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1AZRAEL1
29th January 2014, 04:58 PM
Just saw this preorder on BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11799&mode=retail)

No picture yet, but this description


BBTS:

This listing is for an exclusive repaint of the MP-18 Masterpiece Bluestreak. We currently do not have any information about the specific colors or deco of this repaint, information will be added as it becomes available.

Anyone hazard a guess that he will be "Blue"streak?

Release expected in June

UltraMarginal
29th January 2014, 05:25 PM
it was bound to happen, surprised its not an ehobby release.

kaiden
29th January 2014, 05:41 PM
since the Masterpiece line reboot, there's only been 1 Optimus Prime repaint. 1! the MP line is suddenly awesome.

Sky Shadow
29th January 2014, 06:10 PM
90% chance of blue Bluestreak. 10% chance of toy-accurate Bluestreak.

DELTAprime
29th January 2014, 07:38 PM
Not buying unless its super cool. I don't have nostalgia for early 80's Nissan's as cars and while Prowl is an interesting character in the comics, Bluestreak, not so much.

Sinnertwin
29th January 2014, 08:17 PM
The Seibertron article claims that it'll be the Diaclone version.

GoktimusPrime
29th January 2014, 08:37 PM
Not buying unless its super cool. I don't have nostalgia for early 80's Nissan's as cars and while Prowl is an interesting character in the comics, Bluestreak, not so much.
I like Bluestreak as he was my very first boxed Autobot toy. :) And I like the character in G1 canon too, but he was always silver and black... didn't really canonically appear in his blue and white Diaclone colours other than on the original toy's artwork and packaging/instructions photography. I'd like to see them market this figure as a new and separate character though. They could actually call him "Bluestreak" (ブルーストリーク), since Bluestreak's only ever known as just "Streak" in Japan. ;)

DELTAprime
29th January 2014, 10:15 PM
^ Would I be right in guessing Bluestreak got his western name approved but then they changed his colour scheme without changing the name?

Sky Shadow
29th January 2014, 10:29 PM
^ Would I be right in guessing Bluestreak got his western name approved but then they changed his colour scheme without changing the name?

In the comic he was called that because he would 'talk a blue streak'. But presumably yes - when Marvel (O'Neil, Shooter and Budiansky) named the first Transformers they had the Diaclone toys, so the toy that was meant to be Sunstreaker actually looked like Tiger Track (a yellow Sideswipe) and Blue Streak would have been predominately blue.

nexusnixx
29th January 2014, 11:47 PM
It's the Tokyo toy show "exclusive"

yoshi594
29th January 2014, 11:59 PM
85 usd excluding shipping is a bit steep.

Hopefully he's available elsewhere at a cheaper price...

drifand
30th January 2014, 12:43 PM
85 usd excluding shipping is a bit steep.

Hopefully he's available elsewhere at a cheaper price...

Well isn't that NORMAL price consider what they are selling second release for Red Alert?

If it goes to stores like Anime Export, I get one, I am not grabbing from US stores where possible.

yoshi594
30th January 2014, 02:22 PM
Well isn't that NORMAL price consider what they are selling second release for Red Alert?

If it goes to stores like Anime Export, I get one, I am not grabbing from US stores where possible.

Normal for bbts yeah. Japan stores are the way to go when they get em

Robzy
30th January 2014, 05:48 PM
In the comic he was called that because he would 'talk a blue streak'. But presumably yes - when Marvel (O'Neil, Shooter and Budiansky) named the first Transformers they had the Diaclone toys, so the toy that was meant to be Sunstreaker actually looked like Tiger Track (a yellow Sideswipe) and Blue Streak would have been predominately blue.
Absolutely. It's the same with Bumblebee... the colours played a huge part.

I guess some TF fans don't realise that "to talk a blue streak" is an old phrase meaning 'to talk A LOT, and to talk quickly'... which is, according to his bio, exactly what Bluestreak does. Of course, it's also a play on words... being that he's a fast car (originally blue).

kaiden
30th January 2014, 07:46 PM
Absolutely. It's the same with Bumblebee... the colours played a huge part.

I guess some TF fans don't realise that "to talk a blue streak" is an old phrase meaning 'to talk A LOT, and to talk quickly'... which is, according to his bio, exactly what Bluestreak does. Of course, it's also a play on words... being that he's a fast car (originally blue).

hey that's blurr :P

BigTransformerTrev
30th January 2014, 09:45 PM
It's the Tokyo toy show "exclusive"

Link to images?

Bidoofdude
30th January 2014, 09:50 PM
Meh. Pass.

DELTAprime
30th January 2014, 11:00 PM
I guess some TF fans don't realise that "to talk a blue streak" is an old phrase meaning 'to talk A LOT, and to talk quickly'...

Thanks for explaining that.:o

Sinnertwin
30th January 2014, 11:09 PM
Two Toy Shows & two diaclone repaints
What are the odds of the next Toy Sho featuring another Diaclone repaint?
It may very well be Wheeljack, as there was 8-9 months between Sideswipe & Prowl's release before the next Tokyo Toy Show

DELTAprime
30th January 2014, 11:24 PM
Two Toy Shows & two diaclone repaints
What are the odds of the next Toy Sho featuring another Diaclone repaint?
It may very well be Wheeljack, as there was 8-9 months between Sideswipe & Prowl's release before the next Tokyo Toy Show

If they do a Powered Convoy out of Ultra Magnus I'd get that.

Sinnertwin
30th January 2014, 11:40 PM
If they do a Powered Convoy out of Ultra Magnus I'd get that.

