New generations figures

[fatbot]

Reading live tweets from tru.info, it appears that there will be 16 deluxe figures next year with a possible common theme: COMBINERS!

An silhoutte of Superion was shown.

More Titan class figures possible next year
Leader class G1 IDW Megatron comes with sticker sheet for comic book accuracy
Leader class Armada Megatron, new head, recolor of G1 version
Voyager Brainstorm IS a Headmaster, Arcana is his partner & will fit in cockpit
deluxe Arcee G1 inspired pink car
Deluxe Chromia IDW futuristic motorbike
2015 voyager optimus not a real truck

MP Bluestreak & Sideswipe getting a hasbro release

[kurdt_the_goat]

TFW has a truckload of em http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2014-hasbro-display-case-images-180463/

http://i.imgur.com/FV0UgoDm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/FV0UgoD.jpg) http://i.imgur.com/f0nOWJkm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/f0nOWJk.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/lxhuengm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lxhueng.jpg) http://i.imgur.com/JM1NHl9m.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/JM1NHl9.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/49aI2HQm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/49aI2HQ.jpg) http://i.imgur.com/ocMv4FCm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ocMv4FC.jpg)

[kaiden]

WOW! G1 ARCEE! the day has finally come... and its not bad looking either.

but damn that Brainstorm is epic. it looks very similar to FP's recent release but it has a ninja mask yay!

Chromia looks pretty decent too, very nice bike mode.

[DELTAprime]

Just keep refreshing TFW, they are putting up all of Hasbro's stock photos.

The new Voyager G1 Optimus Prime must be Hasbro's idea of a joke.

[CHILENO20]

They all look great! Does anyone think that Chromia looks like a cross between the ligth cycles from Tron & the mech bikes from Robotech?????

[fatbot]

They all look great! Does anyone think that Chromia looks like a cross between the ligth cycles from Tron & the mech bikes from Robotech?????

I think Chromia was designed with one eye on repainting her into Afterburner

[CBratron]

Am I imagining it or does Chromia borrow heavily from RiD Arcee? I mean look at the torso and feet.

After a closer second look, i'm convinced by her alt mode. With the knees tucked in and arms straight down the sides in a sort of foetal position, she is a heavily retooled Arcee mold where the biggest difference is the back kibble.

[CBratron]

And is anyone else amused that Arcee is a KO (albeit with improvements) of 3P versions?

Seibertron (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/botcon-2014-coverage-newly-revealed-generations-showroom-gallery/30623/)is also covering this too. Continuing photos in their comments section.

[1AZRAEL1]

It's Hasbro's IP. Arcee is finally done by Hasbro that looks good. It's a fair bit different from the 3P releases.

But by god, Hasbro, you have surprised me by doing an actual Headmaster with gimmick. With all the MP and Generations releases, I'm gonna be severely broke. Hasbro have finally done what most fans have been wanting for years, and doing them right.

I am pretty sure I'm buying all.

[CHILENO20]

I think Chromia was designed with one eye on repainting her into Afterburner

Hasbro repurposing bots? Surely you jest! Yeah I can see that happeing, albeit with some retooling :D

[Verno]

16 new Deluxe Figures :D ... with possible common theme of Combiners :( ...

Well, that rules Beast Wars out then. Enjoy your Superion, Devastator and Menasor.

[Starscream77]

So much goodness !!!
Like Az I think I will be broke cause I will be buying them all

[CBratron]

Hasbro repurposing bots? Surely you jest! Yeah I can see that happeing, albeit with some retooling :D

I'm considering getting a second Chromia to repaint into a Tron Lightcycle.

[Omega Metro]

They all look great! Especially Chromia! She is just sex on wheels....PHWOOARR!:o
Arcee is a little disappointing though. Skinny looking with tonnes of back kibble/backpack/shell former stuff happening there. Why didn't they make a Pink Arcee version of Chromia?:(
And I hope '317' printed on top of Arcees head will not be a feature of this toy.:mad:

[Sinnertwin]

16 new Deluxe Figures :D ... with possible common theme of Combiners :( ...

Well, that rules Beast Wars out then. Enjoy your Superion, Devastator and Menasor.

About time too. I've been wanting G1 inspired combiners from the moment the line debuted.

[Omega Metro]

16 new Deluxe Figures :D ... with possible common theme of Combiners :( ...

Well, that rules Beast Wars out then. Enjoy your Superion, Devastator and Menasor.

Yes, great news hey.:D


About time too. I've been wanting G1 inspired combiners from the moment the line debuted.

And the only problem with this now is that the Hasbro versions will be compared and judged by the previous 3rd party versions. So they are bound to be hated/criticised before they are even released.

[Verno]

Yes, great news hey.:D

Hahaha! I bet they're just saving their ammo for 2016. You just wait -- this time next year it will be ME doing the smiling!

Or they needed to save some news for SDCC in July :p

[CBratron]

And the only problem with this now is that the Hasbro versions will be compared and judged by the previous 3rd party versions. So they are bound to be hated/criticised before they are even released.

Judging by their Bruticus and Powercore Combiners, it isn't completely undeserved.

[1AZRAEL1]

And the only problem with this now is that the Hasbro versions will be compared and judged by the previous 3rd party versions. So they are bound to be hated/criticised before they are even released.

And if Hasbro does them well, I will buy them. PCC were not good combiners.

[CHILENO20]

I'm considering getting a second Chromia to repaint into a Tron Lightcycle.

AWESOME!!!!!

[Paulbot]

Arcee and Powerglide look terrific, and I'm happy about Bombshell but they better complete the set with Kickback now. Brainstorm and G1 Megatron are must gets too.


16 new Deluxe Figures :D ... with possible common theme of Combiners :( ...

Well, that rules Beast Wars out then. Enjoy your Superion, Devastator and Menasor.

Of course the combiners could include Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt?

[Bidoofdude]

Am I imagining it or does Chromia borrow heavily from RiD Arcee? I mean look at the torso and feet.

After a closer second look, i'm convinced by her alt mode. With the knees tucked in and arms straight down the sides in a sort of foetal position, she is a heavily retooled Arcee mold where the biggest difference is the back kibble.

It looks like a majorly retooled FE Arcee. I don't know if I want it now.
But definitely so far:
-DLX Arcee (I'm in love)
-Legends Bombshell
-Legends Thundercracker (looks way better than SS)
-Legends Windcharger
-Legends Powerglide
-Legends Cliffjumper
-Leader Megatron
-Voyager Brainstorm (HEAD ON!)

Voyager Optimus looks really bad to me. Megatron, though not as IDW as I'd like is still looking really good. Brainstorm and Arcee are to die for. The alt modes are so GEEWUN. Bombshell and Powerglide are really good as well. They're starting to go for more and more G1 alt modes.

Holy hell, did someone say combiners?!? Superion, Devastator and Menasor are MINE. We always have SDCC to reveal them and a Titan Trypticon. If they could put some attachment ports on the team leaders (Silverbolt, Motormaster) that could attach to Metroplex and a future Trypticon, that would be great. Come to think of it, having two of the Scramble City combiners' leaders would be a great selling point for a new Trypticon and Gens Metroplex.

[Sky Shadow]

Brianstorm and Arcee are perfect. :cool: (The rest are pretty ordinary.)

[Verno]

Of course the combiners could include Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt?

Indeed, it could. But given they (as Magnaboss) have never had any western media time, it's highly doubtful given the backlog of G1 combiners that are waiting to be done properly that we'd see such an obscure character being given an updated toy, and especially one that would require so much work and have basically zero scope of being repainted.

[Sinnertwin]

And the only problem with this now is that the Hasbro versions will be compared and judged by the previous 3rd party versions. So they are bound to be hated/criticised before they are even released.

The inevitable comparisons really won't bother me all that much. I find paying $500 for a third party combiner more insulting.

[Bidoofdude]

The inevitable comparisons really won't bother me all that much. I find paying $500 for a third party combiner more insulting.

^This. $100 a pop for one deluxe sized figure is outrageous. I'm really glad if they can pump something pretty good out for a good price. I hope they're available in a giftset, as well as separately. I'd prefer a giftset myself, just for the ease of getting them all.

[Oberon Sexton]

I really want to like that voyager optimus, but.... ugh. Maybe a head swap with a better looking optimus might make it better?

[Shirokaze]

Wow, so that was a huge onslaught of news. Never thought I'd see a G1 Arcee as long as I lived :p
Combiners are great news, but any excitement has been dampened by no mention of Beast Wars. The way they are talking, it seems likely we won't see any until 2016. :(
New Prime and Megs look a bit crap... too simplistic for the size classes in a Generations line perhaps?

[Jinto]

That Brainstorm! I'd been um-ing and ahh-ing over those 3rd party offerings but I'm glad I resisted, he looks so good! Loving his face sculpt. I'm all over these IDW inspired figures. Chromia too. It was clever of them to reuse the Arcee mould like that, I wonder if the canopy shield she uses in the comic can come off and be held? That would be a neat touch. They show her with it a lot in the comic so I'd say fair possibility.

