Daca Toys Kronos (Skyfire)

[Sinnertwin]

Available for preorder from BBTS for $164.99. Currently scheduled for a January release.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=DCT10002&mode=retail




http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/DCT10002_zps00399603.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/DCT10002_zps00399603.jpg.html)

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/DCT10003_zps084ffe1a.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/DCT10003_zps084ffe1a.jpg.html)

[Hursticon]

*Shudders*

[Lord_Zed]

*Shudders*

Verily.

[Trent]

The guy that is making this is doing his very best to make it as G1 accurate as possible. He is very active over on TFW and is accepting al sorts of constructive criticism. It will be interesting to see how the final product ends up.

[lancalot]

im going to wait to see how the actually figure would look like and the colour of plastic used... Been seen heaps of render images that looks amazing but the actually figure is just ok ....

[The_Damned]

is this not very popular?

[kup]

is this not very popular?

Probably a combination of an unproven 3rd party company and a rather dull 'too geewunn' design.

Prefer the 2006 Classics Jetfire.

[Trent]

Probably a combination of an unproven 3rd party company and a rather dull 'too geewunn' design.

Prefer the 2006 Classics Jetfire.

He's doing 2 versions. Kronos is the G1 cartoon version and Titan is more classics inspired.

Keep in mind that this is intended to fit into the masterpiece line. Not classics. These things are pretty tall. I think around the size of MP-01.

[Lord_Zed]

Well, I'm not on any other TF boards so I can't comment there, but the main problem to me are the proportions and the fact his limbs are to damn square.

He needs more interesting leg and arm shapes, as well as to slightly reduce the size of his crotch so his body does not just look like a big square shape. The basic Skyfire/Jetfire shape is there but it needs a lot of refining.

Given his transformation is likely to be fairly simple, there's no excuse for not refining the robot shape.


http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/0/0f/G1Jetfire_MarvelTFU.jpg/300px-G1Jetfire_MarvelTFU.jpg

[Megatran]

as well as to slightly reduce the size of his crotch

It's rude to stare an another's crotch. :D

[Gofigure]

Been following the thread over at TFW2005 and it's great to see the progress and how it's taking shape :)

He is very open to feedback and is attempting to refine the model thru fan discussion.

I, for one, am very very interested in being able to purchase a transformer I have wanted since I was 8. Jetfire was great and all but was never skyfire :)

[Gofigure]

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/957592-daca-toys-kronos-74.html

Taking shape very nicely with final proto pics. This looks fantastic. In my opinion this will be the quintessential third party "Skyfire"

Scales perfectly with MP to boot!

[maxirod]

Its RM480 from X20 Toys..bit steep but its a huge ass size. The generations one should be alot more affordable.

[Bidoofdude]

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/957592-daca-toys-kronos-74.html

Taking shape very nicely with final proto pics. This looks fantastic. In my opinion this will be the quintessential third party "Skyfire"

Scales perfectly with MP to boot!

Yay, cardboard box fort alt mode! :)

Looks nice, but that's huge. :eek:

[Lord_Zed]

It's certainly come a long way.

[ChlorHex]

Just saw the pics and it is huge!
Need to see it in color to make a decision tho.

[Gofigure]

I preordered at tfsource...2 of them

I have been waiting 30 years for this specific figure and dacas seems to 'get it'

It's exactly what I wanted for a toon skyfire. It's big, it appears to be very articulated, and that's skyfires face :)

I'm quite excited for this particular release

[Megatran]

I haven't seen any pictures of Kronos (not-Skyfire) in full colour. Given that he's suppose to be available this month makes me think there could be a (significant) delay in the release date?

[Trent]

It's been pushed back about 2 weeks because they found a problem with the feet that needs to be corrected in the design I think.

[Tober]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/1620618_604179283009586_823931463_n_zps9bcfb242.jp g (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/1620618_604179283009586_823931463_n_zps9bcfb242.jp g.html)

That's a significant improvement, and I'd hit the pre-order button straight away if it wasn't that I don't know how Titan is going to turn out yet... :confused:

[MayzaPrime]

:eek::eek:

Wow! I am impressed...

[STL]

More impressed than initially but still not sure. Will need more pics (with colour to make the decision).

We have a lot of Skyfires coming this year!

(And that's not a bad thing) :D

[Micktimus]

I preordered from tfsource about a month ago, I think this is going to be a great figure and I think the price is reasonable for the size of the figure. Hope I don't get proven wrong.

[Tober]

Test shot update.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/980613_630004530427061_3860229955054827896_o_zps74 9b7e12.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/980613_630004530427061_3860229955054827896_o_zps74 9b7e12.jpg.html)

[Sinnertwin]

Very, very nice :cool:

[Megatran]

I dunno. He looks a little naked in colour standing next to his buddies.

[Bidoofdude]

That blue on the cockpit is really good.

[Initial_G]

Nice test shot, looks really good

[kaiden]

That has definitely come a long way from the first renders. Funny thing is Takara have really stepped up their game with the Masterpiece line and so I actually want to wait and see if they can do a cartoon accurate Jetfire.

Good job on this though.

[twincobra]

Looks pretty good, But not good enough to warrant a purchase from me. I hope taktom announces there's soon :p

[Gofigure]

its pretty much everything i had hoped for.

What i was wanting was a toon perfect toy of Skyfire that i should have been able to pick up at toyworld or kmart in 1984......now its finally here

[Megatran]

If there aren't any further delays :rolleyes: it should be available this month.

Also for release this month, supposively, are Fans Toys FT-04 Scoria (not Slag) and Bullsfire DB-01 Air Strike (not Swoop). What are month for 3rd party TF toys. :cool:

[Tober]

From Daca-toy's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/DacaToys?ref=br_tf):


the part that was having problems was fixed , first batch of kronos was sent to me to review everything is good to go factory says they can start shipping it in 2 weeks , here you have some pictures

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_10272574_647078422053005_417877322655716548_o_z ps1436cc48.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/10272574_647078422053005_417877322655716548_o_zps1 436cc48.jpg.html)

So two weeks to leave the factory, a week to arrive at the toy stores and another week to get to the buyers...

Same story with Scoria apparently.

[Gofigure]

Seems like this one, like scoria, is expected to ship fairly soon

Some of the recent pictures off site appear to have shoddy paint apps which has had me concerned. I am hoping these are not final products

[Trent]

Seems like this one, like scoria, is expected to ship fairly soon

Some of the recent pictures off site appear to have shoddy paint apps which has had me concerned. I am hoping these are not final products

Supposedly they are the test shots, with the final figure improved.

