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i_amtrunks

20th June 2013, 07:04 PM

Paulbot

20th June 2013, 08:05 PM

I love the new twist on Magnus, it is something completely different to what we have seen before, I want to know the details now, in relation to the new body.

Its after these kinds of things that I always go back to the Necrobot list, could this be the death of Magnus we saw all those months ago? I also now fear for Ratchet, and am intrigued with how Pharma returned, does it have anything to do with the ancient space bridge?

And Crystal City and Drift? And Skids? And Dai Atlas? Could this be why we've had a little more focus on him in other comics, to remind us that he is still around?

At least the Legislators make sense, we get to finally see a character who has been referenced many times and another layer is added to the mystery of Luna 1.

The thing about Ultra Magnus is when you look again I think you can see a certain inner-robot quality to the new appearance, particularly at the head.

Oddly I feel Ratchet's safe. He's in a precarious situation but if he was going to be killed off I don't think it would be drawn out like this. Even so it's one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a TF comic in a long time. The look on Ratchet's face...!

Pharma described how he was rescued, the question is who's the genius that gave him those nifty hands.

And I just assume the space bridge is how the Legislators, and Skids' other foe, are getting onto the Lost Light.

What I also like about this issue that, despite Lockdown, the Insecticons and the surprise other continuity robots, it seems like the actual bad guys are Autobots?!?

i_amtrunks

20th June 2013, 08:47 PM

The thing about Ultra Magnus is when you look again I think you can see a certain inner-robot quality to the new appearance, particularly at the head.

Pretender technology? :D

Oddly I feel Ratchet's safe. He's in a precarious situation but if he was going to be killed off I don't think it would be drawn out like this. Even so it's one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a TF comic in a long time. The look on Ratchet's face...

Pharma described how he was rescued, the question is who's the genius that gave him those nifty hands.

Thats the part I wanted to know more about! Who has the tech to give such useful hands to such a deranged madman (and why?)

And I just assume the space bridge is how the Legislators, and Skids' other foe, are getting onto the Lost Light.

That was my thinking as well, especially the final bot Skids confronted.

What I also like about this issue that, despite Lockdown, the Insecticons and the surprise other continuity robots, it seems like the actual bad guys are Autobots?!?

And bots that were Autobots until a very recet amount of time. I think that either the Aequitas trials drove Tyret to these actions, or to search for who is actually in charge as only 25 years does not seem that long to amass the collection that he has at his disposal. I wonder who is the shadow puppet behind all of this, above Tyrest (if that is the case).

I worry that the answers promised next issue (it has been mentioned in the creator commentary, it will relate to Skids) that the answers may not necessarily be to the questions we're asking!

SMHFConvoy

20th June 2013, 08:58 PM

I wonder if Sean Chen realised he drew the 3rd party Buffer on this issue's variant cover ;)

Very nice reveal btw. Very nice.

Man I need a new PC. Sick of my nexus 7 auto correcting and me not noticing :rolleyes:

Jinto

21st June 2013, 06:40 PM

The thing about Ultra Magnus is when you look again I think you can see a certain inner-robot quality to the new appearance, particularly at the head.

Pretender technology? :D

That's what I was thinking. It's certainly unlikely that Ultra... er, Minumus Ambus' original body just happened to be on Luna 1. Although I suppose Tyrest may have had something to do with keeping it around since he 'appointed' U.M. he may have planned a reunion.

Pretender tech could also be a way of saving Tailgate. Since he's potentially older than Kup, he'd need the same treatment. That'd solve his crumbling body. Perhaps there's a way to revitalize his spark at the hotspot?

Lordy

21st June 2013, 07:48 PM

I wonder if the death clock was for Ultra Magnus' "large" body, rather than his inner body.

I didn't notice that the latest issue had come out so soon (compared to the past two issues which were just released in their months). Love the reveal, and how Roberts has been peppering little bits into MTMTE which are now building into really interesting stories.

Jinto

21st June 2013, 08:26 PM

Lordy

21st June 2013, 10:01 PM

Yeah, good point about the repairs being done on UM in issue 16, it would've been obvious then if there was an inner bot when Ratchet had UM's chest open.

Just don't wanna see the big guy die :(

Will be interesting to see what gets revealed next issue in regards to answers to what's been happening the past couple of issues

SuspectimusPrime

15th July 2013, 01:12 AM

Ooh, interesting idea. You think the smaller 'Minimus' body was wearing the larger body? Surely Ratchet or someone would have noticed while performing repairs?

The death clock was specifically supposed to measure a bots spark, so I don't think he's safe yet.

Yeah, good point about the repairs being done on UM in issue 16, it would've been obvious then if there was an inner bot when Ratchet had UM's chest open.

Just don't wanna see the big guy die :(

Will be interesting to see what gets revealed next issue in regards to answers to what's been happening the past couple of issues

A little late to the party here, but would just like to throw in some juicy speculation before we get some more clues on Wednesday (Issue #19)... :p;)

Warning: Everything below is purely speculation based on events up until Issue #18 (this is all fun, please don't get upset if you intend to continue reading)

Mininus featured here definitely confirmed that he had been detained by Ultra Magnus years ago and is awaiting retrial. Should be noted that he appears to be healthy and in full control of his mental faculties.

At the same time, the UM stabbed by Overlord definitely had his own spark and aspirations (he was lamenting the fact that Tyrest has promised him things and was given those promises), revealed a few issues back when he went drinking with Swerve and used Verity as his holomatter. So the UM we know from LSOTW to date is the same robot that got stabbed to death (?).

Minimus confirms that "you have always known me as...".

Another interesting point is Minimus' body kibble - in the last two pages, we see that he has some rounded turtle-like backpack, and his shoulder pads look like they fold inwards. Roberts' character designs, and more importantly alt modes, has previously been anything but whimsical (seems like nothing is a coincidence with Roberts') - see Pharma, Rewind, Fulcrum, the DJD, and Rung (? - or at least the science bot who revealed that he transformed into a microscope featured in Shadowplay that was of a similar build to Rung). There was another issue where Chromedome and Brainstorm revealed that they had a friend who transformed into a head (sorry, that off-panel character's name eludes me).

Could Minimus be a -master, who had his original body taken away and used by Ultra Magnus?

I guess all this speculation of mine really falls to exactly, how long the Ultra Magnus we know has been featured here - he appears to be the same Ultra Magnus that fought the 'Warriors Elite' comprised of Megatron, Heretech, Overlord, Black Shadow, and Sixshot.. ages ago. Like thousands of years ago. The length of time that Minimus mentioned that he has been here is unknown, only that his sentence was 'a thousand years', and that he is 'still awaiting retrial'.

Could he have ridiculously spent more time awaiting retrial than the actual length of his sentence?

"I'd rather wait and win my appeal. Justice can't be rushed." - that little four letter word was definitely bolded and written in italics :p

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It might also be worth noting that all of the Autobot Legislators are 'big robots' - UM, SS, '1984' robots, and even Tyrest is revealed to be huge. If UM has an inner-robot inside, then what about SS?

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... Another thought...
Many if's! Last one - if SS is a Brainmaster, the can UM be one as well?

i_amtrunks

16th July 2013, 06:47 PM

This 4 page preview (https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/transformers-more-than-meets/id674205359?mt=11) is going to cause a lot of angst, anger, ridicule, surprise and satisfaction, plus a whole lot more for the readership.

Lets just say that some theories put forward here and elsewhere are bang on the money.

I won't say anything spoilerish, except that for no real reason I feel better about Tailgate surviving. No evidence for my thought, just a hope. :D

Paulbot

16th July 2013, 06:58 PM

The teaser cliffhanger I saw (page 3) is worse than the last issue cliffhanger! I can't wait to read the next sentence! Only about 30 hours to go though so not too bad.

i_amtrunks

16th July 2013, 07:31 PM

The teaser cliffhanger I saw (page 3) is worse than the last issue cliffhanger! I can't wait to read the next sentence! Only about 30 hours to go though so not too bad.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the release info on itunes said release date is 31st of July... itunes is normally a fortnight ahead of release and I didnt see the listing on the comic store site I use.

I'm annoyed and gutted too, I am too impatient to wait a month between issues. :p

Paulbot

16th July 2013, 07:42 PM

Damn it!

:p

It was this week last time I checked this page (http://pulllist.comixology.com/idw/2013/07/17). And it meant I could go interstate next week without worry. Hope the wifi works in my hotel since I always have failure downloading on 3G.

Lordy

18th July 2013, 05:56 PM

It's the 18th, where's my MTMTE :mad:

SuspectimusPrime

19th July 2013, 12:49 AM

Yeah major bummer.. I read i_amtrunks' post but still wanted to head to King's to check anyway.. I guess I'm not as disappointed as I would have been.

i_amtrunks

29th July 2013, 08:07 PM

2 days to go!

Preview up at Seibertron and possibly other places and it is as many have deduced regarding Magnus, Star Sabre etc.

No sighting of Ratchet though...

Lord_Zed

31st July 2013, 11:57 PM

Just read issue 19, pretty awesome issue, with a mix of explanations, revelations and cliffhangers. With some characters lives in the balance.

Really enjoyed the Whirl and Cyclonus team up.

i_amtrunks

31st July 2013, 11:58 PM

I'll do a more in depth review later as I finally caved and bought in on comixology rather than wait another day for the paper version.

Lots of dialogue in this, lots of back story. Still no idea what Skids has done and characters you weren't even thinking about last issue, you will be very worried about this issue.

Two dynamic duos fill the second stories, Ratchet and Pharma and Whirl and Cyclonus. Both awesome for different reasons but both due to the excellent writing. At is beautiful, colours perfect and let's superb. Cannot wait to re read, but very annoyed that there will be another 4 weeks to get the next issue!

