What do you pay for New JP MPs?

[GoktimusPrime]

New Japanese Masterpieces = all TakaraTOMY MPs from 2011's MP-10 onward. This appears to be the way that TakaraTOMY are classifying their MPs too, with the new ones being currently listed on the official web page (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/masterpiece/), and all the previous MPs listed on the Past Masterpiece Archive (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/products/TF/products/masterpiece.html) page.

The options for the poll are:
+ Full RRP; see below for a complete list.
+ Above RRP, e.g. appreciated aftermarket prices
+ Below RRP, e.g. pre order discount, sales prices
+ Skip and hope for cheaper Hasbro release
+ Don't collect the new Masterpieces

We are only looking at the cost of the toy, please do not factor in cost of postage/shipping.

New MP RRPs; as of Oct 2013
* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251
* MP-10B Black Convoy = 13440JPY / AU$146
* MP-11 Starscream = 13000JPY / AU$141
* MP-12 Lambor = 6000JPY / AU$65
* MP-13 Soundwave (w/ Condor) = 16000JPY / AU$174
* MP-14 Alert = 6000JPY / AU$65
* MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar = 4410JPY / AU$48
* MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw = 4410JPY / AU$48
* MP-17 Prowl = 6090JPY / AU$66

[drifand]

* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251
* MP-10B Black Convoy = 13440JPY / AU$146

I first point out the issue here. :)

Go on debate the same mould in different colours cost so much more.

By the way, from poll I am missing collect the pieces you only like.

[GoktimusPrime]

* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251
* MP-10B Black Convoy = 13440JPY / AU$146

I first point out the issue here. :)

Go on debate the same mould in different colours cost so much more.
Black Convoy is only the cab/robot - no trailer or Roller (or Spike I think). Hence the price difference.


By the way, from poll I am missing collect the pieces you only like.
That's fine - but out of the pieces that you have collected (doesn't have to be all of them), have you paid RRP, above RRP, below RRP etc.?

I should also say, on average. e.g. I paid full RRP for MP Sunstorm (same RRP as MP11) and I skipped MP10 in favour of the Hasbro version, but I've paid below RRP for all my other New MPs, so on average I've paid below RRP and voted on the poll accordingly. Hmm, in hindsight I probably should've allowed for multiple options in cases where people's spending habits may be evenly divided 50:50... oops. Flip a coin? :p

[kurdt_the_goat]

The official RRP thread... I guess it was just a matter if time!

[GoktimusPrime]

The official RRP thread... I guess it was just a matter if time!
I'm deliberately avoiding taking any sides with prices on this thread and have tried to be impartial. I don't want anyone (myself included) using this thread to cast any judgements on what prices people pay. The poll is completely anonymous, nobody's gonna know who's paying what for their MPs unless they want to voluntarily disclose themselves by posting about it.

And even where it says "above RRP," I haven't included (if so, how much?) <--- nobody's going to know how much above RRP anyone's paid for an MP unless they want to disclose it. And if they do, I'm not going to comment about it (you all know what my reaction would be anyway :p), and I don't want anyone else to either. Allow me to make this clear; this thread is NOT to be used to either criticise nor laud prices that people pay for MPs. The primary purpose of the thread is to service the POLL which simply seeks to find out what proportion of this community are paying what kind of prices for the New MPs.

Thank you.

[kurdt_the_goat]

I can tell u what people are paying already though - as little as they have to and as much as they're willing to!

[GoktimusPrime]

I can tell u what people are paying already though - as little as they have to and as much as they're willing to!

The primary purpose of the thread is to service the POLL which simply seeks to find out what
PROPORTION of this community are paying what kind of prices for the New MPs.
If you're quite done having your fun now, let's get back to the actual intended purpose of this thread. Thanks again.

