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GoktimusPrime
10th June 2012, 05:35 PM
Pick your ten most hated or least favourite toys in your collection! :D (and tell us why) :)

1. Rachel/Lion
Now I could easily populate my most hated list with Animorphs, but that wouldn't make the list terribly diverse and interesting, so I'll just keep it to one Animorph on this list. If I had to pick my most hated Animorph toy it would have to be Rachel/Lion, because this toy sucks even by Animorphs standards... and that's bad! The human head is entirely covered by the lion's mane -- that's right, I said lion and not lioness. Rachel transforms from a human girl into a male lion! :eek: So she looks like a really bad Aslan cosplayer. Then the beast eyes do NOT stay retracted -- they're constantly down and covering her human face... the upper part. There's no lower part, so in lion mode the lion's face has a human girl's mouth/jaw.
Why do I have this toy?! Someone gave it to me for free. :rolleyes:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_rachel.jpg
Show-likeness FYL

2. G1 Wheelie
Of all the G1 Autobot mini-cars, this would have to be the worst. Seriously... Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Huffer, Powerglide, Beachcomber, Seaspray, Outback, Swerve, Cosmos... then Wheelie... it's like a sudden drop in standards to the world of suck. Every other minibot has a clearly identifiable alt mode, even Cosmos who's a freaking Adamski UFO, which by semantic definition is unidentified! (:p). Yet Wheelie transforms into... um... some kind of sled with wheels?? Then there's the robot mode. The top heaviness and spindly legs doesn't help it to be the most balanced of the Mini-Bots... plus the legs get loose and floppy over time, making it virtually useless for support. The hands are an epic fail. When I first got this toy in 1986, I didn't even notice that this toy had hands. It was only a few months later that I was playing with it and saw them and thought, (excited) "Oh!" (deflated) "Oh..." And then afterwards I saw Transformers The Movie and G1 Season 3 -- suddenly this disappointing toy became attached to a highly annoying character in the cartoon. :rolleyes: Let's face it... if this toy didn't have a prominent appearance in canon, not many people would want it. It's a shame that such a crappy toy like this got so much screen time in the show, yet an awesome toy like HUBCAP never saw the light of day! :(
Why do I have this toy?! It was cheap, I think $1.99, and that was back when we still had 1 and 2c coins, so I would've gotten my 1c back.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_wheelie.jpg
"Rhyming like a little git, Wheelie's toy is a piece of ----"

3. Mainframe
Okay, Action Masters just plain suck. Again, like with the Animorphs, I'm just gonna pick on one rather than flooding the list with all of them. :p But my least favourite would be Mainframe -- simply because when I was a kid, I could not tell what the freak he was meant to transform into. Even though Action Masters couldn't transform, looking at their faux-kibble and imagining what they might have transformed into was possibly the only quasi-enjoyable thing about them... or more accurately, something that made them a little less painful to accept as Transformers. Treadshot's a great example of this - his body has kibble from a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum hand gun! (it'd be so kewl if TakTOM retconned a G1/Classicsverse Treadbolt that could transform into a scale replica Magnum! </pipedream> :D) -- but Mainframe has virtually nothing that tells you what he might have transformed into. Even TFwiki describes it as "an indeterminate alternate mode" - but it's generally accepted as being a mainframe computer. In red and blue. :rolleyes:
Why do I have this toy?! Got it for free.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_mainframe.jpg

4. Cindersaur
All the Firecons are crap, but again, let's just pick on one, and Cindersaur's my least favourite. The engineering is incredibly unimpressive, with the transforming essentially being "turn around and unfold some stuff!". It's much like all those monsters/demons in Monkey, where they look human, then turn around and change into the Dog Demon or whatever demon of the week that Monkey, Pigsy & Sandy happen to be fighting.
<bad.Asian.accent> "So Monkey, you think I'm just a short pahple and yerrow KO of Godzirra, but I am rearry..." <turns around w/ spooky music> "The Decepticon Cindahsaur!" </bad.accent>
It's funny in Monkey... crap on a Transformer toy. Cindersaur has the worst colour scheme of the Firecons, and the lack of wings makes it feel of even less value than Flamefeather and Sparkstalker. The Firecons and Sparkabots are basically small Transformers built around the friction motor w/ flint sparking gimmick which severely compromises their engineering, and the Firecons copped it worse than the Sparkabots (at least the Sparkabots have defined/identifiable vehicle modes and can lift their arms up and down, they're also more individually unique compared to the Firecons who are just too similar to each other). Thankfully toy safety standards today means that these toys will never be reissued (after a sparking gimmick in a Barbie doll set a girl's undies on fire! (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=861&dat=19940717&id=7JJaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=z0oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6889,3682382)). :D Or if they did, the gimmick would be muted (which would make the entire concept of reissuing them pointless :p). Oh, that and a lack of demand. ;)
Why do I have this toy?! To complete the set of Firecons. I got Flamefeather and Sparkstalker when I was a kid which didn't inspire me to get Cindersaur. A friend of mine had it, I saw it and thought, "Nah." I later picked this toy up for maybe ten bucks loose just to complete the set.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_cindersaur.jpg
At least the demons in Monkey spun 360° to transform - that makes them twice as cool as the Firecons!

