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Starscream77
6th March 2013, 01:16 PM
First look pictures are up...

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=26814

ILikeSoundwave
6th March 2013, 01:39 PM
First look pictures are up...

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=26814

Where's smokescreen?

gamblor916
6th March 2013, 01:45 PM
They look awesome, better than the lambos even.

Ultra Mackness
6th March 2013, 02:08 PM
Just saw this on BBTS! Absolutely fantastic and I'll be preordering both. Only concern is the shoulder cannons that are present on Bluestreak, but I don't see them on Prowl.

But I'm quibbling! These look great!

VERT
6th March 2013, 02:13 PM
I think im in love :D

Jaisun
6th March 2013, 02:26 PM
First look pictures are up...

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=26814

Uh oh... Just messed myself...

Prowl & Hound were my first ever TF's when I was 6, this is just too good for words!

Shirokaze
6th March 2013, 02:40 PM
Just... WOW. I'll certainly be buying both of these! :)

doublespy
6th March 2013, 02:51 PM
Damn these look great...I held out so hard not to buy "repaint characters" in G1 like Red Alert. Looks like I have to get Blue Streak maybe even Smokescreen..:(


Just saw this on BBTS! Absolutely fantastic and I'll be preordering both. Only concern is the shoulder cannons that are present on Bluestreak, but I don't see them on Prowl.

But I'm quibbling! These look great!
Prowl didn't have shoulder cannons in the cartoon.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080703125455/transformers/images/7/70/G1_Prowl_Bluestreak_Rollforit.jpg

griffin
6th March 2013, 02:58 PM
It's interesting to see that Prowl doesn't have the shoulder cannons on the JP version, since TakaraTomy seem to be more "Toy" Masterpiece, while Hasbro is the one who's more "cartoon" Masterpiece. As such, I'd expect Hasbro to leave off the shoulder cannons to match the cartoon... but among the Toy-themed TakaraTomy MPs, Prowl might look out of place without the missile launchers.

kurdt_the_goat
6th March 2013, 03:02 PM
Seems Smokescreen is delayed until 4th quarter (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11669&mode=retail)
Good for the wallet, and for hopes of substantial remoulding!

stencilator
6th March 2013, 03:11 PM
Ooooh they do look nice. It's a shame that my refined collection of masterpieces and alternators is slowly being replaced, but luckily it's for some worthy figures.

Keep 'em coming I say.

nofacej
6th March 2013, 03:15 PM
It's interesting to see that Prowl doesn't have the shoulder cannons on the JP version, since TakaraTomy seem to be more "Toy" Masterpiece, while Hasbro is the one who's more "cartoon" Masterpiece. As such, I'd expect Hasbro to leave off the shoulder cannons to match the cartoon... but among the Toy-themed TakaraTomy MPs, Prowl might look out of place without the missile launchers.

It wouldn't surprise me if the shoulder cannons flip up and you have the option to show or hide them.

Trent
6th March 2013, 05:00 PM
These look pretty awesome. It's a shame that the Datsun has dated so much. But I still pick up at least Smokescreen. BTW, where is he?



It's interesting to see that Prowl doesn't have the shoulder cannons on the JP version, since TakaraTomy seem to be more "Toy" Masterpiece, while Hasbro is the one who's more "cartoon" Masterpiece. As such, I'd expect Hasbro to leave off the shoulder cannons to match the cartoon... but among the Toy-themed TakaraTomy MPs, Prowl might look out of place without the missile launchers.
I think you have that round the wrong way Griff,

Takara = cartoon
Hasbro = Toy.

Bidoofdude
6th March 2013, 05:08 PM
They do look pretty cool, but I'll still pass for now. We're getting the Autobot Car lineup done fairly quickly.;):cool:

canofwhoopass_87
6th March 2013, 06:42 PM
Wow! So true to G1. It's like they've been taken straight out of the cartoons. Like the look of these much more than Red Alert/Sideswipe

Lord_Zed
6th March 2013, 06:50 PM
Wow, these guys look awesome and continue the aesthetic established with Lambor and Alert. Prowl is more or less my first Autobot and Transformer, technically Seaspray also has claim to that title, but he was more of a random gift.

I'm not surprised they didn't include the missile launchers given they are going for show accuracy. It will be interesting to see how much that re-tool Smokescreen to get him toonlike.


It's interesting to see that Prowl doesn't have the shoulder cannons on the JP version, since TakaraTomy seem to be more "Toy" Masterpiece, while Hasbro is the one who's more "cartoon" Masterpiece. As such, I'd expect Hasbro to leave off the shoulder cannons to match the cartoon... but among the Toy-themed TakaraTomy MPs, Prowl might look out of place without the missile launchers.

I think this got reversed around the time MP Grimlock came out. The latest TakTom MP's have features like Alert's fake shoulder wheels to make them look more toon like. Whenever I pick up my Lambor, Alert or Soundwave I can hear the G1 cartoon theme in my head.

kup
6th March 2013, 07:14 PM
Very impressive. Definitely on the agenda.

Robzy
6th March 2013, 07:47 PM
In. Love.

:eek::eek:

doublespy
6th March 2013, 07:53 PM
I think you have that round the wrong way Griff,

Takara = cartoon
Hasbro = Toy.

Agreed. The color choice on Habsro Optimus' Roller, Hasbro Thundercracker deco, Hasbro Soundwave's yellow visor are some of the examples:)

crankcase76
6th March 2013, 09:29 PM
OMG! Thankfully I have already pre-ordered all of them so won't be missing out on these guys at all.:D

GoktimusPrime
6th March 2013, 10:11 PM
So... should I pre-order these suckers now or wait for Hasbro versions? Cos on one hand I don't want to get the TakTOM versions and then later find out Hasbro's releasing 'em at a much cheaper price like what happened to Soundwave... but then on the other hand, I've heard rumours that Hasbro don't have the licensing for these vehicles so they may not be able to release these MPs at all. Hmm... I'm erring on the side of TakTOM. Especially if I can get a good preorder discount (e.g. I ended up saving a LOT of money by pre-ordering MP Soundwave and the Cassettes -- I paid $45 more than the Hasbro RRP whereas I would have paid $200 more if I'd paid regular TakTOM RRP).

P.S.: Just checked Amazon Japan... no search results found...

Tober
7th March 2013, 01:25 AM
No Japanese online retailers I know of have put up pre-orders yet.

I wouldn't count on a Hasbro release for there guys... :confused:

griffin
7th March 2013, 01:34 AM
I think you have that round the wrong way Griff,

Takara = cartoon
Hasbro = Toy.

Ooops... :o

Hursticon
7th March 2013, 04:25 AM
No Japanese online retailers I know of have put up pre-orders yet.

Yeah I'm waiting for them too ;); Seeing these photos have really made me reconsider my previous stance :eek:, I'm not really a fan of Prowl & Co (That's not to say I dislike them though :)) but these just look like excellent toys and who could turn down a Transforming Datto? :D

1AZRAEL1
7th March 2013, 05:18 AM
I like. But i don't feel i want to pay the price bbts is charging. Might look elsewhere. But i definitely want these 3.

Ultra Mackness
7th March 2013, 05:30 AM
Try Robot kingdom - $59.99 each but another $20 postage.

1AZRAEL1
7th March 2013, 05:51 AM
Try Robot kingdom - $59.99 each but another $20 postage.

Still cheaper than bbts. I think they are 79 before postage.

Ultra Mackness
7th March 2013, 07:55 AM
I guess BBTS are looking to cover their own freight costs (even though they'll bulk order) with that as a start price. I started ordering items from RK as I figure they're manufactured in Asia, why buy an item that's already been shipped from Asia to the US then back to Oz? Might as well just ship from Asia to Oz.

kaiden
7th March 2013, 09:31 AM
As soon as I had in hand my Sideswipe and Red Alert I knew these 3 could only be made with the same quality of engineering.

As amazing Soundwave is, I've found that I prefer to play more with Sideswipe & Red Alert, & it will be the same the 3 Datsuns.

Iriorne
7th March 2013, 02:38 PM
These are looking pretty good. I've never really been a fan of Autobot cars but I was incredibly impressed at the engineering when I finally caved and picked up MP-12. Even with the figure in hand it's hard to believe they somehow managed to cram the entire robot inside the car. Looks like the elbows are double jointed and the ankles have a reasonable range of tilt too, which were the main issues I had with MP-12. :)

Looking at Prowl in Robot mode, it looks like they've changed his hand mould slightly from MP-12/14. Prowl's index finger looks like it sticks out a fraction now, like it's resting on a trigger. The fingers still look like they're moulded as a single non-articulated block but if this is the case it might help his hands look a bit more dynamic.

5FDP
7th March 2013, 09:50 PM
Prowl is my favourite Autobot next to Grimlock and Tracks, so this is an easy buy for me. Preorder............. placed :cool: (that's my Fathers Day present shopping done :p)

GoktimusPrime
7th March 2013, 10:57 PM
Try Robot kingdom - $59.99 each but another $20 postage.
Hmmm... I might wait for Amazon Japan. I got MP Lambor from them for $50 + $14 postage.

Lord_Zed
7th March 2013, 11:21 PM
So... should I pre-order these suckers now or wait for Hasbro versions? Cos on one hand I don't want to get the TakTOM versions and then later find out Hasbro's releasing 'em at a much cheaper price like what happened to Soundwave... but then on the other hand, I've heard rumours that Hasbro don't have the licensing for these vehicles so they may not be able to release these MPs at all. Hmm... I'm erring on the side of TakTOM. Especially if I can get a good preorder discount (e.g. I ended up saving a LOT of money by pre-ordering MP Soundwave and the Cassettes -- I paid $45 more than the Hasbro RRP whereas I would have paid $200 more if I'd paid regular TakTOM RRP).

P.S.: Just checked Amazon Japan... no search results found...

Same old collectors conundrum, you can buy it now and risk kicking yourself when a cheaper one comes out, or it gets discounted. Or you can wait for the toy to meet your preferred price, but risk kicking yourself because you missed out.

Welcome to collecting. :p

I guess it all depends how much you want the toy, as always.

Sinnertwin
7th March 2013, 11:24 PM
To qoute the late, great Macho Man, Oooohhh Yeeeaahh!

Ultra Mackness
8th March 2013, 05:53 AM
Hmmm... I might wait for Amazon Japan. I got MP Lambor from them for $50 + $14 postage.

I seem to remember there being a hassle with Amazon Japan shipping TFs to Oz? From memory they'll ship books and dvd/bluray but not TFs?

Either way, for the sake of $16 I'm happy with a preorder from RK. Although I must say I will be curious to see if there will be an extra accesory and what that might be. I'm only a little concerned about Prowl's currently absent shoulder launchers. If Takara sticks with cartoon accuracy, they might not be present at all, and I don't want to have to fork out to a 3rd party, nor do I want to have to potentially pick up a later, toy accurate Hasbro release.

Now for pure speculation, what would be the odds of Hasbro releasing the three Datsuns in one pack for say $150? Just thinking of upcoming Soundwave and minions being grouped together, why bot for the Datsuns?

