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griffin
31st March 2014, 02:59 PM
We've had a few figures show up early here (Construct-Bots, Titans, Battle Masters), but now some of the mainline figures are showing up in the hands of fans in other countries... and they are showing them off with pics and reviews.

Voyager Grimlock (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-grimlock-review-179588/)

Voyager Optimus (Evasion Mode) (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-evasion-mode-optimus-prime-review-179587/) (barely bigger than a Gen1 Optimus, who is almost the same size of pre-2011 Deluxes)

First Wave Deluxes (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-deluxe-wave-1-in-hand-image-179586/)


Plus, some have also been releasing official images (probably from a retail source).
Voyager Galvatron and Hound (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-galvatron-hound-official-photos-179585/) & DLX Slash (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-voyager-hound-and-deluxe-slash-in-package-images-179583/)

Deonasis
31st March 2014, 04:59 PM
Add a good paint job on these figures and they would really look nice. Evasion Prime looks extremely bare.

griffin, did you get to "test" these figures at ToyFair?

Paulbot
31st March 2014, 05:13 PM
Hmm. Classic Prime looks like an okay deluxe, not sure as a Voyager!

Grimlock on the other hand looks quite alright. Although this should have been the Then and Now pack (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/7/0/1/2/3/VoyGrim10_1396224274.jpg)!

morg176
31st March 2014, 06:47 PM
I liked the figure when i saw the hasbro picture of it, but the in hand images make me hope its on special...

It should look all dusted up and rusty like prime in the movie

griffin
1st April 2014, 12:19 AM
griffin, did you get to "test" these figures at ToyFair?

Not as much as Demonac did.
I thought they were okay... but they just felt small for their size classes.

Deonasis
1st April 2014, 01:56 AM
Hmm. Classic Prime looks like an okay deluxe, not sure as a Voyager![/URL]!



I thought they were okay... but they just felt small for their size classes.

Further posts in the linked tfw thread show Evasion Prime to be bigger than DotM Megatron and possibly as big as Classics voyager Prime - maybe the lack of bulk gives it a small feel.

DELTAprime
1st April 2014, 06:54 AM
No wonder people at NYCC last year said the Leader Generations Optimus is small. Looks like they are all small. I hope this is confined to the movie Generations line and not a sign of whats to come for the IDW Generations line.

BigTransformerTrev
1st April 2014, 09:57 AM
We've had a few figures show up early here (Construct-Bots, Titans, Battle Masters), but now some of the mainline figures are showing up in the hands of fans in other countries... and they are showing them off with pics and reviews.

Voyager Grimlock (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-grimlock-review-179588/)


Do we know yet if we are going to get a Leader-Class Grimlock, or is Voyager the biggest? I vaguely remember seeing a massive Grimlock in some other post.

ILikeSoundwave
1st April 2014, 10:02 AM
Do we know yet if we are going to get a Leader-Class Grimlock, or is Voyager the biggest? I vaguely remember seeing a massive Grimlock in some other post.

There is a leader class Grimlock in wave 1.

BigTransformerTrev
1st April 2014, 10:10 AM
There is a leader class Grimlock in wave 1.

Cheers ILS :)

griffin
1st April 2014, 01:51 PM
Further posts in the linked tfw thread show Evasion Prime to be bigger than DotM Megatron and possibly as big as Classics voyager Prime - maybe the lack of bulk gives it a small feel.

That kinda proves it is smaller than average Voyagers.
The Classics Voyager Optimus was noted from the very beginning by Hasbro designers that it was too small for a Voyager, but too big for a Deluxe (to make a profit from that size-class price point), so they tried to bulk it up as much as possible with the two guns. (I guess the robot mode had to be in scale with Megatron and other Deluxes, which left the truck and total mass a bit small for Voyager)

