Generations Deluxe Wave 5: Chromia and Arcee

[DELTAprime]

According to BBTS (via TFW) (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/generations-2014-wave-5-deluxes-listed-arcee-and-chromia-confirmed-179185/) Wave 5 of Deluxe Generations will be Chromia and Arcee.

Neither of these characters ever got officially released in the G1 line so I'm sure there will be many people (including myself) hoping these are G1/IDW characters. But I fear these may be repaints of ROTF Chromia and Arcee since we are heading into AOE and there will be movie toys in Generations for the release of AOE.

[CBratron]

I remember that leak a while back. Not committing to a potential classics Arcee until there are at least some pics.

[Starscream77]

Oh please be true ...... A G1 inspired Arcee !!!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Tober]

March release apparently. Movie toys usually hit shelves around May.

Preordered. If they are movie toys I can (and will) cancel.

[Bidoofdude]

Please be RID Arcee, just read through Goldfire's comic, Arcee is absolutely AWESOME. She better have an etched in autobot symbol or some type of sticker for that. ;)

[DELTAprime]

Please be RID Arcee, just read through Goldfire's comic, Arcee is absolutely AWESOME. She better have an etched in autobot symbol or some type of sticker for that. ;)

Really? As someone that has read most of the complete IDW Transformers franchise my impression of her is she is just a poorly written psychopath. It would still be a G1 Arcee toy so I would love the toy, but her character is really not great in IDW.

[Bidoofdude]

Really? As someone that has read most of the complete IDW Transformers franchise my impression of her is she is just a poorly written psychopath. It would still be a G1 Arcee toy so I would love the toy, but her character is really not great in IDW.

Judging from only the one issue I've read, (which really does not give me much credit in judgement. ;)) I kind of like Arcee, you can never really tell what she's thinking and she's kind of mysterious.

[i_amtrunks]

As long as Chromia is not just a straight up repaint (hahahahahaahaaaa).

Would just be nice to have more than two fembot designs that are not motrocycles. Wonder if Nautica will be a repaint or a new design or not made at all...

[Verno]

We have to believe this will be a G1/IDW-style body for Arcee, right? If so (while I highly doubt I'll pick these up), as a Transformers fan, it's an exciting to see Arcee finally getting what she deserves.

[1AZRAEL1]

I've ordered the pair on BBTS, but if I don't like them, can always cancel. Hoping these will be good.

[griffin]

So if Arcee/Chromia is wave 5, and Tankor/Rattrap/Crosscut are wave 3, that should mean Nightbeat/Jhiaxus/Windblade are definitely wave 4.... which would be three waves released by April. (during a time when Retailers are less likely to stock new Transformers due to the Movie toys coming in May)
Probably best to pre-order these early, in case BBTS gets limited stock again.

[DELTAprime]

So if Arcee/Chromia is wave 5, and Tankor/Rattrap/Crosscut are wave 3, that should mean Nightbeat/Jhiaxus/Windblade are definitely wave 4.... which would be three waves released by April. (during a time when Retailers are less likely to stock new Transformers due to the Movie toys coming in May)
Probably best to pre-order these early, in case BBTS gets limited stock again.

Fingers crossed those dates are accurate. If those dates are right Hasbro must be shoving out the tail end of IDW before AOE hits. A nice change from just cancelling the line with unreleased figures.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'll laugh so hard if Arcee and Chromia are just repaints/head remolds of Windblade.

If it's an actual decent new mold I'd probably grab an IDw-style Arcee. I like the Animated one but I would like to see more fembots released *cough*Strika*cough*.

[Paulbot]

If Wingblade is to be the 30th of the 30 exclusives, I suspect that release will be a special version, not the general release Generations version (in 'wave 4')... So if Arcee and Chromia are repaints of her then that toy might have four releases this gear!

[Sinnertwin]

Wave 5 preorders?
How about getting Cosmos & Swerve in first.

[1AZRAEL1]

Wave 5 preorders?
How about getting Cosmos & Swerve in first.

We can all hope they will show up sometime soon :rolleyes:

[Sinnertwin]

We can all hope they will show up sometime soon :rolleyes:

I knew i should've just bought them off Tony when i had the chance :rolleyes:

[1AZRAEL1]

I knew i should've just bought them off Tony when i had the chance :rolleyes:

You and alot of people feel the same way. Just have to be patient and see what happens.

