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griffin
5th September 2013, 02:42 AM
Platinum Predaking was up for pre-order for some time on Amazon, but it has now finally shipped (for anyone who ordered one from there).

For anyone else interested in this figure (looks to be a re-release of the TakaraTomy 2010 version, with an extra sword), it is still available at Amazon for US$120 plus $12.18 shipping. (http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Platinum-Edition-Predaking-Exclusive/dp/B00CM5DA62/ref=sr_1_45?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1378312222&sr=1-45&keywords=transformers)
For under $30 a toy, and they are bigger than a Deluxe, that's pretty good... especially for this Combiner, being the biggest of Gen1.

serialmonkey
5th September 2013, 12:25 PM
Pre-orders from BBTS for this shipped this morning as well.

Lint
5th September 2013, 01:32 PM
Yep got my shipping notice from Amazon. Is the extra sword a real thing? If so, fantastic!

Omega Metro
5th September 2013, 02:23 PM
Don't know if this is the norm with Amazon but the only person who reviewed Predaking has stated that his arrived without packaging and arrived damaged. Just something to consider if you are thinking of getting this through amazon.

griffin
6th September 2013, 01:33 AM
That sounds odd, and possibly (hopefully) was just a one-off mistake at the warehouse, as previous Platinum sets have been sent in Amazon boxes. (and it's the first I've heard them doing this)


I once had an expensive JP toy sent from Asia that was just the toy box wrapped in paper... so as expected, it got a bit crushed.

DELTAprime
6th September 2013, 03:19 AM
That sounds odd, and possibly (hopefully) was just a one-off mistake at the warehouse, as previous Platinum sets have been sent in Amazon boxes. (and it's the first I've heard them doing this)


I once had an expensive JP toy sent from Asia that was just the toy box wrapped in paper... so as expected, it got a bit crushed.

Actually Amazon does that on some items. I also collect Star Wars 3.75inch figures. Amazon pissed off a ton of Star Wars collectors when they shipped Slave I without a packaging box (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Amazon_Exclusive_Slave_I_Found_At_Discount_ Stores_153921.asp). I guess Amazon have not learned from their mistake. If you read the related articles on rebelscum you will see just how worked up the Star Wars fans got over the "Slave I Debacle".

Ravagecat
6th September 2013, 12:30 PM
I received an email from Amazon the other day asking me to provide feedback on their shipping packaging etc. for my last order with them :rolleyes:

I was a bit peeved that they put two heavy books loose in the bottom of the amazon box :mad: During transit they slid and rubbed on each other leaving scuffs indents etc.

I'll be mentioning that they should at least put a layer of tissue paper between the books or something?? But they probably wont listen...

Paulbot
6th September 2013, 01:02 PM
Don't know if this is the norm with Amazon but the only person who reviewed Predaking has stated that his arrived without packaging and arrived damaged. Just something to consider if you are thinking of getting this through amazon.

I got Metroplex from Amazon. The Metroplex box was inside another slightly larger box, but that was it. No other packaging/padding/wrapping.

Sinnertwin
6th September 2013, 01:10 PM
I only ever purchase from Amazon if i intend on opening the item. Their packaging material is nonexistant. You may get the odd scrap bit of plastic buffer or paper.

griffin
6th September 2013, 01:58 PM
As I noted in the Amazon items topic, if you are after cheap figures that you intend to open, they are the way to go. Otherwise, pay a little more and shop from somewhere that caters to collectors, not the average consumer.

Lint
10th September 2013, 06:31 PM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykf1c7.jpg


I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

Bidoofdude
10th September 2013, 06:40 PM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykf1c7.jpg


I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

What in the bloody hell do they think that is?!?!? I would be outraged! :eek::mad:

nexusnixx
10th September 2013, 06:43 PM
What sort of packaging is this? It's just using the product's box as shipping box

Not impressed!!

MayzaPrime
10th September 2013, 06:51 PM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykf1c7.jpg


I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

Man! I would be pi$$ed off! I hope you are contacting them

Omega Metro
10th September 2013, 07:18 PM
I told you so :p (post 4)
I am getting mine from BBTS.

Lint
10th September 2013, 07:28 PM
I told you so :p (post 4)
I am getting mine from BBTS.

I preordered this yonks ago :o. But for those you want that box minty fresh definitely go with BBTS.