Even some of the movie line has gotten me interested. That Break-out Battle 3 pack has a pretty sweet recolour of the Skids mould I'd like to get my hands on and who can say that Evasion Prime doesn't look better then the 1st release? I'm digging it.

The only things I'm not too keen on are that Leader Megatron (I was hoping for an IDW style) and the Arcee. After the G1 movie I drifted from TF's and didn't come back until Beast Wars, so I missed most of her.

I like the chunky Voyager Prime but will probably pass on him as he doesn't really fit in with other classics.

[M-bot]

If there's more Titan class TFs in the offing, my guess would be for a Metroplex repaint ahead of Trypicon. Not my preference, just what I guess will happen. I had better get my Metrotitan finished and sold before there's an announcement!:eek:

[MayzaPrime]

Just keep refreshing TFW, they are putting up all of Hasbro's stock photos.

The new Voyager G1 Optimus Prime must be Hasbro's idea of a joke.

That Optimus is awful!!!!

I really like everything else...
Brainstorm = instant buy
G1 Megatron; Looks good I would have preferred it to be closer to IDWs version.
Armada Megatron; Looks better than the G1 version.
Arcee = instant buy
Chromia = instant buy
Bombshell = instant buy
Powerglide = instant buy
Thundercracker an easy pass, I am happy with my CHUG versions
Windcharger I will decided later, I have the CHUG scout version and I am very happy with that one.

[GoktimusPrime]

For me...

Optimus Prime: Pass. I see no need to replace the already excellent Classics Voyage Optimus Prime, especially with a toy that looks inferior to it.
Brainstorm: Yes.
G1 Megatron: Yes.
Armada Megatron: Pass.
Arcee: Yes.
Chromia: Yes.
Bombshell: Yes. Also, are they actually calling this toy Bombshell or Hardshell?
Powerglide: Undecided. I already have the Takara Ultra Class version. Currently a maybe.
Thundercracker: Undecided. I do have all the Seekers in the original Classics F15 mould... I wouldn't mind collecting them as F22s, but I hope HasTak doesn't do a repeat of making us wait half a freakin' decade to collect the whole set! :o
Windcharger: Pass. I'm happy with the Scout Class figure. :)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Wow, they (generally) look very good.

Arcee is nice, just a shame by what looks like the car bonnet on her back. Hopefully it's just mistransformed. Brainstrom ! O!M!G! Love it. Bought on sight! Headmaster FTW and it looks great with neck articulation tooooooo. Chromia is a pleasent surprise. I'd buy it for the vehicle mode alone

All the rest are ok.

Except for Armada Megs. Ugly. Only thiing that looks Amarda megsy is his head. He better come with a Leader-1 too! Otherwise that's just poor.

Powerglide I am surpised at as the DOTM little on was pretty good. Is this new one a deluxe?

I quite like my RTS Windcharger, but might have a look. Or just wait for the new one to be recoloured.

Would that Optimus make a recolour into MotorMaster perhaps?

[kurdt_the_goat]

I seem to be in the minority, but i think that Brainstorm looks rubbish. Well, it looks fairly accurate/good as a robot, but as a Transformer it looks like a 3-step happy meal toy.

http://i.imgur.com/D5xCrCql.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/D5xCrCq.jpg)

[Gofigure]

Lots of win here guys. I'm continually surprised how much hasbro is putting into G1. It's so great. As long as they keep releasing them I will keep buying.

My boys 6th birthday is coming up so there is plenty for him to pick from ;)

[AJ_Prime]

Some very nice reveals here. Excellent news for fans. Bad news for wallets LOL.

[Sinnertwin]

Now that i've had a good look at all of them,
Preordered on sight. Every. Single. One.

Nemesis Prime, Powerglide, Bombshell, Afterburner... can't wait :D

[Mythirax]

WOW! G1 ARCEE! the day has finally come... and its not bad looking either.

but damn that Brainstorm is epic. it looks very similar to FP's recent release but it has a ninja mask yay!

Chromia looks pretty decent too, very nice bike mode.

So, so, so excited!

[SharkyMcShark]

I seem to be in the minority, but i think that Brainstorm looks rubbish. Well, it looks fairly accurate/good as a robot, but as a Transformer it looks like a 3-step happy meal toy.

http://i.imgur.com/D5xCrCql.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/D5xCrCq.jpg)

Well done, you successfully killed just about the only excitement I'd generated for this recent round of announcements.

That transformation isn't even trying.

[Mythirax]

Well done, you successfully killed just about the only excitement I'd generated for this recent round of announcements.

That transformation isn't even trying.

Look at it in a good way. The way he transformers removes all kibble? The figure actually looks nice in both modes.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Brainstorm (so-so alt-mode, but sweet-looking bot mode), Bombshell (and a Shrapnel, and hopefully eventually a Kickback), Chromia and Arcee are all on my list - once TT puts them out, anyway. Too much great stuff coming out soon for me to put down import prices here.
Also agree that Chromia would make for a great Afterburner retool.
Would probably pick up more of the Legends, but I've already got versions of most of them that I'm happy with. On the fence re. Powerglide.

News of combiners sounds good, though I imagine it'll be a bit like the FoC Combaticons where I'll be looking for a 3P add-on kit to iron out the rough edges. Still, that's a hell of a lot better than getting into the 3P combiner scene in a big way (I'm making an exception for Feral Rex, but otherwise 3P combiners are a bit too costly for my tastes) or trying to hunt down G1 reissues.:eek:
If they end up putting out a Titan-class Trypticon, I may be in trouble...I'll have to pick up 'plex as well. Especially if they end up being compatible with the Combiner leaders.

[Verno]

Please don't think I'm not delighted to see the Generations line continuing, because I am; I'm thrilled. It's the line Hasbro has been trying to produce since 2007 when it first tried the Classics, but they've never quite been able to get it right. This iteration of Generations toys however seems to have gotten the formula pretty close -- it's just been Hasbro's delivery of them that's left a lot to be desired :p

Is it just me or are all these new toys very weapons-heavy? There's guns all over the place, and it's fantastic!

[Firestorm]

Personally, I'm actually not too thrilled with what we got to see from botcon.

All the AOE reveals sucked (why aren't there generations versions of Rollbar, Steeljaw, Junkheap and the Vehicon that actually are their own moulds?)

The 2 Leader Megatrons look very simple and ugly, I was really hoping for something more like IDW Megs. my opinion may warm to him but for now he's gone from insta-buy to we'll see....

Chromia looks very nice, although it's a little depressing she isn't an entirely new mould. I really hope that her cockpit can be removed to be held as a shield.

New Optimus looks... weird. like it looks like a simplified smaller figure that just got upscaled. I'm hoping it will look better when we get to see more pics of it but for now it looks like a joke.

The new legends are... ok. Bombshell looks decent enough, Powerglide looks ok but since we already had the universe 2.0 giant powerglide and the DOTM Commander Powerglide I don't see why we really needed this one. Windcharger looks strange as a repaint of the very IDW Tailgate, in my opinion that mould only works as Tailgate, and Windcharger should have just stuck to it's Scout figure from a few years back. the other repaints are meh and expected

Arcee is probably the thing I am most upset about... when I look at the pics of her. she just looks TERRIBLE, so much backpack, weird robot proportions, ugly vehicle mode that doesn't even look like anything, it's SOOOO G1. to me it just looks like they took an unfinished scrapped design for an actual G1 Arcee figure from back in the 80's and just added some extra articulation to it. it is the Arcee that all the G1 fans have been waiting almost 30 years for, but I am not one of those fans. Don't get me wrong I am super happy for everyone who is in love with this figure, but it doesn't appeal to me, I was hoping for one of her various IDW designs

Brainstorm is the saving grace, when I heard he was "very G1" and a headmaster I got worried I'd hate him, but seeing pics he looks AMAZING!! Nice big voyager, looks similar to his IDW design, the headmaster looks like an actual head and has articulation in the neck. even if his transformation looks pretty simple I still think he looks awesome.