5. Injector
F'ugly. The Fuzor concept was always a bit odd, but sometimes it was well executed (e.g. Silverbolt, Quickstrike, Buzzclaw), most other Fuzors were alright... but in this case, it just plain did NOT work. Other Fuzors have beast modes that are like a 'smooth' fusion or blend between two animals. I think dirge describes the beast mode well in his review (http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/injector.php) -- it looks like an angler fish with a hornet shoved up its bottom. The robot mode is incredibly crap - with the robot head basically being the fish component regurgitating the robot head out of its maw. If the intention of the design was to completely gross the crap out of me, then great success. The big head and ungainly body proportions makes this toy tricky to balance too. Little wonder this hunk of crap pegwarmed so badly.
Why do I have this toy?! That's a damn good question. For over a year I saw this toy peg-warming and I kept laughing at it and walking past. But it was like staring at me and taunting me going, "Go on... you know you wanna buy me! DO IT!" - I eventually caved and grabbed it on sale. :rolleyes: It was during a lull between waves when there wasn't much else to buy.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_injector.jpg
"Ouch."

6. Supreme Cheetor
Supreme rip-off. Okay, Transmetal II Cheetor stands as one of the worst engineered Cheetor toys, but it didn't retail for a hundred bucks! The sculpt is more show-like than Mega Cheetor, and while the later Night Slash Cheetor also had a fairly show-like sculpt at a Deluxe price point, it didn't have show colours. So this toy offers the most show like sculpt with colours... but even then, totally still not worth paying RRP. There's NO reason why this toy couldn't have been a Deluxe. Maybe some parts would be simplified and they'd have to remove the LED gimmick -- I can live with that for a Deluxe price point. There's nothing about this toy that makes it worth paying a hundred for. Even the size... it's big mode because it's got long spindly legs. Otherwise, it's fairly light wait. It certainly lacks the BULK of other big hitters like G1 Metroplex or Scorponok. :rolleyes: The tail weapon is also failtastic... Night Slash Cheetor's swords are more show-like and work better. The size also makes it massively out of scale with other BM toys (other than maybe Nightscream, another very crap BM figure).
Why do I have this toy?! Because I made a stupid decision and paid $100 for this over-sized hunk of crap even though I already had Mega Cheetor. <facepalms.self>
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_supremecheetor.jpg
Supreme Fail

7. Armada Scavenger
Armada is notorious for many of its gimmick over-laden toys that have compromised engineering, but Scavenger takes the cake. Ridiculously blocky body with that stupid rolling gimmick instead of legs. Those shin pads pretending to be legs are about as lame as G1 Wheelie's faux-hands. The only redeeming feature of this toy is the neat little Mini-Con, Rollbar. Unfortunately this Mini-Con mould has never been sold separately. :( His groin-located Mini-Con port is kinda awkward but... :rolleyes:
Why do I have this toy?! To complete my set of Energon figures. The real stupid thing that I did was that I bought the repaint, Treadbolt (as well as other Energon repaints), which I gave to my girlfriend at the time. :o
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_scavengerarmada.jpg

8. Energon Ironhide
Much like Armada, Energon's also notorious for giving us a lot of forgettable toys... but Ironhide stands out among the crap as one of the crappiest. The Powerlinx gimmick in Energon was never terribly well executed -- 1989's MultiForce gimmick was relatively better executed. But even among these sucky Energon Powerlinx figures, Ironhide is particularly suckful because of that stupid HEAD that isn't even remotely concealed in alt mode!! :eek: Booooooo...
Why do I have this toy?! Same reason as for why I got Scavenger. Although thankfully I didn't buy the repaint!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_ironhideenergon.jpg
You know your disguise sucks when even Prince Adam and Clark Kent are laughing at you.

9. ROTF Leader Class Megatron
It's hard to choose which one sucks more, Movie Leader Class Megatron or ROTF Leader Class Megatron. Both are spectacularly CRAP toys, but I'm going with ROTF Leader Class Megatron because IMHO TF1 Leader Megatron is a fair execution of a bad design (from Dreamworks/Paramount), whereas ROTF Leader Megatron is a poor execution of a bad idea.
Why do I have this toy?! Because I wanted the character. I didn't know at the time that I bought it that Hasbro would release a Voyager version later -- if I'd known I probably would've held off from the leader and gotten the Voyager instead, even if it is a massive shellformer. Can't possibly be worst than this toy. The Voyager actually has the flight mode, right? Cos the Leader doesn't.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_megatronrotf.jpg
Lost in translation?

10. ROTF Combiner Class Devastator
Simplistic sculpt/designs and unimpressive colours and paint apps. Engineering is also incredibly basic for its size and price and of course, none of the components have robot modes. The Nom! Nom! gimmick was fun for a little while, then it got stale fast. You know that a big and expensive set of toys suck when it's outclassed by its Legends Class equivalent! :cool: Much like Supreme Cheetor, this toy is just big for the sake of being big, but lacks anything substantial to really justify its size and price. At least they did reduce the price of this toy from it's original RRP (which they never did with Supreme Cheetor! I never saw that toy sell for below $100! :eek: (little wonder it continued to shelfwarm for years)) - but even at a discounted price, I still feel massively ripped off by this toy.
Why do I have this toy?! I fell for the Nom! Nom! gimmick, plus I wanted a ROTF Devvie in a big imposing size. But I waited until it was at least on sale, but even then it still wasn't worth it.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/worst%2010/worst10_devastatorrotf.jpg

Tetsuwan Convoy
10th June 2012, 06:02 PM
About 4 years after Machine wars was finished, my local TRU had Supreme Cheetor down to $25. Yup. It took them that long.

It was still there for ages :p

KalEl
10th June 2012, 06:12 PM
10? Ahh this is gonna be hard... Give me a bit lol

liegeprime
11th June 2012, 02:15 AM
So is this list limited to figures one personally owns? just like the top 3 list? Just to clarify before I post...


