Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust [Archive] - Page 2 - Ozformers Transformers Club of Australia (otca.com.au)

griffin

22nd January 2015, 12:17 AM

Wouldn't Phillip Morris' legal team already be aware of Takara's intent to distribute locally & worldwide anyway?

They would, but at least if we don't get a legal demand to desist in promoting or advertising the item, or assist in acquiring one through any source, we can claim that we were not aware of it.
And just hope that PM hasn't filed something with Customs to screen for it, based on it being designated cigarette advertising or a childs toy related to cigarettes.

Ode to a Grasshopper

22nd January 2015, 12:26 AM

When I used to work for one of the two main grocery chains and it was my day for picking cigarettes for the stores, it was like looking at a set of trading cards... and I would often look out for any new ones and read their descriptions, just for the morbid curiosity. :oI always thought it was a bit of a missed opportunity for tobacco companies...all it needed was one line to turn an intended advertising negative into an incentive to buy even more packets of smokes:
Collect Them All!:D

TF76

22nd January 2015, 01:06 AM

I've been following this story on an overseas board and its has been hilarious to me. I haven't really been following transformer news for a long time. I'm sure this is just obvious and every day stuff (in the world of collectors) but anyway.

People are just crazy there (on the other board).

First it's announced the majority hated it, thought it was ugly

Then it was possibly not going to be available in their country, then many suddenly loved it and needed it.

Then it was announced its deco was slightly changed (not that it was ever that accurate anyway). Now it was going to be readily available and the majority hated it again.

Now it's rumored it is canceled again all together and now people suddenly love it and need it again. Lol

Insanity. :D

Tober

22nd January 2015, 01:07 AM

Strange days.. A tobacco company missing an opportunity to advertise to a young market, resulting in the chances that a KO Transformer's deco will be more accurate than the official product.

As with Macross product, it is too difficult to stop people privately importing it from a legal country. They could only crack down on stores selling it where they have jurisdiction.

griffin

24th January 2015, 01:40 AM

I was totally skipping this MP, but now it's looking like this release is going to be so rare it's making me kinda wish I had ordered him from Japan along with everyone else :rolleyes:

Ehobbybaseshop in HK still has it for pre-order (http://www.ehobbybaseshop.com/?sp=&p=6&cat2=2&cat1=3&cat0=3&id=1075&cat1=3&cat0=3&new=1&more=&lang=en) for US$56, listing 10 units available (which I guess means they have a set number on order already).

GoktimusPrime

24th January 2015, 09:26 AM

I don't see what the issue is for us as non U.S. fans. Just pre-order from a non-U.S. source like HLJ etc. :confused:

As for U.S. fans, does this ruling just mean that U.S. based stores cannot sell this toy, or does it additionally mean that the toy cannot be imported to the U.S.A. by non-U.S. sellers? (so a similar issue that we faced w/ MP Megatron back in 2007) If it's the latter, then I can understand the frustration from U.S. fans, unless I've overlooked something I don't see how it's an issue for us.

drifand

24th January 2015, 09:30 AM

Blame the person who made an issue out of nothing and resulted in its current state. Sadly this is coming from a collector from TF forums. I wonder if he/she is hated for doing it.

I am washing my hands of this and I don't want to know how or what is going to happen. I am buying it and hopefully is not way off from what its initial state was. If it gets canned, then so be it. TT will need to replace a number for that piece.

rodent

24th January 2015, 12:33 PM

TT's solution is simple - release an all-white Stratos Turbo, and include a sticker sheet with strategically-sized red triangles and black letters.

drifand

24th January 2015, 12:48 PM

TT's solution is simple - release an all-white Stratos Turbo, and include a sticker sheet with strategically-sized red triangles and black letters.

sadly this isn't TT style, and if this is so, I expect the figure's price to be dropped, and actually I would pull out from my order as its no longer a proper produced coloured toy.

rodent

24th January 2015, 12:52 PM

You are a hard man to please drifand :P

Gofigure

24th January 2015, 12:58 PM

The good news for me is I have no emotional attachment to the character. So when repaint like this comes up I don't feel compelled to purchase.

I only collect MP and third party these days and only characters that mean something too me.

Saves a few bucks to boot ;)

drifand

24th January 2015, 02:44 PM

You are a hard man to please drifand :P

Yup, not denying it. I had to lower my expectations a lot to be happy to be honest.

