Masterpiece Grimlock to be re-released by Hasbro Asia

[Trent]

Rumor over on Seibertron (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rumor-masterpiece-grimlock-to-be-rereleased-by-hasbro-asia/26796/)


Greetings fellow Transfans.

Today, i receive note from my distributor that Hasbro Asia are to release Takara MP8 Grimlock again at the end of July this year.

It will be identical to previous releases, with no changes or extra added.


Price will be 680MYR, which is roughly $220.00

So there you go. But that's still a fair wad of cash.:eek:

[Bidoofdude]

Not bad. I might consider it. Still quite high, but It's better than aftermarket...;)

[Starscream77]

Great news for me, he is the only MP still on my want list and 220 is better than the evil bay price tags
Bring him on

[Omega Metro]

That'll be right! .........Just forked out $225 on Ebay for one. Including postage though so ain't bad really.

[KalEl]

Yes please, I need one for Gregg Berger to sign

[Bidoofdude]

Well, if it is true, it's quoted in Malaysian currency, which equates to $67 AUD.
Might be good. I want to hear more...:cool:

[Bidoofdude]

Yes please, I need one for Gregg Berger to sign

As do I... As do I...:cool:

[Gouki]

That is a great price considering how much people charge for him now.

[Iriorne]

Well, if it is true, it's quoted in Malaysian currency, which equates to $67 AUD.

Yep, but it's actually more like AU $215 (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=680+rm+in+aud&oq=680+rm+in+aud). :D

[canofwhoopass_87]

What a crappy price

[GoktimusPrime]

Yep, but it's actually more like AU $215 (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=680+rm+in+aud&oq=680+rm+in+aud). :D
+1 QFT! That's damn expensive. :( MP Grimlock was barely worth the $150 RRP it sold for here! :eek: IMO from a design/engineering perspective he's the most simplistically designed MP toy... that's not necessarily a bad thing per se, but whether people think it's actually worth paying $215 for, I dunno -- I'd recommend having a look at someone else's MP Grimlock IRL before deciding (try before you buy ;)).

[lancalot]

Usually the Asia reissue come with a different paint job , so hopefully a chrome version more like the mp8x :)

[Hursticon]

If this rumour eventuates it'll definitely be good for all those who missed out the 1st time around :cool:; However, that price is disgusting & is in no way reflective of the original RRP or (IMO) its real value - That is one part of this rumour that I hope doesn't manifest. :eek:
(Certainly makes me glad that I bought mine when I did from RK :D)

[GoktimusPrime]

Usually the Asia reissue come with a different paint job , so hopefully a chrome version more like the mp8x :)
+$65 for chrome? :confused: :(

[5FDP]

Wow... $220... seriously?! :eek: :eek: Glad I picked mine up when it first came out and even then I had second thoughts because of the price. Who am I kidding; he's Grimlock :cool: :D

[Shirokaze]

Rejoiced when I saw the thread title, cringed after reading the price :eek: I suppose if he's an improvement on the first version, then I may consider it.... but it'd have to be one hell of a paint app.....

[Trent]

This appears to be a trend for Hasbro Asia. They are reissuing TFs with a very high aftermarket value and setting their price very close to that 'value'. They did the same with Bruticus Maximus and their upcoming leader class movie Brawl.

Theyre simply playing the Supply and Demand game. :rolleyes:


Usually the Asia reissue come with a different paint job , so hopefully a chrome version more like the mp8x :)

The rumor originator stated that it will be exactly the same as the Takara release.

[Gouki]

Seriously guys, if you can find me a brand new MIB Masterpiece Grimlock for less than that ($220~) price more power to you, but it's not going to happen and that makes this a great price because aftermarket sucks massively for Transformers.

[Starscream77]

Seriously guys, if you can find me a brand new MIB Masterpiece Grimlock for less than that ($220~) price more power to you, but it's not going to happen and that makes this a great price because aftermarket sucks massively for Transformers.