That said, I cancelled my preorder for this and will wait for FansToys. This one looks too kiddy.

[ChlorHex]

Supposedly they are the test shots, with the final figure improved.

That said, I cancelled my preorder for this and will wait for FansToys. This one looks too kiddy.

Is there a link to the Fanstoys version?
Would like to have a look.
Yeah, this sculpt is accurate to the cartoon but somehow it doesn't look as sharp.

[Tober]

I think the FT Skyfire has only had its silhouette revealed, and that was a while ago. There's been some tension between Daca and Fans Toys as well.

Apparently the production Skyfire will have better paint application, a lighter colored face and painted eyes instead of light-piping.

It's still scheduled to leave the factory in about 10 days. :)

[Trent]

FansToys one won't be out until next year and will be a lot more expensive we've been told.

But this one looks wrong.

[Tober]

FansToys one won't be out until next year and will be a lot more expensive we've been told.

But this one looks wrong.

What looks wrong about it?

I thinks it looks off, like Quakewave, compared to the Takara MP aesthetic, but it's mostly true to the G1 character.

There is supposedly an add-on set coming from Daca as well. Possibly a different head, nosecone swap-out piece... maybe some landing gear... :confused:

[Gofigure]

Landing gear???? Did someone say landing gear???? Noooooooooooooo..........

[Tober]

So Kronos is a parts-former... The backpack needs to be removed and re-attached to transform it... :(

That really sucks! :mad:

[Gofigure]

doesnt really bother me too much. I think i just love the sculpt so much that i will forgive alot ;)

[Trent]

What looks wrong about it?

I thinks it looks off, like Quakewave, compared to the Takara MP aesthetic, but it's mostly true to the G1 character.

Look at MP-10 for example. Look at the moulded detail that it has all over it, the rivets around the windows, on his silver chest stripe, windshield wipers, around his hips, the inside of his legs, his feet, etc. NONE of that was on the animation model but Takara added it because if you remove all that and just leave all Primes surfaces smooth like the cartoon it wouldn't look right. It would look cheap. This is how I feel about Kronos. It is too smooth. It lacks moulded detail which considering how big it is, is very noticable.

And yes, I'm aware that Quakewave isn't covered in moulded detail either, BUT, there is a little and given that there are no large plain surfaces on him, it suits him.



There is supposedly an add-on set coming from Daca as well. Possibly a different head, nosecone swap-out piece... maybe some landing gear... :confused:

Taking a page out of TFC's book then?



So Kronos is a parts-former... The backpack needs to be removed and re-attached to transform it... :(

That really sucks! :mad:

My decision to skip this and wait for FansToys sounds better every day ;)

[Tober]

Look at MP-10 for example. Look at the moulded detail that it has all over it, the rivets around the windows, on his silver chest stripe, windshield wipers, around his hips, the inside of his legs, his feet, etc. NONE of that was on the animation model but Takara added it because if you remove all that and just leave all Primes surfaces smooth like the cartoon it wouldn't look right. It would look cheap. This is how I feel about Kronos. It is too smooth. It lacks moulded detail which considering how big it is, is very noticable.

And yes, I'm aware that Quakewave isn't covered in moulded detail either, BUT, there is a little and given that there are no large plain surfaces on him, it suits him.

An inherent contradiction. Some fans want Kronos to be as 'true' to the cartoon and Marvel comics design as possible, which means it will look like a fridge instead of having the MP detailing. There is a reasonable amount of detail in there, it just hasn't been applied properly. :(

If FT's offering is better then Kronos gets 'reformatted' in a year. :cool:

[STL]

So Kronos is a parts-former... The backpack needs to be removed and re-attached to transform it... :(

That really sucks! :mad:

That makes me really re-evaluate it.


What looks wrong about it?

I thinks it looks off, like Quakewave, compared to the Takara MP aesthetic, but it's mostly true to the G1 character.

There is supposedly an add-on set coming from Daca as well. Possibly a different head, nosecone swap-out piece... maybe some landing gear... :confused:

I'm with you here. I think Quakewave looks fine but there is something just off about it. The colours, the detailing. It lacks some of Takara's touches.

The extra head, nose-cone swap out and landing gear? That puts me more on the fence. I keep wavering back and forth about it and these extra things, tip me away from this. Will still wait for reviews on this before committing. Want one but with others in the pipeline, am happy to wait it out.

[Tober]

It gets worse...

Along with the backpack/wings having to come off for transformation, you also have to remove the intake vents and store them inside the backpack

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/post-430-0-95625400-1402422043_thumb_zps953ca53a.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/post-430-0-95625400-1402422043_thumb_zps953ca53a.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/post-430-0-33795400-1402422054_thumb_zpsf2da4c1e.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/post-430-0-33795400-1402422054_thumb_zpsf2da4c1e.jpg.html)

:mad:

[STL]

^ Ugh. I really wanted to like this figure.

[Oberon Sexton]

Stop it guys! You're giving me buyers remorse... :(

[Micktimus]

I'm still happy that I've already ordered and paid for this figure, few minor things may bug me but overall I still think he will be a good, cheaper alternative to FT's offering.

[Tober]

And now there are rumors of QC problems...

I'd rather pay $250 for a MP Skyfire that I like rather than $150 for one I don't...

I just canceled my order with Robot Kingdom. :(

This is not the Skyfire we were looking for...

[reillyd]

And now there are rumors of QC problems...

I'd rather pay $250 for a MP Skyfire that I like rather than $150 for one I don't...

I just canceled my order with Robot Kingdom. :(

This is not the Skyfire we were looking for...

How do you cancel a RK order? I didn't know this was possible, as you prepay via paypal

[STL]

How do you cancel a RK order? I didn't know this was possible, as you prepay via paypal

+1?

A cursory glance at TFW2005 seems to be it was Optibotmus and his "unnamed source". I'm sceptical to go on that personally.

Not that I have any skin in the game but I certainly wouldn't be putting an order in till at least a review or two.

[Oberon Sexton]

+1?

A cursory glance at TFW2005 seems to be it was Optibotmus and his "unnamed source". I'm sceptical to go on that personally.

Not that I have any skin in the game but I certainly wouldn't be putting an order in till at least a review or two.

