MP Ultra Magnus teaser revealed!!!

[koolkollectibleskhai]

Here's the first teaser pic of MP Ultra Magnus!! Cant wait to see the non-silhouette prototype mold!!

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/Untitled_zpsf3019830.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/Untitled_zpsf3019830.jpg.html)

[CBratron]

Looks exciting.

Always worried that Magnus would be so much larger if it uses the whole trailer but this looks minimal. Barely enough to change the appearance without adding bulk.

[griffin]

Please people - remember to mention the source of your news, by way of name or link (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=7477).

[Trent]

Here's the first teaser pic of MP Ultra Magnus!! Cant wait to see the non-silhouette prototype mold!!

http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w552/chockey88/Untitled_zpsf3019830.jpg (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/chockey88/media/Untitled_zpsf3019830.jpg.html)

Hooray!!!:D

[Lint]

OH MY GOD ULTRA MAGNUS IS NOW A PHASE SIXER! RUN!!! :D

I think I see MP10 thighs in that silhouette, and quite a bit a bulk around the arms, legs and shoulders. Has it been confirmed that he will be MP10 with armour pieces or a completely original figure?

[kup]

Looks like nothing we can really use to get an idea of the toy. It doesn't even look like a toy outline and more of a darken CGI concept image.

The most positive thing here is that without doubt, we now have confirmation an MP Ultra Magnus on it's way that aims to look right. I say that's really cool :)

[1AZRAEL1]

I like it. If it's armour pieces, I'd still be fine with that too but we'll see soon.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Awww hells yes! Really hoping for a white MP-10 cab with armour. Them thighs be a positive sign!

[Magnus]

Hoping the armour turns into a working trailer that can carry MP cars.

The calves are a different shape to those on MP10 - armour that wraps around the back of the leg, perhaps?

[canofwhoopass_87]

Can anyone translate the Japanese text above the silhouette?

[Verno]

I don't own a single MP figure, nor am I ever likely to, but even I'm excited to see Magnus! It's for guys like him that the MP line is truly for.

[kaiden]

I don't own a single MP figure, nor am I ever likely to, but even I'm excited to see Magnus! It's for guys like him that the MP line is truly for.

I don't know whether I should feel sorry for you or not? I know you're a Beast Wars collector but wow is the new scale MP line !@#$ing amazing.

[MayzaPrime]

This is so many levels of awesome :D:D:D:D

Cant wait

[Verno]

I don't know whether I should feel sorry for you or not? I know you're a Beast Wars collector but wow is the new scale MP line !@#$ing amazing.

Don't feel sorry for me. I was a little young for G1 so my connection with the characters isn't strong enough to warrant buying the MP toys. I can look at the pretty pictures though.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Don't feel sorry for me. I was a little young for G1 so my connection with the characters isn't strong enough to warrant buying the MP toys. I can look at the pretty pictures though.

Your wallet thanks you for not getting into the MP line Verno. That is - until they announce a MP Rhinox :p

[Verno]

Your wallet thanks you for not getting into the MP line Verno. That is - until they announce a MP Rhinox :p

Haha, I'm sure it does :P

But Hasbro have another 70-odd G1 characters to make before they go anywhere near MP BW figures.

But to be honest, I'm quite against the idea of MP BW figures. If they can continue to produce toys of the quality of Generations Rhinox and Waspinator, then I'll be perfectly happy.

[UltraMarginal]

I can look at the pretty pictures though.

Which is why we have an interwebs:D

[Deonasis]

A most interesting Masterpiece. Compared to other recent MP releases, Ultra Magnus with his size and possible play options has many questions that will take quite a few more images to answer.

His rifle looks small enough to fit in MP-10's back.

[drifand]

I need to see more even if I will buy it.

[Hursticon]

The potential is great with this one, more info/pics cannot come soon enough! :)

[Tober]

Prototype images should go up in about 3 weeks. If the December release date doesn't change - and it shouldn't. :)

[nexusnixx]

Hurray another awesome mp line for keeps

[Sinnertwin]

I had thought that it may have been an updated version of the Titanium version, but looking at the shoulders has changed my opinion -the shoulder struts seem bigger above the shoulders than they do below them, which impede them extending through

I'm thinking that it may now be an armour add on, much like the original; the angled lines around the torso, shape of the legs...

[drifand]

I had thought that it may have been an updated version of the Titanium version, but looking at the shoulders has changed my opinion -the shoulder struts seem bigger above the shoulders than they do below them, which impede them extending through

I'm thinking that it may now be an armour add on, much like the original; the angled lines around the torso, shape of the legs...

I have thought it has to be an armour add on to mp-10 style. but then wouldn't that restrict its movement? I dunno, have to wait and see I guess.

[yoshi594]

so where's everyone getting their ultra magnus from? i've been thinking of going with robotkingdom for sometime now (bulk order to reduce shipping).

[Trent]

so where's everyone getting their ultra magnus from? i've been thinking of going with robotkingdom for sometime now (bulk order to reduce shipping).

I'll probably just go with HLJ.

[Hursticon]

I'll probably just go with HLJ.

Yep, they're now my chosen destination for MP figures also. ;):cool:

[drifand]

Hlj is no longer my favourite place, is my last backup. I will go for others first.

[GoktimusPrime]

I use Amazon JP, although I would consider joining a group order if it worked out cheaper :)

[drifand]

I use Amazon JP, although I would consider joining a group order if it worked out cheaper :)

The disadvantage though is some places will not include the "special" items and if you have amazon jp, I think it is pretty not bad.

[Trent]

The disadvantage though is some places will not include the "special" items and if you have amazon jp, I think it is pretty not bad.

I'm generally not bothered by exclusive items because they usually end up just sitting in the box anyway. I don't display mine with them so I'm not fussed about getting them. The only exception to this was the Dato bros launchers. I understand why others would want them though.

[drifand]

I'm generally not bothered by exclusive items because they usually end up just sitting in the box anyway. I don't display mine with them so I'm not fussed about getting them. The only exception to this was the Dato bros launchers. I understand why others would want them though.

Me either, thus why I don't go for Hong Kong stores as they are dearer too.

[VGMStudios]

Aww the picture is down.
Did it look good?

[CBratron]

http://thefwoosh.com/2014/03/happy-hour-transformers-masterpiece-wheeljack-and-ultra-magnus-dcc-renaissance-batman-and-maketoys-utopia

[Trent]

Me either, thus why I don't go for Hong Kong stores as they are dearer too.

And besides, what would they even include as an exclusive for Magnus anyway?? A Matrix that doesn't open? :p

[CBratron]

I see what you did there Trent...

[Sky Shadow]

And besides, what would they even include as an exclusive for Magnus anyway?? A Matrix that doesn't open? :p

Ha -one would hope so. :) (Plus Magnus has the most awesome Matrix cavity in the movie.)

[Kapryiath]

its definately a trailer addition to mp10 that was stated a while ago
but i think they'll re tool the arms to extend out further so that you can get a better range of movement when he's combined

[Hursticon]

And besides, what would they even include as an exclusive for Magnus anyway?? A Matrix that doesn't open? :p

How about a justified fear of six-changers and a glass coffin? :p:D

[fatbot]

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo146/fatbot/1900764_600998246652582_1783190181_o_zps5af6135f.j pg (http://s370.photobucket.com/user/fatbot/media/1900764_600998246652582_1783190181_o_zps5af6135f.j pg.html)
http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo146/fatbot/1974099_600998293319244_291470863_o_zpsd2b6fd26.jp g (http://s370.photobucket.com/user/fatbot/media/1974099_600998293319244_291470863_o_zpsd2b6fd26.jp g.html)
from TFUpgrader via Facebook

[kup]

As I figured, it wasn't a real toy silhouette. Nevertheless, I like what they are going with so I am looking forward to prototype pics.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

And besides, what would they even include as an exclusive for Magnus anyway?? A Matrix that doesn't open? :p

How about a justified fear of six-changers and a glass coffin? :p:D
lol, you guys :p

I was thinking it was a Matrix that you just pass onto Rodimus.

[Deonasis]

As I figured, it wasn't a real toy silhouette. Nevertheless, I like what they are going with so I am looking forward to prototype pics.If you were referring to Fatbot's images, they were made FROM the official silhouette and not the other way round. And the Optimus imposed over the silhouette is just a guess at how an unaltered MP-10 frame could support armour. Fatbot's images are just a fans guess about how things will look.

Maybe a second head as an exclusive addition? One with and one without glasses. Or alternate looking missiles?

The coin should be inside a cardboard matrix that does not "pull outwards" or just very difficult in general to open.

[ILikeSoundwave]

Finally prototype pics, a little blurry but what's up with that face?

http://www.taghobby.com/category/9-0/9-3/

[Trent]

It holds 4 MP cars! and a matrix chamber! :eek::cool:

Decent pics will impress. Although it does look a little bulky and possibly has restricted shoulder articulation in the arms I love it already :D

Oh and confirmation of MP-10 in armour. As if there was any doubt :rolleyes:

[Tober]

That chest looks way too big. :confused:

[kup]

Yeah...I need to see more but I am not 100% on this yet. Need more convincing.