But I do have disagree with you Gok on Injector... I dunno something about him makes me really enjoy having bought that abomination :D

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/Random%20Photo%20shoots/DSC01474.jpg
He does show much potential for other things other than being a transformer, prolly why I love the ugly thing hehehehe

Decepticon
11th June 2012, 09:52 AM
Just 10?? Man, theres so many heeedious TF toys around! Well, i will choose any G1 toy. Except Optimus, Soundwave, jet fire, Starscream, thrust, thunder cracker, skywarp, devastator and possibly others that don't come to mind.

Oh, and anything beast wars!

Bartrim
11th June 2012, 10:03 AM
I haven't seen every Transformer there is so it's kinda hard to judge but I'll have to look at what toys I've owned/seen and make a list. I do have a few figures in mind already though.

GoktimusPrime
11th June 2012, 11:09 AM
So is this list limited to figures one personally owns? just like the top 3 list? Just to clarify before I post...
Yes. Same as the Top 3 list only working from the bottom and it's 10 instead of 3. :)


But I do have disagree with you Gok on Injector... I dunno something about him makes me really enjoy having bought that abomination :D
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/Random%20Photo%20shoots/th_DSC01474.jpg
He does show much potential for other things other than being a transformer, prolly why I love the ugly thing hehehehe
You pretty much just explained it there. Fundamentally speaking it's not a flawed toy, but it's a poor execution of a Transformers action figure.


Just 10?? Man, theres so many heeedious TF toys around!
Yes, just 10. :) I was initially gonna call this thread "Bottom 3," cos I wanted it to be like the Top 3 thread but in reverse... but I found it too hard to narrow it down to just three so I expanded it to 10!

I know it's hard, but that's the challenge! There are lots of other toys that I would have loved to include on my list (like the rest of my Animorphs collection) -- but for the sake of diversity/interest I tried to select 10 different figures from my collection. :)


Well, i will choose any G1 toy. Except Optimus, Soundwave, jet fire, Starscream, thrust, thunder cracker, skywarp, devastator and possibly others that don't come to mind.
Oh, and anything beast wars!
Please select 10 individual figures and tell us why you dislike each figure. It doesn't need to be a lengthy description; but something that tells us why each individual figure in your list makes them your least liked amongst your collection! :) And please make the description focus on that individual figure rather than just because you dislike that particular line or series. e.g. I really dislike all my Animorphs toys, but I forced myself to choose just one to add to my Bottom 10 List (i.e. which I consider the worst of that lot).

If you really are having trouble narrowing it down to just 10, then do what I did with my Top 3 (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=297522&postcount=54) -- to go random.org and get it to randomly pick 10 toys for you out of your collection. ;) Or just go eenie meenie miney mo... :D


I haven't seen every Transformer there is so it's kinda hard to judge but I'll have to look at what toys I've owned/seen and make a list. I do have a few figures in mind already though.
Yup, that's the idea of this thread. :) Please only stick to figures that are in your own collection. :D I'd like to include Staxx as one of the worst Transformers ever made, but I don't own him... or any of the G2 Power Masters (the only one I regret passing up is Ironhide, but only because he's Ironhide - the toy is still rubbish (which is why I passed it even though it peg warmed for years :p)).

Trent
11th June 2012, 11:26 AM
I don't think I can compete in this one. I don't own any Transformers I don't like. And besides, I barely have any, so 10 would probably = about 20% of my collection :) (Although Gok, I did at one point have armada scavenger. I really liked his alt mode, but yeah it sucked how he didn't have legs.)

Decepticon
11th June 2012, 12:12 PM
I don't think I can compete in this one. I don't own any Transformers I don't like.

Thats what I was thinking. I wouldnt own them if I didnt like them.:confused:

GoktimusPrime
11th June 2012, 12:44 PM
It's hated or "least favourite" -- if you can select 10 toys in your collection that you perhaps like the least. ;)


Thats what I was thinking. I wouldnt own them if I didnt like them.:confused:
Heh... perhaps as an added optional challenge, we can also include "Why the hell do I have this toy?" for each figure. :D

<goes.back.to.edit.post#1> :cool:

5FDP
12th June 2012, 09:18 AM
This is like voting for your least favorite child. I can't do it! What if all the others are listening...

sideswipes brother
15th June 2012, 04:42 PM
Injector is awesome!!! I love him cause hes so hideously mutilated.
There is only one TF in my collection i dislike and that is Transmetal 2 Cheetor. Even in beast mode this thing is amazingly crap!! I have him for completeness sakes.

SkyWarp91
15th June 2012, 05:09 PM
1. Bumblebee Movie Repaint
2. 2nd Bumblebee Movie Repaint
3. 3rd Bumblebee Movie Repaint
...
10. 10th Bumblebee Movie Repaint

:)

10 is a lot though, so here's what is on the top of my head.. (no order of which is worse than the other)


10. ROTF Supreme Class Devastator
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/f/fe/ROTF_Devastator_combiner_toy.jpg
9. DOTM Voyager Optimus Prime
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/e/e4/DOTM_Voyager_OptimusPrime_toy.jpg
8. Movie Deluxe Payload - hated his head
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/0/07/Movie-Payload-Toy.jpg
7. Movie Deluxe Dreadwing
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/4/4e/Dreadwingmovietoy.jpg
6. Animated Supreme Optimus Prime
http://www.thetoyshop.com/media/toyshop/products/Hasbro/Transformers/Zoom/342568.jpg
5. Armada Hot Shot
http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/12/r_hotshot034.jpg
4. DOTM Human Alliance Leadfoot
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/c/c4/HA_Leadfoot.jpg
3. Masterpiece Megatron (doesn't even look that good as a display piece, I know he's not meant to be transformed that much but even the bobble head looks so much better)
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/8/8b/MP05_megatron.jpg
2. Universe Deluxe Galvatron Tank
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/8/82/Galvatronuniversetoy.jpg
1. Universe Deluxe Floptimus Prime
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/8/80/ClassicsPrime_Vs.jpg

Slag
15th June 2012, 05:40 PM
^^ i see what you mean.. I thought mp-5 was o.k ish but after seeing those pics (someone should do a Kyle from South Park repaint) that's one MP that is dying for an update.. And leadfoot^?? what with that?