[drifand]

slightly above rrp

reasons:

1. Is takara tomy, there isn't exactly anyone that brings in and sell at rrp to begin

2. I always take my time considering to buy and collect not just blindly "Oh wow Optimus in chrome colour! must have it"

3. The character, I can go "meh" on prowl but I can go "I want" on Jazz. Takara isn't stupid, they choose the cars with multiple same car design characters before going bumble bee and wheeljack.

Overall, is very subjective, atm you point at Ultra Magus and the price just tells me to think. When in such situation it does affect my purchase as all pre-orders are already Sold out.

Mp-soundwave is one example that I can skip the Takara version and go for Hasbro.

[drifand]

If you're quite done having your fun now, let's get back to the actual intended purpose of this thread. Thanks again.

I don't think there was anything wrong with his statement.

Pretty much it is what it is.

For you, you can refuse to pay anything above RRP while for some of us do not entirely go by this method as mentioned sometimes it takes a while for someone to change from "meh..." hmmm... "okay, I think I buy it"

I am pretty Happy with Hasbro Metroplex vs Takara's version and this is where price differences does tell a story.

The Masterpiece is however sad to say we are more swayed towards Takara's version because at the moment there isn't a choice for the cars.

Come back and revisit this question again when Hasbro makes a different decision and you see answers changing.

[GoktimusPrime]

slightly above rrp
If this is the average trend of what you've paid for New MPs, then you can vote "Above RRP." :) How slightly are you talking about though? For the purposes of this thread/poll, if you've paid $5 or less above RRP, then we can still count that as "Full RRP," but anything more then we'll consider that as "Above RRP."


reasons:

1. Is takara tomy, there isn't exactly anyone that brings in and sell at rrp to begin
There are a few. But they would be very expensive because Australian importing laws slap on loads of taxes, duties and levies that makes effectively doubles the Japanese RRPs (it's not the retailer's fault).

A lot of online retailers sell Japanese TFs at RRP (or less if you preorder), e.g. Amiami, HLJ et al.


2. I always take my time considering to buy and collect not just blindly "Oh wow Optimus in chrome colour! must have it"
Heh, that's fair enough. It's always good if you can see in hand reviews, or best of all if you can see someone else's toy in hand for yourself. I saw someone else's MP10 at a fan meet and decided that it wasn't worth buying.


3. The character, I can go "meh" on prowl but I can go "I want" on Jazz. Takara isn't stupid, they choose the cars with multiple same car design characters before going bumble bee and wheeljack.
Yep, same reason why I didn't want Starscream or Thundercracker, but I wanted Sunstorm and Acid Storm (and I paid full RRP for them both). :)


Overall, is very subjective, atm you point at Ultra Magus and the price just tells me to think. When in such situation it does affect my purchase as all pre-orders are already Sold out.
Definitely. As I said, for the purposes of this poll just have an overall look at your spending pattern for the new JP MPs and vote according to what your average spending pattern has been like.

For me it's been:
MP10 <--- skipped (got Hasbro's)
MP11 <--- skipped
MP Sunstorm <--- Full RRP
MP-12 <--- below RRP
MP-13 <--- below RRP
MP-14 <--- skipped
MP-15 <--- below RRP
MP-16 <--- below RRP
MP-17 <--- below RRP
Thus:
56% of my New MPs were purchased below RRP
33% skipped
11% at Full RRP
So I voted "Below RRP" since that represents how I paid for most of my MPs. I've also already prepaid for MP Bluestreak and Smokescreen at below RRP too. :)


For you, you can refuse to pay anything above RRP while for some of us do not entirely go by this method as mentioned sometimes it takes a while for someone to change from "meh..." hmmm... "okay, I think I buy it"
I NEVER said anything about my personal policy on this thread. I've intentionally avoided doing so. If people are willing to pay below RRP, at RRP, or above RRP for MPs (or whatever), then that's up to them. I am NOT making ANY subjective comments about such issues whatsoever on this thread.

