ though! For something that is smaller, almost no die-cast, even third party rollers are better in that they have wheels that are able to rotate.
MP-10's trailer is pretty boring as well with unpainted gray robot arms on the inside.
yeah roller should have had the turning wheels that THS02 has! tho i paid about 250 myself... i dont think it's worth that much ... but dont really care... i know i should though :p
keep in mind that in japan he's only going for about 16,000Y, thats about 3,000Y more than MP04 cost, 5 years later.
Compared with MP09, it's about the same, unfortunately just the way things are :( Smart thing would have been to wait for Hasbro version if you knew you would feel this way about trailer!
primetime
1st October 2011, 12:49 AM
Yeah, I guess at the end of day, having the chance to play with it a few times - this probably is the sort of Masterpiece that you can play with day in and day out and one thing it's got going for it is that the extreme poseability factor compared to MP-01 - this Prime's just leagues ahead!
Tober
2nd October 2011, 07:02 AM
Yeah, it's a great mold. Lack of (imho useless) gimmicks aside, the real problem is the price (realistically about $200 + shipping) which is largely due to the strong Yen.
The plastic is high grade ABS, not the cheap, brittle KO stuff.
If people want to wait a year or so for the local release, that's their prerogative. But I wouldn't expect the price to be sub $200, although I was pleasantly surprised by MP Rodimus. :confused:
Defcon
2nd October 2011, 08:31 AM
For me, the price is the biggest obstacle. The size is good as you could put it in with classics. If they decide to re do megatron in this size, I wonder if they will keep the realistic gun mode, or change it to something else like perhaps a cybertronian gun or a tank like generation 2 megatron? But only in keeping the original G1 colors and theme. Only saying this so it doesn't become a problem with customs or gun laws etc. I would hate if they redid Starscream, just seems a waste.
Well for future releases Id like to see Galvatron, Soundwave (including minions). Ultra Magnus with trailer and armour, Blaster (including minions), and how about triple changers Astrotrain, Blitzwing, Springer
Ode to a Grasshopper
2nd October 2011, 12:03 PM
Eh, we'll probably get a MP Bumble or somethIng before a Soundwave.:(
As a minor aside, what's the big deal over heaps of diecast? Didn't it make MP1 etc kinda top-heavy and hard to pose?
I'm all up for it when it serves a stability or durability purpose but die cast for the sake of die cast seems a bit pointless to me... Is it like a nostalgia thing or what?:confused:
Tober
2nd October 2011, 11:01 PM
Eh, we'll probably get a MP Bumble or somethIng before a Soundwave.:(
As a minor aside, what's the big deal over heaps of diecast? Didn't it make MP1 etc kinda top-heavy and hard to pose?
I'm all up for it when it serves a stability or durability purpose but die cast for the sake of die cast seems a bit pointless to me... Is it like a nostalgia thing or what?:confused:
It's sorta nostalgia. Goes back to the original Chogokin toys of the 70s where spaceships and super robots didn't feel "right" to kids unless they were full of metal that reflected the scale of the robots.
Diecast is still associated with quality although few toys, even the DX lines, still have any beyond essential internal frames.
Ode to a Grasshopper
3rd October 2011, 07:51 PM
Cheers, that sorta makes sense.:)
Magnus
5th October 2011, 10:03 PM
I really like the look of this mould (particularly the cab, which is a vast improvement over MP-1), save for the thin upper arms in robot mode. I'd get it... if I didn't already have MP-1/20th Anniversary Optimus.
As others have stated, I'd like to get this mould as an MP Ultra Magnus with trailer/armour.
Sarquiss
6th October 2011, 11:21 PM
Just got a MP-10 Optimus Prime for $150 delivered from TFW2005 :D
I cannot wait to have it in my hands :)
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