MP 20 Wheeljack and 21 Bumblebee

[KalEl]

MP 20 - Wheeljack and MP 21 Bumbleebee have been confirmed, not pictures at this stage but more info at it comes.
Price point at BBTS is $80 so im hoping BB comes with some stuff :)
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=13061&utm_source=Youtube&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=KalELofKrypton87

[Mr_K]

Will be waiting for Hasbro releases this time....feel a bit burnt with Takara MP Soundwave compared to Hasbro price.

[Koroboo]

Do... want!

Now for some pics.

Later this year is gonna be pretty pricey, what with soundwave/acidstorm coming locally and these becoming more widely available for preorder.

[kaiden]

thats awesome news! all this autobot car goodness! does that mean wheeljack will be retooled into tracks? like the generations version? and bumblebee will have 'all those other guys' :p

[gamblor916]

One would weep with joy upon hearing such news.

[Megatron]

There's also the new MP 12G - G2 Sideswipe (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11726&mode=retail), $89.99 on Preorder from BBTS.

[VERT]

does that mean wheeljack will be retooled into tracks? like the generations version?

I hope not. Tracks needs to be his own figure not just a retool.

Its great and welcome news. I hope they dont keep us waiting long for Jazz though.

[UltraMarginal]

does that mean wheeljack will be retooled into tracks?

I hope not, wheel jack is a Lancia Stratos and Tracks is a corvette, so totally differnt. it works OK for the Generations line. But if they're doing a proper G1 likeness like they have for all the other recent MP's they cannot afford to repaint one of those into the other.

even Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were different models of car in their original release.

this news though is awesome, I'm starting to wonder whether I'll start to curb my mainline transformers spending in favour of just getting all the MP toys. My hopes of a Masterpiece Jazz are stronger than ever.

[Trent]

this news though is awesome, I'm starting to wonder whether I'll start to curb my mainline transformers spending in favour of just getting all the MP toys. My hopes of a Masterpiece Jazz are stronger than ever.
Same. I believe the only way forward for me is as a MP collector. :(

[Robzy]

WOW :eek: Incredible news!!


Same. I believe the only way forward for me is as a MP collector. :(
100% agreed! Mind you, this has been what I've been doing for over a year now. MPs (and the Encores I don't have) are all I'm buying.

[VERT]

Same. I believe the only way forward for me is as a MP collector. :(

Good to hear others are thinking this. I also having that feeling.

[Bidoofdude]

Pumped for Bumblebee myself. I hope he comes with more accesories, as I'd prefer him to be a little cheaper if he was just on his own.

[Lint]

Great news! Can't wait for the Lancia Stratos and I sincerely hope for the original VW beetle rather than some surprise Camaro:p


Good to hear others are thinking this. I also having that feeling.

Well if it makes you feel any better that's the general direction I have been headed also.

[Gasaraki]

Droool.... I'm really really interested to see how Wheeljack turns out!

Can't help having that 'another Bumblebee' feeling, but also interested to see how Takara does an MP version. The ArtFire one comes to close to MP class I think.

[Sinnertwin]

Nice :) I read CBratron's post last night before i headed off in the speculation thread and it put a big smile on my face :D
I'm thinking MP's 22 & 23 might have a Porsche theme to them

[BigTransformerTrev]

I never grabbed MP Thundercracker. Starting to wish I had as I'm starting to think like the rest of you re: getting all the MP's. Then again due to funds I did bypass Ultra Magnus.

MP Bbee & Wheeljack - awesome! Really looking forward to Wheeljack. Bumblebee I will reserve my excitment until whether they announce if it will be a VW Bug

[Ae-Evolution]

Yay! Really wanting Wheeljack. Gettinf ro the point of too many pre orders though and woth the dropping dollar, this isn't looking good for my $$$ at the end of the year. This will create a total of 6 massive pre orders.

[janda the red]

Will be waiting for Hasbro releases this time....feel a bit burnt with Takara MP Soundwave compared to Hasbro price.

have i missed something or do we know that these will be released by hasbro also?

:)

[Sinnertwin]

have i missed something or do we know that these will be released by hasbro also?

:)

No confirmation yet. Considering they skipped Sideswipe and Red Alert, i personally doubt they'll release Prowl, Streak, Smokescreen and Wheeljack under the Hasbro banner. We'll have to wait and see how they play it with those characrters.
Bumblebee on the other hand is a whole different kettle of fish. The fact that he's everywhere may persuade Hasbro to do something.

[janda the red]

cheers...

thanks sinnertwin :)

[Paulbot]

Um, haven't BBTS been wrong about pre-listings before though?

That said, if an eventual Masterpiece Bumblebee actually looked like the picture BBTS is using, I would love it. Screw "Cartoon model" accuracy, how about some more "Box art model" accuracy?

[Shirokaze]

I wasn't expecting Wheeljack! :eek:

However I'm a little disappointed that it's not Jazz. Hopefully since they've managed to get the Volkswagen license, it'll open up the floodgates for the other companies under the VAG banner. :)

[doublespy]

I'm not too worried about Bumblebee being something other than a beetle. If they didn't get the okay from VW I doubt they would go ahead with Bumblebee. MP 2.0 has been doing too well for TT to ruin its consistancy.:D

[Trent]

I'm not too worried about Bumblebee being something other than a beetle. If they didn't get the okay from VW I doubt they would go ahead with Bumblebee. MP 2.0 has been doing too well for TT to ruin its consistancy.:D

Agreed. If they didn't have a Beetle license then we wouldn't be seeing Bumblebee. Remember the whole point of the MP line is G1 accuracy. So the ONLY reason we would get a MP BB is because Takara have secured the license.

And wow. Has anyone looked at the release dates? These things are anywhere from 9 months to a full year away (assuming no delays) :eek::(

[crankcase76]

Tfsource have their preorder MP 20&21 up for $79.95. So it's a consistent pricing it looks like. :)

[Bidoofdude]

It says second quarter of 2014 on the BBTS listing.

Either the $79.99 is a placeholder for an official price, based on the other cars released, OR he'll come with some stuff, are my only explanations for the BB price. ;)

[Lordy]

Kinda sad there isn't any more Decepticons. Wouldn't mind seeing what Wheeljack looks like

[liegeprime]

Kinda sad there isn't any more Decepticons. Wouldn't mind seeing what Wheeljack looks like

well there is still the subject of a new Megatron MP that hasn't been addressed. I ean they reissued Prime in the new smaller version, They have to realize we need his opposite number too. Not that they care what we buyers thinks though:mad:

[Sky Shadow]

That said, if an eventual Masterpiece Bumblebee actually looked like the picture BBTS is using, I would love it. Screw "Cartoon model" accuracy, how about some more "Box art model" accuracy?

Plus one. :)


Agreed. If they didn't have a Beetle license then we wouldn't be seeing Bumblebee. Remember the whole point of the MP line is G1 accuracy.

"G1 accuracy" means he could transform into a spaceship. And "G1 Accuracy" would also mean Black Rodimus, Tigertrack, Bay Starscream, Bay Bumblebee and the upcoming G2 Sideswipe and Acid Storm aren't Masterpieces or don't exist. (I'm playing Unicron's advocate - of course he'll be a Volkswagen.)

[optimus1]

I reaaaaly hope they make these two work - I still want my MP Martini G1 Jazz :)

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm happy with their Classics versions but it's gonna be hard to turn either of those two down, especially if Bumblebee is made so he works with the Spike figure that came with MP10 and/or remolded into Goldbug.

[Bidoofdude]

The latest talk on the other boards seem to be about his head. I hope it's hexagonal and pudgy like his cartoon self, rather than the thin faced version with more yellow. :D

That said, I would like to see a faceplate head as well, seeing as he's 80 bloody dollars. ;)

[doublespy]

well there is still the subject of a new Megatron MP that hasn't been addressed. I ean they reissued Prime in the new smaller version, They have to realize we need his opposite number too. Not that they care what we buyers thinks though:mad:

I thought MP 20 would totally be Megatron:(

But Hasui said in the MP10 interview that Megatron 2.0 would be "too easy" to do after they just re-did Convoy 2.0 (granted it's 11 MP numbers ago now!) and he wanted to have more variety in the MP line. Megs don't have no licensing issues, Hasui might have wanted to save him for later:D

[Iriorne]

The latest talk on the other boards seem to be about his head. I hope it's hexagonal and pudgy like his cartoon self, rather than the thin faced version with more yellow. :D

Recent MP releases have been almost slavish to the G1 cartoon appearance. I would bet heavily on that trend continuing. :)

[CBratron]

Those preorder listings are based on preliminary info only. It could be just speculation and I'm damn sure those won't be the final prices.

[Cat]

I don't know about the pricing. I've heard that Smokescreen may end up being up to 10 dollars more, compared to his predecessors.

If so, $80 BBTS price doesn't seem that unlikely. Remember we're probably looking at realistic alt mode here, and not the penny racer. I think it's going to be a compressed robot mode, which works fine for me.

Definitely want both heads though. The final design would influence which I display it with. If it's not slavish to the animation he'll probably get the battle-mask on my shelf.

Realistic vs penny racer proportions is going to be quite the conundrum for Cliffjumper though. He's just not going to look right either way.

[Sky Shadow]

I thought MP 20 would totally be Megatron:(

But Hasui said in the MP10 interview that Megatron 2.0 would be "too easy" to do after they just re-did Convoy 2.0 (granted it's 11 MP numbers ago now!) and he wanted to have more variety in the MP line. Megs don't have no licensing issues, Hasui might have wanted to save him for later:D

Megatron would not be a good use of resources. Why make a mould that can't be sold in half the world and has few recolour options to recoup costs?

[Lint]

Megatron would not be a good use of resources. Why make a mould that can't be sold in half the world and has few recolour options to recoup costs?

Because you're Takara and you're awesome to fans :cool:

For example

The first MP Megs
MP Grimlock
MP Rodimus
That Unicron guy

[Cat]

I'd actually be happy to pay more.

We know that a collapsible chest for Sideswipe was absolutely doable, to increase his animation accuracy (and look better in general) but they couldn't do it for the budget they had.

I'd have happily paid more for that.

Rubber tyres are probably another desirable addon to a decent number of fans. Worth paying for? Yeah sure.

Make it a Masterpiece. Sure, Sideswipe is great, but he could have been better with a few simple upgrades. I want my MPs to stand the test of time, to be as accurate as possible to their source. I don't want compromise. Well, not a lot of it.

