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Tober
15th June 2013, 01:40 PM
I'm not completely sure what this is yet, but it appears to be a voting list for the next Masterpiece toy. But a Fortress Maximux Masterpiece doesn't make a lot of sense...

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/xa53_zps018ea1a3.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/xa53_zps018ea1a3.jpg.html)

List believed to be:

1 - Fort Max (G1)
2 - God Ginrai/Powermaster Prime (G1)
3 - Star Saber (Transformers: Victory)
4 - Dai Atlas (Transformers: Zone)
5 - Optimus Primal (Beast Wars)
6 - Lio Convoy (Beast Wars II)
7 - Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo)
8 - Fire Convoy (Car Robots)
9 - Optimus Prime (Armada)
10 - Optimus Prime (Energon)
11 - Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force)

Thanks OptionZero (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/931469-next-mp-g2-sideswipe-also-30th-anniversary-fans-choice-mp-choices-revealed-5.html#post9574933)

lj7369
15th June 2013, 01:54 PM
fort max masterpiece could be interesting..................and expensive.

Tober
15th June 2013, 01:57 PM
Yeah, they are Autobot Leaders from Japanes continuities... sorta.

Still not sure what the vote is actually for, or if it is a vote.

Trent
15th June 2013, 02:26 PM
Wishful thinking only but:

Hopefully it means the winner of the vote will get made as a special for the 30th Anniversary next year. Primal would be awesome. But as if Fort Max wouldn't win it.




Lol. Masterpiece Super-Pants Prime :D

Iriorne
15th June 2013, 02:32 PM
Hopefully if Fortress Maximus wins he'll be roughly the same size as the current MP line in robot mode. I like the way he's treated in the IDW comics as being a large bot, but not a city-former. I don't find any of the other choices particularly interesting.

kaiden
15th June 2013, 02:43 PM
I would just like them to concentrate on G1. The recent quality has really made collecting the MP line exciting once again with Soundwave (cassettes) and Sideswipe, Red Alert and Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen which all aren't Optimus or Seekers!

really, the way they are re-engineering G1 characters is amazing and they shouldn't stop their progress.

M-bot
15th June 2013, 03:16 PM
Agree with Kaiden, I would prefer the MP line concentrate on G1 (although I don't begrudge them the G2 Sideswipe repaint since they'll presumably be getting more value from the mould), so I'll be voting for Fort Max. Way too many characters to 'MP' before doing another Prime.

Hursticon
15th June 2013, 03:25 PM
I sincerely hope that FortMax barely rates a mention, the proposal of a Masterpiece version of him is absurd as the G1 figure already IS a masterpiece IMO. :cool:

Whilst I imagine that Star Saber or Ginrai will likely garner the most votes, I would really-REALLY-REALLY like to see & own a Masterpiece Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal :D:eek::cool::D:D:D - I would then be completely satiated in my feelings towards Beast Wars' representation in the scheme of the brand's 30th Anniversary celebrations. ;)

I know there would be a helluva lot of Beast Wars fans world-wide that would be feeling very much excited at this prospect, we simply must keep an eye out for when & where Takara starts polling fans on this - Any assistance from our Japanese reading/speaking members would be grandly appreciated (By me at least). :)

Hey VERNO!, you seeing this news mate? :D

Tober
15th June 2013, 03:38 PM
I sincerely hope that FortMax barely rates a mention, the proposal of a Masterpiece version of him is absurd as the G1 figure already IS a masterpiece IMO. :cool:

That's what they said about Soundwave. ;)


Whilst I imagine that Star Saber or Ginrai will likely garner the most votes, I would really-REALLY-REALLY like to see & own a Masterpiece Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal :D:eek::cool::D:D:D - I would then be completely satiated in my feelings towards Beast Wars' representation in the scheme of the brand's 30th Anniversary celebrations. ;)

I know there would be a helluva lot of Beast Wars fans world-wide that would be feeling very much excited at this prospect, we simply must keep an eye out for when & where Takara starts polling fans on this - Any assistance from our Japanese reading/speaking members would be grandly appreciated (By me at least). :)

Hey VERNO!, you seeing this news mate? :D

It says 'Awards', it doesn't really mention voting, or if there is, exactly what it's for... I say "SUMMON THE SYDNEYY"!! :cool:

Hursticon
15th June 2013, 03:44 PM
That's what they said about Soundwave. ;)

Difference is though, Soundwave deserved the treatment. ;):cool:... :D


It says 'Awards', it doesn't really mention voting, or if there is, exactly what it's for... I say "SUMMON THE SYDNEYY"!! :cool:

I was going off of what TFW2005 had reported (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-g2-sideswipe-30th-anniversary-masterpiece-fans-choice-characters-revealed-177742/) regarding the matter, some clarification on it by the mysterious SYDNEYY doesn't sound like a bad idea though. ;):)

MayzaPrime
15th June 2013, 04:14 PM
Whilst I imagine that Star Saber or Ginrai will likely garner the most votes, I would really-REALLY-REALLY like to see & own a Masterpiece Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal :D:eek::cool::D:D:D - I would then be completely satiated in my feelings towards Beast Wars' representation in the scheme of the brand's 30th Anniversary celebrations. ;)

I totally agree, if Primal wins the votes this would open the door for a Masterpiece sub line and because Beast Wars had such a small cast it would be easier to complete the entire line.

I was abit disappointed with the size and scale of the first series (I still love the figures though) I would really like to see a MP Terrorsaur as the scout version has never done him the justice he deserves.

Tober
15th June 2013, 04:47 PM
From TFW2005


Sorry for overseas guys, 30th anniversary MP fan vote requires TG/Go/GT points.
These points are printed on box or insert of Japanese TG,Go,GT toys.
The vote starts on June 18th.

UltraMagnus
15th June 2013, 06:43 PM
I actually think Powermaster prime could be the easiest one if they use the existing MP10 mould. Makes perfect sense. They are already using it for the Ultra Magnus prototype.

Fort Max Masterpiece would be bigger than my daughter, but serious, how awesome would that be...

Hursticon
15th June 2013, 07:57 PM
From TFW2005

Argh!!!...

I thought that might happen. :(
Hang-on, Goki collects those points and things and sends them off - You'd better be voting for Primal mate! :p:D

doublespy
16th June 2013, 04:02 AM
This better just be a one-off thing for the anniversay. Don't really see a need to make Masterpiece figures for some of these characters. e.g. I don't see space for any substantial and meaningful engineering improvement on Fort Max. AND there's no way to make him in scale, which throws off this thing called scale they've finally established for MP.

On the other hand. An MP Primal will be soooo tempting...But again, scale could be a problem.