The theme for next year being combiners fills me with anticipation, dread and sadness.
the prospect of getting more official combiners is awesome, because if there is anything better than giant robots, it's giant robots that combine with other giant robots to make an even giant-er robot :D
but it saddens me that Combiners are the main theme of next year since it means we probably won't be seeing any new Beast Wars characters :(
and based on some of Hasbro's previous combiners (PCC, FOC Bruticus) I am nervous and filled with dread at the thought that this could be a year full of ugly incomplete feeling figures that combine into lanky messes of giant robots that just don't look impressive.....

hopefully when we get more info from SDCC and when we see some of the figures for RID2015 (assuming they make Generations versions of them) there will be more things I like

[Hursticon]

Righty-o you buggers, Ka-Blam!:


Generations: Deluxe - Arcee
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Deluxe-Arcee-car_1403381815_zps9cf58456.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Deluxe-Arcee-bot_1403381815_zpsfd3979d4.jpg

Generations: Deluxe - Chromia
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/GEN-Deluxe-Chromia-cycle_1403381815_zps7d90db05.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/GEN-Deluxe-chromia-bot_1403381815_zps41b3595e.jpg

Generations: Legends - Powerglide
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Powerglide-plane_1403381112_zps7a222ac4.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Powerglide-bot_1403381112_zpsd05cffc0.jpg

Generations: Legends - Windcharger
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Windcharger-car_1403381112_zps7326c0dc.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Windcharger-bot_1403381112_zps89ee8155.jpg

Generations (AoE/Movie): Deluxe - Rollbar
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Breakout-Battle-Rollbar-car_1403382885_zps4bb56d5d.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Breakout-Battle-Rollbar-bot_1403382885_zpsdfa3e1ae.jpg

Generations: Legends - Bombshell
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Bombshell-bug_1403381112_zps165e1ab8.jpg http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Legends-Bombshell-bot_1403381112_zps898be648.jpg

Generations: Voyager - Brainstorm (w/ Arcana)
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Voyager-Brainstorm-jet_1403381362_zps3a21092b.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Voyager-Brainstrom-bot_1403381362_zps41cde868.jpg

Generations: Legends - Nemesis Prime w/ Spinister
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Nemesis-Prime-truck-copy_1403380653_zps34b48bae.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Nemesis-Prime-bot-copy_1403380653_zps06dc27a5.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Spinister-copter-copy_1403380653_zps3f12ece6.jpg

Generations: Legends - Cliffjumper w/ Suppressor
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Cliffjumper-car-copy_1403380653_zpsb4315920.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Cliffjumper-Suppressor-copy_1403380653_zps3750a501.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Legends-Suppressor-car-copy_1403380653_zpsad03c5b4.jpg

Generations: Leader - Megatron
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Leader-Megatron-tank_1403382060_zps874de59b.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Leader-Megatron-bot_1403382060_zps16905f33.jpg

Generations: Voyager - Optimus Prime
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Voyager-Optimus-truck_1403381586_zps1776a5ac.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Voyager-Optimus-bot_1403381586_zps30a57ebb.jpg

Generations: Leader - Armada Megatron
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Leader-Armada-Megatron-tank_1403382060_zps185686ce.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/Gen-Leader-Armada-Megatron-bot_1403382060_zpsef186928.jpg

[High_Q]

'Thrilling 30th' is now worthy of that name.

Finally, an official G1 inspired Arcee toy. The altmode is perfect and my only complaint about the bot mode is the amount of back kibble (given this is at the deluxe price point, that's forgivable). It seems that the stock photo bot mode is mis-transformed as the actual display toy has part of the back kibble folded up to make it less visible.

Generations Brainstorm looks great in both modes. As a few people already noted on this thread, while its transformation is simple (and looks to be identical to the original toy's transformation), the bot mode is highly poseable and is inspired his IDW incarnation, the jet mode is sleek...and it has the headmaster gimmick!!

Please Hasbro/Tomy, give us more Generations Headmasters toys!

Voyager OP - what were they thinking ...

[MayzaPrime]

Does anyone else find it funny that Spinster is now a targetmaster weapon???

Or am I the only one? :o

[Hursticon]

Does anyone else find it funny that Spinster is now a targetmaster weapon???

Or am I the only one? :o

Hehe, the Irony is not lost, I assure you. :D

[yoshi594]

everything is a must buy EXCEPT that fat prime. I could tolerate YOTS Optimus cos he combined with YOTS Omega supreme but this new fat prime is a pass for me.

I hope these toys get delayed, wallet is becoming anorexic!

[Verno]

Perhaps Hasbro's mandate for 'simplified transformations' has unfortunately (for older fans) filtered through to lines outside of the Movies. As much as they're (generally) paying homage to G1 characters, we mustn't forget that these are children's toys.

[Hursticon]

Hahaha! I bet they're just saving their ammo for 2016. You just wait -- this time next year it will be ME doing the smiling!

Or they needed to save some news for SDCC in July :p

Exactly my thoughts dude, I knew if I looked through the thread you'd of said it. ;):D

There is something to be said in leaving the BEST, i.e. Beast Wars ;), for last - in the case of the Generations line. :cool:


Of course the combiners could include Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt?

Oh - F***!!! :eek::eek::eek:

I'd never even considered Magnaboss or Tripredacus! - Hell, even RiD Railracer could get a look in! :D


Indeed, it could. But given they (as Magnaboss) have never had any western media time, it's highly doubtful given the backlog of G1 combiners that are waiting to be done properly that we'd see such an obscure character being given an updated toy, and especially one that would require so much work and have basically zero scope of being repainted.

Straxus/Darkmount & Black Shadow/Sky Shadow are exceptions to that rule dude, not to mention Junkion Junkheap - It could do them well to have a mixture of old & newer combiners, breaks up the line a bit, besides there's always the Tripledacus & Magnaboss II repaint potentials! ;):cool:

That said, if this leads to a proper Piranhacon, Abominus & Monstructor? - I'll accept them in-lieu. :D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I seem to be in the minority, but i think that Brainstorm looks rubbish. Well, it looks fairly accurate/good as a robot, but as a Transformer it looks like a 3-step happy meal toy.


G1 accuracy my friend. Getting just to show headmaster lurve

[Sky Shadow]

Does anyone else find it funny that Spinster is now a targetmaster weapon???

There does seem to be a kind of size logic to the Generations Legends 'Targetmaster' partner homages so far:

Reflector is a camera, Chop Shop is an insect, Waspinator is also an insect (and Beast Wars scale), Roller is Roller, and all the rest are Micromasters. So it's possible that there was actually some thought put into Spinister becoming a Targetmaster weapon, rather than it being a random slap-a-name-on-a-helicopter decision. :)

[Robzy]

Wow. It's difficult to not be impressed by all these reveals.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Looking at it, it seems like Chromia might be a new mold with a really similar transformation to PRiDE Arcee.
I don't remember PRiDE Arcee having a waist joint (though I may be wrong), and the front part of her backpack looks quite different in terms of how it works.

Still kinda lazy, I'll pay, but it looks good and there's only so many ways you can do bikeformers.

[Firestorm]

Looking at it, it seems like Chromia might be a new mold with a really similar transformation to PRiDE Arcee.
I don't remember PRiDE Arcee having a waist joint (though I may be wrong), and the front part of her backpack looks quite different in terms of how it works.

Still kinda lazy, I'll pay, but it looks good and there's only so many ways you can do bikeformers.

That's what I thought at first too, but after looking at pictures of the two of them side by side I'm relatively certain that Chromia is just a remold of PRiDe Arcee. the chest, shoulders, hands and thighs are all the same but recoloured. the shins/feet appear to be the same, maybe a minor remould on the kickstand.
The wheels, head, forearms, weapons and window thingy are all new

[fatbot]

I can't see it, but people online are claiming that the 2015 voyager Prime will be repainted into Motormaster & that it already has the bits & pieces needed to combine into Menasor

[Hursticon]

I can't see it, but people online are claiming that the 2015 voyager Prime will be repainted into Motormaster & that it already has the bits & pieces needed to combine into Menasor

I've heard murmurings of supposed "Ports" being sited on the Prime mold also, but I've yet to see anything that resembles such :o - I'd imagine they'd do a retooling of the mold, along the lines of Sandstorm/Springer, to suit too if they were going to do it...

Time will tell I guess. :)

[Omega Metro]

everything is a must buy EXCEPT that fat prime.

I actually think Optimus looks great! Very muscular looking. A definate buy for me.:)

[yoshi594]

I actually think Optimus looks great! Very muscular looking. A definate buy for me.:)

I could see him as motor master if they give him the right head sculpt. Prime on steroids doesn't do it for me.

[Lord_Zed]

Seems like a mix of win and lose there, but some Generations releases are always better than none (even though we never get any here in Aus anymore)

Arcee, Chromia and Brainstorm all look better than I would have expected. Arcee even appears to have paint apps wow!

Brainstorms jet mode looks a bit meh, but his robot mode is MTMTE good.

Bombshell is not bad.

As for the second coming CHUG toys, I'm not sure if it's the photos but Prime and Megatron seem to have really weird proportions (and faces). Powerglide is a definite improvement on the previous giant one. and Windcharger (and to some extent Cliffjumper) seems like a case of why bother, still probably good for fans who weren't collecting back when the previous toys were released.

I also appear to be of the odd camp who actually thinks that Armada Megatron somehow looks better than his G1 incarnation. Glad to see Hasbro finally remembered what Tanks actually look like.

[Bidoofdude]

G1 accuracy my friend. Getting just to show headmaster lurve

Not only that, I think having a Headmaster that can sit in the jet and still have articulation makes up for the somewhat lackluster transformation. He also has Headmaster sensor things like the G1 toy, from what I've heard.

[dirge]

I'm not bothered by Arcee's backpack. Look at Arcee in TFTM; a boxy bar into a curvy robot - all that squareness was going to have to kibble-ify somewhere. Even at Voyager level there was gunna be some kibble. I'm just glad we're getting G1 Arcee. Heck I might even grab a second to put on the shelf with G1 Hot Rod & co.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

He also has Headmaster sensor things like the G1 toy, from what I've heard.

