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kurdt_the_goat
19th June 2014, 07:25 PM
Like Magnus (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=18804), courtesy of Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%80%90Amazon-co-jp-%E4%BA%A4%E6%8F%9B%E7%94%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%8 2%A4%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%8 2%AFVer/dp/B00IZ206PE/ref=pd_sim_t_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZBQZ3RRQXMTE7AGPEM9)! Click for larger

http://i.imgur.com/dKGLoexl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/dKGLoex.jpg)
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Omega Metro
19th June 2014, 07:35 PM
Sorry but I think BB's body looks atrocious. Really hope those photos are preproduction examples. Doesn't look 'clean'.:confused:

yoshi594
19th June 2014, 07:56 PM
why can't the human figures have details on their faces? even DR Wu's partners set have details on their faces.

Anyway, still a good looking MP just a little over the pricey side but heh, better than paying after market prices for it later.

Bidoofdude
19th June 2014, 09:10 PM
He looks great, except for the Autobot symbol on the hood. It doesn't work well in bot mode at all.

Gofigure
19th June 2014, 09:20 PM
Looks good. Happy to drop the bucks on this

Trent
19th June 2014, 09:28 PM
Good to see he's Grid ready, coming with his Tron disc and all :p

BigTransformerTrev
19th June 2014, 09:29 PM
Chest is a bit bulbous, legs a tad spindly and don't like the face too much. Don't get me wrong, I like him on the whole but not as good as I was expecting

Sinnertwin
19th June 2014, 09:39 PM
He looks great, except for the Autobot symbol on the hood. It doesn't work well in bot mode at all.

Yeah, i would've preferred a set of optional stick on symbols rather than the tampo'd one.
Even though it's a good idea for the chest, the front end of the WW doesnt lend itself to be able to have the rotating symbol.

CBratron
19th June 2014, 09:46 PM
I don't think it's the tampograph that's the problem. It's the raised surface forming the Autobot badge. It would've been just fine with the tampograph on a flat surface.

AJ_Prime
19th June 2014, 11:40 PM
Hmmmm.. Not quite sure. He looks alright, but the backpack doesn't hide the kibble as well as I'd hoped... Having said that, I'll probably still get him!

drifand
20th June 2014, 07:21 AM
wrong yellow or how the pic is taken? Looks fine but would preferred lime yellow bee.

Omega Metro
20th June 2014, 08:23 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm still getting it. Just think its a poor effort.

Initial_G
20th June 2014, 10:01 AM
Hoping there will be a v2 one later, or a 3rd party that's more G1 cartoon accurate,, don't really like the look of the vehicle mode on this one ... and that autobot symbol on the chest >_>

millhouse
20th June 2014, 01:09 PM
Hoping there will be a v2 one later, or a 3rd party that's more G1 cartoon accurate,, don't really like the look of the vehicle mode on this one ... and that autobot symbol on the chest >_>

Perhaps go for Toyworld's Bii then, if you're after a Penny Racer style design. I've got one, and I'll likely be keeping it in car mode for display with MP figures.

ons
20th June 2014, 04:22 PM
Good to see he's Grid ready, coming with his Tron disc and all :p

lol

Not sure how I feel about this MP. Definitely getting him regardless.

Initial_G
21st June 2014, 12:31 AM
Perhaps go for Toyworld's Bii then, if you're after a Penny Racer style design. I've got one, and I'll likely be keeping it in car mode for display with MP figures.

Oh! I missed this one!:eek:

Looks good! thanks for that tip :)

Hursticon
22nd June 2014, 04:25 PM
Am I missing something here? - What's wrong with his colour & chest's faction symbol? :confused:

I think this is the single best Bumblebee release since the G1 Original & Pretender! :cool:

drifand
22nd June 2014, 06:07 PM
I don't know, like said this looks like the Transformers movie colours than the cartoon version.

GoktimusPrime
22nd June 2014, 06:49 PM
I think it's a reasonably decent effort considering what they're trying to achieve (i.e. realistic vehicle w/ cartoon-like robot mode which cheats physics/reality :rolleyes:). But to me... at pre-order discount price (~$50-60), this toy works out to be approx. the same price as a Voyager Class TF, and while I still think it's not quite worth that price, I do feel that it still offers superior value for money than your average Voyager these days.

Am I missing something here? - What's wrong with his colour & chest's faction symbol? :confused:
Agreed. Especially considering that the chest faction symbol is flippable, which is really cool. Allows for a realistic vehicle mode (that's a superior robot in disguise since it's not driving around with a huge flaming Autobot sigil on its roof!), but still has a chest symbol in robot mode! ;)

I think this is the single best Bumblebee release since the G1 Original & Pretender! :cool:
I think the Classics Bumblebee mould has been the best so far. At $25-30 it's about half the price of a pre-ordered MP Bumble, but of course with only Deluxe level of engineering (which is about the same as a Voyager these days :p :rolleyes:). Time will tell if MP Bumble offers double the level of awesome as Deluxe Classicsverse Bumblebee. ;)

Hursticon
22nd June 2014, 07:01 PM
I think it's a reasonably decent effort considering what they're trying to achieve (i.e. realistic vehicle w/ cartoon-like robot mode which cheats physics/reality :rolleyes:). But to me... at pre-order discount price (~$50-60), this toy works out to be approx. the same price as a Voyager Class TF, and while I still think it's not quite worth that price, I do feel that it still offers superior value for money than your average Voyager these days.

