MP12A (Red Alert) & MP13 (Soundwave) announced

[Trent]

:eek:

Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating as well?????? (http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/4481/)

Edit: And they have also lowered the MP-12 AND the MP-12A price to $99.95.

[gdmetro]

:eek:

Do they know something we don't or are they just speculating as well?????? (http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/4481/)

Edit: And they have also lowered the MP-12 AND the MP-12A price to $99.95.

Apparently TFSource broke the news:

MP-12A is Red Alert
MP-13 is Soundwave

Their prices are tentative (but they say accurate from source), but are as follows:

Both Sideswipe and Red Alert cost $99.95
Soundwave is priced at $159.95

And apparently will be available before Dec this year!

Source: (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/603947-big-masterpiece-transformers-news-mp-12a-red-alert-mp-13-soundwave.html)

Since these are the prices for US online retailer, hopefully they will be slightly cheaper from asian online retailers.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Dammit...I cave and get a new Soundwave (or two), and then a month later an MP version gets announced. And I want it.
Lambor looks pretty pricey, might wait on sales for that one.

I still dream of an MP Lugnut though.

[Lint]

I still dream of an MP Lugnut though.

Eveyone does, even if they don't remember when they wake up :p

[canofwhoopass_87]

Never really thought they'd do a MP Soundwave - there just doesn't seem like there's much room to deviate from the G1 toy.

Really hope the $159.95 pricetag means he'll be bigger than MP Sideswipe - but then again it might just be because there's a Laserbeak or Ravage thrown in.

Regardless, it just wouldn't feel right if he was standing shoulder to shoulder with the midget Sideswipe.

Red Alert is no surprise either - but a welcome bit of news nonetheless

[SkyWarp91]

CONSIDER THEM BOUGHT AT THAT PRICE OH YEAH OH YEAH

[griffin]

Imagine if Soundwave is the same size as Sideswipe, but comes packed with 6 (or even 10) Cassettes... now that'd be worth the price.

(Soundwave is simple enough to engineer, so they could spend time and resources on having a BIG compliment of cassettes... if it just has one like the original, I'll be disappointed)

[SkyWarp91]

Imagine if Soundwave is the same size as Sideswipe, but comes packed with 6 (or even 10) Cassettes... now that'd be worth the price.

(Soundwave is simple enough to engineer, so they could spend time and resources on having a BIG compliment of cassettes... if it just has one like the original, I'll be disappointed)

Worse case is that some 3rd party comp will start dishing out cassettes for MP-13

[Shirokaze]

All of this is great news! Reasonable price points, inevitable Red Alert repaint is out of the way straight up, and a confirmation on MP Soundwave! My only hope/wish is that we get a bare minimum of Rumble, Laserbeak and Ravage with him.

[swoop]

Who wants to take bets on whether 13a will be soundblaster:rolleyes:

If they are going to a smaller size with the mp I'm glad that the price is reflecting that. I think that soundwave will still be bigger than sideswipe and the extra cost will get us rumble, ravage and laserbeak. The inevitable soundblaster recolour and hopefully retool should have buzzsaw, frenzy and maybe a new mold ratbat.

Sideswipe and red alert were both short in the original cartoon and I don't mind that the toys look like they are smaller than the new mp prime, that will keep them in scale and as long as the future mp release keep that trend up they wont look out of place.

I'm also going to call it now mp14 will be prowl, 14a will be blustreak and 14b smokescreen

[KalEl]

OH NO my wallet is bleeding once again...

[Decepticon]

Noice!!!! Finally something new for the Decepticons! Will this be exclusive to some foreign country?

[kaiden]

from what i read, the cassettes with be in separate 2 packs.

[swoop]

Have you got a link?

[Hursticon]

Not to slight against TFSource (http://tfsource.com/) (As they provide extremely excellent service & are a great mob) but until I see/hear/read an Official Statement from an Official Body (Like Hasbro or Takara) I will continue to believe that there is no Official MP Soundwave on the horizon.
(As per my tweet earlier today :cool:)

[Robzy]

Well, I sure hope it's Soundwave! It's about time he got the MP treatment!!

I want a new MP Megatron too (same size as MP-10 Prime) with better proportions. Seems like third party companies can do better looking figs, so Tomy/Takara should too!

[Hursticon]

Well, I sure hope it's Soundwave! It's about time he got the MP treatment!!

So too I dude; I just don't want to be disappointed. :o

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Who wants to take bets on whether 13a will be soundblaster:rolleyes:

And 13B will be 'Sonic White' sound wave. Each with different Cassettes...

Me wanty, but still dubious

[1AZRAEL1]

If it really is Soundwave, then I will officially be shocked that HasTak are doing him because I never thought I'd see the day. Just hope he will be a tapedeck :p

[canofwhoopass_87]

from what i read, the cassettes with be in separate 2 packs.