[Trent]

You and alot of people feel the same way. Just have to be patient and see what happens.

I'm lucky that I managed to find a decently priced Swerve on eBay. I'm happy for my iGear Cosmos to continue to fill that gap though.

[DELTAprime]

I'm lucky that I managed to find a decently priced Swerve on eBay. I'm happy for my iGear Cosmos to continue to fill that gap though.

I'm thinking about hitting up ebay for Swerve and Cosmos just to make sure I don't miss out on them like I seem to have for the couple of Henkei I never found.

[Sinnertwin]

You and alot of people feel the same way. Just have to be patient and see what happens.


It's because of my patience that i dont have either figure yet :p :D
Not to worry, i'll get them one way or another

[doublespy]

Plz don't let these be new mold... Classic verse needs some fem bots!

[BigTransformerTrev]

I think we may find that the Femmebots are portrayed as they were in the art near the start of the Transformers: Legends mobile game, as in their robot forms are quite similar to their G1 forms, but they turn into motorcycles. Hasbro seems pretty keen to establish these characters as motorcycles now.

If this is the case and they are successful then we could see down the line retools of them as Elita-1, Moonracer, Flare-Up and Flamewar. Would be good if they rounded it out with a redo of Generations Kup or something similar as Firestar. :D




March release apparently. Movie toys usually hit shelves around May.

Preordered. If they are movie toys I can (and will) cancel.


Ditto

[1AZRAEL1]

March release apparently. Movie toys usually hit shelves around May.

Preordered. If they are movie toys I can (and will) cancel.


Ditto

Ditto +1. Easier to preorder it just in case and cancel it if need be, than turning out to be awesome and trying to find them because they are sold out everywhere. I look forward to seeing some pictures. Wonder when they may pop up, possibly the toy fair?

[BigTransformerTrev]

I think we may find that the Femmebots are portrayed as they were in the art near the start of the Transformers: Legends mobile game, as in their robot forms are quite similar to their G1 forms, but they turn into motorcycles. Hasbro seems pretty keen to establish these characters as motorcycles now.

If this is the case and they are successful then we could see down the line retools of them as Elita-1, Moonracer, Flare-Up and Flamewar. Would be good if they rounded it out with a redo of Generations Kup or something similar as Firestar. :D





Oh, and Nancy! Since we didn't get a female Junkion from the RTS Wreck Gar mould, it would be nice to get one here. I think Nancy, Flare-Up and Moonracer would be pretty long shots, that's if it even turns out to be a motorcycle mould anyway.

[DELTAprime]

I highly doubt they will be based on the Legends game. Hasbro's 2 directive right now are to base characters on the IDW comics and alternatively to base them on AOE. The only toy ever based on the Legends game is TFCC Slipstream and that was a Funpub design not Hasbro.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I highly doubt they will be based on the Legends game. Hasbro's 2 directive right now are to base characters on the IDW comics and alternatively to base them on AOE. The only toy ever based on the Legends game is TFCC Slipstream and that was a Funpub design not Hasbro.

I didn't mean that they would base them on the Legends game purposely, simply that considering they seem to be portraying Arcee and Chromia more and more as motorcycles that that is a likely alt-mode for their Generations toys, but perhaps still resembling their G1 robot forms in some respect as that has been one of the points of the generations line. I was using the Legends game simply an example of where we have seen this kind of design before

[Paulbot]

Comic spoilers IDW Chromia appeared on the last page of the latest issue of Dark Cybertron, but besides a femmebot body type, what she transforms into, and if she's a headswap of IDW Arcee is unclear.

[DELTAprime]

IDW Spoilers.


First look at what the toys might look like.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-26-retail-incentive-cover/29317/

Looks like Arcee will get a new body for this toy, not sure what she transforms into cause there are no wheels visible. Looks like Chromia is a bike again.

[Tober]

Not really liking that... :(

[Bidoofdude]

Not really liking that... :(

Dang it, especially with Arcee. Chromia looks okay. :(

[Sinnertwin]

I won't mind if thats what we end up with. I quite like that actually

[Paulbot]

IDW Spoilers.