Wheelie
8th March 2013, 06:47 AM
Very nice!

griffin
8th March 2013, 10:29 AM
I seem to remember there being a hassle with Amazon Japan shipping TFs to Oz? From memory they'll ship books and dvd/bluray but not TFs?

That is true. Amazon.jp do not ship toys outside of Japan. The casual mention of it makes it sound like it is possible for us, but the posting should have mentioned that those toy items are purchased by a Japanese resident, who then has to post it onto Australia.
The rest of us have to resort to more expensive sources, so it isn't very sporting to have those cheaper prices at Amazon.jp shown off all the time, to those of us who have to pay more. :mad:

Tober
8th March 2013, 10:53 AM
Anime Export has them for about $40 (30% off) but their pre-order sold out straight away. :mad:

Looks like getting these at a decent price is going to be tough. :(

BigTransformerTrev
8th March 2013, 01:06 PM
Looks like getting these at a decent price is going to be tough. :(

That's why I only got Sideswipe and not Red Alert. Though I loved Sideswipe, I didn't believe the quality of the figure or the size for that matter warranted the price tag so was not willing to pay that amount again for a recolour of the figure, even if it was Red Alert whom I have a soft spot for. I may find myself in the same position with these guys - perhaps just buying Prowl but not the other two (unless my finances magically improve)

Iriorne
8th March 2013, 01:23 PM
Anime Export has them for about $40 (30% off) but their pre-order sold out straight away. :mad:

I'm pretty sure I checked yesterday and didn't see them there so they must have been added very recently. Maybe they were added to the system with 0 stock, hence "sold out"? Worth keeping an eye on.

Bartrim
8th March 2013, 02:30 PM
Yup I will be buying my first MP figure:)

Tober
8th March 2013, 04:20 PM
Prowl (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47923) and Streak (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47924) are up at HLJ at 20% off (about $50).

gamblor916
8th March 2013, 04:48 PM
Thanks Tober. Pre-orders made.

Make use of the private warehouse function to guarantee your purchase.

kurdt_the_goat
8th March 2013, 07:08 PM
Couple new pics, very small one in there seems to show Prowl has the shoulder cannons too!

Edit: Actually the listings have appeared on Amazon with large pics of everything below! They look perfect!
Prowl (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP-17-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB/dp/B00BQRKUF6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362730206&sr=8-1) Bluestreak (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP-18-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF/dp/B00BQRKX76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362730154&sr=8-1)

http://i.imgur.com/VNXyrhN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/odUQ9kb.jpg

Hursticon
8th March 2013, 07:10 PM
Prowl (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47923) and Streak (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47924) are up at HLJ at 20% off (about $50).


Thanks Tober. Pre-orders made.

Make use of the private warehouse function to guarantee your purchase.

Indeed Many thanks Tober! ;), is it necessary to Warehouse them though Gamblor? - I've not had any issues but has a precedent been set has it? :eek:

Also, thanks to TFSource (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151307081076711.1073741843.100983336710&type=3&l=b598173bb2), these:
(Damn it! Just beaten by Kurdt! :p)

Prowl

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/426443_10151307082021711_569720380__zps8c29972e.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/529723_10151307081991711_2114786693_zpsc5873034.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/69200_10151307081976711_1683170754__zpsbf5338cf.jp g



Bluestreak

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/421865_10151307081561711_1495820384_zps7daa892b.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/487801_10151307082056711_54262722_n_zps02e214be.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/482244_10151307082086711_153370909__zps36cd52ff.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/577900_10151307081901711_366636500__zpsee96c3f5.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/625458_10151307081946711_537725748__zps902e0d62.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/733909_10151307081571711_457111879__zpsbfa68af0.jp g



Size Comparison

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/312699_10151307081566711_1814131137_zps87b7640d.jp g

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/486488_10151307082111711_176935041__zps5ce25c61.jp g

Bidoofdude
8th March 2013, 07:23 PM
Different helmet crests! NICE!!!:cool:;)

kurdt_the_goat
8th March 2013, 07:27 PM
If they stick with the cars until at least Jazz & Hound are done i'm thinking i won't have a need for my Henkei/Classics anymore! They're awesome toys in their own right still but just seem to pale in comparison now.

gamblor916
8th March 2013, 07:27 PM
So sweet! Bigger pics are much appreciated. These are the masterpiece toys I've been wanting for so long. Can't wait for Smokescreen.


Indeed Many thanks Tober! ;), is it necessary to Warehouse them though Gamblor? - I've not had any issues but has a precedent been set has it? :eek:


Well I've never had any issues with HLJ but I wouldn't want to tempt fate.

kurdt_the_goat
8th March 2013, 07:46 PM
Man, it is a testament to how awesome the G1 alt modes are that they almost look identical to these Masterpieces! Their stiff robot modes are obviously no comparison, but still!

kaiden
8th March 2013, 07:52 PM
damn those look amazing. maybe i should sell my henkei collection >_>

nexusnixx
8th March 2013, 07:54 PM
amazing pictures..... i am so buying these!!!

Magnus
8th March 2013, 07:59 PM
Must... resist... need to... save... money... and... shelf space...

Out of curiosity, any word on whether or not these are licensed by Nissan?

Tober
8th March 2013, 08:41 PM
They are up on Amiami.



Out of curiosity, any word on whether or not these are licensed by Nissan?

They would have to be. Takara had the Nissan license for Alternity and the GTs.

doublespy
8th March 2013, 08:49 PM
They are up on Amiami.



Cheers for the heads up. Been waiting for Amiami to list these. Thought they'd have 26% off but oh well..:D

Ode to a Grasshopper
8th March 2013, 09:23 PM
Really looking forward to that Prowl.

Hursticon
8th March 2013, 09:48 PM
Well I've never had any issues with HLJ but I wouldn't want to tempt fate.

Hmm, fair point - I pay with CC so I'm hoping that because they immediately take the funds out when the figures arrive in their stock warehouse, that I've got a bit of a safety net. :o


Out of curiosity, any word on whether or not these are licensed by Nissan?


They would have to be. Takara had the Nissan license for Alternity and the GTs.

If you take a close look at their bonnets, you should see that there is a tiny badge in front of the Autobot Insignia; I can't quite tell if it says Nissan/Datsun or their Japanese script equivalent, but I reckon they're certainly making use of the license. ;):cool:
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/71jTFi4POVL_zps039c7549.jpg
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/71vvXG5PzzL_zps3097066e.jpg

GoktimusPrime
8th March 2013, 10:39 PM
Really looking forward to that Prowl.
For Odie and anyone else who can --- Amazon Japan is currently listing MP Prowl and Bluestreak for pre-order with the earlybird discount of 5098JPY (16% (992JPY) off RRP) -- about AU$53. It's marginally more expensive than Lambor's preorder price (4436JPY/$46) and Amazon doesn't seem to be offering any bonus exclusive accessories, so comparatively it seems to be poorer value for money. :( But I don't think I can find them cheaper. :rolleyes: I don't mind paying a bit more if these toys turn out to be better than Lambor though. (here's hoping) :)

doublespy
8th March 2013, 10:47 PM
The badge seems to be the Fairlady "Z" logo

http://www.new-datsun-parts.com/images/zem15aa.jpg

Tober
8th March 2013, 10:52 PM
But I don't think I can find them cheaper. :rolleyes: I don't mind paying a bit more if these toys turn out to be better than Lambor though. (here's hoping) :)

Did you try looking..?

HLJ.com have them for ¥4,640. Hobby Search (1999.co.jp/eng) for ¥4,930. etoysjapan.com for $47.

Amiami and Anime Export have closed pre-orders, so you might want to be quick about it... ;)

Hursticon
8th March 2013, 11:07 PM
The badge seems to be the Fairlady "Z" logo

*snip*

Oh bloody well done dude! :eek: - I'm dead certain that's exactly what we can see on the bonnets! ;):cool:
(I love that you sourced a pic from a Datto site too! :D)

GoktimusPrime
8th March 2013, 11:14 PM
I'd checked HLJ and Amiami earlier this week, and I couldn't find them listed there. I hadn't checked today. Amiami's sold out... I just preordered Prowl, but for some reason it's not letting me pre-order Bluestreak (odd). (o_O) Weeeeiiiiirrrd...

Thanks for the heads up, Tober! :)

Edit: Oh wait, my Streak order just came in after several browser refreshes... oh... I've pre-ordered 2 MP Streaks... (I put another order in when the first one wouldn't show up, even after refreshing my browser 2-3 times). <cancels spare Streak> Okay, 1 Prowl, 1 Streak... better!

Tober
8th March 2013, 11:18 PM
I'd checked HLJ and Amiami earlier this week, and I couldn't find them listed there. I hadn't checked today. Amiami's sold out... I just preordered Prowl, but for some reason it's not letting me pre-order Bluestreak (odd). (o_O) Weeeeiiiiirrrd...

They both listed them today.

Dunno what's happening with Streak, it's still available to me. LINK (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47924)

Hursticon
8th March 2013, 11:24 PM
I'd checked HLJ and Amiami earlier this week, and I couldn't find them listed there. I hadn't checked today. Amiami's sold out... I just preordered Prowl, but for some reason it's not letting me pre-order Bluestreak (odd). (o_O) Weeeeiiiiirrrd...


They both listed them today.

Yeah it's to my understanding that AmiAmi only ever orders a very small amount of stock compared to other Online stores, Japanese or otherwise. :o

When I ordered through HLJ earlier this afternoon though, I had a mini-freakout myself as I finished the checkout procedure on both figures but it took about 5 or so minutes for the order to actually show up under my account! :eek: - All was good though so I think HLJ might just be receiving a lot of traffic ATM Goki. :)

GoktimusPrime
8th March 2013, 11:26 PM
They both listed them today.

Dunno what's happening with Streak, it's still available to me. LINK (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT47924)
Yeah, I found the page, but it wasn't appearing on my ... cart... thing... so I ordered it again... and then later it appeared twice, so I cancelled one. Gah... I'm so not used to online shopping! :o :o

Hursticon
8th March 2013, 11:35 PM
Yeah, I found the page, but it wasn't appearing on my ... cart... thing... so I ordered it again... and then later it appeared twice, so I cancelled one. Gah... I'm so not used to online shopping! :o :o

Normally there isn't such a delay between confirmation of purchase & said purchase appearing under your account, not from my experience with HLJ anyway, so like I mentioned earlier dude it's likely due to traffic (Pun not intended :p). ;)

Iriorne
8th March 2013, 11:42 PM
Yeah it's to my understanding that AmiAmi only ever orders a very small amount of stock compared to other Online stores, Japanese or otherwise. :o

I wonder why this is the case? It certainly explains why AmiAmi seem to be out of stock on everything (or maybe just everything I look at). If you know from past experience that these things are going to sell quickly, why sell only a few when you could sell lots? Even HLJ doesn't seem to get heaps in, at least compared to the US sites as they were out of stock on MP-13 preorders at least as far back as September last year. They do have a '10 per person' limit on Prowl and Bluestreak though, so maybe they've learned?