Oh, they will & i'll be all over it, but what i'm really hoping for is a Diaclone Wheeljack :D

nexusnixx
31st January 2014, 12:48 AM
Link to images?

no link to images - it is through word of mouth or some call it Chinese whispers :p

Information came from my supplier.

griffin
5th February 2014, 08:10 AM
More toy dealers are claiming (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-18b-bluestreak-to-be-tokyo-toy-show-exclusive-179234/) that it will indeed be a blue version, with shoulder cannons.

drifand
5th February 2014, 09:13 AM
More toy dealers are claiming (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/mp-18b-bluestreak-to-be-tokyo-toy-show-exclusive-179234/) that it will indeed be a blue version, with shoulder cannons.

Will there be other places selling this being is an exclusive?

Sinnertwin
5th February 2014, 09:41 AM
Will there be other places selling this being is an exclusive?

Definitely, just like last years exclusive, Tigertrack.
Keep checking the other online stores, he'll pop up soon enough.

GoktimusPrime
5th February 2014, 09:42 AM
Oooh, imagine if the Diaclone coloured MP Bluestreak was retconned as Fusion (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fusion). :D It'd be a neat G1 reference, and another non-toy G1 character would have a toy. ;) Okay, the alt mode is different - but hey, we've only ever seen Fusion's Cybertronian mode (which is the same as Optimus Prime's later Cybertronian alt mode). The profile might explain that Ratchet managed to salvage Fusion's memory bank and transferred it into a crystalline containment vessel (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crystalline_containment_vessel), which was then stored aboard the Ark's Mind Bank (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Mind_bank). After awakening on Earth, the Autobots were able to construct a new body for Fusion (might even go so far as to explain that it was made using Bluestreak's spare parts - although we've never seen Fusion's robot mode, so who's to say that it didn't originally look similar to Bluestreak in the first place? ;)) and then Fusion's memory engram was transferred to the new shell - and thus Fusion was born anew on Earth! :cool:

Ploughmans Lunch
5th February 2014, 11:09 AM
Or not.

nexusnixx
5th February 2014, 12:10 PM
Was told by supplier the colour scheme is blue and silver. Well will have to wait for final pix to put these saying to rest

Trent
10th March 2014, 04:44 PM
Interesting:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-streak-repaint-to-be-silverstreak-179454/

A rumour stating that it will not be a Blue Bluestreak, but Silverstreak.

Sky Shadow
10th March 2014, 04:50 PM
Interesting:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-streak-repaint-to-be-silverstreak-179454/

A rumour stating that it will not be a Blue Bluestreak, but Silverstreak.

It's a shame if once again Tomy has its finger nowhere near the pulse of the fandom.

Mythirax
10th March 2014, 05:26 PM
It's a shame if once again Tomy has its finger nowhere near the pulse of the fandom.

Everyone shocks me to be honest, so many good and iconic characters. And yet they all get skipped over in so many lines and waves. It sucks.

Trent
10th March 2014, 07:29 PM
It's a shame if once again Tomy has its finger nowhere near the pulse of the fandom.

Especially after they nailed it with G2 Sideswipe.

Sinnertwin
10th March 2014, 07:47 PM
Pfft. If that's the case, i want a Mexican Black Prowl

BigTransformerTrev
10th March 2014, 08:25 PM
On the basis of this, even if it just turns out to be a rumor, I cancelled my pre-order of the special edition Bluestreak with BBTS and just went and bought myself a regular one. Was thinking of doing that anyway

drifand
11th March 2014, 12:35 AM
really? wtf to this. Surely someone got it wrong as Steak is silverstreak. Is someone pulling an April fools this early because it isn't really funny.

Sinnertwin
11th March 2014, 12:52 AM
really? wtf to this. Surely someone got it wrong as Steak is silverstreak. Is someone pulling an April fools this early because it isn't really funny.

Streak is his Japanese name. Hasbro haven't been able to use Bluestreak for trademark reasons so they changed it to Silverstreak, with the first instance being the 2004 Commemorative Reissue, IIRC.

drifand
11th March 2014, 12:56 AM
I don't really give a damn at this point, if its just a shade difference I am selling my streak off and that's it. There ISN"T ANYTHING EXCLUSIVE about this colour scheme if that's the grain of salt, its enough to cause stones.

Not forgiving if that is the truth.

Sinnertwin
11th March 2014, 01:06 AM
I don't really give a damn at this point, if its just a shade difference I am selling my streak off and that's it. There ISN"T ANYTHING EXCLUSIVE about this colour scheme if that's the grain of salt, its enough to cause stones.

Not forgiving if that is the truth.

You should stress less & let go, it's not healthy for you

drifand
11th March 2014, 01:33 AM
QUOTE=Sinnertwin;405279]You should stress less & let go, it's not healthy for you[/QUOTE]

I am actually a bit pissed not stressed . Being lead to think one thing and this is totally a scam. my money could have spent on other things. Well, just sell off my streak.

Mind you several people bound to this pre order thinking is that colour scheme. If this picture was shown to begin with, I think there might be less interests of this piece at all.

Tiger tracks is at least worth the extra money.

drifand
11th March 2014, 01:57 AM
Reading further from their boards. This is Confirmed we been screwed over for the all silver bs.

The actual bluestreak is going to be a later project.


Thank you for letting us down. :mad:

griffin
11th March 2014, 02:28 AM
One of the smaller online stores have posted on TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/973595-mp-18b-bluestreak-toyko-toy-show-2014-exclusive-42.html#post10744519), that the blue version should be coming out at around the turn of the year... which if true, pretty much confirms that this one is not the blue version.