Lordy

1st August 2013, 06:03 PM

It was well over 6 weeks between issues 18 and 19.

What an issue, so much explanation, but still some questions. Pharma is one sick in the head TF.

kup

4th August 2013, 03:14 PM

Yeah really awesome issue! As mentioned, a lot of reveals providing answers but along comes new questions to keep the plot interesting! Can't wait till next issue.

*SPOILERS*

Interesting how Minimus Ambus' Magnus armor breaks up into pieces which are similar to both the Dreamwave cover and City Commander. This new take on 'Magnus' innerbot' is a refreshing new take than a Prime clone and further makes Ultra Magnus a more interesting character.

I wonder if some 3rd party will make a Minimus Ambus toy that can fit the City Commander armor :P

Lordy

4th August 2013, 04:51 PM

SMHFConvoy

4th August 2013, 05:24 PM

Yeah, I like the idea different Autobots being UM, fits in well, also covers things like the armor changes over the years.

*Speculation warning*

There are hints that Tailgate might become the next UM. He is a white bot with blue highlights, just like another inner bot that UM might have had ;)

I had similar thoughts but I find this title does unexpected things.

Speculation Warning 2:

So I considered who else could be a good candidate and I'd say Rung. Remember the Minimus is a lower tier 1 percenter capable of load bearing, I'd say Rung could be in that class too.

But as it's been pointed out Tailgate's inner most energon is green (issue 12) and not pink like the majority. That could be foreshadowing much like MTMTE #16 where the deaths of the previous "Magni" showed their hands going for the return trigger.

GoktimusPrime

4th August 2013, 08:10 PM

I really like the new take on Ultra Magnus being an assumed identity, and also the whole bot in armour thing which harks back to the original G1 Ultra Magnus toy concept. :) I wouldn't mind seeing Tailgate becoming the next Ultra Magnus -- I'd like to see them continue on w/ the Ultra Magnus legacy rather than replacing him with Star Sabre. Pah.

Nice cameo from Diaclone Magnus. ;)

SMHFConvoy

4th August 2013, 08:56 PM

I'd like to see them continue on w/ the Ultra Magnus legacy rather than replacing him with Star Sabre. Pah.

That would be up to chief justice threat wouldn't it? :D

i_amtrunks

4th August 2013, 09:58 PM

That would be up to chief justice threat wouldn't it? :D

Calling when Tyrest is dealt with that Minimus Ambus decides to stay behind to fix the Tyrest accord and mainatain the database, bequething the Magnus armour to Tailgate.

But that would be too nice and neat for Roberts.

Lord_Zed

6th August 2013, 04:09 PM

I wonder if some 3rd party will make a Minimus Ambus toy that can fit the City Commander armor :P

Or more likely make a whole new IDW Magnus toy altogether (*cough* Maketoys). It is the era of double ups, not team ups, when it comes to toys anyway.:D

bassbot

6th August 2013, 07:28 PM

I likewise enjoy this new take on Magnus, and also spotted ther foreshadowing of Tailgate taking the mantle.

However, that seems way to easy and cut n dry for Roberts. I'm hearing many people thinking Whirl might not make it out alive. And now seeing the smelting pool in this issue leads me to connect with the cover for issue 20 with him standing atop a fiery scene.

GoktimusPrime

6th August 2013, 07:55 PM

...yeah but Whirl's a tool, so I wouldn't care all that much if he snuffed it. It's far more gut wrenching seeing characters that I've invested in bite the dust! :eek: Although Ambulon's demise was disturbing... even worse than the way Predaking got taken out in TF Zone (I guess cos of all the gushing mech fluid and also he has a human-like face. Eww.

Tyrest is a d**k.

Paulbot

6th August 2013, 08:38 PM

It was a great shock panel but don't kill off characters in your mind too quickly. Particularly in this book. The repair competition hasn't even started yet.

SMHFConvoy

9th August 2013, 05:51 PM

SuspectimusPrime

10th August 2013, 02:40 PM

OK anything, anything shown or discussed in MTMTE is not there for the hell of it. I'm rereading #8, page 1, panel 4 Torque is the K-class 'con who blew up a previous Ultra Magnus.

This is why I like this book.

That same Magnus was was blown up was also seen wearing his Autobot insignia at a very obvious angle :)

Skript

19th August 2013, 09:53 AM

enjoy lurking this thread, MTMTE is definetly my favourite, and loving the panel time Magnus and Chromedome have been getting.
One of the few books that make me laugh out loud and feel a sense of sadness knowing there will be a month long wait as I get to that final page...

Love the speculations going on here!

Really enjoying Tailgate as his own character, would hate for him to be the next Magnus...
Imagine if it was Whirl? ;p

Paulbot

19th August 2013, 05:44 PM

I had the thought the other night that prior to MTMTE, I never had an idea in my head about Chromedome as a character. Despite being in the original US comics, a few UK stories, Rebirth, and those few eps of Headmasters I've watched, he never had any defining aspects to me beyond appearance. I had a better idea of who Stylor was than who Chromedome was.

I was suprised to read in his expanded "Universe" bio, that "Chromedome turned his skills to limiting the potential for violence by reprogramming many of his Autobot colleagues to be able to outsmart their foes". The idea of Shadowplay and the related mnemosurgery was set up like 25 years ago, but it took that long for a writer to actually look at the original character description and do something with it.

And this is yet another reason I love this series.

Paulbot

28th August 2013, 08:41 PM

Got the latest issue tonight on my way home from work and read it right away. Sure I missed my train but I was impatient. Now another month to wait! Argh!

There is one thing I'd complain about in this issue (due to repetition), and one thing that seemed off to me (for IDWverse version of a certain character) but will be all over tumblr tomorrow, but I'll wait until a few others have read it.

i_amtrunks

28th August 2013, 10:07 PM

Impatiently waiting for comixology to update as my local didnt have it on shelf today, hoping for it tomorrow as it has already been too long.

I hope IDW fix up their scheduling, nothing for two weeks then three issues (albeit one is a filler title) in one week?

Sharky

28th August 2013, 10:17 PM

I hope IDW fix up their scheduling, nothing for two weeks then three issues (albeit one is a filler title) in one week?

it sux especially since im a sucker that gets multiple covers........

i_amtrunks

28th August 2013, 11:08 PM

Bugger. Comixology just updated and yet I cannot purchase the issue due to an apple issue that means they are not accepting any payments (or updates or anything useful). Been like this for several hours already.

Apple blaming banks, banks saying there is no issue at their end. Wish apple would take responsibility when they've stuffed up. :rolleyes:

i_amtrunks

29th August 2013, 08:23 AM

Got it, read it, was affected by it. As in I cannot stop thinking about where this is going and how it will be concluded.

Prowl has been written in the recent IDW stories as having a billion and one schemes going on to try and help the Autobot cause, but it seems that everything he touches turns to crap.

Getaway is already a new favourite and I cannot help but think that all the hints we are getting about Tailgate becoming the new magnus are a false trail.

Quite a few deaths already in the issue with a couple of thousand (hundred thousands??? Million???) fading. Too bad we already know a few of the shown afflicted across the universe survive into Dark Cybertron. Some very big name bots were constructed cold, too many to all be offed at once.

And Grimlock's one panel is brilliant.

Art continues to be spectacular, lettering is perfect. IDW has really hit their stride here, which is a shame as some of the preview pages for Dark Cybertron look very ordinary.

Lordy

29th August 2013, 05:34 PM

I've read the issue a few times. I also so that James Roberts posted this:

http://i.imgur.com/VYGfWx8.jpg

Spoilers and baseless thoughts below. Highlight to see:

I felt sad when I saw Soundwave holding Ravage, asking for anyone to help fix him.

Also sad to see Dai Atlas only really last half an issue in total with Star Saber taking him out.

I wonder with the extra power that Cyclonus can channel through his sword that he'll take on Star Saber.

Sad to see Ambulon die, and will be interesting to see if Ratchet does die in the next issue or what he was telling First Aid is false.

Getaway seems to be a cool character and I hope Roberts holds onto him. I love the back story for both him and Skids, and how it fits in nicely with the current storyline. Makes you wonder what Optimus Prime might have done if he came face to face with either Star Saber or Tyrest in this situation.

I think Tailgate is lined up for death, which will make Cyclonus snap big time

Also, I wonder what happened to Perceptor? He wasn't with Rodimus when they entered the room where the Space Bridge was, nor was he shown when the killswitch was turned on

SuspectimusPrime

29th August 2013, 10:08 PM

It would have been equally sad if Soundwave was the one fading and Ravage had been the one balling over him.

I was sad to see Blaster fade - he was my favourite original 80's Furman-era Autobot leader candidate. Would have liked for Mainframe to play more of a role before passing out (nevertheless, he's made it quite far in terms of panel time for an Actionmaster who's alt mode is most likely a computer server, and let's not forget his cameos in Animated). Same for Krok and the other two members of the Scavengers (good to see them get some panel time again).

I really didn't expect to see Dai Altas for long; knowing how twisted Roberts is - it would have been too convenient to bring in a super-powerful ally for the Lost Light. Also for a robot that would be quite difficult to have an updated toy for I guess his 'sell' value is low.

SuspectimusPrime

29th August 2013, 10:08 PM

Also, super-glad I bought Cover B ;)

i_amtrunks

29th August 2013, 10:46 PM

Don't know why you're posting in spoiler hiding white. It's a discussion thread, people come in here knowing there will be discussion about it! :)

After reading the physical copy I picked up on a few more things that weren't as easy to see on comixology. Brainstorms briefcase has to open next issue. There are a few bots missing from storming Tyrest and we all know that Rodimus loves to make plans that make him out to be an idiot that work wonders.