As for emotionally attach to this figure, not really, but I be disappointed which I am that it has changed from initial design.

I dunno how is the end product for this but it doesn't look too good at the moment. And if it changes too much it isn't exactly a masterpiece anymore imo, is a compromised piece.

GoktimusPrime

24th January 2015, 03:18 PM

sadly this isn't TT style,
Remember that copyright/trademark/intellectual property laws are VERY strict in Japan, as is Japanese culture when it comes to the use of other people's IP (thus generating negative publicity for TakTOM). Even providing the means for people to replicate the Marlboro logo via stickers might potentially constitute a legal violation.

The good news for me is I have no emotional attachment to the character.
I doubt most Transfans would have an emotional attachment to Exhaust, unless they happened to have grown up playing w/ a Marlboor Lancia Stratos Turbo Diaclone Car Robot toy. I have an emotional attachment to Magnificus, because I didn't have Perceptor as a kid, but I did get the Microman version that was released here; so I grew up with a black and grey Perceptor. Likewise if they ever reissued G1 Shockwave, I would love to see it reissued in his original "Galactic Man" colours, as that was the toy that I grew up playing with (since G1 Shockwave was never released in Australia). But I have childhood memories attached to those toys; I have no childhood memories attached to Marlboor Wheeljack. So if I get MP Exhaust, I'll be happy - but I won't be devastated if the whole toy gets cancelled either. I'd be just, "Meh. Oh well," and move on. :p Whereas when I got G1 and Generations Magnificus, my reaction was more one of, "zOMG! zOMG! zOMG!" (especially the G1 version) :D

I'd personally get more excited over an MP Slicer. ;)

Yup, not denying it. I had to lower my expectations a lot to be happy to be honest.
I think it's fine to have high standards, but also important to have realistic standards too. :o e.g. be aware of what is legally possible for HasTak, as well as what would be feasible for their market etc. What you or I may personally expect or prefer as individuals, may not necessarily reflect what would be viable for HasTak to do. I mean, I would love a toy accurate flat-headed Classicsverse or MP Ironhide or Ratchet, but I know that I'm in a distinct minority who would -- so I don't seriously expect HasTak to make such toys; not unless I want them to go out of business (which obviously I don't :p) ;)

drifand

24th January 2015, 03:28 PM

Which is why I said if it becomes over compromised, I rather they canned it.

Anyway, I just wait and see.

nexusnixx

24th January 2015, 09:35 PM

i still think it will be a sought after piece still...

just like MP Evangelion and MP Silverstreak :p

Gofigure

24th January 2015, 09:42 PM

Had no idea G1 shockwave wasn't released here. Could of sworn he was as a few friends had him back in the day

DELTAprime

24th January 2015, 10:14 PM

I doubt most Transfans would have an emotional attachment to Exhaust,

No attachment at all here. But I must have every main line MP release, it's like an addiction.:p

If TT kept to their normal numbering system and made Exhaust MP-20E I would not get him.

Darthprimus

8th February 2015, 05:36 PM

Paulbot

8th February 2015, 05:42 PM

hi guys i saw a 1/2 blacked out picture last year of the unmade g1 decepticon cars, which was where they apparently got the name exhaust from, now i cant find it. any pointers on where i can find the image

I made it up (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=19317) (was supposed to be a scan of an old photocopy :o )

Darthprimus

8th February 2015, 05:46 PM

dude your too cool for school lol.

ampoldj

12th February 2015, 05:33 PM

No attachment at all here. But I must have every main line MP release, it's like an addiction.:p

If TT kept to their normal numbering system and made Exhaust MP-20E I would not get him.

Hate to admit i got the same "addiction" thing of completing everything i started. Now that i am more than half of the MP main line looks like i have to get this guy or it wont look good everytime i see MP-24 after MP-22 :confused:

Feels like Takara will just keep the trend of putting these diaclones in the main line...looks like they got us

Anyway is this going to be released Feb28 or together already with Star Saber? My MP source from Taiwan is already asking me if i want him to send an invoice since it will be released Feb28 so he can reserve me one, 90aud postage included though he never confirmed if Coin is included.

EDIT: seller confirmed total 95aud with coin...hmmm i think i will just save it for MP10 reissue.