And DOTM Megatron has a quarter of its bulk in the mechtech weapon, making the robot a lot smaller than previous movie Voyager Megatrons (which was likely to be a strategic gimmick to reduce the size of the actual figures from then on by including a large weapon in that year to give the total "product" the same size, but then following years the toy remains the same without a large weapon).
2007 TF1 VOY Megatron - 226gms
2009 TF2 VOY Megatron - 209gms
2011 TF3 VOY Megatron - 120gms (plus 45gms for the mechtech gun & rubber cloak)
Even including the accessories, the third movie toy was still smaller by 40-60gms (about 20%) on the first two.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b791.jpg

griffin
3rd April 2014, 08:29 PM
Looks like some stores in Canada are also being sent stock too early, and they are not noting the embargo date on the toy boxes. Some first wave Voyagers and Deluxes appearing at Walmart in Canada (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-age-of-extinction-toys-found-at-canadian-retail-179614/)... which is surprising to see Walmart let those slip through, as they would be a big enough chain to prevent that from happening (unlike Toyworlds here, Walmart are so integrated and have so many levels for the stock to go through before it walks out the door, so this should have been picked up before it even got to the store shelves).
And considering the amount of attention Hasbro Australia got from Hasbro HK and Hasbro America when our Movie toys appeared at Toyworlds, there should have been a tightening of procedures at Hasbro warehouses around the world.

Bidoofdude
3rd April 2014, 08:53 PM
The deluxes actually look pretty good. Slug and Crosshairs are cool, Scorn is BEAUTIFUL. Bumblebee looks a bit disproportioned, but that's to be expected. Looking forward to them. Evasion Op looks pretty cool too.

griffin
6th April 2014, 06:43 PM
Reviews and images (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-age-of-extinction-in-hand-reviews-of-wave-1-deluxes-179637/) of the first wave Deluxes and the One-step Optimus.

AJ_Prime
9th April 2014, 03:45 PM
In case anyone has missed it, Walmart in Canada has made the error of releasing some of the AoE figures early, and as a result some reviews are up on youtube of some of the first wave toys.

This news was also released on TFW2005.com and Seibertron.com.

Here are some links and credits:

- Voyager Optimus Evasion Mode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig_4FCJw5kA) (Darryl Laughy)
- Voyager Grimlock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1824699831&feature=iv&src_vid=l-pyE_Yc4Fg&v=ngxIqIWxHj4) (Vangelus)
- Deluxe Slug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2965814837&feature=iv&src_vid=ogD2FMlNjtk&v=l-pyE_Yc4Fg) (Vangelus)
- Deluxe Scorn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogD2FMlNjtk) (Vangelus)
- Deluxe Crosshairs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJLMeOhShM) (allanmonster111)

Crosshairs is quite disappointing, although it seems a lot of people like him. The other figures look amazing though, and I can't wait to get my hands on them in May!

reillyd
9th April 2014, 07:18 PM
I didn't have any interest in buying yet another movie Prime, but that video sold me on the toy. Check towards the end for a g1 size comparison. Despite smaller size for the movie toys, Evasion Prime is actually BIGGER

ILikeSoundwave
9th April 2014, 07:44 PM
The one I'm most excited for is Crosshairs, definitely getting him first day.

CBratron
10th April 2014, 04:52 PM
Another Crosshairs review (http://youtu.be/evrou6nShgg), this time by Vangelus.

And High Octane Bumble Bee (http://youtu.be/53kGnRVRgIg)

morg176
10th April 2014, 07:09 PM
the version of evasion prime that has the red shoulders and grey/silver biceps is way better than the blue shoulders version, takara?

griffin
11th April 2014, 01:37 PM
So many AOE toys are showing up on ebay now, with many from Canada as more stores seem to be putting the toys straight on shelves as soon as they arrive (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-age-of-extinction-toys-street-date-broken-179673/) (either not noticing or caring about the embargo date if they are short on space to sit on stock for over a month).

One person is trying to sell 4 DLX, 2 VOY and 3 Titans (the non-transformable ones) for over a GRAND!
That's US$140 of toys listed on ebay for US$1080.... damn, scalperish much?


So far, those really keen on the TF4 movie toys could have been able to get wave one of the following from different countries...
- Deluxe (Bbee, Crosshairs, Scorn, Slug)
- Voyager (Grimlock, Optimus)
- Titan 12 inch (Drift, Lockdown, Bbee, Optimus)
- Construct Bots Riders (Bbee, Lockdown, Drift, Optimus)
- Construct Bots Dinobots (Slug, Grimlock, Strafe)
- Flip-n-Change (Optimus, Grimlock)
And maybe some of the other gimmick lines as well.

griffin
13th April 2014, 01:37 PM
Leader Class Grimlock has now ended up in fan hands, and a gallery can be seen here (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-leader-grimlock-in-hand-review-179683/).

griffin
14th April 2014, 01:26 AM
The Power-Attack gimmick toys are being found in American ToysRUs stores now (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-age-of-extinction-power-attackers-hound-bumblebee-and-strafe-found-at-us-retail/29899/)... which is another major store not being concerned about embargo dates this time.
If more and more stores start selling the Movie toys as soon as they get them, we might have Hasbro just tell all stores that they can sell straight away as well (which I think happened with one of the earlier movies).