First look at what the toys might look like.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-26-retail-incentive-cover/29317/

Looks like Arcee will get a new body for this toy, not sure what she transforms into cause there are no wheels visible. Looks like Chromia is a bike again.

Arcee is not on that cover. The robot on the left is Nautica.

If the Chromia and Arcee toys are repaints of each other than Arcee might be a bike, or they might still be different toys.

[CBratron]

But would they have repaints of the same mold, in the same wave?

[DELTAprime]

The robot on the left is Nautica.

Who is that? Looks like Arcee's head on a new body and paint job to me.

[Paulbot]

But would they have repaints of the same mold, in the same wave?

Probably not, which means hopefully Arcee will have a cast mode.


Who is that? Looks like Arcee's head on a new body and paint job to me.

Comic Spoilers Chromia and Nautica appeared together on the last page of the last issue of Dark Cybertron. That's all we've seen of her so far. The latest issue out today has her in the character list and she's separate from Arcee. This picture is the best look we've had at her.

[Sinnertwin]

But would they have repaints of the same mold, in the same wave?

It does happen, the most recent being the Beast Hunters assortments. You've got Legion Smokescreen & Prowl, Commander Huffer & Trailcutter, Deluxe Smokescreen & Prowl all packaged together in some case assortments. Granted they're not all straight out repaints like the first lot of G1 Seekers were, but if Hasbro have done it recently, i don't see why they wouldn't with these two in the future :)

[DELTAprime]

Comic Spoilers Chromia and Nautica appeared together on the last page of the last issue of Dark Cybertron. That's all we've seen of her so far. The latest issue out today has her in the character list and she's separate from Arcee. This picture is the best look we've had at her.

OK, I'm always an issue or two behind cause I refuse to pay $4.50 in the Comixology app since they reduce the previous issue to $3 or even $2 when the new issue is released.

[i_amtrunks]

Nautica intrigues me, as she has a nice different body shape that is a bit bulkier than Arcee or Chromia.

Chromia will be a bike, but I'd love it if she were a vtol type aircraft instead....

Not sold on Nightblade's facial "makeup". I cannot see it translating well onto a toy without a major loss of paint apps on the rest of the figure, which will make the rest of the body less detailed.

[Bidoofdude]

Arcee is not on that cover. The robot on the left is Nautica.

If the Chromia and Arcee toys are repaints of each other than Arcee might be a bike, or they might still be different toys.

Oh, well that's good. Some heavy Arcee retooling? Glad to know Arcee hasn't changed. :)

[griffin]

It does happen, the most recent being the Beast Hunters assortments. You've got Legion Smokescreen & Prowl, Commander Huffer & Trailcutter, Deluxe Smokescreen & Prowl all packaged together in some case assortments. Granted they're not all straight out repaints like the first lot of G1 Seekers were, but if Hasbro have done it recently, i don't see why they wouldn't with these two in the future :)

That may happen in revision waves... but it is rare to have two of the same mould first-released at the same time. I can think of the FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster, and Energon combiner limbs JP Arms Micron Rumble/Frenzy... but they do try to stagger the release of redecos (which may end up together later).
As bad as female TFs toys are to retailers, I'd still hope that these two are different moulds, just as a sweetener to retailers to stock the case.

[Paulbot]

Oh, well that's good. Some heavy Arcee retooling? Glad to know Arcee hasn't changed. :)

Nautica may be a boat, based on the name. There's broad elements of the design that suggest Thunderblast from the Cybertron series (and maybe they thought that name wasn't 'feminine' enough).

[Sinnertwin]

That may happen in revision waves... but it is rare to have two of the same mould first-released at the same time. I can think of the FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster, and Energon combiner limbs JP Arms Micron Rumble/Frenzy... but they do try to stagger the release of redecos (which may end up together later).
As bad as female TFs toys are to retailers, I'd still hope that these two are different moulds, just as a sweetener to retailers to stock the case.

Ahh, i was looking at it as having repaints packaged together in case packs as opposed to their release schedule. Gotchya
With BbTS advertising these two as the only Wave 5 figures, i'm thinking it'll be a 4 & 4 split in each case, (i havent seen any indication so far that there will be additional figures packaged with them) which may mean retailers receiving a box or two will end up with limited range to offer.