I don't really like g1 runabout and runamuck , or the thottlebots so thats 8.
i can even handle top spin and twin twist.
the vans Rachet and Ironhide... with the 3rd party heads = love em.. without (and an oddball sticker for a face).. not so much:(
actually, that new one with a weird old man skeleton face, is it a version of wheeljack or something??
and i didn't like Dinobot.. Not to be confused with The Dinobots, which are the best..

KalEl
15th June 2012, 07:02 PM
Fair picks skywarp

Kapryiath
15th June 2012, 08:55 PM
my least favorite 10 ( unfortunately its about 1/10th of my collection :P )

10: universe blaster - bought it because i really liked blaster but didn't have a g1 version

9: universe sea spray - loved sea spray and thought the mold looked good at the time but the more i look at it , the less sea spray like it becomes

8: universe cheator - bought it because it looked cool in its blister and i liked cheator from beast wars!

7: PCC bruticus - bought because i love gestalts but it turns out PCC's are pretty garbage!

6: PCC superion - ^

5: energon hotshot - out of the powerlinx figures i own has to be my least favorite ( i actually like the other 3! )

4:armada cyclonus - cant remember why i bought it , but its a garbage toy !

3: armada blurr - cant remember why i got it but the hands are really annoying and the guns are far to big

2: movie1 barricade - think i bought it the same time as bumblebee really doesnt do anything for me

1: one of the movie bumblebee's.. couldnt tell you which one its terrible and possibly the only transformer i own i'd consider throwing out it hides away on my bottom shelf and i'll probably put it in hiding when i get new shelves

GoktimusPrime
15th June 2012, 11:04 PM
I like the carded movie Bumblebee toys - I don't find any of them to be bad. The boxed ones I find to be poor value for money -- better if cheaper. The problem I have with movie Bumblebee isn't so much that they're bad toys; some of them are actually (I quite like the Deluxe Bumblebees from TF1) quite good... it's just that there's too damn many of them! :( :( But that doesn't necessarily make them bad toys per se.

SkyWarp91
15th June 2012, 11:26 PM
I like the carded movie Bumblebee toys - I don't find any of them to be bad. The boxed ones I find to be poor value for money -- better if cheaper. The problem I have with movie Bumblebee isn't so much that they're bad toys; some of them are actually (I quite like the Deluxe Bumblebees from TF1) quite good... it's just that there's too damn many of them! :( :( But that doesn't necessarily make them bad toys per se.

Oh I like the originals. Just the countless repaints that I hate. Just because they're repaints and it's because that they're repaints that's why we have less of the toys that we want per case

KalEl
15th June 2012, 11:38 PM
Oh I like the originals. Just the countless repaints that I hate. Just because they're repaints and it's because that they're repaints that's why we have less of the toys that we want per case

Very valid reason IMHO

kurdt_the_goat
16th June 2012, 01:27 AM
This is just a list based on toys i own or have owned at one point or another:

Alternators Nemesis Prime - Bonnet would never close properly and literal brick legs. I enjoyed the engine block/gun more than the main toy!

One of the Deluxe ROTF Bikes. Not even sure which one i have, blessed Mum got it for me for Christmas so i can't bring myself to get rid of it, but the robot is an abomination. At least i can leave it in bike mode!

07 Movie Deluxe Final Battle Jazz. Hated those arms! It's not that bad really, but was made to look a lot worse toys by being released near BB'08.

Superlink Deluxe Grand "Fattimus" Convoy. I'm semi-partial to Fattimus' robot mode (at least with delicious chrome) so he stays in my collection, but his truck mode is puke-worthy.

ROTF Deluxe Jolt. A decent enough alt mode but a poorly thought out robot and i hate his feet design.

Animated Blitzwing. Another that stays in Robot mode, considering he has almost no parts that actually connect and stay in any of his other modes.

Universe Ultra Powerglide. Nice headsculpt, not so much anything else.

07 Movie Deluxe Brawl. The one with the never-pegs-in shoulders.

Animated Cybertron Mode Voyager Megatron. At least it's the only time i've succumbed to one of Megatron's blob alt modes!

Galaxy Force Inch Up. Like a surfboard on monster truck wheels!

Tetsuwan Convoy
16th June 2012, 02:10 AM
Hmm, Lessee now.

Not in any particular order as to how bad, but the ones at the bottom of the least I like the least.

Henkei Powerglide. Too big, stupid noises and man boobs. Glad I didn't get the wrong colour Hasbro version.

Universe Depth CHarge. I like the toy, I don't mind the colours. The fcat tha he falls apart all the damn time makes me RAAAGE!

Leo Prime. After not getting one since Cybertron for my Optimus, I finally pay $25. Take him hime, nice head, crap robot AND animal modes. Hoping the combined form with Op is awesome.
Nope, that sucks too. 3 times the failure.