[Sky Shadow]

Because you're Takara and you're awesome to fans :cool:

For example

The first MP Megs
MP Grimlock
MP Rodimus
That Unicron guy


Every toy on that list other than the original Masterpiece Megatron can and has been sold all around the world.

[griffin]

I think MP Megatron had a second release, and TakaraTomy would be factoring in the extra sales/demand from outside of Japan of MP Megatron to determine it's value overall.

[MayzaPrime]

While I am happy with a MP Wheeljack, I am surprised that it isnt Jazz just because of the amount of repaints that could come from it.

The only other repaint of Wheeljack will be Slicer (unless anyone else can think of one). Which if it does happen I will be buying it, as I am a bit of an MP whore :p

[Sky Shadow]

While I am happy with a MP Wheeljack, I am surprised that it isnt Jazz just because of the amount of repaints that could come from it.

The only other repaint of Wheeljack will be Slicer (unless anyone else can think of one). Which if it does happen I will be buying it, as I am a bit of an MP whore :p

I'd buy Slicer over Wheeljack. I think they'd do a Marlboor Diaclone retool, since it's the equivalent of Tigertrack.

[doublespy]

Megatron would not be a good use of resources. Why make a mould that can't be sold in half the world and has few recolour options to recoup costs?

They make an MP Megatron 2.0 half of the world will be mad cause we can't get our hands on it, but if they don't make it, the whole world'll be mad cause what's the point of an MP line without Megatron?:p

[Defcon]

Wheeljack will do alright, and Bumblebee as well!
I don't really think there a lot of choice for repaints for Wheeljack, but that doesn't matter. So hopefully they can move onto other things. Just going through some of the suggestions we have Slicer and a Diaclone homage. I remember seeing somewhere Cat mentioned using Sunstreaker. Ok so obviously different cars, but seems doable as the robot modes are similar. Following with this sentiment how about Runamuck and Roundabout, but again different car (Lotus Esprit) but robot mode transformation is similar. Im suggesting these could be exclusives, similar to how Tigertrack, Sunstorm and Nemesis Prime were. Runamuck and Roundabout would only work as 2 pack though.

Also touching on the Megatron Debate. I have a theory that they may do a G2 version of Megatron as a tank instead. A first release in G1 Colours first, then a 2nd release sometime later in green camouflage. Its a possible scenario, given that they are doing a G2 Sideswipe. To me it would be awesome, because I love tanks. Also it would cast aside that problem of having Megatron represented as a gun, whilst accurate has its setbacks.

Sorry this was a pretty long post :o

[GoktimusPrime]

Technically TakaraTOMY aren't supposed to factor in demand from outside their market as per a contract they have with Hasbro where each party aren't allowed to "cross contaminate" each other's market. So they wouldn't be taking out-of-market demand into account (at least in theory).

I personally wouldn't want to see another MP Megatron because we already have one. And I personally don't need an MP Megatron to be in scale w/ the newer range. The main reason that I got Hasbro MP10 was because it came with the trailer and Roller (and Spike) and was considerably cheaper than the TakTOM version. Had it just been the cab/robot, even as a whole new mould, I would've skipped it. Same reason why I skipped the significantly retooled MP Starscream and Thundercracker... I don't see the need to "double up" on the same characters as MPs really. The only time I did that was with Starscream, because the Hasbro version's colours were that much better than Takara's (and I found it at RRP at TRU, and it turned out that they used better plastic too).

I might consider a new MP Megatron if it came with the gun extensions; but also depending on what price I could get him for. I doubt I'd pay full RRP for it. :/

[Robzy]

Sorry, but a new MP Megatron is essential to me! The first version is really not very good in robot form. They need to produce a more solid/stable version without chicken legs that actually looks more like his cartoon counterpart. I'm hoping they can learn from the 3rd party versions that have been released in the past couple of years, even if it means sacrificing the gun mode's "realism"... we already have 2 realistic guns for people - time for a cartoon/comic accurate robot version!

MP10 is so much better than the first MP Prime (imo) so I'd like to see Megs get the same treatment!

[Trent]

I too want a new MP Megs. I never bothered to buy MP-05 simply because it's crap. Add the fact that it now looks silly and stands out like the proverbial against other MPs (particularly the Autobot cars), as well as the obvious demand and direction of the MP line, I'd be surprised if we don't see him.

[GoktimusPrime]

Maybe they can redo some characters like Megatron after we've gotten MPs of the rest of the more iconic G1 characters? I'd rather see the MP line focus on giving us new characters who've never had the MP treatment before.

The third party Not-Megatron may have a more bulky robot mode, but it also has a bulky gun mode. But I suppose that if they were to make a new MP Megatron, then it would make sense for them to bulk up the robot mode more even if it may sacrifice the look of the gun mode; though hopefully no where near as badly as on Not-Megatron. Maybe somewhere in between MP Megatron and Not-Megatron (i.e. bulkier than MP Megs but not as bulky as Not-Meg... a sort of 'happy medium'). And to top things off perhaps they could include the barrel extension and stock, and have all the accessories combine into the gun emplacement. And I wouldn't necessarily want it to come with all the same extra accessories that the original MP Megatron came w/... just make the toy backward-compatible with the previous MP Megatron's accessories (e.g. can hold the same weapons, flail can be attached etc.) -- I'd like to see him come with some new accessories, like MP versions of the original G1 toy's rifle and sword.

[Trent]

Maybe they can redo some characters like Megatron after we've gotten MPs of the rest of the more iconic G1 characters? I'd rather see the MP line focus on giving us new characters who've never had the MP treatment before.

The third party Not-Megatron may have a more bulky robot mode, but it also has a bulky gun mode. But I suppose that if they were to make a new MP Megatron, then it would make sense for them to bulk up the robot mode more even if it may sacrifice the look of the gun mode; though hopefully no where near as badly as on Not-Megatron. Maybe somewhere in between MP Megatron and Not-Megatron (i.e. bulkier than MP Megs but not as bulky as Not-Meg... a sort of 'happy medium'). And to top things off perhaps they could include the barrel extension and stock, and have all the accessories combine into the gun emplacement. And I wouldn't necessarily want it to come with all the same extra accessories that the original MP Megatron came w/... just make the toy backward-compatible with the previous MP Megatron's accessories (e.g. can hold the same weapons, flail can be attached etc.) -- I'd like to see him come with some new accessories, like MP versions of the original G1 toy's rifle and sword.
I agree that there are other characters that should be done first, like Ultra Magnus:D. And the way the line is now I believe that Megatron would come with the U.N.C.L.E parts. But I doubt backwards compatibility for the fact that it assumes ownership of MP-05. Are MP-01/04 parts compatible with MP-10? I've never looked.

[doublespy]

Maybe they can redo some characters like Megatron after we've gotten MPs of the rest of the more iconic G1 characters?

Hasui felt the same that's why we haven't seen Megs yet.

I'd really love to see Hasui's interpretation of MP Megatron. He perfectly followed through with the same cartoon-and-toy-accurate "Masterpiece" aesthetic Kobayashi had created and also managed to blend in his design style. Kobayashi was brilliant (what a talent! his first full-on design work with Takara after just graduating collage was Car Robot Speedbreaker, 'nuff said:eek:) but personally I prefer Hasui's style better now and I think he is perfect for the new MP direction. Looking at the differences between MP01 and MP10, I guess he will do whatever he can to give us a comlplete gun mode with all the beef-up parts. And with the new scale this time we may get a P-38 only slightly bigger than the G1 toy/real thing.

[Sinnertwin]

I agree that there are other characters that should be done first, like Ultra Magnus:D. And the way the line is now I believe that Megatron would come with the U.N.C.L.E parts. But I doubt backwards compatibility for the fact that it assumes ownership of MP-05. Are MP-01/04 parts compatible with MP-10? I've never looked.

MP 01's gun's nearly as long as MP 10's leg :D You can however get MP10 to hold MP01's gun with a bit of manouvering, but it can be done, albeit very loosely. Looks great though with a great big honking gun!
MP01's axe accessory on the other hand may prove slightly more difficult though as it operates on a clip system designed for the dimensions of MP01. Its about ~2mm short

[liegeprime]

Hasui felt the same that's why we haven't seen Megs yet.

I'd really love to see Hasui's interpretation of MP Megatron. He perfectly followed through with the same cartoon-and-toy-accurate "Masterpiece" aesthetic Kobayashi had created and also managed to blend in his design style. Kobayashi was brilliant (what a talent! his first full-on design work with Takara after just graduating collage was Car Robot Speedbreaker, 'nuff said:eek:) but personally I prefer Hasui's style better now and I think he is perfect for the new MP direction. Looking at the differences between MP01 and MP10, I guess he will do whatever he can to give us a comlplete gun mode with all the beef-up parts. And with the new scale this time we may get a P-38 only slightly bigger than the G1 toy/real thing.

Im hoping this to come true.... on the other hand it'll be a real B$@$$# getting the toy here as with the new smaller size, it is going to be a more accurate replica gun than MP05 was....:(:(:(

[Demonac]

I hate Megatrons alt mode being a gun.
You'd have a whole bunch of cool vehicles sitting next to a gun bigger than they are.
They need to ditch the gun mode, and give us something else...the g2 tank perhaps.

[liegeprime]

I hate Megatrons alt mode being a gun.
You'd have a whole bunch of cool vehicles sitting next to a gun bigger than they are.
They need to ditch the gun mode, and give us something else...the g2 tank perhaps.

I can live with that!!. It is simply less difficult to obtain the figure if it were of different altmode, but as the MP line is going for G1 accuracy , sigh. Im torn :p:o:(

[Sinnertwin]

I can live with that!!. It is simply less difficult to obtain the figure if it were of different altmode, but as the MP line is going for G1 accuracy , sigh. Im torn :p:o:(

It wouldn't be impossible to own an Megatron if he were to be released again. Granted in NSW for instance there'd be all the legal ownership issues to deal with, but it is achievable. If TT do decide on a G2 version i'd be happy with that also.

[Gouki]

Megatron is better off as a tank. Fact.

[Hursticon]

It wouldn't be impossible to own an Megatron if he were to be released again. Granted in NSW for instance there'd be all the legal ownership issues to deal with, but it is achievable. If TT do decide on a G2 version i'd be happy with that also.