[foor]

Ahh, i was looking at it as having repaints packaged together in case packs as opposed to their release schedule. Gotchya
With BbTS advertising these two as the only Wave 5 figures, i'm thinking it'll be a 4 & 4 split in each case, (i havent seen any indication so far that there will be additional figures packaged with them) which may mean retailers receiving a box or two will end up with limited range to offer.

Actually, from what it looks like from the case breakdown, they are supposed to be packaged with Scoop and Waspinator.

[Sinnertwin]

Actually, from what it looks like from the case breakdown, they are supposed to be packaged with Scoop and Waspinator.

There it is, top of the page. 3 a piece with the others making up the 8. Is that a new listing? :confused: I dont recall seeing that split available.

[foor]

There it is, top of the page. 3 a piece with the others making up the 8. Is that a new listing? :confused: I dont recall seeing that split available.

Not sure which listing you're referring to. Here's the link for the full case I'm seeing.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23636&mode=retail

[Firestorm]

Some character designs from the windblade mini-series were released that show a new design for chromia now with four wheels, two on her back (or shoulders) and two on her legs. She also uses her windsheild as a sort of riot shield. That and all the lights she has built into her design make me think chromia could potentially turn into a police car.

[Maruten]

Yeah, that Chromia pic that gives us a good look at her is here:

http://www.themarysue.com/windblade-interview-mairghread-scott/#1

She looks great IMO, can't wait for the book.

[CBratron]

I'm getting the ugly feeling that Wave 5 is going to be a cruel April Fool's joke.

[DELTAprime]

I'm getting the ugly feeling that Wave 5 is going to be a cruel April Fool's joke.

I've got the feeling they are being moved up from May since May is when the AOE toys come out, but the toys must not be ready to be shown yet. That would account for why we are getting wave 5 before wave 4. Or they could be ROTF repaints and Hasbro is hopping they can sell a couple to unsuspecting customers by not showing them till the last minute.

[Paulbot]

ROTF toys are too big for the price point. But it's very odd that there's still no sign of them in any way.

(I was hoping when I saw new posts on this thread they had been seen at last!)

[CBratron]

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't make an appearance at toyfair. Makes me fear the worst.

[Ultra Mackness]

ROTF toys are too big for the price point. But it's very odd that there's still no sign of them in any way.

(I was hoping when I saw new posts on this thread they had been seen at last!)

I fell into the same trap!

It is odd we haven't seen anything of them yet, but it's certainly building the suspense.

[Bidoofdude]

I fell into the same trap!

It is odd we haven't seen anything of them yet, but it's certainly building the suspense.


Hope it turns out to be a good reveal, if it ever happens at all. They seem to be some of the most hyped figures for this year and they haven't even been shown yet.

[Ultra Mackness]

Sorry if anyone clicks on this hoping for pics, I'm just venting that we don't have any pics yet, we're in March and these guys are due out in March! :mad:

I really hope they don't get bumped to later for whatever reason.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Sorry if anyone clicks on this hoping for pics, I'm just venting that we don't have any pics yet, we're in March and these guys are due out in March! :mad:

I really hope they don't get bumped to later for whatever reason.

I hope the same if they are proper Generations/G1 Inspirded. If they are just ROTF repaints then I hope they do get bumped so I have time to cancel my pre-order with BBTS

[Bidoofdude]

So nothing of these yet. :(

The newest Dark Cybertron design looks alright, but I really like the Second Exodus body. Any will do though really.

[DELTAprime]

I'm getting kinda nervous about these figures. Either my worst fears are correct and Hasbro has figured out a way to make the ROTF moulds viable price wise or they must have been delayed or canceled. Normally at this point the usual people in Asia would have posted in hand images but we have seen nothing.:(

[Sam]

Sorry if anyone clicks on this hoping for pics, I'm just venting that we don't have any pics yet, we're in March and these guys are due out in March! :mad:

Apology accepted. Hahah :)

[Sky Shadow]

Hasbro has never said anything about Generations Arcee except that she's a 2014 toy. BBTS pulled a March release date out of its behind - there are two waves - Rattrap/Crosscut/Tankor and Nightbeat/Jhiaxus/Windblade due out before Arcee and Chromia, and obviously both unofficial and official pics will appear well before the girls' release. Be patient - obviously it's unlikely that the toys will be released until late this year.

