need help looking for beast wars characters

[Tommy K]

ive started my collection of beastwars characters again, i already have tripedacus, aramadillo, dinobot(thanxs gok lol) and optimus prime but the ones im looking for are

maximals:
transmetal rat trap
transmetal rhinox
depth charge

predacons:
tarantulas
inferno
spittor
transmetal megatron
transmetal dinobot
rampage
quickstrike

im not aiming to get all of them just as many as i can and im willing to buy some from the parramatta fair aswell but if you wanna sell any of your bw collection, and if your in nsw ill be able to pay during a meet up, thats my regulations lol

[dirge]

Don't get the Hasbro Transmetal Megatron. It suffers from Gold Plastic Syndrome something fierce, although in this instance it's the dark brown plastic that's affected. After a few years it crumbles. Spend the extra cash and get a Takara Metals Megatron, which used a different plastic.

Good luck with the list (:

[Tommy K]

Good luck with the list (:

heh does this call for a show called "my name is kuzzy" ?lol thanx for the info

[kup]

You missed Verno's two sales not too long ago. He had all those figures and more selling at reasonable prices.

Here is a link to his website. I have bought many of my large BW toys from him:

http://vabws.tripod.com/vbwea/

[roller]

er i have Transmetal dinobot wants as well

well before you my young apprentice

so um yeah

i get the first one:) if a spare ever emerges

[Tommy K]

actually roller have you seen rapticon, its a repaint of dinobot and i think he looks alright aswell

[Verno]

You missed Verno's two sales not too long ago. He had all those figures and more selling at reasonable prices.

Here is a link to his website. I have bought many of my large BW toys from him:

http://vabws.tripod.com/vbwea/

Cheers for the free plug Kup :p but I'm actually out of Stock. Only thing I've got left is a MOSC Scarem that didn't sell (I wonder why :p)

If only you'd come to me a few months ago Kuzzy, I had.... yes all of those for sale.

I'll need to update the site, or take it down.

[GoktimusPrime]

actually roller have you seen rapticon, its a repaint of dinobot and i think he looks alright aswell
Yeah but he's an entirely different character. (-_-)

[dirge]

I have a Rapticon (picked it up when I was in Canada a few years back - never reached our shores). It's a nice repaint, I prefer the colours to those of TMII Dinobot, but as Gok alluded to, totally different character.

[Autocon]

someone sayBEAST WARS!!!!

looking for mints ^_^

thank you thank you, thank you very much:D

[griffin]

Don't get the Hasbro Transmetal Megatron. It suffers from Gold Plastic Syndrome something fierce, although in this instance it's the dark brown plastic that's affected. After a few years it crumbles. (:

I can second that. I still have my first TM Megatron with me unwanted (only good for parts) because its whole chest area broke leaving it with only one arm and no practical way of re-attaching it.
If Takara used a different plastic that makes it more stable, I'd recommend it as well. I'd be guessing it looks exactly the same, just different packaging (that you probably won't be able to read).

[Omega Supreme]

I have a TM Megatron, not very good with the Beats Wars figs though, since I have only recently started collecting that line. Anyways here is a pic, if your interested let me know.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9295/megtransmetalqm4.jpg

And I have this Armada version which is the same fig just repainted. Think his name was Predacon for this series.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5419/armadamegxl2.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

Predacon is an entirely different character from Megatron. He's also retooled with dead mini-con ports.

I also strongly recommend getting the Japanese version of Transmetal Megatron as it is made of much better quality plastic that isn't as brittle as the Hasbro version.

[iceburn]

And I have this Armada version which is the same fig just repainted. Think his name was Predacon for this series.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5419/armadamegxl2.jpg

It's coming to me soon in one of my orders...
can't wait...is he suppose to be as rare as the Armada Dinobots?

[GoktimusPrime]

Dude... Predacon was everywhere remember? ;)

[iceburn]

i've no idea...wasn't a big fan of Beast Wars and realised about toy figures (action toys) about 2-3 years ago. before that, only knew comics and DVDs exist. before that, thought it had already extincted!

[STL]

Predacon is pretty hard to find. Just as much as the Armada Dinobots purely b/c they weren't in high demand when they weren't released in great numbers either.