Unless you can link us to something, this looks a lot like a repost of a comment made by a fanboy on another forum



I want a new MP Megatron too (same size as MP-10 Prime) with better proportions. Seems like third party companies can do better looking figs, so Tomy/Takara should too!

Hangin out for a new Megsy as well! Really hope they do a revamped version that's proportionate to MP-10.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

from what i read, the cassettes with be in separate 2 packs.Are you sure that wasn't for Voyager FoC Soundwave?

[kup]

Are you sure that wasn't for Voyager FoC Soundwave?

Maybe that's what they are calling 'Masterpiece' :eek:

[Ultra Mackness]

I'm really very excited by this! I've thought since seeing the silhouette that it was most likely Soundwave given the curved shape on the upper forearms and the different structure of the legs. The pose looks like Sondwave with his left leg slightly forward and right shoulder slightly tilted down and forward (to me at least, but I do wear glasses!). I seem to remember from one of the interviews about the time of release of MP-10 that the entire series from MP-10 onwards was to be re-scaled all in line with each other. Given MP-11 Starscream was in scale with MP-10 and from the G1 cartoon, Soundwave was sized somewhere between Starscream and Optimus, I'm hoping that MP-13 will be similarly scaled. I'm also thinking about the cassettes and whether they'll be split between this release and a potential MP Soundblaster release (3 now 3 later or something like that), and would classics Ravage that came with Hound fit this scale? But the big question for me is will he be able to transform into a lamppost (or whatever it was supposed to be) like he did in the very first episode of G1?

[5FDP]

Trying to keep a lid on it (my excitement levels) until I see actual pics of MP Soundwave. I'm betting that he will come with his minions given the price jump.


Just hope he will be a tapedeck :p

He would have to be otherwise it wouldn't be a 'masterpiece' version of the character.

[kup]

I think that the darken silhouette was actually the Red Alert as it was too close to the Sideswipe mold and not Soundwave. However awesome news that we will be getting an MP Soundwave and that Sideswipe appears to be a lot more affordable than traditional Japanese MPs.

[hanprimus]

Looks like MP12 will costs much less than I thought, RK has it up preorder @USD$78....oh yea~
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP12&lang=us&CatID=1_42

[Lord_Zed]

Looks like MP12 will costs much less than I thought, RK has it up preorder @USD$78....oh yea~
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP12&lang=us&CatID=1_42

How abnormally reasonable.:confused:

[canofwhoopass_87]

How abnormally reasonable.:confused:

Yeh... maybe it's all plastic. Diecast free! :p

[kup]

Yeh... maybe it's all plastic. Diecast free! :p

So was Starscream and Rodimus and MP-10 but that didn't stop them from charging an arm and a leg for them.

A welcomed change indeed but let's wait for the final product to determine how good it is.

[Trent]

So was Starscream and Rodimus and MP-10 but that didn't stop them from charging an arm and a leg for them.

A welcomed change indeed but let's wait for the final product to determine how good it is.

Rodimus had die cast on him. The hinge for canopy/windshield I'm pretty sure. Only a very little bit but die cast non the less.

[kup]

Rodimus had die cast on him. The hinge for canopy/windshield I'm pretty sure. Only a very little bit but die cast non the less.

I have the Japanese version and I don't see any die cast there. Even the engine block appears to be chromed plastic.

[Deonasis]

Rodimus had die cast on him. The hinge for canopy/windshield I'm pretty sure.He does but not on that hinge, it is plastic and was broken on mine.

I have the Japanese version and I don't see any die cast there. Even the engine block appears to be chromed plastic.The feet on Roddy and Starscreams spine are diecast. I think the feet and spine of MP-10 is diecast also. I like diecast when used for its structural properties (weight or strength like Roddy, OP & SS) more than the diecast for its finish and feel. And kup, that sillouette is 100% soundwave, just let yourself see it :cool: :p

[Trent]

He does but not on that hinge, it is plastic and was broken on mine.

On the hasbro release it's die cast. This was the only one at my local TRU that wasn't chipped.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/3c96dfb0.jpg

[Oilspill]

Rodimus has big diecast feet doesn't he?

[fatbot]

Robotkingdom just posted on facebook that the release date for MP-12 may be wrong & are chasing it up to get the correct date.

[Magnus]

I'm glad the prices are down from those initial estimates :)

Re: diecast - I'm not particularly bothered by the lack of diecast metal in masterpiece Transformers, especially since in my experience, figures with diecast parts can suffer from paint flaking and chipping, leaving unsightly grey/silver areas (battle damage?). That said, I agree that it should be used where practical in joints or other areas that carry loads or have stresses placed on them.