This thread is NOT intended for ANYONE to debate how much people are paying for toys. Please stop trying to drag me into an argument which I am very deliberately attempting to AVOID. Everyone knows what my opinion about pricing is; I did NOT create this thread as a personal soapbox to harp on about it again. If you're REALLY interested in having that discussion with me, then shoot me a PM.

I'll say this again, the PURPOSE of this thread is to see what proportion of members are paying - on average - for new Japanese MPs. That is all. Please limit the scope of your discussions to the purpose of this thread rather than derail it toward more subjective or judgemental discussions/debates which this thread is most intentionally attempting to avoid.

Thank you once more for your understanding and cooperation.

[drifand]

For the current price of Ultra Magnus does make me question about the actual toy quality.

Here's my take on things:

I collect a lot of robots. Similar stuff I can compare to a Takara mp release:

Gundam Metal build > Gundam Destiny $RRP 180 > don't you even think about HLJ, they released 6 pieces only and so is the rest and I hardly could order it at RRP, ended up $210 delivered. Quality wise? I would say beats an mp hands down.

Macross Frontier chogokin: RRP $150 now $250 >$500 and I am thinking most people are scalpers causing this serious issue. So I ended up admiring and not buying most of it. For its size and quality? Good if you pay RRP, bad if you pay at current. And even then those who know, there is renewal and 1st version which made you went on an expensive ride if you collected since day one.

Now looking back at mp Sideswipe and if you ask me to pay $90 now for it, I say go get stuffed. Why? because soundwave is so much bigger and only at $130 shipped or so.

This makes me questioned about Ultra Magnus, if it reaches $300 mark, I may give it a pass. Have to see it to see whether this is worth the money, I cannot just click the "pre-order" button for this guy. I could for Soundwave, and that's the difference here.

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't collect other toylines, so I'm not qualified to comment on those.

Do we know what the official RRP for Ultra Magnus will be yet? I'm personally waiting for Amazon JP to list it, as they'll also list the RRP as set by TakaraTOMY. I'll see what Amazon JP's preorder price is like... still undecided.

Since there's no licensing issues with Ultra Magnus, there's no reason why Hasbro can't release this toy. And if so, there's a good chance that even local AU RRP will be even cheaper than preorder Japanese prices anyway. :) I'd like to wait for a local Hasbro release... but my impatience might get the better of me. :p

[drifand]

I don't collect other toylines, so I'm not qualified to comment on those.

Do we know what the official RRP for Ultra Magnus will be yet? I'm personally waiting for Amazon JP to list it, as they'll also list the RRP as set by TakaraTOMY. I'll see what Amazon JP's preorder price is like... still undecided.

Since there's no licensing issues with Ultra Magnus, there's no reason why Hasbro can't release this toy. And if so, there's a good chance that even local AU RRP will be even cheaper than preorder Japanese prices anyway. :) I'd like to wait for a local Hasbro release... but my impatience might get the better of me. :p

Hence, why I put on my brakes on the "pre-order" button. There is no reason why this should be priced so high if I am going to pre-judge the current quality of the mp series it would not be any far more metal otherwise.

Are we allowed to order from Amazon jp and do they ship here or you have your own contacts that does it?

[GoktimusPrime]

Replied here (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=377939#post377939) :)

[drifand]

Replied here (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=377939#post377939) :)

Yeah guessed it and thus won't apply to most of us here. Options are again limited.

[Trent]

My purchases tend to be all over the place so I voted for Full RRP. Some I get at, some I get below. And when I buy from BBTS, then I pay above. It all comes down to availability when I decide I want it. I ended up paying above for Sideswipe and Red Alert because at first I didn't want them. So by the time I bought, BBTS was one of the last places to have them in stock so I paid above RRP. However I managed to secure Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen for below RRP. MP-11 I got for slightly below, while MP-08 for above.

