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GoktimusPrime
16th March 2013, 02:22 PM
Series - Transformers Prime
Sub-line - Beast Hunters
Size/class - Voyager
Wave - 1
New/remould/redeco - New
Released here - March 2013
Regular Retail Price - $50
Approximate Size - 17.5cm
Allegiance - Predacon
Alt-mode - Hydra/Dragon
Main Features/Gimmicks - outside hydra heads swing down and launch missiles
Main Colours - black and orange w/ gold and grey highlights
Main Accessories - sword, hydra heads (x2), missiles (x2)

Pics (undoctored):
Hydra/Dragon mode (http://getsomegrapesoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-predaking-alt-mode.jpg)
Robot mode (http://getsomegrapesoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-predaking-robot-mode.jpg)
Rear view of robot mode (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f33ycmrw61yjpg/original.jpg)

Pros
* Good sculpting - figure looks suitably imposing and menacing
* Decent paint apps, although the wings are completely orange and could do with some highlights. Sword is black with a gold painted end.
* The way that the beast mode feet are incorporated into the robot mode is good, particularly with the hind legs folding in and forming heel supports. And just as well, as the wings make the toy back heavy in robot mode. The heel spurs support this toy surprisingly well.
* The 2 Hydra heads can attach to the forearms to become missile launcher weapons. They also have rows of piranha-like teeth!
* Interesting transformation scheme, particularly with the robot legs forming the rear part of the beast mode. They certainly have tried something different here. :)

Cons
* The way that the tail locks into the back of the robot renders the waist articulation unusable. The toy does have an articulated waist - it's required for transformation, but it cannot move once the tail is locked in. You could unlock the tail, but then the back looks unsightly (as it conceals the central Hydra head), and also the tail just sticks out with nowhere to go (it's not a good look)). Furthermore, the low hanging wings can get in the way of upper body lateral movement anyway.
* While the sword may look nice, the toy is incapable of holding it properly. The hilt has two tabs sticking out, and the heel of the palms have slots for the tabs to insert into, but the tabs are too small (or the slots are too big), making this feature pretty much useless. It's the same problem that TakaraTOMY's Masterpiece Rodimus Convoy has (and why he cannot hold his weapons either). Even if the tab were thickened, because the tabs are on both sides (which allows the sword to be held in either hand, because it's a single edged blade), when you close the hand it squeezes the sword out anyway! Now the guard has two additional slots which can fit between the 3 fingers, and when you push the two thumbs (yeah, he has marsupial hands :p) together, it can now actually hold the sword! But it's not a particularly strong grip, and the sword would easily fly off it it gets so much as nudged. :( You could also rotate the sword 90 degrees (http://transformersnstuff.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/2013-02-23_21-45-03_169.jpg) to have Predaking hold the hilt without touching the tabs. I tried this, and it's a better grip, but still incredibly weak. So the best I've managed to do is just have him loosely hold the sword in place - which is fine for display purposes, but in terms of having a decent enough grip for play purposes, it's just rubbish. It's a lot like MP01 and his rifle grip (or lack thereof). :(
* The wings are sculpted in this kinda awkward shape where, if you put them down low (as you're supposed to), it gets in the way of your hands when you handle the toy. It would also take up more shelf space. :rolleyes: But if you swing them up high, the spikey shoulders end up bumping them. There doesn't seem to be an ideal position for the wings, but I guess I'll keep them low for play, and high for display.

Overall
A satisfactory figure, but I'm mighty glad that I bought it on sale. I'm really glad that Hasbro ditched the whole LED gimmick from the TFPRiD Voyagers and put more engineering back into the toy itself, and the results are considerably more pleasing. The design of the sword is an epic fail, but the Hydra head launchers work well. Not worth paying full RRP for, so get it on sale if you really want this toy.