Movie Deluxe Brawl. Nice tank, nice robot. Why the two never actually stay together annoys me greatly.

Movie 1 Megatron. WhAT THE HELL IS THIS??

Star Wars Xover, General Grevious. Never stayed together. Was poop anyway. Took him apart for screws. (and to a lesser extent Darth Advanced Tie fighter too)

Ok, these are the bottom of the lot.

Henkei Galvatron. Why did Galvatron succumb to this craptacular robot mode. He doesn't even stand very well.

MP3 Greenscream.. Nice robot, nice jet. Nice form-changing robot. Not a Transformer, looks nothing like Starscream coz he Green! And has stuff hanging off him. Stay away from my Tfs, Gundam man!!

PCC Smoulder (and Pcc in general). Barf man, just Barf...

Definitley my #1 most hated Tf (and there's two of them)

Energon Grimlock and Swoop (and by default, Mega Dinobot as well ).
Oh
my
god.
What a couple of horrible toys. You'd think that copying G1 Grimlock's look and Transformation would make a nice toy. Apparently not. Out of proportion body parts, floppy and robot mode is smaller than Swoop. Oh man.
Swoop, um, yeh. Big legs for an agile flying guy. Simple transformation and his groin splits in half for no reason. His arms don't peg into his shoulders at all, despite them looking like they should and he TOWERS over Grimlock. oH it would appear he isn't a Pteranodon anymore, he has digressed into the smaller pteradactyl. Yet he still is bigger than Grimlock. Whaa?

Of course, nothing could beat them!

Oh yes, it could actually, put the two of them together and you get. Umm, I don't know. 2 Crappy robots on top of each other? Honestly, Mega Dinobot looks like it was designed by a four year old. With Barbies. That had been melted in a fire.
Whoever designed these toys should have been sacked/shot at the blueprint stage.

In fact, I hate it so much, I can't get rid of it. It's just so hideous, I must have it in my collection.:D

Sky Shadow
16th June 2012, 02:50 AM
I try not to buy toys that look crap, and if I buy something that turns out to be crap, I sell it so it's no longer in my collection. The ten most hated Transformers toys that I have owned at some time are as follows:

G1 Jazz.

I never wanted this toy. I ordered Prowl, but this turned up. The gun thingy that's supposed to plug into the back is the nadir of G1 Transformerdom.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3769/images1iq.jpg

Beast Wars Depth Charge.

Seriously, it was like... a decade since G1 and I paid fifty bucks for this brick. With a sword you have to unwedge? And floppy rubber knee things? Buyer: utterly remorseful.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/580/beastmodey.jpg

Beast Wars TM2 Cybershark.

One of the greatest Transformers characters ever (Sky-Byte) was a recolour of one of the line's worst moulds.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8123/bwtm2cybersharkguns.jpg

Beast Machines Nightscream.

An utter piece of $#!* that should have been downscaled at least two price points. Not even worth selling - I gave him away to my then-girlfriend's boss's son.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6835/attackmode.jpg

Beast Machines Beast Riders Che.

I'm sick of people whining that Action Masters didn't transform. Every Action Master item on the shelves included some sort of Transforming gimmick. Do you know what didn't?

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1336/largeimageh.jpg

Binaltech Grimlock.

Even worse than not being Transformable is being no fun at all to transform without simultaneously pulling out all your hair. Once this thing was in robot mode, it stayed in robot mode.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/664/65802400.jpg

Energon Mega-Dinobot.

This and The Beast is exactly why I want to punch people in the face whenever they suggest the Dinobots should combine. And Swoop was taller than Grimlock.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7489/robotmode.jpg

Energon Storm Jet.

Hollow, light and weaponless with arms that didn't lock in, this was not worth Deluxe prices. It's barely worth a dollar.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6075/energonstormjethasbro.jpg

Energon Prowl.

He looks like My First Transformer and possesses the inherently pointless Powerlinxing compromise of Autobot Energon toys. (This was later redeemed in S.W.A.T. Prowl, who was aesthetically designed to combine with Checkpoint.)

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1671/energonprowltoy.jpg

Animated Blitzwing.

Designed so the plastic couldn't survive being transformed into tank mode, and then built even more incorrectly in the factory.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/593/109uh.jpg

Dishonourable mention:

Beast Wars TM Cheetor.

Cartoons lied to me. This cheetah has a massive hole in his chest when his wings pop out. I hate this actual toy, but the changes to make it Ravage/TM Tigatron saved the mould. And the horseman of the Unicropalypse version was at least in decent colours with a Mini-Con.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7039/beastmode2.jpg

GoktimusPrime
16th June 2012, 09:44 AM
Oh I like the originals. Just the countless repaints that I hate. Just because they're repaints and it's because that they're repaints that's why we have less of the toys that we want per case
And yet you still have these repaints in your collection :confused: (remember that these lists are meant to comprise of toys only from your own collection :))

I agree that the over-saturation of Bumblebees has spoiled the franchise and prevented other toys from seeing the light of day (e.g. DotM DLX Leadfoot, Soundwave & Quejack etc.), but I don't think that alone necessarily makes them terrible toys per se. I saw that HA Bumblebee w/ Backfire at Target yesterday... an utterly pointless and random looking repaint that does nothing for me. But it doesn't look like a flawed toy to me.