DELTAprime
14th April 2014, 02:48 PM
Peaugh (https://www.youtube.com/user/peaugh) has half of his first wave reviews up. I'm feeling a little more positive about the first wave after seeing them. Still only going to pick up Leader Prime, the two Deluxe Bee's and that DOTM Soundwave from Takara.

griffin
5th May 2014, 03:51 PM
As stores here are releasing the toys early, TRU in America had put out their Movie Kreo sets, and were promptly told to remove them from the shelves and from the computer (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/kre-o-42/age-of-extinction-grimlock-street-attack-set-found-at-retail-179882/) to prevent registers being able to process them.

Paulbot
12th May 2014, 06:35 PM
Have we seen pics of the deluxe Lockdown toy before? I just saw the ones of him, Drift, Strafe and Slash on BBTS (www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23744&mode=retail) and he looks like a slightly more advanced Spychanger. Well I exaggerate, but the point is none of the deluxe Autobot cars in the AOE generations line are looking like winners. :(

ILikeSoundwave
12th May 2014, 06:40 PM
Have we seen pics of the deluxe Lockdown toy before? I just saw the ones of him, Drift, Strafe and Slash on BBTS (www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23744&mode=retail) and he looks like a slightly more advanced Spychanger. Well I exaggerate, but the point is none of the deluxe Autobot cars in the AOE generations line are looking like winners. :(

There was a little peek (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453715994763394&set=o.123318771086717&type=1&theater) of him in the recent Hasbro Transformers designer video.

Paulbot
12th May 2014, 06:53 PM
I'm going with the theory that the Lockdown picture on the listing is incorrect.

kurdt_the_goat
12th May 2014, 06:57 PM
Can i apply the same theory to the Voyager Galvatron?

http://i.imgur.com/Nlh03RPm.jpg

I think i'll settle for just hoping his inclusion leads to a Masterpiece figure :p

griffin
12th May 2014, 07:33 PM
I'm going with the theory that the Lockdown picture on the listing is incorrect.

We saw how the 2-pack deluxe Bumblebee had a similar "shell back", so this one is likely to be following the same format.
It's probably the only way Hasbro can replicate the on-screen designs (flat panel vehicles to highly sculpted robots) without resorting to over-complicated transformations of previous movies that wasn't selling for them.
Now we see if this new simplified format works for them in stores. (even if fans don't like it, it's the other 85-90% of TFs buyers that they care about targeting)

griffin
13th May 2014, 12:27 AM
Looks like it was a place-filler image.
From the Hasbro site is the One-step Lockdown toy (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-age-of-extinction-lockdown-one-step-changer), which is the same.

5FDP
13th May 2014, 08:32 AM
Judging by everything I have seen so far, it's going to be a lean year for me. These AoE toys are just craptacular!

Omega Metro
13th May 2014, 10:14 AM
Judging by everything I have seen so far, it's going to be a lean year for me. These AoE toys are just craptacular!

It's the opposite for me. I think they are great but my bank account doesn't.

Sinnertwin
13th May 2014, 11:12 AM
There not exactly my cup of tea either, but after another look i may pick up Galvatron & Lockdown to repurpose as Motormaster & Wildrider which will bring the grand total of toys i'm after to 6.

Ravagecat
13th May 2014, 01:08 PM
There was a little peek (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453715994763394&set=o.123318771086717&type=1&theater) of him in the recent Hasbro Transformers designer video.

Thought I'd post up said link for those interested...

Hasbro TF DesignersDesk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCpGs0njCw)

Paulbot
13th May 2014, 01:33 PM
Looks like it was a place-filler image.
From the Hasbro site is the One-step Lockdown toy (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-age-of-extinction-lockdown-one-step-changer), which is the same.

This is good news. The bad thing is that I actually believed Hasbro might try to sell such a simple design as a Generations Deluxe. My expectations are obviously quite low.

griffin
13th May 2014, 02:40 PM
After seeing that awful DLX 2014 Camaro Bumblebee, and the Voyager Galvatron that looks like a FAB, I expect figures in later waves will progressively be worse and worse (as the launch wave would have the "better" figures to appeal to the Retailers at Toyfair, and appeal to consumers as a "first impression" element.