Megatran

12th February 2015, 05:48 PM

^ Based on the link to the thread below, both MP Exhaust & Star Saber are released on 21st March.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20273

BigTransformerTrev

12th February 2015, 07:34 PM

Ehobbybaseshop in HK still has it for pre-order (http://www.ehobbybaseshop.com/?sp=&p=6&cat2=2&cat1=3&cat0=3&id=1075&cat1=3&cat0=3&new=1&more=&lang=en) for US$56, listing 10 units available (which I guess means they have a set number on order already).

Cool! Do you have to pay for preorders up front with them or are they like BBTS?

ampoldj

12th February 2015, 08:26 PM

^ Based on the link to the thread below, both MP Exhaust & Star Saber are released on 21st March.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20273

Since most are just about RRP and I am already too late on POs might as well wait til the item hit the shelves and then decide about it.

Ode to a Grasshopper

12th February 2015, 08:29 PM

Just got a message from Amazon Japan, Exhaust has been pushed back to 31st March. Not sure what that means for non-Japanese retailers.

Megatran

12th February 2015, 08:32 PM

^ Thanks for the update.

It's not as if Exhaust is a totally new mould. :rolleyes:

If there are no further changes, we'll see MP-24 (Star Saber) released before MP-23 (Exhaust). :rolleyes:

DELTAprime

12th February 2015, 09:34 PM

^ Thanks for the update.

It's not as if Exhaust is a totally new mould. :rolleyes:

If there are no further changes, we'll see MP-24 (Star Saber) released before MP-23 (Exhaust). :rolleyes:

MP14 Alert was released before MP13 Soundwave thanks to Soundwave getting delayed.

Megatran

13th February 2015, 08:07 AM

Yes, but MP Alert was use of an existing mould, whereas MP Soundwave was a totally new mould.

Trent

13th February 2015, 09:16 AM

Yes, but MP Alert was use of an existing mould, whereas MP Soundwave was a totally new mould.

But given the controversy around Exhaust, it's hardly surprising.

DELTAprime

13th February 2015, 09:11 PM

Am I the only one with a bad feeling that customs is going to seize them?

Tober

13th February 2015, 09:20 PM

Am I the only one with a bad feeling that customs is going to seize them?

I think customs have better things to do...

GoktimusPrime

13th February 2015, 10:02 PM

I thought the prohibition was only in the U.S., not Australia. :confused:

drifand

13th February 2015, 11:12 PM

Am I the only one with a bad feeling that customs is going to seize them?

Nope. Is not megatron.

ampoldj

13th February 2015, 11:49 PM

Nope. Is not megatron.

Yep it is more he is just like a packet of cigarettes being imported :)

griffin

14th February 2015, 01:34 AM

So how many packs of (Exhaust) Cigarettes are you allowed to bring into the country duty free before they confiscate them... :p

ampoldj

14th February 2015, 11:55 AM

So how many packs of (Exhaust) Cigarettes are you allowed to bring into the country duty free before they confiscate them... :p

My friend got caught early this year and said only 50cigars allowed per 18yo and above...that means 2 packets for 25/packet :D

UltraMarginal

14th February 2015, 07:16 PM

I thought the prohibition was only in the U.S., not Australia. :confused:

this.

Hursticon

15th February 2015, 09:48 PM

this.

Yep, only the US branch got its knickers in a twist. ;):)

drifand

16th February 2015, 10:49 AM

I am assuming of course not 100% we are all adults here and I would just say, keep it low key and not make an issue out of it.

It may however bring alarm bells if TRU decides to import it. I can't say what will happen then. As that will be open to public officially.

MayzaPrime

17th February 2015, 06:58 PM

Defcon

17th February 2015, 07:40 PM

I think it would be unlikely that this release would be imported at TRU. It just would be risky, it could draw the wrong kind of attention, but I personally would not have a problem with it. It would be a terrible waste if the stock had to be removed from sale. I can't believe we have like 30 pages of comments for this release :) just saying

Megatran

1st March 2015, 03:45 PM

My order through AE has the note:

We are checking availability for this item. When restocked we will notify you by email. If unavailable we will refund you in full.

TAAUBlaster

1st March 2015, 03:48 PM

Just got my payment request from TFI.

Zippo

1st March 2015, 04:05 PM

Its not due to the 21/3

TAAUBlaster

1st March 2015, 04:18 PM

Its not due to the 21/3

Ah, really? I must've missed when the release date changed. Just sent a message to TFI to see what's doing.