VERT
16th June 2013, 08:23 AM
I would like to see MP Prime or Starsaber. Think Starsaber needs some love :D

Verno
16th June 2013, 08:44 AM
Hey VERNO!, you seeing this news mate? :D

Haha, I'm here mate, I'm here :p

Believe it or not, but I actually have a similar thinking to a couple of the guys here -- that the Masterpiece line should remain for G1 characters only.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be one of the first to pre-order an MP Primal (Or Lio or Big Convoy for that matter) but truly I believe that BW-era toys are better served with homages in lines like Generations rather than larger MP versions.

So my vote (for what it's worth) is for Powermaster Prime.

kaiden
16th June 2013, 01:34 PM
takara shoved movie bumblebee and starscream into the MP line didn't they? did those even sell well?

Tetsuwan Convoy
16th June 2013, 01:50 PM
I'd be up for a Fort Maxx, but my vote would go to Ginrai. Or Fattimus ;). How crazy would that be to make cool?

I don't think Beast Wars MPs would work so well. the beast modes would either be a brick (allowing no movement), or all gappy to allow for movement which would kind of suck. Unless they put a skin all over it somehow.

Only the robot mode would really look Masterpiece like. IF they opted for Transmetals, I think they would have more success.

Dai Atlus would make an interesting Masterpiece though.

griffin
16th June 2013, 02:33 PM
I think Powermaster Prime would likely get it, because you have to remember that Japanese customers are going to be the ones who make up most of the votes... and Powermaster Prime (God Ginrai) was a major character in Japan.

Fort Max was also a major cartoon character in Japan, but since it has just been released as an Encore, there wouldn't be much desire to get a "better" version. Which is after all, the point of Masterpiece - to not only be a better version, but be the best version possible of that character with current engineering technology.

From Star Saber onwards you just don't have the same level of "classic/iconic" support of the characters, that the Gen1 series has had (with many later series deriving their concepts and characters from Gen1).
BW Optimus would be another one to do well in Hasbro Markets, but in Japan that cartoon was not a fan-favourite (if I recall) because of how it was turned into more of a joke show.

Basing it on the Japanese market, their fans (who will be voting), and the cartoons they got, I'd be really surprised if God Ginrai didn't get it. Star Saber and Fort Max would probably be fighting over a distant second place... but the rest don't have good odds of winning. (in my opinion)

GoktimusPrime
16th June 2013, 02:58 PM
I'd love to see Dai Atlas... but he's a widely hated character amongst Japanese fans. :(

MayzaPrime
16th June 2013, 04:57 PM
I'd love to see Dai Atlas... but he's a widely hated character amongst Japanese fans. :(

Forgive my ignorance but why is he hated?

Sky Shadow
16th June 2013, 06:58 PM
Forgive my ignorance but why is he hated?

"Widely hated character" is hyperbole for "character who can potentially be considered ultraviolent and dishonourable".

CBratron
16th June 2013, 07:04 PM
Seriously need more Decepticons that aren't seekers.

But if it absolutely had to be one from the list I'd pick Armada Prime.

MayzaPrime
16th June 2013, 07:12 PM
"Widely hated character" is hyperbole for "character who can potentially be considered ultraviolent and dishonourable".

I like those type of characters :D

KaRNiV8L PRiME
17th June 2013, 01:01 AM
Apparently the winner is Fortress Maximus... nooooooooo. I wanted Powermaster Prime

Hursticon
17th June 2013, 03:55 AM
Apparently the winner is Fortress Maximus... nooooooooo. I wanted Powermaster Prime

Really!?! - What an utter waste of a poll, in my opinion; Fire Convoy is more deserving! :rolleyes: - Well, I'll be looking forward to that "in-scale" 4-5ft tall organ collector. :p

griffin
17th June 2013, 03:57 AM
That didn't take long.
It was likely to be one of the first three... but sensible voting should have avoided Fort Max. It is not a character they can do justice to as a Masterpiece, because it would be so tiny compared to the original toy. It might be more articulated, but hardly imposing if it is the same size as the other big MP toys. (imagine the cost if it were 2-3 times bigger than the larger MP toys just to give it better scale)

Sky Shadow
17th June 2013, 09:39 AM
I think this could be good - it would make for a more practically-scaled toy as he was and is (mostly) in the comics.

canofwhoopass_87
17th June 2013, 12:01 PM
No interest in those Japanese G1 MPs whatsoever, but then again this vote was for the Japanese fans hey?

Even if the MP Fortress Maximus design turned out great, I don't think I'd buy it if he wasn't at least two or three times the size of Optimus. Since the release of MP-10 they've been going for cartoon accurate scaling, so I hope that trend continues :D

GoktimusPrime
17th June 2013, 04:45 PM
Forgive my ignorance but why is he hated?
A lot of Japanese fans don't like Dai Atlas because he's utterly ruthless in battle, which is perceived as flying against the standard for Autobot leaders as established by Optimus Prime - the argument that his conduct and ethical standard is "unbecoming" for an Autobot leader and perceived as being more ruthlessly Decepticon-like. In TF Zone, Dai Atlas kills every Decepticon that he comes against rather than trying to show them mercy as Optimus Prime would've done; i.e.
+ Devastator = killed with lava
+ King Poseidon & Trypticon = combined with Sonic Bomber and blasted them both to oblivion
+ Predaking = cut in half (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/56/PredaBrain1.jpg)
...he killed 18 Decepticons in the span of a single episode! :eek: :)

This is just the general consensus of the Japanese fan community, much like how we might say that the Western fan community hates Wheelie or that the Star Wars fandom hates Jar Jar Binks -- obviously not all fans are gonna feel the same way, but that's just generally what the overall perception or feeling toward those character are. :o

I personally like Dai Atlas. Killing one's opponents in battle during a war may be a cruel but logically justifiable action. And in each instance, he killed them while they were trying to kill him (i.e. he responded to lethality with lethality). It's not like say Optimus Prime in Revenge of the Fallen and Dark of the Moon who killed helpless defeated opponents (i.e. Demolishor and Sentinel Prime); that was more like executing POWs. Impactor was imprisoned on Garrus-9 for executing Decepticon POWs on Pova (re: LSotW (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Transformers:_Last_Stand_of_the_Wreckers)). Dai Atlas killed enemy combatants in the middle of combat. And even Optimus Prime's original G1 TFU profile states that his greatest weakness is his compassion and that he would probably be a better military commander if he were more ruthless, but then he simply wouldn't be Optimus Prime! :o

It's arguably more of a sentimental reason rather than a more objectively reasoned or logical one. :o But a lot of fans perceive things more sentimentally than logically, like people who hate the live action films because Optimus Prime's a long nose truck w/ chopper flames instead of a plain red and blue cab-over-engine truck (as opposed to disliking the films for say lack of substantial story or logical plotlines ;)).

Sky Shadow
17th June 2013, 05:39 PM
Apparently the winner is Fortress Maximus... nooooooooo. I wanted Powermaster Prime

Hold on - this is completely wrong. Voting doesn't even start until tomorrow.