On the bright side, as someone who has never owned and barely ever played with a G1 Predaking THIS TOY KICKS BUTT!!!! I really hope whoever designed this won an award or something. :D

The additional sword is definitely a needed addition, though once again it could have been bigger. (It is only an inch longer than Razorclaw's sword)

I haven't noticed anything serious in the mold degradation department. All accessories peg in tightly and all swivel joints are reasonably tight. Only things I found a little loose are the combiner pegs, but this might be normal? :confused:

DELTAprime
10th September 2013, 07:30 PM
Clearly they have learned nothing from the people they pissed off with the Slave I earlier in the year. I have 5 Star Wars 3.75 inch figures on order at Amazon. Surely they will put them in a box.... I hope.


I haven't noticed anything serious in the mold degradation department. All accessories peg in tightly and all swivel joints are reasonably tight. Only things I found a little loose are the combiner pegs, but this might be normal? :confused:

That might be mold degradation, my 2010 Takara reissue is tight. Is this reissue plastic or die-cast?

Chinta63
10th September 2013, 07:41 PM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykf1c7.jpg


I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

Wtf!! I would have been in a bad mood for days!! Very very not impressed!!

lancalot
10th September 2013, 07:51 PM
OMG!! you should post that on their review page !! and write to them ! That just not right ...

Lint
10th September 2013, 07:52 PM
Clearly they have learned nothing from the people they pissed off with the Slave I earlier in the year. I have 5 Star Wars 3.75 inch figures on order at Amazon. Surely they will put them in a box.... I hope.



That might be mold degradation, my 2010 Takara reissue is tight. Is this reissue plastic or die-cast?

Die cast. Could be mold degradation. He seemed a bit slouchy at the shoulders and the legs come off without much force at all.

Hursticon
10th September 2013, 09:26 PM
Die cast. Could be mold degradation. He seemed a bit slouchy at the shoulders and the legs come off without much force at all.

That could just be the sheer weight though :); I too have the 2010 Takara reissue (Went through the same levels of amazement & joy as yourself here ;):D) and whilst my connections are tight, there is definite signs of a lot of weight being bared. :o

That effort on Amazon's part though is absolutely deplorable :mad:, I'd seriously consider writing up a review on the site if only to let others know what to expect. :(

Starscream77
10th September 2013, 10:11 PM
That is disgusting from Amazon
Mental note not to order from them

GoktimusPrime
10th September 2013, 10:42 PM
I once had an expensive JP toy sent from Asia that was just the toy box wrapped in paper... so as expected, it got a bit crushed.
That happened w/ my 2000 reissue G1 Convoy. Though it was a free gift, so I guess no real grounds to complain. :o

Ae-Evolution
10th September 2013, 11:10 PM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ykf1c7.jpg


I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

Wow..... Mine actually came in a box box.


Size comparison, rises to around 28cms and he IS heavy, heavier than en Energon/YOTS Omega supreme.
http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3323/qsm1.jpg

griffin
11th September 2013, 11:44 PM
Demand a refund, or partial credit. (go through their live Customer Service module and give them the image link to see what they have to say about it at least)
Even if you don't keep the box (which you should with these nice shiny ones :p ), the packaging is designed to be for display by collectors.
I could understand if they did it to a general release item, like say Metroplex, but even still, I'd be annoyed at not having the chance to have "keepable" or displayable packaging.
(not to mention, the chance of the single bit of tape breaking in transit and items inside come out and are lost)

I really hope mine doesn't arrive like that.

Cat
12th September 2013, 01:43 AM
A lot shipped like that at first (not all, but a substantial number), Amazon is aware of customer fury, and any yet to be shipped will now all be shipped in an outer box.

If yours arrives without an outer box, complain. Yes, they already know, but volume never hurts, especially to cover the international POV, and demand a credit for at least part of the shipping.

UltraMarginal
12th September 2013, 11:53 AM
I'm no MISB collector but coming home to this %^& makes me cry :(
Shame on you Amazon.

I actually didn't cry, but was still not very impressed :p

WOW, I'd be completely ropeable if I recieved something in that condition from anyone.

Definitely complain to them with pictures. I know they are trying to save wherever they can with shipping but that's going too far.

As for your loose joints, I actually only just opened my 2010 reissue last night and transformed them all to their individual robot modes. I totally agree with you, for it's age the design is really well done. I haven't noticed anything particularly loose yet except for a couple of beast mode legs hanging loosely in the robot mode.

Later this week some time I'm going to sticker up and combine the sucker. I also have the third party sword that was producd a couple years ago to give the combined mode a bit more oomf.:cool:

Sinnertwin
12th September 2013, 11:06 PM
That's really poor, even by Amazon's pathetic standards. There's only so much 'cost saving' can justify.

