Xbox One Vs PS4

[Autocon]

Has anyone bought any of these consoles yet?

Was hoping the older consoles would drop in price but not so, might as well buy one of these.

Opinions and verdicts??

[Bidoofdude]

Wii U all the way. ;)

[sideswipes brother]

I'm a Xbox boy all the way, simply because of Halo and the 'Trigger" controls.
Haven't tried either of the new ones though?

[Trent]

I'm a good 2 years away from getting a PS4. There are no good games out yet and there is still a lot of PS3 games I want to get through first.

[shokwave2]

I'm a good 2 years away from getting a PS4. There are no good games out yet and there is still a lot of PS3 games I want to get through first.

If PS4 was backwards compatible i'd pick one up, as there's too many PS3 games on my to-do list. And it usually takes a year or so before games start pushing the system.

I was delivering PS4's on friday, as i'm a delivery driver. One guy wasn't home, so i rang his mobile to inform him. He told me to leave it on the back table as he won't be home from work until 5pm. If i had ordered a day 1 console i sure as hell wouldn't have it left outside all day.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Give it 3-4 years and the PS4 will be very worth it. XB1 seems pointless, more expensive and less powerful? Crazy man, crazy.

Wii U is killer right now if only for SM3DW

[Omega Metro]

If PS4 was backwards compatible i'd pick one up

^^this^^
This makes PS4 an epic fail IMO.

[1orion2many]

I didn't think either was backward compatible, For this reason alone I am looking at skipping both these. The only reason for lack of compatibility is to make you buy the same game again to fill their pockets. I am leaning more and more towards my PC;)

[Gouki]

Wii U all the way. As the consoles got closer and closer to launching, I found all my gaming needs more than met by the Wii U.

[kup]

I will wait a while for the Next Gen game libraries to grow a little and for the consoles to have their glitches ironed out before I decide if I want in. Don't want to buy an eventual brick with hardly any games at twice the cost.

This pretty much reflects my view of the console wars as it is now:

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[BigTransformerTrev]

I didn't buy my PS3 until War for Cybertron came out. I wont bother buying the next generation of consoles until Highmoon does the next installment.

Of course, they will prob do a movie game next year, but they always suck :rolleyes:

[Omega Metro]

I bought my PS3 this year. Have about 30 games (none of which I paid over $20 for except GTA5) so need to get more use out of this:D
Maybe when GTA6 comes out I will consider another console.

[kup]

I bought my PS3 this year. Have about 30 games (none of which I paid over $20 for except GTA5) so need to get more use out of this:D
Maybe when GTA6 comes out I will consider another console.

I bought my PS3 a couple of years ago for less than $100.

Some guy on Ebay was selling his PS3 as 'faulty' but from the description, it sounded more as if it was just an Hard disk problem. I decided to take a risk and bought it. I then removed and re-inserted the hard disk, formatted it and I ended up with a fully functioning PS3 :)

I don't have many games on it (less than a dozen) as I only use it for the exclusives. The PC is a far superior and versatile gaming machine so if it's a game that is available on both, the PC version wins every time.

It will probably be a few years before I decide to buy a PS4. If I buy it now, it will just sit there gathering dust as not many exclusives that grab my attention as yet.

[UltraMarginal]

One think i've noticed about consoles in the past is the revised edition with the slimline body and better inclusions (ie bigger HDD etc) always come out a year or so down the track.

I have a Wii and my PC, these days i don't spend a lot of time on either... which makes upgrading to anything hard to justify, so I probably won't.

I think that Xbox moving to BluRay was a very good decision.

Autocon, I think you'll see price drops in the older generation after Christmas. The thing that the Console companys have started to realise is that there are so many people still playing the older machines, these days it's taking longer for popularity to shift to the latest piece of hardware, probably due to the amount of people that do game on a console these days.
As a result they don't drop the price of the older gear as quickly or as much as they used to.

My advice would be to go with what you're comfortable with, if you've never used either system before see if you can check out what you're mates have.

[i_amtrunks]

I'm thinking 360 and PS3 may well do the PS2 style thing; sell a literal craptonne of very cheap units after the next gen has been released and live for another 3-5 years based purely off the strong back catalogue. Add in the ability to download many titles (as long as they are supported) and theres the potential for this generation to be the longest by a country mile.