Pharma has to get his comeuppance, Star Sabre needs to be kicked to the curb and if there isn't an off switch, it'll be a giant disappointment if Dark Cybertron somehow revives tf across the cosmos. Sure the ones on Cybertron who are in proximity, but not the others (that being said, I'd hate for the DJD, survivors etc to stay dead).

I get Dai Atlas had to go, I hope Drift comes back and leads the Crystal City survivors away (since the leftovers are all forged) and we never have to deal with him again. Ambulance on the other hand is a big loss. I also love the way First Aid thinks.

I am wondering what Tyrest is hearing, or who. It'd be great if it were Mortilus, but I think that makes no sense. I'm inking that Perceptor may have somehow found a way to rig the portal to send him into a sun or some such. As for Ambus Minimus, he lured them all to the cell so they could stop Tyrest, that'll be the big reveal.

Paulbot

1st September 2013, 10:22 PM

There is one thing I'd complain about in this issue (due to repetition), and one thing that seemed off to me (for IDWverse version of a certain character)

The one complaint was Ratchet's escape and it was only because Roberts has had a trapped hero use a dead colleague's body as a means of escape before (back when Orion Pax did it a couple of million years ago).

I found Soundwave's paternal concern for Ravage a bit off, but I've since been reminded that he reacted in a similar way in AHM.

Prowl has been written in the recent IDW stories as having a billion and one schemes going on to try and help the Autobot cause, but it seems that everything he touches turns to crap.

Quite a few deaths already in the issue with a couple of thousand (hundred thousands??? Million???) fading.

I'm not sure Prowl actually is the boss. It feels like a bit of a red herring but we'll see.

I'd be interested to see if any NAILS are affected by the pulse too, or if the "Matrix born" Cybertronians mostly started to appear.

Also, I wonder what happened to Perceptor? He wasn't with Rodimus when they entered the room where the Space Bridge was, nor was he shown when the killswitch was turned on[/COLOR]

After reading the physical copy I picked up on a few more things that weren't as easy to see on comixology. Brainstorms briefcase has to open next issue. There are a few bots missing from storming Tyrest and we all know that Rodimus loves to make plans that make him out to be an idiot that work wonders.

Pharma has to get his comeuppance, Star Sabre needs to be kicked to the curb and if there isn't an off switch, it'll be a giant disappointment if Dark Cybertron somehow revives tf across the cosmos. Sure the ones on Cybertron who are in proximity, but not the others (that being said, I'd hate for the DJD, survivors etc to stay dead).

Yes Perceptor's absence is quite notable. And between the clasps being used in escape attempt and the briefcase out of Brainstorm's hand, it would appear to be a key element. I also think the reminder that Pharma may still be infected with the Rust virus was intentional.

There's too many big names affected for the plan to be fulfilled but exactly how they get undo it is the big question. Great montage though. I was glad to see the Scavengers back briefly but I really want to see more of them soon.

The finale also made me think back to the Necrobot's list and if maybe the robots on that list were constructed cold (since Chromedome was). And it occurred to me that Ultra Magnus is on that list after Drift and Chromedome, but Ultra Magnus we now know died a long time ago... So what exactly was that list and who exactly is that robot.

i_amtrunks

1st September 2013, 11:15 PM

I found Soundwave's paternal concern for Ravage a bit off, but I've since been reminded that he reacted in a similar way in AHM.

I may be wrong here, but I thought a preview for RiD #21 showed Soundwave with a damaged vocal processor, and unable to talk, so how he has done so here makes a little continuity problem!

I also never thought that Pharma would still not be able to transform since he was in the medibay of miracles. We have not seen him transform either.

There are a lot of holes and sore points that I am sure were (mostly) left there intentionally to be solved in the next issue and future issues.

I'm hoping at some point we get a Survivors or DJD (or both) mini, yearly or full text stories. I'd happily pay a few dollars for online content since I doubt there would be sufficient support for print versions.

GoktimusPrime

5th September 2013, 03:21 PM

Graaargh! Friggin' cliffhanger! XO

Sad to see Ambulon die,
I'm not. Can't stand these non-toy characters. Good riddance. Now for Rung...

Getaway seems to be a cool character and I hope Roberts holds onto him. I love the back story for both him and Skids, and how it fits in nicely with the current storyline.
Bomp.

I may be wrong here, but I thought a preview for RiD #21 showed Soundwave with a damaged vocal processor, and unable to talk, so how he has done so here makes a little continuity problem!
They probably just replaced it between then and now. It's just a vocal processor; can't be that hard to replace/fix... it's not as if they're gonna have someone walking around as a mute (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bumblebee_(Movie)) talking in digital farts for the rest of the story (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bumblebee_(WFC))! ;)

Paulbot

5th September 2013, 04:49 PM

I may be wrong here, but I thought a preview for RiD #21 showed Soundwave with a damaged vocal processor, and unable to talk, so how he has done so here makes a little continuity problem!

Yes you're right there was a mute Soundwave recently. I tend not to recall details of RID too much. Read once, disregard.

I also never thought that Pharma would still not be able to transform since he was in the medibay of miracles. We have not seen him transform either.

I wonder if, despite his claims, he's not actually able to do as much with the Luna-1 medbay as we think? Ratchet goaded him on that, that Pharma couldn't even remove a pair of hands.

Pharma was also supposed to show his superiority by beating Ratchet in a race to repair Ambulon and First Aid, but then never actually caused the same injury to First Aid... (called away by Tyrest it seems but it's still odd.)

I'm hoping at some point we get a Survivors or DJD (or both) mini, yearly or full text stories. I'd happily pay a few dollars for online content since I doubt there would be sufficient support for print versions.
Yeah some text backup stories about those guys would be a great idea.

Sharky

5th September 2013, 06:59 PM

Yes you're right there was a mute Soundwave recently. I tend not to recall details of RID too much. Read once, disregard.

Ha that is pretty much my attitude towards RID.. when it comes out its like ugh what now its no where near as entertaining as MTMTE and i think RID has lost its way a little

i wonder if they could finish that up and have MTMTE out fortnightly.

Paulbot

25th September 2013, 07:47 PM

Lordy

26th September 2013, 05:54 PM

Sharky

26th September 2013, 08:58 PM

Interested in people's opinions on the latest issue.

Bonus text story too. Love those. Can't think of many comic book writer who put in that extra effort.

There's at least one little thing in a previous issue that suddenly makes sense in a way I never expected, and I look forward to rereading the whole series again now.

have not read the text story yet but the issue itself was pretty good,

i was suprised by the lack of death tho...for something that was promoted/insinuated as heavy caulties

was that Quint tenticles too??

Paulbot

26th September 2013, 09:16 PM

I kinda expected far more big name deaths in this issue, I could say I was kinda sad to see Minimus return, and that Tailgate was cured. I guess I've got used to Roberts just killing off characters that I got used to it :)

Also sad to see in the prose story that Fortress Maximus has left the Lost Light to stay on Luna 1 with Red Alert and the remaining members of the Circle of Light.

Reading the digital version of this issue threw me out when I saw Cyclonus kick Whirl into the melting pool, only see it was a fantasy he had.
That worked on paper too (better than First Aid's actions for instance). The fake outs though... A bit cruel. Especially that last one! Shocking.

I was a little disappointed that Red Alert was revived, and Fort Max departed "off panel" so to speak. But happy for four more pages of story regardless.

After learning Tailgate's "actual" age, I want to reread all the issues again.

have not read the text story yet but the issue itself was pretty good,

i was suprised by the lack of death tho...for something that was promoted/insinuated as heavy caulties

was that Quint tenticles too??

Tentacles, a group of five symbols, it has to be our first guess.

Lack of death was the same criticism that the Overlord story suffered from. I think we expect in TF stories lots of death because they can get away with it when it's just robots. Making the deaths rarer makes them more powerful. The problem is that after fake outs, when an injury sure looks fatal, its hard to be sure when we should care too much...

But Rodimus' "what the hell" moment sure made me laugh out loud!

i_amtrunks

29th September 2013, 12:46 AM

Finally found a copy while on a day trip in Brisvegas.

Another solid issue, but not as enticing as some previous issues. We all knew that the killswitch would be reversed somehow, but breaking the matrix map to do so was a nice twist. Tailgates ending regarding Whirl was wonderfully executed too.

I'm glad that Minimus didn't let Tyrest know about the second load he was bearing, that Ratchet knew everything all along and that Rodimus is ready to grow up. Wish we have gotten more with Skids and more Getaway too, but ah well. First Aids little moment was great, my first thought regarding Pharma's body was also Quints.

Prose was excellent, but also sad that so much happened off panel that will be noticeable. Also I imagine in another year or so there'll be a lot of readers asking why Red Alert or Fort Max haven't been healed/ seen. I'm guessing we might get a half page or two on them here and there in later issues.

BigTransformerTrev

2nd October 2013, 12:41 PM

I was a little disappointed that Red Alert was revived, and Fort Max departed "off panel" so to speak. But happy for four more pages of story regardless.

I'm glad I read you guys reviews - I hadn't bothered to read the 4 pages at the end and had just assumed their were the usual creators commentary :o

Yeah the more story thing is good, but you'd love to see it actually panelled out.

Though I am happy for Tailgate to have survived (he and Pipes were amongst my first dozen ever TF's and I was heartbroken when Pipes snuffed it) I felt a little cheated after the emotion of watching what I thought was Cyclonus putting him out of his misery. They had already done that one with the 'Whirl's death fantasy' earlier in the issue. :rolleyes:

Ha! I called it loooong ago that Magnus wouldn't die, even when I saw Minimus' head crushed last issue I knew it wouldn't happen. But then I think a lot of people guessed the same as me anyway :) ;)

GoktimusPrime

13th October 2013, 11:20 AM

I enjoyed the "emotional rollercoaster" of this issue, especially with Whirl's fantasy death and Tailgate's apparent euthanasia-that-was-really-his-salvation. I thought that was nicely done. :) I must admit I didn't predict Ambus' comeback at all, and that came as a surprise that felt like a cheat to me. So apparently he's an Ultra Pretender. :/ Also one thing that bugs me about Ambus' form... where's the alt mode kibble? Doesn't he transform into something or does he solely rely on his Magnus armour to do that? That makes him more of a matryoshka doll than any kind of Pretender. :p For that matter... what the hell does Rung transform into? Man he bugs me... kill him already and make a toy!! Although the way he compulsively built a model of Ark-5 out of glasses was funny. ;)

The text story at the end was kewl - reminds me of the text stories Furman wrote for the G1 Annuals. :) Man... I really wanna know what's in the briefcase and what that glowing green light is!