Lint
12th September 2013, 11:46 PM
Demand a refund, or partial credit. (go through their live Customer Service module and give them the image link to see what they have to say about it at least)
Even if you don't keep the box (which you should with these nice shiny ones :p ), the packaging is designed to be for display by collectors.
I could understand if they did it to a general release item, like say Metroplex, but even still, I'd be annoyed at not having the chance to have "keepable" or displayable packaging.
(not to mention, the chance of the single bit of tape breaking in transit and items inside come out and are lost)

I really hope mine doesn't arrive like that.

I'll give it a shot for the sake of all you collector folk :p
But mostly because a partial refund sounds attractive and Amazon do need to be punished for this crappery of a service.

Lint
13th September 2013, 12:16 AM
I'll give it a shot for the sake of all you collector folk :p
But mostly because a partial refund sounds attractive and Amazon do need to be punished for this crappery of a service.

Got a partial refund of 20%. A replacement or full refund was also offered but that would involve re-boxing old Preds and sending him back to the states. As I am perfectly happy with Preds as he is (and too lazy to twistytie him back up) I settled for the partial refund.

They did all this without a shred of evidence. Still sucks though, can't really say I got a good deal. :rolleyes:

kurdt_the_goat
13th September 2013, 02:39 AM
No evidence eh?
If you get a good parcel next time, at least you know what to do to get a good deal for real :)

Lint
13th September 2013, 08:32 AM
No evidence eh?
If you get a good parcel next time, at least you know what to do to get a good deal for real :)

The Amazon customer service person at the other end of the chat line put me on hold for more than a few minutes at the get-go before offering a full replacement or refund. I like to imagine she spent those good few minutes sifting through a sea of similar complaints from other angry customers who bought this item.:D

UltraMarginal
13th September 2013, 10:14 AM
well it's a resolution of sorts and will be entered in their system as an unneccesary expense.

Now all you have to worry about is enjoying your new predaking.

griffin
16th September 2013, 01:24 AM
Mine arrived on saturday...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/a747.jpg

Now to see if I can send it back for a replacement.

griffin
16th September 2013, 02:54 AM
While the item remains suspended (under review - likely due to the complaints and refunds), they can't issue a replacement... so I have to get back to them when Predaking is available for ordering again.
As long as the item remains unopened, I have until October 10th to request a replacement.

After a bit of nagging, they issued a return authorisation.
Unfortunately, since it is likely a different address, the post office is not likely to allow me to 'return to sender' for free. (the original address label is covered up by an Australia Post shipping label, so unless their tracking computer has Amazon's address, they won't know where to return it to)

So either way I'm out, as I'm likely to be paying a lot in shipping (it is heavy), and since I want the packaging, the other option is buying another one and selling this one at a loss.

Omega Metro
16th September 2013, 08:09 AM
That's Amazon for you!:mad:

lancalot
16th September 2013, 03:32 PM
So either way I'm out, as I'm likely to be paying a lot in shipping (it is heavy), and since I want the packaging, the other option is buying another one and selling this one at a loss.

That be so annoying ! you could also get a discount on it from them instead couldn't you ?. so at least you wouldn't be selling it at a loss ..

griffin
18th September 2013, 12:13 AM
If I send it back for a replacement, and have to pay postage (because it might not be going back to the exact location that sent it, so might not qualify for return-to-sender), it will cost me a minimum of $62.35. :(
(just goes to show how good Amazon shipping is)

I might look at getting the partial credit instead, and just see if I can sell this one for at least the difference... And see if I can remove the labels without damaging the box too much.

jazzcomp
18th September 2013, 08:26 AM
If I send it back for a replacement, and have to pay postage (because it might not be going back to the exact location that sent it, so might not qualify for return-to-sender), it will cost me a minimum of $62.35. :(
(just goes to show how good Amazon shipping is)

I might look at getting the partial credit instead, and just see if I can sell this one for at least the difference... And see if I can remove the labels without damaging the box too much.
I'd be interested :)

jazzcomp
18th September 2013, 09:04 AM
posted in the other amazon link :) thought it disappeared.
http://otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=374901&postcount=118

drbunny
27th September 2013, 11:06 AM
How much did it cost you to buy and ship to Australia for Predaking from Amazon?

griffin
27th September 2013, 01:31 PM
Predaking is now available again from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CM5DA62/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1). Which would explain the automated email I got saying that since I was a recent customer, if I was not satisfied with the one I got, I can now claim a replacement.