Bidoofdude
17th June 2013, 06:52 PM
*shakes hands with cartoon-scaled MP Fort Max.* :p

Lord_Zed
17th June 2013, 08:04 PM
I'd like to see Ginrai. I loved the Powermaster Prime toy as a kid, I'd love to see it given MP treatment, that's one more MP Prime spin off I wouldn't complain about.

doublespy
24th July 2013, 12:04 PM
According to this (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/star-saber-masterpiece-fans-choice-current-leader-interim-report-178071/), Star Saber is leading the poll, followed by Mircron Legend Convoy and Zone Dai Atlas.

It's surprsing that Armada OP is in 2nd place and God Girai didn't make it into top 3...

Trent
24th July 2013, 01:13 PM
According to this (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/star-saber-masterpiece-fans-choice-current-leader-interim-report-178071/), Star Saber is leading the poll, followed by Mircron Legend Convoy and Zone Dai Atlas.

It's surprsing that Armada OP is in 2nd place and God Girai didn't make it into top 3...

Disappointed that Star Saber is leading. I've never really liked that design. Armada Op in 2nd is interesting though.

My pick would be Ginrai. Purely because I had PM Prime as a kid and loved it.

Hursticon
24th July 2013, 07:10 PM
Disappointed that Star Saber is leading. I've never really liked that design. Armada Op in 2nd is interesting though.

My pick would be Ginrai. Purely because I had PM Prime as a kid and loved it.

As am I a little because anyone who would choose a bot other than Primal is an idiot :p:D, but then I just remind myself that this IS a poll for Japanese consumers & isn't meant for anyone else at all. :cool:
(Just kidding about the "idiot" part guys, don't worry ;))

Still, we'd all like to see our preferences get the MP treatment and if that shows anything it's that Takara are doing really well with the line. :)

MayzaPrime
24th July 2013, 07:13 PM
As am I a little because anyone who would choose a bot other than Primal is an idiot :p:D, but then I just remind myself that this IS a poll for Japanese consumers & isn't meant for anyone else at all. :cool:
(Just kidding about the "idiot" part guys, don't worry ;))

Still, we'd all like to see our preferences get the MP treatment and if that shows anything it's that Takara are doing really well with the line. :)

I think a Masterpiece Primal would look awesome standing next to the up coming Voyager Rhinox:p

Hursticon
24th July 2013, 07:26 PM
I think a Masterpiece Primal would look awesome standing next to the up coming Voyager Rhinox:p

^I like this gentleman^ :D:cool:

MayzaPrime
24th July 2013, 07:35 PM
^I like this gentleman^ :D:cool:

Us guys from the Gong have to stick together :D

Trent
24th July 2013, 08:22 PM
As am I a little because anyone who would choose a bot other than Primal is an idiot :p:D, but then I just remind myself that this IS a poll for Japanese consumers & isn't meant for anyone else at all. :cool:
(Just kidding about the "idiot" part guys, don't worry ;))

Still, we'd all like to see our preferences get the MP treatment and if that shows anything it's that Takara are doing really well with the line. :)


I think a Masterpiece Primal would look awesome standing next to the up coming Voyager Rhinox:p

Primal would be great but at his size I couldn't justify him getting MP'd. Not when there is a chance of getting PM Prime;)


Us guys from the Gong have to stick together :D

And you left God's country for Canberra? Did you get run out of town??


:p

drifand
26th July 2013, 10:20 AM
Hopefully if Fortress Maximus wins he'll be roughly the same size as the current MP line in robot mode. I like the way he's treated in the IDW comics as being a large bot, but not a city-former. I don't find any of the other choices particularly interesting.

Same here, Star saber is a bit too space and not realistic, I am unsure what they want to do.

My choice would be Jetfire (original cartoon not VF-1s)
Or Omega Supreme

A proper Ratchet or ironhide?

Preferably anything more G1 than anything else. kind of disappointed if that was the list.

Even Fortress Max is kind of flat for me being the reissue was out not long ago and this is like a kick in your butt for buying it.

tinyJazz
26th July 2013, 11:15 AM
I like Starsaber, I think he looks cool, and he'd make a good MP. Still, I'd prefer an Ultra Magnus, or more G1 bots. (Tracks? So doable, come on!)

Man, I have to finish watching Victory at some point. :p


I think a Masterpiece Primal would look awesome standing next to the up coming Voyager Rhinox:p

Oh yes please, I'll take one! :D I was hoping after Rhinox we'd get an updated Primal.

Jetfire in the sky
31st July 2013, 08:42 PM
Some BW MP's would be really nice. First OP then Blackarachnia :)

MayzaPrime
31st July 2013, 08:46 PM
Primal would be great but at his size I couldn't justify him getting MP'd. Not when there is a chance of getting PM Prime;)



And you left God's country for Canberra? Did you get run out of town??


:p

Hahaha! You could say that!

Megatran
14th November 2013, 02:06 PM
Another forum site is quoting that TakTom will be announcing their Masterpiece Fan's Choice winner next Tuesday 8pm local Japanese time.

I'm sure it'll create more debate.

fatbot
19th November 2013, 07:12 PM
I'm on my phone so can't link it but the results are out... The winner is Star Saber.

I still belive we'll get God Ginari soon though, it's an obvious choice

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 07:16 PM
I'm on my phone so can't link it but the results are out... The winner is Star Saber.

I still belive we'll get God Ginari soon though, it's an obvious choice

Seibertron announcement? - "Star Saber" winning doesn't surprise me in the slightest - should make for an interesting toy though, if not a hella expensive one like the original! :D

MayzaPrime
19th November 2013, 07:17 PM
I'm on my phone so can't link it but the results are out... The winner is Star Saber.

I still belive we'll get God Ginari soon though, it's an obvious choice

Star Sabre, pretty cool choice :cool: I was hoping we would get a re-issue first.

God Ginari would be awesome :D

kup
19th November 2013, 07:18 PM
I am happy. A Star Saber is unusual and a kind of cool MP to have despite the overly Sci-Fi Anime space ship mode.

Hopefully the other 'runner ups' also happen.

MayzaPrime
19th November 2013, 07:20 PM
I am happy. A Star Saber is unusual and a kind of cool MP to have despite the overly Sci-Fi Anime space ship mode.

Hopefully the other 'runner ups' also happen.

Who were the runner-ups?

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 07:20 PM
...I was hoping we would get a re-issue first.