:eek: Really? That would be so frikking cool! MUST GEEEEEET!

So, in IDW land, is Brainstorm still a Headmaster? Is Arcana still alive or has he disappeared? The way the US/UK marvel handled the Headmasters always bugged me a little. I never saw any advangtage to them having the head be a completely separate entity from the start.

[Paulbot]

:eek: Really? That would be so frikking cool! MUST GEEEEEET!

So, in IDW land, is Brainstorm still a Headmaster? Is Arcana still alive or has he disappeared? The way the US/UK marvel handled the Headmasters always bugged me a little. I never saw any advangtage to them having the head be a completely separate entity from the start.

No, there's only two Headmasters in IDW (as we know them, plus some in the ancient days): Scorponok and Sunstreaker (former).

[Lordy]

Brainstorm looks amazing, can't wait to get my hands on him

[canofwhoopass_87]

I knew it! I knew Hasbro had it in them to do great looking classics style Headmasters.



Arcee is a little disappointing though. Skinny looking with tonnes of back kibble/backpack/shell former stuff happening there. Why didn't they make a Pink Arcee version of Chromia?:(


Are you for real man? No one here would want the new Arcee to be a repaint of Chromia - especially after they just released those photos :confused:

Collectors finally have a G1 Arcee!

[Omega Metro]

Are you for real man? No one here would want the new Arcee to be a repaint of Chromia - especially after they just released those photos :confused:


Yes I am for real.;)

[1AZRAEL1]

I for one really dig Powerglide. The massive Generations figure to me was crap, and never really liked the movie release of him because he looked ugly. Now this robot mode looks fantastic like his G1 self.

[ChlorHex]

Good to see that Hasbro is finally placing a bigger focus on the collector market.
They've obviously realized that a lot of dough has been pumped into the 3P market and they want a share of that big piece of pie (that was originally theirs anyway... But you snooze you lose).
A little late but better late than never I guess :p

[GoktimusPrime]

It's only a matter of time until some third party manufacturer makes a briefcase (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Briefcase) to go w/ Generations Brainstorm. :D

[Firestorm]

It's only a matter of time until some third party manufacturer makes a briefcase (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Briefcase) to go w/ Generations Brainstorm. :D

I'm counting on it :D
that will take the best figure revealed at Botcon and make it even better

[Mythirax]

I knew it! I knew Hasbro had it in them to do great looking classics style Headmasters.



Are you for real man? No one here would want the new Arcee to be a repaint of Chromia - especially after they just released those photos :confused:

Collectors finally have a G1 Arcee!

Do the dance, make a little love. Get down tonight! Get down tonight!

[Sinnertwin]

Do the dance, make a little love. Get down tonight! Get down tonight!

:D
Aww hell, why not

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyUk5RrKfUs

[Oberon Sexton]

Man... all they had to do was retool evasion mode movie optimus voyager so he didn't look like a stick insect and I would have been extremely happy... sigh...

[Mythirax]

:D
Aww hell, why not

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyUk5RrKfUs


:D:D:D:D Someone's on the ball!

[yoshi594]

have they ever reissued the head/target masters? (besides fort max).

The only complete headmaster I have is Mindwipe (Boxed :D).

[Sky Shadow]

have they ever reissued the head/target masters? (besides fort max).

Targetmasters Kup, Hot Rod and Stepper were reissued so extensively that you can still get them for super-cheap. Many of the the rest were reissued in 1993-4, but you'd still pay vintage prices for any of those.

[5FDP]

Collectors finally have a G1 Arcee!

QFT! I can finally replace my Animated Arcee with a more g1'esq figure. Only took them 28 years :rolleyes: :p

[1AZRAEL1]

I think I must be the only person liking Prime and Megs. Prime reminds me quite a bit of Powermaster Prime without the armour, and Megs robot mode looks alot like G1.

[Bartrim]

Loving Brainstorm. A definite ad to the collection.

[Omega Metro]

I think I must be the only person liking Prime and Megs. Prime reminds me quite a bit of Powermaster Prime without the armour, and Megs robot mode looks alot like G1.

I love Prime and Megs also. Prime looks amazing IMO. ;)

[Verno]

Straxus/Darkmount & Black Shadow/Sky Shadow are exceptions to that rule dude, not to mention Junkion Junkheap - It could do them well to have a mixture of old & newer combiners, breaks up the line a bit, besides there's always the Tripledacus & Magnaboss II repaint potentials! ;):cool:

That said, if this leads to a proper Piranhacon, Abominus & Monstructor? - I'll accept them in-lieu. :D

From what I understand, Black Shadow/Sky Shadow and Junkheap were both retools of existing figures. Straxus/Darkmount is the exception and was an original figure in his own right, but given the fact he is a tank, it's a mold that was destined to be repainted and retooled. Plus, he's a G1 character seen in the Comics, whereas Magnaboss as Magnaboss has never been seen in the west in anything outside of convention comics as far as I know. We got a glimpse of Cybertronian versions of the individuals members in The Ascending, but we've never gotten to see Magnaboss officially.

All this leads me to believe we'll only be seeing G1 Combiners. If I'm wrong, then fantastic!

[Zommael]

My thoughts on Megatron(s): I think most people will be going for the grey, G1 styled Megatron, but in my opinion, it's not the definitive Megatron we were expecting. The proportions are too odd, and it doesn't have the detailing we'd hope for from an IDW-inspired Megs. However, in my opinion this is made up for by the presence of the Armada version. That toy has the advantage of being able to be a homage to both G1 and Armada Megatrons without having to actually be G1 Megatron. It also has a better colour scheme; it's almost inevitable that the G1 Megatron will be 99% Hasbro grey which is appalling. Although there are elements which do not match Armada Megatron very well such as the chest and torso region, Armada Megatron didn't really have much detail in those areas so it's okay, in my opinion. Armada Megatron is also a less iconic character so it's easier for Hasbro to take liberties. I'm also kind of happy that this is the way, since it leaves the excellent Animated leader Megatron in front as the best G1-inspired Megatron figure ever made. In other words, as is my wont, I'll be getting the version of the toy that isn't grey.

Thoughts on everything else: Brainstorm looks fun; Optimus Prime looks horrible; Movie Platinum packs all look good but I need to know if the leader pack will have the dark blue of the at-show pieces or the translucent plastic of the official images; Arcee is pure fan service for the G1-crowd, but unless I end up getting it as part of a bulk order, I'll be sticking with Prime Arcee as the best version of the character; I like Chromia; not that interested in Legends.

Overall a good Botcon.

[kup]

I was a bit disappointed with Brainstorm but after looking at more pics, I am beginning to warm up despite the very simplistic engineering.

The Fembots are pretty good although Arcee seems to be carrying the entire car on her back.

Legends like Powerglide and Bombshell are pretty decent.I am particularly happy about the former as we haven't really gotten a decent Powerglide, 3P or official.

However Windcharger, Cliffjumper and the voyager Megs and Prime are pretty terrible. The Megs mold works for Armada but looks really off as G1. The Voyager Prime is horrible at all levels.

Well, hit and miss really. Not very exciting for me as even the good toys come with a 'but' like uninspired engineering and odd design choices. However we did get some good toys and Generations is at least continuing.

[Verno]

Perhaps the idea was originally to have the tank Megs be G2 Megs, but then some genius said "Or, we put a spiky head on it and turn it into Armada Megs instead" and so we couldn't have two green tanks so they made one grey.

[kup]

Perhaps the idea was originally to have the tank Megs be G2 Megs, but then some genius said "Or, we put a spiky head on it and turn it into Armada Megs instead" and so we couldn't have two green tanks so they made one grey.

The chest is wrong though if it was intended to be G2. I think they just decided to do G1 Megatron as a tank and that's how it turned out.

[Tober]

That tank Megatron is begging for a G2 repaint.

If the Rhinox, Rattrap and Waspinator Generations figures sold well then it makes sense that Hasbro would continue with more Beast Wars. Afterall, how many G1 figures are left besides the combiners... and Head/Target Masters..? Maybe some more G2... :o

[Zommael]

Perhaps the idea was originally to have the tank Megs be G2 Megs, but then some genius said "Or, we put a spiky head on it and turn it into Armada Megs instead" and so we couldn't have two green tanks so they made one grey.

We were told from NYCC that the upcoming Megatron was supposed to be "definitive", so I doubt it would have been planned as G2 Megatron, although I could believe a G2 repaint was considered before eventually settling on Armada.

By "definitive" I (and I'd imagine others) assumed something that would blow Masterpiece and previous attempts at the character out of the water, and presumably be based on Megatron's current IDW appearance. This looks like a good toy, but it isn't that, which is what makes me glad of the Armada version, which doesn't have to be "definitive", just better than Mr No-hips.

[5FDP]

Legends like Powerglide and Bombshell are pretty decent.I am particularly happy about the former as we haven't really gotten a decent Powerglide, 3P or official.

