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bassbot
1st October 2013, 05:50 PM
As this mega event series begins soon and has its own opening issue and then jumping between MTMTE and RiD I thought it'd be appropriate to have a review and discussion thread all of its own.

Anyone else super excited?

I'm very keen because I thought the Death of Optimus a Prime was a brilliant combination of James and John's writing and hope that their combination here is even more successful over a long arc.


http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/1/transformers-dark-cybertron_tn_1377121252.jpg

i_amtrunks
1st October 2013, 06:15 PM
Not excited. We had nearly two years of RiD doing sweet f.a. Now we have something building out of Shockwave, something more related to the Furman stories than anything more current. I'm glad to be getting a more coherent and tied together universe after the way Costa and McCarthy destroyed all that had come before them, but not sure Barber is up to it, writing a way forward month in, month out. If you want someone to connect the dots in established continuity and make gold out of lead, he is the man you want, but his writing in RiD has left much to be desired.

Roberts on the other hand has been in top form almost the entire run of MtMtE, so that excites me, seeing how the two can combine the stories they have concocted with distance such a big problem.

Personally I would have preferred a crossover with the DJD ( with their mentioning in the preview for RiD, I hope it comes to pass at some point) or even the scavengers, as both of those units have been more interesting and better developed than anything RiD has given us.

Paulbot
2nd October 2013, 01:21 PM
I'm hoping that the quality of RID is raised and MTMTE isn't lowered too far. The fact they are cowriting each issue is promising and makes me more interested in the RID issues than I've been in a long time. I'm guessing the RID internal narration will disappear?

I'm not too keen on the idea that the Lost Light is suddenly home again. The worse thing about any crossovers is when a creative team is doing good work and then has to shoehorn or abruptly change their book's direction to tie in to the latest crossover or line direction (this has happened far too much in the big two comic companies lately).

So the ongoing story of this crew of Autobots on a voyage(r) lost in space is now over and they are going be home again? It could open opportunities to mix up the MTMTE crew up a bit but it does break the momentum. I'm also kind of hoping that, despite the cover above, Rodimus and his crew are involved in the story without actually returning to Cybertron.

Sharky
2nd October 2013, 01:27 PM
With the latest issue of MTMTE and hot rods "confession" about overlord and the sort make me curious about the whole banishment of drift and everything, was this a special mission cover up in disguise

And the fact that everyone on cybertron thinks the crew is dead you can't glance over the homecoming in a few issues.

And what of that transmission that was sent wayyyy back when the lost light jumped. When is that sent?.

While I am all for "crossovers" I don't think transformers really needs one and it feels like an attempt to inject some life into RID

MTMTE certainly doesn't really benefit out of this.

i_amtrunks
2nd October 2013, 05:50 PM
Surely the Lost Light cannot return to Cybertron, they are a long way out and it would not make sense for their story to do so, they need to be out in space.

But that makes me wonder how they can crossover, unless via flashback, or planet hopping, seeing other ores etc?

bassbot
3rd October 2013, 06:29 PM
Yeah, I think RiD often comes out as a poorer cousin as MTMTE is filled to the bring with character, dialogue, pretty much consistently amazing art and it culture and themes. I've enjoyed the thematic development of RiD but the execution and pacing hasn't been as consistent in my opinion.

bassbot
3rd October 2013, 06:29 PM
Surely the Lost Light cannot return to Cybertron, they are a long way out and it would not make sense for their story to do so, they need to be out in space.

But that makes me wonder how they can crossover, unless via flashback, or planet hopping, seeing other ores etc?

There will be some crossover, but the solicitations have been clear that the Lost Light ISNT back on Cybertron

i_amtrunks
3rd October 2013, 09:17 PM
So what are the odds that come the end of Dark Cybertron we have a fully functioning Nightbeat back?

Secondary market open on if there will be a toy made for Nightbeat and will it be a repaint of the comic Bumblebee toy?

bassbot
4th October 2013, 09:09 AM
I don't know if I want the old friend Prime meets in the DU to be Kup or Nightbeat - but either would rock

Paulbot
5th October 2013, 09:07 AM
Interesting read here with an interview with the authors, maybe some minor plot spoilers but basically confirming the books' characters are still separate:
http://www.newsarama.com/19117-transformers-dark-cybertron-architects-unlike-any-event-to-hit-franchise.html

The answer to why Dreadwing is at least partly honest, but really "Hasbro said so" is all they need to say.

Spitcurlboy
6th October 2013, 10:55 PM
plus we find out what Starscreams new body will be

i_amtrunks
21st November 2013, 10:22 PM
So downloaded the deluxe version of Dark Cybertron 1.

It's a great look behind the scenes of how the comic was made. The artists really do turn snippets into masterpieces. Line art and sketches of every page with notes from the creative team.

Well worth the $8.50 price if you like that kind of thing.

Also seems there are a few more hints about where the story may be heading, but nothing concrete or spoilerific.

bassbot
21st November 2013, 11:27 PM
Yeah I'm hoping phantom zone has held a copy of the deluxe version for me cause it sounds sweet!

i_amtrunks
22nd November 2013, 07:02 AM
Yeah I'm hoping phantom zone has held a copy of the deluxe version for me cause it sounds sweet!

I think they only ordered copies for those with standing orders as they didn't have any to sell to the general public this week, that's why I went for the digital copy.

BigTransformerTrev
24th November 2013, 06:17 PM
I liked this comic up until the last page. The recaps of the other story lines was good, Orion ending up on the lost light was good, zombie-titan - great!

Then, sigh, it just turns out that Shockwave worships/works for Nova Prime :(. I really would have liked Shockwave to be playing his own game, not simply swapping allegiance to from one insane warlord to another. And the idea that he has been working for Nova Prime and Galvatron for the last few million years is silly - as far as he knew they were dead! I really wanted to see Shockwave out for Shockwave because it was the logical course for him to pursue.

That said, not a bad comic and looking forward to RID & MTMTE 23 :)

Paulbot
24th November 2013, 08:51 PM
I don't think Shockwave is working for Nova Prime.

I think that he's pretending to as part of his own larger plans. He's sees how to use Nova Prime to his own advantage: the battle between Nova and the Autobots and Decepticons could take out a lot of his strongest opposition without having to worry about defeating Nova and Galvatron by himself.

Then, when that's all done, Shockwave will be greatly unopposed and either way the winning side will be at a weak point, leaving it easier for him to defeat them.

Sharky
24th November 2013, 08:53 PM
Then, when that's all done, Shockwave will be greatly unopposed.

Until Deaths head pops up and squishes his brain module like a pimple....

well one can wish

i must say i am neither loving or hating it but it is a step backwards from MTMTE but a step Forward from RID.

Curiuos..

bassbot
24th November 2013, 09:35 PM
Ys had the deluxe edition for me and it is beautiful. Can't beat that new comic smell.

I enjoyed MTMTE 23, and continue to enjoy the narrative selection of artists. We haven't gotten any of the deeper motivation of Shockwave or the DU creeps, so I'm hoping we get that soon.

The prophecy was quite excellent, I want to go back and check if any other parts may refer to other bots or cons alongside Starscream.