Sometimes I wait for Hasbro, like with MP-10 and MP-13, because I didn't think they were worth the RRP (now I'm starting to sound like Gok :p:))

I think I'm to a stage now that with the direction that the MP line is moving in, I'll just preorder each item and get the discount. I'm a huge fan of the new releases. The figures are great, and while I may lose out on a Hasbro release, TT usually have the better colour scheme anyway.

[drifand]

However, it is also a challenge nowadays even to buy at RRP. Prowl was off Pre-order like in 30 minutes on HLJ. You are basically battling with the bunch of EvilBay scalpers who basically chop up everything.

The other thing is I tend to feel Takara doesn't mind reissuing stuff and thus why I can be okay to miss it.

There isn't anything wrong with Gok's method, it is by far the best bang for buck if you have budget for all of them. You can pre-order HLJ and cancel it when you feel you don't need it.

[Kapryiath]

the options in this poll are a fairly inaccurate representation of prices paid, as you'd have to assume that each voter paid the same amount for each toy, for example i got red alert fairly cheaply , but i had to pay scalper prices for soundwave and sideswipe, and full retail for the cassetes and then i havn't bought some of them so which option do i vote for? :S

[drifand]

the options in this poll are a fairly inaccurate representation of prices paid, as you'd have to assume that each voter paid the same amount for each toy, for example i got red alert fairly cheaply , but i had to pay scalper prices for soundwave and sideswipe, and full retail for the cassetes and then i havn't bought some of them so which option do i vote for? :S

I am in same situation as you, I probably am "I want to pay RRP' but I have to end up scalper's prices for some.

The situation WILL be different, if K-mart, Target and every other Australian joint brings it in and sells at RRP, I wouldn't need to go online at all.

[DELTAprime]

* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251, Above cause I got it from BBTS. (stupid me)
* MP-10B Black Convoy = 13440JPY / AU$146, Don't have but am thinking about getting one cheap.
* MP-11 Starscream = 13000JPY / AU$141, about what I paid which included "free" UPS delivery.
* MP-12 Lambor = 6000JPY / AU$65, slightly under retail.
* MP-13 Soundwave (w/ Condor) = 16000JPY / AU$174, slightly under retail.
* MP-14 Alert = 6000JPY / AU$65, slightly under retail.
* MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar = 4410JPY / AU$48, slightly under retail.
* MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw = 4410JPY / AU$48, slightly under retail.
* MP-17 Prowl = 6090JPY / AU$66, well under retail now that I'm using HLJ.

I know that Gok thinks MP's are not worth paying retail for, I disagree and think they are worth it. But it would have been nice if Takara didn't put up their prices a couple of years ago.

EDIT: BTW, what was the retail price of Sunstorm? I'm thinking about getting him also.

[Jetfire in the sky]

The official RRP thread... I guess it was just a matter if time!

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

[Jetfire in the sky]

I can't clearly answer the poll either, I have paid all over the place for MP's. Some well below RRP some above and some on it. It depends on the item and how much I want it. I still don't have Grimlock but have seen him go on the secondary market from $250 (which I will pay) and $450 which I might pay in 25 years time :p I missed the boat on him being released and I will have to pay a lot more to get him and I want it pretty bad. I picked up MP10 the day it arrived at TRU and it was $150, and once I bought 5 MP's in a lot and they were all well under RRP :)

[drifand]

* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251, Above cause I got it from BBTS. (stupid me)


I know that Gok thinks MP's are not worth paying retail for, I disagree and think they are worth it. But it would have been nice if Takara didn't put up their prices a couple of years ago.



It depends, MP01 was full of metal, if anything its worth to pay a bit more.
MP10 is like smaller and cost just as expensive, so is like a "please explain the justification?"

Like said, if you bought the new cars at about $60 each, that's a fair deal. anything above is like I have to consider if that character is worth it.

Would you be agreeing the Takara cassettes are overpriced? After seeing Hasbro's, I think they are.