The DOTM scout class Powerglide (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Powerglide_%28DOTM%29) was pretty good and an able substitute IMO. Having said that, I plan on getting the Generations version as well.

[millhouse]

Currently wanting Arcee, Bombshell, Powerglide, and the two AOE packs with Evasion Mode Optimus Prime repaints in them. Add to that the Evolution Prime pack and possibly Jetfire, and the "I'm done on anything non-MP" line just keeps getting extended.

I did pass on the G1-recoloured FOC Grimlock pack though. Self control FTW, right?

[SuspectimusPrime]

If the new Voyager Megs is too ugly for me to handle (once reviews are out), I might still go for the Armada incarnation. Looks like the right amount of ugly for that character (which I never owned).

Also, I sincerely hope that Armada Megatron is not a glimpse into IDW Megs' direction in the current comics.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Acree, Brainstorm, Powerglide, Bombshell & IDW Megatron are total stand outs for me! :D

All the others, well, I love them too! Would love to see Chromia redone as Afterburner :D


It's just a fantabulous-freaking-time to be a TF collector!!! :D:D

[Omega Metro]

It's just a fantabulous-freaking-time to be a TF collector!!! :D:D

And an expensive time.:D

[millhouse]

The DOTM scout class Powerglide (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Powerglide_%28DOTM%29) was pretty good and an able substitute IMO. Having said that, I plan on getting the Generations version as well.

I always figured this was meant to be a G1-homage, until they kicked it to the movie line and put a new head on it.

Needless to say, the old one will stay in alt mode, and the new one can be displayed in robot mode. #winwin

[Lint]

Hasbro steppin up their game. Lovin it!

[Verno]

16 Deluxe figures to come, with a focus or 'Theme' of Combiners.

Superion is 5.
Menasor is 5.
Devastator is 6.

16.

[Paulbot]

That new Megatron (and Armada Megatron) should be leader class right? Like Jetfire. Seems to be some confusion.

[griffin]

Megatron is Leader Class, and was originally planned to be released with Jetfire to launch that size class, but was held back until early next year... according to one of the Hasbro people at the convention.

[Sinnertwin]

16 Deluxe figures to come, with a focus or 'Theme' of Combiners.

Superion is 5.
Menasor is 5.
Devastator is 6.

16.

I sure hope so :D

[kup]

The DOTM scout class Powerglide (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Powerglide_%28DOTM%29) was pretty good and an able substitute IMO. Having said that, I plan on getting the Generations version as well.

I have that toys as a 'substitute'. Not that happy with it as a proper 'Classics' representation of Powerglide.

[Golden Phoenix]

Megatron is Leader Class, and was originally planned to be released with Jetfire to launch that size class, but was held back until early next year... according to one of the Hasbro people at the convention.

He's A Leader Class!?!?! Looks pretty simple for a Leader class. Looks almost like you could complete the transformation in like 5-7 steps.

[Lord_Zed]

He's A Leader Class!?!?! Looks pretty simple for a Leader class. Looks almost like you could complete the transformation in like 5-7 steps.

Leader class eh? That explains why he's so damn ugly, Hasbro just don't seem to know how to make good large toys.

[Omega Metro]

He's A Leader Class!?!?! Looks pretty simple for a Leader class. Looks almost like you could complete the transformation in like 5-7 steps.

That I like. A definate buy.

[fatbot]

16 Deluxe figures to come, with a focus or 'Theme' of Combiners.

Superion is 5.
Menasor is 5.
Devastator is 6.

16.

Did they say no voyager sized molds for the teams? I was thinking we may get 4 deluxe & 1 voyager per team. That way we'd get Superion & Menasor next year with the rest of the teams spread out over the years following.

[reillyd]

He's A Leader Class!?!?! Looks pretty simple for a Leader class. Looks almost like you could complete the transformation in like 5-7 steps.

I think that's the whole point, as we're seeing with AOE. Personally I like quick simple transformations, as I do them more often. If it's too time consuming or tricky, I just leave them in one mode.... And it's not a transformer experience. Kids can get 6-7 steps, like G1.

You can see Brainstorm, for example, is just a few intuitive steps.

[Omega Metro]

I think that's the whole point, as we're seeing with AOE. Personally I like quick simple transformations, as I do them more often. If it's too time consuming or tricky, I just leave them in one mode.... And it's not a transformer experience. Kids can get 6-7 steps, like G1.

You can see Brainstorm, for example, is just a few intuitive steps.

This^. I think I have transformed my AOE transformers more in the past week than any of my other movie/classics formers since I've had them due to AOE toys simpler transformations.

[Oberon Sexton]

I think that's the whole point, as we're seeing with AOE. Personally I like quick simple transformations, as I do them more often. If it's too time consuming or tricky, I just leave them in one mode.... And it's not a transformer experience. Kids can get 6-7 steps, like G1.

You can see Brainstorm, for example, is just a few intuitive steps.

It's funny how conflicted I am as I both agree and disagree with you at the same time. I think the main thing for us adult collectors are the overall aesthetics of both robot and alt mode. I agree that a short, easy intuitive transformation is favourable, but personally I'd never sacrifice how the figure looks for easier transformation. Like a lot of other people here, I'm also waiting to see what he looks like in hand before making a decision. Promo pics have lied to us in the past, both negatively and positively.

[doublespy]

Maybe someone's said it before, but that is a damn clever reuse of the existing RiD Arcee CAD model to turn it into Chromia. This along with the Sandstorm retool of Springer, I'm really glad Hasbro have gone out of their way to make retools worth buying.

Oh and that Arcee is an instant buy:D

[dirge]

If the Rhinox, Rattrap and Waspinator Generations figures sold well then it makes sense that Hasbro would continue with more Beast Wars.


I do wonder how many more BW characters they can visit though. Cheetor & Dinobot have been done (if not particularly well). Tigatron, Silverbolt, Airazor, Terrorsaur, Scorponok, Quickstrike, Inferno, Depth Charge & Rampage pretty much covers it. Maybe they're pacing themselves.

Terrorsaur is the one I'd snap up - but I reckon most wouldn't be as excited by him.



Afterall, how many G1 figures are left besides the combiners... and Head/Target Masters..? Maybe some more G2... :o

Yeah not a lot. Deluxe Insections/Shrapnel/Bombshell, the Autobot clones, Throttlebots sans Goldbug, Monsterbots, Slugfest, Firecons/Sizzle/Fizzle. I doubt we'll see any more Pretenders. The other Dinobots are the other obvious group, mind you. Some of these are both unlikely & would be a tricky sell. Throttlebots, Insecticons & Dinobots would sell well, the Autobot clones probably would too. The others would be riskier.

[DELTAprime]

I think that's the whole point, as we're seeing with AOE. Personally I like quick simple transformations, as I do them more often. If it's too time consuming or tricky, I just leave them in one mode.... And it's not a transformer experience. Kids can get 6-7 steps, like G1.

You can see Brainstorm, for example, is just a few intuitive steps.

I never had a G1 Brainstorm but I don't think it was exactly a super complex transformation.

[5FDP]

The other Dinobots are the other obvious group, mind you. Some of these are both unlikely & would be a tricky sell.

I reckon if we're going to see them, now's the time *fingers crossed*

[DELTAprime]

16 Deluxe figures to come, with a focus or 'Theme' of Combiners.

Superion is 5.
Menasor is 5.
Devastator is 6.

16.

I just had a terrible thought. IDW Spoilers: What if we do get Devastator but we get Hook as the right leg and Prowl as the head!:eek:

[Sky Shadow]

I just had a terrible thought. IDW Spoilers: What if we do get Devastator but we get Hook as the right leg and Prowl as the head!:eek:

That would be the most awesome thing ever.

[CBratron]

Why would that be terrible? They like the way he thinks!

[Defcon]

We could see more Dinobots, but I would say they will leave them for a while, as we will first probably see a boxset of the movie ones in G1 colours in a platinum generations release.

[Verno]

I just had a terrible thought. IDW Spoilers: What if we do get Devastator but we get Hook as the right leg and Prowl as the head!:eek:

There was talk of Hasbro getting behind something from the IDW-verse and that the IDW people were quite surprised and delighted by it. People speculated it was going to be a Megatron with an Autobot badge, but this theory of yours could be more on the money.

If I had to guess, I'd say you'd get a Devastator with the ability to do that, rather than a Devastator built specifically for that.

[CBratron]

I don't think Hasbro would even try a multi-configuration Devastator. It would be awesome but just wouldn't jive with their current policy of simpler transformation.

[Bidoofdude]

There was talk of Hasbro getting behind something from the IDW-verse and that the IDW people were quite surprised and delighted by it. People speculated it was going to be a Megatron with an Autobot badge, but this theory of yours could be more on the money.

If I had to guess, I'd say you'd get a Devastator with the ability to do that, rather than a Devastator built specifically for that.

I agree. Have the six constructicons, then give them the ability afterward to combine with Prowl. It'll please everyone.