From what I'm seeing on TFW2005, Optibotimus was coming in late to the party and giving old news about a problem they already fixed awhile back. I never really liked the guy, just a vibe about him makes me not trust him.

[Tober]

How do you cancel a RK order? I didn't know this was possible, as you prepay via paypal

From their policy page (http://www.robotkingdom.com/order-policy):


Payment Policy

Only Paypal payment is accepted.
All payment is considered complete after paypal confirmation. I.e. Echeck clear.
Order Cancellation.
Preorders can be cancelled 5 days prior to the release date of the latest release item in the order.
In stock items orders Cancellation must be done within 12 hours after the order is paid.
Any Cancellation after the period mentioned in 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 might not be considered as a valid cancellation. Robotkingdom will not be responsible for any lost due to the late submission of cancellation.
Payment refund upon customer's request.
Full refund can only be done within 60 days after the order is placed.
Paypal fee might be charged by paypal for any refund after the period mentioned in 2.3.1.
Payment will be refunded to your paypal account linked to the order only. Any request for refund to other paypal account will not be considered.
Payment refund upon other reasons.
Items within the order cannot be located.
In some cases, one or more items in an order may not be located in our warehouse. In this case, customer can choose to:
Switch to other in stock items. The difference of the items price will be collected/refunded.
Refund the unavailable items and ship the rest of the order.
If the customer fail to reply within 7 days, the order will be processes under option 2 automatically.
Item within the order was cancelled by the producer.
In some cases, one or more items in an order may be cancelled by the producer. In this case, customer can choose to:
Switch to other in stock items. The difference of the items price will be collected/refunded.
Refund the Cancelled items and ship the rest of the order.
If the customer fail to reply within 7 days, the order will be processes under option 2 automatically.

So head on over to their contact page (http://www.robotkingdom.com/contacts/index/enquiry/) and send them a message stating your order number and see what they have to say. It seems to be no problem if you ordered less than 60 days ago.


+1?

A cursory glance at TFW2005 seems to be it was Optibotmus and his "unnamed source". I'm sceptical to go on that personally.

Not that I have any skin in the game but I certainly wouldn't be putting an order in till at least a review or two.

Yeah it was Optibotmus and what he said that broke my resolve. And I'm with you as far as viewing reviews first goes, but it was the limited production run and that the test shot looked really good (to me at least) that made me pre-order incase I missed out on one of my favorite bots.

[ITZTRU]

From what I'm seeing on TFW2005, Optibotimus was coming in late to the party and giving old news about a problem they already fixed awhile back. I never really liked the guy, just a vibe about him makes me not trust him.

Yeah me either actually - just the way he responds to his "fans" when they ask him a "ridiculous" (in his mind) question...as if it's the most absurd question he's ever been asked in his life. Or if someone disagrees with him. He ends up blocking the user sometimes. Poor form.

Anyway, off topic. Watching the progress unfold after all these pics has made me definitely want to wait for FT, especially based on how Quakewave was and everything i've seen on Scoria.

As Tober said:

I'd rather pay $250 for a MP Skyfire that I like rather than $150 for one I don't...

[STL]

Yeah me either actually - just the way he responds to his "fans" when they ask him a "ridiculous" (in his mind) question...as if it's the most absurd question he's ever been asked in his life. Or if someone disagrees with him. He ends up blocking the user sometimes. Poor form.

Anyway, off topic. Watching the progress unfold after all these pics has made me definitely want to wait for FT, especially based on how Quakewave was and everything i've seen on Scoria.



Those US boards are toxic. I frequent them for the pics and updates but it scares me how often there are inane comments that last for pages when there is nothing new to discuss. The MakeToys Defensor and Scorponok are just two of many examples of this.

Anyway, like both of you guys, I'm holding out too. Either the reviews convince me I was wrong or I wait for someone else to step up And let's face it, someone will. It took years to get Brainstorm/Omega Supreme/Roadbuster/Broadside but they were all worth it in the end.

[Gofigure]

Those US boards are toxic. I frequent them for the pics and updates but it scares me how often there are inane comments that last for pages when there is nothing new to discuss. The MakeToys Defensor and Scorponok are just two of many examples of this.

Anyway, like both of you guys, I'm holding out too. Either the reviews convince me I was wrong or I wait for someone else to step up And let's face it, someone will. It took years to get Brainstorm/Omega Supreme/Roadbuster/Broadside but they were all worth it in the end.

Looks like the volume of negative commentary on those boards has had an impact. Daca looks to be hesitant to develop his Titan (not idw jetfire). Looked pretty great too

I will never understand the perspective and behaviour of some 'fans' :(

[Trent]

It's a shame if that's the case because I was more interested in his Titan than Kronos. Despite the flaws of Kronos I probably been willing to look past them on Titan because I love Stormbringer Jetfire and because the alt mode looks a lot like a GTF Hercules from FreeSpace, which is my favourite fighter sim.

[Gofigure]

Yeah I was excited too. Wanted G1 skyfire more and will be getting that but really wanted an mp size modern jetfire....looking unlikely now due to the passion of fans and the critiques they love to provide, even before they have the product in hand.

[z3r03d]

Yeah I was excited too. Wanted G1 skyfire more and will be getting that but really wanted an mp size modern jetfire....looking unlikely now due to the passion of fans and the critiques they love to provide, even before they have the product in hand.

+1 i wonder why no one has reissued the G1 Jetfire.....

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/9520F291-E2B8-497A-B680-112090ACF849_zpszxd9zfug.jpg

I would buy a reissue in a heartbeat

[1AZRAEL1]

+1 i wonder why no one has reissued the G1 Jetfire.....

That mold is actually owned my Harmony Gold (Robotech) and therefore HasTak can't do it.

[z3r03d]

That mold is actually owned my Harmony Gold (Robotech) and therefore HasTak can't do it.

but what about KO version? there are KO's of everything.... why has no one made a KO of G1 Jetfire either.....

KO G1 Jetfire would still be better than none.

the tryhard figure i got is a ROBOTECH VF-1J... and just stuck a reprolabel Autobot sign on him...

and he is still not even close to the bulkyness of G1 jetfire. well minus the armour and colours.....

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/743FBA4F-5B8A-4E7F-873D-FCCA6682015D_zpsfykvvs7n.jpg

[1AZRAEL1]

but what about KO version? there are KO's of everything.... why has no one made a KO of G1 Jetfire either.....