[kup]

He does but not on that hinge, it is plastic and was broken on mine.
The feet on Roddy and Starscreams spine are diecast. I think the feet and spine of MP-10 is diecast also. I like diecast when used for its structural properties (weight or strength like Roddy, OP & SS) more than the diecast for its finish and feel. And kup, that sillouette is 100% soundwave, just let yourself see it :cool: :p

That's right, the 'spine' frame from MP3 is die cast but not sure about the new Starscream. I haven't seen one up close yet.


Re: diecast - I'm not particularly bothered by the lack of diecast metal in masterpiece Transformers, especially since in my experience, figures with diecast parts can suffer from paint flaking and chipping, leaving unsightly grey/silver areas (battle damage?). That said, I agree that it should be used where practical in joints or other areas that carry loads or have stresses placed on them.
[/quote]

I totally agree with this.

[Trent]

That's right, the 'spine' frame from MP3 is die cast but not sure about the new Starscream. I haven't seen one up close yet.

I can confirm that there is no die cast in MP-11



I totally agree with this.
As do I

[Deonasis]

Wow, we are thinking total opposites here..

On the hasbro release it's die cast. This was the only one at my local TRU that wasn't chipped.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/3c96dfb0.jpg
When I got home I had a look on my MP-09b but could not find any diecast around the picture you posted (but we are looking at ever so slighty different versions). :confused:

I can confirm that there is no die cast in MP-11
And MP-11 DOES have the same diecast as the MP-03 mould. During transformation you slide the canopy down to form the chest and there is a big diecast frame/rail that it slides on.

[KalEl]

just pre ordered the three new masterpieces :D

[SkyWarp91]

just pre ordered the three new masterpieces :D

i did for sideswipe and soundwave too :)

so i guess MP-13 is really soundwave, AWESOME.

Let's hope someone gets their hands on it and reviews it on youtube before the pre-orders get released so that we could cancel the pre-orders if needed.

[Tober]

And MP-11 DOES have the same diecast as the MP-03 mould. During transformation you slide the canopy down to form the chest and there is a big diecast frame/rail that it slides on.

Mine doesn't seem to have diecast either. :confused: If I raise the chest and squeeze the sides gently I'm sure I can feel it bending in, and when I tap it with a spoon it doesn't make that metal-to-metal 'cling' sound... Not even the chrome hinges on the back are diecast.

[Deonasis]

Mine doesn't seem to have diecast either. :confused: If I raise the chest and squeeze the sides gently I'm sure I can feel it bending in, and when I tap it with a spoon it doesn't make that metal-to-metal 'cling' sound... Not even the chrome hinges on the back are diecast.
Hmmmm.. will do the spoon test here.

Also, hopefully in the next few weeks i can preorder the new MP's as well but it makes it a very long wait to get them :(

EDIT: I tapped "diecast" and plastic parts MP11 parts with a spoon and could not really hear a difference. I looked closely at MP03g and MP11 and could not really see a difference. Then i scrapped the black "diecast" spine of MP11 with the spoon and saw the shiny silver of metal below. Maybe it is a different metal compound (I did not want to try and flex it) but I would still call mine diecast. If some MP11's have metal spines and others not then this is a running change during production. Interesting..

[5FDP]

Tempted to pre-order MP-13 however am waiting closer to release for a possible price reduction (as we saw with MP-12). I'm not convinced in RK's ability to issue refunds given their poor after-sales communication history.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Tempted to pre-order MP-13 however am waiting closer to release for a possible price reduction (as we saw with MP-12). I'm not convinced in RK's ability to issue refunds given their poor after-sales communication history.

Yeh there's no point pre ordering so early. It won't be released for quite some time. The price might change and paying now would simply mean that you'd lose your paypal buyer protection after 45days.

[SkyWarp91]

Well BBTS charge for pre-orders AFTER they arrive in stock, which means I don't have to worry about losing money.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Well BBTS charge for pre-orders AFTER they arrive in stock, which means I don't have to worry about losing money.

Yeh that's because BBTS is awesome. Can't go wrong with the folks at BBTS

[Trent]

And MP-11 DOES have the same diecast as the MP-03 mould. During transformation you slide the canopy down to form the chest and there is a big diecast frame/rail that it slides on.

I stand corrected. I just had a look the paint has rubbed off a bit from sliding during transformation and yes, it is shiny. So apologies.

[Hursticon]

I stand corrected. I just had a look the paint has rubbed off a bit from sliding during transformation and yes, it is shiny. So apologies.