It's a shame if once again Tomy has its finger nowhere near the pulse of the fandom.

I wouldn't be so harsh... they have a better strike-rate than Hasbro. Just look at the detail they put into the MPs, and forging on with ones that Hasbro are not even interested in (preferring to re-release Grimlock in this "dino" year for the benefit of Retailers instead of Fans), and giving us better paint decos on most figures (or more accurate decos when it comes to past, and upcoming, Movie toys).
The GO! figures had better colourings than the Hasbro Beast Hunters toys.
The Generations toys are more often better coloured than the Hasbro versions.
MP Gen2 Lambor... a great example of a cult (fan) figure, and not something that Hasbro would ever do.
Encore Fortress Maximus... because the fans kept demanding it, and Hasbro would never do it.
Advance Movie line Dispensor and Dino... not because there is a market for them, but because the fans wanted them.

Hasbro is limited by what it can directly release to the fans, thanks to the Major Retailers preferring gimmick lines and TV-supported toys. At least TakaraTomy are not as restricted as Hasbro are. If they weren't so much more expensive than Hasbro TFs, their versions would be the ones I'd prefer.

1AZRAEL1
11th March 2014, 02:46 AM
Until I see pictures, I'll take it with a grain of salt. It was rumored to be blue Bluestreak, I don't recall seeing an official statement saying it.

Edit: Seeing a smaller online store posting that statement could well mean it's true. Well if it's a fair bit different, I'll likely still get it.

Trent
11th March 2014, 06:55 AM
Reading further from their boards. This is Confirmed we been screwed over for the all silver bs.

The actual bluestreak is going to be a later project.


Thank you for letting us down. :mad:

We've hardly been "screwed over":rolleyes:. TT never stated what re colour they were doing. It was just fan speculation that it must be blue BS. And the more I think about it the more Silverstreak makes sense as the car was released in silver so it will actually look pretty damn cool.

Sky Shadow
11th March 2014, 07:52 AM
I wouldn't be so harsh... they have a better strike-rate than Hasbro.

That's actually what I meant - Tomy has been on a roll with picking good redecos for about a year (since the last uninspired Black Convoy we've had toys like Tigertrack, Red Alert, Anime Bluestreak, Smokescreen and G2 Sideswipe.) Personally, I'm all for a toy-accurate silver Bluestreak with toy missiles and launchers - it will well and truly be the version in my collection over the anime version, but that's just me. I'm also sure they will inevitably use the mould for the blue Bluestreak that people have been crying for since 1984, but I just don't want them to head back to the days of thinking it's a great idea to release decos like Silver Chromed Streak or Bluestreak Sleep Mode or Black Bluestreak.

drifand
11th March 2014, 09:06 AM
We've hardly been "screwed over":rolleyes:. TT never stated what re colour they were doing. It was just fan speculation that it must be blue BS. And the more I think about it the more Silverstreak makes sense as the car was released in silver so it will actually look pretty damn cool.

No TT didn't but toy shops did.

Lets not just say FAN speculation though, there is a picture when most people order.(people were mislead to order thinking that it is DIACLONE colours)

You wouldn't be laughing if ALL of you ordered a Ultra Magnus and you are getting a WHITE MP 10 and that's it. This is what I feel it is. The problem is there isn't anything exclusive about the shade, someone can just airbrush over the current one and that's it.

At this point, the car can be any colour I be happier than silver, I do not see the point of this version. you be laughing if Hasbro is releasing this version anyway.

Okay no big deal, I just wasted $90 probably. But I am disappointed even before receiving the product now. Would have gladly bought another wheeljack or bumblebee.

You can throw in a third launcher and I am still disappointed. as there is nothing really to say wow for me. Even Wheeljack with special equipement is better than this at this point.

Defcon
11th March 2014, 10:02 AM
Yeah I can see the point how its misleading with a picture in Diaclone colors, but generally sellers do protect themselves by saying eg colors may be different on final product, it will be completely different! In this case if the product doesn't meet expectations no one wins. If its just a silverstreak with more silver, losing the black bonnet. Then it just makes it a similar variant, and makes the previous release almost redundant depending on what you prefer. For me not an essential purchase, but I'd prefer the silver, the glossy black is nice as well but just not my preference :)

Paulbot
11th March 2014, 10:08 AM
Streak is his Japanese name. Hasbro haven't been able to use Bluestreak for trademark reasons so they changed it to Silverstreak, with the first instance being the 2004 Commemorative Reissue, IIRC.

They weren't able to use it for quite a while, but they've got it back now (and have used it for three or four toys).

Sinnertwin
11th March 2014, 10:18 AM
And in both Regular (GDO) & Diaclone (BH) colours too, like the recently released Legion Class figure :o

Sky Shadow
11th March 2014, 10:43 AM
No TT didn't but toy shops did.

Lets not just say FAN speculation though, there is a picture when most people order.(people were mislead to order thinking that it is DIACLONE colours).

If you ordered the toy from a site that explicitly said you were ordering a Diaclone blue Streak, then you are within your rights to cancel your order. If people are just haphazardly preordering things without knowing what they are (and TakaraTomy never said anything about the deco) then I'm personally not so sympathetic.

drifand
11th March 2014, 12:10 PM
If you ordered the toy from a site that explicitly said you were ordering a Diaclone blue Streak, then you are within your rights to cancel your order. If people are just haphazardly preordering things without knowing what they are (and TakaraTomy never said anything about the deco) then I'm personally not so sympathetic.

