MP's Prowl, Smokescreen & Bluestreak released by HASBRO?

[TazD]

Hi, Just wanted to know if I should purchase the 3 MP's Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak by Takara, as I would be assuming that Hasbro's version would be cheaper, therefore wait for their release??? Thanks.

[Lint]

A Hasbro release is uncertain at the moment and the precendent set by the MP Sideswipe mold doesn't look good. So I would recommend getting the Takara versions.

[1AZRAEL1]

What Lint said. It's not looking likely that hasbro will release them. Personally I'd err on side of caution and get em. Which I have them on order already lol. Aftermarket prices are beyonda joke.

[Sinnertwin]

Get them now while they're at a reasonable price.

[UltraMarginal]

what they all said, it's not looking likely that all if any of them will be released by Hasbro. There has been no news of it happening at all. even for the sideswipe/red alert mold.

[GoktimusPrime]

Get them now while they're at a reasonable price.
^This. You can get 'em for about $50~60ish at preorder prices. I doubt a Hasbro release would be much cheaper than that (at least not at first; unless the toy shelfwarms and they slash prices). Up to you - but if you'd rather not take the risk then I'd advise preordering a TakTOM version. The TakTOM MPs are overpriced (IMHO) and not worth paying full RRP for, so preordering gives you the advantage of getting them at below RRP. :)

[DELTAprime]

If you asked a few days ago I would have pointed you to HLJ to get them. They reopened orders on Saturday for them at around AU$50, sold out now. Best bet is probably RK now at around AU$66.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Get them now while they're at a reasonable price.

Yeah I live in a constant state of uncertainty about MP Red Alert. On the one hand I didn't think after getting MP Sideswipe that the figure was worth the price I was paying so didn't get Red. But on the other hand I wanted him and now if I want to get him I'd have to pay at least $30 more than I paid for Sideswipe. So if you want them, grab'em because they will be more expensive later on

[MayzaPrime]

Yeah I live in a constant state of uncertainty about MP Red Alert. On the one hand I didn't think after getting MP Sideswipe that the figure was worth the price I was paying so didn't get Red. But on the other hand I wanted him and now if I want to get him I'd have to pay at least $30 more than I paid for Sideswipe. So if you want them, grab'em because they will be more expensive later on

Thats Transformer collecting for you :p

[Sinnertwin]

Yeah I live in a constant state of uncertainty about MP Red Alert. On the one hand I didn't think after getting MP Sideswipe that the figure was worth the price I was paying so didn't get Red. But on the other hand I wanted him and now if I want to get him I'd have to pay at least $30 more than I paid for Sideswipe. So if you want them, grab'em because they will be more expensive later on

I can relate with what you've said about Red. I wish that i'd picked up an MISB Nucleon Quest Convoy when i had the opportunity to do so at a good price.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

AFAIK it mostly comes down to licensing issues.

Does anyone know what the copyright/IP deal is with Datsun, especially re. Hasbro?
I seem to recall that a large part of the hassle with getting a Hasbro - and Takara before that - Countach mold is because Lamborghini was/is pretty picky with their licensing, but I don't know how Datsun (or whoever their parent company is) is on said issue. IIRC TakTom managed to secure a domestic release after giving Lamborghini a certain amount of reassurance on the shade of red used for Lambor, but I don't know about Datsun and their stance on licensing outside of Japan.

[DELTAprime]

AFAIK it mostly comes down to licensing issues.

Does anyone know what the copyright/IP deal is with Datsun, especially re. Hasbro?
I seem to recall that a large part of the hassle with getting a Hasbro - and Takara before that - Countach mold is because Lamborghini was/is pretty picky with their licensing, but I don't know how Datsun (or whoever their parent company is) is on said issue. IIRC TakTom managed to secure a domestic release after giving Lamborghini a certain amount of reassurance on the shade of red used for Lambor, but I don't know about Datsun and their stance on licensing outside of Japan.

We don't know what the state of the Nissan/Datsun license is on the MP-17, ect. But when the Alternity line first came out Hasbro said the Nissan license was Takara only.

[kaiden]

AFAIK it mostly comes down to licensing issues.

Does anyone know what the copyright/IP deal is with Datsun, especially re. Hasbro?
I seem to recall that a large part of the hassle with getting a Hasbro - and Takara before that - Countach mold is because Lamborghini was/is pretty picky with their licensing, but I don't know how Datsun (or whoever their parent company is) is on said issue. IIRC TakTom managed to secure a domestic release after giving Lamborghini a certain amount of reassurance on the shade of red used for Lambor, but I don't know about Datsun and their stance on licensing outside of Japan.

Datsun is owned by Nissan. As for licensing outside of Japan, I probably wouldn't want to deal with Hasbro unless they paid a lot of money

[Cat]

After the huge success the car companies saw thanks to the movies, it wouldn't be worth it for Hasbro to pay the license fees to Nissan, Lambo, (and possibly but extremely unlikely to the rally team from the Smokescreen deco. Still, everything ends up in a lawsuit these days, so who knows what one might try) for a limited run exlcusive line like TRU, I'd imagine.

You'd think they'd have to repackage the line as a mass-release proper line to make that even worth considering.