Cleon

8th March 2015, 09:49 PM

Just saw this on YJP:

YJP - Exhaust (http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k188269635)

GoktimusPrime

8th March 2015, 11:31 PM

Just saw this on YJP:

YJP - Exhaust (http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k188269635)
"No refunds" <---:confused: I've never seen that before! :eek: Admittedly I've never used Yahoo JP before, but Amazon JP certainly doesn't have a "no refunds" policy. Not that I've ever needed to use it (as TakaraTOMY have always been good with providing replacement parts if anything's faulty). Still... weird that they would even have such a policy. Admittedly my knowledge of Japanese consumer law is virtually nil. :p I guess because customer and product service in/from Japan is so exceptional that I've never thought about it. :o

ampoldj

8th March 2015, 11:55 PM

"No refunds" <---:confused: I've never seen that before! :eek: Admittedly I've never used Yahoo JP before, but Amazon JP certainly doesn't have a "no refunds" policy. Not that I've ever needed to use it (as TakaraTOMY have always been good with providing replacement parts if anything's faulty). Still... weird that they would even have such a policy. Admittedly my knowledge of Japanese consumer law is virtually nil. :p I guess because customer and product service in/from Japan is so exceptional that I've never thought about it. :o

As far as i know in my 3years living in Japan they do not refund but replace the item with another item if you realized you dont want the item after sometime without much questions. Any defective items they do replace immediately like my Toshiba laptop with defective harddisk, they replaced the laptop and not just the hard disk. That is why I am amazed on my first time in Australia that you can refund or replace an item at major retail outlets like Big W, Target, TRU, etc. if you are not happy with it or simply changed your mind.

Cleon

8th March 2015, 11:58 PM

"No refunds" <---:confused: I've never seen that before! :eek: Admittedly I've never used Yahoo JP before, but Amazon JP certainly doesn't have a "no refunds" policy. Not that I've ever needed to use it (as TakaraTOMY have always been good with providing replacement parts if anything's faulty). Still... weird that they would even have such a policy. Admittedly my knowledge of Japanese consumer law is virtually nil. :p I guess because customer and product service in/from Japan is so exceptional that I've never thought about it. :o

I've never bought anything on Yahoo JP before, but from the listings I've seen, no refunds is quite common it seems. Similar to eBay auctions where rarely will sellers offer refunds readily (or even mention it on their listing).

Thought it was interesting that this person has one in hand (by the looks of things) already though! Guess that's good news for the people that have pre-ordered?

drifand

9th March 2015, 12:32 AM

I've never bought anything on Yahoo JP before, but from the listings I've seen, no refunds is quite common it seems. Similar to eBay auctions where rarely will sellers offer refunds readily (or even mention it on their listing).

Thought it was interesting that this person has one in hand (by the looks of things) already though! Guess that's good news for the people that have pre-ordered?

Not really, it is the compromised version we are all getting.

Bladestorm

9th March 2015, 02:23 AM

Defcon

9th March 2015, 07:34 AM

I suppose a lot of stores are going to have orders cancelled, in fear of the risk due to the legality of the figure. I assume this figure is going to have a very limited run with some pre orders not been filled. If this is the case, its probable we may see a new character at some stage produced from the Wheeljack mold.

Sinnertwin

9th March 2015, 10:59 AM

dont know about cancellation... Just seen images of the packaged figure on FB

drifand

9th March 2015, 11:09 AM

Just FYI, 2 stores on the ground here in HK have told me their orders for MP-23 have been cancelled and he is not legally allowed to be sold here (Hong Kong) anymore.

Not sure how this will affect Robot Kingdom...

would be better if you are specific which stores have an issue to have a better understanding for us where is this source coming from. Were you talking about local shops in HK? If it is, then I do smell trouble for this figure.

My orders have not been cancelled nor have I been told otherwise.
I am however okay with any cancellation, it is what it is, if Takara has broken copyright laws and will be in trouble for carrying on, then so be it cancel the figure and get a new replacement colour or do something else.

This is probably a big controversial figure if you asked me. I did intend to buy it because of Marlboro looked alike but if its not going to work, just scrap the idea.

griffin

9th March 2015, 01:21 PM

Just saw this on YJP:

YJP - Exhaust (http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k188269635)

Ah, a packaged toy for sale, to prove that it should still be getting a release... at least in Japan.

The packaging images have been mirrored here (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-exhaust-in-box-images-182243/) for when the YJP listing disappears.

