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kup
5th December 2012, 01:02 PM
Like it was with Maketoys Giant vs Hercules, looks like we now have two 3rd parties doing Predakings.

Here is the new yet to be identified contender:

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/154681_250057675121645_1939757429_n.jpg

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/587_250057688454977_226734721_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486968_431543823578230_824539784_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319653_431543836911562_1988056375_n.jpg

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45356_431559766909969_486352827_n.jpg

Source:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/war-lord-beasticons-unlicensed-generation-1-predaking-176429/

Apparently it is based on this fan made custom figure:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/radicons-customs/27310199d1343114431-predaking-2-0-revised-edition-_cimg5426.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/radicons-customs/27310199d1343114431-predaking-2-0-revised-edition-_cimg5426.jpg

SuspectimusPrime
5th December 2012, 04:23 PM
That looks pretty damn good :eek: From the looks of the custom next to Cyclonus, he's a few centremetres taller than Green Giant? Love that lion head and the impressive wingspan -- bring on the beast kibble!! Would have preferred his giant shoulder cannons to be on his back like the G1 cartoon (as per the awesome S3 episode: Call of the Primitives) rather than on the shoulder joints :)

http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/6/6d/Predaking_primatives.jpg

Source: TFWiki.net, http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/6/6d/Predaking_primatives.jpg

Lord_Zed
5th December 2012, 06:42 PM
The combined mode is looking good, all the features I'd hope for in the torso and left arm are there.

Divebomb individually looks pretty simplistic though.

liegeprime
5th December 2012, 09:02 PM
well I'm getting whichever is a) cheaper b) looks better with green giant c ) has less QC issues on reviews.

canofwhoopass_87
5th December 2012, 09:05 PM
Looks pretty good, but he needs a bit of beef on him. Bit too lean for my liking :p

kup
5th December 2012, 09:10 PM
Looks pretty good, but he needs a bit of beef on him. Bit too lean for my liking :p

lol that's the issue I have with the MMC silhouette but as we saw with that Omega Supreme, silhouettes hardly give you a true representation.

I am still leaning towards MMC as they are a proven company but these new guys do have my attention.

Trent
5th December 2012, 09:28 PM
Hmm...

I'm with you Kup. While this one does look pretty cool, MMC has a great reputation that will be hard to pass up. However those Ferocicons will be damn expensive I'm willing to bet. So we'll see...

Lord_Zed
5th December 2012, 10:22 PM
If and when either of these companies get around to releasing them of course. Third party land is still rife with vaporware.

Still waiting for Hexatron, Presser, Assaulter...

Oh wait the last one of those actually happened. :D

Bidoofdude
6th December 2012, 08:36 PM
Looks pretty good and will probably look great in classicsverse, if it sees the light of day. I really like how the combined form's thighs are Razorclaw's legs with a crotch plate on it.

Lord_Zed
6th December 2012, 08:45 PM
I sure hope Tantrum and Headstrong end up a lot bigger than in the custom, because his legs are far too weedy.

Jim_jim
8th December 2012, 06:21 PM
The prototype always looks good. Really need to check out when it is done.

1AZRAEL1
16th December 2012, 07:00 PM
I like the look of it, but I will have to see how my funds go to whether I can afford him or not.

SuspectimusPrime
17th December 2012, 09:25 AM
An update via TFormers, with prototype not-Razorclaw compared against Hercules Structor (http://tformers.com/transformers-unique-toys-warlord-beasticon-first/19101/news.html). If Razorclaw is almost voyager sized, and the other not-Predacons are deluxe sized, then this not-Predaking should be roughly taller than Maketoys Giant/FP Colossus.

kup
19th December 2012, 07:07 PM
Comparison pics and this company's Razorclaw:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/unique-toys-war-leo-revealed-and-size-comparison-pics-176530/

I am sorry new dudes but judging by their Tantrum, MMC wins hands down. Those toys look too geewun for me.

Lord_Zed
19th December 2012, 07:35 PM
I have no problem with a well executed geewun update, however Razorclaw looks compromised by combined form and gimmick. I'm guessing his big torso contains batteries for the light up lion eyes. it's a nifty gimmick but it makes the robot mode look awkward. The arms lack a bit of detail too.

I don't think he looks that bad, but at the moment Masterminds Tantrum is bringing a bit more to the table.