Zommael
13th May 2014, 02:45 PM
After seeing that awful DLX 2014 Camaro Bumblebee, and the Voyager Galvatron that looks like a FAB, I expect figures in later waves will progressively be worse and worse (as the launch wave would have the "better" figures to appeal to the Retailers at Toyfair, and appeal to consumers as a "first impression" element.

How does that square with Voyager Hound as a Wave 2 figure? We saw him at the US Toyfair and he looks great!

Omega Metro
13th May 2014, 02:54 PM
How does that square with Voyager Hound as a Wave 2 figure? We saw him at the US Toyfair and he looks great!

He has a beard! That is not great.
I'm hoping the Lockdown deluxe is a decent figure (if ever it eventuates) as I'm a Lamborghini Aventador fan. Please don't stuff it up Hasbro! :(

Deonasis
13th May 2014, 03:31 PM
After seeing that awful DLX 2014 Camaro Bumblebee, and the Voyager Galvatron that looks like a FAB, I expect figures in later waves will progressively be worse and worse (as the launch wave would have the "better" figures to appeal to the Retailers at Toyfair, and appeal to consumers as a "first impression" element.Yes, the "more alien" designs and cost-saving manufacturing look to have resulted in a few shellformers. I am hoping the 2014 Camero needed to be mistransformed to fit in the packaging but sadly recent history would suggest the packaged 2014 Bumblebee meets the current standard of a deluxe.

This armchair designer also thinks Lockdowns transformation can include his huge gun.

Ravagecat
13th May 2014, 03:33 PM
He has a beard! That is not great.
I'm hoping the Lockdown deluxe is a decent figure (if ever it eventuates) as I'm a Lamborghini Aventador fan. Please don't stuff it up Hasbro! :(

Same here :cool: I voted for the aventador way back when they were trying to decide what cars to be in the movie and was happy when I heard it got the go ahead. I really hope the deluxe generations toy of Lockdown is good...fingers and toes crossed :D

Zommael
13th May 2014, 04:06 PM
He has a beard! That is not great.
I'm hoping the Lockdown deluxe is a decent figure (if ever it eventuates) as I'm a Lamborghini Aventador fan. Please don't stuff it up Hasbro! :(

I like the beard, but even if it had a completely different headsculpt that wouldn't make it any less of a great looking toy. It looks well-engineered and well-sculpted, which doesn't fit with Griffin's theory about shoddy toys in later waves.

(The beard is there for good reasons, btw: it's a popular style choice made by members of the US military who drive the sort of vehicle he turns into, so homages them. That's one of the reasons I like the toy so much)

griffin
13th May 2014, 04:32 PM
I like the beard, but even if it had a completely different headsculpt that wouldn't make it any less of a great looking toy. It looks well-engineered and well-sculpted, which doesn't fit with Griffin's theory about shoddy toys in later waves.

I didn't say shoddy toys in later waves... I said that the better looking ones are more likely to be in early waves, as Hasbro has to convince Retailers to order the line based on the first wave on display at Toyfair. It just makes marketing sense to prioritise product that rates well, either by being quality product, or the main characters.
Hound and Galvatron may have been left for the second waves because they are new to the Movie Universe that aren't being featured (like the Dinobots), and the second wave will still be released before the Movie is released. It's just this really early wave (6 weeks before the movie can even promote them to the regular people), that focus on the primary characters or better looking figures.

Deonasis
13th May 2014, 04:56 PM
I think the "later waves" thing is an accurate generalisation. The waves are not decided by awesomeness alone and wave 2 is not immediately worse than wave 1. But each wave tries to have enough "heavy hitters" to sell the wave and get the retailer to order a later wave - this is especially important for wave 1. If wave 1 fails to sell, Hasbro could have the investment of the remaing entire-product-line without a buyer. Ouch.

If all sells well, later waves will start to have some no-name characters appear in them and even though a no-name can have a very cool toy you can bet the designers did not sweat over it as much as the Wave 1 figures. Also, some characters may need to be held back for spoiler reasons.

Omega Metro
13th May 2014, 06:29 PM
What I noticed when the Lego Movie Sets came out about a month before the movie is that they seemed to sit around on the shelves until the movie released. Then suddenly they flew off the shelves! Hopefully this will happen to the wave 1 Transformers toys. Personally, I had no interest in the Lego sets PRIOR to watching the movie then I felt like I had to buy a set after watching.....but I didn't.