Don't forget dude, that Japanese price is also including a fully poseable & transformable Spike in an Exo-suit - I think that makes up the difference value-wise, compared to the other MP Car bots, perfectly. :cool:


I think the Classics Bumblebee mould has been the best so far. At $25-30 it's about half the price of a pre-ordered MP Bumble, but of course with only Deluxe level of engineering (which is about the same as a Voyager these days :p :rolleyes:). Time will tell if MP Bumble offers double the level of awesome as Deluxe Classicsverse Bumblebee. ;)

I love the '06 Classics Bumblebee too but for me he's more of a Pseudo-G1 Bee; I know what HasTak's intentions were at the time & the limitations imposed on the overall design as a result of Volkswagon's (Western) "NO War Bots" policy of the time - But he still feels like a far enough departure from what Bumblebee looked like in the Comics & Cartoon for me not to include him in my previous 2 member list. ;):)

Tetsuwan Convoy
22nd June 2014, 07:13 PM
Am I missing something here? - What's wrong with his colour & chest's faction symbol? :confused:

Could it bee the paint on the autobot symbol perhaps looks a little rough?

That's the only thing I can see.

I love this guy! NO way in hell I am going to miss out on this little fella!

Hursticon
22nd June 2014, 07:23 PM
Could it bee the paint on the autobot symbol perhaps looks a little rough?

I dunno man, it's got me baffled as to what people could find wrong with this little bloke :confused:; "little" being the operative term as he is only going to come up to the other Car bots' waists/shoulders, height-wise :eek:, so that may be why certain details look less "clean" because they're actually harder to apply on smaller surfaces?... :o

All I know is that this little bugger & his tiny man-in-a-suit pal can't arrive at my door soon enough! :D

GoktimusPrime
22nd June 2014, 07:42 PM
Don't forget dude, that Japanese price is also including a fully poseable & transformable Spike in an Exo-suit - I think that makes up the difference value-wise, compared to the other MP Car bots, perfectly. :cool:
True. Whether or not this adequately justifies the price point is something I'll decide upon after I get the toy and judge for myself IRL. ;)

I love the '06 Classics Bumblebee too but for me he's more of a Pseudo-G1 Bee; I know what HasTak's intentions were at the time & the limitations imposed on the overall design as a result of Volkswagon's (Western) "NO War Bots" policy of the time - But he still feels like a far enough departure from what Bumblebee looked like in the Comics & Cartoon for me not to include him in my previous 2 member list. ;):)
Don't forget that Bumblebee hasn't always been a VW Beetle -- his G2 Gobot toy transforms into a concept race car (I personally don't know what the make/model is). I think that Classicsverse Bumblebee has done a pretty good job considering that they were unable to acquire the VW licence by making him a generic looking compact, so it still evokes the spirit of a Beetle. ;) Alternity Bumblebee did the same thing by using the Suzuki Swift, which I also thought was cool (even if that toy was rather expensive at full RRP).

Also, this isn't the first time that TakaraTOMY has used the VW Beetle, remember that Disney Label TF Donald Duck transforms into a Punch Buggy too. Although it could be argued that Disney Label isn't associated w/ war. But also keep in mind that while TakaraTOMY may have acquired the VW Beetle licence, it doesn't necessarily apply for Hasbro (as appears to be the case with Lamborghini; re: Hasbro's apparent inability to release MP Lambos, and I'm assuming that AoE Lockdown will be an approximated Aventador) :o

Sinnertwin
22nd June 2014, 07:53 PM
Hasbro are releasing Sideswipe, Gok, see Fatbot's first post in the new Generations figures thread

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=421806&postcount=1

GoktimusPrime
22nd June 2014, 10:35 PM
Ooh, sweet! There may be hope for a Hasbro MP Red Alert then! :D

Bidoofdude
23rd June 2014, 09:37 PM
What's the cheapest place for this guy that isn't sold out? I missed AE. :( Should I for Robot Kingdom, or maybe buy one in Japan next year when I'm there?

drifand
23rd June 2014, 10:03 PM
What's the cheapest place for this guy that isn't sold out? I missed AE. :( Should I for Robot Kingdom, or maybe buy one in Japan next year when I'm there?

you have to wait for release date and grab one from hlj or Nippon yasan.
all sold atm.

In honesty the trend is to buy when is out on pre-order. The old ways are almost non existent.