Problem is the disclaimer line. And these toys stores clearly stated you can't back out of the order.

You may not be sympathetic. I am however, and I think its considered a scam in some ways. There WAS a DEADLINE for the orders and this also pressured the buyer, many here I believed jumped on board as a 80% guessed that the Diaclone version is what we are buying.

I am pretty sure Takara Tomy had READ those rumours and I think some kind of responsibility also fell short in NOT saying "its not the Diaclone repaint".
Am I blaming TT? No, but I think they didn't do enough either to let people know What is this repaint.

I know there isn't anything to debate about. Is basically too bad is not Diaclone colours, suck in buddy. Like said $90 burned for a so call repaint exclusive when I actually feels like "Hey guys we are running low on silver, lets make a lower shade for this batch and make them exclusive."

Just checkout how many had ordered here as well. Its disappointing and a major let down order.

My disappointment is this feels like I got a double of the same figure. If you start a poll, I am now at > Not even interested.

1AZRAEL1
11th March 2014, 12:30 PM
This is why I prefer to order from sites that don't make you pay up front, rather when it comes in stock. After you find out more details, you'd have the option to pull out before it arrives.

From the sounds of things, they can't make you get it if you haven't paid for it yet.

drifand
11th March 2014, 12:38 PM
This is why I prefer to order from sites that don't make you pay up front, rather when it comes in stock. After you find out more details, you'd have the option to pull out before it arrives.

From the sounds of things, they can't make you get it if you haven't paid for it yet.

Yes, but it isn't the best way to keep a store relationship. I think the sellers also felt "played".

I am not going to play the bad guy and cancel order, I am saying this is a bad buy that's all. Disappointed not the end of the world. Just "why do I bother with two streaks?" looking not much different. Tiger Tracks is totally on a different level compared to this.

This info if gotten to people sooner would have made a difference. There isn't much to do except admire a lighter shade. I love STREAK as it is btw so technically I don't think I am going to have much to wow about for this one.

Trent
11th March 2014, 04:34 PM
Yes, but it isn't the best way to keep a store relationship. I think the sellers also felt "played".

I am not going to play the bad guy and cancel order, I am saying this is a bad buy that's all. Disappointed not the end of the world. Just "why do I bother with two streaks?" looking not much different. Tiger Tracks is totally on a different level compared to this.

This info if gotten to people sooner would have made a difference. There isn't much to do except admire a lighter shade. I love STREAK as it is btw so technically I don't think I am going to have much to wow about for this one.

But TT haven't "played" anyone. If a seller made you lock in a preorder for a product that wasn't even confirmed and now frown upon you backing out then that is one thing, but if you preordered from a site that wouldn't let you cancel the preorder without knowing what it was, then I agree with Sky Shadow. Why would you commit to buying a toy when you don't even know what that toy is? And frankly, if you have enough money to buy a MP you don't want so as to not hurt a retailers feelings, then you could have afforded to wait until it was confirmed and possibly pay a little bit more for it.

drifand
11th March 2014, 05:24 PM
But TT haven't "played" anyone. If a seller made you lock in a preorder for a product that wasn't even confirmed and now frown upon you backing out then that is one thing, but if you preordered from a site that wouldn't let you cancel the preorder without knowing what it was, then I agree with Sky Shadow. Why would you commit to buying a toy when you don't even know what that toy is? And frankly, if you have enough money to buy a MP you don't want so as to not hurt a retailers feelings, then you could have afforded to wait until it was confirmed and possibly pay a little bit more for it.

GEEZE. I didn't said TT did. How many times I said it?
I am just peeved that most of us are lead to believe THIS is the Diaclone version. Again we just got what I will say bad information.

However TT did NOTHING. this is where I am at. All I am indicating is THIS info would have been MORE meaningful at the start then where WE ARE now.

Like said, is a bad purchase, done deal, over it, moved on. I didn't think TT would come up wiith such stunt for an exclusive which looks no more different than the current streak, running out of black paint is probably what I call it.

Pretty sure I am not the only person here who feels this way, but it is what it is. Now if someone could kindly CHANGE the title to silver coded streak and remove Blue which mislead everyone enough already.

Trent
11th March 2014, 05:34 PM
GEEZE. I didn't said TT did. How many times I said it?
I am just peeved that most of us are lead to believe THIS is the Diaclone version. Again we just got what I will say bad information.

However TT did NOTHING. this is where I am at. All I am indicating is THIS info would have been MORE meaningful at the start then where WE ARE now.

Like said, is a bad purchase, done deal, over it, moved on. I didn't think TT would come up wiith such stunt for an exclusive which looks no more different than the current streak, running out of black paint is probably what I call it.

Pretty sure I am not the only person here who feels this way, but it is what it is. Now if someone could kindly CHANGE the title to silver coded streak and remove Blue which mislead everyone enough already.

There is nothing wrong with the title. "MP-18 Masterpiece Bluestreak repaint" in no way translates to or implies "Blue Bluestreak".

drifand
11th March 2014, 05:40 PM
There is nothing wrong with the title. "MP-18 Masterpiece Bluestreak repaint" in no way translates to or implies "Blue Bluestreak".

no need to kid anyone about names.

I am way over it. This isn't bluestreak and I don't really care to debate about it.