+1

[Omega Metro]

Seriously guys, if you can find me a brand new MIB Masterpiece Grimlock for less than that ($220~) price more power to you, but it's not going to happen and that makes this a great price because aftermarket sucks massively for Transformers.

^This.:)

[5FDP]

Seriously guys, if you can find me a brand new MIB Masterpiece Grimlock for less than that ($220~) price more power to you, but it's not going to happen and that makes this a great price because aftermarket sucks massively for Transformers.

So, by that rationale, if they were to release him for $400 and aftermarket prices were slightly above that, you'd still consider that to be a great price? I'm looking at it from a different perspective i.e. what you're actually getting for $220.

[GoktimusPrime]

Seriously guys, if you can find me a brand new MIB Masterpiece Grimlock for less than that ($220~) price more power to you, but it's not going to happen and that makes this a great price because aftermarket sucks massively for Transformers.
...and that's why I usually buy Transformers off the current market. (-_-)


So, by that rationale, if they were to release him for $400 and aftermarket prices were slightly above that, you'd still consider that to be a great price? I'm looking at it from a different perspective i.e. what you're actually getting for $220.
^This. :)

[Gouki]

...and that's why I usually buy Transformers off the current market. (-_-)

And in an ideal world, everybody could afford to do that. But we don't live in an ideal world.


So, by that rationale, if they were to release him for $400 and aftermarket prices were slightly above that, you'd still consider that to be a great price? I'm looking at it from a different perspective i.e. what you're actually getting for $220.

Each case has to be taken individually, but basically, yes. If Grimlock was rereleased for $400 and his aftermarket prices were $500+ then, absolutely. What am I getting for $220 if I buy this? Well, I'm getting what would cost me way more on the aftermarket, so, how is that a bad thing?

[Trent]

And in an ideal world, everybody could afford to do that. But we don't live in an ideal world.



Each case has to be taken individually, but basically, yes. If Grimlock was rereleased for $400 and his aftermarket prices were $500+ then, absolutely. What am I getting for $220 if I buy this? Well, I'm getting what would cost me way more on the aftermarket, so, how is that a bad thing?

You've also gotta take into account that as supply is increasing, demand will drop. Effectively Hasbro Asia have just reset the value of MP Grimlock to the price they sell for (As long as its in stock). So someone keen to offload one will have to drop below that point to move their product.

[GoktimusPrime]

And in an ideal world, everybody could afford to do that. But we don't live in an ideal world.
$220 seems less affordable than $150 to me. :confused: One reason why I prefer collecting toys off the primary market as opposed to the secondary market is because it works out cheaper (usually)!


Each case has to be taken individually, but basically, yes. If Grimlock was rereleased for $400 and his aftermarket prices were $500+ then, absolutely. What am I getting for $220 if I buy this? Well, I'm getting what would cost me way more on the aftermarket, so, how is that a bad thing?
I wouldn't say it's a "bad" thing -- good and bad are subjective and open to interpretation. But I wouldn't say it's terribly good value for money. Let me out it this way, a loose complete Fortress Maximus might cost you $1000 -- goodness knows how much a MISB G1 Fortress Maximus would cost. Let's just say $2000 for the sake of argument. So if they reissued a Fortress Maximus and sold it at $1500, would you consider that to be a good price considering that our hypothetical aftermarket price is $2000? Maybe for you it would be, but I personally wouldn't pay that, not when Brave Maximus cost me about $300 MISB. But of course, Encore Fortress Maximus is slated to be sold at 29800JPY ($315), which I find to be acceptable as it pretty much matches Brave Max's RRP (cheaper still for those of us who've preordered and obtained earlybird discounts). They recently did that chrome reissue of Sixshot (another Asian exclusive) at a much higher RRP than the first reissue... I can't remember what the price was, but I remember thinking to myself that there's no way I'd ever pay it.

