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BigTransformerTrev
13th December 2013, 01:20 PM
What is the Primary Reason for the toys you collect?


Just thought it might be interesting to see ‘why’ people collect the particular figures they do. As Griffin pointed out in another thread, over 400 official Transformers toys have been released this year, and I don’t know of anyone who got every single one. So why did you pick the ones that you did?


Please note this poll is about the Primary Reason you choose to collect the figures you do. However if you would like to list Secondary Reasons I’ve put provision for that in the thread as well :)



So for me:

The Primary Reason behind the toys I select to collect:
•G1 Homage: I’m a sucker for anything that is a new version of a G1 character. My love for G1 has never abated and anything that extends and builds upon the classic characters used gets a massive tick from me! Hence my disapproval when they have used G1 names willy-nilly (Beast Wars Inferno, Energon Mirage, Bayverse Bonecrusher etc).


The Secondary Reasons behind the toys I select to collect:•If it’s G1. If it’s G1 I wants it! I wants it now!
•The quality/complexity of the figure. There were a LOT of movie toys I bypassed just because of their inferior nature or they were far too simplistic for my liking.
•Military Vehicles: I’m a sucker for tanks and helicopters in particular. Due to being in a millions year old war, I’m always surprised that more TF’s don’t disguise themselves in this fashion so their alt-mode is also combat effective.
•Wanting to complete a specific set. Hence why even though I hated the figure, I gave up this year and bought G1 Blot so I could finally complete my G1 Terrorcon set.





So what is the motivation for the Transformers you deem worthy to add to your collection?

Megatron
13th December 2013, 01:54 PM
Ohh this one's easy! - Love for a specific character (you want every Shockwave, Soundwave, Megatron, Starscream and Jazz, in no particular order.) 100%. :D

There aren't really any other or secondary reasons for me. :D:o All other characters I have in my collection (except for some of the very first ones I got), such as loose ones that I might use in photo comics, were selected randomly due to what was available at the time, or that I received as gifts.

Though with my primary motivation in mind, I am a sucker for figures that are rare and hard to come by. :D:)

Good question.

Sinnertwin
13th December 2013, 01:56 PM
I have a few apart from the see it, like it, buy it way of doing things

Specific Characters:
G1/G1 inspired Prime. If it has blue legs, a red torso & transforms into a flatnosed truck, i want it. Same goes with TFP Airachnid, Breakdown & Sinnertwin.

Toylines:
TFP Legion Class, 30th Anniversary Generations, TRU Commemorative Series, TFC Henkei Decepticons, which i keep sealed. All i need is a Lucky Draw Galvatron to complete that line up.

Homages:
I dont have all of the G1 figures & have no intention of completing that series. All of the figures i want, i'm close to owning & everything else would be buying to say that i have a complete collection. If i find the new interpretations interesting enough, even though i dont have or want the character its inspired by, i may buy it.

CBratron
13th December 2013, 02:30 PM
My main selection criteria would be the media they are refer to. My current TFs not in storage. (http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/19/yrbo.jpg)

Assembling a classics roster for the animated movie (so far just Autobots but Uniquetoys Sharky and Maniaking will probably start my Decepticons). They don't have to be Hasbro/Takara. It's classics so liberties need be taken on how screen accurate they are.

And my Prime collection is whoever appears on screen. I didn't buy any of the Beast Hunter spikeformers and except for Predaking, I didn't get any of the dragonformers. And it's not just the toys themselves that are important to the look. I'm sanding and painting Shapeways weapons for Megatron and Breakdown so they'll look better.

MayzaPrime
13th December 2013, 02:32 PM
I wish I could select more than one option :p

SMHFConvoy
13th December 2013, 03:36 PM
I wish I could select more than one option :p

Same here. As someone who mods their figures I'll buy a figure and then may buy a second to be customised later. But usually I'm looking for a decent representation of a character.

The_Damned
13th December 2013, 04:43 PM
my primary reason is "is it a transformer?"

BigTransformerTrev
13th December 2013, 05:08 PM
I wish I could select more than one option :p


Same here.

That's why I put in my initial post to feel free to list a bunch of your secondary reasons - as many as ya like :D But the question is 'What is your primary, numerous-uno, tippy-top, all-time number 1 motivating factor'. Well... it's not phrased like that but you get the idea :p


To be honest, I had trouble myself and I came up with the damn thing ;)

DELTAprime
13th December 2013, 06:02 PM
I have in the past collected toys from every series with toys I like.