I'd be happy simply with a Grey/Silver iteration of a Tank (His G2 Alt-mode), much like Megatron is depicted in the 'Transformers: Legends' mobile game:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/TransformersTransformersLegendsMobileGameImagesMeg atronRazorclawWarpath1__scaled_800_zps80f55f27.jpg


I realise what works on a canvas doesn't necessarily translate to a 3 dimensional, tangible assembly of plastic - But if Hasui's work with the Transformers: Animated line is anything to go by, I think this look is totally achievable; the Bot mode looks almost exactly like the G1 show model and the Alt mode avoids an immense amount of legal hurdles. ;)
(Not to mention a whole list of other positives over a hand-gun)

Sure Takara aren't 'Supposed to consider foreign marketability due to contractual pollination clauses', but as if Hasbro and Takara aren't seriously considering this option? - Especially Hasbro, as they would definitely want a Masterpiece Megatron to market domestically. :cool:
(Especially factoring in the '30th Anniversary' marketing no-brainer :D)

...and let's face it, there is FAR greater repaint potential for a Tank-based MP Megatron than there ever would be for a Walther P-38 - Unless you guys REALLY want a chrome Orange & Blue oversized pistol in your collections? :p

[GoktimusPrime]

Im hoping this to come true.... on the other hand it'll be a real B$@$$# getting the toy here as with the new smaller size, it is going to be a more accurate replica gun than MP05 was....:(:(:(
A smaller size wouldn't make it any easier/harder to obtain than it already is. The law (and permit) covers all kinds of replica gun Transformers, regardless of size. G1 Megatron, Browning, eHobby Megaplex, MP Megatron etc. are all equally prohibited, and you only need the one permit that covers all those toys.


I hate Megatrons alt mode being a gun.
You'd have a whole bunch of cool vehicles sitting next to a gun bigger than they are.
They need to ditch the gun mode, and give us something else...the g2 tank perhaps.
IMO the original G1 Megatron toy is already pretty much perfect for the gun mode anyway. Any MP Megatron is gonna be oversized in gun mode anyway. I'd definitely take a G2 tank Megatron over another G1 gun Megatron for sure. :) He could come with a small Dr. Biggles-Jones figurine, similar to how MP10 came with Spike. TakaraTOMY don't seem adverse toward making Anglophone continuity references in some of their MP toys; e.g. crown for Grimlock, although admittedly that was a limited edition variant. Hmm...

[doublespy]

I'd be happy simply with a Grey/Silver iteration of a Tank (His G2 Alt-mode), much like Megatron is depicted in the 'Transformers: Legends' mobile game:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/TransformersTransformersLegendsMobileGameImagesMeg atronRazorclawWarpath1__scaled_800_zps80f55f27.jpg


I realise what works on a canvas doesn't necessarily translate to a 3 dimensional, tangible assembly of plastic - But if Hasui's work with the Transformers: Animated line is anything to go by, I think this look is totally achievable; the Bot mode looks almost exactly like the G1 show model and the Alt mode avoids an immense amount of legal hurdles. ;)


I too love that design! Such brilliant use of some of the iconic G1 Megatron body parts to re-assemble as a tank. Especially like the chest panel as front of tank and the curved shin armors becoming sides of the turret. The transformation scheme is half way there and I bet some third party company is making this as we speak.:p

Guess Megatron being a gun is a nostalgia thing. As pointed out in this thread the whole point of Masterpiece 2.0 is toon accuracy. G1 Megatron was indeed a hell of a faithful gun mode but the robot didn't look like Megs in the cartoon at all. I'd like to see a definite toon-accurate G1 Megs toy (MP10 is that definitive G1 Prime, hands down. MP01? not even close imo) and I think this is the draw of MP to many fans. And I'm really interested to see how Hasui pull it off when the time comes.

[ITZTRU]

but as the MP line is going for G1 accuracy



the whole point of Masterpiece 2.0 is toon accuracy.

Omg, thank you. How are people still not getting that the Masterpiece line is all about G1? Yes, there are other figures released under the masterpiece line which represent other universes. But they are all repaints from the original mold used to represent the G1 character in the first place (eg: MP G2 Lambor.)

TT didn't release the figure with the intention of marketing it first as a G2 representation of itself. Having said all that, as nice as it might be, I highly doubt they will release a "G2" version of Megs and market it as a replacement for an original G1 representation of him. And if they do, then you can tell me to stick it :)

by the way, I'm aware they also released a couple of movie figures under the masterpiece line, but they were sub-headed with an "M" before the designated number - separating them from the main masterpiece line - and they were released by Hasbro first AFAIK, not TT.

(I probably should have put this in the vent thread lol)

[Nevac]

Don't see why so many people are knocking MP5 Megs for it's time it's a very ambitious MP and goes great with MP1/4. The waist up is perfect sure the legs could be thicker but that's hard to pull off being the gun handle. The one thing I don't like about MP5 is the material his feet are made of. I've seen 5xMP5's and all of them have a discoloration on the feet one so bad it's going green.

Personally I'd love a new MP Megs in the same scale as MP20 Prime and it should be a gun with UNCLE attachments. G2 Tank would look so out of place with my current MP's. Besides we almost have all the S1 Decepticons baring Megs, Shockwave and Reflector. Would also like updated Skywarp/Thundercracker (I don't like the Hasbro TC). But I guess they want to do all the S1 cars before they do more Decepticons.

[Trent]

Don't see why so many people are knocking MP5 Megs for it's time it's a very ambitious MP and goes great with MP1/4. The waist up is perfect sure the legs could be thicker but that's hard to pull off being the gun handle. The one thing I don't like about MP5 is the material his feet are made of. I've seen 5xMP5's and all of them have a discoloration on the feet one so bad it's going green.

That's the point. His size is all wrong compared to all but 1 other MP (granted MP-01 was repainted a bazillion times but that's beside the point). He has chicken legs and rusts.

So why would I pay an exorberant amount of money for this MP when it's almost a given that another, updated version will come out down the track?

[Sinnertwin]

Or Galvatron. Considering the current MP lines roster isnt sticking to the mantra of Season 1 characters first - Red Alert & Smokescreen are both '85 cast members - why can't TT give MP09 Rodimus Prime a counterpart? We've seen how MP10 Optimus and MP09 Rodimus, not Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime scale together, i doubt a Galvatron will create an issue in that respect.

[Nevac]

Well if you were collecting Transformers then he was a must get. If you're just starting now he's a tough sell I guess but he is Megatron and still the most cartoon accurate Megatron available at the moment. Might be a long time before we get a version 2 with all the Autobot bias at the moment.

[Sinnertwin]

Well if you were collecting Transformers then he was a must get. If you're just starting now he's a tough sell I guess but he is Megatron and still the most cartoon accurate Megatron available at the moment. Might be a long time before we get a version 2 with all the Autobot bias at the moment.

He's still one of my favourites. I remember back in 2007 thinking what a great figure he was, not i'll wait until 2012 for the new Optimus to come out and how well it may scale with that. And yes, we definitely need more Decepticons. It wasn't "Autobots wage their battle their to destroy the evil forces of the F15 repaints and a walkman, naaa na na na naaaa The Transformers"

[GoktimusPrime]

Omg, thank you. How are people still not getting that the Masterpiece line is all about G1? Yes, there are other figures released under the masterpiece line which represent other universes. But they are all repaints from the original mold used to represent the G1 character in the first place (eg: MP G2 Lambor.)

TT didn't release the figure with the intention of marketing it first as a G2 representation of itself. Having said all that, as nice as it might be, I highly doubt they will release a "G2" version of Megs and market it as a replacement for an original G1 representation of him. And if they do, then you can tell me to stick it :)
But TakaraTOMY's Masterpiece Online survey (http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=350403&postcount=12) explicitly lists "G2 Optimus Prime" as a character that you can vote for to be made into a future Masterpiece toy. I'm presuming they mean Laser Optimus Prime as opposed to just MP10 with purple-blue parts and a black trailer. :/

[Sky Shadow]

But TakaraTOMY's Masterpiece Online survey (http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=350403&postcount=12) explicitly lists "G2 Optimus Prime" as a character that you can vote for to be made into a future Masterpiece toy. I'm presuming they mean Laser Optimus Prime as opposed to just MP10 with purple-blue parts and a black trailer. :/

And the other Masterpiece survey includes Optimus Primal, Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Super Fire Convoy, plus the Armada, Energon and Cybertron Primes. (Mix of Japanese and Occidental names for clarity). So the reason why "people still not getting that the Masterpiece line is all about G1" is because it's not.

[ITZTRU]

If those "fan voted" figures are released with the title of MP-22 or MP-23 only and not something like MP-M01 Starscream (Movie line) or MP-12T Tigertrack (repaint of original G1 character Lambor), which separate them into sub classifications from the original Masterpiece line then I will stand corrected.

The only one who stands out is MP-02 Magnus. And yeah - I admit...I can't give explanations for that figure. But it's a blatant obvious repaint. And every other repaint after that has had another letter added to the characters MP title to separate them from the mainline which then set the new trend for sub line masterpiece figures.

[doublespy]

TT's way of sucking up to fans for the 30th anniversay.:p
More variety in the MP line is obviously a good thing. But for some the fan vote characters scale may be a problem. Scale was the main reason they revamped the line to begin with and say if fans picked God Ginrai, Ginrai as the Godmaster that transforms into the engine block of the truck would be too big as a human with tech armor on. If MP10 and the potential MP God Ginrai are to be roughly the same size in truck mode, Ginrai would have to tower over Spike...(let alone God Ginrai could be a freaking expensive toy) Just my random geeky thoughts though:D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

If MP10 and the potential MP God Ginrai are to be roughly the same size in truck mode, Ginrai would have to tower over Spike...(let alone God Ginrai could be a freaking expensive toy) Just my random geeky thoughts though:D
If scale is actually an issue and let's face it, scale and TFs rarely go hand in hand. They could cheat a little bit, make Ginrai in his armour only part of the engine block if need be and there ya go.

However, I suspect that Spike with MP 10 isn't in scale anyway so it may well just be a moot point.

God Ginrai would be a massive toy though. I'd still want one. But I bet the could probably give him an accurate look and keep the toy within reason with the other MPs.

[GoktimusPrime]

The only one who stands out is MP-02 Magnus. And yeah - I admit...I can't give explanations for that figure. But it's a blatant obvious repaint. And every other repaint after that has had another letter added to the characters MP title to separate them from the mainline which then set the new trend for sub line masterpiece figures.
The original Ultra Magnus was a repaint of Optimus Prime (well, the original Powered Convoy was a repaint of Battle Convoy), just with a different trailer that could also attach to become body armour. MP01 and MP02 were MP versions of only the cab robots, neither had the trailers. It's just that Ultra Magnus' trailer is more iconic as part of Ultra Magnus' look. But the original Ultra Magnus always was a white Optimus Prime.