Hydra or Dragon?
The alt mode seems to bear qualities of both a Hydra and a Dragon, but when I Google Image search for "Hydra", I see a lot of images of dragon-like Hydra, like this (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MkR53lrnAcA/T_mejLnkx_I/AAAAAAAABdg/w5XIzh35fr0/s1600/hydra.jpg). It appears that Predaking's alt mode is based on that sort of Hydra, though arguably one could say that it's a hybrid (or "Fuzor") between a Hydra and a Dragon, because a more Classical looking Hydra is essentially a multi (or should I say "Poly" since it's Greek? ;))-headed serpent, looking more like these:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-A4wXiEEJ2BE/Trb3Gu6GbUI/AAAAAAAAIj4/10YP2zlNQFo/s400/hercules-hydra.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120615061526/dragonsdogma/images/7/71/Hydra01.png
However, the addition of a Dragon-like body and legs may date back as far as Roman times judging from this image (http://thewordwielder.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/800px-hercules_slaying_the_hydra.jpg) -- I have no idea what period that image comes from, so I'm just making a guess.
So is it a three headed dragon, or a three headed hydra??? :confused: Well, the box keeps referring to the alt mode itself as a dragon, but refers to the additional heads/missile launchers as hydra heads! :eek: So ermm... I'm just gonna take it as a dragon/hydra "Fuzor". :rolleyes:

A new Autobot is coming?
I've been avoiding Season 3 spoilers, and we know that Optimus Prime looked to be finished at the end of Season 2... so according to Predaking's instruction booklet story, it seems that the Autobots may be due for a new leader. Arise...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/optiums_zpsfcf6c008.jpg
:p ;) :p
when I Googled "Optiums" I got results for "optimum" and "opium" :o

SMHFConvoy
16th March 2013, 02:39 PM
Yeah the story on the instructions differs greatly from the animated series. So much for the aligned continuity. I'm gonna wait for the ultra class of this guy.

lancalot
16th March 2013, 05:37 PM
I'm gonna wait for the ultra class of this guy.

:eek: ill was looking for him in myer today liverpool but didnt have any beast hunter :mad: , but ultra class :eek:!!when that coming out? ill think in going to wait for that as well after reading your review ..

SMHFConvoy
16th March 2013, 07:50 PM
:eek: ill was looking for him in myer today liverpool but didnt have any beast hunter :mad: , but ultra class :eek:!!when that coming out? ill think in going to wait for that as well after reading your review ..

I don't know maybe mid year? Might have to buy it online. BTW I picked up the commander class of predaking. It too has the wings lower on the back but what I find annoying are the stubby hind legs in beast mode.

kaiden
16th March 2013, 08:24 PM
terrible toy.

Pros
-good sculpt for robot mode
-swords and guns look good too.
-good articulation and poseability

Cons
-cheap feeling plastic
-crap ratcheting in the hip-leg joint
-crap claw hands cant hold the sword well
-tail section that connects to sword is not a shield/gauntlet
-lots of pokey pointy bits
-awful lower body section in dragon mode looks weird.

@gok, the tail section where the sword connects to can be removed from the orange tail section that folds up into his back in robot mode and thus restores his waist articulation. this is also why i wished for that part to be a shield/gauntlet as it would have a more suitable function. a simple solution would be to include a peg in the hollowed under-section so it could peg into his forearm and also be a secondary way to hold the sword.

liegeprime
16th March 2013, 09:55 PM
Ill wait for the bigger version... hopefully it's not gonna be too pricy here.

GoktimusPrime
16th March 2013, 11:01 PM
According to this thread (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=15681) the larger Predaking is Ultimate Class, not Ultra Class. Ultra Class retails for about $70, whereas Ultimate is $150 at full RRP (that's how much DOTM Ultimate Optimus Prime originally retailed for IIRC).

And as griffin said on that thread...

Unfortunately, some of that extra cost will be for the gimmick element of those larger toys, making the actual toy seem like less value.
I'd rather have a smaller toy that's better value for money over a larger and more expensive toy with gimmick-compromised engineering/design. :o

SMHFConvoy
17th March 2013, 09:09 AM
I'll wait for the reviews on YouTube before I decide I guess.

GoktimusPrime
17th March 2013, 10:25 AM
That's fair enough. The boxed figures don't sell as quickly, so there ought to still be lots of Voyager Predakings around by time the Ultimate figure comes out and shelf warms (Ultimate Optimus Prime is still shelfwarming!). I've already bought my Voyager Predaking, so I'm happy to settle with him. :)

GoktimusPrime
17th March 2013, 10:34 PM
Another thought about Ultimate Predaking (http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=346810&postcount=9) (contains mild show spoiler; visual spoiler, nothing to do with the plot/story)