KO G1 Jetfire would still be better than none.

I abhor KO because so many people try to pass it off as a legitimate G1 figure and sell it to fans who may not know about KO's. I'd rather have no figure over a KO any day. Still is kinda surprising they haven't done a KO, but maybe they fear how litigious Harmony Gold are when lookong after their IP :p

If they ever did manage to an Encore Jetfire, I would buy one in a heartbeat, and so would pretty much every fan. It would sell well.

[Megatran]

For those who still have him on pre-order, RK Facebook states: We have just received an information that Kronos will be available soon. Most likely later this week or early next week.

...and some more pics courtesy of RK (http://www.robotkingdom.com/daca001.html).

[Sinnertwin]

That mold is actually owned my Harmony Gold (Robotech) and therefore HasTak can't do it.

I thought Bandai owned the mould while Harmony Gold held the licensing rights?
The HG v Hasbro case regarding the SDCC Jetfire was dismissed with prejudice, so Harmony Gold can't take Hasbro to court for the same infringement issues over & over again :)

[Tober]

For those who still have him on pre-order, RK Facebook states: We have just received an information that Kronos will be available soon. Most likely later this week or early next week.

...and some more pics courtesy of RK (http://www.robotkingdom.com/daca001.html).

Interesting. I'm looking forward to what the reviewers say. :o


I thought Bandai owned the mould while Harmony Gold held the licensing rights?
The HG v Hasbro case regarding the SDCC Jetfire was dismissed with prejudice, so Harmony Gold can't take Hasbro to court for the same infringement issues over & over again :)

AFAIK, the mold is currently owned by Bandai and still licensed to Harmony Gold.

The mold was created by Takatoku. Hasbro got the rights in the USA and Bandai in Japan after Takatoku's demise early 1984.

HG appear to be the current rights holders outside of Japan, with Hasbro yet to make a move on a mold they no longer have access to.

[Gofigure]

For those who still have him on pre-order, RK Facebook states: We have just received an information that Kronos will be available soon. Most likely later this week or early next week.

...and some more pics courtesy of RK (http://www.robotkingdom.com/daca001.html).

Woohoo 2 heading my way!!!!!

[unexpectedpanda]

Well the transformation is messy, but that robot mode sure looks stunning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKwPvx3Z_0

[kaiden]

Well the transformation is messy, but that robot mode sure looks stunning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKwPvx3Z_0

saw that. not what i want in a masterpiece toy unfortunately.

[unexpectedpanda]

Yeah definitely got me in a very unsure place.

FT still committed to its Skyfire in 2015 at this stage, but a year is a long time in third party world, many things could happen that get in the way.

[Oberon Sexton]

From what I'm seeing, I think Kronos is a little bit taller than TFC Hercules. That's insane. The quality looks great and you it looks like you get your money's worth. i'm a little disappointed about the loose parts though. I would have been fine if it was just the back pack, but that back plate should be on a hinge or something. Also, those intake parts look like they may be easy to lose.

[Gofigure]

Thanks for the vid review

I'm still batsh$& crazy over this version as it perfectly captures my skyfire. I'm so happy how this has turned out.

He is going to look so rad next to all my other mp autobots

[STL]

From what I'm seeing, I think Kronos is a little bit taller than TFC Hercules. That's insane. The quality looks great and you it looks like you get your money's worth. i'm a little disappointed about the loose parts though. I would have been fine if it was just the back pack, but that back plate should be on a hinge or something. Also, those intake parts look like they may be easy to lose.

+1 on the loose parts. In the video u see too many dangling bits in transformation. Does anyone cringe when he extended the legs? It just doesn't seem very pleasant in an MP.

It does look excellent in robot mode but the alt mode could use improvements.

[CBratron]

Does anyone cringe when he extended the legs?

That's the beauty of Peaugh. If the toy can withstand his hamfisted, brute force transformation sequences, you know it'll last forever in your own hands.
It is also the reason I don't watch his reviews.

[Sinnertwin]

That's the beauty of Peaugh. If the toy can withstand his hamfisted, brute force transformation sequences, you know it'll last forever in your own hands.
It is also the reason I don't watch his reviews.

i don't mind his reviews, but i do remember when he ripped through a MoSC Bludgeon like a $2 bag of M & M's :D

[ChlorHex]

Caught 3/4 of the video...
It's a cross between Lego and Gundam IMO.
Nice jet mode and robot mode... Rather cartoon accurate but definitely not of MP standards.
100% parts former :p

[z3r03d]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKwPvx3Z_0

just saw this review... parts forming is not so bad for me....

he is cartoon accurate.... changed my mind... I really like him.. when is he coming out?

[Tober]

I'm pretty sure it's left the factory in China, so it should be at retailers soon.

[Lord_Zed]

He does look a lot better in that review than in every picture they released prior. Still not sure It's for me though.

[z3r03d]

I'm pretty sure it's left the factory in China, so it should be at retailers soon.

cool... im keen on this... ill be leaving him on robot mode to collect precious dust like my other collections and it will look awesome....

can't see it in chimungmung though....

[Oberon Sexton]

Still waiting for mine coming from Robotkingdom. No dispatch email yet. This figure is the damn reason I haven't got my igear conair raptor squadron yet. :(

I believe TFIDOWNUNDER still have preorders for this. It might be the cheapest option in terms of shipping. But if it's anything like the Scoria preorder, them receiving the figure may take longer than other places (only got my scoria yesturday from tfidownunder)

[Megatran]

Wasn't this guy suppose to be released already? What's the hold up now? :confused:

[Oberon Sexton]

Wasn't this guy suppose to be released already? What's the hold up now? :confused:

No clue, but I'm tempted to pay Robotkingdom the extra cash to send me the rest of my order so I don't have to wait for Kronos. =/

Man. At this rate, Fans Toys' next figure will be released before Kronos.

[Micktimus]

Got the notification from tfsource that kronos is instock.

[Gofigure]

Wow. Lots of negative feedback. I so wanted this to be epic.

Check youtube for some fairly worrying reviews. I'm all kinds of worried

[leej84]

Although not animation accurate, I rather purchase the new leader class jetfire

[VERT]

Im torn...I want a master piece Skyfire. Just not sure ....

[z3r03d]

Wow. Lots of negative feedback. I so wanted this to be epic.

Check youtube for some fairly worrying reviews. I'm all kinds of worried

seen the youtube reviews... IMHO the issues are not so bad really...

saw the video below and probably around 26 minutes you can see how big he is... he's wicked!