...having said that, I skipped MP02, even when it was available here for $80 at Target. :p

[ITZTRU]

The original Ultra Magnus was a repaint of Optimus Prime (well, the original Powered Convoy was a repaint of Battle Convoy), just with a different trailer that could also attach to become body armour. MP01 and MP02 were MP versions of only the cab robots, neither had the trailers. It's just that Ultra Magnus' trailer is more iconic as part of Ultra Magnus' look. But the original Ultra Magnus always was a white Optimus Prime.

...having said that, I skipped MP02, even when it was available here for $80 at Target. :p

Haha, sorry Gok - what I meant by not being able to explain the figure was why the MP-02 repaint was not given an extra letter on the end of it's MP title (eg: MP01-UM) just like the other repaints later in the MP line (eg: MP12-T, MP03-G), given that MP02 was a repaint of the Prime mold and NOT a depicted character in the G1 animated series as a "white" version of "OP" without his armor :)

[High_Q]

Here's our first glimpse (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/new-figure-king-scan-reveals-silhouette-of-masterpiece-wheeljack-178957/) of MP-20 Wheeljack. It's just a silhouette but looks promising.

[Trent]

Here's our first glimpse (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/new-figure-king-scan-reveals-silhouette-of-masterpiece-wheeljack-178957/) of MP-20 Wheeljack. It's just a silhouette but looks promising.

Awesome :)

[Autocon]

Might have to buy a wheeljack

[reillyd]

Here's our first glimpse (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/new-figure-king-scan-reveals-silhouette-of-masterpiece-wheeljack-178957/) of MP-20 Wheeljack. It's just a silhouette but looks promising.

Who's theConvoy in the top of th image under Phase 1?

[Kranix]

I wonder if we may see an encore G1 Wheeljack to match the Masterpiece version... :D

[VERT]

Think old Wheeljacks mould has been lost or destroyed. Like Sunstreaker and Mirage

[Sinnertwin]

Who's theConvoy in the top of th image under Phase 1?

Go! G26 Optimus Prime, the triple changer.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Who's theConvoy in the top of th image under Phase 1?


Go! G26 Optimus Prime, the triple changer.

AKA, Optimus X Prime Apparently.

[Gofigure]

I absolutely love the MP line ATM. All these characters are top choices for me. I'm pretty keen to see who we get after these.....think of the possibilities :)

[MayzaPrime]

I absolutely love the MP line ATM. All these characters are top choices for me. I'm pretty keen to see who we get after these.....think of the possibilities :)

Star Sabre... Oh wait :p

[Sinnertwin]

There is also the option of Sunstreaker- not a repaint, but the use of mechanics.
Wheeljack & Sunstreaker's G1 toy transformations are quite similar.

[MayzaPrime]

There is also the option of Sunstreaker- not a repaint, but the use of mechanics.
Wheeljack & Sunstreaker's G1 toy transformations are quite similar.

If this happened I would be very disappointed, I would want a completely new mold for Sunstreaker, not even a heavily re-tooled Wheeljack mold will do

Besides Sunstreaker's mold can be repainted a number of times, Red, Black, White so Takara can make some money of these repaints.

I'm still hoping for Clapdown from the Lambor mold :D

[Sinnertwin]

If this happened I would be very disappointed, I would want a completely new mold for Sunstreaker, not even a heavily re-tooled Wheeljack mold will do

It's not what they transform into, but how they transform, was what i was alluding to.

[MayzaPrime]

It's not what they transform into, but how they transform, was what i was alluding to.

Fair enough :D

[Gofigure]

Imagine what they could with Ironhide/Ratchet....

[Megatran]

It amazes me the amount of discussion & hype a single ordinary silhouette can generate on other sites. What I see & can make out from the silhouette are 2 legs, 2 arms, a body, a shoulder missile launcher and his characteristic shoulder protrusions. I'll wait for actual photos that shows greater detailing & colour scheme before I start going super nova like every one else. :p

[Robzy]

Looks great! Wheeljack is a definite fave of mine. Been hanging to see pics since he was announced!

The wait is driving me nuts!!! :o

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

Im buying MP Tigertrack because he looks exactly like Sunstreaker. I don't want to hear that theyre making another Lambo in yellow and calling HIM Sunstreaker... wont be happy!

[MayzaPrime]

Im buying MP Tigertrack because he looks exactly like Sunstreaker. I don't want to hear that theyre making another Lambo in yellow and calling HIM Sunstreaker... wont be happy!

There is a very good chance that we will get a new mold for Sunstreaker...

But don't be unhappy Tigertrack is an awesome figure on its own :D

[Kranix]

Think old Wheeljacks mould has been lost or destroyed. Like Sunstreaker and Mirage

Damn, that is disappointing. I have managed to collect all the G1 transformers (1984 and 85) I was missing new as reissues except for Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, Mirage, 3 minibots and the dinobots. Sad that ill never be able to collect them all :(

[BigTransformerTrev]

Here's our first glimpse (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/new-figure-king-scan-reveals-silhouette-of-masterpiece-wheeljack-178957/) of MP-20 Wheeljack. It's just a silhouette but looks promising.

That could almost be a shadow of the new Tankor Generations toy

[lancalot]

Im buying MP Tigertrack because he looks exactly like Sunstreaker. I don't want to hear that theyre making another Lambo in yellow and calling HIM Sunstreaker... wont be happy!

But sunstreaker has a totally different transformation and robot mode... The car bonnet are his legs... not the chest like tigertrack

[Sinnertwin]

Im buying MP Tigertrack because he looks exactly like Sunstreaker. I don't want to hear that theyre making another Lambo in yellow and calling HIM Sunstreaker... wont be happy!

The alt mode? Not exactly the same. Sunstreaker has his custom engine exposed with a different rear spoiler, even though Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are both LP500S Lamborghinis.


But sunstreaker has a totally different transformation and robot mode... The car bonnet are his legs... not the chest like tigertrack

Then there is this, which will result in Sunstreaker looking very different to his G1 incarnation

[Trent]

Im buying MP Tigertrack because he looks exactly like Sunstreaker. I don't want to hear that theyre making another Lambo in yellow and calling HIM Sunstreaker... wont be happy!

Sorry dude he looks nothing like Sunstreaker. The alt modes are both Lambos yes but Sunstreaker has an exposed engine. Robots modes are completely different with he bonnet making up Sunstreaker's feet (chest on Tigertrack), roof/windows making up his chest (back on TT) and the heads are completely different.

The only thing they have in common are they are both Yellow.

Sunstreaker:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/53A39FDE-A41A-4EE1-B27F-53E61488343B.jpg



Tigertrack:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/977D2299-A777-4C4A-9A1B-23C0E3B761BB.jpg

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

All i saw was a yellow lamborghini.. didnt really think about the intricacies.

But thanks for the knowledge guys!

[1AZRAEL1]

I'll be more excited when I see actual pictures. But he will be mine, oh yes, he will be mine :p

[drifand]

I am going to say Hound, mirage or Tracks. Jazz would be the hardest to get licensing it seems.

[MayzaPrime]

I am going to say Hound, mirage or Tracks. Jazz would be the hardest to get licensing it seems.

I'm pretty sure that they have the Porsche licence because they have the Volkswagen licence.

But I could be wrong :p

[Sinnertwin]

Jazz would be the hardest to get licensing it seems.

Not necessarily. Porsche is part of the Volkswagen family & if Bumblebee has been given the green light, i suspect getting the licence for Jazz won't be as difficult as we imagine.

[Trent]

I'm pretty sure that they have the Porsche licence because they have the Volkswagen licence.

But I could be wrong :p


Not necessarily. Porsche is part of the Volkswagen family & if Bumblebee has been given the green light, i suspect getting the licence for Jazz won't be as difficult as we imagine.

If they have the VW licence them the chances of them getting a Porche licence are greatly improved. However the decision of whether to lease the licence is entirely up to Porche and will be made independently of what VW does.

Time will tell…

[High_Q]

Finally, as reported by TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-20-masterpiece-wheeljack-prototype-revealed-179038/), MP-20 Wheeljack prototype has been revealed!

[VERT]

And im loving it :D

[griffin]

They are claiming that it won't be released until August. That's a long wait, as G2 Sideswipe is in February and Soundblaster is in March... maybe the 5 month block is to allow for Movie toys to take up their marketing focus.
Or maybe TakaraTomy thinks that the fans will prefer movie toys and won't have any money for MP toys. :p

[Bidoofdude]

Finally, as reported by TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-20-masterpiece-wheeljack-prototype-revealed-179038/), MP-20 Wheeljack prototype has been revealed!

Tis glorious. I might just get this.:eek:

[Hursticon]

Finally, as reported by TFW2005 (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-20-masterpiece-wheeljack-prototype-revealed-179038/), MP-20 Wheeljack prototype has been revealed!

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/BdmEhjuCAAAYH3Sjpglarge_zps22b3b43e.jpg
;)


They are claiming that it won't be released until August. That's a long wait, as G2 Sideswipe is in February and Soundblaster is in March... maybe the 5 month block is to allow for Movie toys to take up their marketing focus.
Or maybe TakaraTomy thinks that the fans will prefer movie toys and won't have any money for MP toys. :p

I'd say the former suggestion is most likely dude. ;):p

[Lint]

Tis glorious. I might just get this.:eek:

+1

[Deonasis]

Bravo! What a lovely groove they are in.


I do wait to see Wheeljacks hips because i thought they looked strange in the brightened silohette. And of course discover the reason for the roof split..

[ILikeSoundwave]

Prefect!:), won't pass this MP up, Noooo way!:cool:

[VERT]

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/BdmEhjuCAAAYH3Sjpglarge_zps22b3b43e.jpg
;)



I'd say the former suggestion is most likely dude. ;):p

I dont know how many of us will really be bothering with most of the movie toys.

[Ultra Mackness]

This looks magnificent! I've been waiting for this confirmation before pre ordering but now it's time!

[sideswipes brother]

I usually dont bother with the MP's autobot cars due to lack of rubber and diecast... but that figure is surely tempting.

[nexusnixx]

Hurray it looks like cartoon accurate!!!

Sold on this.

[drifand]

Wow, now I am tempted to buy two. lol

As for Jazz, I think that will hold back for a while, I would have think Hound would be in their to do list.

Now waiting on bumblebee pics.

Have to say, I like the delay as it give me time to save up cash.