Sinnertwin
13th May 2014, 09:46 PM
I'm hoping the Lockdown deluxe is a decent figure (if ever it eventuates) as I'm a Lamborghini Aventador fan. Please don't stuff it up Hasbro! :(

http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEBB1_zps6d2f6525.jpg.html?sort=6&o=9

Thoughts?

And '14 Bumblebee

http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEBB1_zps6d2f6525.jpg.html?sort=6&o=9

griffin
14th May 2014, 12:11 AM
http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEBB1_zps6d2f6525.jpg.html?sort=6&o=9

Thoughts?

And '14 Bumblebee

http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEBB1_zps6d2f6525.jpg.html?sort=6&o=9


The Bumblebee is the Mega One-Step (the mid-size between the Stomp-n-Chomp Grimlock and all the rest One-Step figures), which when displayed at US Toyfair next to the Flip-&-Change Bumblebee, they both looked very similar in size (and both have single-step conversion). They are both big toys, about Leader size.

Your Lockdown link is showing the same Bumblebee picture, so I'm guessing it was the next one along in the folder, which is the One-Step Lockdown.

Ravagecat
15th May 2014, 08:29 AM
If you go to the left in the thumb nail viewer they have pics of the one step and generations lockdown (i think)
http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEDLD1_zps55c54d68.jpg.html?sort=6&o=5

If this is the generations version, I'm impressed... my only gripe and I'm hoping it is the camera angle, is he appears to have the beginnings of gorilla arms....

Omega Metro
15th May 2014, 09:16 AM
If you go to the left in the thumb nail viewer they have pics of the one step and generations lockdown (i think)
http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEDLD1_zps55c54d68.jpg.html?sort=6&o=5

If this is the generations version, I'm impressed... my only gripe and I'm hoping it is the camera angle, is he appears to have the beginnings of gorilla arms....

And those 'knobbly bits' on the door. :(

Zommael
15th May 2014, 12:17 PM
And those 'knobbly bits' on the door. :(

I think those are wing mirrors. Both this and the One-step figure look pretty good, I might actually get a Decepticon out of AOE after all.

Zommael
15th May 2014, 12:20 PM
There have been some video reviews, but now TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-hound-and-galvatron-in-hand-images-179977/) has pictures of Generations Hound and Galvatron.

Hound is awesome looking as expected from Toyfair. It looks like they've chosen a nice shade of dark green. Galvatron I'm struggling with. He looks like a good toy as shellformers go, with the vehicle mode parts stored on his back a bit more elegantly than FE or leader class Prime. There's also a good bit of sculpted detail and good looking articulation on the figure, and the vehicle mode looks good. But he's Hasbro grey, and I promised myself I would never buy a Transformer that used that awful plastic as a primary colour, so I'm on the fence.

Omega Metro
15th May 2014, 12:20 PM
I think those are wing mirrors. Both this and the One-step figure look pretty good, I might actually get a Decepticon out of AOE after all.

Pretty big wing mirrors though.;) The overall toy looks quite good though.

CBratron
15th May 2014, 01:30 PM
http://io9.com/first-look-at-more-new-dinobots-of-transformers-age-of-1576654201

Sludge and Snarl pics.

griffin
15th May 2014, 03:43 PM
If you go to the left in the thumb nail viewer they have pics of the one step and generations lockdown (i think)
http://s142.photobucket.com/user/bluecatcinema/media/The%20Transformers/Movieverse/AOEDLD1_zps55c54d68.jpg.html?sort=6&o=5

If this is the generations version, I'm impressed... my only gripe and I'm hoping it is the camera angle, is he appears to have the beginnings of gorilla arms....

The one with the "knobbly bits" (hinges) sticking out the sides is the Flip-&-Change toy (http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/1/4/0/8/TF-2014---Transformers-064_1392493522.jpg), which is those very big "one-step" figures (http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/aoe-flip-change-590/lockdown-7513/) (about leader/weaponizer size).

I still haven't been able to find any decent or official images of the "Generations" (mainline) DLX Lockdown.

Zommael
15th May 2014, 08:21 PM
The one with the "knobbly bits" (hinges) sticking out the sides is the Flip-&-Change toy (http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/1/4/0/8/TF-2014---Transformers-064_1392493522.jpg), which is those very big "one-step" figures (http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/aoe-flip-change-590/lockdown-7513/) (about leader/weaponizer size).