GoktimusPrime
23rd June 2014, 11:12 PM
What's the cheapest place for this guy that isn't sold out? I missed AE. :( Should I for Robot Kingdom, or maybe buy one in Japan next year when I'm there?
Are you going to be meeting up with anyone when you're going to Japan? If so, maybe ask them to preorder that toy (or toys) from Amazon Japan. They ship free within Japan, so you only have to pay for the cost of the pre-ordered toy. And with a direct pick-up, you won't need to pay for international shipping. :) Amazon JP still has MP Bumble for pre-order for 4889JPY (approx. AU$51), and it comes w/ the bonus face mask. :o

Bidoofdude
24th June 2014, 05:52 PM
Are you going to be meeting up with anyone when you're going to Japan? If so, maybe ask them to preorder that toy (or toys) from Amazon Japan. They ship free within Japan, so you only have to pay for the cost of the pre-ordered toy. And with a direct pick-up, you won't need to pay for international shipping. :) Amazon JP still has MP Bumble for pre-order for 4889JPY (approx. AU$51), and it comes w/ the bonus face mask. :o

No, I'm going to be with a host student. I presume they have MPs at retail? Do they sell out fast?

Ode to a Grasshopper
24th June 2014, 07:43 PM
No, I'm going to be with a host student. I presume they have MPs at retail? Do they sell out fast?Depends on the MP, and the retail outlet. Where I am, only Yamada Denki stocks MPs aside from the specialty stores in the city. If you're in a major city you might have some hobby shops around, if not then you'll have to try mass retail or take a trip to Tokyo/Osaka/one of the other major cities.

Either way, MP Soundwave was gone the morning he was released. Soundblaster lasted a bit longer but still vanished after a month-odd. The odd MP Smokescreen was still floating around for weeks after it was released.

I'd imagine Bumble would go pretty quickly.

drifand
26th June 2014, 10:51 AM
As again, the trend is you need to obtain one prior to release or you miss out.
Those days where we can see someone review and then make a decision are gone imo.

Bidoofdude
26th June 2014, 10:05 PM
Depends on the MP, and the retail outlet. Where I am, only Yamada Denki stocks MPs aside from the specialty stores in the city. If you're in a major city you might have some hobby shops around, if not then you'll have to try mass retail or take a trip to Tokyo/Osaka/one of the other major cities.

Either way, MP Soundwave was gone the morning he was released. Soundblaster lasted a bit longer but still vanished after a month-odd. The odd MP Smokescreen was still floating around for weeks after it was released.

I'd imagine Bumble would go pretty quickly.

I'll be going to Tokyo and Osaka as part of the trip. I'll try my luck. Thinking of adding to my POL.

Tober
27th October 2014, 10:24 AM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/LAuAyws_1414335821_zps51b97023.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/LAuAyws_1414335821_zps51b97023.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/RmX2ctf_1414335821_zps9534d0d1.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/RmX2ctf_1414335821_zps9534d0d1.jpg.html)

Lint
27th October 2014, 10:31 AM
Although horrendously ugly in alt mode, Spike in the Exosuit is a far more interesting figure to me right now

drifand
27th October 2014, 12:54 PM
Can't find any more online Japanese stores having this available for order.

griffin
27th October 2014, 01:26 PM
So, the Toy-accurate face (no mouth) is the exclusive item to Amazon Japan.
(that face looks odd now, but is definitely something to want if you want a homage to the toy instead of the cartoon character)

At least the Hasbro HK releases of the JP Masterpiece toys include the Amazon Japan items... plus a coin.
(so best to look for a HK version from a HK site if you want all three faces - even though the regular two is just a happy or sad face)

GoktimusPrime
27th October 2014, 01:41 PM
The Japanese text is referring to the toy-accurate face as a "battle mask," which I think is pretty neat and also referencing Dreamwave canon where Bumblebee did indeed have a toy-accurate battle mask (as did "Goldfire" Bumblebee in IDW, although that wasn't directly based off the G1 toy). ;)

drifand
27th October 2014, 03:35 PM
$5 says they will release a lemon yellow one to sucker all of us?

Defcon
27th October 2014, 04:23 PM
I don't know wouldn't a more lemony yellow be more cartoon accurate :p
The warm yellow that they have doesn't really scream Bumblebee yellow to me, but that might be just the photography. We wont really know until we have it in hand, or someone takes some photos with natural light.

I think this release is the least appealing so far. But he just had to be done, because he is an important character to Optimus Prime. Like Starscream is to Megatron, but obviously not the same :)

Sinnertwin
27th October 2014, 04:38 PM
$5 says they will release a lemon yellow one to sucker all of us?