Now my rules are:

Must be G1 character with canon of some sort confirming they are in the G1 Continuity (any G1 continuity including Beast Era and IDW). Since FOC is Aligned continuity (sorry Trev but the events don't fit into G1 at all) I was going to skip it till they got repurposed by IDW into IDW G1 because homages are not enough for me.

Or must fit into my character sub displays Optimus/Rodimus, Seekers, Megatron, Soundwave or Bumblebee. In these the figures can be from any Continuity but must represent a character of the same name.

I still have an RID, Cybertron and Movie display but won't be adding to them.

M-bot
13th December 2013, 07:58 PM
My motivations have shifted since I started collecting again, in 2007, as an adult.

Say what you want about the Bay-verse movies, but they reignited the passion. I started wanting the '07 movie cast, and limited myself to Autobots, in order to place some sort of cap on my spending. My wife bought me a Universe voyager, and through that, I discovered the classics range.

Since my first love is G1 (a child of the '80's), I decided I wanted as much of the classics series, again, just the Autobots. Now, I'm on to MP's, from MP08 onwards, with some third party figures as well, Autobots and Decepticons. I've also broken my "Autobots only" rule with the '86 animated movie cast as well.

So I voted for G1 homage as the primary reason. I'm not too keen on expanding my Bay-verse figures, so not sure what I'll do when AOA comes out.

Probably buy more Transformers!;):)

Omega Metro
13th December 2013, 08:08 PM
I just collect 1 (the best interpretation of a 'classics') toy for each character as general rule. I really don't see the point in have 20 Optimuses, 100 Bumblebees and 5 Prowls. So I picked 'other'.:)

Sharky
13th December 2013, 08:09 PM
I Picked Other,

im not limited to specifics or particulars if i like it ill get it. for the most part.

rare cheap expensive odd new old characters one and all.....

GoktimusPrime
13th December 2013, 08:55 PM
The nearest match for me, generally speaking, would be "The figure is of sufficient quality and complexity" -- i.e. if the toy itself appeals to me. Considering that most Transformers toys come out as toys first, I would often make my decision to get or skip a toy before I'm exposed to it in other media like shows or comics.


Hence my disapproval when they have used G1 names willy-nilly (Beast Wars Inferno, Energon Mirage, Bayverse Bonecrusher etc).
Inferno was a pretty damn good reuse of a G1 name. :D G1 Inferno got his name because he loved extinguishing fires (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/a2/BlasterBlues-InfernoSpray.jpg), BW Inferno because he loved making fires (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/af/ComingoftheFuzors1_Inferno_flamethrower.jpg)! (and he's just a lovable character in his own right ;))

"Burn in the fires of Inferno!"

To be fair, name reuses happened in G1 as well. We had two entirely unrelated Transformers who shared the same name such as:
+ Barrage (the Deluxe Insecticon rhino beetle)
+ Barrage (the Autobot lunar exploration vehicle fore)
- Lightspeed (the futuristic sports car Technobot)
- Lightspeed (the Ferrari F40 Autobot)
* Afterburner (the "Tron" bike Technobot)
* Afterburner (the Lockheed F-104G Starfighter Decepticon Skyscorcher)
etc.
So even keeping with just G1 itself, you do come across some name reuses amongst completely unrelated characters. It's almost as if Hasbro didn't think we'd notice! ;) :p


•The quality/complexity of the figure. There were a LOT of movie toys I bypassed just because of their inferior nature or they were far too simplistic for my liking.
Simplistic can be okay if it's done well, and complexity can be not so good if the transformation isn't very intuitive and detracts from the fun of transforming the toy (e.g. MP Megatron, Big Convoy, BT/ALT Grimlock/Wheeljack etc. <---JMO). On the other hand you can have some really simple but incredibly fun transformations too. I really quite love Flipchangers. :D


•Wanting to complete a specific set. Hence why even though I hated the figure, I gave up this year and bought G1 Blot so I could finally complete my G1 Terrorcon set.
Yeah... I sometimes do this too. TFP Deluxe Smokescreen is an example of this. Only got him because he's a character on the show and I wanted a complete set of TFP show characters. At first I got the Arms Micron figure (redeco of Knockout), then I got the Beast Hunters (TakTOM) version. Both figures really aren't very good at all. (-_-) Thankfully I didn't pay above RRP for either of them (I actually got AM Smokescreen on sale :o). But AM Frenzy and Rumble are among my favourite TFP figures and they don't even appear in the show... which is probably why they're better designed than most other TFP Deluxes since they're not encumbered by having to adhere to a pre-existing show design. ;) FE Cliffjumper is probably the most impressive of the show-based TFP toys IMO.