I often feel that I'm paying an "impatience tax" when I buy toys at full RRP instead of waiting for it to come down in price during sales. But I think that when you pay inflated aftermarket prices, you're no longer just paying for the intrinsic value of that toy itself, you're paying like an "aftermarket tax". Every dollar above that toy's RRP is part of that "aftermarket tax" (just as every dollar I pay above sale price is part of the "impatience tax" for me). So at $220, you're paying $150 for the toy and about $70 "tax" on top of it. :o

"I love paying more taxes!" - Nobody Ever. ;)

[griffin]

$220 seems less affordable than $150 to me. :confused: One reason why I prefer collecting toys off the primary market as opposed to the secondary market is because it works out cheaper (usually)!

He's talking about it being ideal if he (and others) could afford it when it was released... not the willingness to pay an extra $70.
Most of us can't afford the more expensive toys when they are first released, so by the time we can afford them, we have to pay more. We don't like it, having to pay more later, but we don't like it more when other people tell us that we should have bought it when it was released.

So... it would be an ideal world if we could afford the higher demand toys we really want, when they are at their cheapest (at release).

[i_amtrunks]

I'm another one who could not afford the original and slightly more reasonable $150 for this figure who won't be parting with $220 to get a re-release version.

I'd love an MP Grimlock after finally getting a decent quality G1 version, but that price is still too rich. But there are plenty who will see the price as reasonable or worthwhile who will purchase it, making Hasbro Asia very happy. :p

[Starscream77]

It's not an ideal price we all realize that, but for those who missed the initial chance to get it for one reason or another would be happy at this price if you still really want one.
Yes it is very dear but I really want one and I would rather pay 220 for something I know is brand new than 250+ on eBay for something probably open.
I don't think those of us who will pay it should be made to feel stupid which is how some of the comments on here are coming off

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm another one who could not afford the original and slightly more reasonable $150 for this figure who won't be parting with $220 to get a re-release version.

I'd love an MP Grimlock after finally getting a decent quality G1 version, but that price is still too rich.
^This! :)

If I were in your position i_amtrunks, that's precisely what I'd do. And I have been in a similar position before. MP-08 Grimlock was released in Japan 3 months before my wife was due to give birth, so I wasn't in a position to make a big expensive purchase. I called Hasbro who then told me that they would not be releasing an MP Grimlock and advised me to import the Japanese version. Their information has since turned out to be inaccurate, but at that time it seemed true to me, so I simply resigned myself as not getting an MP Grimlock. As fortune would have it, Hasbro did release their own MP Grimlock, which sold here for $150 (about $5 above TakTOM's price, but worked out cheaper since I didn't have to pay for postage), and best for me as a G1 comic > cartoon fan, it came with the crown instead of the brain scanner and butler accessories. :) But in that case, I got the toy because it was re-released at about the same price as TakTOM's version... if it'd been substantially above TaKTOM's price, then I wouldn't have paid it and just skipped it again. And I'm sure if this Asian exclusive version were closer to $150 then more people would be willing to get it. ;)


But there are plenty who will see the price as reasonable or worthwhile who will purchase it, making Hasbro Asia very happy. :p
Yeah, I suppose it all depends on how desperately you want this toy MISB. If you really want it, then you have 2 options:
1. Bite the bullet and pay $220 for this overpriced reissue that's cheaper than the aftermarket prices for the previous versions. Not the best price, but cheaper than current alternatives.
2. Skip and see if HasTak releases it again at a better price.

Option 2 is a gamble... and while Option 1 is dearer, at least it's a sure bet.


I don't think those of us who will pay it should be made to feel stupid which is how some of the comments on here are coming off
I don't think that's been anyone's intention, merely that our hobby^lifestyle choice is jolly expensive at the best of times, let alone when paying increased prices. I'm more frustrated about Hasbro Asia trying to gouge collectors with their inflated price point. If TakaraTOMY can release Encore Fort Max at about the same RRP as Brave Max from 13 years ago, I don't see why Hasbro Asia couldn't re-release MP Grimlock at its original RRP too. :rolleyes:

[Sinnertwin]

Wow... $220... $20 more and that's a weeks rent. Thanks, but I'd much rather a roof over my head.