I'm relieved to see that the Immobiliser accessory is not a JP Amazon exclusive... since it is on the box, it must be a regular release accessory.

As for the red colouring - we've never had a Transformers release of the "Marlboor" pre-Transformers toy, so it doesn't need to replicate anything that never officially existed in our Universe... and i'm happy with a "homage", which only needs to be close to the original to be classed as a homage.

Bladestorm

9th March 2015, 01:58 PM

Two local independent stores in Wan Chai that I deal with face to face. Physical on the ground stores, not online stores...
As Optimus would say "sorry, my bad." I should have elaborated.

They both get their stock direct through Hasbro HK as opposed to resellers.
I am headed out to Mong Kok this week time permitting so will be interesting to see if any of the stores in the malls out there have a different take on it.

would be better if you are specific which stores have an issue to have a better understanding for us where is this source coming from. Were you talking about local shops in HK? If it is, then I do smell trouble for this figure.

My orders have not been cancelled nor have I been told otherwise.
I am however okay with any cancellation, it is what it is, if Takara has broken copyright laws and will be in trouble for carrying on, then so be it cancel the figure and get a new replacement colour or do something else.

This is probably a big controversial figure if you asked me. I did intend to buy it because of Marlboro looked alike but if its not going to work, just scrap the idea.

drifand

9th March 2015, 04:47 PM

drifand

9th March 2015, 04:50 PM

Ah, a packaged toy for sale, to prove that it should still be getting a release... at least in Japan.

The packaging images have been mirrored here (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/masterpiece-exhaust-in-box-images-182243/) for when the YJP listing disappears.

I'm relieved to see that the Immobiliser accessory is not a JP Amazon exclusive... since it is on the box, it must be a regular release accessory.

As for the red colouring - we've never had a Transformers release of the "Marlboor" pre-Transformers toy, so it doesn't need to replicate anything that never officially existed in our Universe... and i'm happy with a "homage", which only needs to be close to the original to be classed as a homage.

If that's the end result, it isn't that bad. I can live with it. I know I am not 100% happy but I think is very minor and some decals would make this toy what I want it to be.

Looks to me, this will be a highly prized toy for collectors.

ampoldj

9th March 2015, 09:42 PM

My order coming from Taiwan will be shipped by March 26 as messaged to me this morning, but as far as i know they get their stock from HK as well so may be it is still a GO...

Ode to a Grasshopper

11th March 2015, 09:03 AM

drifand

11th March 2015, 10:43 AM

Am I going to see sky rocket prices for this piece despite the changes already applied?

griffin

11th March 2015, 11:34 AM

More rumours of cancellation - link from tformers.com (http://tformers.com/rumor-masterpiece-mp-23-exhaust-to-be-cancelled-outright/26068/news.html).

Curiously enough all I've heard from Amazon Japan is that I've saved ~$3 because of their ''lowest price over the life of your order' deal, so AFAIK it's still coming.

Wouldn't it be funny if it was cancelled, and that one on Yahoo-Japan was the pre-production copy that was used for promotions... and ends up being the only one in collectors hands.
Okay, maybe that wouldn't be funny... buy, you know... :p

Sinnertwin

11th March 2015, 11:42 AM

i wish TT would just come out and give us a yay or nay. On... Off... On... Off...

kurdt_the_goat

11th March 2015, 12:33 PM

Seibertron (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-tomy-transformers-masterpiece-mp23-exhaust-cancellation-rumours-addressed/32401/) reporting BBTS has cancelled orders too.

I don't really want one but could really be little investment if it still comes out in Japan now :p

Krayt

11th March 2015, 02:27 PM

They were talking about BBTS in that they did the original cancellation that hit all US sellers when PM first got involved....

drifand

11th March 2015, 04:08 PM

i wish TT would just come out and give us a yay or nay. On... Off... On... Off...

I agree here, I rather be just told now then just wondering. Heck I transfer my funds to Tracks in my case which I won't mind though I believe Tracks is much pricey.

MayzaPrime

11th March 2015, 04:27 PM

I am still hopeful, I haven't received anything from RK so I am hoping that it wont be cancelled.

koolkollectibleskhai

11th March 2015, 07:26 PM

The latest news is that Hasbro Asia, which distributes in the China, Hong Kong, Singapore region, will not be distributing the figure. That means sellers in those regions may not receive stock, and may not be able to fulfill preorders.