Anyway, I got an order in with HLJ earlier without any troubles. :) I don't think it matters whether you use the private warehouse or not. I've not used their new system but from what I've read on their site it sounds like it's only a virtual warehouse - they just keep a reserve level of stock on hand rather than physically separating and storing your purchases.

kurdt_the_goat
9th March 2013, 01:03 AM
For Odie and anyone else who can --- Amazon Japan is currently listing MP Prowl and Bluestreak for pre-order with the earlybird discount of 5098JPY (16% (992JPY) off RRP) -- about AU$53. It's marginally more expensive than Lambor's preorder price (4436JPY/$46) and Amazon doesn't seem to be offering any bonus exclusive accessories, so comparatively it seems to be poorer value for money. :( But I don't think I can find them cheaper. :rolleyes: I don't mind paying a bit more if these toys turn out to be better than Lambor though. (here's hoping) :)

Almost always, when Amazon first lists a toy the discount isn't much, but up until the release it'll fluctuate quite a bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go down to what Lambor cost. I'm sure you know with pre-order price guarantee, if the price drops before it comes out, they'll reduce it for your order automatically.

There's also not much risk if the price doesn't go down, because orders can be cancelled right up until it's being prepared, with no ill-effects. Same can't be said for Amiami, if you do cancel preorders too often, they'll black list you!


I wonder why this is the case? It certainly explains why AmiAmi seem to be out of stock on everything (or maybe just everything I look at). If you know from past experience that these things are going to sell quickly, why sell only a few when you could sell lots? Even HLJ doesn't seem to get heaps in, at least compared to the US sites as they were out of stock on MP-13 preorders at least as far back as September last year. They do have a '10 per person' limit on Prowl and Bluestreak though, so maybe they've learned?

I think they take preorders based on estimates of how many they expect to get, and then source it from multiple distributors at some point before release.

Even if you order when something is in stock, they may cancel it if it turns out they can't get enough of them for everyone who's ordered. I had a scare recently with a game i pre-ordered, they sent me 3 emails saying they were trying to find it through distributor 1, 2 and 3, before finally telling me they were successful in sourcing the item (due out March 20).

kaiden
9th March 2013, 03:16 AM
i preordered from HLJ like everyone else... but the coins... we won't get the coins... i'm so torn

5FDP
9th March 2013, 11:02 AM
Can't see that anyone else has mentioned this but I hope they fix-up the spelling mistake on Prowl's doors - 'Highway Patorol'.

doublespy
9th March 2013, 11:23 AM
Can't see that anyone else has mentioned this but I hope they fix-up the spelling mistake on Prowl's doors - 'Highway Patorol'.

:eek::eek:
Please someone tweet Hasui Shogo before it's too late!:D

Ma5imu5
9th March 2013, 11:38 AM
Normally there isn't such a delay between confirmation of purchase & said purchase appearing under your account, not from my experience with HLJ anyway, so like I mentioned earlier dude it's likely due to traffic (Pun not intended :p). ;)

I ordered them last night (first time using HLJ, wanted to order from amiami but they already sold out on Prowl when I checked). I have order acknowledgment sent to my email but no order confirmation yet. And I can't log in to my account too. So the question is will I get my MPs?

lone_rr
9th March 2013, 12:15 PM
how much is shipping from hlj to australia?

kaiden
9th March 2013, 03:38 PM
how much is shipping from hlj to australia?

http://www.hlj.com/helpcenter/shipping.html

i would say about $20 for SAL and probably around $30+ for EMS. The current exchange rate is really good 1 AUD = 98.2566 JPY (xe.com)

GoktimusPrime
9th March 2013, 07:12 PM
In my experience SAL shouldn't cost you much more than $15. EMS would be pricier... I normally don't use it though. :p (I'm making an exception for Fort Max though... postage is gonna be a killer on that baby! ;))

Hursticon
9th March 2013, 10:07 PM
I ordered them last night (first time using HLJ, wanted to order from amiami but they already sold out on Prowl when I checked). I have order acknowledgment sent to my email but no order confirmation yet. And I can't log in to my account too. So the question is will I get my PMs?

Hmm... I'm not sure why you can't log into your account dude, that's something you'll have to contact HLJ about but as for email confirmation; that email you've mentioned is exactly what I've received every time I've Preordered through them. :o

The next piece of correspondence you're likely to receive from them is when the MPs have arrived instock & they're seeking your confirmation to go ahead with the payment processing, or if you're paying via Credit Card the notice will be that they've deducted the funds from your card & will follow up with postage notification. ;):cool:


In my experience SAL shouldn't cost you much more than $15. EMS would be pricier... I normally don't use it though. :p (I'm making an exception for Fort Max though... postage is gonna be a killer on that baby! ;))

I hear you there Goki, as I'll be shipping mine via EMS too when the big bugger arrives in stock. :D
(MAN I can't wait for him to arrive at my doorstep! :eek::D)

canofwhoopass_87
9th March 2013, 10:55 PM
Can't see that anyone else has mentioned this but I hope they fix-up the spelling mistake on Prowl's doors - 'Highway Patorol'.


:eek::eek:
Please someone tweet Hasui Shogo before it's too late!:D

Nah let's not. It could mean some ozformers may be able to get their hands on some rare spelling error variant MP Prowls :p

Tetsuwan Convoy
10th March 2013, 01:40 AM
In my experience SAL shouldn't cost you much more than $15. EMS would be pricier... I normally don't use it though. :p (I'm making an exception for Fort Max though... postage is gonna be a killer on that baby! ;))

Sal has a size restriction, I doubt you could get Fort Max SAL posted in the first place.
It can be very slow at times though.

I'd be all up for a patorol car though :D

Ultra Mackness
10th March 2013, 10:04 AM
Can't. Unsee. Patorol!!

The ocd collector in me hopes that this is an advanced prototype mistake and the actual items have the correctly spelt word, but...

It would certainly be an interesting variation, and let's face it, MP Prowl looks awesome!

GoktimusPrime
10th March 2013, 11:19 AM
Can't. Unsee. Patorol!!
Better not look here then (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/115359-4/Heinlad03.JPG). :p

CYBERTORON!! ;)



(MAN I can't wait for him to arrive at my doorstep! :eek::D)
He will be your doorstep! :p

Ma5imu5
10th March 2013, 11:50 AM
[QUOTE=Hursticon;345661]Hmm... I'm not sure why you can't log into your account dude, that's something you'll have to contact HLJ about but as for email confirmation; that email you've mentioned is exactly what I've received every time I've Preordered through them. :o

The next piece of correspondence you're likely to receive from them is when the MPs have arrived instock & they're seeking your confirmation to go ahead with the payment processing, or if you're paying via Credit Card the notice will be that they've deducted the funds from your card & will follow up with postage notification. ;):cool:

Hey Hursticon thanks for the info. Currently in the process of contacting HLJ to get my logging in fix.

Ultra Mackness
10th March 2013, 05:08 PM
Better not look here then (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/115359-4/Heinlad03.JPG). :p

CYBERTORON!! ;)


Noooooooooo :) the horroror!

Does this mean that since there is precedent that there's a good chance that Prowl will remain part of the highway patorol?

Ploughmans Lunch
13th March 2013, 12:24 AM
There should be an e-hobby version based on the G1 'movie' Barricade that Guido Guidi did (G1 Prowl with movieverse Barricade deco).

Can't think of what else (apart from obvious candidates) it could be redone as so I dunno.

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 08:24 AM
There should be an e-hobby version based on the G1 'movie' Barricade that Guido Guidi did (G1 Prowl with movieverse Barricade deco).

This would be utterly & amazingly awesome if it were to be realised! - I'd grab one in a heartbeat! :D:cool:

GoktimusPrime
13th March 2013, 08:40 AM
...I wouldn't. G1 Barricade was an F1 racer, not a police car. I'm not fond of most G1 toys redecoed in their movie colours or movie toys redecoed in G1 colours (the only exception was Protect Ironhide, but that was cos it was also his Diaclone colours - Emergency Ratchet looks stoopid :rolleyes:). G1 coloured Movie Jazz looks okay, but not great IMO (and certainly not worth the fifty buck price tag TRU chucked on it)

MP Prowl in G1 Barricade colours? Might work as a ltd exclusive -- I reckon people would by it just cos it'd look so awful! (hey, it worked for BotCon Thundercracker, didn't it? :p)

kaiden
13th March 2013, 08:42 AM
This would be utterly & amazingly awesome if it were to be realised! - I'd grab one in a heartbeat! :D:cool:

who wouldn't?!?

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 08:44 AM
...I wouldn't. G1 Barricade was an F1 racer, not a police car. I'm not fond of most G1 toys redecoed in their movie colours or movie toys redecoed in G1 colours (the only exception was Protect Ironhide, but that was cos it was also his Diaclone colours - Emergency Ratchet looks stoopid :rolleyes:). G1 coloured Movie Jazz looks okay, but not great IMO (and certainly not worth the fifty buck price tag TRU chucked on it)

MP Prowl in G1 Barricade colours? Might work as a ltd exclusive -- I reckon people would by it just cos it'd look so awful! (hey, it worked for BotCon Thundercracker, didn't it? :p)

I don't think you're quite getting the picture Goki:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/1326929119_g1_barricade_by_guidoart_zpsb3b64838.jp g

GoktimusPrime
13th March 2013, 09:45 AM
Won't somebody think of the children^continuity! :eek: Officially making G1 Barricade as a police car repaint of Prowl could potentially contradict G1 canon! Unless the tech spec somehow explained how Barricade changed from being a Micromaster F1 racer to becoming a police car. Two G1 Decepticons called Barricade?!? Pah! That's as preposterous as say, having 2 completely unrelated Transformers in the G1 Continuity Family called Cross (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crosscut)cut (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crosscut_(Decepticon)), Bar (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barrage)rage (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barrage_(Micromaster)), Sky (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sky_High) High (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sky_High_(Micromaster)), Light (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lightspeed)speed (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lightspeed_(Motorvator)) or Eagle (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Eagle_Eye) Eye (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Eagle_Eye_(G2))!! :p :p :p :p :p

...I do like how Guidi gave that Barricade a distinctive head/face. :)

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 09:52 AM
...I do like how Guidi gave that Barricade a distinctive head/face. :)

So disregarding G1's infallible cannon & any possible repercussions it could incur :p:D; would you consider purchasing an MP Prowl mold repaint/retool, reflective of the above artwork? ;):cool:

GoktimusPrime
13th March 2013, 12:01 PM
So disregarding G1's infallible cannon & any possible repercussions it could incur :p:D; would you consider purchasing an MP Prowl mold repaint/retool, reflective of the above artwork? ;):cool:
If I like the MP Prowl mould enough, and the price was right, then sure why not. ;)

kaiden
13th March 2013, 12:13 PM
I will like the MP Prowl mould, and the price was right, then sure why not. ;)

fixed. :p

sideswipes brother
13th March 2013, 07:23 PM
Plastic tyres again!!! No sale.:mad:

Trent
13th March 2013, 08:00 PM
Plastic tyres again!!! No sale.:mad:

That's being a bit precious dont you think?