^This^ - We need more Re-issues of the harder to acquire figures. :cool:


God Ginari would be awesome :D

Hell yeah! :D

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 07:33 PM
Well, TFW2005's got some info (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/star-saber-wins-masterpiece-fans-choice-poll-178796/) up:


TakaraTomy is supposed to officially announce the winner to the Transformers Masterpiece Fan's Choice Poll (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-g2-sideswipe-30th-anniversary-masterpiece-fans-choice-characters-revealed-177742/) on YouTube today. However Figure Oh has the jump on them! Via Tag Hobby is a scan (http://www.taghobby.com/1-0/1-1/%E4%B8%8D%E6%96%B7%E6%9B%B4%E6%96%B0-figure%E7%8E%8B-no-190-%E7%8E%A9%E5%85%B7%E5%85%A7%E5%AE%B9/) from Figure Oh #190 in which the results of the poll are listed. Star Saber is the winner! (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/star-saber-masterpiece-fans-choice-current-leader-interim-report-178071/) However how the other characters fared may pique your interest. Micron Legend Monster Convoy, AKA Armada Optimus Prime actually came in 2nd! Here's the list in its entirety, thanks to tackertackle for the translation!

1.STAR SABER
2.CONVOY(ARMADA OP)
3.SUPER GINRAI
4.DAI ATLAS
5.SUPER FIRE CONVOY(RID OP)
6.CONVOY(BW primal)
7.GALAXY CONVOY(Cybertron OP)
8.BIG CONVOY
9.LIO CONVOY
10.GRAND CONVOY(ENERGON OP)
11.FORTRESS MAXIMUS

With the advent of lines such as Transformers Masterpiece and Transformers Classics/Generations, a new, fully articulated Star Saber has been in demand for a long time. How fitting that Star Saber achieved Transformers Victory!

millhouse
19th November 2013, 07:41 PM
Thank god it's a Japanese character that I have ZERO interest in. Great for those who dig it, but my wallet is happy that there's a break in the MP figures for me.

Seriously, between Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Bumblebee, Ultra Magnus, Soundblaster, and the fact that I'm after the flame-sword Grimlock reissue, and see need to catch up on Sideswipe and Red Alert... I'm just glad there's a break on the horizon!

DELTAprime
19th November 2013, 08:04 PM
The poll TFW has up at the moment is not the OFFICIAL poll, it's Figure Oh Magazine's poll. We don't know yet who won the actual poll.

EDIT: looks like I don't know how to read again. Dam I hate being dyslexic.

Trent
19th November 2013, 08:30 PM
Would be very interesting to see the voting breakdown. I am quite surprised that Fort Max came last.

While Star Saber will be very cool, Armada Prime in MP form would rock :D

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 08:35 PM
The poll TFW has up at the moment is not the OFFICIAL poll, it's Figure Oh Magazine's poll. We don't know yet who won the actual poll.

:eek: Oh wow really!?! - That's interesting indeed, thanks for pointing that out dude! ;):cool:

In any case, TakTom have just posted a link to the Announcement YouTube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNS4COKWqPc&feature=share&list=PLhWipIfRhqz0FzWlm-0eLoWhheFDqI4i9), via Twitter (https://twitter.com/takaratomytoys/status/402718358233022464), which is counting down: Currently at 1 hour 25 minutes. :cool:

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:18 PM
Hmm... thus far, the announcement video has reflected the "Oh Magazine" results - currently at Galaxy Convoy...

MayzaPrime
19th November 2013, 10:19 PM
The poll TFW has up at the moment is not the OFFICIAL poll, it's Figure Oh Magazine's poll. We don't know yet who won the actual poll.

Cool so the winner is still yet undecided :cool:

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:23 PM
...into the Top 5 now and thus far Figure Oh Magazine is spot on! - It'll be sad if the results have indeed been leaked prior to the Official announcement :(...

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:28 PM
...Into the Top 3! - No.3 is: Super Ginrai!

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:33 PM
...No.2 is: Micron Convoy!

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:34 PM
No.1 is: Star Saber!
(By process of elimination ;))

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:36 PM
Well... I think it's a bit disappointing that the results were leaked, clearly someone broke Figure Oh Magazine's NDC. :o

Should be interesting to see how a Masterpiece Star Saber will turn out at least. ;):)

MayzaPrime
19th November 2013, 10:41 PM
Well... I think it's a bit disappointing that the results were leaked, clearly someone broke Figure Oh Magazine's NDC. :o

Should be interesting to see how a Masterpiece Star Saber will turn out at least. ;):)

I agree... With all of Star Sabre's modes it should be an awesome figure

DELTAprime
19th November 2013, 10:41 PM
I can't understand a word they are saying but I'm guessing since the keep saying 20 Star Saber must be MP20.

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 10:51 PM
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/untitled_zps112740a6.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/untitled2_zpsd089c102.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/untitled3_zps07c5ba9f.jpg

fatbot
19th November 2013, 11:12 PM
It'd better retain the brain master gimmick

I wonder if it'll combine with victory Leo?

gdmetro
19th November 2013, 11:13 PM
MP Star Saber... amazing! Cannot wait!!!! :D:

Hursticon
19th November 2013, 11:15 PM
It'd better retain the brain master gimmick

The live chat for the video seemed to suggest so, at least the person typing English suggested as much; whether he understood the hosts or is just talking out of his arse? - remains to be seen I guess. :o

reillyd
20th November 2013, 12:29 AM
I never had the original (please reissue!) but I'd definitely pick this one up. Surprised to see Armada prime is so popular

Deonasis
20th November 2013, 06:57 AM
BTW those sketches are from the design of the original toy. They were just showing some reference material like the sketches and some animation cells. Aparently they did ever so briefly show some of the MP design but it was more of a "we'll show you so quickly that you won't actually see much."

Sinnertwin
20th November 2013, 07:18 AM
Victory Leo & Deszaras wouldnt go astray either :D along with Liokaiser, Dinoking, Road Caesar...

DELTAprime
20th November 2013, 08:49 AM
Victory Leo & Deszaras wouldnt go astray either :D along with Liokaiser, Dinoking, Road Caesar...

I doubt we will see more obscure Japanese only characters at this point. A character thats well known in the west like Ultra Magnus for example will make much more money for Takara than Japanese only characters.

fatbot
20th November 2013, 09:21 AM
I doubt we will see more obscure Japanese only characters at this point. A character thats well known in the west like Ultra Magnus for example will make much more money for Takara than Japanese only characters.

I'm not sure if TakTom gives two shits about the western market. The agreement they have with Hasbro doesn't allow them to sell outside Japan.

TakTom will make MP toys according to what they believe Japanese consumers want, not us.

Trent
20th November 2013, 09:34 AM
I'm not sure if TakTom gives two shits about the western market. The agreement they have with Hasbro doesn't allow them to sell outside Japan.

TakTom will make MP toys according to what they believe Japanese consumers want, not us.

They would be silly to ignore the international market though. BBTS, TFSource, Chimungmung, RK to name but a few all sell Takara Products and are all located outside Japan. The numbers that they sell are not insignificant so I'm sure Takara would consider it when they want to maximize sales.

I agree that their primary market is Japan, but if the percentage of international sales is 50% or even only 30%, it's still a big enough number to influence decisions.