This is just a list based on toys i own or have owned at one point or another:
Yeah, that's fine. :) All Bottom 10 lists should be from people's own individual collections. :D




MP3 Greenscream.. Nice robot, nice jet. Nice form-changing robot. Not a Transformer, looks nothing like Starscream coz he Green!
crankcase76 made an epic comment about this toy when he came over to my place a few weeks ago; seeing MP03 on my MP shelf, he - completely innocently (as someone who's relatively new to TF collecting) - assumed that it was MP Acid Storm! :D :D That says it all, doesn't it? If you didn't know that this was meant to be Starscream, you'd guess otherwise! When I told him it was Starscream, he was shocked and apologised for the confusion, but I told him it was okay -- a perfectly understandable assumption to make considering that he's a GREEN Seeker! :)



Stay away from my Tfs, Gundam man!!
Macross man. ;) MP Starscream is just a craphouse toy that seems designed more to be a transformable model/display piece than something you can actually play with. I know the same comment might be said about all Masterpieces, but Starscream takes the powder -- the frailty of the design, lack of balance and poor quality plastic used on MP03 really makes it difficult to play with this toy. Subsequent uses of the mould have used better plastics, but the inherent design makes them difficult as play toys. :(


Energon Grimlock and Swoop (and by default, Mega Dinobot as well ).
Oh
my
god.
What a couple of horrible toys. You'd think that copying G1 Grimlock's look and Transformation would make a nice toy. Apparently not. Out of proportion body parts, floppy and robot mode is smaller than Swoop. Oh man.
Swoop, um, yeh. Big legs for an agile flying guy. Simple transformation and his groin splits in half for no reason. His arms don't peg into his shoulders at all, despite them looking like they should and he TOWERS over Grimlock. oH it would appear he isn't a Pteranodon anymore, he has digressed into the smaller pteradactyl. Yet he still is bigger than Grimlock. Whaa?

Of course, nothing could beat them!

Oh yes, it could actually, put the two of them together and you get. Umm, I don't know. 2 Crappy robots on top of each other? Honestly, Mega Dinobot looks like it was designed by a four year old. With Barbies. That had been melted in a fire.
Whoever designed these toys should have been sacked/shot at the blueprint stage.

In fact, I hate it so much, I can't get rid of it. It's just so hideous, I must have it in my collection.:D
^agree. :)

To make matters worse, their hands aren't even compatible with the 5mm post weapon system, which was meant to be a universal feature of all Unicron Trilogy Transformers (so that they can exchange weapons and hold Mini-Cons etc.). :rolleyes: They don't come with weapons of their own and they're not compatible with any other weapon from the UT toys. :(


Beast Wars TM2 Cybershark.

One of the greatest Transformers characters ever (Sky-Byte) was a recolour of one of the line's worst moulds.
This toy was also really overrated. Toy reviewers kept on raving on and on about how awesome this toy was, which hyped up my expectations - so I grabbed it as soon as I saw it... what a massive disappointment. :( I probably wouldn't have been so disappointed if it weren't for all the positive reviews that this toy got.


Beast Machines Nightscream.

An utter piece of $#!* that should have been downscaled at least two price points. Not even worth selling - I gave him away to my then-girlfriend's boss's son.
This toy would've been way better as a smaller carded figure.


Animated Blitzwing.

Designed so the plastic couldn't survive being transformed into tank mode, and then built even more incorrectly in the factory.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that problem with this toy!! I later got TakaraTOMY Animated Blitzwing which is made from superior plastic and is able to transform correctly to all 3 modes (though I prefer the colours on Hasbro's).

SkyWarp91
16th June 2012, 11:52 AM
And yet you still have these repaints in your collection :confused: (remember that these lists are meant to comprise of toys only from your own collection :))

I agree that the over-saturation of Bumblebees has spoiled the franchise and prevented other toys from seeing the light of day (e.g. DotM DLX Leadfoot, Soundwave & Quejack etc.), but I don't think that alone necessarily makes them terrible toys per se. I saw that HA Bumblebee w/ Backfire at Target yesterday... an utterly pointless and random looking repaint that does nothing for me. But it doesn't look like a flawed toy to me.


Well I don't have all the repaints in my collection, thus why I didn't make it my actual bottom 10 list and only listed bumblebee repaints as a joke.
A joke. An obvious joke as well :rolleyes: Speaking of that HA BB I own the stealth repaint version because I had to get that to get HA Roadbuster. That toy, despite its intention to serve as a HA has a rather disappointing robot mode imho compared to its deluxe counterparts. I guess I could have used that in my top 10 but it didn't come off the top of my head.

Ode to a Grasshopper
16th June 2012, 12:29 PM
Hmm...It's hard to think of 10, let alone put them in order.
I don't have a lot of TFs I actually dislike, so there are a few that are just 'meh' as opposed to actually bad in here. TM2 Cheetor would have made the list, but he got ditched a while back.


-Universe Tankor Octane.
Fun character, lame toy. Animated Blitzwing is also a subpar Triple-changer toy-wise, but I loved the take on the character in the show, his tank mode reminds me of the tank from Metal Slug, and the fact that his German-soldier-styled toy can pull off a Nazi salute cracks me up. Octankor

-Reissue Soundwave.
Saw him loose and cheap in store and got him along with Cybertron-mode United Soundwave. My much-loved childhood Soundwave was a little worse for wear, so why not? On the list not because he's bad - he's not, even now he's still a sweet toy - but because within a week or so of my buying him MP Soundwave was announced.:rolleyes:

-KO Classics Ultra Magnus.
The mold is actually pretty good, but I really wish I'd known there was a KO before I bought him so I could have checked whether he was legit. As it turns out he wasn't, so he's on the list.