Hasbro Asia Exclusive MP 21BS for $9000.

griffin
27th October 2014, 04:49 PM
I don't know why... maybe the proportions are slightly out... but the car mode to me just doesn't look like the curved "Herbie (http://www.herbiemania.com/53skyway2006.jpg)" VW beetle. Looking for some images of the real beetle car (here (http://www.netcarshow.com/volkswagen/2003-beetle_last_edition/), here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/1949_VW_Beetle.jpg), here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/VolkswagenBeetle-001.jpg)), the car seemed to be more rounded, like a rainbow from the windshield to the back bumper, but the MP Bumblebee has a flatter top, so it makes it look longer.
Maybe it's just an optical illusion on the full-scale car.

rodent
27th October 2014, 09:37 PM
I don't know why... maybe the proportions are slightly out... but the car mode to me just doesn't look like the curved "Herbie (http://www.herbiemania.com/53skyway2006.jpg)" VW beetle. Looking for some images of the real beetle car (here (http://www.netcarshow.com/volkswagen/2003-beetle_last_edition/), here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/1949_VW_Beetle.jpg), here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/VolkswagenBeetle-001.jpg)), the car seemed to be more rounded, like a rainbow from the windshield to the back bumper, but the MP Bumblebee has a flatter top, so it makes it look longer.
Maybe it's just an optical illusion on the full-scale car.

I think you're right on there, looks like they've taken some liberties with proportions (the MP-12 series alt-modes weren't the most accurate either). But this is one guy I'm happy to leave in bot mode.

I too am more interested in Spike in his exo-suit.

Bidoofdude
27th October 2014, 09:56 PM
I think you're right on there, looks like they've taken some liberties with proportions (the MP-12 series alt-modes weren't the most accurate either). But this is one guy I'm happy to leave in bot mode.

I too am more interested in Spike in his exo-suit.

I agree. The robot mode is just too amazing to keep in bug mode. So much win. :cool:

drifand
28th October 2014, 12:05 AM
Any reason why the wrong yellow is used?

VERT
28th October 2014, 12:43 AM
Looks like the right yellow to me. Hate all the crappy lite yellows they keep using. Even on his reissue.

drifand
28th October 2014, 02:05 AM
Looks like the right yellow to me. Hate all the crappy lite yellows they keep using. Even on his reissue.

You following the movie or the original G1?

VERT
28th October 2014, 07:53 AM
original Toy :D I just dont like the other yellow....its evil it is ;)

drifand
28th October 2014, 10:27 AM
I did a search, colour is yes and no. I guess I was used to lemon yellow.
Not a biggie.

kovert
28th October 2014, 11:14 AM
To me, the eyes look kind of small compared to the G1 cartoon :confused:

GoktimusPrime
28th October 2014, 11:50 AM
None of the MPs are dead-on likenesses with their G1 cartoon counterparts. Reasons fort his include:

* Reality. Cartoon models cheat reality all the time, which toy designers/engineers simply cannot do IRL. Bumblebee has an additional challenge of having a robot mode based on the Penny Racer proportioned Beetle, but the MP is attempting to achieve a more realistically proportioned Beetle.
* Vehicle accuracy vs show likeness. e.g. MP20 Wheeljack looks more toy-accurate in vehicle mode with all the Alitalia colours, decos etc. The cartoon model lacked any of this and has far simpler colours. So the toy is caught between trying to achieve vehicle accuracy in car mode and show-likeness in robot mode.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Wheeljack/mp_wheeljack12_zpsbaa66263.jpg
* The G1 cartoon was far from being consistent! Shades and shapes varied wildly between different animators. It looks pretty darn close to me. :o
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/bumbleheads_zps37d82956.jpg

kaiden
28th October 2014, 12:07 PM
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griffin
28th October 2014, 03:14 PM
To me, the eyes look kind of small compared to the G1 cartoon :confused:

I remember the episode City of Steel, where Optimus has been rebuilt (minus an arm), and he bends down to hug Bumblebee... that image above of him standing next to MP-10 reminds me of that episode, and think it will be a good cartoon (and original toy) scale.
I think it probably looks small for people who are more familiar with the modern Bumblebees, which are leadership/secondary characters who are "big" in size, stature and importance in the show/movie/toyline.

Packed in with a similar sized exosuit makes it equal up to the value of the other Autobot cars, and I'm really excited to get these.

Sinnertwin
28th October 2014, 03:28 PM
City of Steel :D i thought i'd forgotten about that :p but yes, Bumblebee was tiny.

kaiden
28th October 2014, 03:31 PM
Packed in with a similar sized exosuit makes it equal up to the value of the other Autobot cars, and I'm really excited to get these.

The transforming exosuit is worth it alone for collectability

griffin
28th October 2014, 03:56 PM
Totally. :D

I was actually going to buy the licensed Japanese one (http://www.tomopop.com/cm-s-shows-off-transformers-exosuit-with-spike-and-daniel-32663.phtml) before this was announced.

nexusnixx
28th October 2014, 04:05 PM
Totally. :D

I was actually going to buy the licensed Japanese one (http://www.tomopop.com/cm-s-shows-off-transformers-exosuit-with-spike-and-daniel-32663.phtml) before this was announced.

Hmmm this one looks nice too. How much is it supposed to retail for?

kaiden
28th October 2014, 04:11 PM
Hmmm this one looks nice too. How much is it supposed to retail for?

they went bankrupt earlier this year.

griffin
28th October 2014, 04:32 PM
Hmmm... looks like it was never released (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Exosuit#Brave-Goukin). It didn't make it before they went bankrupt. So it is good that MP Bumblebee comes with one.