I won't upgrade for a few years, Wii U will be the next purchase after a few more titles are released, gives me time to play a good 12+ games I've missed/been waiting for holidays to play.

[Bidoofdude]

PC or Nintendo for me. I absolutely HATE analogs and their lack of accuracy. I always hate how things spring back into place.

[millhouse]

Snagged a PS4. 1080p gaming is now a reality, it's smaller than the XBONE and it worked right away instead of being DOA (like my mate's XBONE).

Besides the usual network issues that go with launch, I dig it. Wont be disconnecting my PS3 though!

[griffin]

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[llamatron]

PS4 all the way. I won't get one for at least a year though.

PC gaming is too expensive to keep up with (endless upgrades) and takes up too much space (don't have room for a desktop).

I have no interest in playing multiplayer or anything online. I don't want trophies, I don't want achievements, I just want a console to sit there, shut the F@*# up and let me play games. By myself.

PS4 appears to have better hardware, less DRM always online garbage and better exclusives.

[kup]

PS4 all the way. I won't get one for at least a year though.

PC gaming is too expensive to keep up with (endless upgrades) and takes up too much space (don't have room for a desktop).

I have no interest in playing multiplayer or anything online. I don't want trophies, I don't want achievements, I just want a console to sit there, shut the F@*# up and let me play games. By myself.

PS4 appears to have better hardware, less DRM always online garbage and better exclusives.

People who say that PCs need "endless upgrades" are not doing it right :rolleyes:

I only upgrade my PC like once every 3-4 years. Occasionally within that time I will upgrade some RAM which is pretty cheap. During it's life span, I am able to play all games at full graphics.

The PC I have now is close to 3 years and only recently did I upgrade the graphics card. That only happened because that card was already over 4 years old.

I'll side with Tywin Lannister on this one..

[Trent]

PS4 all the way. I won't get one for at least a year though.

PC gaming is too expensive to keep up with (endless upgrades) and takes up too much space (don't have room for a desktop).

I have no interest in playing multiplayer or anything online. I don't want trophies, I don't want achievements, I just want a console to sit there, shut the F@*# up and let me play games. By myself.

PS4 appears to have better hardware, less DRM always online garbage and better exclusives.


This is pretty much me. I don't want a desktop and the space it takes up.

[kup]

This is pretty much me. I don't want a desktop and the space it takes up.

My lounge room gaming PC is smaller than the PS3 :rolleyes:

[llamatron]

People who say that PCs need "endless upgrades" are not doing it right :rolleyes:

I only upgrade my PC like once every 3-4 years. Occasionally within that time I will upgrade some RAM which is pretty cheap. During it's life span, I am able to play all games at full graphics.

The PC I have now is close to 3 years and only recently did I upgrade the graphics card. That only happened because that card was already over 4 years old.

I'll side with Tywin Lannister on this one..

Consoles are now heading towards a projected 10 year life cycle...

PC gaming does require upgrading, even if it's only every few years. The costs do add up. And then there's occasional issues with drivers, hardware compatibility, etc. Consoles have set hardware that developers can optimize exclusively for. PC gaming takes too much time, effort, costs, maintenance and space for me, in my current circumstances.

[1orion2many]

I enjoy my PC including the upgrading as it's all part of the hobby for me. I do agree with Kup as my old PC was 5 years old before I put this one together. If I was going to get a new console I'd lean more towards XBox as it has the games I prefer over PS4 titles.

[Trent]

My lounge room gaming PC is smaller than the PS3 :rolleyes:

Yes but that is only a relatively recent development. I used to be a PC gamer, but I lost interest. Mainly because I don't care what is inside the thing. I don't want to have to worry about whether I need more RAM or whether its time to upgrade the graphics card. I don't want to have driver conflicts and whatnot. I don't want to balance a keyboard and mouse on my Lap either. I want to slouch on my lounge in an incredibly unergonomic position and only have a controller to worry about. (Yes I'm aware that you can get controllers for PC, but that kind of defeats the purpose).

And I thought about getting a PC again and the only reason I could think of was to play FreeSpace 2 again. The single, greatest PC game ever made. But even that couldn't get me back into it.

I understand that people prefer PC gaming and I even know why. But it ain't for me anymore.