[MayzaPrime]

I was having a bad day, now coming home and seeing MP Wheeljack has made my day :D

I'm glad I have had Wheeljack on pre-order for a few months now. I see him selling very well.

[Lord_Zed]

Looks pretty good, as we have come to expect from this batch of Autobot cars.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Now the question is: Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them from? Sick of paying BBTS prices when it seems they are cheaper most everywhere else.

[kaiden]

Those shoulders look like a horrible floppy mess!!!! - they won't be able to withstand 100x daily karate chops. And that RRP! Are they serious? Binaltechs were better value. Easy pass for me. /sarcasm

[Iriorne]

Those shoulders look like a horrible floppy mess!!!! - they won't be able to withstand 100x daily karate chops. And that RRP! Are they serious? Binaltechs were better value. Easy pass for me. /sarcasm

I had to double check your username. :D:p

[VERT]

I had to double check your username. :D:p

HAHAHAHAHA:D

[lancalot]

he does look good... hopefully with him painted , the gaps in the joint is not that noticeable in car mode.... and that slip in the roof also...

[Iriorne]

HAHAHAHAHA:D

Let's not forget the lack of rubber tyres, the lack of diecast, the small size (out of scale with MP-01) and the lack of moulded car interior and component detail.

It's hard to tell from the photo but I'm going to go out on a limb and add lack of ankle tilts to the list but at least he can spread his arms out into a T shape. I think that about covers the standard list of complaints? ;)

[llamatron]

Those shoulders look like a horrible floppy mess!!!! - they won't be able to withstand 100x daily karate chops. And that RRP! Are they serious? Binaltechs were better value. Easy pass for me. /sarcasm

luuulz

Looks great, but at this point it's pretty much a given that MPs are gonna be DYNAMITE

[Megatran]

Need side-on pics in bot mode. The MP Datsuns, as good as they were, suffered from over bulging backpack syndrome. Hopefully designers have over come this design weakness for this new mold.

[Trent]

Need side-on pics in bot mode. The MP Datsuns, as good as they were, suffered from over bulging backpack syndrome. Hopefully designers have over come this design weakness for this new mold.

Meh. It looks great and there is nothing to suggest that there is a massive backpack. But then I don't really have a problem with the Datsuns. Or the Lambos for that matter.

And stop picking on Gok. Allow him his repetitiveness. :p

[Hursticon]

The MP Datsuns, as good as they were, suffered from over bulging backpack syndrome...

Uhh... What? :confused:

[kurdt_the_goat]

Looks good but damn, August?
Wallet is happy but that is some wait, and presumably quite the while until Bumblebee too.

[Robzy]

Perfect! Absolutely perfect! :eek:

Still can't believe people on the US sites were bagging it before it had even been revealed :rolleyes: Must be eating their words now!!

[yoshi594]

Looks fantastic! hopefully they don't disappoint with the paint job!

[griffin]

(just be careful with the poking of fun guys... it might be harmless with no bad intentions, but enough of it all at once can look like a mobbing)

[kaiden]

(just be careful with the poking of fun guys... it might be harmless with no bad intentions, but enough of it all at once can look like a mobbing)

haha yeah sorry. I hope Gok understands I'm just poking fun at his 'shoulder' issue and is not a personal attack or anything.


Need side-on pics in bot mode. The MP Datsuns, as good as they were, suffered from over bulging backpack syndrome. Hopefully designers have over come this design weakness for this new mold.

I can see what you mean about the backpacks but honestly I don't think its a problem so I would hardly call it a weakness as the front windscreen and roof of the car have to go somewhere. Unfortunately the datsuns and lamborghinis aren't blocky like Optimus Prime and Soundwave which creates the design limitation.

[Tober]

Looks great but yeah, August is a long way off. :) :(
I expect to see a few MP seeker repaints to fill the time.

Did Wheeljack ever get a eHobby repaint or any other, besides the Diaclone red and white?

[Blink90210]

Nice to see the prototype pics, can't wait to see the coloured version. I'm going to try and avoid staring at it for too long and trying to work out how it works.

[Sinnertwin]

Now the question is: Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them from? Sick of paying BBTS prices when it seems they are cheaper most everywhere else.

I'll probably be sticking with HLJ.com & the Private Warehouse again, although i dont think their preorders are up yet. I have one order from BBTS when it was first announced but i'll be cancelling that

You've also got your RK
http://www.robotkingdom.com/just-listed-items/week-44-21st-october-2013/tftrmp20.html

Chimungmung
http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php?products_id=1317

Also keep an eye on the other stores like AmiAmi, eHobbyBaseShop etc
:)

[yoshi594]

saw your post sinnertwin. He's up for order from anime-export!

Masterpiece Wheeljack! (http://www.anime-export.com/product/17656)

.

[Sinnertwin]

$44USD for an MP Wheeljack? Nice work, Yoshi ;)

Now to see how they handle the paintwork. Alitalia bells & whistles or cartoon simplicity?

[Tober]

Anime Export have good prices and ship fast, however after my last ordeal with them I won't be using them again. They require payment upfront and that shipping date is more than six months away, so I'll wait for HLJ, Amiami or HobbySearch to open their orders.

[lancalot]

I mostly get the masterpiece from the HK dealer as you get the extra and the coins as well ....with the Japan based one you don't get anything

[griffin]

MP 19 (Smokescreen) came out in December

So we have for 2014...
MP 12G (Gen2 Sideswipe) in February
MP 13B (Soundblaster w/ Ratbat) in March
.
then a five month gap
.
MP 20 (Wheeljack) in August
MP 21 (Bumblebee)
MP 22 (allegedly Ultra Magnus)

Since the previous Cassette 2-packs had their own numbers, and we have 19, 20, 21 & 22 noted for this year as Autobots, it doesn't leave much hope for any more cassette 2-packs... or any hope of a Hasbro release of Soundblaster with 5 cassettes (if there was any interest by Hasbro to do one).
With Soundwave being so successful, I'd imagine Soundblaster would be high on the Hasbro agenda, as they managed to successfully sell a "green Starscream" that wasn't even a Gen1 character, so shouldn't have much trouble selling a black Soundwave (who was at least a Gen1 character, just not in America).

[llamatron]

Did they say if star saber was supposed to be a 2014 release?

Edit: current rumours for MP schedule after Magnus is galvatron, tracks, bruticus.

[Kranix]

MP 19 (Smokescreen) came out in December

So we have for 2014...
MP 12G (Gen2 Sideswipe) in February
MP 13B (Soundblaster w/ Ratbat) in March
.
then a five month gap
.
MP 20 (Wheeljack) in August
MP 21 (Bumblebee)
MP 22 (allegedly Ultra Magnus)

Since the previous Cassette 2-packs had their own numbers, and we have 19, 20, 21 & 22 noted for this year as Autobots, it doesn't leave much hope for any more cassette 2-packs... or any hope of a Hasbro release of Soundblaster with 5 cassettes (if there was any interest by Hasbro to do one).
With Soundwave being so successful, I'd imagine Soundblaster would be high on the Hasbro agenda, as they managed to successfully sell a "green Starscream" that wasn't even a Gen1 character, so shouldn't have much trouble selling a black Soundwave (who was at least a Gen1 character, just not in America).

There is a second run of Sideswipe coming up too, does that count?

I do wonder if there is any chance of Hasbro picking up a few existing MPs for a run during this period, the second run and revised Sideswipe maybe? Possibly MP11 Starscream? Although they did just do Acidstorm so unlikely i guess (I would buy one though! :D ).

[griffin]

Did they say if star saber was supposed to be a 2014 release?


Sigh... and I was only just talking about Star Saber with Justowen today and I completely forgot to include it in the list. :o

But yes, that's another one that you'd think "should" be out in 2014, as it appeared to be an Anniversary fan-vote thingy for Japan. (like we had Windblade as ours)

BBTS used to have Wheeljack and Bbee listed as "2nd quarter 2014", which means they are now delayed by at least 2 months... making for a very cramped end of the year if we are to get 4 new moulds from August.

We may have had a record 8 JP MPs released in 2013 (9 if Acid Storm actually got released - it was noted as a pre-order, but I cant find any evidence it actually got released), but after March there was only the one new mould (Prowl/Streak/Smokescreen) for the rest of last year.
2014 is shaping up to be the opposite, with all the new moulds being at the end of the year (except Ratbat, which is more of a new accessory to a redeco anyway).

[Mythirax]

Arms look a bit to plain in the prototype. I mean he looks good, but shouldn't he have wheels on his upper arm? Rather than that flatness.

[drifand]

Anime Export have good prices and ship fast, however after my last ordeal with them I won't be using them again. They require payment upfront and that shipping date is more than six months away, so I'll wait for HLJ, Amiami or HobbySearch to open their orders.

But that price of 6000 yen I be questioning whether is it rrp price or paying premium? that's definitely bumped up from what Smokescreen was. Not saying I won't pay 6,000 yen.

HLJ is my last line of defence for me, Hobbysearch does well enough most of the times.

[llamatron]

I can't remember exact numbers but rrp for smokescreen was higher than sideswipe and prowl.

[drifand]

I can't remember exact numbers but rrp for smokescreen was higher than sideswipe and prowl.

It is, and I am aware of that and seeing Anime Ex 6,000 yen price for pre-order, I am uncertain again whether this is self mark up or the new RRP due to the shoulder launcher, due to limited to one character use for the mould, god knows.

Will need to see what hobbysearch and others will list it at, as those will be the prices I will trust.

[nexusnixx]

Was told rrp for smokescreen was the cheapest of the Nissan brothers.

Glad this mp wheeljack is cartoon accurate to what I see. Will be a popular item for sure.

[1AZRAEL1]

It is, and I am aware of that and seeing Anime Ex 6,000 yen price for pre-order, I am uncertain again whether this is self mark up or the new RRP due to the shoulder launcher, due to limited to one character use for the mould, god knows.

Will need to see what hobbysearch and others will list it at, as those will be the prices I will trust.

They have at least 2 more uses they could do. Actionmaster Slicer and Diaclone Malbor. And I would buy all 3 :p

[Trent]

I wonder if they'll try and cram a Blue Bluestreak release in as well as a diaclone tribute similar to Tigertrack since he seemed to sell pretty well?

[Hursticon]

I wonder if they'll try and cram a Blue Bluestreak release in as well as a diaclone tribute similar to Tigertrack since he seemed to sell pretty well?