Their items were very expensive, so this would have been the only one I would have bought.

(I didn't realise that they went bankrupt, because recent figures like Alpha Trion look very similar to CM's Headmaster humans in terms of sculpting, to me at least.)

xlojnr
28th October 2014, 04:43 PM
City of Steel :D i thought i'd forgotten about that :p but yes, Bumblebee was tiny.

or the episode where they were brainwashed while in the recharging chambers - one shot left of the fix, so bumblebee had to go in against a rampaging optimus.

kaiden
28th October 2014, 04:44 PM
in an article, it basically said their items were too expensive and didn't sell well in Japan and they couldn't get rid of their old stock and were left with massive debts.

Sinnertwin
28th October 2014, 04:46 PM
or the episode where they were brainwashed while in the recharging chambers - one shot left of the fix, so bumblebee had to go in against a rampaging optimus.

:D
At least i can watch Attack of the Autobots. & not end up curling up on the floor :p

Megatran
12th November 2014, 10:28 PM
Bumping this thread in light of the impending release.

nsm034
15th November 2014, 12:36 AM
hobbylink just had pre order available ( around $50 aud ) again so i jumped on it, just lettin the peeps know

drifand
15th November 2014, 12:53 AM
Does the normal release comes with Eco suit spike?

nsm034
15th November 2014, 12:58 AM
i think it might not have the coin and battle mask but has spike, is that correct anyone else?

drifand
15th November 2014, 01:00 AM
i think it might not have the coin and battle mask but has spike, is that correct anyone else?

That is what I thought , just confirming this.

Ploughmans Lunch
15th November 2014, 01:38 AM
Yeah spike is part of regular release

nexusnixx
15th November 2014, 02:02 AM
Yes the battle mask is Amazon exclusive. Spike is part of mp bb release.

kurdt_the_goat
18th November 2014, 03:43 PM
Benscollectables on YouTube has posted a video review of a Bumblebee test shot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXs75z9WTws) he managed to acquire. Looks really great!

kaiden
18th November 2014, 10:27 PM
Benscollectables on YouTube has posted a video review of a Bumblebee test shot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXs75z9WTws) he managed to acquire. Looks really great!

its kinda disappointing. paying the same price as the other autobot cars but getting less. he looks so tiny and has no articulated hands/wrist swivel D:

i know the exosuit is supposed to make up for it, but...:(

drifand
18th November 2014, 10:39 PM
its kinda disappointing. paying the same price as the other autobot cars but getting less. he looks so tiny and has no articulated hands/wrist swivel D:

i know the exosuit is supposed to make up for it, but...:(

If you had pre ordered early enough, they were below 5,000 yen

Smint
19th November 2014, 12:22 AM
Based on that review this will be the first MP that im disappointed with. I dont think its worthy of the masterpiece name and not worth the $55 i spent.

There's nothing particularly bad about him he's just really ordinary. Fixed hands, weird face, standard accessories, average transformation and articulation. And I couldn't care less for Daniel's exo suit.

kaiden
19th November 2014, 01:31 AM
If you had pre ordered early enough, they were below 5,000 yen

yeah but i wanted the coin and the amazon battle mask

drifand
19th November 2014, 02:33 AM
its kinda disappointing. paying the same price as the other autobot cars but getting less. he looks so tiny and has no articulated hands/wrist swivel D:

i know the exosuit is supposed to make up for it, but...:(


yeah but i wanted the coin and the amazon battle mask

Can't really complain then.

kaiden
19th November 2014, 03:24 AM
Can't really complain then.

sure i can - thought i did earlier.

Defcon
19th November 2014, 08:25 AM
its kinda disappointing. paying the same price as the other autobot cars but getting less. he looks so tiny and has no articulated hands/wrist swivel D:

i know the exosuit is supposed to make up for it, but...:(

It does seem disappointing, considering the size which is unavoidable. Also the exo-suit won't be appealing to everyone. So a lot of people are going to be divided on this release, over the perceived value. Maybe they just needed a few more accessories, like the jetpack , Bumblebee used to fly to Dinobot Island, or the water skis for vehicle mode. Not really fussed on the water skis, but the jetpack that would be cool :)

Paulbot
19th November 2014, 10:09 AM
Cliffjumper had the waterskis, and a big ass gun, and they would be nice accessories in the MP line when they figure out how what to do about his superdeformed car mode.

What they could have sold with Bumblebee would be the energon carrying space-cart they used in the first Spacebridge ep. Then with the next 10 or so MP releases they could each include a bit of the Spacebridge circle. Combine and build! ;)

Oh, if anyone ordered the Bumblebee with battle mask, and doesn't want the battle mask, let me know.

laproblematique
19th November 2014, 10:31 AM
Based on that review this will be the first MP that im disappointed with. I dont think its worthy of the masterpiece name and not worth the $55 i spent.

There's nothing particularly bad about him he's just really ordinary. Fixed hands, weird face, standard accessories, average transformation and articulation. And I couldn't care less for Daniel's exo suit.

