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Sky Shadow
13th November 2013, 04:21 PM
Floro Dery is selling a signed print of his original design for Cybertron (plus its robot mode) on etsy. It would be a great possession.

http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/168675537/cybertron-its-robot-mode-signed-print-of?ref=shop_home_active

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9706/cnk7.jpg

UltraMarginal
13th November 2013, 05:10 PM
so when was this scetched up? is this a concept from G1?!?!

I didn't think the concept of Cybertron transforming was entertained untill the Unicron Trilogy?

komikskolektor
13th November 2013, 07:39 PM
The sketch or concept art was from the Transformers Animated Movie back in the 80's

griffin
14th November 2013, 01:31 AM
The art style is indeed very similar to the Autobot City concept proposal that Jim Sorenson uncovered and revealed a couple years ago.
This was probably an early script/concept idea thrown around, to have Cybertron transform to fight off Unicron. We joke about how much a Michael Bay script changes on a daily basis, but we've seen quite a few things now that were dropped or changed in the 1986 movie.
It's a pity the movie was done so long ago, as it would be interesting to hear from the people who went through the creation process and talk about what other ideas were proposed.

It's funny that the fandom were quite opposed at having Cybertron be a transformer (when Furman had Primus introduced in his comic as the core of Cybertron, and then when it finally happened in the Unicron Trilogy), but it was almost canon from Gen1, if this had ended up being in the movie.

5FDP
14th November 2013, 08:26 AM
That print is awesome :cool: I'm sure it will sell for more than I can afford :(

Trent
14th November 2013, 09:40 AM
That print is awesome :cool: I'm sure it will sell for more than I can afford :(

It's sold. I wonder if anyone here bought it?

I wouldn't mind getting a few of his sketches. Some great attention to detail in them.

UltraMarginal
14th November 2013, 09:57 AM
The sketch or concept art was from the Transformers Animated Movie back in the 80's


The art style is indeed very similar to the Autobot City concept proposal that Jim Sorenson uncovered and revealed a couple years ago.
This was probably an early script/concept idea thrown around, to have Cybertron transform to fight off Unicron. We joke about how much a Michael Bay script changes on a daily basis, but we've seen quite a few things now that were dropped or changed in the 1986 movie.
It's a pity the movie was done so long ago, as it would be interesting to hear from the people who went through the creation process and talk about what other ideas were proposed.

It's funny that the fandom were quite opposed at having Cybertron be a transformer (when Furman had Primus introduced in his comic as the core of Cybertron, and then when it finally happened in the Unicron Trilogy), but it was almost canon from Gen1, if this had ended up being in the movie.

That's really interesting, It would be great to pick the brains of some of those creators. I think most people would be surprised just how much a movie changes between initial script and final print. Michael Bay certainly isn't on his own.

I wonder what Transformers Lore would be like today if they had made Cybertron a transformer all the way back in the Animated Movie?

Sky Shadow
14th November 2013, 01:35 PM
so when was this scetched up? is this a concept from G1?!?!

Dery doesn't have the most reliable memory (or ego), but since he was the actual concept designer of Cybertron and it's pretty much the first shot in the entire cartoon series, and he says the robot design is from 1984, it could well be from 1984. At the very latest, it would be from 1985.

Here's Nightbird's original design (http://www.etsy.com/au/listing/157321564/nightbird-signed-print-of-original) (now also sold.)

DELTAprime
15th November 2013, 11:09 PM
Seibertron has just compiled a bunch of Floro's art work.

Enjoy

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/g1-concept-art-by-floro-dery-image-heavy/28788/

Paulbot
15th November 2013, 11:45 PM
Some nice stuff there, but I particularly like the earlier, not cleaned up, versions of Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge looking like they actually are made from the parts of destroyed Decepticons.

Hursticon
15th November 2013, 11:49 PM
Some nice stuff there, but I particularly like the earlier, not cleaned up, versions of Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge looking like they actually are made from the parts of destroyed Decepticons.

I friggin' agree 100%! - Man do they look cool! :eek::cool:

SuspectimusPrime
16th November 2013, 12:12 PM
Although Primus has a pretty sweet sword, he should probably hit the gym before facing off with Unicron :p

griffin
10th February 2014, 11:29 PM
Seibertron has just compiled a bunch of Floro's art work.

Enjoy

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/g1-concept-art-by-floro-dery-image-heavy/28788/

For anyone who hasn't had a look through that link above yet, do it!

Then when you're done being amazed for about half an hour or so, four more concept artworks have surfaced for sale by Floro Dery and were also mirrored here (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/additional-unused-concept-art-by-floro-dery-mechanobeast-quintessa-junkion-crystal-of-power/29364/)... including one that relates to an Autobot combiner called the Anibots (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Anibot) - an early draft of the 1986 movie had the "Predacons" as Autobots, that would merge into a dragon beast instead of a giant bot.
The wiki link goes into some detail of their role in the battle of Autobot City in an early script draft.




Clump the rhinoceros
Pardo the leopard
Shriek the eagle
Simba the lion
Thump the buffalo

The Anibots merge to form the giant, lightning-breathing "mechano-beast" known as Dragon Beast.


It's unknown if this was something too ambitious, or later scaled back to the standard combiner form that ended up being Predaking, but the original idea suggests that it not only combined into a Dragon beast, but could also transform into a spaceship and Hydra.


They combine to become the 'Mechano-Beast'. This is the end of the three versions. The 1st version looks like a monster with outer spiketail structure & transforms a second time to an alien spaceship. The 3rd version is a 'Hydra' with five heads. The 'Mechano-Beast' in simplified form.

Following this recent revelation,I can see an eventual redeco set of the Predacons being done as Autobots with those names.

griffin
10th February 2014, 11:41 PM
While on the topic of one of the earliest draft scripts, check out Jim Sorenson's blog for a copy and some excerpts (http://boltax.blogspot.com.au/2010/12/heritaage-auctions-transformers-movie.html). It was written by April 27 1985, which is not long after Transformers began.... and about 15 months before the movie ended up screening in cinemas in America (it was even several months before I even got my first Transformers toy).
Its amazing how much it changed from that draft to the finished film.

griffin
10th February 2014, 11:48 PM
Something I only just picked up on, answers the question of how many moons Cybertron had - 5 is noted by Floro Dery on a few occasions in his concept work, which may not make it official, but would suggest that Cybertron was meant to have 5 moons in the original cartoon and Movie.