I'm still yet to even open mine... :o:p

[UltraMarginal]

According to Seibertoron (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/mp12-sideswipe-to-be-officially-licensed-lamborghini-toy/25006/)

this will be officially licensed, the first time lamborghini has officially licensed a Transformer since G1:cool:

[5FDP]

According to Seibertoron (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/mp12-sideswipe-to-be-officially-licensed-lamborghini-toy/25006/)

this will be officially licensed, the first time lamborghini has officially licensed a Transformer since G1:cool:

Now we just need Volkswagen to get back on board. Surely they would be kicking themselves after the whole 'Bumblebee is a Camaro' live-action movie series. That was the biggest missed opportunity since Tom Selleck was cast as Indiana Jones (for Tom Selleck that is :p).

[Decepticon]

I preordered a Soundwave from BBTS also. Sideswipe and Red Alert dont interest me for some reason...dunno why:confused:

[fatbot]

Robotkingdom has stated on facebook that Lambor will be released 27\10\2012

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP12&lang=us&CatID=41_273

[Lordy]

Robotkingdom has stated on facebook that Lambor will be released 27\10\2012

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=TFTRMP12&lang=us&CatID=41_273
Just preordered from there. Can't wait.

Interesting Lamborghini have allowed the Contauch to be used, considering they are technically a part of the Volkswagen Group (although more under control of Audi than VW themselves). I would like to see more Lambo TF products if they are going to be more open to it.

[gamblor916]

From TFW2005.


- Vehicle mode will be painted. Paintwork overseen by Lamborghini.
- Fits in MP-10 Convoy trailer
- Accessories: Piledrivers, flare gun, missile launcher

This isn't good news. I didn't think a 1:24 Alternator/Binaltech could fit in the MP10 trailer. So it'll be significantly smaller but a hefty 6800 yen.

[Tober]

From TFW2005.



This isn't good news. I didn't think a 1:24 Alternator/Binaltech could fit in the MP10 trailer. So it'll be significantly smaller but a hefty 6800 yen.

MP-10 is scaled more with Alternity/Classics. The Spike figure as well.

I just tried getting Alternator Meister RX-8 in MP-10's trailer and it does fit, with less than a millimeter to spare in length and width...

[5FDP]

The fact that they're calling a toy that fits into the back of MP-10's trailer a 'masterpiece'... that just doesn't sit right.

Who am I kidding; I'll probably end up getting him anyway :p

[KalEl]

i did for sideswipe and soundwave too :)

so i guess MP-13 is really soundwave, AWESOME.

Let's hope someone gets their hands on it and reviews it on youtube before the pre-orders get released so that we could cancel the pre-orders if needed.

i wont be cancelling

[Lint]

MP-10 is scaled more with Alternity/Classics. The Spike figure as well.

I just tried getting Alternator Meister RX-8 in MP-10's trailer and it does fit, with less than a millimeter to spare in length and width...

Wow really? And here I thought fitting it into MP-4's trailer was a tight enough fit already. :eek:

[Deonasis]

The fact that they're calling a toy that fits into the back of MP-10's trailer a 'masterpiece'... that just doesn't sit right.

Who am I kidding; I'll probably end up getting him anyway :p
Yeah, but a MP Sideswipe that fits on a MP Ultra Magnus trailer DOES sound cool :cool:

[canofwhoopass_87]

Would be funny if Soundwave didn't turn out to be a cassette tape. All the pre orders are under the assumption that he is :D

[ITZTRU]

I don't get why some people are still under the impression that the "Masterpiece" subline can still represent anything that is outside of the way the G1 characters appeared in the cartoon or their toy representations (except for the movie line which had an "M" somewhere in the title code or something to that extent to donate as such). I still read on numerous forums that Sideswipe could be retooled or colored to look like another character such as Breakdown just because he was a Lamborghini also. Or that Soundwave should turn into something more modern like a mobile phone and that R&F should turn into simcards (ok so I made that part up and didn't actually read it anywhere) but u get my point. If they create a masterpiece toy based on a G1 character, it's going to be a more detailed, articulated, accessorized version of their former toy with a more complex transformation. That's it.

[ITZTRU]

Oh, and that wasn't entirely directed at you CoW87. Was just sayin. No offence :)

[Lint]

Would be funny if Soundwave didn't turn out to be a cassette tape. All the pre orders are under the assumption that he is :D

It would be hilarious if Soundwave literally turned out to be a cassette tape. :p

[Hursticon]

Would be funny if Soundwave didn't turn out to be a cassette tape. All the pre orders are under the assumption that he is :D


It would be hilarious if Soundwave literally turned out to be a cassette tape. :p

Hence why this little black duck is erring on the side of caution, I don't have a pre-order yet but that's not because of fear of Alt mode; More so of actual existence. ;):cool:

[KalEl]

Hence why this little black duck is erring on the side of caution, I don't have a pre-order yet but that's not because of fear of Alt mode; More so of actual existence. ;):cool:

this little black duck is getting them anyways lol