Its a Streak repaint.

griffin
11th March 2014, 06:06 PM
Title - yes, can be changed to reflect the original Japanese name to avoid confusion with a possible Hasbro release (if it ever happens). But, be aware that "Bluestreak" is the American equivalent of "Streak", and since we use those "translations" more often than the Japanese names, "Bluestreak repaint" is still acceptable. It's like how people refer to Lambor more often as Sideswipe, and Gen2 Lambor as Gen2 Sideswipe... but that Hasbro name is not on the packaging (people in this western/Hasbro market are just more familiar with it).

Preordering - many of us have been caught out by saving money on pre-paying for pre-orders, before details are fully known (items get cancelled, or a particular MP Grimlock comes with a fake coin)... but that's the risk we have to take if we want to save money by pre-paying sight-unseen. You feel annoyed and are entitled to have a little rant, but then move on and learn from it for next time.
If you feel that a dealer intentionally or negligently misled you (without a disclaimer to protect them that products can, and often do, change at any time), then chase them up for a refund.
Otherwise, in future look for a site that only charges you when it is in stock, or wait until it is released and buy it once you know for sure what it is.
(get what you pay for - if you want assurance of a specific product, pay more for it by shopping somewhere that doesn't charge you until it is released, or has a refund policy if the product changes before release)

drifand
11th March 2014, 06:15 PM
Is a hard lesson though, and "why" people buy it?

1. Everyone seems to think Diaclone colours and assumed so. Yes is all our fault, I am only stating reasons

2. No where else seems to be listing them as they are exclusives

3. There was a deadline.

Its a gamble, I lost. I do feel I gotten a double, is worse than I looking at Soundwave and Sound blaster in honestly. I was expecting a different character, if they have actually named it "STREAK repaint" I think my mind may not have made up back then.

Would I buy it if I known is just a shade difference? hell no. When I want a repaint it better be a repaint.

MayzaPrime
11th March 2014, 06:27 PM
I pre-ordered this version, I am a little disappointed that its not going to be the Diaclone repaint, but I like the mold so much that I am happy to get the 'Bluestreak' version as well as the Diaclone repaint... On the other hand I have always said that I am a masterpiece fiend and pretty much buy all repaint/retools

Tober
11th March 2014, 06:37 PM
Who did you pre-order from drifand?

And yeah, it is annoying that they have a MP Bluestreak that's silver when BT Streak was silver and BT Bluestreak was blue. :rolleyes:

drifand
11th March 2014, 08:55 PM
Who did you pre-order from drifand?

And yeah, it is annoying that they have a MP Bluestreak that's silver when BT Streak was silver and BT Bluestreak was blue. :rolleyes:

Got my brother to pre-order it form me in Singapore.
I am over it, its disappointing but it is what it is. On the bright note I never bought launchers so there I go, I have two now.

Pretty sure when the REAL Diaclone repaint comes along is going to be almost a smack on my face, but yeah deal with it. Very sure we will see it next half of the year.

nexusnixx
12th March 2014, 03:20 PM
it will still be a great masterpiece I am pretty sure... :D

my supplier says it the colours are silver and blue... nothing else further on elaboration...

drifand
12th March 2014, 07:04 PM
it will still be a great masterpiece I am pretty sure... :D

my supplier says it the colours are silver and blue... nothing else further on elaboration...

You sure? Not that I doubt your source but there seems to be a confident information on the so called silver shade. It be great if there is blue in this piece rather than just a silver shade.

nexusnixx
13th March 2014, 10:48 AM
Only time will tell. Just like the TRU prowl too. Only time

drifand
13th March 2014, 12:43 PM
Only time will tell. Just like the TRU prowl too. Only time

Kind of annoying that they don't want to say anything or confirm anything but they actually know it. But I guess you are right, time will tell. I have kind of neglect this piece for now.

I also agree with Toby that the Japanese binaltech had used bluestreak with blue vehicle, it sort of doesn't make sense to call this bluestreak and is the all silver version. I know there is a heavy debate over the name, but I am really not interested over it. Just wait for the final pic before saying anything else.

Megatran
11th April 2014, 07:41 AM
Does anyone know if he'll be available through Asian online stores? I can only find him at American online stores (BBTS & TFSource).

griffin
11th April 2014, 11:16 AM
If you were able to get Tigertrack from an Asian (HK) source, they might get this one as well. Email your usual source to see if they are planning to get it.
Since it is a convention exclusive, it won't show up on some places until closer to its release.
(BBTS & TFSource are known to offer pre-orders before items are even confirmed, just to lock people in who would rather stay where they are than change suppliers later. If they don't get in enough stock, or any, they probably have a disclaimer somewhere to cover themselves)

drifand
12th April 2014, 12:33 PM
Does anyone know if he'll be available through Asian online stores? I can only find him at American online stores (BBTS & TFSource).

You do know there isn't a confirmation that it is blue in colour right? So far all I heard was silver streak repaint and no shades of blue. And if that's what you want, and it turns out to be that I could actually sell off mine.

I do not know what gives on the ACTUAL colours confirmation, this is kind of scamming people in a way.

Megatran
12th April 2014, 01:39 PM
I do not know what gives on the ACTUAL colours confirmation, this is kind of scamming people in a way.

Cheer up. Drip feeding information prior to release is not something new. It's generally the public making statements that are proven wrong.

If you feel strongly against the practice then write to to them or don't buy their product.

drifand
12th April 2014, 01:45 PM
Cheer up. Drip feeding information prior to release is not something new. It's generally the public making statements that are proven wrong.

If you feel strongly against the practice then write to to them or don't buy their product.

^ It is not that easy said then done.

Sinnertwin
13th April 2014, 11:52 AM
^ It is not that easy said then done.