It'll make Heroic Decepticon (http://heroicdecepticon.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/full-story-part-2-diaclone-carrobots.html) pretty happy if they did, that's for sure. :D

[drifand]

Was told rrp for smokescreen was the cheapest of the Nissan brothers.

Glad this mp wheeljack is cartoon accurate to what I see. Will be a popular item for sure.

I don't think that is correct, Smokescreen follows suit with sideswipe G2 at a higher price. Noted there were places selling way below RRP but the RRP was set higher than Prowl and Streak.

on hobbysearch

Streak is going at 5800 yen RRP and Smokescreen is at 6500 yen as with Sideswipe G2.

So I guess 6000 yen is still below RRP.

[1AZRAEL1]

I wonder if they'll try and cram a Blue Bluestreak release in as well as a diaclone tribute similar to Tigertrack since he seemed to sell pretty well?


It'll make Heroic Decepticon (http://heroicdecepticon.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/full-story-part-2-diaclone-carrobots.html) pretty happy if they did, that's for sure. :D

And I'd buy it too :D lol

I just can't get enough masterpieces. Only 3 I don't have are Greenscream, Black Rodimus and Black MP01 Prime. Latter 2 I wouldn't mind trying to get. And maybe Rodimus with the trailer too... maybe :p

[GoktimusPrime]

Anime Export have good prices and ship fast, however after my last ordeal with them I won't be using them again. They require payment upfront and that shipping date is more than six months away, so I'll wait for HLJ, Amiami or HobbySearch to open their orders.
I've never dealt w/ AE before, but the idea of upfront payment isn't convenient for me. I like dealing w/ Amazon because they don't charge until after the toy has shipped. And Amazon JP's preorder price is only a few dollars dearer than AE's anyway... I'll probably stick w/ Amazon JP (hopefully they'll offer some bonus goodie).

...now... I wonder if they'd make a limited exclusive MP Slicer?! :D

[Sinnertwin]

Slicer, i'm not too fussed about, but a Marlboro version? :drool:

[Hursticon]

And I'd buy it too :D lol

I'd be curious to know what you wouldn't buy! :p

[drifand]

Seems like Anime E now listed it at 4550 yen pre-order, you can't really go wrong but I am unsure how their shipping is like.

[GoktimusPrime]

They have at least 2 more uses they could do. Actionmaster Slicer and Diaclone Malbor. And I would buy all 3 :p
Haha, nice. :D It'd depend on my opinion of the Wheeljack mould as to whether or not I'd get repaints. But that is a cool idea. :)


Was told rrp for smokescreen was the cheapest of the Nissan brothers.
Just to clarify for you...
MP Prowl RRP = 6090JPY
MP Bluestreak RRP = 6090JPY
MP Smokescreen RRP = 6825JPY
(Source (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece/))
So Smokescreen is actually the most expensive of the MP Nissans at RRP.

[llamatron]

Yea RRP for Smokescreen was definitely higher than Prowl and Bluestreak. However, lots of place still seem to have stock of Smokescreen while Prowl/Bluestreak were instant sellouts. One might speculate that places overordered Smokescreens after witnessing the demand for Prowl/Streak and also buyers might have gotten burnt out after having the same mold released so many times in a row.

[1AZRAEL1]

Yea RRP for Smokescreen was definitely higher than Prowl and Bluestreak. However, lots of place still seem to have stock of Smokescreen while Prowl/Bluestreak were instant sellouts. One might speculate that places overordered Smokescreens after witnessing the demand for Prowl/Streak and also buyers might have gotten burnt out after having the same mold released so many times in a row.

May be the same mold, but seeing it in person there are many differences from the other 2. At least they weren't just straight out repaints like the classics mold lol.

[drifand]

Yea RRP for Smokescreen was definitely higher than Prowl and Bluestreak. However, lots of place still seem to have stock of Smokescreen while Prowl/Bluestreak were instant sellouts. One might speculate that places overordered Smokescreens after witnessing the demand for Prowl/Streak and also buyers might have gotten burnt out after having the same mold released so many times in a row.

While amiami and hlj have ran out of stock some places have them cheap others not so. But I have to say overall all the Nissan paint work has been better than Lambor's

[Sky Shadow]

May be the same mold, but seeing it in person there are many differences from the other 2. At least they weren't just straight out repaints like the classics mold lol.

Obviously Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen have a history of remoulding (light bar/nothing/fender/spoiler), but this is the first time they've gone to such efforts for the robot modes (heads, waists, shoulders, arms, etc.) I love that they've attempted (and basically succeeded) in turning Shōhei Kohara's Prowl and Bluestreak into Floro Dery's Smokescreen model. I excitedly bought Smokescreen because of this - if it had been the same robot mode I wouldn't have touched it.

[kup]

Or maybe TakaraTomy thinks that the fans will prefer movie toys and won't have any money for MP toys. :p

Don't joke on that as I believe it is real, same for Hasbro. It is probable that they do indeed think that movie toys are more popular purely on what is likely to be store demand. They have done this in the past where they sacrifice a steady selling line for movie toys that largely end up shelf warming.

[griffin]

Amazon.jp had Smokescreen retailing for more than Prowl and Streak as well. If it is cheaper somewhere, it would have been a secondary source basing their prices on collector demand.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Apparently one of Wheeljacks accessories is going to be the 'anti-hynosis' device he used in 'The Ultimate Doom' 3-parter from G1. That's kinda cool, and makes as much sense as Starscream coming with Kremzeek or Grimlock with his brain-helmet :)

[1AZRAEL1]

Starscream came with Dr Archeville, Megs came with Kremzeek :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Starscream came with Dr Archeville, Megs came with Kremzeek :)

Oh yeah, silly Trev :o. I cant remember which came with which of my MP's :rolleyes: Makes more sense too

[Sinnertwin]

A lunchbox? That's the best accessory they could come up with?

[drifand]

So while Wheeljack is looking good, there is no news on Bee?

[griffin]

That extra accessory will be an exclusive from Amazon Japan (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-wheeljack-amazon-exclusive-anti-hypnosis-device-accessory-179058/)... so should be released with the Hasbro HK versions.

Also, some more prototype images are out (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/new-images-of-mp-20-masterpiece-wheeljack-prototype-179060/), including the car mode now.

[lancalot]

looking at the pic im surprised how well the robot mode size/look having it all cramped into the car mode ...

[griffin]

The join/gap on the chest is going to bother me if the paint apps don't hide it a little.

[Megatran]

No sign of the wheels in bot mode. Anyone know where the wheels go?

[liegeprime]

No sign of the wheels in bot mode. Anyone know where the wheels go?

I can only guess that the front wheels tuck and fold in the lower legs ( giving it a filling of sorts so it's not hollow) and the rear ones tuck at the back into the back torso. So far no shots of the back so Im hoping it's not a disappointing chasm of nothingness and kibble mess at the back view...

[Hursticon]

Here you go guys & gals ;):):

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-WJ-05_zps197b9e38.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-WJ-03_zps74d5aff8.jpg~original http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-WJ-04_zpse7555be0.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-WJ-01_zps70161c64.jpg~original http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/MP-WJ-02_zps8934a3f6.jpg~original

[CBratron]

This feet first mold needs to be reconfigured for a yellow lambo.

Yes?

[Hursticon]

This feet first mold needs to be reconfigured for a yellow lambo.

Yes?

...eh? :confused:

[Deonasis]

The join/gap on the chest is going to bother me if the paint apps don't hide it a little.The screw hole under the windscreen bothers me more, I hope that blends in.

[lancalot]

This feet first mold needs to be reconfigured for a yellow lambo.

Yes?


...eh? :confused:

sunstreaker ?? :)

[Sinnertwin]

This feet first mold needs to be reconfigured for a yellow lambo.

Yes?

Definitely

[Trent]

No sign of the wheels in bot mode. Anyone know where the wheels go?

Maybe they do something really clever like fold into the torso like FansProject Code. That would be cool.

[Megatran]

I just realised that I pre-ordered MP-20 & & MP-21 together, believing that both would be available in 2nd quarter this year. It looks like I won't be getting my hands on Wheeljack until the end of the year, going by how slow the press leaks are for the unconfirmed Bumblebee. :(

[drifand]

is appearing in hobbysearch as sold out for wheeljack. probably not even listed for pre-order yet.

[Hursticon]

sunstreaker ?? :)

OH! :eek:

Okay, now I understand what CBratron was asking. :p

[BigTransformerTrev]

Here you go guys & gals ;):):



Oh man :eek: - if I wasn't sold before I am now! Freaking awesome :D:D:D

[DELTAprime]

I'm wondering if last year was an anomaly with how often the MP's were coming out.

Soundwave was a 2012 figure delayed to Jan 13 and his Cassettes were probably designed as part of the Soundwave project. Then we got 3 versions of the one mold in the Nissans.

With only Soundblaster and Wheeljack confirmed looks like 2 -3, maybe 4 is going to be what we get this year.

[Robzy]

Looks wild!!

:cool:

[Hursticon]

Hobby Link Japan has just posted their Preorder page for Masterpiece Wheeljack (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80319) guys, ¥5,200, have at it! :cool:

[DELTAprime]

Hobby Link Japan has just posted their Preorder page for Masterpiece Wheeljack (http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80319) guys, ¥5,200, have at it! :cool:

Lets hope the exchange rate stays about the same. $55AU is a great deal.

[GoktimusPrime]

Wow, that's a great preorder price! :D

[swoop]

Anime export has it up for 4550yen

[doublespy]

Look at the proportion of feet compared to the rest of the robot, versus the same parts compared to the rest of the car in car mode(almost 1/4 of the car length I'd say). Great engineering to compact the rest of the robot parts in car mode!

[ILikeSoundwave]

Looks great!, I'll hopefully pre order this soon!

[Tober]

Hobby Search has high-res pics up from their pre-order page (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10258218).

[Ultra Mackness]

Happy I've preordered now but not happy about the Oz dollar conversion rate - with postage mine cost $89 AUD :(.

Those hi res pics are great but now I don't want to wait, I want it now!

[kaiden]

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1389715065_1545215_621527697913174__zps92e374ed.jp g

[5FDP]

^ That looks AWESOME :cool:

[BigTransformerTrev]

Lets hope the exchange rate stays about the same. $55AU is a great deal.