I'll definitely be buying him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfvzwVrCTNc

[Gofigure]

I cancelled both of mine at tfsource :( I was the biggest supporter of this and getting an MP style skyfire.....but across the board these are riddled with QC issues from minor to major (knees not bending, missing fingers, legs not retracting etc)

I can forgive a little bad paint apps but people are saying this is not worth the $170 price tag. Not by a long shot. Damn damn damn :(

[Gofigure]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxUhHj75qAU

[z3r03d]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxUhHj75qAU

hahahaha.... funny how he says shampoo plastic!

yeah qc issue is there same as any other 3rd party (i heard kfc is bad too but the toys still looks nice!)... doesnt stop me buying him... he will still look wicked on the shelf collecting dust!

[Gofigure]

Yeah shampoo plastic comment scared the crap out of me! :)

Not what I want on my skyfire

[leej84]

Save ur money folks haha

[Oberon Sexton]

Just contacted Robot Kingdom, seeing if I can cancel my pre-order. =/

[Gofigure]

I would query their refund policy, customer service on getting a defective product etc

This just resulted in tfsource cancelling my two orders; figured they didn't want to go thru the inevitable return of both from me

[z3r03d]

ouch.... now this is bad.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/957592-daca-toys-kronos-masterpiece-skyfire-jetfire-910.html#post11353253

just might be a lemon! not everybody would get it this bad.....

[Tfiguy]

I wrote Daca Toys a couple of emails tonight asking what their stance is on customer support and how they intend to fix these issues. I'm still waiting on their response. After they sent my entire stock order of Kronos for my online store from the factory in china, to the USA and then back to china again to my supplier, instead of here in Australia in the first place, :rolleyes: one good thing that came out of it is that it gave me the chance to read/watch a few reviews before they got reshipped to here. In most of the reviews that I have seen the figure itself has appalling Qc issues. So I wrote my supplier and got them to put a hold on the shipment until they find out from Daca Toys, or, Daca Toys writes back to me and let's me know how they are going to fix this what seems very broad situation (obviously in a lot more detail than that). If they don't get in contact with us I would say (provided everyone that ordered kronos through us is happy with the decision) that I would go as far as canceling the order with a full refund because there is no point getting a giant box of faulty Kronos' and they are very stingy on the customer support/replacement parts or figures. There's no way I would sell them to anyone with that kind of knowing. It would be just simply a waste of my and my customer's time and money. But anyway, hopefully, they are willing to do the right thing and all will be ok... Anyways, I will keep everyone posted on the response they give me.

[Tfiguy]

This is a direct copy and paste from our conversation if anyone wants to see their response-(easier than me trying to explain)

ME-

Dear Daca Toys,
My name is name and I own the Australian online company Tfi Down Under (Transformer imports Down Under). Firstly, I would like to say congratulations on Kronos. Finally, fans and collectors around the world can get their grasps on the G1 Skyfire that they always wanted. We have great interest in your Kronos figure and we are currently wholesaling it through name. Now, because of the shipping error that caused all of our stock to be sent to the USA from the factory in China, it has bought us time to read and watch many reviews on You tube and discussion boards about Kronos. Unfortunately, there seems to be somewhat of a number of complaints coming in about major QC issues of Kronos. These issues to name a few are-

1. Loose items inside the boxes which causes large scratching of the paint because the interior packaging is not sturdy enough.

2. The backpack rips off paint when you take it off.

3. The hinges on the 2 tails of the back pack are not aligned correctly making them unable to fold correctly.

4. Many people can not fold the feet in and some say they fear to force it because it feels as though it will break.

5. The issue has been raised and It seems that short cuts have been made by not applying enough screws around areas like the legs, arms and other areas therefore creating unsightly gaps, and, another one,

6. People are having a hard time contracting the legs so much that, they contract with an almighty crack damaging the figurine in some instances and scratching more paint off.

These issues really do need to be addressed as soon as possible. Especially, because these items are valued almost over $200 after shipping for customers. As you would be aware this is not exactly highly affordable.
Now, I have asked my supplier to please hold on the shipment until these issues are addressed by you at Daca Toys because we hold the utmost respect for our customers and pride ourselves on delivering A1 customer service and we refuse to sell faulty products if indeed there are any in our batch. We now get customers asking us to open and check for faults before shipping Kronos when it arrives, as to save any hassles in the future.
Would you please be able to tell us what your stance is on customer service, how you will fix these faulty issues, will you be replacing any faulty parts, will you deal with each customer individually or will you be working with dealers and wholesalers so that we don't loose any of our profits in any extra shipping costs that may occur should you decide to replace any faulty parts or replacement of entire figure altogether?
Thank you very much for your time and I am sorry to hear about these unfortunate events. Nobody ever likes to hear complaints about things that they have invested so much time, money and effort into and my heart goes out to you guys. But, if I'm sure it will all work out for the best if Daca Toys are going remedy the situation in the best way that you can.
Kindest regards,
Name
www.tfidownunder.com
15 minutes ago

Daca Toys-

Name , hi , I just received your message
1 apparently the loosing areas where due to shipment and that's been adressed

2 the hinges aligned properly the problematic area is the ankletilt ( ratchetd on the last hole is very tight and is making putting a lot of pressure. ) Its already been adressed

3 the back pack has to be tigh in order not to fall off , if you are complaining about paint issues then we will have to complaint to every hasbro or third party product ever release ( the figure has been put under the miscroscope , by a couple of people that sworn to destroy it and we about that long ago)

4 same reason as before that area its been adressed to avoid problems

5 there are not issues with aligments or. Less screws that nessecary. ( It was designed that way) actually it has more screws that it should

6 the legs have to be really tight since they have an sliding mechanisn. And since the figure is very heavy , using less pressure it will cause. The legs to retract and not be able to hold a pose

The only replacements that are we doing is parts that could have been missing or broken , not full figure exchanges. , if you need full figures exchange you will have to retunr the faulty ones. , the parts are very simple to exchange. Via screws or pins that we will provide. , parts will be sent to retailers since it will be impossible to deal with everysingle purchase.