What is wrong with his face? Seems like we are getting it partially transformed? And yeah, the chest throws off some proportions.

Concerned but need to see more to confirm.

[CBratron]

Hmm. Wow. That's not like the silhouette at all.

Too much of that trailer is being used. It's just too much bulk. I can see using all of the trailer would increase the play value but this is Masterpiece. I don't care if there are leftovers, I'd rather only have enough armour to change his appearance.

Takara Tomy's MP-10 was a $250 figure. How much will this one cost?

So close to beating KFC only to miss the target.

[Tober]

Takara Tomy's MP-10 was a $250 figure. How much will this one cost?

It says 19,940Yen up the top. So with a pre-order discount of 30% it could be around the $150 mark at Anime Export...

[Shirokaze]

I.. errr... hmmm... :confused:

Well I guess it's not terrible but I expected more after all this build up. Will reserve judgement for proper pictures :)

[kaiden]

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/transformers-masterpiece-mp-22-ultra-magnus-prototype-revealed-179766/

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP-22-Masterpiece-Ultra-Magnus-04_1_zps10f5d338.jpg

omg! this looks pretty damn awesome.

-holds 4 cars in the trailer
-holds matrix in chest
-2 different faces?
-legs look like they're designed similar to kfc but with wheels folded in.
-has a bit of a backpack?

[ILikeSoundwave]

Looking at the pic next to Prime, he looks a little too tall.

[Tober]

Since when did phones replace flat-bed scanners? :confused:

[UltraMarginal]

Not sure about the face. Otherwise awesome! !

[GoktimusPrime]

Finally prototype pics, a little blurry but what's up with that face?

What is wrong with his face?
According to the text below the image,there's a G1 Optimus Prime face beneath Ultra Magnus' as a homage to the G1 Ultra Magnus toy.

[1AZRAEL1]

Can't come soon enough. Want more pictures but I like it.

[Sky Shadow]

Very cool, although it's a shame that it looks like he might be even more of a partsformer than the original. He should come with special magnets in his hands that lock his matrix from opening, but so every other masterpiece toy can open it. :p The 'creepy' face looks somewhat like this:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/795/brwt.jpg

[MayzaPrime]

Besides the poor quality of the pictures I am very impressed. I cant wait to get my hands on him, and hopefully the Powered Convoy repaint :D

[Kapryiath]

though the pictures are far from clear, i'm honestly a little dissapointed he just doesn't look quite as i'd expected him to

[Hursticon]

According to the text below the image,there's a G1 Optimus Prime face beneath Ultra Magnus' as a homage to the G1 Ultra Magnus toy.

What info can you provide for us from the text in the pics dude? - A lot of unsubstantiated claims floating about on other sites at the moment is all. ;):)

...either way, this looks bloody awesome and I can't wait to put him on Preorder - Colour proto pics can't come soon enough. :cool:

[Tober]

Loose translation:

"MP22 is Ultra Magnus! The G1 toy was famous for being a Convoy with armor, but this Masterpiece will follow the cartoon concept. There's no smaller robot mode, cab and trailer turns into the robot. Same size and shares parts like tires and front grill with MP10."

Also says something about not having to detach the shoulder missiles to transform, but I'm not sure. Out in late December, price is 19440 yen.

The weird face thing is the "G1 toy respect mode" - it's supposed to be a Convoy's face inside Magnus helmet.

So no white MP-10 after all.

[kaiden]

So no white MP-10 after all.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus-text-translated/29982/


Main paragraph: Masterpiece #22 is confirmed to be Ultra Magnus. G1 toy was a combination of a Convoy same sized robot and a big body part which transforms into a car carrier. However, Masterpiece toy is going to make its transformation as shown in the cartoon series. The cab truck will still have its own robot mode, but it will be able to transform with the car carrier body as one. Its vehicle mode includes a cab truck in the same size as MP-10, tires and front grill will be the same parts. In addition, shoulder missile launcher will be removable, but it does not have to be removed in order to transform.

Pic 1 with Leader's Metrics: MP-10 Metrics can be stored inside its chest.

Pic 2: Truck mode (in the middle) - Carrier mode gimmick will include movable ramp.

Pic 3: This is the size comparison with MP-10. It is made to be very show accurate.

Continued 2nd Paragraph: MP-22 Ultra Magnus will be released around second half of December, selling price will be 19,440 Japanese yen ($190). (Actual available date and price may be changed.)

For the pic on the right: With respect to the G1 Toy, under the helmet, it will have a smaller head of Magnus (same as Optimus Prime).

from the pics, i could tell that the lower legs + feet were different so it wouldn't be a white MP-10. if the new translation is accurate - they've kept the front cab of the vehicle mode the same and retooled everything else. the interesting bit is the transformation being able to incorporate the inner robot without separation!? to make the transformation more like the cartoon.

in regards to the chest proportions being off/bulky - that would be that its armour over an actual MP-10 sized robot. I'm looking at KFC's CS again and that is just armour wrapped over a box. It does a really good job of creating the illusion that its not there by having the front chest be a slim single piece and the cab a passive white. the hips are also smaller without the side skirts as seen in the TT prototype.

after seeing these teasers, my main concern is the back and shoulders.

[The_Damned]

the pics have convinced me to finally put in a preorder.

[Tober]

the pics have convinced me to finally put in a preorder.

Be careful, places like BBTS are currently about $100 over-priced. :eek:

You'd probably be better waiting for the Japanese or HK store to list in a few months.

[Trent]

I'm dancing on the inside right now :D

Late December release huh? That's 3 completely new moulds in 5 months!:eek:

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Looking at the pic next to Prime, he looks a little too tall.If you look closer, he seems to be placed higher than OP. His knees are at the same height as MP10s crotch.
Looking at it, he should be slightly taller but not nearly as much as the scans suggest.

[drifand]

Looking huge and can kick Optimus butt. Won't be surprised if future cars they start introducing cars coming out from his trailer instead.
Face looks okay for me, I am expecting one of the most expensive mp toys till date due to its size.

[CBratron]

If you look closer, he seems to be placed higher than OP. His knees are at the same height as MP10s crotch.
Looking at it, he should be slightly taller but not nearly as much as the scans suggest.

Considering the way he transforms the only extra height he gets would be from the boots and possibly the helmet.

[loophole]

OMG!! This looks awesome, looking forward to seeing some colour pics and having it in my hands!! Looks perfect!!

[kup]

Yeah from what I can see, the MP-10 'truck' just stays on the back of Magnus as a back pack with the shoulders covering the sides which is more or less what happens with G1 Magnus too.

It seems that we do get an 'white' MP-10 but not really parts former 'armor' like City Commander. The truck is a component that doesn't have to transform.

[BigTransformerTrev]

OMG!! This looks awesome, looking forward to seeing some colour pics and having it in my hands!! Looks perfect!!

Agreed - can't wait!

Now if they would just do a Masterpiece Shockwave I would be a happy man as they would have done all the characters I wanted to see most :D

(Hmmmm, maybe they can do an Ironhide and Devestator too ;))

[GoktimusPrime]

There may be an intellectual property issue with Shockwave, as that was originally a non-Diaclone/Microman mould (re: Astro Magnum). Takara did release Shockwave (as Laserwave) in Japan during the 1980s, but I'm not sure if they still retain the rights to use that mould and its distinctive likeness.

[kaiden]

Yeah from what I can see, the MP-10 'truck' just stays on the back of Magnus as a back pack with the shoulders covering the sides which is more or less what happens with G1 Magnus too.

It seems that we do get an 'white' MP-10 but not really parts former 'armor' like City Commander. The truck is a component that doesn't have to transform.

are you talking about the cab? because it doesn't look as boxy as KFC's CS in robot mode.

[CBratron]

Maybe the same as robot mode Prime except for the shoulders swing back.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Mehhh was hoping for better to be honest. It's nice that they've tried to build it around a retooled cab (assuming this is the case), but he still looks a bit off, especially in the bottom right comparison photo next to MP-10.

Still, my fav character deserves colour photos before I cast him into the dark abyss of "could have beens"

[gdmetro]

Looks good.

I was in the camp of wanting a white prime and seeing how they could do it and not look disproportionate, but after some thought the all in one transformation doesn't sound too bad. Also the lower price point compared to an additional cab is a further boon.

Just goes to show Takara's uncompromising vision to focus more on the animation side of things over toy side things.

Especially when you consider repaint potential, especially diaclone powered convoy. They could paint this mould up but would t have the same meaning.

Can't wait for more clearer detailed pics.