[Paulbot]

Judging by the latest comic issue, the Arcee toy is going to be more red than pink which is not going to please a bunch of folk.

[Other]

Well yeah it won't but when does something Transformers related never not please a bunch of folk?

[DELTAprime]

Hasbro has never said anything about Generations Arcee except that she's a 2014 toy. BBTS pulled a March release date out of its behind - there are two waves - Rattrap/Crosscut/Tankor and Nightbeat/Jhiaxus/Windblade due out before Arcee and Chromia, and obviously both unofficial and official pics will appear well before the girls' release. Be patient - obviously it's unlikely that the toys will be released until late this year.

BBTS doesn't list Hasbro items until Hasbro has given them the OK. So surely Hasbro would tell them when it's coming out.

[1AZRAEL1]

Maybe the first time in a long time, they are managing to keep it a close guarded secret. Then lead up to an epic reveal.

If it does work out that way, let's hope they won't disappoint.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Maybe the first time in a long time, they are managing to keep it a close guarded secret. Then lead up to an epic reveal.

If it does work out that way, let's hope they won't disappoint.


I'm still cautiously hopeful. Though I am a bit torn if I want to see a G1 styled or a WFC styled Arcee. What do folk think would be better?

[5FDP]

I'm happy with my Animated Arcee. If they ever do release a more G1 accurate version, I may bite but I'm not hanging for one.

[GoktimusPrime]

I'd very very much love to have a G1 version of Arcee. While I do like Animated Arcee, the toy is really too "Animated" in its aesthetics which just doesn't gel with Classicsverse for me. I'd be all over a G1 accurate Generations Arcee toy like bad taste on Justin Bieber. :p

[Paulbot]

If you're not reading the current comic toy ad crossover Dark Cybertron, here's what she looks like in the most recent issue. Spoilers I guess for MTMTE #27: http://twitter.com/paulformer/status/444420328819671040/photo/1

[AJ_Prime]

Judging by the latest comic issue, the Arcee toy is going to be more red than pink which is not going to please a bunch of folk.

Sounds like the perfect candidate for a custom paint job! ;)

[1AZRAEL1]

If that is how she will look, I like it. There will be a pink version of the toy eventually, I can guarantee it.

[liegeprime]

okay, so that look .... then it's not a bike then, whew thank goodness... TF Prime Arcee was ok as a bike coz she's tough and kicks ass, that version works well. Bayverse bikes.. erm not even touching that... Animated car well suits the aesthetic,as Gok says, too cartoony for a generations mould. She's ok though, I have that figure. So if ever this was the template now of what she will be for the generations line... I say, don't mess it up Hasbro. I reserve my disappointment until it's out then. :)

[Tober]

So according to BBTS, they've been pushed back to Q3 2014...




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HAS23637 Generations 2014 Series 05 - Set of 2 - Arcee & Chromia

The estimated time of arrival has been moved from March 2014 to September 2014 due to manufacturer informing us that the assortment containing this set will not be available until the Fall of 2014. We apologize for this delay, and will update our website if there are any further changes.

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[CBratron]

Yeah I just got that email too.:(
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/cbrate/ChromiaArcee_zps848c3406.jpg

[Ultra Mackness]

Yea, got the email as well.

A bit disappointed, but to be honest what I'd really like is to see a photo. I really want a G1 classics Arcee so provided Gen Arcee will reasonably fit in with classics, i can handle the wait.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Like all of you I got the email. Can't say I'm massively surprised since they were due out like yesterday and we hadn't even seen an image yet, but still a shame. Would have liked a couple more Generations figures to enjoy before the movie figures swamp us

[1AZRAEL1]

I was hoping there was a picture posted dammit :p

But in all honesty, is anyone surprised it was delayed? The date BBTS put down was going to be wrong, seeing as how this wave was said to be coming out earlier than an earlier wave and we were yet to see pictures.

[Sky Shadow]

But in all honesty, is anyone surprised it was delayed?

I would hope not, since the date was inevitably incorrect from the second they were put up for preorder. BBTS should have posted a correction long ago - there's no way they could have honestly believed they'd be shipping toys now that are from two assortments into the future, that have no promo shots and weren't at any toy fairs.