[llamatron]

I understand that people prefer PC gaming and I even know why. But it ain't for me anymore.

Totally, same boat here.

I was exclusively a PC gamer from about 1996 - 2008. I used to be vehemently opposed to the concept of playing a shooter without a mouse and keyboard.

[Darthprimus]

Loving my x1. seems a better line up of games coming also. Add me as a friend if anyone interested for some BF4. tag: Bloodgeon333

[kup]

Yes but that is only a relatively recent development. I used to be a PC gamer, but I lost interest. Mainly because I don't care what is inside the thing. I don't want to have to worry about whether I need more RAM or whether its time to upgrade the graphics card. I don't want to have driver conflicts and whatnot. I don't want to balance a keyboard and mouse on my Lap either. I want to slouch on my lounge in an incredibly unergonomic position and only have a controller to worry about. (Yes I'm aware that you can get controllers for PC, but that kind of defeats the purpose).

And I thought about getting a PC again and the only reason I could think of was to play FreeSpace 2 again. The single, greatest PC game ever made. But even that couldn't get me back into it.

I understand that people prefer PC gaming and I even know why. But it ain't for me anymore.

No it's not. What you are talking about is stuff that is only the case if one doesn't bother to explore what the PC has to offer and locks themselves to their own perceptions. The small factor PC cases have been around for several years. Yes, they have reduced in price and size but originally, they were no bigger than a PS3 or Xbox. An upper Medium End gaming PC would also not cost you more than what one of the Next Gen consoles do at launch with only minor upgrades required every 4-6 years. You only need a whole new set up when technology has vastly revolutionized that's only like every 8-10 years when you have to upgrade the MB and CPU. It can actually cost much cheaper if you build it yourself! Of course, if you go for some BS like Alienware, it will cost you more but that's an individual's choice, not representative of real world. It would be like saying 'Cars are too expensive, just look at the cost of that Lamborghini'

Who says you need a keyboard and mouse to play PC games? The PC is so flexible that you can play games with anything including PS3 controllers and even Wiimotes! And that's not counting the thousands of USB controllers already available, wireless or otherwise. Yes, most PC gamers prefer the keyboard and mouse set up but it's not as if that is the only option to play PC games. I personally prefer the KB&mouse set up as it is infinitely more precise than a controller, specially for 'free aim' shooters. That is why I am looking forward to the Steam game controller which appears to be aiming to revolutionise the current and somewhat outdated controller technology to bring the precision of the keyboard and mouse into the lounge room.

If you know what you are doing, in the long run, a PC costs less and requires a lot less stuffing around than a console does. My PC runs awesomely with little maintenance, less so than the PS3. It is also vastly superior technically and at least on par with the Next Gen and I only have medium end hardware in it.

I am not a console hater as I do own a PS3, but I find the PC to be a much more superior and flexible gaming platform than any console. Cheaper in the long run too with less issues. When there are multiplatform games, the PC wins every time when it comes to crisp and smooth graphics so the PS3 is only there for the exclusives. Even so called 'poor ports' like WFC look a lot better on the PC than on the PS3 on a 1080p TV and I own both releases to compare first hand without a bias of 'you only say that because that's what you own'. On a 2560×1600 screen, the PC blows it out of the water and that goes for any multi platform game.

For me, the PC is the gaming system that rules them all. If it wasn't for exclusives, the console would not even be there as my TV PC has a bluray drive.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Pointless argument... the unavoidable truth of gaming is that exclusive, good games are on multiple machines and if you want to play them all, you need the machine it runs on. Until the PC emulates it 10 years later anyway :D

[kup]

Pointless argument... the unavoidable truth of gaming is that exclusive, good games are on multiple machines and if you want to play them all, you need the machine it runs on. Until the PC emulates it 10 years later anyway :D

Dolphin became arguably better than the Wii during it's commercial life ;)

But that is an isolated exception. You are generally correct, emulators take a very, very long time to mature. You'll be lucky if an emulator becomes playable during the next generation.

However we do have lots of multi-platform games and for me, the PC is uncontested when comparing the multiplatform releases due to much higher technical capability/flexibility. A regret that I have is that I bought Castlevania Lords of Shadow for PS3 early in the year thinking that it was a console only game but then I saw a PC release - doh! Missed out on playing at ubber high-res and crisp graphics.