[griffin]

Happy to see that it is a uniquely transforming truck to robot like the large Titanium Ultra Magnus, instead of just Optimus inside armour.
I'm surprised though. Despite some possible redeco possibilities (Diaclone, Shining), it must have been hard to convince the bean-counters to allow them to do this instead of the more profitable recycling of the Optimus toy with armour/trailer (which would have appealed to fans anyway if it worked, as it would still retain the homage to the Gen1 toy AND any cult followers of there being a tiny white robot inside).

(for me though, when I think of cartoon Ultra Magnus, my mind always goes to the animations that has the white cab fold down into the trailer while the truck "stands up", instead of the cab transforming into a white optimus with the trailer wrapping around it... which is why I would have been happy with either MP concept for Ultra Magnus - one would remind me of the cartoon, while the other would remind me of the toy)

[Lord_Zed]

So no inner robot eh? I can't say I'm surprised though, it's a bit to hard to make a half decently proportioned MP toy with such restrictions.

Still he looks alright, Outside on MTMTE, Magnus has never been one of my favourites so I'm not as keen as some, but I am glad to see TakTomy keeping up the design quality of there MP toys.

[Tober]

I think they removed some play value from the toy by not having the cab being able to separate, but I'm not really fussed about it. Magnus has never been a favourite of mine, but ofcourse I will get it regardless. MPs are about all I collect now. :)

I remember it being mentioned somewhere that when Optimus was injured in the movie his toy was going to be replaced by the UM toy, like some sort of life-support power armor. Instead the made it a different character.

[theshape]

Agreed - can't wait!

Now if they would just do a Masterpiece Shockwave I would be a happy man as they would have done all the characters I wanted to see most :D

[/B][/I][/SIZE]


There may be an intellectual property issue with Shockwave, as that was originally a non-Diaclone/Microman mould (re: Astro Magnum). Takara did release Shockwave (as Laserwave) in Japan during the 1980s, but I'm not sure if they still retain the rights to use that mould and its distinctive likeness.

This is why I got quakewave. You wont regret it

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

So, wait...just to clarify: the cab does NOT transform in to a robot in it's own right?
The translations I've seen said it did, and my Japanese isn't good enough to translate the right part of the original text. That said, I'd be sort of surprised if it did given the price it's supposed to be going for.

Not that I'm really fussed, if it looks good I'll pick it up, if not then I'll pass. City Commander is great and all, but it doesn't quite scratch that nostalgia itch.

[Bidoofdude]

He looks pretty nice. Nice and beefy. I think one of the best parts is the ability to hold four cars. That's pretty awesome and a great play feature. Not crazy about the cartoon face, but the eyes are a bit obscured so I'll reserve judgement.

[Magnus]

So, wait...just to clarify: the cab does NOT transform in to a robot in it's own right?
The translations I've seen said it did, and my Japanese isn't good enough to spot the right part of the original text. That said, I'd be sort of surprised if it did given the price it's supposed to be going for.

Not that I'm really fussed, if it looks good I'll pick it up, if not then I'll pass. City Commander is great and all, but it doesn't quite scratch that nostalgia itch.

According to the translation Kaiden linked to (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus-text-translated/29982/) earlier, it does.

What I got from that translation is that the cab is a modified MP10 that can transform into a white Prime, but it also transforms (combines?) with the trailer.

I have yet to preorder a TF from anywhere; this could be the first one.

[Paulbot]

I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy...


http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/transformers-masterpiece-mp-22-ultra-magnus-prototype-revealed-179766/

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/MP-22-Masterpiece-Ultra-Magnus-04_1_zps10f5d338.jpg



All right, give me the bomb.

;)

[Robzy]

Love it!

Looks like he's wearing a tailcoat though...

[Hursticon]

Courtesy of this man (https://twitter.com/GogDog/status/458989229305917440) ;):):

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/IF4VIWE_zps2ec8b02a.jpg~original

[Sinnertwin]

I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy...



All right, give me the bomb.

;)

:D:D:D

[gdmetro]

Courtesy of this man (https://twitter.com/GogDog/status/458989229305917440) ;):):

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/IF4VIWE_zps2ec8b02a.jpg~original

Holy... Wow...

Most of the uncertainties regarding the cab is made clear in this pic.

Is it me or were the animation Magnus eyes bigger?

Butt flap is a minor issue for me...

All in all May need to get 2 of these..beautiful

[Tober]

Yep, seam lines on the cab are different.

[1AZRAEL1]

So beautiful. Bring on colour pictures!!!

[kaiden]

thanks for the cleaner pic hurst.

i can definitely see how the leg and arms are formed but i can't see how there's an inner robot - the cab looks like it folds into a backpack so the design is probably going with cartoon accuracy like others have mentioned.

love the facesculpt! its what i want city commander to be. i can now see that the bottom left pic is just the front of his face removed to reveal the underneath head thing.

disappointed about the inner robot though.

[DELTAprime]

Seriously, he won't fit on my Masterpiece shelf. Too dam tall.:(

[Nevac]

Very impressed by the pictures and personally I'm glad there's no white Prime. When you think about it if they were to include an armored Prime the figure would be that much bulkier, taller and less articulate. I don't think the original MP10 mold was designed to be armored in the first place. If you've seen marksproject's Ultra Magnus you can see the difficulty he had in pulling off Magnus's looks because he was going off the MP01 mold notably the very small thighs since it was using MP01's thighs. The amount of retooling required would mean the inner robot would look pretty terrible and is anyone really going to display him as a white prime?

I mean seriously do you guys really want another white prime? I'm sure everyone would scoff if Takara released MP10 in white on his own. Ever since that dreamwave comic I was sick of seeing every Optimus release get a white Ultra Magnus deco that's not Ultra Magnus in my eyes. I admit I own MP02 but that's the only white Prime I'll ever own and that was with the vain hope they would release an armor upgrade. Nowdays I'd rather Magnus to be his own character not albino prime with armor.

The fact that this guy looks superb in vehicle mode and can carry the MP cars is a huge bonus, The only part I'm concerned about is his back. Usually the back is the weakest part of all the MP's thus far. I did notice the tail flap but hopefully the rest of his back is great.

[optimus1]

Ultra Magnus is looking good! I'll be very interested to see how the trailer forms over the cab.

Magnus is still one of my favourite Autobots! Hopefully in MP form he will done properly.

[Megatran]

Seriously, he won't fit on my Masterpiece shelf. Too dam tall.:(

Dude, you need are larger/taller Masterpiece shelf. :p

[kaiden]

Very impressed by the pictures and personally I'm glad there's no white Prime. When you think about it if they were to include an armored Prime the figure would be that much bulkier, taller and less articulate. I don't think the original MP10 mold was designed to be armored in the first place. If you've seen marksproject's Ultra Magnus you can see the difficulty he had in pulling off Magnus's looks because he was going off the MP01 mold notably the very small thighs since it was using MP01's thighs. The amount of retooling required would mean the inner robot would look pretty terrible and is anyone really going to display him as a white prime?

I mean seriously do you guys really want another white prime? I'm sure everyone would scoff if Takara released MP10 in white on his own. Ever since that dreamwave comic I was sick of seeing every Optimus release get a white Ultra Magnus deco that's not Ultra Magnus in my eyes. I admit I own MP02 but that's the only white Prime I'll ever own and that was with the vain hope they would release an armor upgrade. Nowdays I'd rather Magnus to be his own character not albino prime with armor.

The fact that this guy looks superb in vehicle mode and can carry the MP cars is a huge bonus, The only part I'm concerned about is his back. Usually the back is the weakest part of all the MP's thus far. I did notice the tail flap but hopefully the rest of his back is great.

i probably wouldn't ever display him as a white prime but i love the fact that he is a white prime. that he is an inferior version of the Optimus Prime and compensates as a soldier with his armor.

in the end as long as the robot and vehicle mode are good most people won't care or will overlook it.

[GoktimusPrime]

Or you could display your MP Ultra Magnus in vehicle mode (with four MP cars loaded inside) ;)

I agree with Nevac's sentiments about this toy not having the white Optimus Prime cab robot. I personally like the white Optimus Prime cab robot idea with G1 Ultra Magnus (actually I really love it), but I don't share that same sentiment with post 1986 Ultra Magnus toys. I'd rather see them develop entirely new moulds for Ultra Magnus. Currently my favourite Ultra Magnus toys are Animated and TFPRiD -- while these moulds have their weaknesses, I really appreciate them for just being entirely new/original designs rather than yet-another-redeco of Optimus Prime (I personally see RiD Ultra Magnus as God Magnus - an entirely separate entity </Gokiverse> :p)

Having a completely original mould that incorporates the cab with the trailer is, to me, a much more exciting prospect. While I've never been a fan of Ti Series, I've always appreciated the concept behind Ti Series Ultra Magnus and what they were trying to achieve with that toy. Now we're seeing the same core concept being revisited, but with Masterpiece level engineering. :)

The main downside's going to be the price. I've been on the fence about which version I was going to get, but if Hasbro's MPs are going along this trend of costing even more than TakTOM's already expensive prices, then I might as well just pre-order the TakTOM version. It still won't be cheap, but it'll probably be the cheapest we can get now that Hasbro's losing their price advantage (which is a shame).