[willocrew]

MP10 --> Full RRP
MP11--> Skipped it but may pick up the Asia re-issue if I can get it.
MP12--> Above RRP.
MP13 --> Waiting for Hasbro in Oz.
MP14 --> Skipped it. Unlikely that I will pick one up at the current prices.
MP15 & 16 --> Waiting for Hasbro.
MP17 --> Below RRP.
MP18 & 19 --> Pre-ordered with HLJ.

It's a but of a mixed bag.

[DELTAprime]

Would you be agreeing the Takara cassettes are overpriced? After seeing Hasbro's, I think they are.

I don't think the Takara cassettes are over priced. Sure they might not have much plastic in them but Takara did have to spend money on engineering them, which Hasbro did not have to do. I think it's easy for people to forget that everything you buy had to be designed by someone and don't forget the tooling, packaging, freight and the retailers cut among other things.

[GoktimusPrime]

the options in this poll are a fairly inaccurate representation of prices paid, as you'd have to assume that each voter paid the same amount for each toy, for example i got red alert fairly cheaply , but i had to pay scalper prices for soundwave and sideswipe, and full retail for the cassetes and then i havn't bought some of them so which option do i vote for? :S
As I said, in hindsight I'd allow for multiple option voting... but I didn't, so the best thing to do is to try and calculate how you paid for most of your new MPs and go with that, i.e. what the biggest proportion was. 56% of my new MPs were purchased below RRP, so I voted for that. If you're not entirely sure how to work it out, feel free to post a list of what you paid for which figure -- or if you'd rather not publicly reveal that, shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help sort it out for you. :)

* MP-10 Convoy = 23100JPY / AU$251, Above cause I got it from BBTS. (stupid me)
* MP-10B Black Convoy = 13440JPY / AU$146, Don't have but am thinking about getting one cheap.
* MP-11 Starscream = 13000JPY / AU$141, about what I paid which included "free" UPS delivery.
* MP-12 Lambor = 6000JPY / AU$65, slightly under retail.
* MP-13 Soundwave (w/ Condor) = 16000JPY / AU$174, slightly under retail.
* MP-14 Alert = 6000JPY / AU$65, slightly under retail.
* MP-15 Rumble & Jaguar = 4410JPY / AU$48, slightly under retail.
* MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw = 4410JPY / AU$48, slightly under retail.
* MP-17 Prowl = 6090JPY / AU$66, well under retail now that I'm using HLJ.
Just to use this as another example of how to vote, if we look at DELTAprime's patterns we can see:
Full RRP = 11%
Above RRP = 11%
Below RRP = 67% <---this represents the majority proportion of how he has bought his new MPs and should thus vote accordingly :)
Skipped = 11%


EDIT: BTW, what was the retail price of Sunstorm? I'm thinking about getting him also.
Same as MP11 Starscream, so 13000JPY / AU$141. This toy shelfwarmed and prices were massively reduced later (to nearly half price IIRC), so I was kicking myself for preordering like a sucker while people who waited ended up getting them much cheaper on clearance sales.


I can't clearly answer the poll either, I have paid all over the place for MP's. Some well below RRP some above and some on it. It depends on the item and how much I want it. I still don't have Grimlock but have seen him go on the secondary market from $250 (which I will pay) and $450 which I might pay in 25 years time :p I missed the boat on him being released and I will have to pay a lot more to get him and I want it pretty bad. I picked up MP10 the day it arrived at TRU and it was $150, and once I bought 5 MP's in a lot and they were all well under RRP :)
Try and see if you can work out what the majority were purchased at. Grimlock is part of the "Old" MPs btw so doesn't count for the purposes of this poll/thread. We're only looking at the "new" MPs which is everything from MP10 onwards.


It depends, MP01 was full of metal, if anything its worth to pay a bit more.
MP10 is like smaller and cost just as expensive, so is like a "please explain the justification?"
Size and metal aside, MP-1 is also a significantly much more complex toy in terms of engineering/design.