Do they bill you as soon as you put in the order or when it arrives? And what is their 'private warehouse' option? Is that like BBTS's POL? I've never used HLJ before but just created an account

[1AZRAEL1]

Do they bill you as soon as you put in the order or when it arrives? And what is their 'private warehouse' option? Is that like BBTS's POL? I've never used HLJ before but just created an account

Yea it's similar to POL. When they arrive, they'll ask for payment for the item instead of just charging when it arrives like BBTS. At least thats how I have mine setup. They have a 60 day limit on the warehouse too.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Yea it's similar to POL. When they arrive, they'll ask for payment for the item instead of just charging when it arrives like BBTS. At least thats how I have mine setup. They have a 60 day limit on the warehouse too.

Cheers mate :) Do you know if you can cancel pre-orders if necessary?

[1AZRAEL1]

Yea should be easy enough. Though once it comes in and you cancel it, they do tend to get a lil annoyed.

[Hursticon]

Yea should be easy enough. Though once it comes in and you cancel it, they do tend to get a lil annoyed.

Yeah, I've heard of a number of black-listings occurring because of people backing out at the last minute. ;)

My account was set up to automatically take payment but I've no idea how I set that up :o:rolleyes:, since then though they've changed money handlers to PayPal.

Gotta find out if you now HAVE to pay through paypal, or if they will simply just facilitate payment.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Yea should be easy enough. Though once it comes in and you cancel it, they do tend to get a lil annoyed.

Good on ya! :) Put my order in now :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Happy I've preordered now but not happy about the Oz dollar conversion rate - with postage mine cost $89 AUD :(.
Express? I usually choose the cheapest (and also slowest) delivery method. :o

[Sinnertwin]

Cheers mate :) Do you know if you can cancel pre-orders if necessary?



They also send you out emails letting you know how long your item/s have beem sitting in their Private Warehouse. I find it a handy tool when using the PW option. As the others have noted, you can set up how you'd like to pay for it quite easily -it's one of the last steps before finalising an order.

Just be aware that HLJ don't pack their boxes with any padding, styro etc. In my experience all i received was the item heat wrapped in plastic with a cardboard backer & put in the shipping carton. Not as bad as Amazon, but not as good as BBTS either

[CBratron]

Express? I usually choose the cheapest (and also slowest) delivery method. :o

I'm like that. Cheapest I can go but it MUST INCLUDE TRACKING. I'd go insane without knowing where it is.

[Hursticon]

Express? I usually choose the cheapest (and also slowest) delivery method. :o

I don't think I've paid above $20AUD (After Conversion) for EMS from Japan ever on any of my MP Cars; FortMax (5kg) & Metroplex (2.5kg) were $89AUD & $75AUD respectively but all were at my door within 4-5 days. :)

Considering that sending an average sized parcel interstate costs a minimum of $10 these days, I'm happy to pay $20 to have something of equivalent size arrive from the Northern Hemisphere faster than I can get something from a neighbouring state. ;):cool:

[GoktimusPrime]

Surprisingly Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%8 3%83%E3%82%AF-amazon-co-jp%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8-%E3%83%92%E3%83%A5%E3%83%97%E3%83%8E%E3%83%86%E3%8 3%83%E3%83%97%E5%AF%BE%E6%8A%97%E8%A3%85%E7%BD%AE/dp/B00HTYPE5G/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1389757122&sr=8-6&keywords=%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%8 3%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF) currently has Wheeljack on preorder for full retail! And so far no news of any exclusive bonus content. Oh well, looks like I'll be sticking w/ HLJ on this one then (unless Amazon drops their price and/or offers some groovy bonus goodie :p). :o

[Sinnertwin]

Further to Hursti's post, I was charged $16US for EMS for two MP Datsuns from HLJ.

[drifand]

Just be aware that HLJ don't pack their boxes with any padding, styro etc. In my experience all i received was the item heat wrapped in plastic with a cardboard backer & put in the shipping carton. Not as bad as Amazon, but not as good as BBTS either

That doesn't sound correct, if anything HLJ has the best packaging I gotten so far.

Depending on amounts ordered and size certain postage options are better than another. I have no issues with ANY of the Japanese online stores coming in SAL uninsured.

I do not understand why Amiami is forever sold out for almost every single toy released. Seriously, I don't understand. either they do not stock up at all or something.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Surprisingly Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%8 3%83%E3%82%AF-amazon-co-jp%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8-%E3%83%92%E3%83%A5%E3%83%97%E3%83%8E%E3%83%86%E3%8 3%83%E3%83%97%E5%AF%BE%E6%8A%97%E8%A3%85%E7%BD%AE/dp/B00HTYPE5G/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1389757122&sr=8-6&keywords=%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%8 3%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF) currently has Wheeljack on preorder for full retail! And so far no news of any exclusive bonus content. Oh well, looks like I'll be sticking w/ HLJ on this one then (unless Amazon drops their price and/or offers some groovy bonus goodie :p). :o

Amazon's initial listing is almost always full retail. They'll revise it some point afterwards to be competitive. You can order now (in case they sell out) because their preorder price guarantee and no fuss cancellation will cover you should you decide to get it somewhere else.

[Hursticon]

That doesn't sound correct, if anything HLJ has the best packaging I gotten so far.

Each of my Datos came exactly as Sinnertwin described, my FortMax & Metroplex had a single layer of bubble-wrap enshrouding them - that said, even though that all sounds iffy in writing, I've not received anything damaged by transit from HLJ to date. :cool:


I do not understand why Amiami is forever sold out for almost every single toy released. Seriously, I don't understand. either they do not stock up at all or something.

The going opinion seems to be that they're a smaller store than HLJ and only ever seem to procure a limited amount of stock; whether that's because they don't have as much buying power, or TFs just not being a primary focus? - Who knows. :)

[drifand]

Each of my Datos came exactly as Sinnertwin described, my FortMax & Metroplex had a single layer of bubble-wrap enshrouding them - that said, even though that all sounds iffy in writing, I've not received anything damaged by transit from HLJ to date. :cool:



The going opinion seems to be that they're a smaller store than HLJ and only ever seem to procure a limited amount of stock; whether that's because that don't have as much buying power or TFs just not being a primary focus? - Who knows. :)

Yeah I have not gotten anything damaged from hlj, but in comparison to most places I ordered their packaging is heaps better.

As for Amiami, I heard they are one of the largest store but their online inventory for toys are always shocking. Is like within 2 minutes is always sold out. Their hobby kits were one of the only things so far I could order with no hassles. But for toys is almost mere impossible. I noticed this for Transformer masterpiece, chogokins or any popular hot toy as they have low prices.

Anime Export has cheapest so far, but I have not ordered from them regularly and you have to pay upfront. HLJ has the best ordering system I know so far.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Each of my Datos came exactly as Sinnertwin described, my FortMax & Metroplex had a single layer of bubble-wrap enshrouding them - that said, even though that all sounds iffy in writing, I've not received anything damaged by transit from HLJ to date. :cool:



The going opinion seems to be that they're a smaller store than HLJ and only ever seem to procure a limited amount of stock; whether that's because they don't have as much buying power, or TFs just not being a primary focus? - Who knows. :)

Because they're small they probably don't want to be left with unsold stock like you see on the bigger retailers. Similar thing happens with local video game outlets in Japan, if they over order eventually they have to compete with clearance prices elsewhere and lose out. I think they come across as bigger than they actually are since they were one of the first retailers to get an English presence. There's heaps and heaps of similar sized retailers on Rakuten Japan that just don't deal with English customers at all and are also quickly and forever sold out.

[kurdt_the_goat]

The join/gap on the chest is going to bother me if the paint apps don't hide it a little.

Yeah it's interesting that the chest looks identical in both modes, so presumably that split is just a result of those pieces needing to move during transformation to give some other piece clearance. Hopefully his paint apps will probably do a decent enough job masking it, I just hope it lines up and holds in place securely.

My only real complaint so far is the back of his feet look a bit floaty, but that's just a design pet peeve of mine really and probably isn't obvious from most angles.

[Hursticon]

Yeah I have not gotten anything damaged from hlj, but in comparison to most places I ordered their packaging is heaps better.

Whilst I wouldn't place their packaging last on a list, Amazon takes that position :rolleyes::p, I'd have to say that AmiAmi, RobotKingdom, BBTS & TFSource are superior in that department. :)


As for Amiami, I heard they are one of the largest store but their online inventory for toys are always shocking. Is like within 2 minutes is always sold out. Their hobby kits were one of the only things so far I could order with no hassles. But for toys is almost mere impossible. I noticed this for Transformer masterpiece, chogokins or any popular hot toy as they have low prices.

I can't speak to their physical presence, but beyond notoriety their online store certainly seems smaller. *shrugs*


Anime Export has cheapest so far, but I have not ordered from them regularly and you have to pay upfront. HLJ has the best ordering system I know so far.

I'd put their ordering system on par to that of TFSource's, personally, but whilst Anime Export may be the cheapest at this point - I simply can't afford to front the cash up now as I need to save up. :o
(That's the only reason I didn't jump when @TheJackSack (https://twitter.com/TheJackSack/status/421679887129137152) tweeted the scoop ;))

[Hursticon]

Because they're small they probably don't want to be left with unsold stock like you see on the bigger retailers. Similar thing happens with local video game outlets in Japan, if they over order eventually they have to compete with clearance prices elsewhere and lose out. I think they come across as bigger than they actually are since they were one of the first retailers to get an English presence. There's heaps and heaps of similar sized retailers on Rakuten Japan that just don't deal with English customers at all and are also quickly and forever sold out.

Ah!, ok - interesting... That's a good point actually & I hadn't considered that, good on them for being one of the 1st off the block to open up to "English" customers too. :)

[drifand]

Interestingly my wheeljack's shipping cost less than G2 Sideswipe. lol

[UltraMarginal]

Now the question is: Where is the cheapest place to pre-order them from? Sick of paying BBTS prices when it seems they are cheaper most everywhere else.

Anime-Export as previously mentioned.


Seems like Anime E now listed it at 4550 yen pre-order, you can't really go wrong but I am unsure how their shipping is like.

they were pretty good when I used them. I ordered Fort Max, Animated Version Reissue Devastator and a couple other items from them. it all came nicely wrapped in bubble wrap but there was a bit of air in the box which would not have provided much support if treated too roughly.

While they require up front payment they do not charge for shipping until the item is packed and ready to ship. by default they use the cheapest shipping method.

my biggest gripe was they contacted me prior to shipping to say that they didn't have the Alternity Thundercracker that I ordered, I got a refund that effectively went towards shipping. I later contacted them and asked why it was still listed as in stock on their site. they said they would fix it.

it's now a year later and they still list it as in stock. I honestly think they couldn't get it to fit in the box so they left it out. rather than find a larger box and spending more on packing.