PS3 had some damn good exclusive games. Much better than what I have seen from Xbox 360. That's what motivated me to get the PS3. Any game on the Xbox which I would be interested in, already has a superior PC release.

The Wii is a weird exception. Nintendo exclusive game franchises like Zelda, Mario and so forth are excellent and I have been a fan for most of my life. However Nintendo has produced pretty technically crappy consoles for the last couple of generations. Thankfully, the Dolphin emulator matured enough to surpass the Wii limitations within it's life span and made owning a Wii irrelevant. Playing Twilight Princess in full 1080p is freaking sweet and so is Donkey Kong Country returns or Mario Galaxy. On top of that, Dolphin also flawlessly emulates the GameCube but I am yet to experience that first hand (will soon ;) )

I have heard so many bad things about he Wii-U that I am keeping distance until I see what happens. Apparently is in danger of loosing the current console wars and dropping out due to less than expected sales. A generation without an active Nintendo consoles does not sound right to me but they have been mismanaging it by alienating the core fan base the last few gens.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Really, apart from in the very beginning with NES, buying a Nintendo machine was always mostly for the exclusives. To varying degrees it changed over time; when the Mega Drive took a lot of the market share, there were plenty of 3rd party exclusives to be had there. N64 if not for Rare, which was basically Nintendo back then anyway, would have been entirely supported by Nintendo 1st party. Gamecube had a few notable 3rd party exclusives but by comparison, PS2 and even Xbox had way more. The Wii for a time was getting a lot of support more like NES/SNES era, but given the gulf in hardware specs, there were massive amounts of 3rd party exclusive stuff on PS3 & 360. A lot of Wii's support was also shovelware like PS2, because it had the biggest install base.

Even though Wii U is looking like a commercial flop, i think it's highly unlikely they'll discontinue it (ie, do a Sega). Nintendo know dropping support will reduce consumer confidence in whatever comes next as well.

Though it's true their options are looking limited, i'd say it's most likely they'll just keep on hammering out the exceptional 1st party games they always do, hope the install base grows such that they can get some decent 3rd party stuff... and just ride the Wii U out until the market will accept a new console, and try again. They've proven over and over that their software alone can at least sustain a console. Either way, buying now isn't that bad an idea since typically a console's best years are around end of year 2 into year 3, when development is starting to get into gear.

Personally, i don't consider consoles based on their price at launch or afterwards... if someone were concerned about price then they ought to be thinking long term, like how much am i going to spend total on hardware & games, over the course of this system's life. In that respect, you'd almost want less good games to come out!

The problem of buying multiple consoles and opening doors to all the exclusives is obviously that you have too much choice! I'm doing a balancing act right now with 3DS, Vita & Wii U stuff. Some would argue both Vita and Wii U don't have many games period, but couple them with 3DS, and i am flooded with so many high quality games i can't even get around to playing half of them, and i'm spending a bloody fortune!

[Gutsman Heavy]

Nintendo won't drop the Wii U, they make money off their hardware. Compared to MS & Sony who sell at a loss.
Xbox has yet to turn a profit for MS. Sony's gaming division hasn't made money in years.

It won't print Wii money, but it'll turn a pretty profit.

Oh and re: the Dreamcast, it didn't kill Sega, it just wasn't successful enough to save them from years of costly blunders (32x/CD/Saturn).

[Trent]

The problem of buying multiple consoles and opening doors to all the exclusives is obviously that you have too much choice! I'm doing a balancing act right now with 3DS, Vita & Wii U stuff. Some would argue both Vita and Wii U don't have many games period, but couple them with 3DS, and i am flooded with so many high quality games i can't even get around to playing half of them, and i'm spending a bloody fortune!

I only have a PS3 and even then I can't get the time to play all the games I want. I still have yet to play: GTA 4, GTA 5, Force Unleashed 2, Resistance 3, Assassins Creed 3, Black Flag, DMC, Macross 30, Metal Gear Rising and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. There are a ton more. Hence why I'm still a few years away from even considering a new console. The good thing is by the. The price will have dropped, the playlist will be good and the graphics will start to be in full swing.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Nintendo won't drop the Wii U, they make money off their hardware. Compared to MS & Sony who sell at a loss.
Xbox has yet to turn a profit for MS. Sony's gaming division hasn't made money in years.