-DotM Laserbeak.
Got him 'cos he was really cheap and I liked the character in the movie. In fact, besides the Rosie Huntington-Whitely fan service he was the only bit of the movie I liked. Robot mode is OK if a bit hard to keep standing, but as with all Bayverse beastformers he turns into nothing and would have been better as a Robot Replica.

-Movie1 Arcee.
I scored the black version at a bargain price, but the fugly face, loose shoulders, and less-than-dynamic poseability give her a place in Odie's Bottom 10.

-United Ark Unicron.
Not a bad toy as such, just very forgettable. Transformed him once or twice, then put him in storage.

-BW Razorbeast.
Again, not a very good toy. Disappointing from the usually excellent Beast Wars line.

-Galaxy Force Nitro Convoy.
Bought to repurpose into Override, but s/he's just not a good toy. Hard to balance in robot mode with dwarf arms, made-up car-thingy vehicle-mode...Surely with the freedom of 'futuristic' alt-modes HasTak could make something that transforms into a decent robot?

- Cybertron Brushguard.
Just really not-fun. A botanist Decepticon struck me as interesting, but in the Odieverse he can stay and guard the base.

-PRiDE Airachnid.
See here for why. (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=13737)

Slag
16th June 2012, 12:37 PM
I'm feeling a lot of anger there Sky Shadow.. :p

I didn't think jazz was that bad..:o
aren't most of the binaltech/alternaters "pull your hair out" material

kurdt_the_goat
16th June 2012, 01:13 PM
Binaltech Grimlock/Wheeljack has by no means an intuitive transformation (particularly the upper body), but he *can* be transformed without issue with practice (even getting Wheeljack's head through the bonnet), so i still like that toy.
That said, it is definitely the hardest toy in my collection to come back to & transform after not touching for a while!

Slag
16th June 2012, 02:35 PM
Binaltech Grimlock/Wheeljack has by no means an intuitive transformation (particularly the upper body), but he *can* be transformed without issue with practice (even getting Wheeljack's head through the bonnet), so i still like that toy.
That said, it is definitely the hardest toy in my collection to come back to & transform after not touching for a while!

Don't get me wrong. i really like wheeljack, Looks badass or badarse in both modes.
i have a harder time with Lazerwave:o (not to be confused with Flavorwave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLDkbX6w5dU)

GoktimusPrime
16th June 2012, 02:52 PM
I didn't think jazz was that bad..:o
I personally don't think G1 1984 Jazz is that bad, but he's my least favourite of the first year Autobot cars -- and the one I never got as a kid (my G1 Jazzes are reissues ;)).


aren't most of the binaltech/alternaters "pull your hair out" material
Not really. While Binaltechs are rather complex, their transformation schemes are usually reasonably intuitive, whereas Wheeljack and Grimlock are - as kurdt_the_goat said, counter-intuitive. I find other BTs' transformations to be complex, but satisfying and worth the effort, whereas with Wheeljack and Grimlock I just find that the end result isn't worth the effort put into transforming them. :o

Sky Shadow
16th June 2012, 06:49 PM
My post (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=304519&postcount=22) now has images. Which made me notice that I actually picked eleven. So I guess Transmetal Cheetor is now just a dishonourable mention, since I still own two remoulds despite my hatred for the original mould.

GoktimusPrime
16th June 2012, 06:55 PM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/664/65802400.jpg

lol :D

Shirokaze
21st June 2012, 02:05 PM
Here's the list of Transformers I regretted buying immediately, in no particular order.

G2 Obliterator Spark
http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/G1-toy-Pyro.jpg

I remember buying him when I was a lad back in 1999 from a Toyworld in Melbourne. I loved playing with him for about half an hour until this happened:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YUxQEtmX6fE/TbbHm793gXI/AAAAAAAAAH8/rBpJujvXu0M/s1600/P3010032.JPG
I was devastated :(

Universe Powerglide
http://www.cliffbee.com/reviews/images/upowerglide.gif
I think the whole fandom should pretend he never happened.

Classics Cheetor
I didn't need a worse version of one of my favourite childhood figures :confused:
http://www.edbomber.com/main/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/u/n/universe_cheet01.jpg

Animated Blitzwing
Can't pose him without falling over or a leg/wing or anything else popping off :mad:
http://www.seibertron.com/images/products/large/tfa-blitzwing1.jpg
...and when you do get him standing, he looks like some sort of cowboy with those unusual upper thighs.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mjac3LjfWGE/T8VTxy1BYzI/AAAAAAAADXo/OL8mMzHQEn8/s1600/cowboy-lasso.gif

RotF Soundwave
I could never get him to transform into anything remotely resembling a satellite. Threw him into a box somewhere within 5 minutes of opening him.
http://i39.tinypic.com/fvk6is.jpg

Titanium Megatron
Words can't describe how rubbish this figure is. Doesn't stand, doesn't look cool in robot or tank modes.
http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/3/3f/TitaniumGIJoeHeroesMegatron_toy.jpg

Beast Wars Ramulus
An average figure that I've always hated since I was a kid. No idea why? :confused:
http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/20/r_ramulus023.jpg


Not quite 10, but that's all I've got for now. :)

GoktimusPrime
21st June 2012, 03:59 PM
Universe Cheetor is one of your childhood toys?! Hot damn you be young!! :eek:
'scuse me while I hobble away in my grandpa-scooter. :p

SkyWarp91
21st June 2012, 05:13 PM
Universe Cheetor is one of your childhood toys?! Hot damn you be young!! :eek:
'scuse me while I hobble away in my grandpa-scooter. :p

You ain't old, I'm an immortal and I come from the age of horse-back riding and good ol' three foot walking ;););););)

But Cheetor as a childhood toy, dayum - at least you got a main character. One of the only official TFs I had in my youth was a BM Jetstorm, had no idea who he was and no idea why he looked like an alien jet.