It is.
Wait for the product to be fully revealed.
If you like it, preorder it
If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Seems straight forward enough, yes?

1AZRAEL1
13th April 2014, 12:01 PM
It is.
Wait for the product to be fully revealed.
If you like it, preorder it
If you don't like it, then don't buy it. Seems straight forward enough, yes?

Some sites ask for money up front. Still should be able to get your money back.

Sinnertwin
13th April 2014, 12:07 PM
Some sites ask for money up front. Still should be able to get your money back.

There are always other options, Az :)
For example, If a company states payment upfront, no refunds only store credit on sales or preorders on items & then you go and preorder an item sight unseen, well...
People need to do their research on company policies regarding sales/preorders/refund terms and conditions etc & not get their panties in a knot and have repeated whinges when things don't go their way.

Trent
13th April 2014, 01:05 PM
There are always other options, Az :)
For example, If a company states payment upfront, no refunds only store credit on sales or preorders on items & then you go and preorder an item sight unseen, well...
People need to do their research on company policies regarding sales/preorders/refund terms and conditions etc & not get their panties in a knot and have repeated whinges when things don't go their way.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/8570ef8cb4bca834bedb6210556dd000.jpg

Megatran
13th April 2014, 02:17 PM
*snip* & not get their panties in a knot *snip*.
+1,000,000,000,000.

Not physically possible for me cos I go commando. :D:p:D

We should get back on the topic.

drifand
13th April 2014, 02:21 PM
Each to their own here, well it looks simple is not always so.
In this case not everywhere has it for pre-order and not every store even has it.

To be honest, buying toys has been very different now. You do not really stand a chance of seeing reviews before clicking "I want one"

Those days are gone people, is more or less a prototype shown, Take it, or miss out. The so call wait for it, well...lets see if that happens for you. Not all toys are like this and if you don't get it you may not get it.

Sure there are some that you may get a chance to see the production, SURE... at 20% mark up from stores who first released. And this is the kind of style it has been.

and if you are lucky, a second run. Considering this is an exclusive, is a gamble, is not like the normal Bumblebee and wheeljack. So I disagree that it was That simple.

If you going to give comeback statements like that's what it is suck in. Then I ALREADY know that. I am taking it as if its not what I want, I probably can sell it and that's where I am.

But in relation to colours confirmation this has been very bad information of the product as far as I know. Surely someone knows something and this is what has been poor.

In relation to lame man's terms I expect "Bluestreak" to have relation with some blue colour, otherwise call it Streak repaint if they are not able to use "silverstreak". Binaltech did not had an issue, and this sure didn't help if it turns out to be a Silverstreak.

So to those "you don't like it, don't buy it" the thing is "I may like it, but it is what it is?" better buy than missing out?

There are about 80% of online stores who ARE still showing the Diaclone picture.

With all due respect WE ALL ASSUME Bumblebee is going to be yellow, and there isn't a single picture showing him YET. How many of YOU have not ordered one? And what if it comes out in a retarded Red? And guess what? Most places are already closing orders.

My point exactly for this piece.

Trent
13th April 2014, 05:05 PM
Well, if I am unsure about a toy then I won't buy it. I will wait for reviews, etc before committing. And if that means I miss out on getting it for what I see as a reasonable price, well unlucky me. I shrug and move on. I live what I consider a comfortable life (but I grew up poor. So what I consider comfortable might not fit others definition) but I still will not throw down money for something unless I'm sure it's worth it. If you can do otherwise you have too much cash.

drifand
13th April 2014, 05:20 PM
Well, if I am unsure about a toy then I won't buy it. I will wait for reviews, etc before committing. And if that means I miss out on getting it for what I see as a reasonable price, well unlucky me. I shrug and move on. I live what I consider a comfortable life (but I grew up poor. So what I consider comfortable might not fit others definition) but I still will not throw down money for something unless I'm sure it's worth it. If you can do otherwise you have too much cash.

Bluestreak isn't cost an arm or a leg compared to Bandai's chogokin Macross since you are well aware of THAT series. and you know damn well all gets sold out before anyone has the toy.

All I am saying is don't give me that wait for reviews talk, as it doesn't happens anymore for Japanese hot toys. This used to be the trend but now it isn't. And if it is not Bad enough, most people who have done research on this would agree that the silver shade info is kind of late. (and this is even yet to be confirmed) and further to add the Diaclone bluestreak picture is misleading enough if it turns out to be a silverstreak.

You also have a member here already stating that the supplier's source is claiming is Blue despite other sources claiming is silver. I would gladly decline the order if I know is just a silver streak, other than that nobody knows a thing exactly but TakaraTomy does. It is not TakaraTomy's fault, however there is nothing from them helping either, and this is a EXCLUSIVE not a normal release.

If this was released on HLJ, of course there is no big deal, I could cancel within a click of a button. This isn't the case and we all know it.

We have already debated enough on this, please move on. Other than that lets stay on the topic of the toy. I don't mind people even talking ifs this is the silver shade etc... cheers.

Sinnertwin
13th April 2014, 09:31 PM
It's painful walls of text like this that suck the fun out of this place sometimes

drifand
13th April 2014, 09:44 PM
It's painful walls of text like this that suck the fun out of this place sometimes

Exactly, especially when people think this is such a straight forward buy or don't buy when they have no idea how the information was related to the customers for ordering.

Sinnertwin
13th April 2014, 11:45 PM
And the endless waffle that comes with it...

drifand
13th April 2014, 11:56 PM
To sum it up, you were also lead to believe this was the Diaclone version on page one & two. :) So lets get over it, this was not a clear cut order.