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 09:24 PM
If I like the MP Prowl mould enough, and the price was right, then sure why not. ;)

Excellent! - I just think it's a really excellent reuse of a character model that swaps allegiances quite effectively. ;):)


fixed. :p

LOL :p:D


Plastic tyres again!!! No sale.:mad:

Really man? - You'd miss out on what looks to be an excellent figure & interpretation of a character, based solely on the composition of its tyres? :o:confused:

Lint
13th March 2013, 10:08 PM
Really man? - You'd miss out on what looks to be an excellent figure & interpretation of a character, based solely on the composition of its tyres? :o:confused:

To be honest plastic tyres (and size) is the reason why I did not jump all over the Takara MP Lambor. However lessons were learnt on my part and I have put in a preorder for Prowl and Streak. :rolleyes:

GoktimusPrime
13th March 2013, 10:08 PM
fixed. :p
My experience with MP Lambor has made me a bit wary of MP Autobot Cars now... I sincerely hope that they will be a lot better though... I'll decide after I get them. :o


That's being a bit precious dont you think?

Really man? - You'd miss out on what looks to be an excellent figure & interpretation of a character, based solely on the composition of its tyres? :o:confused:
While the composition the tyres don't personally bother me so much, I can understand why some people might be put off by them, especially given the rather hefty price tag of Prowl and Streak. They're almost the same price as Binaltechs, but BTs have rubber tyres, die-cast metal and arguably more impressive engineering as highly detailed scale miniature cars. BTs packed amazing amounts of value for what you paid... whereas I find MP Lambor was only just worth the preorder discount price, and not even worth full RRP. :o


Excellent! - I just think it's a really excellent reuse of a character model that swaps allegiances quite effectively. ;):)
Yeah, but I'm still not sure if I'd like it as much as a proper G1 accurate Barricade though. Because to me, the Masterpiece line is meant to be about recreating the original versions of G1 characters, and using modern engineering to 'update' them at a high end level, and also make them look more like their cartoon model. Now of course, Barricade didn't appear in the cartoon, but they could make an MP Barricade more accurate to his card/tech specs art (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/34/G1BarricadeBoxart.jpg). :) I personally would rather see MPs redecoed as stuff that already exists in G1 canon over giving preference to 'fanon'. :o JMHO. :)

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 10:26 PM
While the composition the tyres don't personally bother me so much, I can understand why some people might be put off by them, especially given the rather hefty price tag of Prowl and Streak. They're almost the same price as Binaltechs, but BTs have rubber tyres, die-cast metal and arguably more impressive engineering as highly detailed scale miniature cars. BTs packed amazing amounts of value for what you paid... whereas I find MP Lambor was only just worth the preorder discount price, and not even worth full RRP. :o

We're also talking about 2 totally different economical periods though and, IMO, the BTs/Alternators might've had Die-cast & Rubber but also had noticeably poorer engineering and articulation. :confused:

The BTs/Alternators always struck me as a line of accurate scale model cars that just happened to transform into robots; conversely the current iteration of the MP line is clearly aiming for an accurate composite of both show & toy character models, along with Fun & Manageable transformations - they're streamlined, articulate & lively figures in comparison. ;):)

So yeah, my point wasn't aiming to question people's willingness to pay the price for the MP figures but rather how a singular minute facet of a figure (Such as tyre composition) could deter someone entirely, especially in the face of everything else that the figure does so right/well. :cool:


Yeah, but I'm still not sure if I'd like it as much as a proper G1 accurate Barricade though. Because to me, the Masterpiece line is meant to be about recreating the original versions of G1 characters, and using modern engineering to 'update' them at a high end level, and also make them look more like their cartoon model. Now of course, Barricade didn't appear in the cartoon, but they could make an MP Barricade more accurate to his card/tech specs art (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/34/G1BarricadeBoxart.jpg). :) I personally would rather see MPs redecoed as stuff that already exists in G1 canon over giving preference to 'fanon'. :o JMHO. :)

So you would say that these feelings extended to both Tigertracks & Acid Storm then? :)

Hursticon
13th March 2013, 10:33 PM
To be honest plastic tyres (and size) is the reason why I did not jump all over the Takara MP Lambor. However lessons were learnt on my part and I have put in a preorder for Prowl and Streak. :rolleyes:

See now Size is something I can accept a little easier, as it's something that I know that can really lead someone to question the validity of the toy's overall worth - It's a more outstanding facet IMO. :cool:
(Baring in mind too prior research to the purchase of the figure, not saying you didn't but it's a factor I feel can be overlooked ;):))

GoktimusPrime
13th March 2013, 11:12 PM
IMO, the BTs/Alternators might've had Die-cast & Rubber but also had noticeably poorer engineering and articulation. :confused:

The BTs/Alternators always struck me as a line of accurate scale model cars that just happened to transform into robots; conversely the current iteration of the MP line is clearly aiming for an accurate composite of both show & toy character models, along with Fun & Manageable transformations - they're streamlined, articulate & lively figures in comparison. ;):)
Sure, both BTs and MPs are aiming at achieving different outcomes, but I find BTs to be better engineered. Let's compare BT and MP Lambor... BT Lambor is just as articulated as MP Lambor and he's bigger and bulkier too. BT Lambor's robot mode is also better constructed as he doesn't suffer from significant flaws like MP Lambor's shoulders being incapable of firmly locking into place... BT Lambor doesn't have parts popping out during play, and he can swing his legs forward without flashing his crotch at you. ;) The incorporation of the engine as the gun was clever, whereas MP Lambor's weapons really aren't incorporated into the vehicle mode. BT Lambor's vehicle mode is a near-perfect scale replica of a Dodge Viper... reflective wing mirrors, rack and pin steering, highly detailed interior with air con vents, steering wheel, gear stick, park brake, glovebox panel, airbag panels, door details, odometers/dashboard displays etc. Then you can flip up the bonnet and see the engine detail, and the boot opens too. MP Lambor's vehicle mode offers no more play value than G1 Sideswipe... only bigger. One might even argue that G1 Sideswipe's vehicle offers better features since it has rubber tyres, die cast metal parts, clear windows and a (Diaclone) driver's seat.

Now of course, to be fair to MP Lambor, it is true that aside from the different design objective, it also had a greater design challenge. BTs are designed to be toys in their own right with a distinguishable likeness to the G1 characters, but they weren't attempting to accurately mimic/imitate the G1 character's entire likeness - and worse still, their Floro Dery (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Floro_Dery)-based cartoon likeness... whose simplified designs make it an even greater design challenge. So in order to mimic all the "cheats" that the cartoon models do, the robot parts have to go somewhere in vehicle mode, and there's no where else to go but inside the vehicle. This makes it impractical (impossible) to give it a highly detailed interior like a BT, and giving it clear windows might have made it look unsightly. I don't dislike MP Lambor per se, but he is my least liked MP. I would actually like this toy a whole lot more if it weren't for the problem with the shoulders. :o


So yeah, my point wasn't aiming to question people's willingness to pay the price for the MP figures but rather how a singular minute facet of a figure (Such as tyre composition) could deter someone entirely, especially in the face of everything else that the figure does so right/well. :cool:
I intentionally skipped Universe Tankor because I couldn't stand the name. I later got Henkei Octane instead. ;)


So you would say that these feelings extended to both Tigertracks & Acid Storm then? :)
No, but these characters already exist in the G1 Continuity Family, and their colours harken back to stuff from the 80s -- Tigertrack is a reissue of Sideswipe in one of his Diaclone colours, and Acid Storm is based on a character who appeared in Season 1 of the G1 cartoon. They're not necessarily stuff that fans just pulled out of thin air. As I said on another thread, I wouldn't mind seeing MP Lambor being redecoed as MP Deep Cover and Clampdown, and I'd love to see an MP "Blizzard Storm." :) But I've never been massively fond of G1 characters repainted in movie colours*, nor movie characters redecoed in G1 colours**. :o

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*Except for Ironhide, but it's really because they happen to be his Diaclone colours.
**Except for G1 coloured movieverse "Rescue" Ratchet, but also because we do actually see the same kind of emergency vehicle in the first movie in that colour scheme (it's the scene where Lennox and his men have just returned to the U.S. and disembark from their plane, if you look in the background there's a G1 Ratchet coloured movie-Ratchet vehicle).

kaiden
13th March 2013, 11:45 PM
@Gok

I don't own BT Lambor, but looking at the google images... he looks crap, in robot mode. the car looks amazing but when transformed i want to throw it in the bin. the ugly panels all over behind him, those huge wheels on his shoulders and the front windscreen over his crotch... this is not aesthetically pleasing.

i actually play with MP Lambor more than Soundwave. he's smaller and is very easy to transform back and forth and i see what you have pointed out about his shoulders, but the ones on mine are quite tight and i don't have a problem manipulating his forearms into desired poses without the popping out issue.

I would point it out as a manufacturing defect as we know Laserbeak has huge issues with the tail fins.

honestly the only thing I fault MP Lambor is the wheels and lack of jetpack.

GoktimusPrime
14th March 2013, 12:02 AM
Here's (http://cliffbee.com/reviews/btswiper.php) a good review of BT Lambor. :)

kurdt_the_goat
14th March 2013, 01:20 AM
The diecast alone tends to make the BT's seem more worth the price, but as toys (elegance of transform and play) i think MP Lambor has it beat.

The Viper mould (fantastic as a car of course) is probably one of the least impressive of the BT robots - his beer gut is pretty ugly and proportionally looks all wrong cause of the tyres on his shoulders.

Surely the BT's feet and knees give you more trouble than MP Lambor's shoulders?! And are you seriously risking the beautiful diecast during play? Maybe the Alternator version.... :)

GoktimusPrime
14th March 2013, 10:45 AM
Surely the BT's feet and knees give you more trouble than MP Lambor's shoulders?!
Nope. BT Lambor's feet and knees don't dislocate or pop out when I play with the toy. As dirge's review states, the rear panels give sufficient clearance for the legs to move about without being impeded. So nobody else has experienced MP Lambor's shoulders dislocating during play? I don't mean 'careful posing while fiddling,' I mean proper toy play where you're making MP Lambor do full on fast action fight moves etc. (e.g. punching, arm swings etc.) ... if I pose the toy slowly and carefully, it stays in place, but when I play with the toy at full speed, it dislocates.

I'm not saying that the shoulders don't lock in - they do, but I find the locking to be inadequate. It's only sufficient to hold it in place for careful posing, but not enough for actual proper playing. For that reason I find MP Lambor to be my least liked MP (I don't hate it but), and I find BT Lambor offers superior play value. I've experienced this with my MP Lambor and someone else's MP Lambor too.