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

O if Hasbro's MPs are going along this trend of costing even more than TakTOM's already expensive prices,
One release is a trend?:confused:

I certainly wouldn't pay $100 for prowl or his other car brothers. One would hope that the lack of movement for them after the success of Soundwave and Optimus would make HB reassess their tactics before inflicting that upon customers again. Wouldn't surprise me if it's actually TRU bumping up that price somewhat significantly.

[Kazza]

There has been a price drop to ~$152 USD on RK.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp22.html

[Megatran]

There has been a price drop to ~$152 USD on RK.

http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp22.html

Yeah, just saw that as well. You should have used max size font cos that's a price drop of almost US$100 from the previous price listing. :eek::)

I wonder what will happen to those who already pre-ordered (& hence pre-paid) at RK?

I wonder if other online sites will follow suit & drop their prices.

[Kazza]

Yeah, just saw that as well. You should have used max size font cos that's a drop of almost US$100 from the previous price listing.

I wonder what will happen to those who already pre-ordered (& hence pre-paid) at RK?

RK more than likely will either offer credit or refund the difference. But yeah extremely excited to see the price drop.:D

[ILikeSoundwave]

With the price drop I might actually get this.:D

[Kazza]

Just checked the cheapest postage on RK to get it delivered here (VIC) and it comes to ~$66 USD for registered air mail, totalling ~$218 USD or roughly $240 AUD.

[yoshi594]

I think bbts reduced their price as well?

189.99 USD

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11771&mode=retail

[Other]

Just checked the cheapest postage on RK to get it delivered here (VIC) and it comes to ~$66 USD for registered air mail, totalling ~$218 USD or roughly $240 AUD.

Yeah, expensive shipping but not much you can do about it sadly, all up I doubt you'll be able to get it cheaper elsewhere. At least there's a hefty discount on the retail price helping it out and odds are you'll get whatever amazon exclusive item there is if any.

[Sinnertwin]

I think bbts reduced their price as well?

189.99 USD

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11771&mode=retail

Originally listed for $279.99. The new price is front page on their website
Those that did preorder will notice the amended price in their account along with a email notice :)

[Tober]

...and odds are you'll get whatever amazon exclusive item there is if any.

Maybe he'll come equipped with a pack of playing cards... :rolleyes:


Am I the only one that's not happy about his ass kibble? If it's colored white against his red/blue body it's going to be really distracting. :(

[kaiden]

Am I the only one that's not happy about his ass kibble? If it's colored white against his red/blue body it's going to be really distracting. :(

i don't and i'm sure its the same for everyone else. but its a wait and see in colour now.

[Trent]

Maybe he'll come equipped with a pack of playing cards... :rolleyes:


Am I the only one that's not happy about his ass kibble? If it's colored white against his red/blue body it's going to be really distracting. :(

Hasui designed this. The guy has given me zero reason to doubt his choices so far. The way we view MPs now is solely due to this guy. If Magnus has bum kibble, until I have it in my hand to say otherwise I'm gonna say its because there was no other way. And besides, these are the first prototype pics. Remember the negative comments that were made about Wheeljack when his prototype was revealed? With colour shots most of those complaints have melted away.

[Hursticon]

Preorders are now up at:

Hobby Link Japan (http://t.co/rpoyD5JsHd)
Hobby Search (http://t.co/zowGzNvQHZ)


The later are the courteous providers of these amazing High-Res pics also! :D

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140a_zps08358925.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140a2_zpsdd5ae16f.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140a3_zpse8939331.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140b_zps0fc8b946.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140b3_zps9e78d345.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140b2_zpsee2e641c.jpg~original

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10273140b4_zpsbe77f8b5.jpg~original

[Sinnertwin]

Cheers for the photos,Hursti :)
He looks amazing :D
Not a fan of the missiles on the outside of his trailer, but two quick steps & we're good.

[CBratron]

Worked out that tailcoat kibble is the roof of his cab.

[jazzcomp]

The price seems to be going down. Why is that? That's already Hasbro pricing.
Anyone ordering a group buy from NSW/Sydney?

How much is shipping with HLJ for Magnus?

[kaiden]

The price seems to be going down. Why is that? That's already Hasbro pricing.
Anyone ordering a group buy from NSW/Sydney?

How much is shipping with HLJ for Magnus?

because the initial preorder price was speculation.

[jazzcomp]

because the initial preorder price was speculation.
But still, you'd think it would be in MP-10 price range or more?

[yoshi594]

But still, you'd think it would be in MP-10 price range or more?

The transformation doesn't look like it'll be too complicated since there's no white mp-10. Probably factoring in that.

[GoktimusPrime]

Amazon Japan has started listing MP22, but no price so far. They'll initially advertise TakaraTOMY's official RRP then later mark it down for preorder discount.

[yoshi594]

Amazon Japan has started listing MP22, but no price so far. They'll initially advertise TakaraTOMY's official RRP then later mark it down for preorder discount.

any exclusives? otherwise i'll just order from amiami/hlj

[gamblor916]

Pre-order is up at HLJ. (http://www.hlj.com/product/tkt80320)

[GoktimusPrime]

Dunno. But in all honesty, I say just go for whichever's the cheapest. IMHO none of the exclusive content is worth paying extra for. If Amiami or HLJ manages to work out cheaper/easier for you, then go for it. :)

[Hursticon]

RobotKingdom (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp22.html) have re-listed their preorder page. :cool:

[yoshi594]

from rk's order page


"Ultra Magnus Main Body
Face for Exchange X 1
Weapon X 1
Daniel Figure X 1
Spike Figure X 1
Fist for Exchange"

wat the...fist for exchange?! does that mean his fingers won't be articulated?

And wat the...spike and daniel figures O.O

[kurdt_the_goat]

Apart from surface details on the cab, the toy/transform looks like it has almost nothing in common with MP-10... i'm honestly surprised and pleased they took that approach!

[Tober]

Hasui designed this. The guy has given me zero reason to doubt his choices so far. The way we view MPs now is solely due to this guy. If Magnus has bum kibble, until I have it in my hand to say otherwise I'm gonna say its because there was no other way. And besides, these are the first prototype pics. Remember the negative comments that were made about Wheeljack when his prototype was revealed? With colour shots most of those complaints have melted away.

I don't have a problem with the majority of MP figures, Hasui engineered or otherwise. I don't like Rodimus however, and that Magnus cab flap reminds me of Rodimus' folding transformation. I'll definitely be getting one, but I doubt color images will change my mind about the flap.

[Tober]

from rk's order page


"Ultra Magnus Main Body
Face for Exchange X 1
Weapon X 1
Daniel Figure X 1
Spike Figure X 1
Fist for Exchange"

wat the...fist for exchange?! does that mean his fingers won't be articulated?

And wat the...spike and daniel figures O.O

Yeah, those items are listed on Hobby Search's page as well.

Difference is that if you have a problem with your order, Hobby Search or HLJ will help you. RK, for the most part, won't.

[Hursticon]

from rk's order page


"Ultra Magnus Main Body
Face for Exchange X 1
Weapon X 1
Daniel Figure X 1
Spike Figure X 1
Fist for Exchange"

Didn't notice these details on either of RobotKingdom (http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp22.html)'s or Hobby-Search (http://t.co/zowGzNvQHZ)'s pages! :eek:

So would it be safe to assume it'd be (Adult) Spike & (Kid) Daniel then? - Bloody cool either way! :D:cool:

[Hursticon]

AmiAmi (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-005770&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dtransforme rs+Masterpiece%24pagemax%3D20%24getcnt%3D0%24pagec nt%3D1) has their Preorder page up now also. ;):cool:

[kaiden]

hrrmmmzzz... those japanese prices basically are work out about $10 cheaper than RK, which makes up for the coin.

all thats left to consider is the shipping price for me

as for the fist for exchange - maybe this? like the revoltech extra hand

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/321/1/a/1a90c270378da9192d4fe077d7bd8d03-d2cy66w.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/321/1/a/1a90c270378da9192d4fe077d7bd8d03-d2cy66w.jpg

[Paulbot]

Playing around in Photoshop. Ultra Magnus' cartoon model has a lot more white than I expected.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ab6af5b56b58529a237af757d5fad261/tumblr_n4l355oTII1qbguy1o2_r1_500.jpg

On If the truck part isn't all white (like the G1 toy) it might look a bit more like this

https://31.media.tumblr.com/2c41aea7d29fce3eddfbe6edc46d8561/tumblr_n4l355oTII1qbguy1o3_r1_500.jpg

[Sinnertwin]

Looks really good, PB :)
Any chance of painting one up with the parts under the knees blue, but leaving the trailer ramps white please?

[Paulbot]

Looks really good, PB :)
Any chance of painting one up with the parts under the knees blue, but leaving the trailer ramps white please?