My minor gripes about this issue:
+ The story writing still feels too "human"; particularly the "Yanko"/"Anglo" centric nature of it. Acronyms and punctuation rooted in English in a story based on alien robots where some of whom (like Tailgate) have never been to Earth?!? Please... I know that the G1 comics did the same thing too, but I guess I can overlook that because those comics were written for kids, whereas the IDW comics are clearly written for adults. It all makes it feel like the story is being "dumbed down" for the audience (specifically an American audience). While the whole semicolon thing was cool in terms of referencing back to events at the beginning of MTMTE, it also bugs me as to why Chief Justice Tyrest would even use Earth based (originally Italian) punctuation in what would've been a Cybertronian language. I guess I'll have to assume that the Cybertronian language Tyrest used just coincidentally has a piece of punctuation that equates to a semicolon (even though a lot of Earth languages don't use it, wateva :rolleyes:).
+ Would still like to see more transforming happening in these stories. Like when Cyclonus receives the message from Ratchet, he could've quickly transformed to jet mode to rush to medbay, right?

"Simple, disguise. Besides, it sure beats walking!" - Trailbreaker (More Than Meets The Eye)

i_amtrunks

14th October 2013, 07:09 PM

MtMtE #22 preview (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/idw-transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-22-preview/28578/).

It is a catch up / review issue, with a new artist. It's a more detailed style of art. Story is meant to revolve around footage Rewind had recorded of the previous #21 issues.

I'm sure there will be plenty of bits and pieces that add more detail to previously seen scenes as well as clues and other odds and ends dropped for future stories.

i_amtrunks

16th October 2013, 05:39 PM

Paulbot

16th October 2013, 07:02 PM

My store had it. But I wasn't in a rush given its an epilogue and mostly because of the preview so wouldn't have really cared if I had to wait.

Main reaction: why so much black ink? It doesn't suit the book's style at all and really overpowers the colouring too. I guess they are trying to make the video footage more "realistic" since its showing "real life" but I'd rather they'd just done an interlace effect over everything or something else instead. The look is dirty, oily?

Otherwise the story is overall fine but it's the most self contained, almost throw away, issue so far. I think some elements, like Rung's altmode will come up again. I've now got a least favourite issue of the series.

Lord_Zed

16th October 2013, 10:35 PM

For that matter... what the hell does Rung transform into? Man he bugs me... kill him already and make a toy!! Although the way he compulsively built a model of Ark-5 out of glasses was funny. ;)

Rung can't die, he's a historical constant, and I presume he transforms into some kind of trike or scooter, in fact he reminds me a bit of Gobots Scooter.

Anyway he's needed for his psychiatry skills to deal with the somewhat unstable crew of the lost light.

+ Would still like to see more transforming happening in these stories. Like when Cyclonus receives the message from Ratchet, he could've quickly transformed to jet mode to rush to medbay, right?

"Simple, disguise. Besides, it sure beats walking!" - Trailbreaker (More Than Meets The Eye)

What do you think this is a? A Transformers comic? It's all about mental and philosophical transformations these days, physical transformations are so 1980's. :p

i_amtrunks

17th October 2013, 08:14 AM

#22 is a nice issue, lots of little fun things in it, Thunderclash, the two warring factions and plenty of one liners from Rung, Swerve and Whirl.

As a filler comic it was really nicely done, lots of mini stories with an over all feel of flow and movement. However I think it would have been better served if it was placed in an Annual, seeing as there was nothing in this issue that had to be seen. I know that there will be things in this issue that will become more important in time (as it seems there always is in MtMtE), Rungs alt mode, Rung in general, the warring bots, Thunderclash etc.

But after the prose story we got at the end of #21, I cannot help but feel that the stories and developments in the prose story would have made a far better "wind up" comic to finish the first big arc.

Art is different, at times it was too heavy handed on the inks, but overall the look suited the comic, it was far more gritty than the normal comic/cartoon look of MtMtE. It's nice every now and again, but I am glad that the book doesnt look like this week in week out.

Overall a nice comic that is far from required reading. I'm not sure if this is my least favourite issue, but I think it was too disconnected as an issue. So it would be my least recommended issue of the run. Overall it was a good meaty read, far longer than most comics.

And check out the B cover for a great laugh. The first step in Rung's toy instructions is to raise both the eyebrows! :D

Paulbot

17th October 2013, 08:57 AM

But after the prose story we got at the end of #21, I cannot help but feel that the stories and developments in the prose story would have made a far better "wind up" comic to finish the first big arc.

Checkout what James Roberts has to say (http://boards.idwpublishing.com/3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15275&p=353870#p353870) about epilogues and filler and how this latest issue was written months ahead because of the Skids toy. Damn you Hasbro!

bassbot

17th October 2013, 09:39 AM

I dunno if it's deliberately to be realistic, and more just reflective of James Raiz' style and then how the inker and Josh Burcham have worked on it. It's different from the typical MTMTE style and ya be jarring for some.

My store had it. But I wasn't in a rush given its an epilogue and mostly because of the preview so wouldn't have really cared if I had to wait.

Main reaction: why so much black ink? It doesn't suit the book's style at all and really overpowers the colouring too. I guess they are trying to make the video footage more "realistic" since its showing "real life" but I'd rather they'd just done an interlace effect over everything or something else instead. The look is dirty, oily?

Otherwise the story is overall fine but it's the most self contained, almost throw away, issue so far. I think some elements, like Rung's altmode will come up again. I've now got a least favourite issue of the series.

bassbot

17th October 2013, 10:16 AM

GoktimusPrime

17th October 2013, 06:03 PM

Not sure about anyone else but Phantomzone Parramatta said that MtMtE 22 was the only comic that didn't ship this week, they expect it in a fortnight.

These near constant delays are getting annoying and aren't good for the retailers. I'll download it tonight from comixology, and but it in store, but only because it is MtMtE.
I called them today and they said that it should be in within a week or two.

This isn't as bad as 1991 when they got G1 US#78, then missed #79 and got in #80. I was so used to always getting my comics in order I didn't even bother checking the issue number and proceeded to read #80 without having read #79! Then it was months later until they finally got #79... I remember making up my own comic as a school art project essentially filling in the events between #78 and #80, which turned out to be entirely different from #79 (and ultimately I had to make the ending splinter away from #80). I did get top marks for that assignment as well as an award. :) But geez... so sucked having the end of G1 spoiled for me because I read the last two issues in reverse order. :(

Then there was 2003 where they came close to missing a few issues of Armada due to distribution issues w/ Diamond... gah. So I don't mind a slight delay, as long as we get the comics in!

Rung can't die, he's a historical constant, and I presume he transforms into some kind of trike or scooter, in fact he reminds me a bit of Gobots Scooter.
Now I just want him to die even more! :p

What do you think this is a? A Transformers comic? It's all about mental and philosophical transformations these days, physical transformations are so 1980's. :p
Haha! :D

i_amtrunks

17th October 2013, 06:03 PM

Checkout what James Roberts has to say (http://boards.idwpublishing.com/3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15275&p=353870#p353870) about epilogues and filler and how this latest issue was written months ahead because of the Skids toy. Damn you Hasbro!

I get that they wanted a non-story issue to go with Skids, but surely an issue that had him in it more would have been better? Sometimes it seems Hasbro has no idea what they want and just guess randomly.

SMHFConvoy

17th October 2013, 06:40 PM

Sadly my LCS didn't receive #22 from Diamond this week.

*Shakes fist at Diamond Distributors*

Lordy

18th October 2013, 07:53 PM

Did anyone get an "Ace Rimmer" vibe from Thunderclash? :)

Iriorne

18th October 2013, 11:58 PM

I get that they wanted a non-story issue to go with Skids, but surely an issue that had him in it more would have been better?

That was my thought when I read that this was the pack-in for Generations Skids. He doesn't even seem to be in the group shot on the last page. I thought maybe it was before he was picked up but First Aid's in shot, and Swerve has a drinks tray which definitely puts it sometime after #5.

I've always loved the Turbomaster/Predator line and was really excited to see Alex Milne's rendition of Thunderclash on the A cover (wish I could get a print of it!) - sadly the interior art is a major departure from the established style with lots of detail, heavy lines and shadowing and dirt/damage spots everywhere. I've never been a fan of the 'humanised' faces either, they just look wrong on transforming robots. :)

The story, while probably the weakest so far, is still enjoyable and fills in some gaps while providing a nice change of pace between Remain in Light and Dark Cybertron.

Did anyone get an "Ace Rimmer" vibe from Thunderclash?

Yes! I couldn't place it until I read your post but that's definitely it, and it's perfect for Thunderclash. :D I'm only sorry that we're unlikely to see him again/very often due to his incredibly one-dimensional characterisation.

BigTransformerTrev

22nd October 2013, 12:34 PM

I just got something! Chromedome keeps referring to the fact his actual name is 'Tumbler'.

Check out his alt-form when they are fleeing the Cons on the missing moon, his alt-mode resembles the batmobile from the latest movies, which is also called 'The Tumbler'!