And are you seriously risking the beautiful diecast during play? Maybe the Alternator version.... :)
Only the paint apps on BT Smokescreen is highly susceptible to chipping. Takara improved their paint quality after Smokescreen and subsequent BTs have had more resilient paints that don't chip so easily. I once dropped BT Dead End on the footpath (I was playing with it while walking from Central Station)... no chipping. :) I didn't see the need to purchase an Alternator when I could get a BT for about the same price (Alternators retailed here for about the same price as BTs). The only exception was Wheeljack, cos I wanted to repaint Alt Wheeljack as Alt Slicer... but that never happened and I ended up selling my Alt Wheeljack. :p

kurdt_the_goat
14th March 2013, 01:11 PM
Regarding the BT's feet, i guess i meant how finicky he is to even stand up. You play on the carpet right? I imagine he spends most of his time playing dead :P

Agree to disagree!

llamatron
14th March 2013, 01:11 PM
Gok you are probably the only (employed) adult collector that actually smashes your toys in to each other and makes them do karate. This is a compliment, not an insult.

Most people aren't going to notice as many bits popping out as they will be a bit less rigorous.

GoktimusPrime
14th March 2013, 03:44 PM
Regarding the BT's feet, i guess i meant how finicky he is to even stand up. You play on the carpet right? I imagine he spends most of his time playing dead :P
Remember that when you play with a toy, it's "in motion," it's not the same as posing a toy for say taking action shots where the toy needs to stand balanced. When you play with at toy, it's being supported by your hands anyway, so you can pose them in whatever position you want. ;) I often have toys lying around when I'm not playing with them... it doesn't matter what the toy is doing when it's not "in play" (like an actor for a play being off stage). ;)


Gok you are probably the only (employed) adult collector that actually smashes your toys in to each other and makes them do karate. This is a compliment, not an insult.
I don't physically smash them together. I'm more like Andy from Toy Story[1]^Dark Helmet from Spaceballs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMxTFqPET5I)[2] (only without the rigorous physical contact :p). ;) I've never smashed my toys, not even as a kid (hence most of my childhood G1 collection survived relatively unscathed... those that are broken were mostly broken by other children! :mad:)


Most people aren't going to notice as many bits popping out as they will be a bit less rigorous.
That's fine, however as I said on the Do You Play w/ your TFs thread (http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=346127&postcount=107), I'm more appreciative of the opinions of collectors who are able to examine the play value of a toy - irrespective as to whether or not they are active players or not. :)

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[1]What I think I do
[2]What I actually do :p :p

llamatron
14th March 2013, 06:41 PM
That's fair enough - just from a design perspective the MPs won't be made to withstand as much punishment as, say, a RescueBot Hero (or whatever they're called).

griffin
16th March 2013, 02:42 AM
Some more images released (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp17-prowl-mp18-bluestreak-update/26885/), focussing on their weapons.

Ultra Mackness
16th March 2013, 09:03 AM
Great to see Prowl has rejoined the highway patrol :) Not convinced on the whole attach the rifle to the car roof thing though.

GoktimusPrime
16th March 2013, 01:14 PM
Not convinced on the whole attach the rifle to the car roof thing though.
Looks like they wanted to give Prowl a form of "attack mode". It does make it consistent with MP Lambor and Alert who also have the same feature. I don't mind it -- judging from this image of the vehicle mode without the weapon (http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/71jTFi4POVL._AA1100_.jpg), it doesn't seem like the gimmick affects the look of the vehicle mode. So if you really don't like it, just don't attach it. :) There doesn't appear to be any unsightly ports or anything like that.

Trent
16th March 2013, 02:21 PM
Looks like they wanted to give Prowl a form of "attack mode". It does make it consistent with MP Lambor and Alert who also have the same feature. I don't mind it -- judging from this image of the vehicle mode without the weapon (http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/71jTFi4POVL._AA1100_.jpg), it doesn't seem like the gimmick affects the look of the vehicle mode. So if you really don't like it, just don't attach it. :) There doesn't appear to be any unsightly ports or anything like that.

I like it as a method of being able to have all the parts attached in both modes. Makes it harder to lose ;)

kaiden
16th March 2013, 04:16 PM
they look so good - i can't wait to play with them.

griffin
21st March 2013, 01:26 AM
Another image posted of MP Prowl (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-scale-image-takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp17-prowl/26904/), next to MP Sideswipe and a couple Human Alliance figures, for scale.

tinyJazz
22nd March 2013, 04:15 AM
These are divine. Come into my life already.


Also, Amazon versions now come one beefier shoulder cannon each. (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/amazon-japan-reveals-takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp17-prowl-and-mp18-bluestreak-exclusive-accessories/26920/) "so fans will need both if they want to display one or the other with a pair."

Ultra Mackness
22nd March 2013, 05:50 AM
I just saw this and the 30+ year old inside threw a massive tantrum! The shoulder launchers were one of the defining characteristics of the original toys. While I'm happy to be getting these MPs (Prowl especially!) having these beefier launchers released only as an Amazon exclusive and then only one per toy just doesn't seem right.

kaiden
22nd March 2013, 06:35 AM
I just saw this and the 30+ year old inside threw a massive tantrum! The shoulder launchers were one of the defining characteristics of the original toys. While I'm happy to be getting these MPs (Prowl especially!) having these beefier launchers released only as an Amazon exclusive and then only one per toy just doesn't seem right.

i'm sure some 3rd party (most likely dr wu) will make them. and thats fine by me as i didn't like the hollow amazon piledrivers that came with sideswipe.

but these g1 shoulder launchers do look nice...

Sinnertwin
22nd March 2013, 11:05 AM
I just saw this and the 30+ year old inside threw a massive tantrum! The shoulder launchers were one of the defining characteristics of the original toys. While I'm happy to be getting these MPs (Prowl especially!) having these beefier launchers released only as an Amazon exclusive and then only one per toy just doesn't seem right.

I agree. If they were going for cartoon accuracy, two launchers, toy accuracy, two launchers, not drain pipes. I wouldve even preferred the launchers like the ones on the classics mold. In prowl's case i wouldnt have minded so much as we never saw him in the cartoon with them equipped. I can understand little knick-knacks that we've seen them use in the show for 1/2 a second as an 'exclusive' but not something that eas an integral part of both the the toy and show.

griffin
22nd March 2013, 02:20 PM
At least it was only Bluestreak that had those anime-accurate shoulder cannons (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1_Prowl_Bluestreak_Rollforit.jpg), but unfortunately that means buying Prowl to complete the pair... or having a trading topic for people who only bought Prowl to be able to sell off theirs to people who only bought Bluestreak.

It's a good incentive to encourage people to buy the pair though (from Amazon.jp and from Hasbro HK).

GoktimusPrime
22nd March 2013, 02:33 PM
They're obviously going for cartoon-likeness, and as griffin pointed out, that's how the missile launchers on Bluestreak looked like in the cartoon (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/68/MTMTE3_Bluestreak_rescues_Ironhide.jpg) (and comics (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/3d/Bumblebeebluestreakbrainstorm.jpg)) -- they were pipes! Prowl was drawn without shoulder mounted launchers in the cartoon (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/b/ba/EntertheNightbird-JazzProwl.jpg) and comics (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/b/b5/Prowlg1crisisofcommand.jpg) anyway, so if you want show-likeness with him, you'd just retract them. That's how I display my Henkei Prowl and Streak. ;) It's not TakaraTOMY's fault that they look like that... that's how Floro Dery (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Floro_Dery) designed them! ;)

Iriorne
22nd March 2013, 05:33 PM
As far as I can tell, allowing for animation variances and such, cartoon Bluestreak's shoulder cannon/launchers look like pretty much like the flip out ones already in the mould. The Amazon ones do look quite nice but having already placed preorders, I don't think it's worth the trouble of changing. Quite a clever move on Amazon's part, giving a single launcher with each figure, though I can understand why it might frustrate some people.

I think it's likely that these launchers will see a separate release, like MP-12's chisels, for people who missed out or want more and I'd be very surprised if a third party doesn't offer some replicas once the figures are released. I might jump on board if this happens but I'll be perfectly happy even if it doesn't. :)

Ode to a Grasshopper
22nd March 2013, 06:28 PM
It seems kinda cheap is all. Doesn't really bother me since I'm only after Prowl, but still.
Will probably just sell/trade the bonus launcher on if they stick with just the one.

canofwhoopass_87
22nd March 2013, 07:14 PM
Another image posted of MP Prowl (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-scale-image-takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp17-prowl/26904/), next to MP Sideswipe and a couple Human Alliance figures, for scale.

Geez that's a terrible photo of prowl

5FDP
22nd March 2013, 11:27 PM
I'm only getting Prowl and I prefer show-likeness with my MP toys (that's also the reason why I bought Takara MP Soundwave instead of the soon-to-be-released Hasbro version), so these exclusive missile launchers hold no interest for me whatsoever.

GoktimusPrime
23rd March 2013, 08:32 AM
I was initially gonna pre order on Amazon, then found out that HLJ's preorder price was cheaper (and at the time Amazon wasn't offering any exclusive stuff), so then I cancelled my Amazon order and went w/ HLJ. Ceebs to cancel HLJ and go back to Amazon! :rolleyes: The beefier launchers look nice and all... but yeah, I can live w/o them.

1AZRAEL1
26th March 2013, 09:25 PM
Guess I am late to the game. Was gonna order them from AmiAmi but they sold out. Really cheap there too. It's a provisional preorder, so hopefully more will go up soon.

Might order from HLJ, but why do they not have pictures yet?

kaiden
26th March 2013, 10:51 PM
Guess I am late to the game. Was gonna order them from AmiAmi but they sold out. Really cheap there too. It's a provisional preorder, so hopefully more will go up soon.

Might order from HLJ, but why do they not have pictures yet?

general laziness? honestly i have never found them to sell transformers well. amiami gets more sales because they're cheaper.

1AZRAEL1
27th March 2013, 01:27 AM
Decided to order from HLJ mainly because they were fairly cheap, about AU$47 each i think.

Never ordered from them before. So when they come in do i get an invoice to pay for them with paypal?

lancalot
27th March 2013, 01:34 AM
i usually preorder the MP from the HK store because they give you the coins and also include the amazon extra as well ... like the two extra cube with soundwave and the silver pile-drivers for sideswipe :)
I found HLJ shipping abit of a riot , unless you buy alot of items and combine shipping .

kaiden
27th March 2013, 01:49 AM
Decided to order from HLJ mainly because they were fairly cheap, about AU$47 each i think.

Never ordered from them before. So when they come in do i get an invoice to pay for them with paypal?

yeah, when your items come instock they'll send an invoice


i usually preorder the MP from the HK store because they give you the coins and also include the amazon extra as well ... like the two extra cube with soundwave and the silver pile-drivers for sideswipe :)
I found HLJ shipping abit of a riot , unless you buy alot of items and combine shipping .

shipping from japan is higher than hk. just how it is.