[Omega Supreme]

Predacon is pretty hard to find. Just as much as the Armada Dinobots purely b/c they weren't in high demand when they weren't released in great numbers either.

Which dinobots where relaesed with the Armada line ? I have a Grimlock & Swoop but im pretty sure they are Energon series.

[Tommy K]

hey i had another look at predacon back over in seibertron, does his trex head glow in the dark? it just looks like it should

[Omega Supreme]

I dont think it does, id have to wait until nighttime to known for certain though.

[GoktimusPrime]

The Armada Dinobots were sold as Wal*Mart exclusives in the U.S. I never saw them here - were they even released here?

Anyway, here's what they look like...

Grimlock (repaint of Beast Wars Grimlock) & Terranotron (repaint of Terrorsaur)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/b/b0/WM-Grimlock-card.jpg/250px-WM-Grimlock-card.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/25/Terranotron-DBcard.jpg/250px-Terranotron-DBcard.jpg

Snarl (repaint of Sabreback) & Sludge (repaint of Sling)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/2e/Snarl-DBcard.jpg/250px-Snarl-DBcard.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/50/Sludge-DBcard.jpg/250px-Sludge-DBcard.jpg

Triceradon (repaint of Guiledart) & Slapper (repaint of Bazooka)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/26/Triceradon-DBcard.jpg/250px-Triceradon-DBcard.jpghttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/52/Slapper-DBcard.jpg/250px-Slapper-DBcard.jpg


I have a Grimlock & Swoop but im pretty sure they are Energon series.
If you're talking about the Grimlock and Swoop that merge into Mega Dinobot, then yes, that's from Energon. Those are really craptacular toys too. :/
http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/4/0/5/9/7/Ener232_1195389639_thumb.jpg


hey i had another look at predacon back over in seibertron, does his trex head glow in the dark? it just looks like it should
Nope. But Hasbro has a penchant for using really bright colours. :p


before that, thought it had already extincted!
Transformers has never been extinct. It's always been in production since 1984. :)

[Pulse]

Transformers has never been extinct. It's always been in production since 1984.

It nearly became extinct thanks to G2...

[GoktimusPrime]

I dunno... I think the closest Transformers ever came to extinction was in 1991, 1992 and early 1993 - the tail end of G1. While it's true that G2 was never a raging success I don't think that it was as bad as those final years of G1. IMO Hasbro quickly realised that G2 wasn't working and rightfully canned the line after 3 years giving us Beast Wars, which was a smashing success and revitalised the franchise. Beast Wars = Transformers Renaissance. :)

[dirge]

Actually, Pulse is right - G2 nearly did signal the death (again) of the line. Hasbro actually out and out cancelled the Transformers line when they wound up G2. Kenner - then a proper subsiduary of Hasbro - actually went out on a limb with Beast Wars.

Predacon was fairly easy to find, although not because he was released here in huge numbers. Rather, he was a slow seller. The supply was limited, and now that it's dried up, he's hard to find. Actionmasters are similar - low demand but also low supply.

[Pulse]

Being that Hasbro owns the rights to another line that has "died" (ie. Gobots), if Hasbro were to release "Gobots/Rocklords Classics" - I wonder if they would actually sell... :rolleyes:

http://www.ikp.uni-koeln.de/~scholl/rock/rock/diverses/catalogue_tonka86 "Transforming Rocks? What a brilliant idea!" :rolleyes:

[roller]

Kuzzy, which Tarantulus were you after?

WAve 1, Transmetal, Fox Kids Transmetal, 10th anniversary? I might be able to get a transmetal one, minus the pizza cutter.

[iceburn]

The Armada Dinobots were sold as Wal*Mart exclusives in the U.S. I never saw them here - were they even released here?

Anyway, here's what they look like...