[i_amtrunks]

I don't think those of us who will pay it should be made to feel stupid which is how some of the comments on here are coming off

I don't think that has been the goal of anyone on here. If someone is wanting an MP Grimlock for $220 (which is better than market value) then go for it. I think myself and others were just stating that they will not.

Perhaps this will have a positive flow on effect reducing second hand prices a bit to more reasonable levels? Who knows.

Hasbro Asia are doing what is good for their business by releasing an in demand figure for an optimal price. It's like the exact opposite of Supreme BM Cheetor! :D

[Bidoofdude]

Hasbro Asia are doing what is good for their business by releasing an in demand figure for an optimal price. :D

I see what you did there.

[GoktimusPrime]

Perhaps this will have a positive flow on effect reducing second hand prices a bit to more reasonable levels? Who knows
That's a good point... similar to how reissues reduce the aftermarket prices of originals. :)

[5FDP]

I don't think anyone is implying that if someone were to pay $220 for a MP Grimlock that they are stupid. I certainly am not. The point that I was trying to make is that we seem to have blurred the lines between what is a better price and what is good value. $220 is better than aftermarket prices, no doubt, but it's definitely not good value for money regardless of when it was released or for how much.

[griffin]

No, it was just one post misinterpreting what was being said about how it isn't always easy or possible to buy toys at RRP as they are released, because if you can't afford it at the time, you have no choice but to pay more later when you can afford it.
As such, it would be ideal if you could always afford things at RRP when they are released.

[skylynx]

Hey guys does anyone have any updates on this matter? The rumor seemed to have just dissapeared

[Cat]

That is now thought to just be the Platinum Grimlock vs Predaking set misinterpreted, IIRC.

[maxirod]

I remember getting my new TT Grimlock in April 12' for $130. By year end, it rose up to $170. And now it cost more than $200.

[AJ_Prime]

Damn, still way out of my price range. I missed the Oz release of the Grimlock but would love to have got one at the price it was going for at the time. Oh well, might get lucky in future...

[maxirod]

Further updates posted months ago...
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/asia-exclusive-mp08-grimlock/27761/

[Cat]

Glad I was wrong.

Good for those who missed out last time.

Great toy, too.

[Sky Shadow]

Wow... $220... $20 more and that's a weeks rent. Thanks, but I'd much rather a roof over my head.

That sounds like my new reality TV show, Me Grimlock Not Need Roof, which follows a bunch of nerds who each need to survive a week of homelessness with a Masterpiece Grimlock. Any of them who make it to the end of the week alive with their Grimlock intact gets to keep the toy. Coming soon to Channel 10.

[gamblor916]

That box looks really nice.

[skylynx]

it's up on lunar toy store http://www.lunartoystore.com/products/mp-08-asian-exclusive-grimlock-pre-order

damn $250 USD :mad::mad:

[Iriorne]

damn $250 USD :mad::mad:

Keep in mind that what they're selling is limited early release stock that they've air freighted to the US from Asia, plus they'll have their own markup on that as well. Once it's available in Asia the prices will probably be lower.

[Shirokaze]

$250 is rediculous. Was looking forward to this, and was expecting about $150, but $100 more? No thanks. :mad:

EDIT:

Keep in mind that what they're selling is limited early release stock that they've air freighted to the US from Asia, plus they'll have their own markup on that as well. Once it's available in Asia the prices will probably be lower.

I hope you're right :)

[Hursticon]

$250 is rediculous. Was looking forward to this, and was expecting about $150, but $100 more? No thanks. :mad:

I hope you're right :)

Me too, as an owner, I can definitely say that the figure is amazing but certainly not worth anything over $150. :o

[Raptormesh]

Seems people are buying anyway and hope to flip them on ebay for 500 or so.

[Hursticon]

Seems people are buying anyway and hope to flip them on ebay for 500 or so.

Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:

[lancalot]

how much was the rrp for a hasbro one anyways?

[Sinnertwin]

how much was the rrp for a hasbro one anyways?

As an example:
RK originally had him for +/- $70 USD, but then raised it to $90 USD before they sold out (http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP08HA&lang=us&CatID=) -which is where i purchased mine

TRU Australia had him for $150.

[Bidoofdude]

Man, this would be like the best thing for me to get Gregg Berger to sign. May as well start saving. Hopefully his price will drop soon. ;):o

[Ultra Mackness]

This is a fantastic figure and it's great that people who missed out last time will get the chance to pick one up, but I really hope that it lists for a lot less than $250.

[lancalot]

i think 250 is abit too much for this figure also .... for a re-release of an old mold ...

[nexusnixx]

this will be the 3rd run of the grimlock

the takaratomy version, then the comic version, then hasbro and now this?

[GoktimusPrime]

i think 250 is abit too much for this figure also .... for a re-release of an old mold ...
Agree 100%. IMHO the original 13650JPY/$150 price for MP Grimlock was already pretty damn expensive. I skipped the TakTOM version because I found it hard to justifying paying that much for what I consider to be a relatively simplistic (albeit still quite nice) Masterpiece toy, plus shipping... plus we had a baby on the way so money was tight. :o Then when the Hasbro version came out here for about the same RRP as the TakTOM version, I scooped it up. Still pricey, but at least I saved on having to pay for postage. :)

[maxirod]

TT MP08 had an unofficial re-run early last year without any announcement. Alot of retailers in Asia got their hands on it, it was for about $130-140.

[Sinnertwin]

TT MP08 had an unofficial re-run early last year without any announcement. Alot of retailers in Asia got their hands on it, it was for about $130-140.

:confused: i don't recall a release outside of 2009 MPO8, 2009 MP08X and the Hasbro 2010 versions. Which stores?

[nexusnixx]

Hiya all
Just checking does this new release cone together with Takaratomy Henkei Voyager Class Jetfire?

Got notification from a retailer that it does cone together with the upcoming mp grimlock

[millhouse]

I ordered this one from Luna. Figure I might as well get a new one for the cost of getting a loose one from the original run.

[ohmic12]

I ordered this one from Luna.


Whats the luna address tried to google it but couldnt find it?

[millhouse]

Whats the luna address tried to google it but couldnt find it?

Sorry, it's Lunar. www.lunartoystore.com The operator is pretty active on TW2005 as well, so you might want to check there.

[ohmic12]

Sorry, it's Lunar. www.lunartoystore.com The operator is pretty active on TW2005 as well, so you might want to check there.

Cheers just had a look gutted that they are out of grimlocks :eek:

[Sinnertwin]

Robotkingdom preorders are now available


Takara Cybertron con Exclusive Masterpiece Grimlock & Henkei Skyfire (Jetfire) Set of 2. Pre-order.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFCC2013001&lang=us&CatID
$349.

Takara Cybertron Con Exclusive Henkei Skyfire (Jetfire). Pre-order.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFCC2013002&lang=us&CatID
$89.90

[griffin]

Too many expensive, fancy, limited edition figures coming out now... makes it a tease to those who can't afford any, or all the ones they want.

[drifand]

woah...I don't have a mp Grimlock but for that price I don't think a few nice characters on the box is going to make me bite either.

[Ultra Mackness]

They're offering skyfire seperate to grimlock but not offering grimlock seperate to skyfire?

[Trent]

Robotkingdom preorders are now available


Takara Cybertron con Exclusive Masterpiece Grimlock & Henkei Skyfire (Jetfire) Set of 2. Pre-order.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFCC2013001&lang=us&CatID
$349.

Takara Cybertron Con Exclusive Henkei Skyfire (Jetfire). Pre-order.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType&II=TFCC2013002&lang=us&CatID
$89.90

That's ridiculous. But this is the new business plan from Hasbro Asia. Re-Release popular characters at stupidly inflated prices.