GoktimusPrime
27th March 2013, 09:20 AM
I found HLJ shipping abit of a riot , unless you buy alot of items and combine shipping .

shipping from japan is higher than hk. just how it is.
Japan Post has always been cheaper for larger items than smaller ones. That's why I often buy stuff from Japan, but have it sit around for a few months and then get the whole thing sent off to me in a single hit - makes postage a lot cheaper per item than if I had them sent off to me individually. Just last weekend I had a package sent to me with both MP Cassette sets and 3 Arms Micron toys. It means more waiting (which is frustrating), but it saves me money. :o Japan Post was privatised during the Koizumi administration, which has increased costs, but also made their service more efficient too (as well as reducing govt spending/debt).

But yeah... the trick to saving money with getting stuff from Japan is to get stuff sent in bulk. :)

Shirokaze
27th March 2013, 09:24 AM
Decided to order from HLJ mainly because they were fairly cheap, about AU$47 each i think.

Never ordered from them before. So when they come in do i get an invoice to pay for them with paypal?

Just a warning when pre-ordering from HLJ that there's a good chance you'll still miss out as they've recently screwed me on BOTH MP-15 and MP-16.

The worst part is they don't bother to tell you that they're unable to fill your order. The only way you know is when you don't receive the parcel, by which time everyone else has sold out or jacked up their prices to meet the demand.

When I emailed them to see what was going on, they basically said "If you don't like it, cancel your order and buy it elsewhere."

:mad:

kaiden
27th March 2013, 10:16 AM
Just a warning when pre-ordering from HLJ that there's a good chance you'll still miss out as they've recently screwed me on BOTH MP-15 and MP-16.

The worst part is they don't bother to tell you that they're unable to fill your order. The only way you know is when you don't receive the parcel, by which time everyone else has sold out or jacked up their prices to meet the demand.

When I emailed them to see what was going on, they basically said "If you don't like it, cancel your order and buy it elsewhere."

:mad:

wow. that's pretty shitty of them. thanks for the heads up shiro, its been years since i ordered from hlj.

GoktimusPrime
27th March 2013, 11:38 AM
I've personally never had any problems with HLJ. :o <knock.on.wood>

kaiden
27th March 2013, 06:06 PM
I've personally never had any problems with HLJ. :o <knock.on.wood>

nobody does, until they do.

i had been buying from RK for years and the one time they screw up is with my masterpiece Soundwave order and it really just left me bitter towards them.

Koroboo
27th March 2013, 07:59 PM
Dang, I always hate these bad stories about online retailers I've used in the past. Always makes me slightly scared about ordering from them again.

Personally I haven't had any issues ordering from HLJ (MP Grimlock, a bunch of Revoltech transformers).

I've ordered MP18 and MP19 from RK, so I'm hoping they do well. Only issue with them is that they charge you straight away rather than when the stock comes in.

Shirokaze
28th March 2013, 12:45 AM
The worst part about it is that I've been a customer of HLJ for the last 10 years and I've never had reason to doubt that I would get an order until now, so unfortunately the trust is gone. I'll still probably buy in-stock items through them, but when it comes to high-demand figures I'll be going elsewhere to secure them.

Of course I'm not saying people shouldn't pre-order MP-17 & 18 through them, just suggesting that it's wise to have a backup plan. :)

GoktimusPrime
28th March 2013, 10:08 AM
That's fair enough. I've used HLJ intermittently for the past 10 years too and I personally haven't had a problem.

I wonder if I should cancel my HLJ order and just go with Amazon Japan. They're now offering a pre-order discount and of course I'd get the exclusive launchers... hmm... tempting.

KickerrBlack
29th March 2013, 08:06 PM
I think I like the look of these guys better then the other Lambor and Red Alert figures. Might get Prowl, not sure about the others

griffin
1st April 2013, 07:17 PM
I just noticed on the Amazon.jp site that Prowl (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP-17-amazon-co-jp%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8-%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%8 3%B3%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%BC1%E5%80%8B%E4%BB%98 %E3%81%8D/dp/B00BQRKUF6/ref=pd_sim_t_2) now has an August 31st release with Bluestreak... it originally had a July release, a month before Bluestreak. More time to save for it, but now a bigger hit at once.

5FDP
2nd April 2013, 08:37 AM
Maybe they just had the release date wrong as I've only ever read August '13 (what I've put in my sig).

bassbot
2nd April 2013, 09:01 AM
man sucks that this is going on. I've heard of the delays with Mp Soundwave. I have my first order of MP Prowl with HLJ after lots of recommendations to use them. Now i'm a bit worried. THeir price is fantastic on the preorders so hopefully there are no problems.

griffin
2nd April 2013, 11:57 AM
Maybe they just had the release date wrong as I've only ever read August '13 (what I've put in my sig).

Possibly. The first dates known were from BBTS (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-masterpiece-mp17-and-mp18-announced-prowl-and-smokescreen/26612/), who had Prowl for July, Smokescreen for August, and Bluestreak for September.
Now though, Prowl and Smokescreen are later by a month, and Bluestreak is earlier by a month... and BBTS have changed their dates to match.

Looks like Tigertrack has maintained its June release date, so that hasn't changed.

tinyJazz
26th April 2013, 06:50 PM
Further delays (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/mp17-prowl-and-mp18-bluestreak-delayed/27158/).

Prowl now slated for September, Bluestreak in October. No word on Smokescreen.

Dang. :|

GoktimusPrime
26th April 2013, 11:19 PM
I don't mind... gives me more time to save. ;)

Ultra Mackness
27th April 2013, 08:59 AM
May be an issue for Kapow toys in the UK - Robot kingdom haven't altered their arrival time, still August

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us&CatID=

Fingers crossed they don't either, my preorder is with RK :)

Edit: just checked HLJ and Anime Export, they both have the release date as August, but on HLJ the date is 31/8 (cutting it fine!) and both stores have sold out their preorder so we may see a change of release date a bit later.

lancalot
27th April 2013, 01:17 PM
Wow...it going to be a pretty busy time with metroplex coming out about then as well.... at least this give us time to save up....:)

1orion2many
27th April 2013, 07:30 PM
Gives me more time to save. I hope this hasn't been delayed though
http://images.toywizard.net/0001/2013/02/mp-12T-tiger-track.jpg

lancalot
27th April 2013, 07:55 PM
Gives me more time to save. I hope this hasn't been delayed though
http://images.toywizard.net/0001/2013/02/mp-12T-tiger-track.jpg

:eek:is that a custom?..or an official pic... it got too many autobot symbol! ahah

nexusnixx
27th April 2013, 07:56 PM
that is the Tokyo Toy Show exclusive Tiger Tracks!

Good thing I pre-ordered that on the advice of my supplier...:p

Sinnertwin
27th April 2013, 09:19 PM
:eek:is that a custom?..or an official pic... it got too many autobot symbol! ahah

Looks like a custom to me. Colour scheme on robot mode of the toy its based off looks incorrect
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11667&mode=retail

Bidoofdude
27th April 2013, 09:54 PM
It is a custom put up on TFW a while ago. It's being misused heaps to trick people into thinking it's the real thing. (Though it sort of gives an indication as to what one would look like;))

5FDP
29th April 2013, 02:39 PM
I'd be one of those people saying 'at least this gives me more time to save' if it weren't for the fact that I've already paid for it :o Just hurry up already!

tinyJazz
29th April 2013, 10:37 PM
May be an issue for Kapow toys in the UK - Robot kingdom haven't altered their arrival time, still August

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us&CatID=

Fingers crossed they don't either, my preorder is with RK :)

Edit: just checked HLJ and Anime Export, they both have the release date as August, but on HLJ the date is 31/8 (cutting it fine!) and both stores have sold out their preorder so we may see a change of release date a bit later.

Bad news dudes, this just popped up on RK's facebook page.


Dear customers,

Here is the updated information from Takara.
We have just confirmed that the following 2 Masterpiece will be delayed.

MP-17: Delayed to 28th September 2013.
MP-18: Delayed to 26th October 2013.

And most likely MP-19 will be delayed too.

Any information will be updated here.
For further enquiry, please email to info@robotkingdom.com for help.

Robotkingdom Crew

Amiami also have the preorders for Prowl and Bluestreak listed as late September and late October respectively.

Ah, I don't mind, as long as the delays mean better quality control. I should probably cancel my order with BBTS as I've already got both down at HLJ.

griffin
29th April 2013, 11:38 PM
When I was looking on the Amazon.jp site last night for the JP release (RK would get the HK release), they still had August 31st for both... so when they update their release dates, I'll know for sure it is official.
Although, the dates should be the same for both JP and HK...

Ultra Mackness
1st May 2013, 05:39 AM
Noooooooo (Darth Vader moment:)). RK has updated their actual website release date now as well

I wonder what the reason for the delay is? Was it the spelling of "Patrol" on Prowl's doors, or maybe they just realised they got the scale all wrong:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/g1-replica-prowl-vehicle-up-for-auction/27197/

I wonder what a lifesize generations Metroplex would look like?

Tober
1st May 2013, 06:39 AM
It's not unusual for MPs to be delayed. Soundwave was delayed 6 weeks. Rodimus about a month...

JouetCOM
5th May 2013, 09:08 PM
Yep....just wait... I believe they will be worth the wait.

Still trying to get hold of a pre-order for tigertrack though

nexusnixx
5th May 2013, 10:14 PM
i am actually doing a mass pre-order for Tigertrack - please check Group Order section... :p


Yep....just wait... I believe they will be worth the wait.

Still trying to get hold of a pre-order for tigertrack though

Tetsuwan Convoy
5th May 2013, 10:33 PM
I wonder what a lifesize generations Metroplex would look like?
I always thought It'd be like a block or two of a major city transforming. </endofofftopic>

griffin
18th May 2013, 01:44 AM
A couple more images (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp17-prowl-and-mp18-bluestreak-images/27319/) from TakaraTomy of Prowl and (Blue)streak, showing off a little of their articulation.

Ultra Mackness
18th May 2013, 06:49 AM
It looks like Prowl has ditched the patorol for patrol! I can't wait for these two to be released - for me, Prowl epitomizes G1 Autobots (that aren't Prime of course), narrowly beating out Jazz and Sunstreaker. To finally have a MP version is going to be fantastic :)

Robzy
18th May 2013, 09:49 AM
Agreed! I can't wait for these!! Bluestreak was my first Autobot Car.

Kazza
11th September 2013, 08:57 PM
Just a heads up on Robot Kingdom, "All pre-orders placed on or before 15th September 2013 will be guaranteed the Coin and Amazon Exclusive Missile Launcher."

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP19&lang=us

Trent
11th September 2013, 09:44 PM
^ Cool.

MayzaPrime
12th September 2013, 07:04 PM
Just a heads up on Robot Kingdom, "All pre-orders placed on or before 15th September 2013 will be guaranteed the Coin and Amazon Exclusive Missile Launcher."