Btw, those unusual leg things you talk about are known as CHAPS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaps - thank American Pickers for that bit of knowledge

Sky Shadow
21st June 2012, 06:56 PM
Universe Cheetor is one of your childhood toys?! Hot damn you be young!! :eek:
'scuse me while I hobble away in my grandpa-scooter. :p

He said 'I didn't need a worse version of one of my favourite childhood figures'.

Beast Wars Cheetor was a childhood toy, not Universe.

(We're still old timers by comparison, just not that old.)

GoktimusPrime
21st June 2012, 08:29 PM
Oh right, gotcha. And yeah, still makes me feel old. :p

SuspectimusPrime
21st June 2012, 09:51 PM
Don't really understand why Animated Blitzwing is copping so more flak in this thread.

I really enjoyed this figure, it was actually one of my favs in the Animated line. My first Animated fig (I think..), had zero of the QC issues mentioned by everyone else, has a decent flight mode (minus the tank kibble), and an awesome tank mode (I really liked Metal Slug in HS). :)

Sky Shadow
21st June 2012, 10:49 PM
Don't really understand why Animated Blitzwing is copping so more flak in this thread.

I really enjoyed this figure, it was actually one of my favs in the Animated line. My first Animated fig (I think..), had zero of the QC issues mentioned by everyone else, has a decent flight mode (minus the tank kibble), and an awesome tank mode (I really liked Metal Slug in HS). :)

If you bought the Hasbro Animated Blitzwing then it was misassembled: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/209461-animated-blitzwing-factory-assembly-error-fix.html And have a look at the tabs where it locks in in tank mode. If (again) yours is from Hasbro and it doesn't have any plastic stress like on the left in Goktimus's post here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=66049&postcount=73) then it's miraculous.

Shirokaze
21st June 2012, 10:50 PM
I'm 22 at the moment, so I guess I'm still young compared to the average Transfan. :D

Sky Shadow's right on the money, BW Cheetor was my childhood toy. I remember calling literally dozens of retailers when I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade, trying desperately to find a Cheetor that my aunty could buy for my birthday. Definitely one of my fondest memories.

You must be close to my age Skywarp, if you were playing with a BM Jetstorm!

SuspectimusPrime
21st June 2012, 11:20 PM
If you bought the Hasbro Animated Blitzwing then it was misassembled: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/209461-animated-blitzwing-factory-assembly-error-fix.html And have a look at the tabs where it locks in in tank mode. If (again) yours is from Hasbro and it doesn't have any plastic stress like on the left in Goktimus's post here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=66049&postcount=73) then it's miraculous.

I don't recall any stress marks on the fig, and I did transform it a few times. I'm heading back to Sydney this weekend and may dig it out to have a look (needing to dig out another fig for a personal project/obsession). Thanks for the link!



I'm 22 at the moment, so I guess I'm still young compared to the average Transfan. :D

Sky Shadow's right on the money, BW Cheetor was my childhood toy. I remember calling literally dozens of retailers when I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade, trying desperately to find a Cheetor that my aunty could buy for my birthday. Definitely one of my fondest memories.

You must be close to my age Skywarp, if you were playing with a BM Jetstorm!

Loved BW Cheetor as a kid! It was my very first BW fig and I transformed him a bajillion times! Never had any issues with the ball joints degrading. Plastic from that era was awesome.

kurdt_the_goat
23rd June 2012, 12:58 AM
If you bought the Hasbro Animated Blitzwing then it was misassembled: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/209461-animated-blitzwing-factory-assembly-error-fix.html And have a look at the tabs where it locks in in tank mode. If (again) yours is from Hasbro and it doesn't have any plastic stress like on the left in Goktimus's post here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=66049&postcount=73) then it's miraculous.

Mine is Hasbro and has minor stress marks. Those pics look like some seriously messed up plastic or mishandling though! Those type of snap-in connections can be super tight if you're just pulling the pieces away from each other, but if you separate them as if you were breaking a cracker/biscuit in half, they come apart with no effort whatsoever.

Slag
28th June 2012, 08:02 PM
Binaltech Grimlock.

Even worse than not being Transformable is being no fun at all to transform without simultaneously pulling out all your hair. Once this thing was in robot mode, it stayed in robot mode.






Not really. While Binaltechs are rather complex, their transformation schemes are usually reasonably intuitive, whereas Wheeljack and Grimlock are - as kurdt_the_goat said, counter-intuitive. I find other BTs' transformations to be complex, but satisfying and worth the effort, whereas with Wheeljack and Grimlock I just find that the end result isn't worth the effort put into transforming them. :o

Thought of you guys when i saw this..:p
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-Alternators-2-figure-lot-set-Meister-Grimlock-complete-instructions-/350577088039?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item51a005d627#ht_725wt_1413

Sky Shadow
28th June 2012, 08:05 PM
Thought of you guys when i saw this..:p
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-Alternators-2-figure-lot-set-Meister-Grimlock-complete-instructions-/350577088039?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item51a005d627#ht_725wt_1413

Bwahahaha! :D I rest my case.

Trent
28th June 2012, 09:08 PM
Thought of you guys when i saw this..:p
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-Alternators-2-figure-lot-set-Meister-Grimlock-complete-instructions-/350577088039?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item51a005d627#ht_725wt_1413

Lol. Should ask him for some photos in both car and robot mode :p