There ya go, I learnt something today :D

Cat

22nd October 2013, 03:15 PM

Alpha Trion's alt-mode in the recent Pax Spotlight also reminded me of the Tumbler.

KalEl

3rd November 2013, 08:35 PM

No one slap me but I'm finally catching up on mtmte up to issue 9 :) good stuff.

kup

4th November 2013, 10:10 AM

*SPOILERS*

Yeah I didn 't like this issue that much. It wasn't terrible like a Costa issue or brain dead like a McCarthy's 'writing' but it just seemed very below par with the rest of the MTMTE series.

After reading the James Roberts post, I can see why. It was basically something that Hasbro imposed and forced rather than something that organically grew from the story. Unfortunately this decision also prevented the far more interesting text story we saw last to become a full issue on it's own which sucks. As mentioned, the story there is much more relevant to the overall plot with a lot of important points than what we got in this 'filler' story.

This filler story was still enjoyable enough, it had it's comedic moments but I was a bit turned off by Rung's 'alt mode'. I was wanting him to be a scooter. If they add some mystery to his 'club' mode then maybe but right now its kind of dull and it seems to have been purely done for comedic reasons dictated by the story's situation.

The 'other warring race' also seemed a bit strange and out of the blue.

The art - I really disliked it and thought it too gritty and unsuitable for a more 'light hearted' issue. Another oddity, possibly also forced by Hasbro as it doesn't make sense to have such a 'dark and gritty' art work for a story which is largely comedic.

My least favourite MTMTE issue for sure but not so tragic that it damages the rest of the series. I hope Hasbro keeps its paws away from Roberts and co's work but unwanted 'suggestions' is the reality that all toy comic book writers had to endure in the past. A reality that Bob Budiansky, Simon Furman and now James Roberts know too well.

Cat

4th November 2013, 06:24 PM

The art - I really disliked it and thought it too gritty and unsuitable for a more 'light hearted' issue. Another oddity, possibly also forced by Hasbro as it doesn't make sense to have such a 'dark and gritty' art work for a story which is largely comedic.

Dude, it's James Raiz.

It wasn't Hasbro mandated.

kup

4th November 2013, 08:44 PM

Dude, it's James Raiz.

It wasn't Hasbro mandated.

Yeah maybe not. The reason why I mentioned it was that it so happened that during the height of the 'movie era' when Hasbro was putting all their cookies in one pot, they decided to have that god awful movie inspired art in Costa's IDW. I saw that as too coincidental.

I always felt that was forced by Hasbro since they like to force what they think 'it's the next big thing' on everything else even if it has nothing to do with it. Kind of like how Hasbro forced to make WFC/FOC 'Transformers Prime' when there was little to nothing to do with it.

kup

4th November 2013, 08:52 PM

I have a theory:

What if Rung is actually a 'load bearer' and that is why he has such an 'odd' alt mode? Maybe he is meant to be augmented with armor for his alt mode to have any sense.

I thought of it given that Minimus Ambus kind of has a 'humanoid' type body which is not dissimilar to Rung's without the backwheel.

Maybe they will eventually find the 'Powered Convoy' armor and get Rung to wear it ;)

Cat

4th November 2013, 09:35 PM

Yeah maybe not. The reason why I mentioned it was that it so happened that during the height of the 'movie era' when Hasbro was putting all their cookies in one pot, they decided to have that god awful movie inspired art in Costa's IDW. I saw that as too coincidental.

I always felt that was forced by Hasbro since they like to force what they think 'it's the next big thing' on everything else even if it has nothing to do with it. Kind of like how Hasbro forced to make WFC/FOC 'Transformers Prime' when there was little to nothing to do with it.

That style was purely Don's choice. He was pretty upset at the reaction to it.

James Raiz used to do some TF stuff for DW, and did covers really early on for IDW (Infiltration 0 he did one, can't remember what others, if any).

What you're seeing is James' style. It IS a bit of an odd fit for MTMTE, but overall, it worked for me. But I can understand why it didn't connect for others.

Paulbot

4th November 2013, 09:56 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Raiz do more Transformers, just not this book, or not an entire issue (using a different artist for flashbacks worked well recently in RID). As I commented before, my view is that this is "real world" since it's all "actual" footage of Transformers, but I'm happy with the regular comical but still very detailed, regular style. Except page 20 ruins this a bit.

I have a theory:

What if Rung is actually a 'load bearer' and that is why he has such an 'odd' alt mode? Maybe he is meant to be augmented with armor for his alt mode to have any sense.

I thought of it given that Minimus Ambus kind of has a 'humanoid' type body which is not dissimilar to Rung's without the backwheel.

Maybe they will eventually find the 'Powered Convoy' armor and get Rung to wear it ;)

Makes sense combined with the fact that he also has the brightest spark on board the ship.

I think that also possibly his alt mode has something to do with the Titans. Not sure what exactly, but I just got this feeling.

Cat

4th November 2013, 10:00 PM

I think that also possibly his alt mode has something to do with the Titans. Not sure what exactly, but I just got this feeling.

Like his alt-mode actually being a key?

i_amtrunks

4th November 2013, 10:44 PM

Like his alt-mode actually being a key?

I was thinking that with his design and super spark that perhaps his was a jump starter for a Titan or a "sparkplug" or somesuch. But very similar vein of thought.

As for MtMtE #22 being mandated by Hasbro, in a way it was, so giving the art duties to an occasional artist and give the regular team worked out alright. Raiz would not be too bad on RiD, he just does not quite fit the more cartoony style of MtMtE.

Perhaps he will get more work on the third ongoing, whatever that turns out to be (movie? Aligned?)

Cat

4th November 2013, 10:50 PM

I was thinking that with his design and super spark that perhaps his was a jump starter for a Titan or a "sparkplug" or somesuch. But very similar vein of thought.

As for MtMtE #22 being mandated by Hasbro, in a way it was, so giving the art duties to an occasional artist and give the regular team worked out alright. Raiz would not be too bad on RiD, he just does not quite fit the more cartoony style of MtMtE.

Perhaps he will get more work on the third ongoing, whatever that turns out to be (movie? Aligned?)

It's G1 universe.

I'd love for it to be for one of the Special Ops teams we've seen: The Wreckers, Prowl's unit, even the past stories of the super-powered group. So much potential for the first two. It'd be awesome.

But I reckon it'll be Earth-based.

In the past I would have said I'd enjoy an ongoing done in a War Within/Chaos Theory style, but I really feel that IDW has been over-mining the past recently, and they've got to the stage of over-explaining everything and everyone. IMO, and I know not everyone will agree, we're starting to get close to the stage of seeing Darth Vader as a 10 year old kid shouting 'Wizard!' and finding out he built C3PO.

Melike

4th November 2013, 10:52 PM

Cat

4th November 2013, 10:53 PM

Not Mtmte related (which I'm quickly catching up since discovering it just a few weeks ago) but wasnt the dark energon series due out last week? I should probably catch up with everything before hitting that though right..?

Dark Cybertron #1 is out this week.

Apparently you'll be able to go into this cold, but it wouldn't hurt to catch up.

There's been Dark Cybertron Prelude issues, but they really haven't been of much importance, it seems, other than being ready made for repackaging with upcoming toys.

I think if you know the basics of the situation of the two books, you should be fine.

But obviously, that's speculation until I can say I've read it.

Paulbot

4th November 2013, 10:56 PM

Not Mtmte related (which I'm quickly catching up since discovering it just a few weeks ago) but wasnt the dark energon series due out last week? I should probably catch up with everything before hitting that though right..?

Dark Cybertron #1 is out this week.

To the second question, actually, despite some potential cast-related spoilers that would be revealed, it doesn't really look like the events of MTMTE are that important to the story of Dark Cybertron. The events of RID on the other hand are essential.

Melike

4th November 2013, 10:56 PM

Right. And I probably should wait.
..I guess.
On a side note a friend I'm working with at the moment coloured the All Hail Megatron series. I am So crossing my fingers he ends up back on a Transformers book again ;)

Melike

4th November 2013, 10:58 PM

To the second question, actually, despite some potential cast-related spoilers that would be revealed, it doesn't really look like the events of MTMTE are that important to the story of Dark Cybertron. The events of RID on the other hand are essential.

Oh ok! I think Phil Jimenez is on dark cybertron right? And I'm actually just a few issues away from being caught up on RID. Thanks for the info!

Cat

4th November 2013, 11:05 PM

Oh ok! I think Phil Jimenez is on dark cybertron right? And I'm actually just a few issues away from being caught up on RID. Thanks for the info!

Yes, but only layouts IIRC.

Which is a shame, but oh well.

Melike

4th November 2013, 11:31 PM

Well thats disapointing. His super detailed art would work really nicely here.

GoktimusPrime

6th November 2013, 08:32 PM

Picked up the latest issue today - so naturally spoilers ahead.

Rung's alt mode... SUCKS :( Yeah, I know it's meant to be funny and witty about the whole functionalist thing yada yada yada... bollocks! It's CRAP! As if I didn't dislike this character enough before, now I hate him even more! Gggguuuuuuhhh... I was hoping he'd transform into a little scooter or something... something that Hasbro can make a product of. But this?!? :~( Well... I suppose Hasbro could just ignore his canonical alt mode and just make him into a scooter bike or something anyway. I can't stand seeing this recurring character that I don't have a toy of!!!

i_amtrunks

6th November 2013, 09:34 PM

Rung's alt mode... SUCKS :( Yeah, I know it's meant to be funny and witty about the whole functionalist thing yada yada yada... bollocks! It's CRAP!

A few of us have already discussed the theory that Rungs alt mode may have something to do with upcoming events and that he function may be far more important than it would be lead on. As far as I am concerned, we have been given a big clue to Rungs importance in the last issue, we just don't know why yet. :D

Paulbot

6th November 2013, 10:27 PM

I just got it. What his alt mode might be. It's a long shot. It's speculation. It's a picture. Should I share? A guess is only a spoiler if it turns out to be true...