I still haven't been able to find any decent or official images of the "Generations" (mainline) DLX Lockdown.

Wow. That's amazingly good looking for a flip and change toy.

Mythirax
16th May 2014, 11:00 PM
Wow. That's amazingly good looking for a flip and change toy.

I thought the exact same thing. I was thinking, even for a deluxe I'll buy it, I can deal with fixing the arms a bit. To find out it's the flip and change really surprises me. ... However ... worries me what the deluxe will look like now :D

griffin
17th May 2014, 03:40 AM
It sounds like many of the Mainline TF4 toys are going to end up being limited exclusives in a couple stores (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-generations-figures-to-be-exclusives-in-uk-180001/)... which would leave just the gimmick toys being released in all stores.

Zommael
17th May 2014, 11:07 AM
It sounds like many of the Mainline TF4 toys are going to end up being limited exclusives in a couple stores (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-generations-figures-to-be-exclusives-in-uk-180001/)... which would leave just the gimmick toys being released in all stores.

The UK gets shafted worse than Australia does for TF products. Prices are typically as high or higher, distribution is poor and often doesn't go beyond the first wave (we never got more than Wave 1 of the entire Energon series over there, for example), and exclusives are rare and poorly promoted. I wouldn't read too much into Generations going exclusive over there. Our concerns should be how well the figures are performing over here, so that retailers will continue to order the Generations line in future, and how well the line is performing in the US, so Hasbro doesn't give up on it.

Sinnertwin
17th May 2014, 11:59 AM
So far so good, for toy releases here
Every retailer will have the odd "Exclusive to XXXXX" figure like at the mid year Toy Sale, but i dont see the mainline movie toys going the way of the UK retailers any time soon.

reillyd
17th May 2014, 08:26 PM
pics from the Singapore TRU, including the Lucky Draw Gold Prime, and Platinum Edition Grimlock/Evasion mode Prime (http://comeseetoys.blogspot.sg/2014/05/transformers-toy-madness-2200-toys-pic.html)

Omega Metro
17th May 2014, 09:02 PM
pics from the Singapore TRU, including the Lucky Draw Gold Prime, and Platinum Edition Grimlock/Evasion mode Prime (http://comeseetoys.blogspot.sg/2014/05/transformers-toy-madness-2200-toys-pic.html)

Wow! They really have pride in what they do in Singapore don't they. Even stacking shelves! It's an absolute credit to them. :) They don't just throw it on the shelf without any care like they do here.

ILikeSoundwave
17th May 2014, 09:13 PM
First look at Deluxe Lockdown: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/985543-tf4-aoe-lockdown-figure.html

MayzaPrime
17th May 2014, 09:19 PM
First look at Deluxe Lockdown: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/985543-tf4-aoe-lockdown-figure.html

That vehicle mode is awesome! He is a must have, for me anyway :D

Omega Metro
17th May 2014, 09:21 PM
Yep, that is awesome. Can't wait to get it.

griffin
17th May 2014, 09:26 PM
pics from the Singapore TRU, including the Lucky Draw Gold Prime, and Platinum Edition Grimlock/Evasion mode Prime (http://comeseetoys.blogspot.sg/2014/05/transformers-toy-madness-2200-toys-pic.html)

It's worth noting that they had the second wave of Deluxes out in Singapore as well (Strafe, Drift, Slash), so they should be out here soon too.
(Lockdown is noted as Wave 2.5 - a revision wave, so is likely to be a couple more weeks from global release)

Zommael
17th May 2014, 10:18 PM
I... think I prefer the flip and change?!

Mythirax
18th May 2014, 11:46 AM
I... think I prefer the flip and change?!

I kind of agree. I'll still get the deluxe, but dat face.

Zommael
18th May 2014, 12:31 PM
I kind of agree. I'll still get the deluxe, but dat face.

I had to go back and look at the faces after you posted this. It's weird that the flip and change figure apparently has a single eye whereas the deluxe has a humanoid face. I wonder if Hasbro were just hiding the face of the flip and change, or if it's a plot point in the film. Is Lockdown the guy whose face transforms into a gun?

ILikeSoundwave
18th May 2014, 12:42 PM
I had to go back and look at the faces after you posted this. It's weird that the flip and change figure apparently has a single eye whereas the deluxe has a humanoid face. I wonder if Hasbro were just hiding the face of the flip and change, or if it's a plot point in the film. Is Lockdown the guy whose face transforms into a gun?