So the only way to get MP-23 Exhaust may well end up being direct orders out of Japan where there are no apparent distribution issues.

Ode to a Grasshopper

11th March 2015, 09:43 PM

i wish TT would just come out and give us a yay or nay. On... Off... On... Off...To be fair, TT themselves haven't said anything...it's all been the (US) fansites who have been doing the 'OMG Cancelled!' routine.
I don't really want one but could really be little investment if it still comes out in Japan now :pYeah, I'm going to pick up one or 2 extras when it comes out. Shame my current job prohibits income on the side...:(

Coincidentally, if anyone wants to trade the Immobilizer accessory (EDIT - and/or the coin) for the probable Reprolabels set if/when it comes out, let me know. I mostly want this because 1) I try and avoid multiples of the same character and/or mold (with a few exceptions) and I'm still happy with CHUG Wheeljack, and 2) the idea of a cigarette-advertising-themed modern Transformer is sort of amusing for its political incorrect-ness. If Reprolabels skips on this one, there's a few other things I'd be willing to trade it for instead.

spiderken17

11th March 2015, 09:46 PM

Where is it still available? most places have sold out or cancelled.

Tober

11th March 2015, 09:59 PM

Just got this email from Robot Kingdom -

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Dear customer,

Thank you for your purchase on Robotkingdom.

Regarding the item �Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Decepticon Exhaust�
We have received official announcement from Hong Kong distributor that the Asia Exclusive MP-23 Coin will be cancelled.

Robotkingdom will still honour your order, however, exclusive coin will not be available.

You can choose to keep the order or store credit for the item.

Option 1: Keep order
Option 2: Refund order for store credit.

Please reply to confirm your decision.

We will start shipping all MP-23 preorders in late March.

We sincerely apologize for your inconvenient.

Best Regards,
Robotkingdom Crew
www.robotkingdom.com

griffin

11th March 2015, 10:10 PM

So the toy is NOT cancelled in HK, but the coin is.

I guess their MP-23 coin was in a flip-top pack that resembled a pack of cigarettes... :p

koolkollectibleskhai

11th March 2015, 10:23 PM

Of course I decided to keep my order!!! Hopefully I can pick up the coin off ebay if they somehow "disappear" from whatever warehouse is storing them now :)

MayzaPrime

11th March 2015, 10:26 PM

I got the same email... nearly threw the phone until I read that it was the coin that was cancelled:p

Tetsuwan Convoy

11th March 2015, 10:53 PM

So the toy is NOT cancelled in HK, but the coin is.

I guess their MP-23 coin was in a flip-top pack that resembled a pack of cigarettes... :p
I would want that SOOOO MUCH

drifand

11th March 2015, 11:00 PM

The coin probably had something to do with smoking not the package

Shouldn't rk credit for no coin?

Sinnertwin

11th March 2015, 11:54 PM

I would want that SOOOO MUCH

ditto! :D

Krayt

12th March 2015, 06:54 AM

Um.... I didn't get the email.....

Anyway, I was going to say that RK just answered a question on their FB page about exhaust, saying preorders are ok, but they stopped taking new orders.... I was already hinking this, moreso now with the lack of coin, I support the idea that they are using other sources (tak in jap not hasbro in hk) to fulfill their preorders

Krayt

12th March 2015, 06:52 PM

So RK will have their release delayed....

As MP-24 is included in your order XXXXXXXXX
Your order will ship both MP-23, 24 together.

But I don't know the exact instock date of MP-23.
It should instock in late March, so may be little delay for your shippment.

Best Regards,
Alice
www.robotkingdom.com

I've gotta stop ordering my MP's with other things!

liegeprime

13th March 2015, 12:31 AM

I got the same email... nearly threw the phone until I read that it was the coin that was cancelled:p

NOOOOOOO, I want my coin!!! :eek::(:(:(

drifand

13th March 2015, 10:28 AM

make your own coin probably:)

MayzaPrime

14th March 2015, 02:22 PM

NOOOOOOO, I want my coin!!! :eek::(:(:(

I am happy that we are getting something... :D

drifand

14th March 2015, 03:08 PM

I am happy that we are getting something... :D

Yup glad I didn't bother with coins.

VGMStudios

14th March 2015, 08:30 PM

Where is it still available? most places have sold out or cancelled.

I would love to buy a case of these guys but can't find anywhere whose is selling them either.