Shirokaze
20th November 2013, 09:58 AM
I'm sure Star Saber will be an amazing toy :)

I'm don't really understand Japan's love for Armada Prime though. For me he'd be right down the bottom next to Energon Prime....:confused:

Zommael
20th November 2013, 10:40 AM
If they're making Star Saber then I'd say odds are they'll make Victory Leo as well. They'd damn well better. Victory Saber FTV.

Hursticon
20th November 2013, 11:35 AM
BTW those sketches are from the design of the original toy. They were just showing some reference material like the sketches and some animation cells. Aparently they did ever so briefly show some of the MP design but it was more of a "we'll show you so quickly that you won't actually see much."

Well, shows that I clearly don't understand a lick of Japanese! :p:o
Still, they're wicked design sketches and the animation Cels were rather cool too. ;):cool:


If they're making Star Saber then I'd say odds are they'll make Victory Leo as well. They'd damn well better. Victory Saber FTV.

Hmm... I don't know about that as this particular Masterpiece figure is apparently meant to be a 30th Anniversary once-off - That said, there's little to stop them from following up with an MP Victory Leo at some point though. :)

GoktimusPrime
20th November 2013, 11:36 AM
I never had the original (please reissue!) but I'd definitely pick this one up.
The G1 toy is rubbish IMHO (although I would still buy a reissue if they made it). An MP Star Sabre would be most welcome. :)


They would be silly to ignore the international market though. BBTS, TFSource, Chimungmung, RK to name but a few all sell Takara Products and are all located outside Japan. The numbers that they sell are not insignificant so I'm sure Takara would consider it when they want to maximize sales.

I agree that their primary market is Japan, but if the percentage of international sales is 50% or even only 30%, it's still a big enough number to influence decisions.
It's not a matter of whether or not TakaraTOMY wants to consider the international market - as fatbot pointed out, they are contractually forbidden from doing so. Both Hasbro and Takara have a long standing agreement between each other that disallows them from cross-competing with each other's markets. So when Takara develops products they have to disregard any considerations for anything outside of their market, and likewise for Hasbro.

There have been times when both companies have agreed to collaborate on developing products to suit both markets - Transformers Armada is an example of this. But Takara won't develop a product for their market while explicitly catering for Hasbro's nor vice versa. This is why TakaraTOMY goes ahead and produces toys that Hasbro can never release such as G1 Megatron reissues and MP Megatron. And they have reissued Japanese exclusive G1 figures before that Hasbro are unlikely to release such as Landcross and Star Convoy. Hasbro were able to release their own version of God Ginrai, but marketed as Apex Armour Powermaster Optimus Prime (even though the Ginrai mould has some notable differences from PMOP).

Deonasis
20th November 2013, 11:46 AM
I don't really understand Japan's love for Armada Prime though. For me he'd be right down the bottom next to Energon Prime....:confused:

Just thinking about the toys (not characters, not series) in this poll, imagine a very much improved Armada Prime. The placegetters are all the bricks that are most in need of articulation. And just like the Starsaber toy, think of the combinations he can form with other figures that could be released later if it sells well. Also the improvements that can be made to Armada Prime are far greater than say the already pretty great Cybertron Prime.

And yes, Fort Max is also a brick and he finished last but many people just bought an Encore of him.

I think the combining abilities of the top 3 will not be lost on Takara. Fans want Masterpieces to explore this territory.

BigTransformerTrev
20th November 2013, 11:50 AM
Personally I wouldn't mind a Star Sabre or Dai Atlas. As for the other top 3 of the top 5, I already have them as well as about a million other iterations of Optimus, so would most likely bypass them.

liegeprime
20th November 2013, 11:51 AM
I wonder if, they'll do another poll with Decepticons this time in the list? I still want a MP 10 sizing match MP (G1) Megatron.

Hursticon
20th November 2013, 12:01 PM
A quick tidbit from good 'ole SydneyY over on TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/963038-takara-masterpiece-fans-choice-winner-star-saber-48.html#post10288391):

Watching the youtube streaming...super fun. Hisashi Yuki will be in charge of MP Star Saber, and he's already on it :D

Hursticon
20th November 2013, 12:07 PM
Also, for those interested, here's the overall Vote breakdown:

Star Saber - 31.2%
Micron Densetsu Convoy - 24.3%
Super Ginrai - 18.6%
Dia Atlas - 8.0%
Super Fire Convoy - 4.9%
BW Convoy - 4.6%
Galaxy Convoy - 2.5%
Big Convoy - 2.1%
Lio Convoy - 2.0%
Grand Convoy - 1.5%
Fort Max - 0.3%

doublespy
20th November 2013, 12:24 PM
A quick tidbit from good 'ole SydneyY over on TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/963038-takara-masterpiece-fans-choice-winner-star-saber-48.html#post10288391):

Great. Can't wait to see what Yuki san brings to the table.

I'm still eagerly awaiting SydneyY's Generations 2013 book interview translation:p

Sinnertwin
20th November 2013, 12:30 PM
Cheers for the play by play too, Hursti :) My internets was being difficult last night during youtube's reveal.

Hursticon
20th November 2013, 12:32 PM
I'm still eagerly awaiting SydneyY's Generations 2013 book interview translation:p

Indeed! - SydneyY and his Translating cohorts provide an amazing service to the greater fandom. ;):)


Cheers for the play by play too, Hursti :) My internets was being difficult last night during youtube's reveal.

Hehe, no probs dude - Just wanted to pass along the info as it happened. :cool:

Trent
20th November 2013, 01:35 PM
The G1 toy is rubbish IMHO (although I would still buy a reissue if they made it). An MP Star Sabre would be most welcome. :)


It's not a matter of whether or not TakaraTOMY wants to consider the international market - as fatbot pointed out, they are contractually forbidden from doing so. Both Hasbro and Takara have a long standing agreement between each other that disallows them from cross-competing with each other's markets. So when Takara develops products they have to disregard any considerations for anything outside of their market, and likewise for Hasbro.

There have been times when both companies have agreed to collaborate on developing products to suit both markets - Transformers Armada is an example of this. But Takara won't develop a product for their market while explicitly catering for Hasbro's nor vice versa. This is why TakaraTOMY goes ahead and produces toys that Hasbro can never release such as G1 Megatron reissues and MP Megatron. And they have reissued Japanese exclusive G1 figures before that Hasbro are unlikely to release such as Landcross and Star Convoy. Hasbro were able to release their own version of God Ginrai, but marketed as Apex Armour Powermaster Optimus Prime (even though the Ginrai mould has some notable differences from PMOP).

That's the case officially but the fact remains that almost any online retailer that wants them can stock and sell Takara TFs. When BBTS put in their order for Encore Fort Max or MP Prowl Takara didn't say "Sorry, you're covered by Hasbro's market, you'll have to wait for them to release it." They sold them as many as BBTS wanted knowing that they were mostly for the American market.

Megatran
20th November 2013, 02:40 PM
I wonder if, they'll do another poll with Decepticons this time in the list?