My two most expensive "to complete a set" purchases I made were:
+ Supreme Cheetor ---> $100. The stupid thing was that I already had the smaller and cheaper Mega version! :rolleyes: What a ridiculous purchase.
+ ROTF Combiner Class Devastator ---> $98. What a rip off. The stupid thing is that I already had the smaller and cheaper Legends figures. But I wanted a Devastator that was closer to scale w/ my larger movieverse toys.
Thankfully these kinds of purchases don't happen too often. :o

I have bought a Transformer once just for the alt mode -- Universe Overcharge. A repaint of an underwhelming Mini-Con, but he's a taxi! Fantastic alt mode concept which really deserves to be revisited and done properly. :) But it really appeals to that "robots in disguise" element of Transformers to me. :D It only cost me a few dollars though. ;)

Paulbot
13th December 2013, 09:26 PM
My primary would have to be "The figure is of sufficient quality and complexity" too. Secondary would be series. I tend to just get the main action figure lines - Beast Hunters and Generations this year - but only ones that meet the first reason or ones that are G1 homage (I got the Predacon Terrorcons I'd otherwise skip) and show cast.

lancalot
14th December 2013, 02:25 AM
for me I chose "It’s a new figure that pays homage to a pre-existing toy/character " because mainly if it a good representation of the g1 character I tend to purchase it ...which mainly are the masterpiece line and some third party stuff as well .....

Jinto
14th December 2013, 06:30 AM
For me it's a combination of a character I can connect with, ie: I enjoyed the media they were in; and decent complexity / detail.
I will go back and pick up less show accurate figures from a line I have a particular fondness for, like Beast Wars.

Magnus
15th December 2013, 09:03 PM
I voted for appearance in comics/characters/movies/games - I generally buy figures of what I saw onscreen, which is why G1-homaging and other repaints of Movieverse figures never appealed to me.

The exception would be a few of the Classicsverse figures, but again, that's because the ones I've bought were updated versions of characters which have had onscreen appearances.

BigTransformerTrev
16th December 2013, 12:01 PM
Inferno was a pretty damn good reuse of a G1 name. :D G1 Inferno got his name because he loved extinguishing fires (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/a2/BlasterBlues-InfernoSpray.jpg), BW Inferno because he loved making fires (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/af/ComingoftheFuzors1_Inferno_flamethrower.jpg)! (and he's just a lovable character in his own right ;))

"Burn in the fires of Inferno!"

To be fair, name reuses happened in G1 as well. We had two entirely unrelated Transformers who shared the same name such as:
+ Barrage (the Deluxe Insecticon rhino beetle)
+ Barrage (the Autobot lunar exploration vehicle fore)
- Lightspeed (the futuristic sports car Technobot)
- Lightspeed (the Ferrari F40 Autobot)
* Afterburner (the "Tron" bike Technobot)
* Afterburner (the Lockheed F-104G Starfighter Decepticon Skyscorcher)
etc.
So even keeping with just G1 itself, you do come across some name reuses amongst completely unrelated characters. It's almost as if Hasbro didn't think we'd notice! ;) :p





Yeah, but as someone that had been introduced to Beast Wars by randomly flicking through Foxtel channels, I didn't know at the time they were other characters that just happened to have the same name. All I knew was that suddenly 'Optimus' was a hairy monkey, 'Silverbolt' was a dog-bird thing, 'Rampage' was a crab and 'Inferno' was an ant. A friggin ant instead of a Fire Truck?!? It made me see red I tells you! :mad: Of course now I know better, but I still think it wouldn't have been a massive undertaking to just think up some new, as-unyet trademarked names ;)

Don't forget Skydive from your list. Back in the day that was the only name where I had two G1 bots that shared it. Of course IDW fixed that by just killing Predators Sky Dive and leaving him on a junk pile :rolleyes: I only just got Technobots Lightspeed to fight it out with Motorvators Lightspeed last month :) - I'd love to see Gripper turn up in the comics, always liked the toys rubber tyres :)