Trent

14th March 2015, 08:35 PM

I would love to buy a case of these guys but can't find anywhere whose is selling them either.

It would be quite the investment. I can't see these getting a reissue.

spiderken17

15th March 2015, 10:18 PM

Where is it still available? most places have sold out or cancelled.

I would love to buy a case of these guys but can't find anywhere whose is selling them either.

I don't want one, as the character has no meaning to me I was just curious as to which of the retailers are still selling them and which ones have pulled out. It seems some people want one now that there is a such a big fiasco about it.

griffin

16th March 2015, 12:40 AM

I'm surprised that it is harder to find them now, as there should be a lot more stock now left in Japan that would have been released in Asian countries or sold on to American sources.

Sinnertwin

16th March 2015, 09:54 AM

LoL Firstworlders at their very best

-Here's a shiny new toy
Nah, don't want it, looks crap
-Sorry, you can't have it now.
WTF! I WANT IT NAAAOOOWWW! :mad::mad::mad:

spiderken17

16th March 2015, 10:23 AM

LoL Firstworlders at their very best

-Here's a shiny new toy
Nah, don't want it, looks crap
-Sorry, you can't have it now.
WTF! I WANT IT NAAAOOOWWW! :mad::mad::mad:

Exactly :D

drifand

16th March 2015, 11:19 AM

On the note, I order two before all the crap hit the fan. I am disappointed that it is no longer the original design, but its still a workable compromised.

Wonder how high will this piece go. I should keep them MISB for investment....yeah right.

UltraMarginal

16th March 2015, 01:30 PM

I've had this guy pre-ordered for ages. At the time of initial pre-order I was still sitting on the fence and even now I am but the thought that it will be relatively rare for an MP based on distribution does make him more desirable to me.

I might have Firstworlditis

rodent

16th March 2015, 02:05 PM

Hey Sin did you end up preordering this guy?

VGMStudios

16th March 2015, 03:22 PM

It would be quite the investment. I can't see these getting a reissue.

Exactly what I was thinking. Buy a case and sell them to the Americans for a higher value. Profit! Haha.

Omega Metro

16th March 2015, 03:37 PM

I'm just waiting for the KO version.

drifand

16th March 2015, 04:08 PM

I'm just waiting for the KO version.

If the KO version is a $100?:rolleyes:

kjavis

17th March 2015, 08:42 AM

looks great cant wait!

Krayt

19th March 2015, 11:11 AM

hmmm.....

Exhaust has vanished from RK website

SkyWarp91

19th March 2015, 11:33 AM

hmmm.....

Exhaust has vanished from RK website

I think they cancelled the preorder with the collectors coin because I got an email from them saying they should still be getting just the figure. Did you preorder from RK as well?

Krayt

19th March 2015, 11:57 AM

Yeah, but the product page still existed, but was marked "sold out"

Now the page is completely gone. I was goig to see if the shipping date was updated yet (mines bundled with Star Saber)

nsm034

19th March 2015, 10:15 PM

ooh ooh hobbylink says in stock on my order page and star sabre

griffin

19th March 2015, 11:15 PM

ooh ooh hobbylink says in stock on my order page and star sabre

I had a look, and since this was the first time I am using HLJ for a pre-order, I panicked when I saw no orders on my orders page, but then saw it had an order waiting for processing to the private warehouse.

I've just changed it to ship when available, so hopefully that sends them both together straight away.

Tober

20th March 2015, 12:59 AM

I had a look, and since this was the first time I am using HLJ for a pre-order, I panicked when I saw no orders on my orders page, but then saw it had an order waiting for processing to the private warehouse.

I've just changed it to ship when available, so hopefully that sends them both together straight away.

"Both"? If you ordered Exhaust with Star Saber they risk being sent separately as opposed to saving a fair bit by combining them through the Private Warehouse feature.

SkyWarp91

20th March 2015, 01:29 AM

Yeah, but the product page still existed, but was marked "sold out"

Now the page is completely gone. I was goig to see if the shipping date was updated yet (mines bundled with Star Saber)

My pre-orders page still has the item listed (even though the one listed is the cancelled version that comes with the collector's coin) - because I told RK through email that I'd like them to honor the order they're still trying to sort how to get this item to customers. Give it a bit of a wait and see what happens- if not contact them.