MP10 --> Full RRP
MP11--> Skipped it but may pick up the Asia re-issue if I can get it.
MP12--> Above RRP.
MP13 --> Waiting for Hasbro in Oz.
MP14 --> Skipped it. Unlikely that I will pick one up at the current prices.
MP15 & 16 --> Waiting for Hasbro.
MP17 --> Below RRP.
MP18 & 19 --> Pre-ordered with HLJ.

It's a but of a mixed bag.
So in you're case we can see:
Full RRP = 10%
Above RRP = 10%
Below RRP = 30%
Skipped = 50% <---vote here :)

In hindsight I probably should've omitted "and wait for Hasbro release" with the "Skipped" option because evidently many of us skip the TakTOM MPs without necessarily waiting for a Hasbro release, and even if one comes out, we may still skip that too. :o I know that when I skipped MP10, I had no clue that Hasbro would release their own version later on and that it would be priced well enough that I would want to buy it. I skipped it with the intention of just never owning that toy at the time. I did the complete opposite with Alert - skipped him hoping for a Hasbro release later, but that seems highly unlikely so odds are I'll never own that toy (which doesn't devastate me much as you all know what I think of that mould ;)). If I can find MP Alert at RRP or less (most unlikely) or in the also unlikely event that Hasbro manages to secure the licence and releases a local version, I'll get it. But most likely I'll just live without it. :o

So yeah, feel free to disregard the "and wait for Hasbro release" and just focus on the word "Skipped". If you skipped most of the TakTOM New MPs but have collected some others, then please vote on that poll option. Thanks.

[Sinnertwin]

RRP.
Give ot take, it's about a 60 RRP / 40 Early discount Pre Order split.

[Kazza]

For me to consider purchase its rrp + postage. I always try to get under which is usually the case, and at times I'm over slightly maybe $10-30 due to postage.

[Nevac]

It depends, MP01 was full of metal, if anything its worth to pay a bit more.
MP10 is like smaller and cost just as expensive, so is like a "please explain the justification?"


When you're comparing MP10 with MP1 remember MP10 comes with a trailer, roller and Spike. MP10 trailer MUCH better then the trailer that came with MP4 does anyone remember how much MP4 was? I think I got mine for $200 at Target and we still didn't get Roller with MP4. Also I don't understand why so many people have a hardon for diecast in figures. Sure MP1 was cool because he was loaded with diecast but after 10years all the paint on mine is all chipped all over him making him look really battle damaged. And the ONLY Binaltech I have (Meister) has peeling paint all over him as well. Not to mention my Soundwave's feet are all scratched up as from just standing on my desk.

[Jetfire in the sky]

I remember when BT's came out the early ones had paint issues, all my BT's paint is still on, however, they are on display only and get treated very gently when cleaned.

[GoktimusPrime]

When you're comparing MP10 with MP1 remember MP10 comes with a trailer, roller and Spike. MP10 trailer MUCH better then the trailer that came with MP4 does anyone remember how much MP4 was? I think I got mine for $200 at Target and we still didn't get Roller with MP4. Also I don't understand why so many people have a hardon for diecast in figures. Sure MP1 was cool because he was loaded with diecast but after 10years all the paint on mine is all chipped all over him making him look really battle damaged. And the ONLY Binaltech I have (Meister) has peeling paint all over him as well. Not to mention my Soundwave's feet are all scratched up as from just standing on my desk.
It's not just die-cast, MP01 is a significantly more detailed and complex toy. Being originally designed to be just a cab/robot, they really poured a lot of love into that toy. MP10 is a notably simpler figure by comparison, but it's still an excellent toy, and as you rightfully pointed out, it does have a great trailer and Roller which MP01 never had and MP04 didn't have Roller. I find both MP01 and MP10 to be great toys in their own rights, each bringing different things to the table. MP01 is a superior robot, but MP10 is better as an 'overall package.' :)