[GoktimusPrime]

That's ridiculous. But this is the new business plan from Hasbro Asia. Re-Release popular characters at stupidly inflated prices.
...and that's why I'll be giving them a wiiide berth. ;)

I would've totally skipped YotS Omega Supreme too if Big W hadn't released it at an acceptable price. I don't find any of their toys worth importing thus far.

[Lint]

That's ridiculous. But this is the new business plan from Hasbro Asia. Re-Release popular characters at stupidly inflated prices.

As long as there are people willing to buy silly exclusives this strategy is perfectly sound.

Even if I did not already possess both toys I would find $349 for both very hard to swallow.

[drifand]

...and that's why I'll be giving them a wiiide berth. ;)

I would've totally skipped YotS Omega Supreme too if Big W hadn't released it at an acceptable price. I don't find any of their toys worth importing thus far.

I have to agree, I saw it on ebay and I gave that a missed, but when I found out BigW had it I bought it.

Saying that, if Year of the horse Optimus is at the price speculated, is still a no no for me. For those who missed it would be ok for them.

I find the Jetfire is priced okay but I would need a closer look to see if it justify paying $80+, the Grimlock is a stuff it for me as much I wanted one but I now it is not something I would pay so much more just because I missed it.

[Shirokaze]

At the RK price, definitely giving Grimlock a miss. Might wait and see what prices are like on an opened MIB example when I visit Akihabara at the end of November. :)

[serialmonkey]

For someone that doesn't already have a MP Grimlock though (and wants one), this isn't too bad a price is it ? - especially since the original MP-08 isn't easy to come by now.

Wonder if it will turn up on HLJ at a better price though .....

[GoktimusPrime]

For someone that doesn't already have a MP Grimlock though (and wants one), this isn't too bad a price is it ? - especially since the original MP-08 isn't easy to come by now.
It's more than double the original price by Australian RRP standards (which is already expensive as it is). This toy wasn't even really worth paying $150 for; as people have mentioned on the Favourite Masterpiece TF (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=16598) and MP Grimlock (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8585) review threads (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=3837), MP Grimlock is more of a MP from waist down, but the upper half of the toy is more G1 like and feels too simplistic for a Masterpiece level (and priced) figure.

The price of this toy does match the aftermarket price for MP Grimlock... but this isn't an aftermarket toy - it's a reissue. Just because the aftermarket price shoots up, doesn't mean the price of a reissue should. I mean, a loose complete G1 Fortress Maximus can go for over $1000 on the secondary market -- no idea how much a MISB G1 Fort Max would go for, but the Encore reissue was sold for $300 (or cheaper if you preordered). The cost of this reissue offers no cost advantage over getting a previous version off eBay. If anything you get more ripped off because you're paying an additional $49 for a Voyager. :eek: $349 for two toys with a combined original retail value of $199? Where's the incentive? If you're willing to throw $300 at an MP Grimlock you might as well just get an original off eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Takara-Transformers-Masterpiece-Generation-1-MP-08-Grimlock-MISB-/161081043497?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item25812daa29#ht_197wt_958) right now (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-MASTERPIECE-GRIMLOCK-G1-Dinobot-Universe-MISB-In-Hand-TRU-Excl-/261260626702?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3cd458cb0e#ht_974wt_758). ;)

[serialmonkey]

That's exactly the type of advice I was after. THANKS :-)

[drifand]

The price of this toy does match the aftermarket price for MP Grimlock... but this isn't an aftermarket toy - it's a reissue. ;)

Yup I would agree on this. I am surprised that as a reissue is priced so much higher and just slapping a fancy box art. What next? Gold lettering and bump it up $50 more?

And for the record I do not have Grimlock mp but I know I will not pay this much more for a reissue for sure. $10-$30 yeah okay, is bad enough. Is also not like Grimlock has a bonus here either so I am going to skip this piece if this is the RRP. I will wait for the original reissue at the normal prices for this case.
However someone who desperately wants it will buy it.