1orion2many
16th December 2013, 03:58 PM
Whatever takes my fancy:o:D

GoktimusPrime
16th December 2013, 10:18 PM
Yeah, but as someone that had been introduced to Beast Wars by randomly flicking through Foxtel channels, I didn't know at the time they were other characters that just happened to have the same name. All I knew was that suddenly 'Optimus' was a hairy monkey, 'Silverbolt' was a dog-bird thing, 'Rampage' was a crab and 'Inferno' was an ant. A friggin ant instead of a Fire Truck?!? It made me see red I tells you! :mad:
If it makes your past self feel any better, he is a fire ant, who aside from having a venomous sting, can also spit acid!. ;)


Of course now I know better, but I still think it wouldn't have been a massive undertaking to just think up some new, as-unyet trademarked names ;)
I quite like Inferno's Italian name, "Formicula," from the Latin word for ant "Formicae" (ants are members of the Formicidae family). Although I don't know how cool it would sound to Italian fans (would it be as seemingly 'lame' as "Rhinox," "Cheetor" and "Tarantulas" is to English speakers I wonder). Cheetor's French name is pretty damn awesome though... Vélocitor. ;)

DELTAprime
16th December 2013, 11:41 PM
Vélocitor. ;)

Sounds much better than Cheetor. To this day I still think that name is lame even tho I like the character.

GoktimusPrime
17th December 2013, 10:00 AM
^Totally agree. As much as I love Beast Wars, I gotta admit that some of the names are absolutely horrid. But that's what happens when you get toy execs to come up w/ names instead of comic book writers. And there have been some pretty bad post-BW TF names too, such as Scattor (Scattorshot, Scattorbrain), Wind Sheer, Skid-Z, Tankor etc. (-_-)

BigTransformerTrev
17th December 2013, 10:08 AM
^Totally agree. As much as I love Beast Wars, I gotta admit that some of the names are absolutely horrid. But that's what happens when you get toy execs to come up w/ names instead of comic book writers. And there have been some pretty bad post-BW TF names too, such as Scattor (Scattorshot, Scattorbrain), Wind Sheer, Skid-Z, Tankor etc. (-_-)


That'll have to be the next thread topic. We've had 'What is the stupidest alt-mode' and 'What is the silliest alt-mode'. Now we need to have 'What is the stupidest/silliest' Transformer name? Of course there are a million damn contenders for that coveted prize ;)

doublespy
17th December 2013, 10:41 AM
A combination of engineering, character design and media appearance, and homage factor.:D

That's why I've never been a completionist until the new Masterpiece line. Engineering is the first priority though. For the things I don't get I'd still figure out the transformation one way or another (my main reason to watch "video reviews")

Sinnertwin
17th December 2013, 10:57 AM
That'll have to be the next thread topic. We've had 'What is the stupidest alt-mode' and 'What is the silliest alt-mode'. Now we need to have 'What is the stupidest/silliest' Transformer name? Of course there are a million damn contenders for that coveted prize ;)

That's an easy one for me, anything that ends in -or. It reminds me of names i'd see on the Gobots or He Man figures. The TF franchise has seen some corkers over the years

5FDP
17th December 2013, 01:58 PM
I voted 'The toy/character appears in comics/cartoons/movies/games' :confused: For me, how the character was portrayed in the cartoons was the biggest selling point. An example of this would be Rodimus Prime and how he came across in season 3 of G1. His character annoyed me to no end and because of this, I passed on the toy. It also helped that most of the season 3 / movie toys were based on their animation models ;)

GoktimusPrime
17th December 2013, 02:30 PM
When I first came across the toys, they hadn't appeared in canon yet... I actually didn't realise that Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime were the same character. But while Hot Rod always impressed me as a neat toy, Rodimus Prime was always underwhelming. I knew some friends who had Rodimus Prime and I played with theirs... but didn't get one for myself. I later ended up getting one for free as my friends started "growing out" of Transformers and giving me their toys for free, then later I got the reissue. But yeah, the lack of appeal of Rodimus Prime primarily came from the inherent lameness of the toy. Hot Rod has a more articulated and better looking robot mode... Rodimus Prime is more like "half" a Transformer (i.e. it's mostly the upper part of the robot that transforms). On the other hand I quite like Hubcap and he never had any canonical appearances in Anglophone continuity during the G1 period! So yeah, the appeal of a toy is usually/mostly down to the quality of the actual figure itself. :o :)