[Verno]

I don't think Hasbro would even try a multi-configuration Devastator. It would be awesome but just wouldn't jive with their current policy of simpler transformation.

He's due though. If its Combiners that Hasbro have in their sights next, he's too iconic not to do. And if they can slip in a little extra like that, then they're getting some extra mileage out of him.

[Oberon Sexton]

After staring at that voyager optimus prime for a couple minutes, I've already figured out 98% of its transformation... I'm just not certain how the head stores, but if they showed the back of the figure, theres probably a little section where it tucks into. =\

[i_amtrunks]

There was talk of Hasbro getting behind something from the IDW-verse and that the IDW people were quite surprised and delighted by it. People speculated it was going to be a Megatron with an Autobot badge, but this theory of yours could be more on the money.

If I had to guess, I'd say you'd get a Devastator with the ability to do that, rather than a Devastator built specifically for that.

Gimme gimme gimme!

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't see why Hasbro can't just make the standard Constructicons, and release a separate Prowl toy that happens to be cross-compatible. Yeah alright, it would most likely mean compromises to the engineering of the Prowl figure compared to say Universe/Henkei Prowl, but that's to be expected w/ gestalt figures anyway. Include a flippable table for added value. :p ;)

[Hursticon]

Did they say no voyager sized molds for the teams? I was thinking we may get 4 deluxe & 1 voyager per team. That way we'd get Superion & Menasor next year with the rest of the teams spread out over the years following.

If this all pans out? - I really, REALLY hope they've learnt that a Voyager is required for the torso as a Deluxe simply does not cut the mustard. :o

[Sinnertwin]

If this all pans out? - I really, REALLY hope they've learnt that a Voyager is required for the torso as a Deluxe simply does not cut the mustard. :o

But they wouldn't have & we'll probably end up with another flimsy mess of plastic

[Hursticon]

But they wouldn't have & we'll probably end up with another flimsy mess of plastic

Quite possibly... In any case; I'm only really seeking to replace my FansProject enhanced Classics Energon mold Superion, as I'm pretty damn content with my MakeToys "Type-61" Green Giant & FansProject "M3" Intimidator. ;):cool:

If Hasbro DO end up producing Menasor & Devastator, and they're any good, I will certainly consider their purchase - Not holding my breath however. :)
(I want a modern Magnaboss, Tripredacus & Railracer anyway :p)

[reillyd]

If this all pans out? - I really, REALLY hope they've learnt that a Voyager is required for the torso as a Deluxe simply does not cut the mustard. :o

But it just might cut the cheese

[DELTAprime]

After staring at that voyager optimus prime for a couple minutes, I've already figured out 98% of its transformation... I'm just not certain how the head stores, but if they showed the back of the figure, theres probably a little section where it tucks into. =\

He is so obvious it's sad.

Transformation spoilers of Voyager Optimus His arms are obviously the front of truck mode with the windscreen forming the back of his shoulders. The legs looks to just fold down like the G1 toy, not like modern toys where you spin the legs around. and his lower torso and crotch look to fold back into the truck.

I just really wish he had a bigger, more IDW head.

[Alpha Supreme]

Well done, you successfully killed just about the only excitement I'd generated for this recent round of announcements.

That transformation isn't even trying.

Well the originals were worse... but I guess we didn't know better back then... it did however make us use our imagination.

[Jaisun]

You know how sometimes you see a girl from behind (or guy, depending on your preference), and think "Wow!". Then... they turn around, and it changes to "oh... that's a shame..." Generations G1 Arcee is the opposite; from the front, oh so lovely! That backpack though... "oh... that's a shame..."

Still a definite purchase of course, but her 'little' booster/wing thingoes are a fav aesthetic feature of mine, so maybe it matters more to me than most.

[Omega Metro]

You know how sometimes you see a girl from behind (or guy, depending on your preference), and think "Wow!". Then... they turn around, and it changes to "oh... that's a shame..." Generations G1 Arcee is the opposite; from the front, oh so lovely! That backpack though... "oh... that's a shame..."

Still a definite purchase of course, but her 'little' booster/wing thingoes are a fav aesthetic feature of mine, so maybe it matters more to me than most.

I agree. ;)

[Alpha Supreme]

QFT! I can finally replace my Animated Arcee with a more g1'esq figure. Only took them 28 years :rolleyes: :p

I'll be replacing my energon Arcee... although she was a good size and had a lovely head sculpt.

[Alpha Supreme]

That Powerglide is beautiful! I do and don't understand the Windcharger as it's a natural repaint of Tailgate... I think the already existing mold was superb and should have been repainted to tailgate with a slight remold perhaps. Bombshell looks awesome and I WILL pre-order that Arcee!!!

[Bidoofdude]

That Powerglide is beautiful! I do and don't understand the Windcharger as it's a natural repaint of Tailgate... I think the already existing mold was superb and should have been repainted to tailgate with a slight remold perhaps. Bombshell looks awesome and I WILL pre-order that Arcee!!!

Windcharger needs a bigger head. Other than that, I like it. I like it a bit more than the RTS scout because I didn't like the red being on the front of the torso in robot mode on the scout. This does the trick.

[Alpha Supreme]

Windcharger needs a bigger head. Other than that, I like it. I like it a bit more than the RTS scout because I didn't like the red being on the front of the torso in robot mode on the scout. This does the trick.

Wish they would bring back the scout class... I like it better than the Legends size class.

[z3r03d]

[QUOTE=kurdt_the_goat;421807]TFW has a truckload of em http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2014-hasbro-display-case-images-180463/

http://i.imgur.com/FV0UgoDm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/FV0UgoD.jpg) http://i.imgur.com/f0nOWJkm.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/f0nOWJk.jpg)

wow arcee!! im inlove!!!!

[CBratron]

Just got an email from RK saying Wave 5 deluxes are available for preorder (http://www.robotkingdom.com/pre-order-by-month/october-2014/37986079h.html). $124.90 for 8 figures and a lot of them seem to be favorites.

Product Description:
Pre-order.Available in Oct 2014

1xTRA GENERATIONS DLX NIGHTBEAT

2xTRA GENERATIONS DLX ARCEE

2xTRA GENERATIONS DLX CHROMIA

1xTRA GENERATIONS DLX WINDBLADE

1xTRA GENERATIONS DLX SCOOP

1x TRA GENERATIONS DLX WASPINATOR

I don't knowo why they have a pic of Jhiaxus there.

[Tober]

Just got an email from RK saying Wave 5 deluxes are available for preorder (http://www.robotkingdom.com/pre-order-by-month/october-2014/37986079h.html). $124.90 for 8 figures and a lot of them seem to be favorites.

Thank you! :)

[griffin]

Official Product images from Hasbro Columbia (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/upcoming-generations-product-shots-180747/), of Arcee, Chromia, Windblade, Nightbeat, and Jhiaxus.

[Tober]

So how come RK's description lists Scoop as a figure but shows Jhiaxus instead..?

[Sinnertwin]

I'm waiting for the email from BBTS about my cancelled Arcee & Chromia order

[CBratron]

Why would you get an email from them? Don't you just adjust the amounts on the Preordered Products list to zero and then update the entry?

[Sinnertwin]

Why would you get an email from them? Don't you just adjust the amounts on the Preordered Products list to zero and then update the entry?

I ordered a set of two when they were first announced, but then they were removed from my preorders



Hello,

Hasbro has just informed us that the Deluxe Wave 05 Case assortment has been cancelled. This case contained Arcee, Chromia, Waspinator and Scoop. They have confirmed that Arcee and Chromia are still going to be released, but have been pushed to a future and currently unknown assortment. We have since been asked to remove the listing from our website until further notice, but your preorder will still remain on file. We truly apologize for this inconvenience.

[Starscream77]

I ordered a set of two when they were first announced, but then they were removed from my preorders

Thats strange, i ordered the same 2 ages ago and they are still in my POL and i didnt get that email ? I just checked and they even updated the order of Arcee & Chromia with pictures

[Sinnertwin]

Sounds like i was one of the lucky ones then :D

[1AZRAEL1]

Sounds like i was one of the lucky ones then :D

Yep mine's still there too. Though no picture on my preorder lol

[griffin]

Official images of Voyager Brainstorm (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/new-images-of-hasbros-brainstorm-180760/), which was noted as an October release at Botcon.

[1AZRAEL1]

I think that's the first time I've noticed the stats meter on his chest. I am gonna have to get this lol

[MayzaPrime]

I think that's the first time I've noticed the stats meter on his chest. I am gonna have to get this lol

I agree Az, he is a must buy!

[Oberon Sexton]

I love the look of that head sculpt. Especially after considering it's a headmaster. It really looks like HasTak has been picking up their game. The AoE Generations line really shattered my enthusiasm for their future products, but man have they got me excited again.

[autobreadticon]

The Hasbro paint scheme make them look kinda cheap, I really like the Legends Roadbuster over the Hasbro version, so maybe Takara will release the new Generation toys in better looking paint schemes in the Legends line

[millhouse]

Whenever the hell its released, and I get my Arcee and Chromia, the first thing I'm doing is chucking Chromia up for sale. Ugh, I hate it when you can't order single figures.