I'll take him off your hands if you're not satisfied. :)

What are the odds he'll be the same box size as the rest of the autobot cars?

Is there any resource that lets you compare box sizes? I'm trying to get some display cases to put my MISB stuff in but the difference in sizes of the few MP's I have (MP-05, MP17-20, Hasbro Acid Storm, Hasbro Grimlock and YOTH Prime) is really annoying me.

Any thoughts on how big the Star Sabre and Magnus boxes will be? MP-04 size maybe?

griffin
19th November 2014, 10:42 AM
People should be commenting more on the news and their perceived value of the items, rather than worrying about what other people think or value the item, or how much they paid.

griffin
19th November 2014, 10:47 AM
I'll take him off your hands if you're not satisfied. :)

What are the odds he'll be the same box size as the rest of the autobot cars?


It should be the same size box. And the cost is based on it basically being a 2-pack like Rumble/Ravage, Frenzy/Buzzsaw.
It won't be a 3/4 empty box like the Hasbro MP Prowl.

Sinnertwin
19th November 2014, 10:50 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXs75z9WTws

Test shot review

drifand
19th November 2014, 10:50 AM
Actually you guys should appreciate that vw has agreed to allow this to happen.
I thought they weren't willing to support it and now that it has, this should be highly appreciated.

I am hoping the same with Porsche for jazz.

Thurmus
19th November 2014, 11:29 AM
I was surprised when I saw the logo and authorised product on the test sample box.

Someone asked me a couple of days before if it was a genuine VW beetle model. I also thought they wouldn't let their name be used on Bumblebee any more due to the whole Germany war thing.

kaiden
19th November 2014, 12:20 PM
I was surprised when I saw the logo and authorised product on the test sample box.

Someone asked me a couple of days before if it was a genuine VW beetle model. I also thought they wouldn't let their name be used on Bumblebee any more due to the whole Germany war thing.

from past interviews - they've been getting the license through their Tomy international side of the business.

kurdt_the_goat
19th November 2014, 12:26 PM
from past interviews - they've been getting the license through their Tomy international side of the business.

I noticed the other day in this photo that he's actually stamped (side of his waist under the arm) Tomy instead of TakaraTomy too. I'm not sure if that's a new thing mind you!

http://i.imgur.com/fwbTiBy.jpg

kaiden
19th November 2014, 12:38 PM
I noticed the other day in this photo that he's actually stamped (side of his waist under the arm) Tomy instead of TakaraTomy too. I'm not sure if that's a new thing mind you!

http://i.imgur.com/fwbTiBy.jpg

If you check the underside of Wheeljack you'll see ŠTOMY on the back of his left leg.

Edit: took a photo

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u528/L45TN7/IMAG0097_zpslkxbjuna.jpg

Hasui: "About the new Masterpiece, I believe many of you want to hear about MP20. We can't show it yet, but MP20 will finally be that character, that car model which the license was very difficult to obtain". (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-mp-20-clarification-177751/)

So yeah that's why we got Wheeljack and Bumblebee and so... Jazz should be soon?

griffin
19th November 2014, 02:37 PM
I noticed the other day in this photo that he's actually stamped (side of his waist under the arm) Tomy instead of TakaraTomy too. I'm not sure if that's a new thing mind you!



It's been like that for a while, even on Hasbro toys - it says Tomy with Hasbro instead of TakaraTomy.

It could just be part of the transition to full absorption of Takara by Tomy, just like Hasbro did with some of its acquisitions (Kenner no longer exists as a branch of Hasbro, after the first few years they bought it - Beast Wars toys started off being labelled as Kenner and Hasbro, but then later were just Hasbro).

And as a toy company, Tomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomy) is apparently now one of the four biggest toy companies in the world, behind Mattel, Lego, and Hasbro... so they probably want their Brand name being just as uniform and recognised, on any of their products that no longer need their original owner's name on it.
(last I read... this year Tomy was actually now third, pushing Hasbro to fourth spot... but I don't have the article on hand to verify that, so don't quote me on it)

nexusnixx
19th November 2014, 03:01 PM
People should be commenting more on the news and their perceived value of the items, rather than worrying about what other people think or value the item, or how much they paid.

it is child play with it comes to toy collecting - am glad BB made it to the masterpiece series... it is about being happy with buying and collecting and playing with them....

when we get too caught up how much it cost at this retailer to the other and how much cheaper one can get it or how one can get it from Japan directly and others from other sources.... lets move on and enjoy the releases from Tomy

Tober
20th November 2014, 04:26 AM
Oh, if anyone ordered the Bumblebee with battle mask, and doesn't want the battle mask, let me know.

I may have a spare.

Bidoofdude
20th November 2014, 10:46 PM
Really want a Bumblebee, but I'm struggling to find the money, with Combiner Wars next year. I might make an exception with my priorities.