For the question above, shipping to me was $12.18 (because the weight is wrong on this item - it only says it weighs a pound, which is only about 400gms).
It's probably why they were skimping on the packaging, because they were losing too much money on shipping, but no one has thought to correct the weight of the item on the listing.

griffin
4th October 2013, 03:33 AM
If I send it back for a replacement, and have to pay postage (because it might not be going back to the exact location that sent it, so might not qualify for return-to-sender), it will cost me a minimum of $62.35. :(
(just goes to show how good Amazon shipping is)

I might look at getting the partial credit instead, and just see if I can sell this one for at least the difference... And see if I can remove the labels without damaging the box too much.

I managed to get the "replacement authorisation" cancelled, and got a partial refund instead (30% - I only asked for 20%) so that I can just order another one. When the second one gets here, I'll look at finding a buyer for the first one, as close to the difference as I can.

Megatran
4th October 2013, 08:22 AM
Those boxes look appalling. Filthy if you enjoy keeping the box or are a collector. SHAME ON AMAZON.

In stark contrast, my BBTS Predaking box came encased in its orignal snug brown outer cardboard carton as added protection. I had mine shipped as PoL so he was placed inside a larger shipping box. Paid a little more through BBTS, but worth it I reckon.

jazzcomp
4th October 2013, 08:46 AM
Disappointed that this platinum edition box doesn't have a front cover that's book style to open to display. I thought it'd be the same as Omega, Prime and Magnus.

Megatran
4th October 2013, 09:10 AM
Disappointed that this platinum edition box doesn't have a front cover that's book style to open to display. I thought it'd be the same as Omega, Prime and Magnus.

No doubt that the 'book cover' styled box would be good for collectors or those who want to display him in the box.

However, all my TF toys are for play and displayed out of the box. The enjoyment it brings to my wife & I when the nephews come to visit is priceless. And the empty box would look pretty silly when you open the 'book cover'.

griffin
4th October 2013, 12:40 PM
I ordered several other items as well, so it should be packed in a box this time... hopefully. It might get a little dented, but that's better than big shipping labels on it.

kurdt_the_goat
4th October 2013, 06:45 PM
Just out of interest Griffin, are you concerned for your box because you keep them all?
I can't begin to imagine the amount of storage you must need for the amount you buy if so!

griffin
5th October 2013, 12:58 AM
I do keep all the packaging, but flatten all the regular Hasbro stuff.

I just got a notice from Amazon that the Predaking has shipped... on its own. Either I ordered too much stuff to have in one box, or they really want to keep shipping these things without a box. :(

i_amtrunks
10th October 2013, 07:05 PM
I ordered mine with 3 deluxes and a voyager and got Predaking in his own little box in a box. Everything arrived nice, neat and sticker free.

Predaking is a little loose in the joints butt he mold itself holds up well.

Cat
10th October 2013, 11:56 PM
Predaking is a little loose in the joints butt he mold itself holds up well.



Nothing worse than a loose butt.

reillyd
11th October 2013, 12:11 AM
Nothing worse than a loose butt.


That's what she said!

griffin
26th October 2013, 06:27 AM
I do keep all the packaging, but flatten all the regular Hasbro stuff.

I just got a notice from Amazon that the Predaking has shipped... on its own. Either I ordered too much stuff to have in one box, or they really want to keep shipping these things without a box. :(

It arrived a week ago, in a separate shipping box, undamaged this time. :)
Since they are packed one to a master carton from the factory, I don't know why Amazon are removing them, just to put it in different carton to ship it.


Compared to the 2010 JP version, the gold is slightly different (noticeable next to each other, but not if they are apart).

Megatran
15th November 2013, 06:08 PM
Platinum Predaking on 24 hour sale at BBTS. Doesn't quote when the sale actually started. Going for US$85 + shipping.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS22988&mode=retail

(first time I've tried to attach a link on this forum so apologies if it doesn't work).

Ultra Mackness
13th December 2013, 09:43 PM
Platinum Predaking is currently on special through Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Platinum-Edition-Predaking-Exclusive/dp/B00CM5DA62/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_165793011_a1_1_p?ie=UTF8&refRID=0RD5GFEBPF0E5CB230KA

At $49.99 and $25 shipping to Oz (just ordered one :))

redhot_rodimus
13th December 2013, 11:53 PM
Me too thanks

1orion2many
14th December 2013, 12:22 AM
$129.99 now:rolleyes:

jazzcomp
14th December 2013, 12:42 AM
that was quick

griffin
14th December 2013, 01:42 AM
It's back down to US$80.

(maybe the keep allocating set numbers to sell cheap just to draw more attention back to it from the word-of-mouth of the sale price)


They've also fixed up the weight too, from 1 pound to 4 pounds (about 2kgs), which is why shipping is double what it cost people back when it was first released (at $11).