I double ordered G2 Sideswipe and Wheeljack through them on Monday. they should both ship together in August.


I'm pretty excited about this wheeljack, like everyone else I'm a little bit worried by the apparent nuber of joints on the chest/roof.

[maxirod]

Out of all the places mentioned. Which one would have the cheapest shipping rates?

[drifand]

^ Anime Export, but the only disadvantage is payment upfront, but otherwise is pretty good.

[yoshi594]

payment upfront isn't totally a bad thing when the yen is soo low for now...

[drifand]

payment upfront isn't totally a bad thing when the yen is soo low for now...

and this is true as well, so you need to weigh up what works for you best.

[griffin]

Surprisingly Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%8 3%83%E3%82%AF-amazon-co-jp%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8-%E3%83%92%E3%83%A5%E3%83%97%E3%83%8E%E3%83%86%E3%8 3%83%E3%83%97%E5%AF%BE%E6%8A%97%E8%A3%85%E7%BD%AE/dp/B00HTYPE5G/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1389757122&sr=8-6&keywords=%E3%83%9B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%8 3%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF) currently has Wheeljack on preorder for full retail! And so far no news of any exclusive bonus content. Oh well, looks like I'll be sticking w/ HLJ on this one then (unless Amazon drops their price and/or offers some groovy bonus goodie :p). :o

Amazon JP's exclusive extra was announced at post #171 (the anti-hypnosis device - the "lunchbox").

It's even shown on Amazon JP's product page (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00HTYPE5G).

[yoshi594]

Amazon JP's exclusive extra was announced at post #171 (the anti-hypnosis device - the "lunchbox").

It's even shown on Amazon JP's product page (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00HTYPE5G).

he can hold the lunchbox too! i wonder if he can store it away in car mode...possibly on his hood? maybe the gun can attach onto it somehow

[Tober]

Out of all the places mentioned. Which one would have the cheapest shipping rates?

HLJ usually. Or one of the Honk Kong stores (Robot Kingdom, E-Hobby Base Shop etc).

Robot Kingdom have the Amazon Japan Exclusive Gift (Anti-Hypnosis accessory) included with their pre-orders (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp20.html). Payment + shipping upfront.

Anime Export typically have the cheapest prices and ship first amongst the export stores, but if there is a problem prepare to be ignored by their customer support.

[GoktimusPrime]

Amazon JP's exclusive extra was announced at post #171 (the anti-hypnosis device - the "lunchbox").

It's even shown on Amazon JP's product page (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00HTYPE5G).
Oh right, I dunno why, but it'd gotten into my mind that it was a standard accessory. :p :o

[kaiden]

hmm... RK has no mention of a coin

[Ultra Mackness]

I'll be pretty annoyed if RK don't supply the coin as well, it's themain reason I've ordered the last few MPs throught them. Although it is on their preorder page for MP Wheeljack that he will come with the anti hypnosis device but only on a first come first served basis.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp20.html

[Megatran]

I'll be pretty annoyed if RK don't supply the coin as well, it's themain reason I've ordered the last few MPs throught them. Although it is on their preorder page for MP Wheeljack that he will come with the anti hypnosis device but only on a first come first served basis.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp20.html

The collector coin doesn't do anything for me. I've just got rid of a few at bargain prices for a fellow member to enjoy. The Amazon exclusive anti-hypnosis accessory, on the other hand, is a welcome addition.

Just noticed from the link that RK has removed the 5% discount for MP Wheeljack. They did mention that the discount will end 1.5 months before its release or earlier. In this case, it's earlier!

[GoktimusPrime]

The collector coin doesn't do anything for me. I've just got rid of a few at bargain prices for a fellow member to enjoy. The Amazon exclusive anti-hypnosis accessory, on the other hand, is a welcome addition.
+1. I'm gonna preorder from Amazon... I'll wait until they confirm their preorder discount price before cancelling my HLJ preorder though (juuust in case). ;) Worse case scenario I might end up w/ a spare MP Wheeljack which I'm sure I can sell off to someone else. :p

[drifand]

kind of let down that these accessories don't go with normal online retailers?
I don't care about the coins but the weapons and such have been....come on.
Oh well.....suck in.

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

so would it be a bad thing not to pre order? Might sound silly but my reason is that i have moved house and will be moving again (just sold and in between properties) in 6 months.

[Iriorne]

so would it be a bad thing not to pre order? Might sound silly but my reason is that i have moved house and will be moving again (just sold and in between properties) in 6 months.

Preordering from Anime-export or HLJ is safe as you don't have to specify a shipping address until you're ready to ship.

[drifand]

Preordering from Anime-export or HLJ is safe as you don't have to specify a shipping address until you're ready to ship.

I would have signed up for a parcel locker and not worry about where you move.
PLUS you can collect it from the elocker 48hrs and if you don't just get it from the post office.

Did I mention parcel locker are free?

[BigTransformerTrev]

HLJ, Anime Export, BBTS, Amazon, Robot Kingdom etc, been surfing them all to find a good pre-order deal for Wheeljack. :rolleyes:

I wonder how hard it would be to set up an Aussie company like that. I'd happily quit teaching to run it if it would make a profit and Aussies could get their toys without paying enormous shipping rates. :)

[Iriorne]

I would have signed up for a parcel locker and not worry about where you move.
PLUS you can collect it from the elocker 48hrs and if you don't just get it from the post office.

Did I mention parcel locker are free?

I've been using the Auspost parcel lockers since they first rolled out and they're great - I highly recommend them to everyone. 24/7 pickup for the first 48 hours so no more racing to the post office by 5pm to get your missed deliveries. :) Just be aware that they do still need a street address (of the post office) so it may not be convenient after a move unless you work nearby and aren't changing jobs. They also don't accept deliveries from third parties (couriers - UPS, TNT, FedEx) yet. The wording can be confusing but anything that would be delivered by regular mail is fine, including airmail, SAL, EMS, even iParcel.


I wonder how hard it would be to set up an Aussie company like that.

Personally, I'm not sure the market in Australia is big enough to make a living exclusively selling transformers. For a small retailer, and especially if you want to sell the expensive third party items, the risk of unsold inventory is too high and could be crippling if you make a bad call on which products to stock. Also meeting obligations under Australian Consumer Law as well as import duties and GST could add significantly to your overheads. Not to mention that Australian domestic postage is relatively expensive so it could cost as much or more to send something around the country as it does to ship from Asia.

I could be completely wrong, but that's my 'gut feel'. :)

[drifand]

HLJ, Anime Export, BBTS, Amazon, Robot Kingdom etc, been surfing them all to find a good pre-order deal for Wheeljack. :rolleyes:

I wonder how hard it would be to set up an Aussie company like that. I'd happily quit teaching to run it if it would make a profit and Aussies could get their toys without paying enormous shipping rates. :)

Will not be easy, as you be competing with established reputable online stores.

[drifand]

I've been using the Auspost parcel lockers since they first rolled out and they're great - I highly recommend them to everyone. 24/7 pickup for the first 48 hours so no more racing to the post office by 5pm to get your missed deliveries. :) Just be aware that they do still need a street address (of the post office) so it may not be convenient after a move unless you work nearby and aren't changing jobs. They also don't accept deliveries from third parties (couriers - UPS, TNT, FedEx) yet. The wording can be confusing but anything that would be delivered by regular mail is fine, including airmail, SAL, EMS, even iParcel.

For me, I never FedEx or go expensive shipping as yet, other than EMS due to size of the item. I even have two parcel lockers location. Best part is SAL uninsured or registered is secured in the locker, no drop offs to the door step and worrying if someone steals it.

I have not encountered any issues other than the item was too big and just needed to go to the Post office and collect the item which is still better than a "we missed you" slip in your letter box.

[GoktimusPrime]

so would it be a bad thing not to pre order? Might sound silly but my reason is that i have moved house and will be moving again (just sold and in between properties) in 6 months.
Keep in mind that HLJ doesn't charge you until after the toy comes out -- so if you move in June/July, would you be able to pay the preorder + shipping cost for an MP Wheeljack in a month's or two's time?

[1AZRAEL1]

Keep in mind that HLJ doesn't charge you until after the toy comes out -- so if you move in June/July, would you be able to pay the preorder + shipping cost for an MP Wheeljack in a month's or two's time?

Well he has to pay for the figure within 3 days then has 60 days before he has to ship it. Also need the Private Warehouse turned on.

[drifand]

Well he has to pay for the figure within 3 days then has 60 days before he has to ship it. Also need the Private Warehouse turned on.

Yup, but the parcel locker would have solved almost everything regardless he move. It just goes to the locker where he decides, and gets a sms when it arrives. HLJ would have probably delayed his shipping more than sufficient.

My concerns, NOT that it regularly happens is that pre-order prices are normally lower than released date price. Though I have seen stores that actually brings it down to sale price and makes pre-order like irrelevant.

I am going on a trip and I still have two items with HLJ, which I will arrange probably next week. was hoping some of my other pre-order items to be in stock so I could combine ship.

Amiami's combine shipping by monthly is a bit unpredictable when the item suddenly appears and another is not.

[GoktimusPrime]

Perhaps another alternative is to ask a friend to preorder MP Wheeljack and then pay that friend back later?


My concerns, NOT that it regularly happens is that pre-order prices are normally lower than released date price. Though I have seen stores that actually brings it down to sale price and makes pre-order like irrelevant.
Oh yeah, this totally happens too. But as you said, usually not. :o

[llamatron]

HLJ, Anime Export, BBTS, Amazon, Robot Kingdom etc, been surfing them all to find a good pre-order deal for Wheeljack. :rolleyes:

I wonder how hard it would be to set up an Aussie company like that. I'd happily quit teaching to run it if it would make a profit and Aussies could get their toys without paying enormous shipping rates. :)

I think that Australia Post delivery charges + time would absolute kill such an endeavor.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I think that Australia Post delivery charges + time would absolute kill such an endeavor.

Yeah, sigh, a man can dream...


Never understood why Stuart looks so miserable on Big Bang Theory, I'd love to run a comics & collectables shop. Maybe more like Banki from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back though ;)

[Megatran]

RK has updated availability date (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp21.html) of MP-21 Bumblebee to 3rd Quarter 2014. :rolleyes:

[Sinnertwin]

RK has updated availability date (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp21.html) of MP-21 Bumblebee to 3rd Quarter 2014. :rolleyes:

It was the 1 & 1/2 month thing, wasn't it?