I remember when BT's came out the early ones had paint issues, all my BT's paint is still on, however, they are on display only and get treated very gently when cleaned.
I only ever had chipping w/ BT1 Smokescreen, nothing much after that. I once accidentally dropped BT Dead End on the footpath while walking down a busy city street and there were no chips. :o

IMO die-cast enhances the look of vehicle modes. The great thing I love about BTs is how they look like miniature replica cars, something that I felt was lost with Alternators; partially due to the cheaper looking plastics that Hasbro chose (unlike say the plastic quality used on Alternity). So plastic itself can still look close to authentic if done right - but it still doesn't look or feel as good as die-cast (and chrome!) IMO. :)

[nexusnixx]

Hmmmm a thread about how low u got your stuff for? Got to consider postage, forex, quality of issue, location of postage, quantity of release, etc

[GoktimusPrime]

Hmmmm a thread about how low u got your stuff for? Got to consider postage, forex, quality of issue, location of postage, quantity of release, etc
Please see post #1:

We are only looking at the cost of the toy, please do not factor in cost of postage/shipping.
I paid $3 for postage for my MP Prowl because it was shipped in a box w/ other toys via slow-slow SAL. Someone else who ships it individually via an express service would pay a lot more. It doesn't make the MP toy itself any more expensive, we both may have paid about the same price for the toy itself, but I'm too cheap to pay for faster shipping whereas the other person isn't. :) So we're just looking at the raw cost of the toy. ;)

[drifand]

When you're comparing MP10 with MP1 remember MP10 comes with a trailer, roller and Spike. MP10 trailer MUCH better then the trailer that came with MP4 does anyone remember how much MP4 was? I think I got mine for $200 at Target and we still didn't get Roller with MP4. Also I don't understand why so many people have a hardon for diecast in figures. Sure MP1 was cool because he was loaded with diecast but after 10years all the paint on mine is all chipped all over him making him look really battle damaged. And the ONLY Binaltech I have (Meister) has peeling paint all over him as well. Not to mention my Soundwave's feet are all scratched up as from just standing on my desk.

I still don't agree with your comparison, no offence here, mp04 still a bigger toy and was worth at correct pricing. If mp10 is that good, funny why I have not bothered to buy one. MP01 was nominated and won TOY of the year by many Mecha fans who voted, mind you this is an agreement from non transformers fans as well.

Too bad you only have one Binaltech to compare and make a say. I have almost the entire set, and if anything it brought back interest for me to look at Transformers.

One of MY MAIN issue is you can shout about mp10 all you want, but there isn't a Megatron scaled down till date that he can stand beside and fight and that for me was actually a deal breaker.

Note: being said if the NEW car series is at $90 bucks for the Binaltech size 1/24, I buy them ALL RIGHT NOW.

[drifand]

IMO die-cast enhances the look of vehicle modes. The great thing I love about BTs is how they look like miniature replica cars, something that I felt was lost with Alternators; partially due to the cheaper looking plastics that Hasbro chose (unlike say the plastic quality used on Alternity). So plastic itself can still look close to authentic if done right - but it still doesn't look or feel as good as die-cast (and chrome!) IMO. :)

I definitely agree with this. +1
Though at times the plastic ones "could pass" for some of the characters.

[nexusnixx]

Super like! +1


I can tell u what people are paying already though - as little as they have to and as much as they're willing to!

[Nevac]

There is no denying MP1 was a superior toy at the time it came out and I'd be amazed if anyone into Transformers at the time did not buy it. Thing is when MP10 came out most people didn't jump on board because they already had MP1/4 and I include myself in that number too as my interest in Transformers had waned at that point having skipped MP6-9.