SuspectimusPrime
21st December 2012, 11:26 PM
Pre-order for War Hawk/not-Divebomb is up on BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=UQT10000&mode=retail).
As their size scaling is in line with TFC Hercules, price pointing is also at that same level -- not-Divebomb is $95, so the full set is likely be over $500 as not-Razorclaw is a larger fig.

Also revealed is not-Divebomb's alt mode (via BBTS):
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/aux1/large/UQT10000.jpg

theheretic
22nd December 2012, 07:58 PM
Only $74.90 at RK and they have bot mode, alt mode, arm mode and arm attached to not-razorclaw/Predaking torso

link to item here (http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=WARLORD001&lang=us&CatID=)

Ode to a Grasshopper
21st January 2013, 08:37 PM
Coloured Unique Toys not-Divebomb pics up at TFW2005.com (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/unique-toys-war-hawk-colored-prototype-pics-176710/).

MMC still looks better IMO, but the UT take looks pretty sweet too - I kinda want both sets now but can't really justify the expense yet.

SuspectimusPrime
21st January 2013, 10:59 PM
Coloured Unique Toys not-Divebomb pics up at TFW2005.com (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/unique-toys-war-hawk-colored-prototype-pics-176710/).

MMC still looks better IMO, but the UT take looks pretty sweet too - I kinda want both sets now but can't really justify the expense yet.

That colour scheme is just perfect, I like the hawk-helmet and vintage sword. However overall I think MMC's transformation and colour palette will be released soon (before the 26th so I could confirm my pre-order).

Ode to a Grasshopper
23rd January 2013, 08:52 AM
Not-Headstrong prototype/uncoloured pics up at TFW2005.com (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/warlord-beasticons-war-rhino-prototype-revealed-176719/).
They're also up at tformers.com.

kup
23rd January 2013, 09:03 AM
Not-Headstrong prototype/uncoloured pics up at TFW2005.com (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/3rd-party-unlicensed-41/warlord-beasticons-war-rhino-prototype-revealed-176719/).
They're also up at tformers.com.

Not bad. They are clearly trying to up one another.

Competition always benefits the consumer but I have already thrown my support for MMC's.

This is gearing to be some epic battle!

Hursticon
23rd January 2013, 05:35 PM
Not bad. They are clearly trying to up one another.

Competition always benefits the consumer but I have already thrown my support for MMC's.

This is gearing to be some epic battle!

It's certainly been 'Tic for Tac' lately huh? - It's an enjoyable show that will certainly be entertaining to watch as it unfurls, but my money will be going with MMC too. ;):cool:

Ode to a Grasshopper
23rd January 2013, 10:47 PM
My position is something like this:
I'm definitely picking up the MMC version, even at the inflated Japanese specialty shop prices.
I may also pick up the UT version. They are, as kup pointed out, very geewun, but I'm a sucker for the G1 Predacons - they're my favourite combiner team. Chances are it'll ultimately come down to how much I like the official TakTom offerings this year - MP Soundwave is a must-have as are his little friends, there are a few Beast Hunters figs I'm interested in, and we've got 40-odd Generations figures coming out, so it'll really be a question of how many of the above official figures turn out to be worth getting as to whether the budget stretches that far.

kaiden
29th January 2013, 02:25 PM
from RK's Facebook page


URGENT: Unique Toys just informed us that they will lower the cost! Therefore Robotkingdom will reduce the price of UT-W01 to $59.9 :) Please allow us a later time to refund the difference of previous pre-order, should able to refund all preorders during this week.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=Category&II=WARLORD001&lang=us&CatID=55_111

kup
29th January 2013, 03:00 PM
from RK's Facebook page

Wow, they must feel really threatened by MMC.

Trent
29th January 2013, 03:51 PM
That's a big drop. Wasn't it priced at like $95 originally?

Hursticon
29th January 2013, 04:58 PM
Cheaper price or not, I've made my choice & I'm sticking with it. :cool:

Deceptic_Optic
4th February 2013, 08:21 AM
so what the verdict guys which one is better?

(Unique Toys) War Lord VS (Mastreminds) Reformatted - Feral Rex

Shirokaze
4th February 2013, 09:58 AM
I'm prefer the MMC offering. I prefer the proportions of the combined mode and I think the individual figures have a higher level of detail :)

kup
4th February 2013, 10:14 AM
MMC by far.

Ode to a Grasshopper
4th February 2013, 10:03 PM
so what the verdict guys which one is better?