Grimlock (repaint of Beast Wars Grimlock) & Terranotron (repaint of Terrorsaur)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/b/b0/WM-Grimlock-card.jpg/250px-WM-Grimlock-card.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/25/Terranotron-DBcard.jpg/250px-Terranotron-DBcard.jpg

Snarl (repaint of Sabreback) & Sludge (repaint of Sling)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/2e/Snarl-DBcard.jpg/250px-Snarl-DBcard.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/50/Sludge-DBcard.jpg/250px-Sludge-DBcard.jpg

Triceradon (repaint of Guiledart) & Slapper (repaint of Bazooka)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/26/Triceradon-DBcard.jpg/250px-Triceradon-DBcard.jpghttp://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/52/Slapper-DBcard.jpg/250px-Slapper-DBcard.jpg



it's coming to town :P

[kup]

Being that Hasbro owns the rights to another line that has "died" (ie. Gobots), if Hasbro were to release "Gobots/Rocklords Classics" - I wonder if they would actually sell... :rolleyes:

http://www.ikp.uni-koeln.de/~scholl/rock/rock/diverses/catalogue_tonka86 "Transforming Rocks? What a brilliant idea!" :rolleyes:

I dunno, if they are cheap I would probably just buy a couple for the sake of novelty and the stupid @ss concept is pretty amusing.

However most of those rocks do not actually look like rocks....I guess they have an appropriately trademarked name if they wanted to bring back Rocklords...:eek:

[Pulse]

I remember my Mates & I being young & dumb back in Primary School :D & we used to say to each other "Let me know if this is as painful as a real rock" :o

[liegeprime]

hehehhe, always see this for sale in Parramatta fair in Wicksters lot - not interesting at ALL, "turdlords" is more like it:D:p

[Tommy K]

Kuzzy, which Tarantulus were you after?

WAve 1, Transmetal, Fox Kids Transmetal, 10th anniversary? I might be able to get a transmetal one, minus the pizza cutter.

transmetal, hmm this transmetal you speak of sounds quite interesting, let us talk more about this transmetal

[Pulse]

"turdlords" is more like it:D:p

Turdlords?! :confused: :D

If you hear the Tonka spin, They're "Powerful Living Rocks!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KauhJ_kYxE) or you can do it Machine Robo Style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbImBSZPdbM) :p

[GoktimusPrime]

kuzzy: Transmetals appeared in Beast Wars in the 1998 line and appeared in the show in Season 2. Transmetals are Transformers which have robotic looking beast modes and bestial looking robot modes (except for Optimal Optimus and Ravage who are wholly mechanical in all modes). They also have intermediate vehicle modes (an intermediate mode is a kind of "half mode" - it's not a full proper alt mode, they're basically modifications of their beast mdoes). In Hasbro markets Transmetals were very popular but in Japan (where the Transmetal/Fuzor line was known as "Beast Wars Metals" it didn't enjoy the same success as the Japanese fandom criticised the Metals line as being unconvincing robots in disguise. The Japanese BW line reverted back to more realistic looking beast modes in the 1999 line (aka "Beast Wars Neo").

Transmetals TV commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm3LqmsxogY)
Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_eX4Zc6WQ)

As far as the fiction is concerned, Transmetals were created when some Beast Wars Transformers were 'mutated' by the quantum surge that was resultant from the destruction of the Vok's lunar planet-buster (except for Optimal Optimus & Ravage). Transmetals and Fuzors are also invisible to detection from Vok technology (probably because they were irradiated by Vok energies rendering them "friendly" to their machines).

Getting back to the toys, there have been some different variations of Transmetals. There are numerous Fox! Kids and Wal-Mart exclusive variants, which are really just repaints. Most of them aren't terribly interesting unless you're a collector of variants. The only one of those variants I'd recommend would be Wal-Mart Transmetal Rattrap, which is meant to be Transmetal Packrat, but Hasbro doesn't have the rights to the name Packrat so they called it Rattrap instead. But official canon has retconned that figure as Transmetal Packrat.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/0/0c/TMPackrat-02.jpg/150px-TMPackrat-02.jpgTransmetal Packrat from "The Wreckers"

The Japanese Metals versions also feature more show-like colours and most noticeably in Megatron, better quality plastic. Transmetal Megatron notoriously suffers from poor quality plastic which makes the toy easily susceptible to breakage. The Japanese version has much better quality plastic and also nicer colours too.

Ravage is only available through the Japanese Metals line (where he's known by his Japanese name "Jaguar").