Good idea. It looks much better.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/2c41aea7d29fce3eddfbe6edc46d8561/tumblr_n4l355oTII1qbguy1o3_r1_500.jpg

[Sinnertwin]

Awesome! Thanks Paul! :D

[Tober]

Nippon-Yasan (http://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures-transformers/7148-transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus.html) have pre-orders up for $130 USD + shipping.

[Hursticon]

...and Anime-Export (http://www.anime-export.com/product/19423) now have theirs up - $122USD + Postage! :eek:

[Shirokaze]

Well I certainly wasn't going to miss out on pre-ordering this, and with the clearer pictures I'm pretty sold on him now. :p

[Magnus]

So, it's practically confirmed there's no white Prime? I keep thinking back to that translation on Seibertron which stated that the 'cab truck will still have its own robot mode'.

[Hursticon]

So, it's practically confirmed there's no white Prime? I keep thinking back to that translation on Seibertron which stated that the 'cab truck will still have its own robot mode'.

From what can be determined by many a translation, in-conjunction with these latest pics? - Pretty sure it's safe to say that there's no "White" Prime, the cab simply merges with the trailer. :o;)

[Megatran]

...and Anime-Export (http://www.anime-export.com/product/19423) now have theirs up - $122USD + Postage! :eek:

I've never ordered from A-E before. Read their FAQ by still not sure how payment works. Is payment upfront for the items on pre-order using PayPal, followed by shipping cost when it becomes available???

[yoshi594]

I've never ordered from A-E before. Read their FAQ by still not sure how payment works. Is payment upfront for the items on pre-order using PayPal, followed by shipping cost when it becomes available???

yea it's payment first, then the items go into your "pile of loot" and you can ship in bulk. They hold items for up to 6 months or so.

[Verno]

What a sexy beast.

[gdmetro]

Wow the price is so much lower than I expected... Thanks anime export!!!! What a great deal.

[kaiden]

damn. i really want to preorder but its probably not going to come until 2015.

[Tober]

damn. i really want to preorder but its probably not going to come until 2015.

December 13

[drifand]

December 13

yup ordered mine.

[tangy]

gaah that Anime export price just pushed me into preordering!

[kaiden]

December 13

whenever its a December release it inevitably gets delayed.

[philby]

looks pretty cool! the gaps and knee flap things are a bit distracting to me though. i've never owned any ultra magnus toys before but i think i might get this one! i like the big armoury chunkiness of the character and the idea of the truck combining with the trailer is appealing to me but if thisway means a more detailed and articulated figure then i suppose its alright :)

[Trent]

whenever its a December release it inevitably gets delayed.

Smokescreen was out on time and his release was December 14

[Sinnertwin]

So would it be safe to assume it'd be (Adult) Spike & (Kid) Daniel then? - Bloody cool either way! :D:cool:

Yeah, in their snazzy Star Trek suits no less :p

[Robzy]

Love the transformation design of this. That cab looks exactly like Optimus but has nothing in common. Brilliant!

[AJ_Prime]

REALLY looking forward to this one. Like everyone else, I'm loving how his cab folds up to form part of the robot whilst maintaining the same appearance MP-10.

The engineering looks to be so well done, and the fact that it has the ramp gimmick is a huge sell for me personally. I'd buy this without all the extras it's apparently including.

It's going to feel like a long wait for this guy, but SO worth it!!

[GoktimusPrime]

Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP22-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9/dp/B00JWGI08C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398515513&sr=8-1&keywords=%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%8 3%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88% E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9) has now listed the RRP as 19440JPY ($205). I'm not sure what their final preorder discount price will be (MP Wheeljack is discounted at 8% off whereas Bumblebee is 25% off), and shipping from Amazon JP would be cheaper... ah bugger it, preorder from Anime Export! ;) (I can always cancel it and preorder from Amazon if they offer a competitive discount + yummy bonus item... but I can live without the bonus content if it means paying less for the toy :p)

[Tober]

Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP22-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9/dp/B00JWGI08C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398515513&sr=8-1&keywords=%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%8 3%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88% E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9) has now listed the RRP as 19440JPY ($205). I'm not sure what their final preorder discount price will be (MP Wheeljack is discounted at 8% off whereas Bumblebee is 25% off), and shipping from Amazon JP would be cheaper... ah bugger it, preorder from Anime Export! ;) (I can always cancel it and preorder from Amazon if they offer a competitive discount + yummy bonus item... but I can live without the bonus content if it means paying less for the toy :p)

Anime Export will want payment upfront and canceling will be difficult.

[yoshi594]

Anime Export will want payment upfront and canceling will be difficult.

I didn't have a problem cancelling my "jump the gun" preorder of Premium edition TF4 prime; all it took was an email.

[GoktimusPrime]

Anime Export will want payment upfront and canceling will be difficult.
Eh, worse case scenario I end up w/ 2 Ultra Magni and sell off the spare. Shouldn't be too hard. ;)

[drifand]

Anime Export will want payment upfront and canceling will be difficult.

I went with Nippon Yasan. pretty decent price with heaps of shipping options.

[Tober]

Eh, worse case scenario I end up w/ 2 Ultra Magni and sell off the spare. Shouldn't be too hard. ;)

Fair enough. :)

I've never had to cancel from AE. but from what I remember their policy is that they don't allow cancellations.

[kaiden]

Smokescreen was out on time and his release was December 14

Soundwave was December 15? but then got delayed to January and with Ultra Magnus being a new mold might have the same problem.

Whereas Smokescreen is a retool and most likely wouldn't have had the same issues.

Also Wheeljack is in August and Bumblebee November, so yeah I'm skeptical about them keeping UM's date but I preordered from AE just earlier today. :rolleyes:

Thanks to everyone for the links :)

[drifand]

Well HLJ limits 10 per customer, that's sounds like excessive stock?

[drifand]

wrong post section.

[Defcon]

Preordered yay!!! refering to Ultra Magnus by the way. Looks amazing, and love the price :)

[theshape]

So what's the best place to pre order factoring shipping to aus? Nippon? Will rk or chimunmung be more expensive?

[drifand]

So what's the best place to pre order factoring shipping to aus? Nippon? Will rk or chimunmung be more expensive?

depends on the shipping you after. each to their own here. Generally one can risk $30 to save $30.

[Hursticon]

Preorders now available at EhobbyBaseShop (http://ehobbybaseshop.com/index.php?sp=&p=6&cat2=2&cat1=3&cat0=3&id=1003&cat1=3&cat0=3&new=&more=&lang=en). :cool:

[Megatran]

Preorders now available at EhobbyBaseShop (http://ehobbybaseshop.com/index.php?sp=&p=6&cat2=2&cat1=3&cat0=3&id=1003&cat1=3&cat0=3&new=&more=&lang=en). :cool:

Thanks Hursti.

Price is US$152.99

Shipping cost:
Air Parcel US$48 (total US$200.99)
EMS US$72 (total US$224.99)

[Dinkydarth]

I'm thinking of preordering UM, BB and WJ... any suggestions as to the best place online? I've only dealt with HLJ in the past, and they have closed preorders for BB and WJ...

Looked up Nippon Yasan, and shipping looks ok 5400yen for EMS...

Any suggestions would be much appreciated...

[drifand]

I'm thinking of preordering UM, BB and WJ... any suggestions as to the best place online? I've only dealt with HLJ in the past, and they have closed preorders for BB and WJ...

Looked up Nippon Yasan, and shipping looks ok 5400yen for EMS...

Any suggestions would be much appreciated...

take it, is fine.I buy from them all the time with HLJ or Amiami as other choices.

[Dinkydarth]

re Nippon-Yassan... Ok, so good shipping rates, reliable, good packaging?

Is they're shipping estimate accurate? ie. they are not going to increase shipping rates later?

and which shipping is good? is JP post Eco packets OK if I wanna save some cash?

[drifand]

re Nippon-Yassan... Ok, so good shipping rates, reliable, good packaging?

Is they're shipping estimate accurate? ie. they are not going to increase shipping rates later?

and which shipping is good? is JP post Eco packets OK if I wanna save some cash?

I use Eco many times even for expensive items. Note though, they are not liable if they lost the parcel. I am using parcel locker, so I have no issues. yet.
On the plus, you find that EMS is only 4 days faster at times.

[yoshi594]

Nippon-yasan don't ship immediately. It took them a 2-3 weeks or so to package and ship me my 64gb memory card for my vita. Website says it should take 3-4 days to pack and ship, guess my vita memory card was hard to find :P

also make sure u choose an option with tracking and insurance, otherwise u'll be sweating :P

[Dinkydarth]

reluctant to commit to preordering though... is there much advantage in preordering? Does the price jump up after they get released? and will they have to wait until all 3 come in stock before shipping them out?

[UltraMarginal]

I have preordered through Anime-Export, I'm planning on shipping my BB, Wheeljack and magnus all together, however I can see Magnus being a little delayed so I might not be able to.