Maybe that'll happen and they're stockpiling licensed mode ones, almost like an Alternators 2.0.

Kinda seems unlikely, though.

I think that they chose to release Acid Storm says a lot though.

I'd play it safe and get the TT releases. The prices wouldn't be that different anyway, really. And worst case scenario, Hasbro would continue their tendency to do the opposite deco to TT - toy accurate vs cartoon accurate. So it could be a win/win.

They're also probably going to be an easy seller in the future if it comes to that anyway, so you shouldn't have any trouble unloading unwanted MP's.

Plus there's the chance for the coins. And they're just awesome.

[GoktimusPrime]

For the benefit of anyone who may not be aware, the coins only come with the Sinophone-market Asian exclusive versions. The Japanese ones don't come w/ the coins (not that I personally care for them :o)

[lancalot]

But now with hasbro releasing and numbering their masterpiece line we might holpfully see a release of the cars or reissue of the older mp line like grimlock!! because from soundwave MP02 sales figures they be crazy not too ...

[kaiden]

But now with hasbro releasing and numbering their masterpiece line we might holpfully see a release of the cars or reissue of the older mp line like grimlock!! because from soundwave MP02 sales figures they be crazy not too ...

that's the thing, they are crazy.

they chose to release mp-11 mold as Thundercracker and Acid Storm instead of Starscream coronation.

they chose not to release TFPrime Breakdown even though he's a very prominant character to the series.

they're not releasing MP Sideswipe or Red Alert and most likely not the Datsuns either.

[GoktimusPrime]

I could spend a whole day talking about the questionable decisions Hasbro makes. :rolleyes:

[Sinnertwin]

Having previously released a Starscream and Skywarp figure, i can understand why Hasbro has chosen to release TC & AS. Ahh, but what about the MP OP's Hasbro has released over the years, you may ask. Well, that's exactly it. He is Optimus Prime and both Hasbro & TT will release and reissue OP well into the future

[griffin]

TFPrime Voyager Breakdown was the heaviest Voyager by far, so that may have been a factor (not just the extra plastic, but also could add to the cost of transportation). For toys that only cost a couple dollars to manufacture, an extra 10% of plastic and weight could have significant impact on the Hasbro profit margin (TakaraTomy seem to have more flexible price-points, and higher prices, so can charge more if they want and get away with it).

[Sinnertwin]

RK MP Prowl preorder


Preorder.
Available on 28th September 2013.

5800yen/ US $59.90 each

All Preorders placed on or before 15th September 2013 will be gurantteed the Coin and Amazon Exclusive Missile Launcher.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us&CatID=

and Bluestreak
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP19&lang=us&CatID=

[Hursticon]

So Prowl is set for the end of this month (September), Bluestreak at the end of October and Smokescreen in December? :o
Do I have this right?, because my HLJ preorders are still stating that the 1st two are due on August 31st... :rolleyes::confused:

[Wheelie]

RK MP Prowl preorder



http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP17&lang=us&CatID=

and Bluestreak
http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TFTRMP19&lang=us&CatID=

Does anybody know what shipping is like?

[Hursticon]

Does anybody know what shipping is like?

Checkout the RobotKingdom feedback thread (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=1567), it should have your answer. ;):cool:

[GoktimusPrime]

So Prowl is set for the end of this month (September), Bluestreak at the end of October and Smokescreen in December? :o
Do I have this right?, because my HLJ preorders are still stating that the 1st two are due on August 31st... :rolleyes::confused:
I've preordered mine through Amazon JP and they have the release dates as:
Prowl = 28/9
Bluestreak = 26/10
Smokescreen = 14/12

[Hursticon]

I've preordered mine through Amazon JP and they have the release dates as:
Prowl = 28/9
Bluestreak = 26/10
Smokescreen = 14/12

You're a champion Gok! :D
I reckon this'd likely reflect HLJ's situation too; excellent, now I've a better idea of what money needs to be in my account & when - Cheers mate. ;):cool:

[Sinnertwin]

So Prowl is set for the end of this month (September), Bluestreak at the end of October and Smokescreen in December? :o
Do I have this right?, because my HLJ preorders are still stating that the 1st two are due on August 31st... :rolleyes::confused:

That's right. BBTS also has them listed as 30/09, ??/10 & ??/12. They've just listed months for Bluestreak & SS.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-prowl-and-bluestreak-release-delay-177331/


Does anybody know what shipping is like?

and prices for these MP's
1 Unit $21US
2 Units $33US &
3 Units $45US shipping.

[Hursticon]

That's right. BBTS also has them listed as 30/09, ??/10 & ??/12. They've just listed months for Bluestreak & SS.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-prowl-and-bluestreak-release-delay-177331/

Great! - Thanks mate :), if all the big guys are posting such dates then clearly that is what is likely to be the case for everyone - Some sites are just clearly quicker at updating their listings than others. ;):p

[Wheelie]

and prices for these MP's
1 Unit $21US
2 Units $33US &
3 Units $45US shipping.

Sweet, thanks

[Cat]

As much as I want the toy launcher, there's no difference between one and none.

They're a pair or nothing, damnit!

(Plus I don't think they actually look that good. If Hasbro ever released them, I hope they'd redesign the launchers to match the toys).