I personally really like Transmetals and highly recommend them to collectors. If you're interested in completing all toys who appear in the Canadian TV show then here's the list:

Maximals
+ Airazor
+ Blackarachnia (Transmetal 2)
+ Cheetor
+ Cheetor (Transmetal)
+ Cheetor (Transmetal 2)
+ Depth Charge
+ Dinobot (you have the reissue :))
+ Optimus Primal (Ultra gorilla)
+ Optimus Primal (Transmetal)
+ Optimus Primal (Optimal Optimus)
+ Rattrap
+ Rattrap (Transmetal)
+ Rhinox
+ Silverbolt (Fuzor)
+ Tigatron
+ Tigerhawk
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/e/e6/BW_Maximals.jpg/200px-BW_Maximals.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/e/e6/BW_Maximals.jpg)

Predacons
+ Cicadacon*
+ Dinobot (Transmetal 2)
+ Inferno
+ Megatron (Ultra T-Rex)
+ Megatron (Transmetal)
+ Megatron (Transmetal 2)
+ Ram Horn*
+ Rampage
+ Ravage**
+ Scorponok
+ Sea Clamp*
+ Tarantulas
+ Tarantulas (Transmetal 2)
+ Terrorsaur
+ Waspinator
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/2/21/BW_Predacons.jpg/200px-BW_Predacons.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/2/21/BW_Predacons.jpg)

Unaligned
+ Transmutate (build-a-figure, parts were sold with Hasbro's BW reissues)
http://www.x-entertainment.com/updates/pics/newbwtrans.jpg

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*Tripredacus (http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Tripredacus) only appears in the show in their Cybertron form and look very different from their toys.
**aka Beast Wars Metals X-9 Jaguar

[Tommy K]

wow! that was alot of information, but i grew up with the series so i knew most of it, in fact i do know about optimalization which megatron and optimus did, optimus did it for time and space itsself after megs blew apart optimus head, and megs did it for the greater of himself, he unfortunately didnt give back the spark until the destruction of the nemisis and in a deleted scene optimus pulls oout the spark and puts it back into g1 megatron. optimus give back the autbot matrix or leadership or optimus primes spark after the axalon was lost and rhinox fixed primes head. actually come to think of it the transmetals were triplechangers.

oh and i prefered the transmetal for many reasons

[GoktimusPrime]

transmetal, hmm this transmetal you speak of sounds quite interesting, let us talk more about this transmetal
Sorry, I misunderstood this as meaning that you wanted to know more about Transmetals. Oops. :p Grew up with Beast Wars?! Dang that makes me feel old (I was in uni when I was collecting BW) :(

[roller]

(I was in uni when I was collecting BW) :(

and i was in primary school :D

[Tommy K]

and i was in primary school :D

ME TOO! lol my cousins and i used to play bw outside grandmas house lol looking back on it now it sounds a bit strange lol

[kup]

Sorry, I misunderstood this as meaning that you wanted to know more about Transmetals. Oops. :p Grew up with Beast Wars?! Dang that makes me feel old (I was in uni when I was collecting BW) :(

I was in year 10!

[GoktimusPrime]

Turbo-revvin' young punks! I'll straighten you out yet!

[Tommy K]

lol my transformers count back then was 4 compared to now where it is 20 (ive only just begun my collection) so yeah ive managed to improve my collection by 500% i think

[Pulse]

Turbo-revvin' young punks! I'll straighten you out yet!

http://www.talkingnfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/abraham_simpson.png "You damn whipper snappers!"

:D

[roller]

Kuzzy

if your still looking for a Transmetal Rattrap contact Llamatron

he has one for $15

[Tommy K]

no offense everyone outside nsw, but im a person who likes to buy things within the nsw area, well mainly ill know ill be able to buy the thing at hand and not knowing where it will go

[roller]

no offense everyone outside nsw, but im a person who likes to buy things within the nsw area, well mainly ill know ill be able to buy the thing at hand and not knowing where it will go

i can ask look at it for you and ring you to say how its condition is. I shall be in Sydney town again in either 2 months or 6

[Tommy K]

i can ask look at it for you and ring you to say how its condition is. I shall be in Sydney town again in either 2 months or 6

ok i just need to see if there might be a transmetal ratrap at the fair first, if depending on some circumstances ill say either yes or no

[pheonix83]

theres heaps of beast wars toys on demonbay under buy it now in aus atm.