Let me know what you decide either way , but as I said everything will be adressed by retailers. Not costumers

Just for your information out of 500 shipped we have only encourtered 19 complaints. About broken or missing parts and 1 on whch the whole assambly was wrong. Which we already replace in full since it was missing few parts and. Was assambly the wrong way ( chest was backwards , fins were the same side. Together with forearms)

[Tfiguy]

Wasn't this guy suppose to be released already? What's the hold up now? :confused:

The whole shipment was apparently accidentally sent to USA from the factory. So for companies like mine and maybe RBK (I'm not sure where it's based but it isn't in the states am I right?) that means that we have to wait for my whole stock order to hit the States and then get sent to your retailer...mine did a full 180 and went back to China where my wholesaler is. I haven't been notified that it's been shipped to Australia as yet...

[Trent]

Thanks for the info. It's good to get an insight into the retailer side of the industry. I must admit that I was at one stage very keen on this guy but now wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. A lot of people on TFW are going "But it's only $160!!". I don't care. $160 on a poor toy is still wasted money. I'd rather wait and pay more for FansToys' version. At least I know it'll be good. I know there are people happy with him but I can't say I would be.

Can't say I'm too impressed with Daca Toys response to you. I couldn't blame you for canceling your order with them. Depending on how many units you ordered vs how many preordered, you could be trying to offload this stuff for a while.

This whole Kronos situation is a mess :(

[Oberon Sexton]

Starting to sound like BTS Sonicron

[Gofigure]

whoa....thats.....not good.

They only hope for Kronos is to take apart, get a good custom guy, have custom guy make repairs, and put it all back to togther ;)

Problem is, it looks so damn good and i really want a skyfire of that size

[Tfiguy]

lol.. yeah, well it is a lot of money to me. I've asked for a refund, I don't know how easy it will be to get one out of them. But they were talking about after sales where they will send out spare parts. But as I told them, it won't be as simple as that. There will have to be small modifications on the new parts, so that new screws may go in and you can tighten those yukky gaps up for e.g. and what ever else they need to fix. I also sent them some photos of some common faults. They can't just send out the same generic parts because it won't fix the actual problem, just replace it with a newer version of the problem... So, yes they are now seeking info on the new parts and will get back to me asap. I'll keep you guys posted for those who may already have issues with their Kronos that they purchased from elsewhere. Hopefully it will come as some use them. :)

[ChlorHex]

They only hope for Kronos is to take apart, get a good custom guy, have custom guy make repairs, and put it all back to togther ;)

Problem is, it looks so damn good and i really want a skyfire of that size

It's doable dude... but it'll need a lot of work to clean up the poorly aligned bits and fix the errors.
The question is, is it worth the money and time?
This isn't a cheap toy to get and getting it so flawed from the start is just bad.

[ChlorHex]

lol.. yeah, well it is a lot of money to me. I've asked for a refund, I don't know how easy it will be to get one out of them. But they were talking about after sales where they will send out spare parts. But as I told them, it won't be as simple as that. There will have to be small modifications on the new parts, so that new screws may go in and you can tighten those yukky gaps up for e.g. and what ever else they need to fix. I also sent them some photos of some common faults. They can't just send out the same generic parts because it won't fix the actual problem, just replace it with a newer version of the problem... So, yes they are now seeking info on the new parts and will get back to me asap. I'll keep you guys posted for those who may already have issues with their Kronos that they purchased from elsewhere. Hopefully it will come as some use them. :)

Get out of it while you can.
Unless you're able to sell this at half the price with no returns, I don't think anyone would grab this unfortunate mess.

[Gofigure]

It's doable dude... but it'll need a lot of work to clean up the poorly aligned bits and fix the errors.
The question is, is it worth the money and time?
This isn't a cheap toy to get and getting it so flawed from the start is just bad.

Had been thinking of u man when I was entertaining this ;)

But your right. Is it worth the time and money?

I was very much looking forward to a skyfire of this scale. I know fanstoys have one in development but was unsure of scale and height of that

Cognitive dissonance on this is killing me :)

[Tfiguy]

Get out of it while you can.
Unless you're able to sell this at half the price with no returns, I don't think anyone would grab this unfortunate mess.

I know but I'm just waiting for them to respond. You never know, something good may come good of it. Everyone deserves a fair go when they stuff up... I stuff up all the time lol ;)..... I put it back in their shoes and said - it's the same as you bought a brand new washing machine and when you set it up it was broke. So you call the store and the say 'Yes we can send you the parts, but you have to fix it yourself.' I said now I know you would be pissed off about that for obvious reasons but if you've never repaired one before, you wouldn't know what to do. We don't spend $200 so you can repair a broken toy, because we're not toy repairers... We're collectors and geeks... That's your job the first time around.

[STL]

As grateful as I am to get out of this when I did, I'm very sorry to hear you guys having trouble with this. It's a pity b/c there are pics of him that look good but clearly it's when you get into the detail the toy fails.

Guess that anonymous source on the TFW boards was right after all.

[Oberon Sexton]

As grateful as I am to get out of this when I did, I'm very sorry to hear you guys having trouble with this. It's a pity b/c there are pics of him that look good but clearly it's when you get into the detail the toy fails.

Guess that anonymous source on the TFW boards was right after all.

Probably one of the most frustrating things in this world is admitting that Optibotimus was right... I was sooooo hoping to rub it in his face. UGH.

[STL]

Probably one of the most frustrating things in this world is admitting that Optibotimus was right... I was sooooo hoping to rub it in his face. UGH.

I don't like him but I'm very thankful now. That would've been $200+ shipped. A lot of quality toy money there.

[Oberon Sexton]

I don't like him but I'm very thankful now. That would've been $200+ shipped. A lot of quality toy money there.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ep6JGPSfukk/UZ3jrRVJ4yI/AAAAAAAAB5Y/-lIMExoGg8w/s400/goodnewseveryone.png

Robot Kingdom gave me my refund! :D

[STL]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ep6JGPSfukk/UZ3jrRVJ4yI/AAAAAAAAB5Y/-lIMExoGg8w/s400/goodnewseveryone.png

Robot Kingdom gave me my refund! :D
That's great of them! Wasn't sure if they'd do that. They're not known that well for after sales support.

[Micktimus]

Got my shipment from tfsource today only to find a massive hole in the back of the box, and one of the little red tabs broken off in the box. Pretty crap paint job aswell. I really feel I've been ripped off with this figure. Too anyone considering this figure DO NOT BUY!!! Anyone who can cancel there order do it now.