GoktimusPrime
21st November 2014, 12:21 AM
its kinda disappointing. paying the same price as the other autobot cars but getting less. he looks so tiny and has no articulated hands/wrist swivel D:

i know the exosuit is supposed to make up for it, but...:(
I agree. I personally don't think any of the MP cars have been worth paying full retail for, but as others like drifand have mentioned, pre-ordering does make them cheaper and lessens the pain. ;) It certainly does make them cheaper than the local $100 price tag for MP cars, and arguably at approximately $50, you're paying about the same as a full priced Voyager Class Transformer. As limited as MP Bumblebee may appear to be, I'd wager that it's likely to still deliver more bang for our buck than say Age of Extinction Voyager Class Galvatron. ;)


Someone asked me a couple of days before if it was a genuine VW beetle model. I also thought they wouldn't let their name be used on Bumblebee any more due to the whole Germany war thing.
Since around the mid 90s VW/Porsche decided not to allow their vehicle toy licences to be associated with war. The last VW/Porsche Transformers we saw was in 1993 w/ G2 Bumblebee, Hubcap and Jazz. 1995's G2 Gobot Bumblebee transforms into a concept car that doesn't resemble a VW/Porsche vehicle. VW did allow Transformers to use the Beetle licence in 2010 for Transformers Disney Label Donald Duck (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Donald_Duck), because the toy isn't associated with war. MP Bumblebee will be the first Transformer toy in 4-5 years to carry a VW licence, but also the first TF in 21-22 years to do so with a war-associated character. The MP line (and subsequently Age of Extinction) also re-acquired the Lamborghini licence which had previously been 'lost' to Transformers as well, which is why Universe/Henkei Sideswipe/Sunstreaker/Red Alert transformed into approximations of Lamborghinis rather than any exact Lamborghini vehicle.

Thurmus
21st November 2014, 07:49 AM
Thanks for the info. Very interesting. If VW/Porsche approved this, you would think a Jazz may be not too far off then.

Ace
26th November 2014, 09:41 PM
Hi guys,

Do we know how far off this fella is from being released?

Krayt
26th November 2014, 11:03 PM
End of the week

griffin
27th November 2014, 12:26 AM
Yep, still listed as November 29th (Saturday) on Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%80%90Amazon-co-jp-%E4%BA%A4%E6%8F%9B%E7%94%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%8 2%A4%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%8 2%AFVer/dp/B00IZ206PE/ref=sr_1_40?s=toys&ie=UTF8&qid=1417008275&sr=1-40&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC), so not likely to be delayed this close now.

UltraMarginal
27th November 2014, 04:59 PM
I'm pretty excited, I will be shipping this little guy with the Gokin Alpha Trion and the AD-31 Leader Optimus Prime early next week hopefully.

The last picture in this thread looks like more of a production version, less paint and more yellow plastic, it looks pretty clean.

now we just hold our breath for a Jazz. :D

drifand
27th November 2014, 08:14 PM
Jazz is a must buy for me, I love Porsche 935 since I was a kid.

kaiden
27th November 2014, 09:36 PM
i've loved the countach since childhood so having 4 released so far is pretty nice. just need Sunstreaker and Breakdown

kaiden
27th November 2014, 11:34 PM
some new pics!

the coin is gold (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-images-of-takara-tomy-masterpiece-mp21-bumblebee-box-face-coin/31707/) O_O

nsm034
28th November 2014, 07:49 AM
Just got payment request from HLJ so he is out

nexusnixx
28th November 2014, 10:27 AM
some new pics!

the coin is gold (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-images-of-takara-tomy-masterpiece-mp21-bumblebee-box-face-coin/31707/) O_O

Looks good!!! Cannot wait for it's arrival

Hursticon
28th November 2014, 03:01 PM
Just got payment request from HLJ so he is out

Yep, as did I & Drahsrebu too! - Can't wait to get the shipping notice now! :D:D:D

UltraMarginal
28th November 2014, 05:01 PM
I've put in my shipping request for it and AD-31 prime and Gokin Alpha Trion, should ship early next week. very excited. (Anime-Export)

nsm034
28th November 2014, 05:25 PM
i'm just putting it in private warehouse and get Magnus at the same time

Trent
28th November 2014, 06:44 PM
Shipping notice 😆

drifand
28th November 2014, 06:57 PM
Buying my Black Friday sale and then combine order.

Zippo
28th November 2014, 07:14 PM
HLJ sent me the payment request which I promptly paid, and then got their Black Friday sale notice. Maybe I could have saved a few extra dollars if I had of waited (though pre orders probably excluded)

drifand
28th November 2014, 08:37 PM
HLJ sent me the payment request which I promptly paid, and then got their Black Friday sale notice. Maybe I could have saved a few extra dollars if I had of waited (though pre orders probably excluded)

You still save on combine ship

xlojnr
28th November 2014, 08:40 PM
shipping notice too! can't wait for this one!

zaneiken
28th November 2014, 11:52 PM
i'm just putting it in private warehouse and get Magnus at the same time

Same here.