I know that's true for past consoles but wasn't the Gamepad responsible for not making a profit on hardware this time around?


Oh and re: the Dreamcast, it didn't kill Sega, it just wasn't successful enough to save them from years of costly blunders (32x/CD/Saturn).

Ah by my Sega reference i actually meant the 32X being a total stopgap before the Saturn!

[1orion2many]

Nintendo won't drop the Wii U, they make money off their hardware. Compared to MS & Sony who sell at a loss.
Xbox has yet to turn a profit for MS. Sony's gaming division hasn't made money in years.

It won't print Wii money, but it'll turn a pretty profit.

Oh and re: the Dreamcast, it didn't kill Sega, it just wasn't successful enough to save them from years of costly blunders (32x/CD/Saturn).

MMmmmm Dreamcast one of my favourite consoles:D

[shokwave2]

Every console Nintendo releases is said to be a failure by the industry experts. But every time it hangs in there, probably with a lot of help from the A1 titles such as the Mario's and Zelda's. The Wii only done so well due to the casual games (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, shovelware) which got everyone from baby to grandma buying a console. Although there's a lot of under-rated games on the Wii.

The Gamecube didn't do too good due to the bad choice of media, the 1.4gb mini-discs. Only chosen by Nintendo to combat piracy, which in the end became easy to rip. The hardware was capable of making great looking games for that generation, just look at SW Rogue Leader, Mario Sunshine and Zelda Twilight Princess.

The Wii U is in that stage were for the next year or two the big games will be released. Super Mario (just arrived), Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, and maybe one or two surprises (hopefully a Metroid game). After that we'll probably see ports from other consoles, a few HD remakes and then cheap shovelware. The Wii U has potential, but it needs the big games and third party support. It also needs games that utilise the Gamepad like no other game has done so far. It needs a game changer to make other console fan-boys sit up and take notice, or to get jealous enough to go buy one.

I own a Wii U and all last generation consoles (X360, PS3 & Wii), along with a 2DS, Gamecube, N64, SNES. I have always bought the newest Nintendo console on launch day/night, only because Nintendo know how to make something different and start new trends that other consoles eventually try to copy later down the track (motion controls with the Kinect and Move & 2nd screen gameplay now showing up with tablet integration).

Nintendo know how to make the best games in gaming, no question. Just play Super Mario Galaxy or a Zelda game. But if they want to stay in the game for the next generation (in about 5-7 years) they need to turn their console into a media centre which can play blu-ray/dvd's, download movies, record gameplay, etc, everything pretty much what MS and Sony are doing. Or build a kick-ass handheld with 1080p, movie watching and phone calling capabilities.

[nexusnixx]

How about Neo Geo?

[kurdt_the_goat]

Would have saved all my pocket money for one if they actually sold them here! Don't even know of anywhere that had imports for sale back then. Only time i ever saw one in WA was at a video rental store, where the owner always had imported games and consoles somehow.

I had my fair share of plays on the old 4 and 6 multi game arcade units though!
One day i'll pick up a console in Japan, but maybe a CD variant since the original carts are still damn expensive and also a counterfeit minefield.

[1orion2many]

There was an importer in Subiaco who sold the Neo Geo with good game support and a lot of others. He went under around the time of the Playstation 1 3DO

[llamatron]

Xbox One vs PS4 vs Neo Geo - I choose Mega Drive!

[kup]

Xbox One vs PS4 vs Neo Geo - I choose Mega Drive!

SNES every time. Nintendo once ruled all existence.

[UltraMarginal]

Well if we're going to get like that.

the most hours I've ever spent on any game system would be my original Monochrome screen Game Boy. I enjoyed some of those games so much I've got them on an emulater on my mobile phone.

[Trent]

SNES every time. Nintendo once ruled all existence.

Yep. SNES was king.

[Gutsman Heavy]

pff, got nothing on the power of BLAST PROCESSING!

[5FDP]

I'm not going to be in the market for one of these for another 2-3 years so I'm interested to read peoples thoughts on both, although I am a Sony fan since the PS1.


SNES every time. Nintendo once ruled all existence.

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