But when the Hasbro one came to Toy's R Us on a sale at the time I couldn't pass it up for $112.50 and after playing around with him ever since I've come to like him much better then MP1. Looking back knowing what I know now I probably would be happy to pay more then that for MP10. I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy? But if I never bought the Hasbro MP10 I probably would never have got back into Transformers, well maybe just Soundwave but I wouldn't have bought the cars at all. The new scale was what is really enticing me now and was why I paid an inflated price for Sideswipe because I had the Hasbro Prime that and I didn't think he'd be re-issued.

I mean obviously new fans would buy MP10 now as he's the only one you can buy now new. I think if they both came out back then and both sold at the same price I probably would have bought MP10. As for the MP's I bought they were...

Hasbro 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime (Retail some local store)
MP2 Ultra Magnus (Retail Target)
MP3 Greenscream (Online somewhere forget where)
MP4 Optimus (Online somewhere forget where)
MP5 Megatron (1 from Ebay and 1 from BBTS plugged)

Hasbro MP10 Optimus Prime ($112.50 TRU)
MP11 Starscream ($229.98 Ebay)
MP12 Lambor ($184.45 Ebay Didn't think he'd get re issued at the time)
MP13 Soundwave ($189.99 BBTS)
MP15 Ravage & Rumble ($72.85 BBTS bought 1 for a friend for slightly cheaper shipping)
MP16 Buzzsaw & Frenzy ($86.83 BBTS)
MP17 Prowl ($90 RK)
MP18 Bluestreak ($84.32 RK went with cheaper shipping)

All prices above include shipping if applicable, I do not know how much they cost without shipping as at the time when I started logging all my expenses in excel I included shipping on the entry since that is the total I paid for the toy.

I skipped Red Alert because I missed the boat when they came out initially and I didn't want to pay inflated price for Red Alert especially since he's a pretty minor S2 char.

[Jetfire in the sky]

I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy? )



I would buy both :p But seriosuly if I had to absolutely choose it would be MP 1 due to his size.

[GoktimusPrime]

There is no denying MP1 was a superior toy at the time it came out and I'd be amazed if anyone into Transformers at the time did not buy it.
I have both MP01 and Hasbro's MP10 (and I've seen/handled TakTOM MP10 IRL), and I still find MP01 to be the superior figure between the two. But that's not necessarily a criticism against MP10 per se, because obviously that toy was designed w/ the trailer, Roller & Spike, so the cab/robot was always going to be less flashy than MP01 which was only ever the cab/robot. So without having to divvy the budget up with a trailer or Roller, they could focus everything on the cab/robot.

The reason why I skipped TakTOM's MP10 was partially because I already have MP01, but also because of its price (approx. x2.25 the price of what I paid for MP01). But when Hasbro's MP10 came out here for about $35 more than what I paid for MP01, I decided that this was a great price and I bought it at full AU retail. :) Even better for those who bought it for less. :D


I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy?
Depends... if MP10 was sold at TakaraTOMY's price, I would get MP01. If it were at Hasbro's price, I'd get MP10. :o


All prices above include shipping if applicable, I do not know how much they cost without shipping as at the time when I started logging all my expenses in excel I included shipping on the entry since that is the total I paid for the toy.
Can you calculate what % of what you paid for MP17 was for postage, and then maybe just use that as a guesstimate of what you paid for the rest of your MPs? <shrugs>

[drifand]

Definitely if there was a mp04 and mp10 and then if there is a Magtron mp as well I think anyone's logical would be....

Buy them all. lol

[DELTAprime]

I have both MP01 and Hasbro's MP10 (and I've seen/handled TakTOM MP10 IRL), and I still find MP01 to be the superior figure between the two.

Am I the only person that likes MP-10 more? I like the smaller size as it will actually fit on my normal TF display shelves. I like that it's plastic and therefore the paint doesn't chip easily. Also the trailer is a good improvement over MP-04.

[Megatran]

MP5 Megatron (1 from Ebay and 1 from BBTS plugged)

Did you have any problems with Australian Customs for your MP Megs?

[Nevac]

None and we bought 3x MP Megs at the time for myself and 2 friends guess we just got lucky