I love your digibashing Paulbot, nice work, makes it a lot easier to look at.


I never had a Magnus as a kid, I only ever got the reissue and I was surprised how little the cab was involved in the final robot. In My mind Magnus was only ever a single entity.

When I was reading the Dreamwave comics years ago now, when magnus was gunned down and the "white prime" version of magnus rose from the rubble to finish the job, it blew my mind. I thought it was a brilliant take on the old toy design.

Having said that I don't care that this magnus doesn't appear to have a seperate cab robot mode. Whats more important to me is the overall transformation being interesting and both modes being of a high level of articulation and "representation".

I am stoked at the masterpiece releases due this year, if they manage to get them all out before 2015 they are going to have a big job topping it the following year. I'd go so far as to suggest it's nearly time for some MP Constructicons or something along those lines.

[drifand]

reluctant to commit to preordering though... is there much advantage in preordering? Does the price jump up after they get released? and will they have to wait until all 3 come in stock before shipping them out?

There is for "some" products, for example the madness of ordering a Macross YF-30 was jumped from 19800yen to 20200 yen.

Then again, they could have sale and get it cheaper.

I have NO issues using shipping without insurance. Yes, is all a risk, you weigh up how much you save and how much it cost you if something goes wrong.
items bought from Nippon Yasan - 15>, item lost or damage? -0
But remember, I am using a parcel locker so nobody can steal it from a locker, but for an address they will leave it at your door step.

[theshape]

If you pay by paypal or credit card surely you can claim a not received dispute and get a charge back. Isn't it the senders responsibility the package arrives safely? Many places wont send internationally without tracking any more because of this.

[UltraMarginal]

reluctant to commit to preordering though... is there much advantage in preordering? Does the price jump up after they get released? and will they have to wait until all 3 come in stock before shipping them out?

with the last few MP figures, some/a lot of pre-orders have sold out with excess stock selling out in a matter of days once they arrive in store.

there are a few Japanese sites now, anime-export, amiami, robot kingdom that have quite competetive pre-order prices. so if you don't have a high interest savings account, or an offset homeloan, spending $130 now instead of $150 -$200 in December might be worth your while. Some places don't ask for money until they get stock (BBTS) but they tend to be more expensive.

[Dinkydarth]

What about Amazon Jp? I've had a lot of good experience with Amazon.com... they usually send out preorder Items when they become available. Wonder if the jp site does the same?

Don't want to have to wait for UM to come out to get all 3 MPs shipped!

[drifand]

What about Amazon Jp? I've had a lot of good experience with Amazon.com... they usually send out preorder Items when they become available. Wonder if the jp site does the same?

Don't want to have to wait for UM to come out to get all 3 MPs shipped!

They don't ship to Aust. Only Japan.

[GoktimusPrime]

What about Amazon Jp? I've had a lot of good experience with Amazon.com... they usually send out preorder Items when they become available. Wonder if the jp site does the same?
I often use Amazon Japan.

Advantages:
+ Free shipping to anywhere in Japan.
+ Often offer discount prices for MPs with discount price guarantee (i.e. if you preorder before the discount price is advertised, they will still sell you the toy at the discounted price)
+ Sometimes include exclusive bonus content

Disadvantages:
+ They do not ship outside of Japan.
+ Discount rates are not consistent. I've experienced discounts as little as 8% to as much as 25%

I personally like using Amazon Japan, but as I said, the biggest discount I've had with an MP was 25% and Anime Export's discount rate is currently 35%. I've preordered with AE, but if Amazon Japan's discount price proves to be competitive, then I might go and preorder from Amazon JP and either attempt to cancel my AE preorder or just buy two toys and sell off the spare to a fellow Aussie collector. :)

P.S.: I just checked Amazon Japan, they have advertised their discount rate now -- 24% (14824JPY; AU$156), whereas Anime Export's price is 12600JPY (AU$133). There doesn't seem to be any exclusive bonus content announced, but IMHO the previous exclusive stuff haven't really been worth paying an extra premium for.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP22-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9/dp/B00JWGI08C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398515513&sr=8-1&keywords=%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%8 3%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88% E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9

[Trent]

Liampope over on TFW posted this. It is his thinking on how the arm transforms. Pretty damn impressive if true. But we won't know until its in hand.


OK - wife back in UK, nowt to do, MP-22 OCD. I give you... the awesomeness of MP-22's arms! :)
http://i.imgur.com/gDJVgOY.jpg

If anyone hasn't sussed out the transformation yet, I think this is how it goes. On first glance with the blurry photos it looked like it all slides like G1, but in fact its totally different and way more clever - like an MP should be.

First this little flap can fold in - split and pin just visible on hi-res pics. Took me a while to work out why...
http://i.imgur.com/EZ9FSCF.jpg

Folding the big shoulder plate down G1 style reveals lots of hollow. It's all necessary but you cant see any of it in alt mode as it's underneath the deck, and it will all be hidden in bot mode. The end plate rotates out bringing the missile with it...
http://i.imgur.com/H6PVCOj.jpg

The end plate flips 180 then folds down onto the arm. Missile pivots round and mounts into the centre of the plate...
http://i.imgur.com/yrpCRLR.jpg

Now the cool bit. The arm rotates round 180 degrees round and inside itself...
http://i.imgur.com/pxoCrbs.jpg

You can see what that first little panel flipped in for now. With that out the way and both those inner and outer arm boxes hollow, there is tonnes of space for a big fat shoulder joint to live (represented by that big cylinder)! Wouldn't have been possible if this upper arm was a sliding transformation. This is very cool as it means there is hope for a nice shoulder joint that pulls out like MP-10 and has good articulation. Awesome design...
http://i.imgur.com/np8TsX1.jpg

Now the whole arm rotates back round to point the right way...
http://i.imgur.com/bZTytmR.jpg

The shoulder post end cap which was stowed on the side has a double pivot and folds 270 degrees onto the top of the post...
http://i.imgur.com/xJLgUVU.jpg

The forearm looks like it could still have just slid back, but looking at the central split and the pivots you can see up his sleeve in one pic, I think it must split and orbit round like this. This is just Hasui showing off :)...
http://i.imgur.com/1WsfEmw.jpg

I thought that was it till I realised how ridiculously far back the arms were and it didn't look like the pics. The arms must slide forwards!! If you look at some of the alt mode hi res pics carefully you can see the slider. It moves a good inch forwards...
http://i.imgur.com/6NmF250.jpg

Comparing my model arm in the forward position, it matches the pics OK. So I think that slide is a definite. Would have looked awful without it to be honest...
http://i.imgur.com/HVtLbFR.jpg

And one final feature - the missile can mount to the front of the end plate also with no partsforming...
http://i.imgur.com/Fi2ObND.jpg

Quick summary of cool stuff...
- Plenty of space made for a decent strong shoulder joint
- The arm slides forwards!
- The missile is a triple changer without partsforming!
- Hasui is a total genius

Totally awesome design - the guy is riding a wave. Can't wait to have this in my hands. Can't believe how long we have to wait :(

[Dinkydarth]

I often use Amazon Japan.

Advantages:
+ Free shipping to anywhere in Japan.
+ Often offer discount prices for MPs with discount price guarantee (i.e. if you preorder before the discount price is advertised, they will still sell you the toy at the discounted price)
+ Sometimes include exclusive bonus content

Disadvantages:
+ They do not ship outside of Japan.
+ Discount rates are not consistent. I've experienced discounts as little as 8% to as much as 25%

I personally like using Amazon Japan, but as I said, the biggest discount I've had with an MP was 25% and Anime Export's discount rate is currently 35%. I've preordered with AE, but if Amazon Japan's discount price proves to be competitive, then I might go and preorder from Amazon JP and either attempt to cancel my AE preorder or just buy two toys and sell off the spare to a fellow Aussie collector. :)

P.S.: I just checked Amazon Japan, they have advertised their discount rate now -- 24% (14824JPY; AU$156), whereas Anime Export's price is 12600JPY (AU$133). There doesn't seem to be any exclusive bonus content announced, but IMHO the previous exclusive stuff haven't really been worth paying an extra premium for.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-MP22-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%8 2%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9/dp/B00JWGI08C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398515513&sr=8-1&keywords=%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%8 3%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88% E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%8A%E3%82%B9


Ummm, I'm assuming you use a freight forwarding service? If so, which one? And what are their rates like?

[oscarino]

Liampope over on TFW posted this. It is his thinking on how the arm transforms. Pretty damn impressive if true. But we won't know until its in hand.

IF anyone wants to jump in on a pre-order I have my name down for three.
They come in boxes 4 per pack. So room to get in if there is a bulk buying option.

PM me if ur keen

[jazzcomp]

Is hasbro releasing one as well?

[jazzcomp]

IF anyone wants to jump in on a pre-order I have my name down for three.
They come in boxes 4 per pack. So room to get in if there is a bulk buying option.