Skullcruncher
17th December 2013, 02:30 PM
I voted 'The toy/character appears in comics/cartoons/movies/games' :confused: For me, how the character was portrayed in the cartoons was the biggest selling point. An example of this would be Rodimus Prime and how he came across in season 3 of G1. His character annoyed me to no end and because of this, I passed on the toy. It also helped that most of the season 3 / movie toys were based on their animation models ;)

Most of the main autobot cast annoyed me in series 3. Rodimus, Kup, Grimlock who seemed even more of a dimwit - except when he made the technobots, that was something. But only Ultra Magnus still annoys me to this day - in fact I am going to sell my only remaining Magnus (myclone not counted) in my 2014 sales thread :D

Oh I voted era of the toy - G1 as my primary motivation.

UltraMarginal
17th December 2013, 04:30 PM
This is a tough question, I've been thinking about this for a couple days.

I'd be happy to say

YEP.

thats my motivation, :D.

I'm honestly not sure what my "Primary" Motivation is?
I bought a lot of the prime stuff because it was in the show, I bought other prime stuff because it was a mold I didn't have yet even though it wasn't in the show.

I buy Masterpiece because it's G1 and interesting engineering and sexy alternate modes, especially the recent cars for their alt modes, and the early seeker molds.

I bought most of the movie stuff because it was on-screen but I bought other versions because they were molds that I didn't have, and in some cases it was a coincidence that it Homaged a G1 character. There was also a lot of Movie stuff that I didn't get because I didn't like the design of the robot mode (an example would be the drones that were in the first movie game.) I bought Skyhammer because of the awesome robot and vehicle mode.

Most Generations stuff that I buy is a G1 modernisation, I draw the line at repaints that are there more to re-use the mold than to represent the character. If they did 4 more repaints of wreck-gar with differnt heads, I'd buy them all though.

I bought Alternator/Binaltech that I thought was a nice modernisation of the G1 character. I didn't get Grimlock because I had Wheeljack and I thought the car and alt mode much better suited Wheeljack. I didn't get the Prime mold because I had MP-01 and I only bought the Nemesis Prime mold so I could experience the mold and I found it for $20.

I buy Encore/reissue G1 figures that I never had, or to be a handleable version of one of my original toys that has seen better days. Very rarely I buy a vintage G1 toy if I have the cash, and see it for a price that I am happy with. I would oneday like to have a full set of G1 but being that it's already been 30 years since I started collecting them, I'm not in that much of a hurry to get them all, I'd probably rather reissues over slightly worn originals for the remainder of that part of my collection.

I generally only buy Third party if it enhances some part of my existing collection. the Fansproject Headmasters look like being an exception to that rule though.

G1 was my introduction to Transformers and it does factor heavily into my collecting but it is often not a primary motivation for modern purchases.

Based on my above discussion it's looking like my purchase motivation is primarily media focussed with a high secondary motivation being toy engineering/design and G1 homage.

GoktimusPrime
17th December 2013, 09:49 PM
Most of the main autobot cast annoyed me in series 3. Rodimus, Kup, Grimlock who seemed even more of a dimwit - except when he made the technobots, that was something. But only Ultra Magnus still annoys me to this day - in fact I am going to sell my only remaining Magnus (myclone not counted) in my 2014 sales thread :D
All these characters were so much better in the G1 comics. :)

Skullcruncher
18th December 2013, 02:33 PM
All these characters were so much better in the G1 comics. :)

Kids that read comics at my school got the crap beaten out of them.

GoktimusPrime
18th December 2013, 09:17 PM
If I ever gave a crap about what other kids at school thought of me, I would've stopped playing with toys, reading comics and watching cartoons a long time ago. Thankfully that never happened.

Jay-Tron
18th December 2013, 10:56 PM
I'll keep it simple, the TF's I choose to collect is based on how cool I think they look... in both robot form and vehicle form.

SuspectimusPrime
24th December 2013, 12:57 PM
That's an easy one for me, anything that ends in -or. It reminds me of names i'd see on the Gobots or He Man figures. The TF franchise has seen some corkers over the years

Looks like you won't be falling head over heels to acquire the (Hasbro/Fun Pub's) evil Decepticon CORKOR (http://laurajul.dk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Corkers-Robots-Reddish-Studio-1.jpg), who's maniacal deeds includes inefficiently producing Energon cubes by syphoning the native aromas from wines; leaving a harmless, however entirely unpleasant momentary experience.