[ChlorHex]

Got my shipment from tfsource today only to find a massive hole in the back of the box, and one of the little red tabs broken off in the box. Pretty crap paint job aswell. I really feel I've been ripped off with this figure. Too anyone considering this figure DO NOT BUY!!! Anyone who can cancel there order do it now.

Oh my... That sounds really bad.
Take some pics if you can.
I'm keen to look at the issues with the figure.

[Gofigure]

That....sounds bad.

Do I still get one and get a little help from a member here to do a complete fix up.....how much do I love skyfire....hmmmmmm ;)

[z3r03d]

Oh my... That sounds really bad.
Take some pics if you can.
I'm keen to look at the issues with the figure.

im keen to see the issues too... I was really looking forward to getting one but there is sooo much QC issues, i held back. (glad i did)

can it be fixed?

[ChlorHex]

That....sounds bad.

Do I still get one and get a little help from a member here to do a complete fix up.....how much do I love skyfire....hmmmmmm ;)

:rolleyes: a true hardcore Skyfire fan. LOL :p

[Gofigure]

If fanstoys was the same height and dimensions it would be a no-brainer but thinking theirs will be smaller....I'm conflicted.

Some on other boards have got great ones, others terrible. It's a roll of the Dice for sure :(

[ChlorHex]

If fanstoys was the same height and dimensions it would be a no-brainer but thinking theirs will be smaller....I'm conflicted.

Some on other boards have got great ones, others terrible. It's a roll of the Dice for sure :(

It'll all be good in the end... Probably avoid multiple transformations when you do get it and keep it in bot mode as it really is a good sculpt.
Pity with the QC issues :o

[Micktimus]

Tfsource has offered to replace the figure but that means I have to post the figure to them and then wait for them to send it back to me. Not sure what I'm going o do yet. I'm going to look at the figure again tonight now that I've had a chance to cool off after initially seeing it. Doesn't help that I got scoria in the same shipment which is awesome and makes kronos look even worse.

[ChlorHex]

Tfsource has offered to replace the figure but that means I have to post the figure to them and then wait for them to send it back to me. Not sure what I'm going o do yet. I'm going to look at the figure again tonight now that I've had a chance to cool off after initially seeing it. Doesn't help that I got scoria in the same shipment which is awesome and makes kronos look even worse.

Is shipping coming out of your pocket or are they paying for that??

[Trent]

If fanstoys was the same height and dimensions it would be a no-brainer but thinking theirs will be smaller....I'm conflicted.

Some on other boards have got great ones, others terrible. It's a roll of the Dice for sure :(

Pretty sure FansToys have said theirs will be the same size, if not a little bigger. It was in a post by dalianjj on TFW when the prototype Kronos was first revealed.

I'm waiting for that one :)

[Gofigure]

Pretty sure FansToys have said theirs will be the same size, if not a little bigger. It was in a post by dalianjj on TFW when the prototype Kronos was first revealed.

I'm waiting for that one :)

Really? Well that would be great

[Tfiguy]

Got my shipment from tfsource today only to find a massive hole in the back of the box, and one of the little red tabs broken off in the box. Pretty crap paint job aswell. I really feel I've been ripped off with this figure. Too anyone considering this figure DO NOT BUY!!! Anyone who can cancel there order do it now.

Wow, that blows man.

[Micktimus]

I have to pay for the postage upfront and they reimburse me when they get the figure. But your not allowed to use express mail only standard delivery. So if it's lost in transit then your left wih no figure.

[liegeprime]

@ Micktimus: Can you post up review pics, when and if you can please? It looks alright in the promotion pics, but those are usually touched up so as to sell the toys.From the start though I find the toy a bit too simple for that size, so haven't been interested in getting one. A few pics might help people here more in warning them about what defects the product have as opposed to whatever pics the company will release as those would only be the best shots and not what the product really is like, defects and all.. Thanks for the Warning too.

@TFiGuy: that response letter back to you from Daca Toys sounds a little bit uncaring and combative. As one who is legitimately giving them a good feedback on what is wrong with their product (so they can improve it) it's a bit like "talk to the hand" in my impression. I'd say from reading the last few entries you might wanna stop getting the toy coz it sound a lot of issues have risen up from it. Pretty much like Sonicron as Oberon Sexton said - I have that toy, and for all the beauty of the design, the execution is sloppy as and I'm sorry I got this toy. I wouldn't pass it on (selling or gifting) though as it's not something the recipient would prolly appreciate me for... it's that bad.... and I get the feeling this Kronos is like that.

[Micktimus]

I took my kronos out of the box tonight and had a good look at it, after waiting 24hours after my initial shock with my box coming with a big hole in the back of it.
With a calmer mind this is my thoughts on kronos:
The figure is big and has a good weight too it
The paint is bad, lots or wear marks on the white and the red is splashed onto areas that should be white.
Arm joints are very loose and only one arm can hold his gun
The box was full of white plastic shavings which I have never experienced ever
The packaging looks cool except when u have a hole in it
If u put the figure on display and don't look at it too close then it wi probably be fine.
I don't think I'll ever transform this figure for fear of breaking it.

Final thoughts if your lucky enough to get one of these without the problems I've had then you may well enjoy this figure.



@ Micktimus: Can you post up review pics, when and if you can please? It looks alright in the promotion pics, but those are usually touched up so as to sell the toys.From the start though I find the toy a bit too simple for that size, so haven't been interested in getting one. A few pics might help people here more in warning them about what defects the product have as opposed to whatever pics the company will release as those would only be the best shots and not what the product really is like, defects and all.. Thanks for the Warning too.

@TFiGuy: that response letter back to you from Daca Toys sounds a little bit uncaring and combative. As one who is legitimately giving them a good feedback on what is wrong with their product (so they can improve it) it's a bit like "talk to the hand" in my impression. I'd say from reading the last few entries you might wanna stop getting the toy coz it sound a lot of issues have risen up from it. Pretty much like Sonicron as Oberon Sexton said - I have that toy, and for all the beauty of the design, the execution is sloppy as and I'm sorry I got this toy. I wouldn't pass it on (selling or gifting) though as it's not something the recipient would prolly appreciate me for... it's that bad.... and I get the feeling this Kronos is like that.

[VERT]

Mine is coming from Chimungmung. Its being opened and fully inspected before its shipped to me. Yay Tony :D

[Megatran]

I have to pay for the postage upfront and they reimburse me when they get the figure. But your not allowed to use express mail only standard delivery. So if it's lost in transit then your left wih no figure.