Edit: I'm going to start a different thread on the topic

Paulbot

21st November 2013, 12:52 PM

New issue out today, and for the first time in a long while I haven't rushed to get it as soon as possible. Although I'm interesting the crossover in general, it's a new issue of "Dark Cybertron" and that's not the same as getting a new issue of MTMTE.

i_amtrunks

21st November 2013, 06:01 PM

It's a build up issue with lots of art problems. It does not flow well, it does not read as well and it feels like an event comic. It certainly should not be called MtMtE (what IDW do with the TPBs I do not know) as it features only a few panels on board the Lost Light and bar 3, they focus on Rodimus, Magnus and Brainstorm. The other 3 have some good Swerve and Hardhead/Cyclonus/Whirl stuff.

While I am normally a fan of Livio's art style, it does not work well here in the Dead Universe, it is too hard to tell what is going on, to me, half of his panels looked like black blobs. Raiz's art style would suit other transformers comics, but his designs for prime and a few other main characters just do not sit right, and his overuse of ink ruins otherwise nice art. His framing is top notch though.

I think this will be the issue packed in with Scoop, he got a lot of page time and info dump about the covenant of Primus and Starscream's connection. I am not enjoying Rattrap's portrayal as more or less a New York/Bronx/Jersey mafia grunt. The small item I think will be the most ineteresting was the reaction from Nova when he was told that he could not yet return to Cyberton. Surely Galvatron won't take those kinds of actions well for long. Why don't they just use the same portal Pax and co used to get into the Dead Universe?

And what ever happened to explain why Hardhead (and Jhiaxus) can survive easily outside the dead universe now/ for a while now?

Sharky

21st November 2013, 09:15 PM

i didnt enjoy the changes in art and some of it looked overdone with the shadowy inks, there is a panel of brainstorm that could be awesome if it wasnt for the colouring/inking

i laughed at the Hardhead Cyclonus whirl Panel..Whirl as a charactr has been fleshed out remarkably well..

and one other word to sum up the issue

Curious

i_amtrunks

5th December 2013, 08:11 AM

Things really started moving in this issue.

Good to know Shockers has his own machinations (no link to Maximum Dinobots!), though the Metalhawk panels were confusing, I am still not sure if he is still Metalhawk, is under control/posessed etc.

Once again, the characters and scenes on the Lost Light are full of one liners, information and filling in of information, while the Cybertron based scenes are slow, plodding and repetitious of themes we have been bombarded with over and over again in RiD. Rattrap is devolving into some "gangsta" sterotype as each issue goes on. It was cool to see that losing half of your body just makes some NAILS angry; Skybyte for example!

The Dead Universe stuff is intruiging, I think it has been wise to only give us snippets of what id going on there. Good to see an old friend, and personally I wonder if Cyclonus is dying in the Dead Universe as he no longer feels aligned to Nova and co.

Lost Light is the highlight here, the Rodpod was more or less what I expected, Magnus is becoming a character again, instead of a caricature (which I found amusing, but its nice to have more than one aspect of him obsevered). The reveal at the end was all the better for the Roche-tacular art.

It is sad, but the art here is either wonderful or pitiful. Lost Light scenes are brilliantly drawn, inks are not too heavy, the colours give off a good sense of "this is somewhere different -alien even" and the Rung splash page is a favourite, I need to try and get that as one image to use as a desktop image.
The Cybertron pages are awful. Prowl's crest shrinks with every issue, is it a physical manifestation of his demasculinity? :rolleyes: The characters lack any detail, their expression is almost back to the DW "dull surprise" levels of inanity. Starscream is unsure if he wants to be in an IDW designed Amarda head or more of a Marvel G1 head. It is too simplistic and devoid of interest for what is going on, it makes the Cybertron pages feel rushed and incomplete. Compared to the other two art styles, it feels as though the RiD portion is truly letting the team down, and I wonder how long the other two can drag the half dead mangled carcass of it along before they tire of it and dump it into a river.
The Livio pages are ok, easy to tell who is who, and the style really works, but Hardhead needs to pick a design and stick with it.

Overall a fine issue, lots of pieces being setup. However it is done in a way that does not feel too fabricated, you know in the back of your mind this is still a setup issue, moving characters into place for alter on, but it is done in an enjoyable way, with enough new stuff and hints dropped to keep you engaged throughout.

GoktimusPrime

7th December 2013, 09:11 PM

...the space bridge inside Megatron feels a bit deus ex machinaish to me... :o

though the Metalhawk panels were confusing, I am still not sure if he is still Metalhawk, is under control/posessed etc.
I'm glad I wasn't the one who felt that Metalhawk was acting out of character! Maybe he's just heaps mad cos he can't applaud no more. :p

Good to see an old friend, and personally I wonder if Cyclonus is dying in the Dead Universe as he no longer feels aligned to Nova and co.
That's an interesting point. Hadn't thought of that. :o

The Cybertron pages are awful. Prowl's crest shrinks with every issue, is it a physical manifestation of his demasculinity? :rolleyes: The characters lack any detail, their expression is almost back to the DW "dull surprise" levels of inanity. Starscream is unsure if he wants to be in an IDW designed Amarda head or more of a Marvel G1 head. It is too simplistic and devoid of interest for what is going on, it makes the Cybertron pages feel rushed and incomplete. Compared to the other two art styles, it feels as though the RiD portion is truly letting the team down, and I wonder how long the other two can drag the half dead mangled carcass of it along before they tire of it and dump it into a river.
^Agreed. Soundwave's head is also missing the side parts. It kinda feels like a "Neo-Delbo" style of art. :p

The Livio pages are ok, easy to tell who is who, and the style really works, but Hardhead needs to pick a design and stick with it.
Also agreed, though it's not as bad as when IDW kept flipping between Neo G1 (e.g. Guidi, Su), Old Skool G1 (Chee) and hybrid G1-Bayformers (Figueroa). :eek: And I totally agree with what you said about Hardhead's model... also the colours for Frenzy/Rumble! So currently it's back to RIRFIB (which I personally prefer), but it could easily flip back to FIRRIB by the next issue! :rolleyes: Reminds me of Evil Betty's magic trick ("I am a great magician!") from Kung Pow: Enter The Fist - "Your shirt is red!" "Your shirt is blue!". :p ;) NYEH-HAR!

i_amtrunks

8th December 2013, 12:00 AM

...the space bridge inside Megatron feels a bit deus ex machinaish to me... :o!

I would agree, but the Space Bridge being built into Megatron has been around since the ongoing.

Paulbot

13th December 2013, 09:42 PM

It hasn't happened yet, but the spacebridge inside Megatron could give him the ability to draw antimatter from a black hole....

So far the crossover continues to show MTMTE is the better series, with the MTMTE bits the best part of each issue so far. I'm not yet convinced the crossover needs to be so intertwined yet. (Five months of this?). If there'd been an issue solely with the Lost Light meeting up with Orion and the crew splitting up; and an issue of RID with the bots finally investigating the early Sunrise and Shockwave working with the dead universe... Would that have been so bad? Maybe fewer cliffhanger points but the stories could so far act independently (until things really heat up).

bassbot

14th December 2013, 08:09 AM

Now that act one is done (first third) I think it's ready to ramp up quite a bit

Sharky

14th December 2013, 10:48 PM

Now that act one is done (first third) I think it's ready to ramp up quite a bit

One would hope it does. Whilst it has been okayish reading it hasn't been the standard I expect we have been spoilt with MTMTE

Paulbot

19th December 2013, 04:50 PM

Before I read the next chapter, I did wonder if anyone else saw the last page reveal in the latest MTMTE and thought Unicron? It had to do with him the last time somebody stole Metroplex's eyes. It would be a bit unoriginal but it could be a homage.

Lordy

22nd December 2013, 08:27 PM

I can't really see IDW using Unicron outside of ex-Marvel G1 stuff

SMHFConvoy

7th January 2014, 08:50 PM

Subscription cover for mtmte #26 featuring a bulked up Tailgate. (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-26-subscription-cover/29075/)
Source: seibertron.com

GoktimusPrime

7th January 2014, 08:59 PM

I'm surprised he's not dragging his knuckles on the ground. :p

i_amtrunks

16th January 2014, 10:10 PM

MtMtE #25/Dark Cybertron #6

So the pressing thing from the first 5 issues could be boiled down to: what was Shockwaves plan with the Necrotitan, and how does this tie into Metroplex?

Come issue #6 and we get an issue with ZERO pages featuring the cycloptic one. Sure we got a lot more Lost Light pages than the last few issues so that helps alot. Things on Cybertron barely change. It is an RiD problem, so little happens on Cybertron again, but it takes up more than it's fair share of panels.

Same thing in the dead Universe, alot of panels rehashing and floundering for time but not much happens, in fact, Nova was shown to be landing at the end of last issue, yet it takes pages of useless dialogue from Prime/Hardhead/Rodimus before he makes his actual re-appearance.

This series is really starting to show the same symptoms as RiD, it is spending a lot of time doing nothing and wasting space with useless and boring nattering to fill a page quota to draw out for time while we wait for the rushed villian monologue in #11 and stupidly fast resolution in #12.

At the moment this event is boring me and I only wait for the resumption of MtMtE. I might even drop RiD in protest unless things really ramp up and the quality drastically improves.

-Edit- After reading some more info about the issue, it turns out someone who went on a trip in a totally nonsense tie in a few years ago is back, not that you can tell from the awful art he gets on the final page.

Sharky

17th January 2014, 07:38 AM

On Twitter IDW have been posting some teasers for the future called

After The Dark

They are spoilerish so view at your own risk

ATD Teaser 1 (http://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/423152602298064896/photo/1�)

ATD teaser 2 (http://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/423591307567579136/photo/1)

And the game changer

ATD teaser 3 (http://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/423877330352611328/photo/1)

i_amtrunks

17th January 2014, 08:48 AM

Interesting...