AGREE whole heartedly Liegeprime. I would welcome the Insecticons.

The voting list is boring. Too many iterations of OP.

Deonasis
20th November 2013, 03:18 PM
AGREE whole heartedly Liegeprime. I would welcome the Insecticons.

The voting list is boring. Too many iterations of OP.Because it was a poll of the Autobot Leaders. A Decepticon Leaders poll won't get you any Insecticons quicker. :rolleyes:

..but a Decepticons Leaders poll would be delicious :eek:

GoktimusPrime
20th November 2013, 04:28 PM
That's the case officially but the fact remains that almost any online retailer that wants them can stock and sell Takara TFs. When BBTS put in their order for Encore Fort Max or MP Prowl Takara didn't say "Sorry, you're covered by Hasbro's market, you'll have to wait for them to release it." They sold them as many as BBTS wanted knowing that they were mostly for the American market.
That's because they're specialist importers. If regular overseas retailers like say Toys R Us, Target, Kmart etc. wanted to release TakaraTOMY TFs, they would refuse. The only way they can do it is to import it through Hasbro. That's how we've had Takara(TOMY) TFs sold in regular Australian stores in the past (e.g. MP Ultra Magnus, MP04, MP Ghost Starscream etc.) - they would have been distributed by Hasbro Australia. Those store chains didn't source them directly from Takara(TOMY). Specialist import stores would, but of course in Australia they get slapped with loads of import taxes, duties, levies etc. which often doubles their original prices when sold here.

Hasbro would sell their stock to specialist importers in Japan too (e.g. Mandarake, Jungle, Hero Gangu etc.), but regular store chains in Japan (e.g. Daimaru, Itoyokado, Bic Camera, Seibu, Tobu, TRU etc.) normally don't sell Hasbro TFs, and if they did it would be distributed by TakaraTOMY. So Hasbro and TakaraTOMY can sell products in each other's markets with permission from the other party -- but they don't develop products with each other's markets in mind, unless it's a dual project where they're developing something in tandem. This is what Takara have explicitly stated. Is there any evidence to the contrary or only speculation?

UltraMarginal
20th November 2013, 04:59 PM
it is a boring list if only because I don't know who most of those primes are.

the winner: Star Saber is a character I've yet to see on a screen. I assume it's from one of the follow on series in Japan from G1.

I'm working my way through that ever so slowly. I stopped when Prime started and I haven't picked it back up yet.

another series I'm yet to watch all the way through is the Unicron trilogy. I am part of the way into Armada. Snoore.

I expect a similar poll here(western culture) would be G1 Prime, G1 Rodimus prime, BW Primal, BM Primal, RID Prime, Unicron Trilogy Primes, Animated Prime or Magnus, Movie Prime and Prime Prime. two of these have already been done.

Apart from the first magnus MP and rodimus MP(i have the hasbro version) this will be the first MP that I skip entirely.

Kranix
20th November 2013, 05:08 PM
Also, for those interested, here's the overall Vote breakdown:

Star Saber - 31.2%
Micron Densetsu Convoy - 24.3%
Super Ginrai - 18.6%
Dia Atlas - 8.0%
Super Fire Convoy - 4.9%
BW Convoy - 4.6%
Galaxy Convoy - 2.5%
Big Convoy - 2.1%
Lio Convoy - 2.0%
Grand Convoy - 1.5%
Fort Max - 0.3%


Shows my TF universe ignorance, on that list I only know Fort Max...

I wont be purchasing this MP figure but I hope others who love the character get the figure they want.

Myself, I am still REALLY hoping that they release G1 Jazz in MP form! :cool:

Paulbot
20th November 2013, 05:14 PM
the winner: Star Saber is a character I've yet to see on a screen. I assume it's from one of the follow on series in Japan from G1.

The only time I recall Star Saber appearing in Western Material (outside cameo/background type situations) was IDW comic spoilers as a bad guy in MTMTE comics, so you could have him fight your the MP Ultra Magnus since they both seem to be the latest bots to wear particular powerful armour! ;)

liegeprime
20th November 2013, 05:29 PM
Because it was a poll of the Autobot Leaders. A Decepticon Leaders poll won't get you any Insecticons quicker. :rolleyes:

..but a Decepticons Leaders poll would be delicious :eek:

somehow reading this Im hearing it in my head in Shrapnel's voice:p

Wel for Decepticon leaders Wed prolly have a shorter list, but yeah I find the villains roster always more exciting and interesting than the heroes even when I was a kid.

We'd prolly get a list like
1. G1 Megatron - they better make this size compatible and non anorexic.
2. Arms Micron Megatron - Meh for me H tank with scissors helmet , meh
3. Energon Megatron _ Which they can retool actually for a MP Galvatron
4. Beast Megatron - Tyrannosaur, oooh they can make an MP rubber duckie!!
5. Master Megatron - I don't even own the Cyb figure - not interesting for me
6. G1 Galvatron - Oh yeah - he can also come with those head sparky things like Red alert, coz you know, he's crazy!
7. Scorponok - this , thumbs up but G1 megs first
8. Overlord - Same for this
9. Black Zarak - ditto
10. G2 Megatron (tank) - If they can't make G1 megs, Id settle for this definitely. Will work well posing with Gi Joes (eherrmm Cobras) too
11. RiD Megatron (multichanger) an MP hand hahahah, uh no thanks
12. Beast Metals Megatron - Big red MP metallic Dragon, hell yeah!
13. Dezaras - Kaiju!!!

Hursticon
20th November 2013, 05:34 PM
Shows my TF universe ignorance, on that list I only know Fort Max...

Just in case there's any confusion :o, here is the list with Western names included:

Star Saber (Star Saber (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Star_Saber_%28Victory%29)) - 31.2%
Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29)) - 24.3%
Super Ginrai (Powermaster Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Powermaster)) - 18.6%
Dai Atlas (Dai Atlas (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dai_Atlas)) - 8.0%
Super Fire Convoy (Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28RID%29)) - 4.9%
BW Convoy (Beast Wars Optimus Primal (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal)) - 4.6%
Galaxy Convoy (Cybertron Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29/Cartoon_continuity#Cybertron_cartoon)) - 2.5%
Big Convoy (Big Convoy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Big_Convoy)) - 2.1%
Lio Convoy (Lio Convoy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lio_Convoy)) - 2.0%
Grand Convoy (Energon Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29/Cartoon_continuity#Energon_cartoon)) - 1.5%
Fort Max (Fortress Maximus (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fortress_Maximus_%28G1%29)) - 0.3%

Sinnertwin
20th November 2013, 07:08 PM
And then there is the obligatory black repaint option as per the 2005 eHobby Robot Masters release. I'd be up for both :D

Kranix
20th November 2013, 09:26 PM
Just in case there's any confusion :o, here is the list with Western names included:

Star Saber (Star Saber (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Star_Saber_%28Victory%29)) - 31.2%
Micron Densetsu Convoy (Armada Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29)) - 24.3%
Super Ginrai (Powermaster Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Powermaster)) - 18.6%
Dai Atlas (Dai Atlas (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dai_Atlas)) - 8.0%
Super Fire Convoy (Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28RID%29)) - 4.9%
BW Convoy (Beast Wars Optimus Primal (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal)) - 4.6%
Galaxy Convoy (Cybertron Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29/Cartoon_continuity#Cybertron_cartoon)) - 2.5%
Big Convoy (Big Convoy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Big_Convoy)) - 2.1%
Lio Convoy (Lio Convoy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lio_Convoy)) - 2.0%
Grand Convoy (Energon Optimus Prime (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Armada%29/Cartoon_continuity#Energon_cartoon)) - 1.5%
Fort Max (Fortress Maximus (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fortress_Maximus_%28G1%29)) - 0.3%


Thanks for that, although I only know two now, Fort Max and Powermaster Optimus Prime :o I am a G1 nut and I guess it shows :D

Tetsuwan Convoy
20th November 2013, 10:33 PM
Kinda sad that Grand Convoy rats higher than Fort Max, but I guess, Grand Convoy is a toy much more in need of improvement over Maxx ;):P

Bidoofdude
20th November 2013, 10:33 PM
somehow reading this Im hearing it in my head in Shrapnel's voice:p

Wel for Decepticon leaders Wed prolly have a shorter list, but yeah I find the villains roster always more exciting and interesting than the heroes even when I was a kid.

We'd prolly get a list like
1. G1 Megatron - they better make this size compatible and non anorexic.
2. Arms Micron Megatron - Meh for me H tank with scissors helmet , meh
3. Energon Megatron _ Which they can retool actually for a MP Galvatron
4. Beast Megatron - Tyrannosaur, oooh they can make an MP rubber duckie!!
5. Master Megatron - I don't even own the Cyb figure - not interesting for me
6. G1 Galvatron - Oh yeah - he can also come with those head sparky things like Red alert, coz you know, he's crazy!
7. Scorponok - this , thumbs up but G1 megs first
8. Overlord - Same for this
9. Black Zarak - ditto
10. G2 Megatron (tank) - If they can't make G1 megs, Id settle for this definitely. Will work well posing with Gi Joes (eherrmm Cobras) too
11. RiD Megatron (multichanger) an MP hand hahahah, uh no thanks
12. Beast Metals Megatron - Big red MP metallic Dragon, hell yeah!
13. Dezaras - Kaiju!!!

Galvatron all the way!

Ode to a Grasshopper
20th November 2013, 11:51 PM
somehow reading this Im hearing it in my head in Shrapnel's voice:p

Wel for Decepticon leaders Wed prolly have a shorter list, but yeah I find the villains roster always more exciting and interesting than the heroes even when I was a kid.

We'd prolly get a list like
1. G1 Megatron - they better make this size compatible and non anorexic.
2. Arms Micron Megatron - Meh for me H tank with scissors helmet , meh
3. Energon Megatron _ Which they can retool actually for a MP Galvatron
4. Beast Megatron - Tyrannosaur, oooh they can make an MP rubber duckie!!
5. Master Megatron - I don't even own the Cyb figure - not interesting for me
6. G1 Galvatron - Oh yeah - he can also come with those head sparky things like Red alert, coz you know, he's crazy!
7. Scorponok - this , thumbs up but G1 megs first
8. Overlord - Same for this
9. Black Zarak - ditto
10. G2 Megatron (tank) - If they can't make G1 megs, Id settle for this definitely. Will work well posing with Gi Joes (eherrmm Cobras) too
11. RiD Megatron (multichanger) an MP hand hahahah, uh no thanks
12. Beast Metals Megatron - Big red MP metallic Dragon, hell yeah!
13. Dezaras - Kaiju!!!Oh what I wouldn't give for an MP dragon Megatron. Pity it'll probably never happen...:(

griffin
21st November 2013, 02:45 AM
Was the original poll asking for people to vote for their favourite Autobot leader, or the Autobot leader they'd want to see as a Masterpiece toy?

If the latter, it might explain why there are some popular characters beaten by some "brick" toys.

theshape
21st November 2013, 09:32 AM
We need a mp-10 scale Megatron badly

Deonasis
21st November 2013, 09:51 AM
Was the original poll asking for people to vote for their favourite Autobot leader, or the Autobot leader they'd want to see as a Masterpiece toy?

If the latter, it might explain why there are some popular characters beaten by some "brick" toys.Vote for your favourite with the knowledge that the winning Autobot leader would be turned into a Masterpiece. So yes, the older brick characters rose to the top.

Hursticon
21st November 2013, 10:15 AM
Oh what I wouldn't give for an MP dragon Megatron. Pity it'll probably never happen...:(

...Masterpiece: Beast Wars, Transmetal 2 - Megatron?

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/lordofthefiles_homer-drool.gif

villeneuve
24th November 2013, 01:51 AM
I would like to see a Masterpiece Fortress Maximux but i know it almost impossible wish....

Megatran
1st March 2014, 11:43 AM
Does anyone know if MP Star Saber will be released this year, if at all???

Sinnertwin
1st March 2014, 01:23 PM
Does anyone know if MP Star Saber will be released this year, if at all???

it should be.
There's a different designer leading the project on Saber, so it won't clash with the regular MP line up.

Trent
1st March 2014, 02:05 PM
It'll be end of year though I imagine.

I'm keen to see how they go about this.

Hursticon
1st March 2014, 08:53 PM
Normally it takes them about 2 years to fully nut-out a figure, I can understand Windblade occurring in just over a year as her tooling is that of a mere Deluxe and she is to coincide with the 30th Anniversary of the brand; but even with a slight head-start, development-wise, leading up to the tally of votes for Japan's Fan Vote Masterpiece - I seriously cannot fathom them pulling off something similar with a figure who's engineering & scale is of such a marked increase in intricacy. :o

I'll be extremely happy to be proven wrong, but I personally don't believe we'll see MP Starsaber until late 2015. :cool:

DELTAprime
1st March 2014, 11:19 PM
Normally it takes them about 2 years to fully nut-out a figure, I can understand Windblade occurring in just over a year as her tooling is that of a mere Deluxe and she is to coincide with the 30th Anniversary of the brand; but even with a slight head-start, development-wise, leading up to the tally of votes for Japan's Fan Vote Masterpiece - I seriously cannot fathom them pulling off something similar with a figure who's engineering & scale is of such a marked increase in intricacy. :o

I'll be extremely happy to be proven wrong, but I personally don't believe we'll see MP Starsaber until late 2015. :cool:

I don't know how much engineering your expecting them to put into it but I'm not expecting something on the order of MP-09, MP-10 or MP-13 since the original Star Saber has a non-Earth based alt mode thats already almost cartoon accurate (just needs to be made a little sleeker). I imaging they will use a fairly similar body to the G1 toy with a bit more articulation as well as adding the new detail to the Brainmaster and cockpit they said they are working on in the announcement live stream.