PM me if ur keen
Where did you preorder? Depending on price, I may be interested. You dont have PM yet. Do you want email contact?

[drifand]

Is hasbro releasing one as well?

Me thinks yes, actually I think there seems to be a huge stock available for this piece. But Hasbro will release it later probably and definitely TRU again

[Defcon]

I agree stock will be plentiful. I think they would of caught up by now, by going off previous sales of previous masterpieces. Especially with this one, since fan demand for this piece has been there for years. I expect Bumblebee to be plentiful also.

[k.wong23]

HLJ because they allow payment only when the item is in stock!

[GoktimusPrime]

Ummm, I'm assuming you use a freight forwarding service?
No, I have friends in Japan. ;) I find Amazon Japan is a good option if you have contacts in Japan, but for those who don't, there are other good online retailers like Amiami and HLJ. My Ultra Magnus order will be my first purchase from AE, so I don't know what their service is like yet. :o

Is hasbro releasing one as well?
I'd say it's too early to tell, but my feeling is that they will since there's no licensing issue with Freightliner.

[Hursticon]

Lastly, preorders are now up over at Chimungmung (http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php?products_id=1753&osCsid=eunb7mjovomm1q1bcq1pjm38m1). :cool:

[canofwhoopass_87]

Ah the higher resolution pics do him much more justice. Price is half of what I was anticipating too!

December cannot come soon enough; although this would make a great Christmas present!

[kurdt_the_goat]

Liampope over on TFW posted this. It is his thinking on how the arm transforms. Pretty damn impressive if true. But we won't know until its in hand.

I was going back and forth ... I love Magnus & MP line, but he's so huge and my shelf space is already at a premium... But the price & this guess at the arm transformation sold me :)


P.S.: I just checked Amazon Japan, they have advertised their discount rate now -- 24% (14824JPY; AU$156), whereas Anime Export's price is 12600JPY (AU$133).

Right now Amazon's price has dropped again 13,334Y, tho my order was placed at 14,824Y and for some reason it's still showing that price, despite the preorder price guarantee i've spoken of in the past. I think i might have just caught it before the change trickles down to my account, but will be keeping an eye on it just in case!

Either way, damn happy with the price... was expecting way more considering how overpriced MP10 was!

Edit: Yup, price for my order has dropped to 13,334Y now (1 day later). Weird that there's a delay between the product page and my order, but hey, at least it works :)

[Bidoofdude]

With Takara's price already being generally low ($155 give or take), how much do you think they'll counter with? Optimus was $150 with trailer here, so I'm interested to see how it goes. I'd be happy paying $150 for it here, but I hope they go a little bit lower than TakTom.

[Trent]

With Takara's price already being generally low ($155 give or take), how much do you think they'll counter with? Optimus was $150 with trailer here, so I'm interested to see how it goes. I'd be happy paying $150 for it here, but I hope they go a little bit lower than TakTom.

It won't necessarily be lower. While that has been the case in the past it looks to be ending with Hasbro's Prowl release. I'd say $150 is as low as it will get (not including sales).

[drifand]

I wouldn't be sure how long will you wait before Hasbro releases any news about this though. If you are happy to pay the current Takara version I would have gone for it.

[Dkaris]

almost pe ordered black night grimlock but then saw a post about this guy. been waiting for an MP ultra magnus for ages so pre ordered him on hlj

[Hursticon]

almost pe ordered black night grimlock but then saw a post about this guy. been waiting for an MP ultra magnus for ages so pre ordered him on hlj

Exactly where I preordered mine from dude, glad you were able to get in on him - Can't wait huh? :cool:

[twincobra]

I pre-ordered two of these from amiami just out of excitement. :D

[Trent]

Detachable cab. Nice.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/Wrxus/27c61d2e7ec3d75e88767c4b1edd1a09.jpg

Courtesy of TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/982723-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-prototype-70.html#post11019225)

[Sinnertwin]

This just gets better & better

[GoktimusPrime]

The text says that Ultra Magnus' cab is the same size as MP10 Convoy (though it may not appear that way in the pic because of the way that the page is bent towards the centre :p)

[griffin]

The two full pages (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/clear-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-robot-mode-pics-179991/), showing all sides of the toy in grey.

[1AZRAEL1]

He stands substantially taller than MP10. Not surprising really when the vehicle mode needs to be big enough to fit the MP cars.

I like it.

[Ultra Mackness]

That does look awesome, can't wait for the full colour shots!

[drifand]

I am still amazed that the price was way lower than what it was initially stated.
Considering what mp-10 is and you compare it to this guy, is worth every cent.

[Penetrator]

now I want one too... but it also means i'll need an MP10 to go with it :(

[drifand]

now I want one too... but it also means i'll need an MP10 to go with it :(

That piece will come don't be overly worried, there are a number of us who don't have that.

[Penetrator]

That piece will come don't be overly worried, there are a number of us who don't have that.

was there a thread for the YOTH MP10? Is that still coming to Australia?

[drifand]

was there a thread for the YOTH MP10? Is that still coming to Australia?

There is, and is supposed to be at Myers, as according to Hasbro Australia they already distributed them to Myers back in Feb. We have not seen any sightings of it though, nor Myers have bothered replying to emails.

But I hate the colors of YOTH MP-10 anyway.

[Penetrator]

There is, and is supposed to be at Myers, as according to Hasbro Australia they already distributed them to Myers back in Feb. We have not seen any sightings of it though, nor Myers have bothered replying to emails.

But I hate the colors of YOTH MP-10 anyway.

I do prefer the original colours

guess i just dig the clear trailer lol

or otherwise, just have to wait and see if taktom will reissue the mp10

actually just saw this...

http://www.toysrus.com/buy/movies-music-tv/transformers-platinum-edition-optimus-prime-year-of-the-horse-figure-a7286-24312936

[griffin]

That's the one that should be in Myer within the month. They were originally planning to have it out in March, but then pushed it back to May to capitalise on the movie interest.

[Sinnertwin]

I'm thinking it'll be $129.95

Just realised i posted this in theMagnus thread instead of the YoTH OP
Dont mind me :o

[Megatran]

I'm thinking it'll be $129.95

Just realised i posted this in theMagnus thread instead of the YoTH OP
Dont mind me :o

That's a decent price for YOTH Optimus at Myer, given TRU USA is selling theirs for the same price but in US dollars.

And sorry about continuing on the discussion in this thread. Would appreciate it if a Mod/Admin can move the post to the Myer YOTH Optimus thread.

[drifand]

I have bumped the other thread. Lets keep this back to Magnus. :)
No issues here.

[UltraMarginal]

I pre-ordered Magnus as soon as I could at Anime-Export, and every new pic that's turning up is making that look like a better and better decision.

I'm loving the look of this. Clear windows in the chest is a very interesting element.

[Sinnertwin]

I pre-ordered Magnus as soon as I could at Anime-Export, and every new pic that's turning up is making that look like a better and better decision.

I'm loving the look of this. Clear windows in the chest is a very interesting element.

The transluscent windows should be dark pinkish as seen in TFTM when he opens up his Matrix Chamber, or a solid red like his torso in the cartoon

[AJ_Prime]

This guy is going to be incredibly popular, the teaser images being gradually released just make the collector anticipation that much greater. I really hope that TRU order a decent number of this figure, otherwise I fear we will have another MP Soundwave epidemic on our hands...

[Bidoofdude]

He's looking very promising. I'd pay way more than $150 for that.

[Dkaris]

is anime-export currently the cheapest pre order option?

[Penetrator]

is it confirmed that the cab does or does not transform into a robot?

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

I just pre ordered mine from Anime Export. Im just confused if the price $138 AUD is a part payment or the end price.

Anyone know?

[AJ_Prime]

is it confirmed that the cab does or does not transform into a robot?

The cab is just a shell that folds up onto his back. The whole thing turns into the robot which is simply awesome!

Oh and even better, the cab detaches from the trailer! They've thought of everything!!

[Trent]

I just pre ordered mine from Anime Export. Im just confused if the price $138 AUD is a part payment or the end price.

Anyone know?

That's the full price. He's a bargain for sure! :D

[Holdobot]

I pre-ordered Magnus as soon as I could at Anime-Export, and every new pic that's turning up is making that look like a better and better decision.

I'm loving the look of this. Clear windows in the chest is a very interesting element.

Thanks for the heads up, pre order for $189 at BBTS cancelled, order at Anime-Export for $138, Done :D

[Tober]

I just pre ordered mine from Anime Export. Im just confused if the price $138 AUD is a part payment or the end price.

Anyone know?

That's the full price for the toy. They will send you an email with shipping options and costs when it is in stock.

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

WOWZER! Thats a great price, i was expecting somewhere toward the $200 + delivery.

[1AZRAEL1]

Can't wait for him. He looks great.

They've got 2 or 3 repaints that they could do off the top of my would be the all blue, all yellow, and early movie colours. But they all seem kinda obscure to most, so I'd put my money on another black repaint :p

[Blastwave]

WOWZER! Thats a great price, i was expecting somewhere toward the $200 + delivery.