If that last one turns to be true it could be very interesting, I wonder what Roberts had to trade to get that one.

bassbot

20th January 2014, 09:55 PM

The teasers are definitely true, cause the April solicitations have come out!

Bidoofdude

3rd February 2014, 12:57 PM

Read MTMTE #22 (Skids pack in) and although it didn't really focus on Skids, it is by far my favorite of the comics I've read. So many funny moments and Rung's altmode was entertaining as well.

Characters were really funny as well:

Cyclonus: "I'm not a Decepticon. I want that on screen"

"Footage removed by order of the duly appointed enforcer of the tyrest accord."

Blaster: "I thought you didn't like hats."
Rodimus: "Theme night at Swerve's: "People you'd like to punch."
Rodimus: "I was a lone Megatron in a sea of Whirls." CLASSIC. :D

Whirl was by far the best here in this issue:

Whirl (boastfully): "Well, I bet you haven't been blacklisted by the galactic council."

Skids: "Oh, Whirl. Don't tell me you're going to-I think 16 million years of war just came to an end"
Whirl: "And that, my itty-bitty friend, is how the experts do it." :p:D

BigTransformerTrev

4th February 2014, 04:37 PM

I thought it was quite out of character to see Optimus start in with bashing stuff and making threats, but there was reasoning behind it - breaking your knuckles then smashing your mate in the mouth is a hell of a way to tackle a problem though!

-Edit- After reading some more info about the issue, it turns out someone who went on a trip in a totally nonsense tie in a few years ago is back, not that you can tell from the awful art he gets on the final page.

Yeah, until I read DC7 I couldn't tell it was Kup either :p

GoktimusPrime

4th February 2014, 11:59 PM

Yeah, until I read DC7 I couldn't tell it was Kup either :p
I initially thought it was Spanner (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Spanner_(G1))!

i_amtrunks

6th February 2014, 07:35 PM

So MtMtE #26 is out...

And the best issue of Dark Cybertron yet. Things move forward in all three (two?) sections, characters get some good lines and the art is also the best of the series.

There is still no Shockwave/Galvatron action, and with only 3 issues plus the finale #12 which will surely have to wrap things up and return the series to their regular ongoing status, I fear that we are getting a Furman-esque event comic, where 11 issues of slow build up culminate in a four panel fist fight that ends everything overly abruptly.

The three fembots get some decent time on screen and reveal what they have been doing, events from MtMtE #22 come back to the 'fore and also throw some light on events that are sure to be revealed as important in MtMtE season 2 (regarding a "Holy Grail"). I am also now intrigued as to what the ongoing with the fembots will fcus on, events pre-Dark Cybertron or post Dark Cybertron, since the fembots seem to not have just "appeared" out of nowhere. Getaway knew of them, so could they be experiments out of the "institute"?

Whirl and Megatron get most of the good lines here, but Bumblebee and ratchet also keep things moving. Starscream gets show to once again become a pathetic wreck once he gets into a power position. I am glad he gets bugger all time here, other than to help the newly back to Iacon (gone all of an evening) characters get back into the groove (of keeping him down). The Dead Universe stuff rushes through without even trying to explain anything (other than Rodimus's numbers) and I am sure Nightbeat has been kept alive to info-dump sometime near the conclusion.

So while nothing much actually happens until the final page, the dialogue and faint glimpses of information make it seem like stuff happens, and the flow of the comic is good again. There are still negatives and weak spots, but after 7 issues, it seems to be finding its feet.

Artwise it is very strong, Burcham's colours are incredible across the board. My main complaint is that on Cybertron, Prowl's crest continues to shrink, which is a shame since Coller's cover nails him perfectly, too bad he couldn't have been the Cybertron artist throughout instead of Rojo. Kup actually looks like Kup and the fembots have some awesome designs that sadly will be lost in the translation to toy.

If you can ignore that while everything that happens in/around the Lost Light apparently takes only a few hours on Cybertron (since it has been all of maybe a day since the Bots and Cons were ejected from the city) this is starting to improve. When you hit the bottom the only way is up.

Lordy

6th February 2014, 08:21 PM

I've read the latest issue and notice that there is a huge issue with the scale of Metroplex and the undead Metrotitan.

It has been shown that the Metrotitan on Cyberton is small enough that his head is about the height of Starscream, whereas Metroplex is massive compared to that, even the Rodpod being smaller than his eye canal.

However in the final reveal on the last page it shows the Metrotitan and Metroplex to be the same height, which would be correct, but if they were using the scale from the most of the issues, Metroplex should tower over the Metrotitan.

Looks like they are going to kill off Metroplex, which I think is sad. Also the obvious writing out of Rodimus as captain of the Lost Light.

Other than that, the end is near (yay!).

Paulbot

6th February 2014, 08:40 PM

The three fembots get some decent time on screen and reveal what they have been doing, events from MtMtE #22 come back to the 'fore and also throw some light on events that are sure to be revealed as important in MtMtE season 2 (regarding a "Holy Grail").

I did feel that this issue made the events of #22 less "random-filler" than it did at the time.

There were some cryptic hints to the fembot origins ('catching up on 4 million years of whos who') but introducing them so far into the crossover seems to just clutter it further.

I've read the latest issue and notice that there is a huge issue with the scale of Metroplex and the undead Metrotitan.

It has been shown that the Metrotitan on Cyberton is small enough that his head is about the height of Starscream, whereas Metroplex is massive compared to that, even the Rodpod being smaller than his eye canal.

However in the final reveal on the last page it shows the Metrotitan and Metroplex to be the same height, which would be correct, but if they were using the scale from the most of the issues, Metroplex should tower over the Metrotitan.

<snip>

Other than that, the end is near (yay!).

I think the "Cybertron" artist is to fault here.

I agree with the Yay too.

i_amtrunks

13th March 2014, 07:58 PM

I had to buy #27 digitally as Phantomzone said shipment was delayed to Saturday, Ill get it then.

This was a good issue, as you can tell Roberts had a bigger hand in it as the writing is snappy and character based rather than exposition for the most part.

I'll leave the details for later, but the fake out "attack" was great as were the threats and potential hints at what we could be seeing soon. Still no idea who will die later on, there sure were alot of baiting panels though.

My vague comments:
Ratchet remains my favourite character in MtMtE
Lots of feels for Chromedome
Art was magnificent
Sideswipe and Streaker meeting back up = awesome art, no words were necessary.
Megatron saying some profound things, him or the ore talking
Shockwaves master plan took a few reads to comprehend.
And Scoop... what a d***.

Paulbot

13th March 2014, 08:22 PM

My store has been delayed too (bad weather in the US) and since is still part of the crossover I'm happy to wait. It does however, from the previews, look like the best chapter so far. Shame it took so long to bring the two casts together. Still feels like there could have been a better prequel in RID to cover some of the events that have drawn this crossover out.

Edit: Well after seeing a few more comments I caved and bought it on comixology. Best issue of the crossover so far. Most like the MTMTE book I love. Helps to have Milne back too. Some nice closure to minor MTMTE subplots, some nice set up of new ones. I was right, I feel like you could skip the first 9 chapters and come straight to this issue from the last pre-DC issue of the book. I'm keen for "season 2" to start.

Lordy

14th March 2014, 09:58 PM

It was a good issue. Not sure it is that case because it is coming towards the end, but it would've nice to finish the Dark Cybertron story in Swerve's bar

GoktimusPrime

22nd March 2014, 06:36 PM

I didn't even get time to go to PZ until today, so I've been blissfully unaware of any shipping delay. :p I like the one-way-street affection between the Constructicons and Prowl. ;) Chromedome flipping out was a surprise. :eek:

And also...

OMG, THEY KILLED WASPINATOR!
THOSE CHILDREN-BORN-TO-UNWED-PARENTS! :p :D </SouthPark>

i_amtrunks

22nd March 2014, 08:06 PM

OMG, THEY KILLED WASPINATOR!
THOSE CHILDREN-BORN-TO-UNWED-PARENTS! :p :D </SouthPark>

I doubt the green guy is so easy to be rid of.

i_amtrunks

27th March 2014, 06:25 PM

So I'm just going to put my thoughts about DC#12 in here.

It was an okay end for an okay crossover. Suffered from a far too slow build up with a rushed conclusion that was very whimpery. It was a 12 issue comic that brought everyone back to Cybertron ready to split into their new teams. Not a soft reset, but close enough.

For such a big world ending threat, the bots and cons get over it quick enough and I wonder if anyone actually died other than Metalhawk, Bumblebee and the Ammonites.

My big question now is; why would anyone follow or elect Starscream leader now? He did nothing the entire event but moan and whinge (nothing new there).

And when did Galvatron catch up on Decepticon history and then begin to align himself with them???

Paulbot

27th March 2014, 06:44 PM

Spoilers for Dark Cybertron finale, Chapter 12

So I'm just going to put my thoughts about DC#12 in here.

It was an okay end for an okay crossover. Suffered from a far too slow build up with a rushed conclusion that was very whimpery. It was a 12 issue comic that brought everyone back to Cybertron ready to split into their new teams. Not a soft reset, but close enough.

For such a big world ending threat, the bots and cons get over it quick enough and I wonder if anyone actually died other than Metalhawk, Bumblebee and the Ammonites.

My big question now is; why would anyone follow or elect Starscream leader now? He did nothing the entire event but moan and whinge (nothing new there).

And when did Galvatron catch up on Decepticon history and then begin to align himself with them???

I wasn't sure where to put them either, but I'll follow your lead.