I'd like to be wrong but I think it's a going to be a rush job that will be very similar to the G1 toy except in that areas I mentioned. I'll still get it without hesitation as I want a Star Saber but I'm ready to be disappointed.

Hursticon
2nd March 2014, 04:06 PM
I don't know how much engineering your expecting them to put into it...

More than the 2 year development cycle for a standard deluxe toy incurs. :cool:

GoktimusPrime
2nd March 2014, 09:40 PM
If Hasbro decided to release their own version of MP Star Sabre, it'd be interesting if they included a Great Sword with it. They could reuse that same weapon mould if TakTOM ever decided to do an MP Dai Atlas and Hasbro decided to release that too. ;) For Burning Justice! :o

Trent
3rd March 2014, 09:49 AM
I don't know how much engineering your expecting them to put into it but I'm not expecting something on the order of MP-09, MP-10 or MP-13 since the original Star Saber has a non-Earth based alt mode thats already almost cartoon accurate (just needs to be made a little sleeker). I imaging they will use a fairly similar body to the G1 toy with a bit more articulation as well as adding the new detail to the Brainmaster and cockpit they said they are working on in the announcement live stream.

I'd like to be wrong but I think it's a going to be a rush job that will be very similar to the G1 toy except in that areas I mentioned. I'll still get it without hesitation as I want a Star Saber but I'm ready to be disappointed.

If it's not on par with MP level engineering then it's not a Masterpiece. I fully expect it to be up there with MP-10 level engineering because, really, MP-10 ain't that complicated. I hope it's NOTHING like the G1 toy because that thing is a brick. It's more a statue than a toy. To carry the Masterpiece title I would fully expect Takara to not do a half-arsed job. Especially for the 30th anniversary MP.

GoktimusPrime
3rd March 2014, 11:19 AM
^This. G1 Star Sabre is a pretty crappy toy, even by G1 standards.

canofwhoopass_87
4th March 2014, 09:57 PM
Oh man a Japanese G1 figure as the 30th Anniversary MP? Have no interest in it at all. I guess it opens up new doors though for the collectors that voted Star Sabre in.

Sinnertwin
4th March 2014, 10:49 PM
Oh man a Japanese G1 figure as the 30th Anniversary MP? Have no interest in it at all. I guess it opens up new doors though for the collectors that voted Star Sabre in.

It may have been a different result if it was an international poll but, what d'ya do?

Trent
5th March 2014, 07:12 AM
It may have been a different result if it was an international poll but, what d'ya do?

Then we probably would have got an MP super-pants Prime. Which would have been awesome. But Star Saber is pretty damn cool too.

optimus1
5th March 2014, 09:02 AM
I'm very interested on how Star Saber would turn out. I'd be curious to see how they would improve him to MP standards. I might actually get him!

yoshi594
12th March 2014, 08:57 PM
^This. G1 Star Sabre is a pretty crappy toy, even by G1 standards.

he looked awesome though! Eagerly looking forward to this release. I just hope they incorporate the necessary features for a masterpiece Victory Sabre to be realised!

I don't want to double dip into star sabre just so that he can combine with victory leo unless the improvements made upon him are on the scale with mp-01 to mp-10.

Tober
21st March 2014, 12:43 AM
Concept sketches for MP Star Saber.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/tx4k09Q_zpsa61eebef.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/tx4k09Q_zpsa61eebef.jpg.html)

griffin
21st March 2014, 01:37 AM
Please people - remember to mention the source of your news, by way of name or link (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=7477).

Trent
21st March 2014, 02:20 PM
Concept sketches for MP Star Saber.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/tx4k09Q_zpsa61eebef.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/tx4k09Q_zpsa61eebef.jpg.html)

I saw tha last night on TFW in the MP speculation thread but people were too busy gushing over the UM sillouette that I don't think they noticed Star Saber :rolleyes:

MayzaPrime
22nd March 2014, 09:20 AM
Star Sabre is going to be epic!

Hursticon
23rd March 2014, 10:21 PM
Man I can't wait for this bloke! - I REALLY want to see how they handle the "Brainmaster/Motorvator" gimmick, if at all. ;):cool:

Trent
23rd March 2014, 11:21 PM
Man I can't wait for this bloke! - I REALLY want to see how they handle the "Brainmaster/Motorvator" gimmick, if at all. ;):cool:

I wouldn't be surprised, or disappointed if they left it out. But if its there and doesn't adversely affect the figure overall then that'd be cool too.

Sinnertwin
24th March 2014, 08:23 PM
I'll be all over this as soon as the orders go live.
Then i'll be posting about how i'd like a Deszaras, Victory Leo, Liokaiser & Dinoking to go with him :p :D

BigTransformerTrev
24th March 2014, 08:36 PM
Oh man a Japanese G1 figure as the 30th Anniversary MP? Have no interest in it at all. I guess it opens up new doors though for the collectors that voted Star Sabre in.

I dunno, I used to feel the same. Then quite a while ago a friend who was shagging a guy at Madmen got me all the box sets for free. Can't say it made me a fan of the Japanese G1 series (never felt the urge to rewatch) but it did open my eyes to how much bigger G1 was than I realized. Plus the likes of Star Sabre, Metalhawk and Dai Atlas showing up in IDW has raised my interest even more. Will definitely consider picking this figure up depending on price :)

Hursticon
24th March 2014, 11:12 PM
I wouldn't be surprised, or disappointed if they left it out. But if its there and doesn't adversely affect the figure overall then that'd be cool too.

It's entirely possible that they may leave it out, but I reckon that the constraints placed on the original design should/could be a little looser nowadays. ;)
Even if they just remove the spring-basis to the gimmick and perhaps have something more akin to a traditional Headmaster, I think that'd be better than nothing. :)


I'll be all over this as soon as the orders go live.
Then i'll be posting about how i'd like a Deszaras, Victory Leo, Liokaiser & Dinoking to go with him :p :D


I'll be right with you on Deszaras for sure! :D

Omega Metro
22nd May 2014, 10:50 AM
I'm a bit late to this thread as I don't like Masterpieces. But I may bite on this. That MP Star Saber looks great if that concept drawing is anything to go by. But won't get my hopes up as it may end up looking like a G1 brick.

Trent
13th June 2014, 10:12 PM
From TFW: (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/963038-takara-masterpiece-fans-choice-winner-star-saber-39.html#post11157795)

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/776a226799b39eb45b0eac08baabea5e.jpg

Apparently more will be revealed tomorrow...

GoktimusPrime
14th June 2014, 09:03 AM
But won't get my hopes up as it may end up looking like a G1 brick.
Which would be quite faithful to the original G1 Star Sabre toy. :p