[Golden Phoenix]

I would hope not, since the date was inevitably incorrect from the second they were put up for preorder. BBTS should have posted a correction long ago - there's no way they could have honestly believed they'd be shipping toys now that are from two assortments into the future, that have no promo shots and weren't at any toy fairs.

They appear to blindly put up the dates they are given by the manufacturers. It is almost as if they get given the data and then enter it straight into their system for the shop.

I mean the fact that wave 5 was supposed to be out before wave 3 (and there being no mention of wave 4) should have been a warning sign that they were never going to be out in March.

That date being so far off I'd probably blame Hasbro for. If Hasbro said they'd have the assortment to them by March, and gave the go ahead for pre-orders, then what else are they going to do?

[MayzaPrime]

:mad: I have to wait for my 2nd Scoop & 3rd Waspinator

Oh and my Arcee and Chromia :p

[griffin]

I would hope not, since the date was inevitably incorrect from the second they were put up for preorder. BBTS should have posted a correction long ago - there's no way they could have honestly believed they'd be shipping toys now that are from two assortments into the future, that have no promo shots and weren't at any toy fairs.

I agree. I didn't even bother to pre-order them because the date was way too early for something we didn't see at any fairs or as leaked images.
The dates are likely a database entry error at Hasbro, as BBTS just list dates they get from their suppliers.

[Omega Metro]

Just hope they are worth the wait. A pink Arcee with 2 legs would be my dream come true. :p

[SMHFConvoy]

If you look at the latest RID Dawn of the Autobots cover Arcee has an earth vehicle mode and not a cybertronian alt mode.

[Paulbot]

And it's pink. Milne has shared his redesign (which appeared in Dark Cybertron) and it seems to be something done as a concept for Hasbro designers. The version of new cover sure looks like a toy, you can see how the chest and arms would fold into a car mode.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I see that TFSource has just dropped their 3rd party TRNS-02 figure to under $50. Considering Generations Arcee is on the way, I wonder if they heard a whisper that the figure will be recoloured into a Paradron Medic so are trying to offload them before an official toy comes out? Makes sense considering how Hasbo likes to get multiple uses out of their moulds.

[Oberon Sexton]

Chromia on sale from Chinese ebayer.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-IDW-30th-Deluxe-Class-ARCEE-Loose-figure-pic-/231329211206?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item35dc4ba346

It's listed as Arcee, but it's definitely the Chromia figure.

Most likely factory rejects, but it's a good look at the figure in hand.

[yoshi594]

just be weary when ordering from Lena. Their items will most likely not be 100% perfect. Had a few orders from them and the items were not in good condition as listed. I bought the black hybrid convoy and mp8x crown. Crown was chipped at the back (they conveniently chose not to take a photo from the back) and my black hybrid convoy was a mess of things (back was broken, hands dirty, one hand was broken, the autobot logo stand was chipped).

Had to get paypal to step in as they were only offering 20USD refund (which was around 25% of the total cost). I could and probably should have gotten a full refund but opted for 40USD.

[Oberon Sexton]

just be weary when ordering from Lena. Their items will most likely not be 100% perfect. Had a few orders from them and the items were not in good condition as listed. I bought the black hybrid convoy and mp8x crown. Crown was chipped at the back (they conveniently chose not to take a photo from the back) and my black hybrid convoy was a mess of things (back was broken, hands dirty, one hand was broken, the autobot logo stand was chipped).

Had to get paypal to step in as they were only offering 20USD refund (which was around 25% of the total cost). I could and probably should have gotten a full refund but opted for 40USD.

Agreed. I've only ever gotten deluxe generations from them, and most the time joints are loose, paint's been chipped etc. I'm the type of collector that plays with his toys though, so it doesn't bother me too much, but I'm just putting this here for the "in-hand" pics.

[CHILENO20]

Just got Crosscut & Rollbar from them and they are sweet. That being said, Yoshi is right and always take care, especially on eBay. It does look really tempting though, might put in a bid shortly :D Good luck to those who choose to go ahead with it.

[Bidoofdude]

I'm still throwing up whether to get Chromia from BBTS or not. She looks fantastic, but I don't know if she'd havea good place and if I need that money for something more important.