[Gouki]

Whenever the hell its released, and I get my Arcee and Chromia, the first thing I'm doing is chucking Chromia up for sale. Ugh, I hate it when you can't order single figures.

You're impatience or desire to get an entire wave at once doesn't alter the fact that you can absolutely order figures individually. It might take longer, it might be slightly more expensive, but what is the point buying a wave case if you don't want it all?

Finally figured out what my problem with Arcee is too! The face! It has no personality at all, so while that's great for the G1 cartoon incarnation, it's pretty bad for anyone who will buy it based on her from Prime or the comics (or reads the comic she'll be packaged with). Even a tiny smirk or something would go a huge way towards removing the blankness.

[millhouse]

You're impatience or desire to get an entire wave at once doesn't alter the fact that you can absolutely order figures individually. It might take longer, it might be slightly more expensive, but what is the point buying a wave case if you don't want it all?

Ah, I just have a pre-order at BBTS - it's not a full wave, just the pair of fembots. Will cancel it if a single order for Arcee comes up, but I usually have a POL at BBTS, so shipping is WAY better value. Right now, it was $31.99 for the two figures, so assuming the dollar doesn't shit itself, I can probably get $25 for Chromia and break even rather easily.

[Oberon Sexton]

Transformers Generations leader class Jetfire In-had review by Baltmatrix (http://youtu.be/t_rGGsU8OJs)

Looks pretty good. :D

[Defcon]

I must say that Jetfire looks like a well made figure. After seeing the transformation I'm more positive, because my first impression of this figure was negative. I still hate the chrome weapons, but will just take them off, looks better without them. I love the blue canopy, a clear one would be so unappealing. The hollowness on the forearms is annoying, thankfully the rest of the figure looks solid. I might consider getting some plastic card and cut it to fit and just pop into those forearms.

[Raptormesh]

Looks pretty good, too bad gerwalk mode is not really possible.

[Gofigure]

Looks great

Wished it scaled with MP10 but that's expecting a little too much.

Perfect amount of G1 and modern. Thx hasbro

[AJ_Prime]

This guy looks amazing, can't wait for his release! Transformation is pretty neat too.

[CyberiusPrime]

Well it would be a dream come true, but I'd love to see
technoboys (computron)

We know the other two, will be Menasaur and Superion
due to the thread plus pics

I doubt it would happen, but my wishful thoughts


16 new Deluxe Figures :D ... with possible common theme of Combiners :( ...

Well, that rules Beast Wars out then. Enjoy your Superion, Devastator and Menasor.

[Gofigure]

Oh and I don't think hasbro could make me any happier than to focus on combiners

Can't express how exciting it is to have these on the horizon. And they look great overall

For me, hasbro has hit the ball out of the park with these upcoming figs. Outstanding stuff :)

[kup]

Oh and I don't think hasbro could make me any happier than to focus on combiners


They actually could make you and everyone else happier - By releasing the damned things here!

[Sinnertwin]

They actually could make you and everyone else happier - By releasing the damned things here!

Eh, can't win 'em all ;)

[Gofigure]

They actually could make you and everyone else happier - By releasing the damned things here!

Not happening here? That's confirmed?

Crap :(

[dirge]

I think kup was commentating on their track record, Gofigure...

[Gofigure]

So that would be slim chance of getting all combiners? ;)

[kup]

Not happening here? That's confirmed?

Crap :(

We don't really know but the poor track record makes it a possibility that they may not release them here.

[Bidoofdude]

I'd honestly still buy online. Satisfaction guaranteed.

[GoktimusPrime]

As others have said, Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope.
Here's a list of all the Thrilling 30 toys which have been released overseas.
Legend
Blue = has been released in Australia
Red = has never been released in Australia

Optimus Prime & Autobot Roller (Legends)
Bumblebee & Blazemaster (Legends)
Starscream & Waspinator (Legends)
Megatron & Chop Shop (Legends)
Swerve & Flanker (Legends)
Autobot Cosmos & Payload (Legends)
Skrapnel & Reflector (Legends)
Tailgate & Groundbuster (Legends)
Trailcutter (Deluxe)
Orion Pax (Deluxe)
Megatron (Deluxe)
Bumblebee
Hoist (Deluxe)
Thundercracker (Deluxe)
Dreadwing (Deluxe)
Waspinator (Deluxe)
Autobot Skids (Deluxe)
Goldfire (Deluxe)
Armada Starscream (Deluxe)
Skywarp (Deluxe)
Mini-Con Assault Team (Deluxe)
Autobot Scoop (Deluxe)
Tankor (Deluxe)
Rattrap (Deluxe)
Autobot Springer (Voyager)
Blitzwing (Voyager)
Sandstorm (Voyager)
Decepticon Doubledealer (Voyager)
Rhinox (Voyager)
Autobot Whirl (Voyager)
Metroplex (Titan)

I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

[Sky Shadow]

I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

"Hello, this is Hasbro Australia. If your name is Goktimus Prime, please press '1'... Boop... brrrrrrrrrrr..."

[dirge]

"Hello, this is Hasbro Australia. If your name is Goktimus Prime, please press '1'... Boop... brrrrrrrrrrr..."

Man... this is gold!

brb ...I gotta go change my voicemail :D

[dirge]

The saddest part about the utter lack of Generations toys here is that many of us longer term fans don't even bother looking at the local stores anymore. BBTS is my local now :(

[Gofigure]

As others have said, Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope.
Here's a list of all the Thrilling 30 toys which have been released overseas.
Legend
Blue = has been released in Australia
Red = has never been released in Australia

Optimus Prime & Autobot Roller (Legends)
Bumblebee & Blazemaster (Legends)
Starscream & Waspinator (Legends)
Megatron & Chop Shop (Legends)
Swerve & Flanker (Legends)
Autobot Cosmos & Payload (Legends)
Skrapnel & Reflector (Legends)
Tailgate & Groundbuster (Legends)
Trailcutter (Deluxe)
Orion Pax (Deluxe)
Megatron (Deluxe)
Bumblebee
Hoist (Deluxe)
Thundercracker (Deluxe)
Dreadwing (Deluxe)
Waspinator (Deluxe)
Autobot Skids (Deluxe)
Goldfire (Deluxe)
Armada Starscream (Deluxe)
Skywarp (Deluxe)
Mini-Con Assault Team (Deluxe)
Autobot Scoop (Deluxe)
Tankor (Deluxe)
Rattrap (Deluxe)
Autobot Springer (Voyager)
Blitzwing (Voyager)
Sandstorm (Voyager)
Decepticon Doubledealer (Voyager)
Rhinox (Voyager)
Autobot Whirl (Voyager)
Metroplex (Titan)

I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

Whoa (in the words of keanu reeves)

[Starscream77]

The saddest part about the utter lack of Generations toys here is that many of us longer term fans don't even bother looking at the local stores anymore. BBTS is my local now :(

I am exactly the same mate. POL all the way

[MayzaPrime]

Got my Leader Jetfire :D

[Lord_Zed]

The saddest part about the utter lack of Generations toys here is that many of us longer term fans don't even bother looking at the local stores anymore. BBTS is my local now :(

They still have toy stores here? :eek:

[dirge]

They still have toy stores here? :eek:

Note I didn't say toy stores ...

(But yeah there's Toys R Us)

[Sinnertwin]

I am exactly the same mate. POL all the way

Ditto.
I get the odd toy on sale or MP through TrU, but other than that, nada.

[5FDP]

As others have said, Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope.
Here's a list of all the Thrilling 30 toys which have been released overseas.
Legend
Blue = has been released in Australia
Red = has never been released in Australia

Optimus Prime & Autobot Roller (Legends)
Bumblebee & Blazemaster (Legends)
Starscream & Waspinator (Legends)
Megatron & Chop Shop (Legends)
Swerve & Flanker (Legends)
Autobot Cosmos & Payload (Legends)
Skrapnel & Reflector (Legends)
Tailgate & Groundbuster (Legends)
Trailcutter (Deluxe)
Orion Pax (Deluxe)
Megatron (Deluxe)
Bumblebee
Hoist (Deluxe)
Thundercracker (Deluxe)
Dreadwing (Deluxe)
Waspinator (Deluxe)
Autobot Skids (Deluxe)
Goldfire (Deluxe)
Armada Starscream (Deluxe)
Skywarp (Deluxe)
Mini-Con Assault Team (Deluxe)
Autobot Scoop (Deluxe)
Tankor (Deluxe)
Rattrap (Deluxe)
Autobot Springer (Voyager)
Blitzwing (Voyager)
Sandstorm (Voyager)
Decepticon Doubledealer (Voyager)
Rhinox (Voyager)
Autobot Whirl (Voyager)
Metroplex (Titan)

I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

I knew the situation in Australia was bad but I never realised it was THAT bad! Hasbro probably came to the realisation that people are just going to buy from OS because it's cheaper and easier so now they don't give a stuff about the local market.