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP19&lang=us

Awesome!!!! :cool:

Tober
15th September 2013, 08:36 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/uEmQn5F_zps23134cdd.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/uEmQn5F_zps23134cdd.jpg.html)

Hursticon
15th September 2013, 09:31 PM
Man they look so damn sweet; Didn't give two s**** about them when they were 1st announced, fast forward to their prototype reveals & I couldn't preorder them fast enough - Can't wait! :D

1AZRAEL1
15th September 2013, 09:43 PM
They are a thing of beauty

Gofigure
15th September 2013, 10:43 PM
I.....I just had a nerdgasm

They are they perfect fusion of toy and cartoon representation

Look at Prowl. He looks just like he did in the cartoon. Amazing work

liegeprime
16th September 2013, 12:58 AM
Wouldn't it be nice if these new MPs came with human "accessories" as well.

I mean Sideswipe (lambor) has his extra of sorts - the pile drivers (should've gotten a rocket pack too IMHO. Then there's Red Alert with the brain sparks earmuffs.... what do these guys get.. nuthin extra? Don't get me wrong I'm like getting them even without an extra stuff hehehe

Im just wishdreaming if ever - Prowl can have Chip Chase in wheelchair - in reference to that episode that Chip took over his motion to fight off the Seekers, Smokescreen can prolly have his wrist cheating wiring - okay so that's not too exciting... prolly some energon chips (in reference to his gambling episode), now Bluestreak - hmmm Im not sure what accessory goes with him, he didn't really make much of an impression in the old toons....mebbe a Sparkplug figure? :p

Trent
16th September 2013, 07:27 AM
I'm generally not an accessories fan. Personally they're a waste of space and money. Sideswipe's pile drivers are in a draw never to see the light of day, same with most accessories. Red Alert has his PANIC! Lights on purely to differentiate him from SS and TT on the shelf.

But your idea is pretty cool Liege, Chip or Sparkplug in the same scale and Daniel would be awesome. :)

liegeprime
16th September 2013, 11:32 AM
If they ever make an MP Arcee - Daniel could be her accessory. Which means never then......knowing Hasbro...

llamatron
16th September 2013, 11:57 AM
I'm hoping for a Chip Chase with the upcoming Bumblebee...

Otherwise there's always Dr. Wu...

VERT
16th September 2013, 01:19 PM
The new Art feather Goldbug that just came out comes with Chip chase.

Tober
16th September 2013, 04:05 PM
Of course, MP Prowl and Streak come with an additional missile launcher if you order from Amazon Jp or Robot Kingdom.

kaiden
16th September 2013, 04:22 PM
all Autobot MPs should come with the parts needed to build Autobot X (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autobot_X)

GoktimusPrime
16th September 2013, 04:39 PM
If they ever make an MP Arcee - Daniel could be her accessory. Which means never then......knowing Hasbro...
That wouldn't make sense for the TakaraTOMY market since Arcee and Daniel (thankfully) never binary bonded in the Japanese continuity. It'd make more sense for MP Arcee to come w/ Cerebros ("Spike") as her driver since she was basically Fortress Maximus' setchetary (Hey Dad!'d) in The☆Headmasters. Though it'd be easy enough for Hasbro to replace it w/ Daniel (they did give their version of MP Rodimus FireboltOffshoot after all). :)

all Autobot MPs should come with the parts needed to build Autobot X (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autobot_X)
Nice! :D

Hursticon
16th September 2013, 04:57 PM
all Autobot MPs should come with the parts needed to build Autobot X (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autobot_X)


Nice! :D

Seconded! :D

MayzaPrime
16th September 2013, 06:29 PM
An Autobot X MP would be awesome

jazzcomp
16th September 2013, 06:54 PM
I'm generally not an accessories fan. Personally they're a waste of space and money. Sideswipe's pile drivers are in a draw never to see the light of day, same with most accessories. Red Alert has his PANIC! Lights on purely to differentiate him from SS and TT on the shelf.

But your idea is pretty cool Liege, Chip or Sparkplug in the same scale and Daniel would be awesome. :)
Sideswipe should have his rocket boosters :)

UltraMarginal
17th September 2013, 11:35 AM
An Autobot X MP would be awesome

You really think so?

It would be a visual abomination and there is no way it could be designed to transform into anything. at least, that's what I wreckon.:)

kaiden
17th September 2013, 11:52 AM
You really think so?

It would be a visual abomination and there is no way it could be designed to transform into anything. at least, that's what I wreckon.:)

isnt that what he is meant to be? a frankenstein of Autobot spare parts. It would be a fun collectible to build.

GoktimusPrime
17th September 2013, 04:55 PM
^Agreed. It'd be stupid as a stand alone action figure, but it'd be neat as a build-a-figure. Similar to Transmutate w/ the Beast Wars reissues. :) And of course, a great gimmick to get collectors to buy more MPs! :p

kaiden
19th September 2013, 07:13 AM
http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece/mp17/

http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece/mp18/

GoktimusPrime
19th September 2013, 11:14 AM
メーカー希望
小売価格(税込) 6,090円
"RRP 6090JPY" ($65) <---expenseeeve!
Discounted preorders FTW! :D

Hursticon
19th September 2013, 02:00 PM
"RRP 6090JPY" ($65) <---expenseeeve!
Discounted preorders FTW! :D

In the immortal words of Ducky: "Yep-yep-YEP!" :D

Trent
19th September 2013, 03:05 PM
"RRP 6090JPY" ($65) <---expenseeeve!
Discounted preorders FTW! :D

So what would you do if, like a majority of us, you had no access to these preorder discounts you are always on about? Would you then never own another masterpiece car?

Tober
19th September 2013, 05:03 PM
The majority of online stores offer discounts of up to 30% for the Masterpiece line... :confused:

Anyway, 10 days to go until Prowl. :)

Cat
19th September 2013, 05:16 PM
So close to single digit wait.

This is where it gets excruciating.

UltraMarginal
19th September 2013, 05:18 PM
So close to single digit wait.

This is where it gets excruciating.

I ordered all 3 from Robot kingdom together so I won't be seeing mine till late December...

Tober
19th September 2013, 05:30 PM
I ordered all 3 from Robot kingdom together so I won't be seeing mine till late December...

Merry Christmas! :rolleyes:

Cat
19th September 2013, 05:35 PM
I ordered all 3 from Robot kingdom together so I won't be seeing mine till late December...

I couldn't do that.

It'd put me into a Howard Hughes state. Well, more like Mr Burns doing his Howard Hughes thing. Wearing tissue boxes as shoes, you know.

I did check the difference between the postal costs, and it didn't seem like I was going to save much by having them shipped together. That was only with the first two guys though.

I haven't bothered to change my pre-order for SS yet. He's still on pre-order at BBTS.

MayzaPrime
19th September 2013, 05:35 PM
I ordered all 3 from Robot kingdom together so I won't be seeing mine till late December...

I ordered Prowl & Bluestreak together but I ordered Smokescreen separately.

UltraMarginal
19th September 2013, 05:47 PM
Merry Christmas! :rolleyes:

thanks I guess.


I couldn't do that.

It'd put me into a Howard Hughes state. Well, more like Mr Burns doing his Howard Hughes thing. Wearing tissue boxes as shoes, you know.

I did check the difference between the postal costs, and it didn't seem like I was going to save much by having them shipped together. That was only with the first two guys though.

I haven't bothered to change my pre-order for SS yet. He's still on pre-order at BBTS.

I added a couple other things to the order so it works out cheaper postage wise, but it will suck seeing all these turn up for everyone else knowing that mine are just sitting there waiting to be shipped. I also was a little late to the party with ordering so RK was the cheapest place that still had all 3 in stock.

kaiden
19th September 2013, 06:45 PM
I ordered Prowl & Bluestreak together but I ordered Smokescreen separately.

same :D

lancalot
19th September 2013, 07:08 PM
So close to single digit wait.

This is where it gets excruciating.

i know your pain!! lol so close but yet so far...

Lordy
20th September 2013, 08:30 PM
Looks so nice. I like the attention to detail, right down to the "Z" badge on the bonnet

Just wish they had rubber tyres. Small niggle, but still.

Cat
21st September 2013, 02:42 AM
Comparison photos.

MP and G1 Prowl side by side, both modes.

https://twitter.com/Hasui_TF/status/378446220143783937/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Hasui_TF/status/380968571720826880/photo/1

Click on the photos to embiggen them.

lancalot
21st September 2013, 12:49 PM
Comparison photos.

MP and G1 Prowl side by side, both modes.

https://twitter.com/Hasui_TF/status/378446220143783937/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Hasui_TF/status/380968571720826880/photo/1

Click on the photos to embiggen them.

seeing them side by side like that , you appreciate how good the g1 design was

Tober
21st September 2013, 06:23 PM
seeing them side by side like that , you appreciate how good the g1 design was

Yep, although the G1 design also had interior detail... :cool:

Sinnertwin
21st September 2013, 06:47 PM
Yep, although the G1 design also had interior detail... :cool:

G1 interior detail?

GoktimusPrime
21st September 2013, 07:17 PM
Diaclone cockpit w/ transparent windows. The Diaclone TFs are even more impressive when you consider that had to house a pilot in both robot and vehicle modes; which of course means that the cockpit compartment is an immovable section which they had to engineer the rest of the toy around.

Sinnertwin
21st September 2013, 07:30 PM
I was thinking of something else entirely different :D

Tober
21st September 2013, 09:09 PM
I was thinking of something else entirely different :D

Not the best choice of words from me... :o

It is kinda strange that they did work actual interior detail into the Binaltech/Alternators and Alternity, but couldn't rework it into the new Masterpieces. :(

Trent
21st September 2013, 10:36 PM
Not the best choice of words from me... :o

It is kinda strange that they did work actual interior detail into the Binaltech/Alternators and Alternity, but couldn't rework it into the new Masterpieces. :(

Remember they had a lot more flexibility with the BT/Alt lines because the robot modes didn't have a predetermined look, so they had more to play with. MP has both a predetermined alt and robot modes, restricting design options.

Tober
21st September 2013, 10:51 PM
Remember they had a lot more flexibility with the BT/Alt lines because the robot modes didn't have a predetermined look, so they had more to play with. MP has both a predetermined alt and robot modes, restricting design options.

Sure, but some of the transformations they used for the BTs were based on the look of their G1 counterparts. The Smokescreen/Streak/Bluestreak Subaru WRX anyway.

gamblor916
24th September 2013, 12:11 PM
Two days to go!

liegeprime
24th September 2013, 05:39 PM
Two days to go!

When you say 2 days, this is for the official release in Japan is it?

Tober
24th September 2013, 07:48 PM
Amazon Jp has the release dates as the 28th for Prowl and the 26th of October for Streak. They tend to be on the streets a few days before that.

gamblor916
24th September 2013, 09:07 PM
HLJ has Prowl due on the 26th. But also has Streak listed incorrectly on the same date.

Hursticon
24th September 2013, 10:51 PM
HLJ has Prowl due on the 26th. But also has Streak listed incorrectly on the same date.

This is true & I might say it's also quite confusing, as well as slightly frustrating. :rolleyes:

Ultra Mackness
25th September 2013, 05:22 AM
RK has Prowl due out on the 28th of September but Bluestreak due out on 26th October.

It's getting close for Prowl either way, and after months of waiting, I can feel the electricity of about to be realised anticipation building!