Hursticon
29th November 2014, 01:50 AM
Shipping notice 😆

Shibby! :D

laproblematique
29th November 2014, 05:41 AM
How much are HLJ charging for shipping these days on the masterpiece cars / large masterpieces like Magnus and Star Saber?

drifand
29th November 2014, 10:44 AM
How much are HLJ charging for shipping these days on the masterpiece cars / large masterpieces like Magnus and Star Saber?

They not available so you cannot get an estimate .
I will say that two ultra m would cost 3,500 yen via sal.

CoRDS
29th November 2014, 03:00 PM
shipping notice (chimungmung)

liegeprime
30th November 2014, 10:35 AM
Sigh, Au $ so low right now :( :( :( good thing Chimungmung gets their supply first. Cancelled my BBTS pre order as soon as I saw they had (chimungmung) their supply in. saved me a couple of dollars and a few more days of shipping time ;).

drifand
30th November 2014, 10:57 AM
Shipping only cost me about $7au from hlj after I combined with my other goods.

GoktimusPrime
30th November 2014, 10:59 AM
They not available so you cannot get an estimate .
I will say that two ultra m would cost 3,500 yen via sal.
Even with that cost of shipping, it still works out being approx. $120 cheaper than getting the local release. :o

Megatran
1st December 2014, 09:29 PM
Just wondering if anyone who's purchased MP Bumblebee from RK had received the shipping notification?

Thurmus
1st December 2014, 11:57 PM
I ordered from them but have not had shipping notification yet.

kaiden
2nd December 2014, 12:16 AM
Just wondering if anyone who's purchased MP Bumblebee from RK had received the shipping notification?

i have on the 28th

Tober
2nd December 2014, 05:17 AM
Just wondering if anyone who's purchased MP Bumblebee from RK had received the shipping notification?

yeah, they sent my order out last week but didn't tell me until today.

Megatran
2nd December 2014, 09:53 AM
Yep. Got notification from RK late yesterday. Shipped on 28th November.
(MP Wheeljack is also in the shipment :) )

Thurmus
2nd December 2014, 10:51 AM
I forgot I added the new ears kit for Masterpiece Wheeljack to my order so it won't ship until they come in. :rolleyes:

UltraMarginal
2nd December 2014, 10:53 AM
Shibby! :D

Duude!
:cool:

I got shipping notification yesterday(Monday) Anime Export, should hopefully be here by the end of the week. Tracking has it at Tokyo International. :D

Trent
2nd December 2014, 12:47 PM
Just got a phone call from the wife saying Bumblebee is at home waiting for me :D

Thurmus
2nd December 2014, 01:04 PM
Just got a phone call from the wife saying Bumblebee is at home waiting for me :D

You're looking really pale mate. I think you should go home sick and have a lie down. Hopefully you will feel better tomorrow.

xlojnr
2nd December 2014, 02:57 PM
Just wondering if anyone who's purchased MP Bumblebee from RK had received the shipping notification?

I received notification on Nov 28th, was waiting for me when I came back from overseas this morning (2nd Dec)

DELTAprime
5th December 2014, 08:32 PM
Anyone else got him yet? I think Bee looks better in hand than in pics. I'm a bit less impressed with Spike, mostly because of popping arm joints.

Hursticon
5th December 2014, 08:37 PM
Duude!
:cool:

SWEEET! :D


Anyone else got him yet? I think Bee looks better in hand than in pics. I'm a bit less impressed with Spike, mostly because of popping arm joints.

Right here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=447265#post447265) buddy. ;)

How are people popping Spike/Daniel's arms off? - I've transformed him about 7 or 8 times without that happening once. :confused:

DELTAprime
5th December 2014, 10:36 PM
How are people popping Spike/Daniel's arms off? - I've transformed him about 7 or 8 times without that happening once. :confused:

The ball joint at the end of the tube section of the arm pops real easy on his right arm. QC issue probably.

Hursticon
5th December 2014, 10:52 PM
The ball joint at the end of the tube section of the arm pops real easy on his right arm. QC issue probably.

News to me, sounds like I scored a gooden! :)

Trent
7th December 2014, 01:10 PM
The ball joint at the end of the tube section of the arm pops real easy on his right arm. QC issue probably.

It's not a QC issue, it's just that people need to work within the limits of the joint. If you bend it past its limit of course it's going to pop out. :rolleyes:

It happened to me once. Since then it's been fine and I've transformed it at least a dozen times.

DELTAprime
8th December 2014, 07:27 PM
It's not a QC issue, it's just that people need to work within the limits of the joint. If you bend it past its limit of course it's going to pop out. :rolleyes:

It happened to me once. Since then it's been fine and I've transformed it at least a dozen times.

Actually Optibotimus has the same problem as me, it's just the right one that likes to pop really easy. Look at his long winded review on Youtube to see.

Trent
8th December 2014, 08:39 PM
Actually Optibotimus has the same problem as me, it's just the right one that likes to pop really easy. Look at his long winded review on Youtube to see.

Quite frankly I would rather eat my own flesh than watch his reviews. They are that painful. But ok. Maybe Hursty and I got lucky with not really having that problem.