(Unique Toys) War Lord VS (Mastreminds) Reformatted - Feral Rex Depends on whether you prefer resemblance to G1 (UT) or updated-but-different-design (MMC).
Personally I'm going for the MMC version (they're not especially faithful to the originals, but they look amazing), but if you want G1 accuracy with better posability then UT would be the way to go. TBH if the budget stretches far enough then I'll get both sets.

That said, maybe wait on reviews once people actually have them in-hand...right now it's all just a few pics on the internet.

Hursticon
4th February 2013, 11:22 PM
Depends on whether you prefer resemblance to G1 (UT) or updated-but-different-design (MMC).
Personally I'm going for the MMC version (they're not especially faithful to the originals, but they look amazing), but if you want G1 accuracy with better posability then UT would be the way to go. TBH if the budget stretches far enough then I'll get both sets.

That said, maybe wait on reviews once people actually have them in-hand...right now it's all just a few pics on the internet.

I share very similar thoughts to Odey here, personally I already own a G1 Predaking so I'll be going for the MMC set. ;):cool:

SuspectimusPrime
5th February 2013, 12:35 PM
Depends on whether you prefer resemblance to G1 (UT) or updated-but-different-design (MMC).
Personally I'm going for the MMC version (they're not especially faithful to the originals, but they look amazing), but if you want G1 accuracy with better posability then UT would be the way to go. TBH if the budget stretches far enough then I'll get both sets.

That said, maybe wait on reviews once people actually have them in-hand...right now it's all just a few pics on the internet.

I'm going for MMC easily despite less accurate G1 alt-modes. I welcome the update and consistency, since Green Giant and FP Colossus's individual robot modes are also different to their G1 incarnations.

VGMStudios
6th February 2013, 02:19 AM
Im looking forward to seeing some side by side comparisons.
Ill have to wait till these are out first though.
I don't know which one I'll pick them again ive only seen mmc version.

DarkHyren
20th February 2013, 04:25 AM
While the UT ones look pretty cool I do have to say they sort of look like a "What if Hasbro/TakTomy made the Predacons with todays technology".
Which in itself isn't a bad thing, but seeing as I only just bought the 2010 reissue Predacons if I was going to buy one or the other I'd probably get the MMC one.
But if the complete set ends up being a bargain basement price I might end up reconsidering.

VERT
20th February 2013, 07:43 AM
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0489.jpg

VERT
20th February 2013, 10:16 AM
Okay this is a quick review on the new not Divebomb. He is deluxe size and really
does have the G1 look and feel. This I do like so it was that and the price that made me get this over MMs version. The Botmode has all the standard modern articulation. Waist, shoulders, elbows, head, ball jointed hips, Leg swivel. knees. the wings are great. Each feather can move and the wing can move up and down and in and out.
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0495.jpg

The Bird mode.. Well its more or less the same as G1, But again with articulation.
The Head moves and the mouth can open. The wings can move around same as bot mode and the legs can move. Each Bird foot has three articulated claws. I think that was a nice touch.
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0494.jpg

Arm Mode.. Looks quite nice, and has a full range of movement. Its about as long as the Hercules Devastator Arms. But with less bulk. The Hand is fantastic. Sharp spikes and fully articulated. Every part of each finger moves. Hands down BEST Combiner hand ever :D
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0493.jpghttp://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0490.jpg

Plastic... Its all hard plastic as in none of the softer plastic. So feels a little brittle. But not cheap and nasty like that $100 Impossible Toys Arcee that came out. Divebomb is not going to shatter if you drop him. But does feel a little cheaper than a Fansproject figure.....But they are the best so that not fair... It feels better in hand than most modern Hasbro figures.

If you can afford it I would recommend the MMs versions. We all know they are amazing. But if your on a bit of a budget and want one real nice Predaking (Cause I think thats going to be this sets strong point) Get this set.

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0488.jpg

kup
20th February 2013, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the review! This Predaking set does seem like a perfectly good alternative for those that want a more 'G1' articulated Predaking.

The arm mod does look amazing.

Ode to a Grasshopper
10th April 2013, 11:16 PM
Not-Razorclaw prototype pics up at tformers.com (http://tformers.com/transformers-unique-toys-war-leo-not/19817/news.html).
Alt-mode looks pretty decent but bot mode is let down by the oversized lion head for his chest. Aside from the oversized lion head/chest both modes are noticeably less faithful to G1 than Not-Divebomb, not that that's necessarily a bad thing here (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1toy-Razorclaw.jpg).

It's still MMC by a long shot for me.