It really is a great price, I wanted to order Bumblebee too but Anime-Export have sold through on him and I don't want to double up on shipping. Ordered them both with Nippon Yasan which is slightly more expensive but still less than $190 for the pair.

[Trent]

Can't wait for him. He looks great.

They've got 2 or 3 repaints that they could do off the top of my would be the all blue, all yellow, and early movie colours. But they all seem kinda obscure to most, so I'd put my money on another black repaint :p

I'd be all over a black Magnus :)

[MayzaPrime]

I will be getting any repaint Magnus! :D

[FAPOS]

Do you have to pay for preorders immediately with Anime Export... or when they get them in stock?

Just read FAQ... looks like upfront. 7 months is a long time to wait for something!!

[Sinnertwin]

Do you have to pay for preorders immediately with Anime Export... or when they get them in stock?

Just read FAQ... looks like upfront. 7 months is a long time to wait for something!!

Try other stores like HLJ etc if you're not comfortable prepaying.
You're forking out a bit extra, but they charge you when it is in stock
They'll pump out a million of these suckers, so finding one in 7 months time shouldn't be an issue anyway. Then there will be the inevitable second production run

[drifand]

And in honesty HLJ is still below RRP price. so you trade up which way works for you best.

[kurdt_the_goat]

New shot from Figure King showing (extra?) hands holding the Matrix, alternate faceplate and Daniel & Adult Spike figs inside the cab.

http://i.imgur.com/Ztuq3fm.jpg

Also lineart from Generations 2014:

http://i.imgur.com/hOAFS7gl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/hOAFS7g.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/uxjGDOCl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/uxjGDOC.jpg)

Also user Deruji (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/982723-masterpiece-ultra-magnus-prototype-331.html#post11048732) on TFW has translated an interview from the same book that divulges both Hasui and Kobayashi worked on UM, and their troubles developing it.


Kobayashi: MP-03 Starscream became the preparation for deciding Rodimus' size, but also due to there being Masterpiece King Ex-Kaiser.
We considered his great transformation and that he was smaller than MP1 and thought it was a good balance to have that kind of size. So those after Rodimus should inherit that basic size feeling.

Hasui: Because we planned on including MP10's trailer, we were aware of the question of what kind of car robot size should be able to go in. Because it's Convoy after all, there should exist some car robots with that size.

Q: It was thought that the way to go for the formal license for Lambor should be like Binaltech.

Kobayashi: Binaltech transforms from real cars but the actual way of thinking was different.

Hasui: The differences of their approach came not just from our ideas but also through the differences in our environment and the period of time we were in. Until I made the 2007 movie figures, no real car transformers were being made. (can't read the last part with about Binaltech)

Q: Speaking of that, how was it with Bumble's car mode? Up to that point it was thought that he was a character that didn't get along with that kind of logic.

Hasui: I had wanted to do the deformed version but it might have complicated the negotiations with the licensor. It's a robot that transforms itself into a "Wagen", not having it be a "Volkswagen" was unknown territory. We didn't know if he would be accepted if he were deformed or not. It was a possibillity of losing that long awaited chance. So it became an achievement to make a robot that transforms from a delicate "Wagen".

Q: Because of that, the scale of the car mode was adjusted, right?

Hasui: Because of this next task, the team was really divided into two opinions. There was also the opinion that because it's a real car, it should scale with Lambor and the others. But I thought that because it's Bumble "If he is not small, then it is not Bumble". Because the smaller size wouldn't change the amount of parts, it was decided to keep him small

Q: About the Masterpiece that succeeds those - The hoped for Ultra Magnus

Kobayashi: It came to be that I took over mid-way, because Hasui couldn't make a figure that turned into an internal MP-10. (Note: Not clear if Hasui's ability is meant or the opportunity, you have to read the rest of the interview to understand this part better)

Hasui: Beyond continuing car robots, I thought there was another goal. Magnus and the car robots had a similar relation as Soundwave and the Cassettetrons. That's why I thought that Magnus should be able to hold up to 4 cars. That's why I handed it over.

Kobayashi: Upon taking over, I examined if it should be a transformation like the animation or with an internal MP-10. I thought about the value it would have if it were like the toy version, it would have been enjoyable with an internal toy. But that was only half of it, Magnus had the misfortune of not having a toy with the animation transformation. And there were fans that liked the animation Magnus with an all-in-one transformation. No matter how we thought, there were two versions.

Hasui: For myself, I imagined both. That there would be armor but that the trailer would have a one-piece transformation, that it could change into all. I had that idea, but there were several cost factors and the ease of transformation to consider, so we settled for the current figure.

Kobayashi: The last decisive blow was to keep the costs low. Our idea was to keep the costs low, so that more people could have the figure.

Q: How do you feel about the Masterpieces from now on?

Hasui: From my current standpoint, the Cybertron side has a considerable army and I would like to increase the Destron side.

[kaiden]

thanks kurdt

looks like Ultra Magnus comes with 2 faces - normal and 'matrix open' face.
the missiles look to be hinged and non removable.

looks like this will be the #1 xmas present this year.

[ITZTRU]

Hasui: From my current standpoint, the Cybertron side has a considerable army and I would like to increase the Destron side.

Oh God yes, more decepticons please!

[Blastwave]

Hasui: From my current standpoint, the Cybertron side has a considerable army and I would like to increase the Destron side.

Oh God yes, more decepticons please!

I'm going to need a Galvatron to go with Ultra Magnus. :D

[Penetrator]

How hard is it to quit buying toys when they release stuff like this!!!

pre-ordered. :mad:

[ITZTRU]

I'm going to need a Galvatron to go with Ultra Magnus. :D

Galvatron would be INSANE. I would kill for Galvatron. Personally, I would have paired him with Rodimus Prime myself, but Magnus works too :)

[Sainter4Life]

Ultra Magnus looks awesome it's a must for me. :D

[drifand]

Galvatron would be INSANE. I would kill for Galvatron. Personally, I would have paired him with Rodimus Prime myself, but Magnus works too :)

It would be, considering we have rodimus, it be good to see Galvatron as Megatron is a harder sell in most Western Countries. due to gun laws.

[Sinnertwin]

How hard is it to quit buying toys when they release stuff like this!!!

pre-ordered. :mad:

Fighting it will only make it worse ;) :p

[Magnus]

Bring on the colour pics!


Galvatron would be INSANE. I would kill for Galvatron. Personally, I would have paired him with Rodimus Prime myself, but Magnus works too :)

Definitely up for Galvatron, but I'd like to see Cyclonus, myself; that way, both sides will have the leader and second-in-command :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Don't forget that you can nominate which characters you'd like to see made as future MPs on Q.38 in TakaraTOMY's online customer feedback survey (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=201). :)

[Hursticon]

Don't forget that you can nominate which characters you'd like to see made as future MPs on Q.38 in TakaraTOMY's online customer feedback survey (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=201). :)

Don't be put off, Goki has broken down exactly what needs to be done in order to submit said survey - Now go on and cast your vote for a Masterpiece Reflector! :D:cool:

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

More pics up - images courtesy of Seibertron.com (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/further-images-takara-transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus/30304/)

It's kind of petty, I know, but...surely it wouldn't have been too hard to have had that butt-flap fold away into the backpack somehow?

[Sky Shadow]

I won't be using the dull-surprise face.

[Hursticon]

It's kind of petty, I know, but...surely it wouldn't have been too hard to have had that butt-flap fold away into the backpack somehow?

Could it be a result of the Designer/Engineer handover perhaps?

[CBratron]

I actually like the tailcoat. My gripe is his chest is too big.

[kurdt_the_goat]

More pics up - images courtesy of Seibertron.com (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/further-images-takara-transformers-masterpiece-mp22-ultra-magnus/30304/)

It's kind of petty, I know, but...surely it wouldn't have been too hard to have had that butt-flap fold away into the backpack somehow?

I'm not a fan either and agree it'd be easily fixable, which makes me think it's been left like that on purpose. Magnus in the cartoon does have a blue butt piece that is taller than his 'belt', so maybe they just thought 'that'll do!'.

If it doesn't fold up some more, i just hope it's not on a loose hinge. It's pretty much a given that he'll be a bit difficult to handle anyway, with his size and thick kibble-esque pieces everywhere.

I'm most worried about the shin pieces (trailer ramp) that leave a gap from his actual leg. If they're unable to be pushed back flush against his leg, it might be at risk of breakage if you pick him up from the legs.

[kup]

Although the MP cars have been fine, I am still a bit suspicious of the quality of the larger MPs. I am fearing a repeat of MP Rodimus in which we get an unrefined beta like final version with many flaws or odd decisions that they never got around to fixing.

The butt kibble thing, reminds me of that lack of refinement/lazy engineering.

[kaiden]

i think the butt flap can be positioned 90̊ up but that's probably not much of an improvement