[Tober]

Just got my shipping notice from Robot Kingdom. The Arcee and Chromia wave is on its way. :D

[Bidoofdude]

Just got my shipping notice from Robot Kingdom. The Arcee and Chromia wave is on its way. :D

So jealous. :o BBTS probably won't get them in until late October. It'll be a historic day when the first G1 Arcee figure lands in that first person's hands.

[Sinnertwin]

So jealous. :o BBTS probably won't get them in until late October. It'll be a historic day when the first G1 Arcee figure lands in that first person's hands.

From a retail point of view yes, but I'd say a few people already have one.
Just think of all those people that would have direct access to it at the manufacturing plant

[tinyJazz]

Takara versions of these grils up at HLJ

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?cl=1&Maker1=TKT&qid=6ZYDHIT14WWKTPWQ&Dis=2&Word2=Transformers&DisplayMode=grid&z=Word2&set=1&Sort=releaseDate+desc&SeriesID2=6038

[Lord_Zed]

Dang, I was looking forward to getting Arcee and Chromia at the end of the month, but then I saw the TaKTom versions and cancelled my BBTS order. Guess another 5 months isn't that long considering how long we've been waiting for an official Generations Arcee. :D

[Oberon Sexton]

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/5/8/6/8/4/1/webimg/787215410_o.jpg?nc=345

In-hand images of Generations Arcee from eBayer lena81822 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-IDW-30th-Deluxe-Class-ARCEE-Loose-figure-/231354332104?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item35ddcaf3c8)

[bassbot]

The recent reviews and vids I've seen (as linked by places like tformers) have me super excited for these two, but yeah I'm in the BBTS boat!

[CBratron]

Dang, I was looking forward to getting Arcee and Chromia at the end of the month, but then I saw the TaKTom versions and cancelled my BBTS order. Guess another 5 months isn't that long considering how long we've been waiting for an official Generations Arcee. :D

I think the Hasbro Chromia is the better of the two.
But Arcee does look much better without the random bits of black plastic.
And Windblade gets the face right on the TakTom version.

[Bidoofdude]

I just want to get my POL shipped ASAP. I think the Takara Arcee is better, but I still LOVE the Hasbro version. It will fit better with Classics/IDW stuff for me anyway. Bring on a Nautica figure!

[Oberon Sexton]

I just want to get my POL shipped ASAP. I think the Takara Arcee is better, but I still LOVE the Hasbro version. It will fit better with Classics/IDW stuff for me anyway. Bring on a Nautica figure!

Man, I'd love a Nautica to be mystery solving buddies with Nightbeat on my shelf. Also, I hope Brainstorm is successful so they bring in a Chromedome headmaster figure too.

[Zippo]

I can't make up my mind between Hasbro and Takara Arcee and Chromia

Both have their pros and cons

[Lord_Zed]

I can't make up my mind between Hasbro and Takara Arcee and Chromia

Both have their pros and cons

Takara Arcee is way better in my opinion, the black on the Hasbro version does the toy no favours, and the paint aps on the Takara versions face, while being a bit silly capture the G1 Arcee look.

Chromia probably has a nicer shade of blue on the Hasbro version, however the Japanese versions almost always have better executed paint jobs, so for me the Legends versions are the clear winners.

[AJ_Prime]

I think the Hasbro Chromia is the better of the two.
But Arcee does look much better without the random bits of black plastic.
And Windblade gets the face right on the TakTom version.

Completely agree. The Takara Windblade looks like she's stepped off the pages of the IDW comics. Definitely a must have. If I can get hold of one, I'll probably give the Hasbro version to the kids.

[DELTAprime]

As usual BBTS can't get their ship dates right. Arcee and Chromia are now November. I was hoping to have them and Brainstorm in my POL by Halloween.

[Bidoofdude]

As usual BBTS can't get their ship dates right. Arcee and Chromia are now November. I was hoping to have them and Brainstorm in my POL by Halloween.

Ugh. My POL will (IIRC) hit the 180 mark somewhere in November. Really getting frustrated. Hopefully Brainstorm and Cosmos/Swerve will be in stock on time (but you just know they won't). :(

[DELTAprime]

I decided to wait an extra couple of months and get the Takara versions from HLJ. The three girls look so much better and not waiting on BBTS means I might then be able to ship my POL some time this year.:p