Most of us know we were interested because it was believed to be the Diaclone. Like I said before and again, if is a bad buy so be it. But this has to be one of the poorest info flowing to wrong orders in the Transformers masterpiece line.

May I remind you that most of us Know how a steak looks like and thus the order if is for a "blue" bluestreak is easily I know what I am getting. But if this is just a repaint of the current Streak the name does mislead because this is a Japanese release and not American, therefore the confusion it has caused so far.

While I understand from some people's view point is simple as you can cancel the order is not for some.

MayzaPrime
14th April 2014, 06:04 PM
I have still kept my order... But I am a Masterpiece whore :p

Even if it/isnt Diaclone blue it is still a fantastic figure.

To each their own...

drifand
14th April 2014, 09:15 PM
I have still kept my order... But I am a Masterpiece whore :p

Even if it/isnt Diaclone blue it is still a fantastic figure.

To each their own...

I like the figure, I only wished it was the Diaclone. Who knows what will they actually name it when they finally release it.

Sky Shadow
14th April 2014, 09:34 PM
If you are an individual who has posted in this particular thread anywhere between... say... seven and twenty-two times, I believe that we truly comprehend and appreciate your stance on this toy. However, since there has been no real news on this topic in a month, perhaps it is not necessary to reiterate these points again until actual news develops.

MayzaPrime
14th April 2014, 09:34 PM
I like the figure, I only wished it was the Diaclone. Who knows what will they actually name it when they finally release it.

I will be getting the Diaclone version as well :D

Defcon
14th April 2014, 10:22 PM
Im not pre-ordering this figure, but if anyone is interested in selling theirs because of disappointment or just doesn't like it. I might consider buying. I'm not committing myself to any purchase, just floating the idea :p Will wait and see what the final product looks like. I just don't really like my Streak so much as it has some small Quality issues, and as a result don't mind replacing it.

kurdt_the_goat
22nd May 2014, 02:21 PM
Colour scheme confirmed from Figure King:
I'm surprised they went this route since it just ends up looking so similar to the standard release.

http://i.imgur.com/nlgfpUs.jpg

1AZRAEL1
22nd May 2014, 02:27 PM
Quite disappointing. I think I may pass on him now. I fail to see anything different really.

Initial_G
22nd May 2014, 02:57 PM
that's pretty sad, it looks like the only difference is the colour of the bonnet/hood :confused:

theshape
22nd May 2014, 03:13 PM
Wow how disappointing

kaiden
22nd May 2014, 03:25 PM
that's pretty sad, it looks like the only difference is the colour of the bonnet/hood :confused:

the windows are now tinted black instead of clear.
the missile launchers originally for prowl and are red.

pretty pathetic recolour.

kurdt_the_goat
22nd May 2014, 03:29 PM
I think he actually comes with 2 of the launchers this time as well.

griffin
22nd May 2014, 05:56 PM
I think I can do without it as well, as it isn't worth the higher price this limited edition figure is going to be priced at. I'll save my money for the blue version.

VERT
22nd May 2014, 06:42 PM
Well im out. This is not worth getting at all.

lancalot
23rd May 2014, 01:39 PM
:eek: man that so disappointing... after releasing something like G2 sideswipe , I was expecting a nice Blue one !

drifand
23rd May 2014, 01:46 PM
just wait for the Diaclone.

I think many are very disappointed.

And with the KO going around this will be even more bad news.

Mythirax
23rd May 2014, 04:53 PM
Real shame :(

drifand
23rd May 2014, 05:57 PM
Someone told me the Japanese readings there are stating this as Silverstreak.
Goki can verify maybe, but anyhow, it is what it is.

kaiden
23rd May 2014, 06:19 PM
Someone told me the Japanese readings there are stating this as Silverstreak.
Goki can verify maybe, but anyhow, it is what it is.

im pretty sure it is - being all silver. its supposed to be based on the original g1 toy.

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/300px-G1_bluestreak_toy_zpse3adcc37.jpg

the previous release was the cartoon version.

Sinnertwin
23rd May 2014, 06:34 PM
FML. Bluestreak, Silverstreak, who gives a flying crap anymore? Im sick of reading the same tripe over & over.

Tetsuwan Convoy
23rd May 2014, 07:09 PM
Someone told me the Japanese readings there are stating this as Silverstreak.
Goki can verify maybe, but anyhow, it is what it is.


im pretty sure it is - being all silver. its supposed to be based on the original g1 toy.

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/300px-G1_bluestreak_toy_zpse3adcc37.jpg

the previous release was the cartoon version.

The text does call it Silverstreak.

Blue streak wasn't blue though was he?

drifand
23rd May 2014, 07:17 PM
Ur this was from a Japanese friend who was asking. Not arguing here, but he did ask wasn't the order in most shop stated blue streak?

I do know there is no difference here, just saying it has confused the crap out of a lot of people. Some has gone with the mp-18b .

Like said it is what it is.