VERT
10th April 2013, 11:39 PM
Yeah the Lion head is huge. I will be getting this. Im committed now cause I have Divebomb. This kitty will make a great Predaking chest. And look this Razorclaw has arms....As in the G1 had arms like stumps :D Hope they release the next one soon.

Trent
11th April 2013, 07:01 AM
TFsource had a new prototype combined mode pic up on their Facebook page the other day (I would link to it but on iPhone). It looked pretty awesome.

As for Razorclaw, as long as he hasn't got the T-Rex arms that the G1 version had its going to be an improvement.

Tober
11th April 2013, 07:12 AM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/902197_10151353824141711_33525168_o_zps5a7ef66f.jp g

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/521710_10151354970511711_1964314120_n_zpse803acd3. jpg

VERT
11th April 2013, 07:51 AM
Yeah I think I will be happy with that :D

canofwhoopass_87
11th April 2013, 10:05 AM
Ooo that looks pretty good. It may not be as detailed as the MMC version, but sometimes simple is better! Price is much more appealing too.

Looking forward to colour pics

kup
11th April 2013, 11:31 AM
Combined it does look really good. If it wasn't for MMC's release, I would most likely be getting this for the gestalt.

VGMStudios
17th April 2013, 04:13 AM
That is a thing of beauty!
Are there compaire shots of this and mmcs?
I can't seem to find any.

lcz128
23rd April 2013, 11:35 PM
That is a thing of beauty!
Are there compaire shots of this and mmcs?
I can't seem to find any.

Seeing as none of mmc's is out, at most you'd have to put two separate images together unfortunately

VGMStudios
25th April 2013, 01:39 PM
Seeing as none of mmc's is out, at most you'd have to put two separate images together unfortunately

Ahh ok. I was not aware or up to date on MMCs version.
thanks for the reply! :)

Gouki
28th April 2013, 05:38 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/902197_10151353824141711_33525168_o_zps5a7ef66f.jp g

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/521710_10151354970511711_1964314120_n_zpse803acd3. jpg

I'm not a fan of third party stuff, generally, but that is nice. Anymore detailed and it's overkill. There's a reason Hasbro/Takara streamline a lot of their designs.

Ode to a Grasshopper
11th May 2013, 10:22 AM
Not-Rampage pics up - link to tformers.com (http://tformers.com/transformers-unique-toys-violence-the-war/20062/news.html) but they're doing the rounds on quite a few sites.

kup
11th May 2013, 10:48 AM
Not-Rampage pics up - link to tformers.com (http://tformers.com/transformers-unique-toys-violence-the-war/20062/news.html) but they're doing the rounds on quite a few sites.


MMC wins this round - again!

Sinnertwin
11th May 2013, 11:21 AM
Combined mode looks fantastic

kup
11th May 2013, 11:33 AM
More comparisons between MMC and UT Predakings from TFW. Classics Prime and Nemesis Prime are being used as the control:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k612/nosredna1313/Untitled-7_zps73abb5ce.jpg

VGMStudios
11th May 2013, 04:45 PM
My word. The one with nemesis prime is so amazing. A lot better and bigger then the other one.

Vgm out...

KalEl
11th May 2013, 08:32 PM
Hell yes brothers!

Sinnertwin
11th May 2013, 08:41 PM
When you compare them like that... Wow, the one on the left is an absolute beast. Makes the other one look anorexic

VERT
13th June 2013, 01:09 PM
Got the next one today. Not Headstrong is cool. Also has led lights
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0627-1.jpg

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/DSC_0630-1.jpg

Jilm101
28th July 2013, 09:51 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the tfc version?

Trent
28th July 2013, 11:12 PM
What's everyone's thoughts on the tfc version?

It's cool, but not as cool as MMC's

VERT
23rd December 2013, 02:47 PM
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/46b4f859-731b-401d-8a7c-5731e2fad958.jpg (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/VERTYSNAP/media/46b4f859-731b-401d-8a7c-5731e2fad958.jpg.html)

ChlorHex
31st March 2014, 01:28 PM
Has anyone here picked up the TFC Rampage figure?

Trent
31st March 2014, 02:10 PM
Has anyone here picked up the TFC Rampage figure?

You want this thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=16218) for that sort of talk.

ChlorHex
31st March 2014, 04:15 PM
You want this thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=16218) for that sort of talk.

Perfect.
Thanks for that :)

SuspectimusPrime
1st April 2014, 10:45 AM
Leo Dux finally made it into my POL.

King Atlas
15th April 2014, 05:48 PM
woops this is not the MMC