Yes, and it's just a flip down visor.

BigTransformerTrev
18th May 2014, 03:35 PM
There have been some video reviews, but now TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-generations-voyager-hound-and-galvatron-in-hand-images-179977/) has pictures of Generations Hound and Galvatron.


Is it me or does Hound look more like Bulkhead than the army jeep scout we all know and love? :confused:

griffin
18th May 2014, 03:40 PM
Since just about every Lockdown toy has a different face (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=18539), maybe Lockdown was a design that was changed late to incorporate the gun-face (the hand weapon on the Deluxe toy looks like it, which would be easy to mould up at the last minute than re-design the whole toy to include it as part of the robot).

We've seen how Bay likes to add in last minute visuals through a brainwave of imagination, with no time for Hasbro to change their toys.... like Optimus' swords in the first movie. It was too late to include them in the toy, but Hasbro rushed out a Robot Heroes figurine with the swords, and as soon as they could, they re-released the Leader Class toy with a sword.

Mythirax
18th May 2014, 03:57 PM
Is it me or does Hound look more like Bulkhead than the army jeep scout we all know and love? :confused:

I thought that myself, but I can't complain. At least we got some Hound love :D

griffin
18th May 2014, 08:27 PM
Looks like there is a colour variant of the Leader Optimus, with the red being dark or light (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-leader-optimus-prime-variant-found-180019/).

And the re-release classics Legends apparently has black or red Autobot symbols painted on it (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/classics-legion-bumblebee-variant-sighted-180020/).

Sinnertwin
18th May 2014, 09:25 PM
And the re-release classics Legends apparently has black or red Autobot symbols painted on it (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/classics-legion-bumblebee-variant-sighted-180020/).

The red Autobot symbol Bumblebee & Optimus Prime with Autobot symbol on his left shoulder are first batch, while the black Autobot symbol Bumblebee & no Autobot symbol Optimus Prime are the second lot

Both versions are currently available here now :)

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=414330&postcount=95

griffin
21st May 2014, 06:01 AM
Dinobot Slash from the second wave of Deluxes (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-deluxe-slash-in-hand-images-180046/), which were released at the Singapore TRU event the other day.

Omega Metro
21st May 2014, 06:07 AM
Dinobot Slash from the second wave of Deluxes (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-generations-deluxe-slash-in-hand-images-180046/), which were released at the Singapore TRU event the other day.

Yep, definitely the worst looking of the Dinobots.:(

Mythirax
21st May 2014, 12:24 PM
I actually don't mind Slash. Wasn't a fan of the Knee Frills at the start, but after seeing them in those images. Looks like they don't get in the way as much as I though.

griffin
25th May 2014, 11:54 PM
The Evolutions Strafe pack has appeared in America (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-toys-r-us-exclusive-evolutions-strafe-set-released-in-us-180101/), but no Slug like in Singapore, so these appear to be single-packed assortment cases.

The unusual thing about it is that the bubble insert (card) has character art of Gen1 Strafe (Technobot) instead of Gen1 Swoop (since that is who the Minicon is coloured to represent).

Mythirax
26th May 2014, 12:58 PM
The Evolutions Strafe pack has appeared in America (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-toys-r-us-exclusive-evolutions-strafe-set-released-in-us-180101/), but no Slug like in Singapore, so these appear to be single-packed assortment cases.

The unusual thing about it is that the bubble insert (card) has character art of Gen1 Strafe (Technobot) instead of Gen1 Swoop (since that is who the Minicon is coloured to represent).

I always thought it was strange he was called Strafe, and seeming as the two heads. It more represented the Technobot to me. Either way it's all odd.

griffin
26th May 2014, 09:59 PM
Wave 2 of the Construct-Bots Riders (Hound & Crosshairs) have been found in America (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/986697-construct-bots-hound-crosshairs.html).

griffin
31st May 2014, 12:54 AM
Evolutions Grimlock (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-grimlock-evolution-two-pack-released-in-the-us-180141/) and Slug (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-evolution-of-slug-purchased-at-us-retail-180135/) packs have now been found in America.
(Just note that we might not see ours until July.)

Bumblebee and Optimus sets appear to be like "wave 2", so might be another month away.

griffin
31st May 2014, 07:03 PM
Some group shots and comparisons of the first wave, including all the gimmick toys that most of us adults wont be buying... so will probably never see next to the mainline figures like this.