Sky Shadow
23rd May 2014, 07:38 PM
Just because a Streak has a colour in his name, it doesn't mean that colour is the colour of the toy. In 1984, Bluestreak was silver. In 2004, Silverstreak was blue (i.e. the Spychanger). Silverbolts have been silver, blue, gold, red, pink, purple and white, but nobody was ever confused when they weren't called Bluebolt, Goldbolt, Redbolt, Pinkbolt, Purplebolt and Whitebolt. These are names. I'm sure Honor Blackman hasn't spent her life having to defend the fact that she's actually a white woman.

drifand
23rd May 2014, 08:00 PM
Just because a Streak has a colour in his name, it doesn't mean that colour is the colour of the toy. In 1984, Bluestreak was silver. In 2004, Silverstreak was blue (i.e. the Spychanger). Silverbolts have been silver, blue, gold, red, pink, purple and white, but nobody was ever confused when they weren't called Bluebolt, Goldbolt, Redbolt, Pinkbolt, Purplebolt and Whitebolt. These are names. I'm sure Honor Blackman hasn't spent her life having to defend the fact that she's actually a white woman.

Not disagreeing, but Japanese transformers line products have known to be Bluestreak with blue. Same as Optimus is Convoy.

In anyway, I already know this, but because someone read that page and asked me "It says Silverstreak" and what is ordered is "Blue streak" that isn't it.

End of the day, is a let down. For those who can cancel this and was expecting the Diaclone, I suggest you do so.

please remember to differentiate your "expert" knowledge and understand some of the general consumer behaviour.

drifand
23rd May 2014, 08:19 PM
The paint work looks matt from the picture, I am not sure is dull silver rather than a glossy version we had for Streak mp.

Tfiguy
23rd May 2014, 08:42 PM
:eek: man that so disappointing... after releasing something like G2 sideswipe , I was expecting a nice Blue one !

...same :(

GoktimusPrime
23rd May 2014, 10:08 PM
Not disagreeing, but Japanese transformers line products have known to be Bluestreak with blue. Same as Optimus is Convoy.

Bluestreak is called Streak (ストリーク) in Japan. No colour in front of that name.
G1 Streak (http://homepage3.nifty.com/redalert/toybox/tf/g1/g1c20/DMG_1495a.jpg)
Collector's Edition reissue Streak (http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/fairlady3233/imgs/c/4/c463df07.jpg)
Binaltech Streak (http://www.toyarena.com/images/bt_03streak.jpeg)
Masterpiece Streak (http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/43/r_masterpiece-bluestreak-001.jpg)

Henkei Bluestreak was called Cybertron Streak (http://blog-imgs-18.fc2.com/h/i/g/higekumatoytoy/CIMG4757.jpg), which I'm guessing was done for trademark reasons (like how Hasbro's Ratchet toys are called "Autobot Ratchet"). AFAIK the only Japanese Bluestreak toy that was actually called "Bluestreak" was the blue version of BT Streak (http://c1575362.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/T/A/TAK131542_a.JPG); which was basically done to differentiate that toy from the regular BT03 Streak toy.

So "Streak" is the Japanese name for "Bluestreak," as "Convoy" is for "Optimus Prime."

Megatran
27th May 2014, 06:44 PM
MP Silver Streak repaint now appearing at RobotKingdom (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp18s.html).

Hursticon
27th May 2014, 06:54 PM
MP Silver Steak repaint now appearing at RobotKingdom (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp18s.html).

Such a missed opportunity IMO, should've been Diaclone Blue. :o

Omega Metro
31st May 2014, 12:08 AM
Just give me a different car! I'm sick of these Datsuns!;)

1orion2many
31st May 2014, 12:24 AM
Sick of the old Dato :eek:, Well I committed myself to one of these with someone on this forum so I guess I'm stuck with a Silver Dato. At least they'll be rare as no one else seems to be willing to buy one ;):p:D

drifand
31st May 2014, 12:46 AM
gotten rid of mine.

griffin
3rd June 2014, 07:35 PM
US$65 as well at Ehobbybaseshop (http://www.ehobbybaseshop.com/?p=6&ev=&id=1032) with 12 available for pre-order.

kaiden
12th June 2014, 09:46 AM
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1402495180_Bp2gJEUCYAAaKXh_zpscce530a7.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/1402495180_Bp2gJKgCMAAi8Ji_zpsdc16e40d.jpg

new pics! strange, previous magazine scans showed it to be an ugly darker grey, but this new 'silver' silver colouring looks nice. might get one.

Omega Metro
12th June 2014, 10:34 AM
That's a lot nicer than the normal darker MP-18. May have to get this now.:mad:

Megatran
12th June 2014, 01:06 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised at how well Streak looks. And the 2 red missle launches are a bonus.

Golden Phoenix
12th June 2014, 01:38 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised at how well Streak looks. And the 2 red missle launches are a bonus.

Second.

Still can't justify buying one though.

drifand
12th June 2014, 02:30 PM
wouldn't just buying dr wu launchers with several options be just as cool?

kaiden
12th June 2014, 02:38 PM
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP18SComparison1_1402547087_zpsce08abbe.jpg

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP18SComparison2_1402547087_zps08235c07.jpg

yoshi594
12th June 2014, 03:12 PM
wouldn't just buying dr wu launchers with several options be just as cool?

not if you like your stuff official!

Liking the difference. Turned out better than what people feared...

nexusnixx
12th June 2014, 03:32 PM
well done takaratomy!

glad I kept to my guns and preordered them!

drifand
12th June 2014, 04:49 PM
not if you like your stuff official!

Liking the difference. Turned out better than what people feared...

That would be referring to Streak with official launchers from Hong Kong release. As for better, is debatable if you like this version over the original Streak that is already released.

Penetrator
12th June 2014, 05:23 PM
Isnt this colour more like the original G1 toy?

drifand
12th June 2014, 05:26 PM
Isnt this colour more like the original G1 toy?


Think so, then you would wonder which version will Hasbro release. ;)