[Zommael]

I knew the situation in Australia was bad but I never realised it was THAT bad! Hasbro probably came to the realisation that people are just going to buy from OS because it's cheaper and easier so now they don't give a stuff about the local market.

It's less to do with Hasbro and more to do with retailers. Hasbro have offered the Generations line to retailers for the past two years, but none have picked it up, basically because it has no media to support it and therefore the retailers fear having to work to sell the stock. Griffin has written extensively about this.

[klystron]

As others have said, Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope.
Here's a list of all the Thrilling 30 toys which have been released overseas.
Legend
Blue = has been released in Australia
Red = has never been released in Australia

Optimus Prime & Autobot Roller (Legends)
Bumblebee & Blazemaster (Legends)
Starscream & Waspinator (Legends)
Megatron & Chop Shop (Legends)
Swerve & Flanker (Legends)
Autobot Cosmos & Payload (Legends)
Skrapnel & Reflector (Legends)
Tailgate & Groundbuster (Legends)
Trailcutter (Deluxe)
Orion Pax (Deluxe)
Megatron (Deluxe)
Bumblebee
Hoist (Deluxe)
Thundercracker (Deluxe)
Dreadwing (Deluxe)
Waspinator (Deluxe)
Autobot Skids (Deluxe)
Goldfire (Deluxe)
Armada Starscream (Deluxe)
Skywarp (Deluxe)
Mini-Con Assault Team (Deluxe)
Autobot Scoop (Deluxe)
Tankor (Deluxe)
Rattrap (Deluxe)
Autobot Springer (Voyager)
Blitzwing (Voyager)
Sandstorm (Voyager)
Decepticon Doubledealer (Voyager)
Rhinox (Voyager)
Autobot Whirl (Voyager)
Metroplex (Titan)

I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

Geez. That list is just embarrassing. :o
Not to mention disappointing. And lame.

[liegeprime]

It's less to do with Hasbro and more to do with retailers. Hasbro have offered the Generations line to retailers for the past two years, but none have picked it up, basically because it has no media to support it and therefore the retailers fear having to work to sell the stock. Griffin has written extensively about this.

Well it still falls to Hasbro to produce a suitable media to help promote their products. For all the commercials we are seeing on TV in between cartoons, it's all just botshots and movieline.... even if there was no cartoons they should've come up with eyecatching commercials which would help sell the toys and something to show the retailers that this is how exciting it will be , so kids will be asking their parent to buy them these... as such it's all just botshots commercial ;(. Even leap frog has much more exposure commercial wise than TFs IMO.

[Sinnertwin]

As others have said, Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope.
Here's a list of all the Thrilling 30 toys which have been released overseas.

The Generations line, which as been pointed out, has been passed on by the major retailers. Looking at an itemised list like that can be frustrating, but here's a list of some of the Kreo figures that i've seen released here

Fangwolf
Highbrow
Jarugar
Jetwash
Mindswipe
Misfire
Nightbeat
Silversnout
Skrapnel
Torosaur
Trypticon
Wingspan Hawk
Grimstone
Lazerbolt
Obsidian
Volcanicon
Autobot Drift
Lockdown
Optimus Prime
Autobot Ratchet

Are we going to start singing Hasbro's praises now?



I made three attempts to call Hasbro AU last week to speak with them about this very issue, but I was answered by a machine which diverted me and hung up on me each time. :mad:

Just send them an email next time. I've found that they usually reply within a day or so :)

[Paulbot]

There is a difference between 2 or 3 waves of Kreons received compared to 4 waves of Legends, 5 waves of Deluxes, and 3 waves of Voyagers that weren't.

[Oberon Sexton]

How are Kre-o's seen more financially viable than actual Transformers? I really don't understand retailers sometimes :mad:

[Sinnertwin]

There is a difference between 2 or 3 waves of Kreons received compared to 4 waves of Legends, 5 waves of Deluxes, and 3 waves of Voyagers that weren't.

Is it? Gok's happy to write a list detailing every character that wasn't made available here, i'm happy to present the
figures that are available, regardless of it's subline. Granted Kreo may not have been the best option, but you get the idea.

Those 4 & 5 waves of figures you mention aren't exactly bursting with variety either. Legends : 2 per wave, Voyagers about the same. Yes, there are revision waves, but if Hasbro present retailers with case splits of just two characters with no media support, it isn't the most appealing of propositions. The one i would agree with is Deluxes, at least there are 3/4 different choices per case
.

[griffin]

It's less to do with Hasbro and more to do with retailers. Hasbro have offered the Generations line to retailers for the past two years, but none have picked it up, basically because it has no media to support it and therefore the retailers fear having to work to sell the stock. Griffin has written extensively about this.

Yeah... listen to my publicist. He speaks the truth. :p

Retailers are equally to blame, as Hasbro have had Generations on display at every Toyfair since the series started.
Hasbro show the retailers each toyline, talking about the products in each (I'm there long enough to watch the routine a number of times, because I want to pick up on anything interesting that is meant for retailers ears only).
If you see the photos, often Hasbro will highlight the toylines that have cartoon or commercial support, which the retailers ultimately prioritise if they are only able to spend X amount of dollars on each Brand.

If you want Generations toys picked up by Retailers, you have to send emails to the Retailers like the old letter-writing campaigns, or else they will just go by their default setting and assume that the interest is just in the toylines that get advertising (cartoons, movies or TV commercials).

[griffin]

It might appear true to use the last year and a half of Generations to then claim for future product "Hasbro AU's track record doesn't offer much hope", but since we've had a fairly good track record for the Brand here and our toy industry products are decided on a year-by-year basis by the Retailers, it is selective/subjective/misleading to focus on one rotting tree in a healthy forest and claim that the entire forest is rotten.
Generations is one line that Hasbro here (and America) is pushing to the retailers quite hard, but the retailers are limited by what they can buy of each Brand.

It's like Andrew Bolt constantly showing a graph of the last 16 years of global average temperatures to "prove" that the Earth is not warming, but if you look at the entire graph of 150-ish years of recorded temperatures (http://homework.uoregon.edu/pub/class/es202/ov2.html), we have had significant rises in global temperature during the second half of the 20th Century. That's the type of journalist he is, manipulating evidence to fit his opinion, instead of showing the facts and generating opinions to fit.

Of all the Transformers products, Generations is indeed the worst with release here, followed by Kreo (we missed almost all of the 2nd and 3rd series)... but if you are only look at one year of Generations toys it makes it look like Hasbro have neglected the entire Brand.
But looking at the entire range of Transformers toys (below), we've been quite prolific, with product going to at least one store if there wasn't enough demand for all stores (eg. Rescue Bots).
We've even been getting a lot of items before America in the last few months, including store exclusives.

So far from this years toys that have been released globally, we've got...
4 of 17 - TFPrime (even America missed most of these)
0 of 15 - Generations
25 of 38 - Kreo (we should be getting at least 6 of those other 13 soon)
0 of 8 - Beast Hunters Construct-Bots (even America missed these)
13 of 17 - Movie Construct-Bots (we should get the other 4 here)
7 of 8 - Movie Deluxe (Lockdown should show up soon)
4 of 4 - Movie Voyagers
3 of 3 - Movie Leaders
7 of 7 - Power Battlers
8 of 8 - One-Step basics
1 of 1 - One-step Mega
0 of 1 - Stomp & Chomp (its here, but not being released until September)
2 of 5 - Flip & Change
0 of 3 - Dino Sparkers
3 of 4 - 12inch Titans
2 of 2 - 12inch Titans with weapons
2 of 2 - 16inch Titans
15 of 17 - Movie store exclusives (only missing Battle Masters Op & Grim, and Kreo Elite Optimus)
5 of 8 - non-Movie store exclusives (MP, Legends, YOTH - will be 7 of 8 with other two MP toys soon)
12 of 17 - Rescue Bots
4 of 6 - Mr Potato Heads
10 of 10 - Hero Mashers
1 of 5 - Battle Masters

That's a lot of product lines for Retailers to contend with for just one toy Brand... so priorities have to be made, and its the ones that sell themselves through movies and cartoons, then higher margin items, that are prioritised by Retailers.


Just send them an email next time. I've found that they usually reply within a day or so :)


I agree with this. I get a slightly better return on emails than phone calls.

But keep in mind, their "customer service" is primarily there for "customers" - Retailers who buy and sell their products, and Consumers who have purchased an item and have a question or complaint about it. They are not required to give advance info on items (because it could be a competitor asking), and only do it as a courtesy to people they assume are collectors... if they have time during their busy schedule (they don't just sit around all day drinking coffee and reading magazines waiting for the phone to ring).
Hounding them or complaining about not getting a reply will just prompt them to ignore you... and other people asking about future product.

I try to ask about future product as often as possible without it being harassment (we hear about new toys every week, but I can't send an email about every new item we hear about).
Besides, it's just toys... being demanding or impatient about release info gives us all a bad image to Toy Companies.