Whirl's "what a cop out line" made me laugh thinking of your comments in the preview thread. And Lord Zed was spot on about the genocide. I guess he and Starscream think alike ;)

I think the early chapters were too insignificant and the story could have been more compact. The crossover definitely picked up in the last quarter, and having more of the regular art teams back helped too.

Did anyone else die? Probably not. Will anyone stay dead? Probably not. The leaving of Bumblebee's body with that portal gives him a way back.

The defeat of Shockwave makes sense based on the backstory he's been given by Roberts. But this story really, really ends his story. That's it. There's nowhere left to go. Of course there's a good chance he'll be back but this is the best way to finish his tale so I hope he stays buried and just used in flashbacks.

I am willing to see Megatron's change of heart at face value based on this issue too and look forward to him on the Lost Light (and also what the DJD have to think about Megatron abandoning the Decepticons - this might be hinted at in the current solicitations.)

I also like that of all robots to take command of the remaining Decepticons, it's Galvatron. Will be interested to see how that plays out. Notice too that when he appears at the end he's surrounded by a blue jet and a purple jet. I only noticed that on a second read through.

The Starscream stuff, well I guess that's what Windblade's story is to cover and also partly why of the three next chapters that's the one I least care about. I think he's still "elected" leader though so until that changes...? The general NAILs population were pretty conspicuous in their absence in the plot of the later parts of the story.

GoktimusPrime

27th March 2014, 08:39 PM

What a beautifully epic finale for Shockwave. :eek:

There are still a few things in this book that bug me, but pretty much the same stuff that's bugged me since MTMTE & RiD began (i.e. still too "terra centric", not enough transforming)

I really like how Megatron had the big change of heart, and it'll be interesting to see what happens. I honestly hope he does NOT revert to becoming a Decepticon again, but rather earnestly wants to join the Autobots. But then the Autobots would want Megatron to somehow answer for his crimes, and if Megatron has admitted that he was wrong this whole time, he would possibly want to repent and make up for what he's done. Imprisoning Megatron would be boring, but perhaps Megatron could try to "repay his debt" to Cybertronian society by serving a certain role for the Autobots/Cybertron ... as a form of ongoing penance. Maybe he might join the Lost Light and they would resume their quest for the Knights of Cybertron... or maybe Megatron would abandon his fusion cannon and swear an oath of non-violence... etc. I like the idea of Galvatron becoming the new Decepticon leader. :)

i_amtrunks

27th March 2014, 09:53 PM

I am willing to see Megatron's change of heart at face value based on this issue too and look forward to him on the Lost Light (and also what the DJD have to think about Megatron abandoning the Decepticons - this might be hinted at in the current solicitations.)

Surely that is what is in store for season two?

Wonder where Rodders ends up?

Drift-quest anyone?

Paulbot

27th March 2014, 10:17 PM

Surely that is what is in store for season two?

#30's solicit says "the Lost Light becomes the most dangerous place in the universe!" which I think could mean the DJD show up in that issue.

griffin

28th March 2014, 12:55 AM

An interesting concept (an "Autobot" Megatron in the comic, that could prompt Hasbro to release a cheap Autobot redeco toy)... after I posted last August (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=370384#post370384), a query about if it had ever been done before, as either a toy or in fiction....

For some reason, Hasbro & TakaraTomy are able to release evil versions of Optimus toys, and fans are fine with it, but never* a heroic or Autobot version of a Megatron toy, that I can think of. (in the normal universe - not counting the Shattered Glass universe)(*later pointed out there were two, but possibly ONLY two in 30 years - T-Wrecks & Reverse Convoy)

So does this mean that the moral of the story from Hasbro & TakaraTomy, is that naughty/evil/criminal people never redeem themselves and become good... so there is no point in trying to turn over a new leaf and do something good?
Would it really kill them (Hasbro or TakaraTomy) to have a "reformed" Megatron in at least one continuum to make it different/interesting I doubt they would have even known about some small query posted on a small fansite like ours, so I'm not saying that someone there picked up on it... but it is the right timing (8 months) for it to show up in the comic to be a nice coincidence.

MayzaPrime

28th March 2014, 06:19 PM

Jinto

31st March 2014, 03:55 PM

An interesting concept (an "Autobot" Megatron in the comic, that could prompt Hasbro to release a cheap Autobot redeco toy)... after I posted last August (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=370384#post370384), a query about if it had ever been done before, as either a toy or in fiction....

(*later pointed out there were two, but possibly ONLY two in 30 years - T-Wrecks & Reverse Convoy)

I doubt they would have even known about some small query posted on a small fansite like ours, so I'm not saying that someone there picked up on it... but it is the right timing (8 months) for it to show up in the comic to be a nice coincidence.

From the final Dark Cybertron it looks like Galvatron might be taking command of the Decepticons, which could plausibly be a permenant move considering his history in the cartoon. Finding a new place and relevance for Megatron seems like a natural step.

#30's solicit says -----

Wow, the DJD coming after their creator. That I'd like to see.

Sky Shadow

31st March 2014, 04:27 PM

Maybe the up coming Generations Leader Megatron will have a badge swapping feature similar to Generations Dinobot.

Yeah, or TM2 Blackarachnia. It would be pretty amazing to have a major western Megatron toy with an Autobot symbol. But then, considering Leader Jetfire doesn't seem to have that gimmick, and he's the most iconic insignia-swapper in more than one continuity, it could well not happen.

GoktimusPrime

31st March 2014, 09:10 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing a Reformed Megatron toy w/ an Autobot rub sticker, but stick a Decepticon rub sign as a chase variant. There'd be no way to tell which one's the chase figure until the toy's been opened. ;) Kinda harkens back to the old G1 Mini-Spies gimmick. :D

STL

19th May 2014, 08:00 PM

Have started reading this series and it's amazing. Just amazing.

Best. TF. Series. Ever. I hope it keeps it up.

So many characters, so many different motives, personalities and eccentricities, but the plot holds together so well. Up to issue #8 and the like many hoped here, I hope they stick around and join the Lost Light eventually.

So many of the lines of the characters either:
- allude to history (world building)
- build on reputations of existing characters (world building)
- foreshadow future plot points

Ironically, this is the perfect toy commercial. As I warm to each character/group, I try to figure out if I have a good enough CHUG representation of them. I think for most we do but doubt the DJD will get toys anytime soon so I've been thinking which toys could form part of the DJD.

The other thing it did was make me not regret chasing down Black Shadow. The toy all of a sudden has a more important place in my collection now.

As much as I like the DJD, I do have a quibble with how Megatron could've spared them to be "Decepticon Police" if they're such a frightening mob? Better used on the front lines or strategically.

Some of my favourite moments in the 1st 8 issues:
- Ratchet figuring out Pharma's plot and showing why he's -the- chief medical officer
- Magnus teaching Tailgate about the Autobot code
- Swerve opening the bar
- Trailbreaker / Fort Max in the bar scene
- Red Alert giving Rung the evidence of Overlord's presence
- Misfire's introduction of the Decepticon 'Lost Light' crew to Fulcrum
- Rewind / Swerve on rivet duty
- Cyclonus' readers digest version of the war to Tailgate

So much more, I'm not mentioning but this is a hell of a series. Other comic series take years to have that many memorable moments these days with the deconstructed form of storytelling.

Sharky

20th May 2014, 12:59 PM

Have started reading this series and it's amazing. Just amazing.

Best. TF. Series. Ever. I hope it keeps it up.
.

welcome to the adventure!!

Gouki

18th June 2014, 11:06 AM

So, the trades are being rereleased with new covers, along with RiD? or is this just a volume one thing?

Paulbot

18th June 2014, 12:01 PM

Only volume 1 so far

Tiby

2nd July 2014, 11:03 PM

I'm really new to this. I haven't bought a Transformers comic for nearly 20 years. I found myself not knowing what was going on with all these new figures that I was buying who had back stories that made no sense to me.

Then they had a sale on 62 issues of MTMTE and the other one, so I got them to read on my iPad.

The comments above have been good to read, but I find myself a bit stuck on some things. I am up to Issue 5 (I think) of MTMTE and so far I like the story but I'm a bit unsure about the attitude to death of fellow bots. Rodimus keeps saying "Not on my watch" etc, but they keep dying and he doesn't seem to care. I first thought there was a real Star Trek Original Series vibe to the story (Rodimus = Kirk, Ultra Magnus = Spock, Ratchet = McCoy, Drift = Sulu(?)) but Kirk was always hurt by the loss of a crewman.

Then in the plague episode where Drift cuts up the patient who was looking for help - there was just no reaction to the cold-blooded murder of Dent. No shock at the killing, no attempt to justify it as euthanasia, nothing. I don't know if Drift is punished for this later, but I suspect not.

Is this just a normal part of IDW? I'm afraid reading the comics might be a mistake for me, rather than just learning the gloss of the characters from the biographies, etc.

Lordy

3rd July 2014, 05:54 PM

MTMTE has been going for 30 issues so far, including one annual.

Just keep reading it, MTMTE is one of the best Transformers comics ever made, and there is a lot of stuff seeded at the start of this series which starts making sense around issue 17 onwards.

The writer of this series, James Roberts, does spend a few issues just getting the characters, especially unused TF characters, fleshed out at the start, but as I said, you will be rewarded.

Paulbot

3rd July 2014, 06:47 PM

Rodimus is no Kirk. He's pretty bad at his job and this is an ongoing plot point. We see funerals as the series goes on. If there's any concern about death is that it's really hard to kill a TF (and that becomes a plot point too).

As for the Dent scene, that's played as a typical zombie horror type scene, and mostly to show that Drift is a ridiculous sword wielding show off. Ratchet instantly has a go at him for the overreaction. And then the story goes on to show how far Ratchet will go to save life. If Drift doesn't get punished enough well that goes to the pile of evidence that Rodimus is a pretty bad captain.

bassbot

15th July 2014, 12:13 AM