I did the same thing recently. No issues. Would prefer not to experience this again as sending the item back & receiving a replacement took well over a month with snail mail.

You CAN return the item using Express Mail, but Tfsource will only reimburse a portion of the postage cost.

[z3r03d]

Mine is coming from Chimungmung. Its being opened and fully inspected before its shipped to me. Yay Tony :D

did he say that or are you assuming? would really like to get one from him too if he is willing to check item for defect before shipping...

[VERT]

did he say that or are you assuming? would really like to get one from him too if he is willing to check item for defect before shipping...

you can buy it without the box to save on postage. And yes he did say he will personally check it for QC issues. Its in stock now

[z3r03d]

you can buy it without the box to save on postage. And yes he did say he will personally check it for QC issues. Its in stock now

ok cool im ordering now and take a risk... thanks!!!

[z3r03d]

Buy at your own risk i suppose..

Please Note: This figure is known for the possibility of having a few QC issues. These issues may include loose joints, or paint application defects. TFSource is unable to replace or accept a return of this figure if your purchase is affected with these QC issues. (http://tfsource.com/dacatoys/kronos/)

[Sinnertwin]

Buy at your own risk i suppose..

Please Note: This figure is known for the possibility of having a few QC issues. These issues may include loose joints, or paint application defects. TFSource is unable to replace or accept a return of this figure if your purchase is affected with these QC issues. (http://tfsource.com/dacatoys/kronos/)

Sounds like TFSource want nothing to do with it now either.

[ChlorHex]

Sounds like TFSource want nothing to do with it now either.

They shouldn't sell it then if these terms and conditions apply... Well, not at full price that is.

[Sinnertwin]

They shouldn't sell it then if these terms and conditions apply... Well, not at full price that is.

Last i checked it was sold out at TFSource, so it looks like people are willing to take that risk despite what has been written up about it.

[Gofigure]

Tfsource should have two of mine sitting in their stock room ready for purchase ;)

[Tfiguy]

We ended up canning it at my store as it was too much of a risk. Maybe we would get it in one day if they did a re-run of the figure with all Qc problems fixed, but I doubt they will. Anyone who bought from us will get full credit on the store, or refund. Thanks

[Trent]

We ended up canning it at my store as it was too much of a risk. Maybe we would get it in one day if they did a re-run of the figure with all Qc problems fixed, but I doubt they will. Anyone who bought from us will get full credit on the store, or refund. Thanks

I don't think anyone is going to blame you for that. Perfectly understandable.

[Kapryiath]

i had one pre ordered and im grateful for the cancellation saves everyone hassle and pays for my ft soar :D

[z3r03d]

So to all the curious TF fans out there....

so is he worth getting? Yes
is he worth the price tag? No.
If you have paid all the necessary bills this month; the wife is happy with her spare money and had a few loose $$$ that you don't really need like i did; should you just get him anyway? YES.

All the BAD QC issues on the internet is true, Yes they could have done better... but my one for me is ok.

lets be honest... it will just sit on the Shelf for millions of years same as my other TF collection collecting dust..... but it looks good!!

IMHO its not as BAD (fragile) as my ToyWorld-03 BII!! <--- Very Fragile!!

Anyway, enjoy the pics. - Any questions just ask.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/11A92099-BF4D-48F0-90A7-AE4A9B755D8D_zpscnxh2rlv.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/DF45292F-A84A-4C24-9F56-DA6117E1D033_zps7rovykk0.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/C9F49BA5-69DC-41E0-9994-F92FA58B57E6_zpshuphjwov.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/59701BAD-C569-4FD8-9E65-3E80780F789D_zpspv3mdzv1.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm56/gumnuthead/Transformers/89A071D1-F165-43D5-A957-EC95C8E94A69_zpsedcmwayj.jpg

[Gofigure]

God he looks good!!!!

hows the QC? any glaring issues?

[VERT]

Got mine today. Was able to transform him with no trouble. Legs are tight. ...very tight. He looks awesome and im happy with him. QC

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff473/VERTYSNAP/20140730_144101_2.jpg (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/VERTYSNAP/media/20140730_144101_2.jpg.html)

[z3r03d]

God he looks good!!!!

hows the QC? any glaring issues?

Mine is ok... legs were sort of tight but any new toy would be. after a few pulls it was fine and locks in place.

he stands straight and majestic! im glad i bought him and yes he looks very good on the shelf.....

[Gofigure]

I really want....

[Tfiguy]

Mine is ok... legs were sort of tight but any new toy would be. after a few pulls it was fine and locks in place.

he stands straight and majestic! im glad i bought him and yes he looks very good on the shelf.....

That's good man! One of the lucky ones!

[Oberon Sexton]

I always liked the the design of the figure, but with all the news of QC problems I had to back out of my preorder. People were comparing him to a shampoo bottle and that basically became the turning point for me.

[Gofigure]

Got my Kronos today and so fat very happy with mine

No QC stuff so far, paints apps are good. One or two joints a little loose but all in all I'm very happy

Glad I've got a decent skyfire after sooooooo long ;)

[z3r03d]

Got my Kronos today and so fat very happy with mine

No QC stuff so far, paints apps are good. One or two joints a little loose but all in all I'm very happy

Glad I've got a decent skyfire after sooooooo long ;)

congrats! we are the lucky few....

[ChlorHex]

Got my Kronos today and so fat very happy with mine

No QC stuff so far, paints apps are good. One or two joints a little loose but all in all I'm very happy

Glad I've got a decent skyfire after sooooooo long ;)

Good to know it's turned out well for you :)
You think the QC issues have been over exaggerated?

[Gofigure]

Mine is the second batch and checked by the chosen price before shipping

I assume QC issues were true for most. I'm just glad mine was second batch. Nothing so far of real concern very very happy

Don't think it will need any mods chlor. But will keep u in mind just in case...

[ChlorHex]

Mine is the second batch and checked by the chosen price before shipping

I assume QC issues were true for most. I'm just glad mine was second batch. Nothing so far of real concern very very happy

Don't think it will need any mods chlor. But will keep u in mind just in case...

QC issues aside, it looks good enough as it is :)
They've captured the Jetfire bot mode and locked it into plastic quite well... There's no need for mods.
Unless you want to make him Decepticon ;)

[RotorstormNZ]

It's great to hear people getting good ones!

I'd love to see him compared to the new Generations Leader, just for size.