Optimus Prime
At the back from the left - Voyager, Leader, First Edition, 16 inch Titan, 12 inch Titan.
At the front from the left - One-step, Dino-sparker, Construct-Bots Rider, Flip&Change, Construct-Bots Warrior.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b862.jpg

Grimlock
Back from left - Voyager, Leader, 16 inch Titan.
Front from left - One-step, Construct-Bots, Flip&Change. Dino-Sparker at the front.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b863.jpg

Dinobots
Back from the left - DLX Scorn, DLX Slug, Power-Battler Strafe, Construct Bots Strafe, Construct-Bots Slug.
Front from the left - Dino Sparker Strafe, Dino Sparker Slug, Construct Bots Gnaw, Construct Bots Roughneck, Construct Bots Hangnail.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b864.jpg

Bumblebee
Back - Deluxe, 12 inch Titan.
Front - Power Battler, Construct Bots Rider, Dino Sparker.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b865.jpg

Drift
Back - Construct Bots Warrior, 12 inch Titan
Front - One-Step, Construct Bots Rider, Dino Sparker
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b866.jpg

Crosshairs
Power Battler, Deluxe.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b867.jpg

Lockdown
Construct Bots Warrior (back), Construct Bots Rider (front).
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b868.jpg

Group shot of Wave 1 (with a couple non-Movie toys I got at the same time at the front and back corner).
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b856.jpg

And what Wave 1 looks like in packaging.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b853.jpg

In a day or two I should have them all in alt-mode for another group shot to share.

griffin
31st May 2014, 07:22 PM
I was surprised that the Construct-Bots were completely new designs to previous Construct-Bots designs, in that the larger ones have moving parts and some enclosed pieces.

The Dino Sparkers are a little disappointing that the sparks are fully enclosed (which is why they are so big and bulky), but understandable if there are laws in place to prevent sparks from being ejected. The effect of having them enclosed is that the spark effect is mostly hidden, especially with Grimlock who has darker plastic and a lot of gold paint.
They are best used in the dark, but then that makes it more challenging to chase after them to keep playing with them.

The one-step changers and Flip&Change figures have very short-lived play. The Flip&Change Grimlock has a fancy transformation gimmick that isn't obvious on the packaging, which will make it difficult for kids to figure out how to do it (you grab each tail half and hold each as far apart as possible, and spin the body round and round until the gears bring the robot parts together into dino mode). Someone went to a lot of trouble to make that unique transformation work, but people won't buy it for that transformation unless it is on a TV commercial and the kid or parent remembers which of the 6 different Grimlock robot toys is the right one.

The Power Battlers aren't too bad on average. The transformations dont seem to be intentionally simpler, but the gimmicks seem to require simpler transformations. As such, some are spoiled by the gimmick, but some are decent, playable figures. The Power Battler Crosshairs looks better in robot mode than the Deluxe Crosshairs (to me)... but the big fist is the spoiling element.

Now to hunt down cheap Kreo Movie sets...

griffin
1st June 2014, 10:42 AM
The Flip&Change (the very big single step gimmick toys - same size as Mega One-Step) Lockdown and Target exclusive Silver Knight Optimus have been found in America (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/987190-crash-change-sliver-knight-optimus-flip-change-lockdown-released.html).

Silver Knight Optimus is a grey version of the wave 1 Optimus toy, as Target in America seem to have all the Silver Knight redecos.

I had thought that Lockdown was in wave 3, after Bumblebee in wave 2... but I'll have to go and find where I got that from.

griffin
1st June 2014, 10:56 AM
The Target exclusive Titan 12 inch Silver Knight Optimus has been found at a US Target as well (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/age-of-extinction-target-exclusive-12-inch-silver-knight-optimus-prime-released-180163/) for US$10.

griffin
1st June 2014, 08:49 PM
Vehicle/alt modes...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b891.jpg

Optimus Prime.
First Edition, Leader, Flip&Change, One-step (front), Voyager (back), Construct-Bots Rider, Construct-Bots Warrior, Dino sparker.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b892.jpg

Grimlock.
Flip&Change, Leader, Voyager, Construct-Bots, One-step, Dino Sparker.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b893.jpg

Other cars (Hound, Bumblebee, Crosshairs, Lockdown, Drift).
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b894.jpg


Dinobots (Slug, Strafe, Scorn, Grimlock, Hangnail, Gnaw, Roughneck)
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/blog/b895.jpg