Cat
26th September 2013, 11:52 PM
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!!!!!!

gdmetro
27th September 2013, 12:42 AM
Arghh!!!

Had to Exercise incredible restraint from adding in-stock prowl to my order of Takara Metroplex at Anime Export and shipping both!..

Now will have to painfully wait till October to have it with Streak.

kaiden
27th September 2013, 02:10 AM
wonder who'll be the first to show off photos... /jealous

1AZRAEL1
27th September 2013, 02:17 AM
wonder who'll be the first to show off photos... /jealous

It'll be race for people to show him off lol.

Mine won't be coming until Smokescreen comes anyway.

danny-boy
27th September 2013, 02:25 AM
Arghh!!!

Had to Exercise incredible restraint from adding in-stock prowl to my order of Takara Metroplex at Anime Export and shipping both!..

Now will have to painfully wait till October to have it with Streak.

I've got Bluestreak as well but it's super cheap to ship now for me. Ive got 2 prowls and it came to $10 normal shipping and $20 express with anime export. I'd imagine normal shipping for 1 prowl would be less than $10. Metroplex is the killer with shipping though.

I chose express. I'll have my Prowls on Monday. Can't wait.

Ae-Evolution
27th September 2013, 02:27 AM
Order Stop
This item is expected to be released in 00/2000. We will accept additional orders at that time if supplies are sufficient.

Apparently, Prowl is expected to be released 13 years ago at HLJ.

Iriorne
27th September 2013, 11:35 AM
All paid up at HLJ, now to live vicariously through online video reviews and photos until Streak is released. :)

1AZRAEL1
27th September 2013, 12:01 PM
I too got payment request from hlj this morning too. Will pay for him, then have to wait for streak and screen before I get mine.

willocrew
27th September 2013, 12:22 PM
I too got payment request from hlj this morning too. Will pay for him, then have to wait for streak and screen before I get mine.

Hey guys. How much is shipping for from HLJ in Japan to Perth for the prowl? I got the payment request this morning but there is not info on shipping.

Is anime export cheaper?

lancalot
27th September 2013, 12:26 PM
going to eagerly await for the delivery van next week..!

1AZRAEL1
27th September 2013, 12:48 PM
Hey guys. How much is shipping for from HLJ in Japan to Perth for the prowl? I got the payment request this morning but there is not info on shipping.

Is anime export cheaper?

Did you opt to have it sit around until something else comes in? Aka put it in warehouse like BBTS POL? If you did they won't give you a shipping quote until you want it sent.

Hursticon
27th September 2013, 02:50 PM
Sweet! :D

Didn't receive a payment request from HLJ, due to the payment option I've chosen (I believe) ;), but the payment is processing & this is my order's current status:
"This order is currently being double-checked before final packing." <- This is why I enjoy dealing with Hobby Link Japan. :cool:

Prowl & Metroplex should be here next week! :eek::D

Trent
27th September 2013, 03:20 PM
RK have shipped mine:D

Cat
27th September 2013, 03:37 PM
I REALLY regret not getting the fastest shipping now. :(

yoshi594
27th September 2013, 04:02 PM
I got mine shipped for 25ish dollars at hlj (got 2 prowls). Not too fussed about the coins as I only have the red alert, Maximus and rodimus coins anyway.

Gutted about the rocket launcher thou, I'm hoping they will be on sale individually or a third party makes em.

VERT
27th September 2013, 05:46 PM
And mine has shipped from RK :D

ILikeSoundwave
27th September 2013, 06:02 PM
And mine has shipped from RK :D

So has mine, just got the email:D

willocrew
27th September 2013, 08:23 PM
Did you opt to have it sit around until something else comes in? Aka put it in warehouse like BBTS POL? If you did they won't give you a shipping quote until you want it sent.

Turned out it was sitting in private warehouse. I didn't realize it but I've also got blue streak on Pre order!

Anyway, paid up for Prowl. Now deciding if I should just ship it out of private warehouse or wait.

willocrew
27th September 2013, 08:26 PM
I got mine shipped for 25ish dollars at hlj (got 2 prowls). Not too fussed about the coins as I only have the red alert, Maximus and rodimus coins anyway.

Gutted about the rocket launcher thou, I'm hoping they will be on sale individually or a third party makes em.



Do you know whats the cheapest shipping option HLJ offers for two prowl figures?

I'm deciding whether to ship Prowl now or wait for blue streak and ship both together. If the savings is just a few bucks then I'm shipping it out ASAP!

lancalot
27th September 2013, 08:38 PM
Turned out it was sitting in private warehouse. I didn't realize it but I've also got blue streak on Pre order!

Anyway, paid up for Prowl. Now deciding if I should just ship it out of private warehouse or wait.

i always cope the "impatience tax" it cant get here fast enough ... :D im usually the one that always count down to release days

Ae-Evolution
27th September 2013, 09:53 PM
Does anyone know how this would charge, I got Prowl in an order with an Oct release item at HLJ, would they charge all together or once each item comes out?

1AZRAEL1
27th September 2013, 10:02 PM
Does anyone know how this would charge, I got Prowl in an order with an Oct release item at HLJ, would they charge all together or once each item comes out?

Each item they require money for when it comes in stock, then when you want to ship they should send you a shipping price when you ask to get it sent.

Tober
27th September 2013, 10:18 PM
Do you know whats the cheapest shipping option HLJ offers for two prowl figures?

I'm deciding whether to ship Prowl now or wait for blue streak and ship both together. If the savings is just a few bucks then I'm shipping it out ASAP!

Cheapest shipping would be SAL (no tracking, takes a few weeks). If you wait for another couple of Streaks and you order value goes over 15000jpy then shipping by EMS (tracking, 4 or 5 business days) is mandatory.

Anime Export are cheaper and faster, but require payment up front. HLJ are slower to ship, ask for payment when the items are in stock, have better customer support, and let you cancel before they charge you if you change your mind.

Sinnertwin
28th September 2013, 04:34 PM
HLJ have still Streak & Smokescreen available for preorder for those who may still be after one.

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?GenreCode2=all&Word=mp18&x=0&y=0
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?GenreCode2=all&Word=mp19&x=0&y=0

ILikeSoundwave
28th September 2013, 04:42 PM
Amiami have Prowl for back-order
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TOY-RBT-3126&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dtransforme rs%24pagemax%3D20%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

willocrew
29th September 2013, 03:29 AM
HLJ have still Streak & Smokescreen available for preorder for those who may still be after one.

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?GenreCode2=all&Word=mp18&x=0&y=0
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?GenreCode2=all&Word=mp19&x=0&y=0

Did they jack up the smokescreen price?

I'm thinking of putting it on Pre order.

1AZRAEL1
29th September 2013, 04:04 AM
Did they jack up the smokescreen price?

I'm thinking of putting it on Pre order.

Yea they did. When I ordered mine it was a little more than prowl and streak, but looking at it now, they have increased the price a little bit again.

Ultra Mackness
29th September 2013, 07:29 AM
Robot Kingdom still has all three listed as in stock at their original price of $59.99. Don't know what combined shipping would be as I ordered them all seperately, but shipping for one of them was $20. With th AUD the way it is, it would be about $86,$87 after conversion.

My Prowl is on its way, Bluestreak is listed as October 26 release and Smokescreen is listed as a December release.

Prowl: http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us

Bluestreak: http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP19&lang=us&CatID=

Smokescreen: http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP18&lang=us&CatID=

Sinnertwin
29th September 2013, 07:56 AM
Robot Kingdom still has all three listed as in stock at their original price of $59.99. Don't know what combined shipping would be as I ordered them all seperately, but shipping for one of them was $20. With th AUD the way it is, it would be about $86,$87 after conversion.

RK's Shipping prices can be found here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=373641&postcount=27) :)

GoktimusPrime
29th September 2013, 10:52 AM
TakaraTOMY's official web site has now got pages for Prowl and Streak
http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece

kaiden
29th September 2013, 11:35 AM
TakaraTOMY's official web site has now got pages for Prowl and Streak
http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece

i posted that 10 days ago :P

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=375157&postcount=183

Sinnertwin
29th September 2013, 01:01 PM
i posted that 10 days ago :P

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=375157&postcount=183

Understandable. We can't always keep up to dates with posts. ;) :) Still, it's better than having two posts by two different members with the exact same link on the same page :p

pw_sd
29th September 2013, 03:10 PM
Prowl in hand pictures:
http://bbs.actoys.net/read.php?tid-1719915.html

Ultra Mackness
29th September 2013, 04:11 PM
Thanks pw_sd, those photos are great. I think that's the first time I've seen shots from different sides and back. Looks like the amazon launchers are hollow and sit on top of the attached launchers.

Can't wait for this guy to arrive!!

griffin
29th September 2013, 06:48 PM
i posted that 10 days ago :P

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=375157&postcount=183

People keep saying we should limit new topics and just keep posting news in existing topics... but then others keep missing the new news buried in 20 pages of comments.
It's a no-win situation... :o

Cat
30th September 2013, 08:37 AM
Mine just arrived from RK, so keep your eyes out if you ordered from there!

ILikeSoundwave
30th September 2013, 08:53 AM
Mine just arrived from RK, so keep your eyes out if you ordered from there!

Really? That was quick, when was yours shipped?

Cat
30th September 2013, 09:03 AM
Really? That was quick, when was yours shipped?

I don't know, as there's no date or stamp on the label that I can see.

Some quick thoughts: On my way out, so don't even have time to transform him.

He looks great. Couple of minor scratches in the black paint, but nothing major at all.

Otherwise, it all looks very clean.

Quick and nitpicky observation that may change when I get a proper chance to fool around with it: The centre hood panel does sit up a tiny bit. I don't think I'd have noticed this, but for someone on another board pointing it out on the pics the other day of production pieces. It can be pushed down, but it clicks back up again, like it was a button. Not a big deal, and it's only out a tiny tiny tiny bit. Barely noticeable, at worst.

If you're going to display it in vehicle mode, you'll want to remove the shoulder launchers. They stand out a lot, even with the tint in the windows. That's the only thing that 'spoils' the illusion. Otherwise it's a breathtaking sculpt, even just in vehicle mode. Mirrors feel a bit sturdier than I was expecting.

You don't get a whole lot. Just the figure and gun. It seems a bit bare after the extra we've got with other guys, but I'm perfectly happy with it.

The coin is beautiful, and I've only only got one extra launcher for now, but it'll definitely be used. It looks pretty good. It sits over the standard ones, wasn't expecting that.

I'll have to wait til I get back to transform him and really enjoy it, but my initial impression is quite nice. You may be a bit disappointed if yours isn't coming with the coin and launcher, as it does seem a bit bare upon opening otherwise.

GoktimusPrime
30th September 2013, 09:50 AM
Mine's only coming w/ the extra launchers no coin; I don't collect the coins so it doesn't bother me. I paid about $50-something (directly from Amazon JP) which is as cheap as I could find it. I'll ship mine off when I get back to Oz, so I'm not expecting to get mine until maybe late Oct.