Krayt

20th March 2015, 08:38 AM

My pre-orders page still has the item listed (even though the one listed is the cancelled version that comes with the collector's coin) - because I told RK through email that I'd like them to honor the order they're still trying to sort how to get this item to customers. Give it a bit of a wait and see what happens- if not contact them.

It's all good, I'm not worried about not getting it, just pointing out the page was gone. RK are great at keeping pages updated with release date info, which is what I was looking for, but without a page there is nowhere to put the info

Ode to a Grasshopper

20th March 2015, 08:57 AM

Got my payment request for Exhaust and Star Saber today.

He's definitely not cancelled. :)

Hursticon

20th March 2015, 11:34 AM

Got my payment request for Exhaust and Star Saber today.

He's definitely not cancelled. :)

Ditto dude! :D

I received my HLJ Payment Request at 7:45am for both MPs Exhaust and Star Saber, I couldn't possibly get my payment off any quicker! ;):)

All up, with EMS Shipping, $260 is pretty damn reasonable, given the present PayPal exchange rate, I think and the knowledge that the pair will likely be here by Wednesday next week has me very excited indeed. :D

Zippo

20th March 2015, 05:25 PM

Got my payments processed (along with Japanese TAV figures)
What an expensive morning it was

DELTAprime

20th March 2015, 07:40 PM

I forgot to set Starsaber and Exhaust to Private Warehouse so they are on the way, but the rest of my stuff for today isn't. Oddly enough not everything has been fulfilled yet, I'm waiting on my Q Transformers. I hope HLJ hasn't taken more orders than they have stock again.

theshape

20th March 2015, 08:21 PM

Both my exhaust and Star Saber have been shipped from NY :D. Exhaust is going to be scarce if it goes the way its looking

nsm034

20th March 2015, 11:48 PM

mp 23 turns up on ebay for $200 in 3, 2, 1

nsm034

21st March 2015, 12:08 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Takara-Tomy-Transformers-Masterpiece-MP-23-Exhaust-Lancia-Stratos-Action-Figure-/291410093035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d96523eb

i was close , lol

griffin

21st March 2015, 12:24 AM

Twenty of them for sale... he certainly bought as many as he could when the writing was on the wall about this one being prohibited in certain countries.

At 7000yen, that's about US$58... and he's selling them for US$150 plus postage. It would be a shame if he bought them from a JP source before 19 other people could get them before they were sold out everywhere, but I guess that's what scalpers do. :(

griffin

21st March 2015, 05:35 AM

It turned out quite nice (https://twitter.com/Alfes2010/status/578828668350267393), in my opinion. The colours are so striking... I can't wait for it to arrive.

dirge

21st March 2015, 06:00 AM

HLJ have shipped mine (well, I ordered two, so also Gok's). I'm keen for that smooth good taste & rich tobacco flavor..

Tober

21st March 2015, 08:25 AM

A post from some guy on TFW2005 advertising custom sticker sets for that smoother looking exhaust.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1000681-takara-mp-23-exhaust-post12340547.html

Self cut - hehehe...

drifand

21st March 2015, 09:23 AM

ampoldj

21st March 2015, 11:54 AM

To make it official Takara Tomy has Added MP23 to their MP page :D

http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/lineup/detail/tf-mp816935.html

Krayt

23rd March 2015, 10:44 PM

RK is shipping in April.... Sigh...

griffin

2nd April 2015, 03:15 PM

If anyone is still looking for Exhaust, the people at Ehobbybaseshop have it in stock, but are not listing it publicly on their site at this time. (I was asking about something else, and they offered Exhaust to me... which I should already have coming from HLJ.)

It's not cheap, especially with the exchange rate, but if you are desperate, weigh it up with any other options that you can find, and choose accordingly. (I am not endorsing them on this item - I am just passing on "secret" info because there was still some interest in this toy here, and it if they are currently the cheapest option, at least they go to Australians.)
Their price is US$80, plus shipping... which on its own would be US$29 for Airmail or US$32 for EMS. (according to them in the email)
If you want one, go to their product page and send an enquiry (http://www.ehobbybaseshop.com/index.php?p=6&lang=en&id=1075), or email them from their main page and include your Paypal details if you don't already have an account on their site... and say that you saw it mentioned here.

SuspectimusPrime

2nd April 2015, 03:39 PM

griffin

2nd April 2015, 03:49 PM

They shouldn't be worried, as it wasn't banned in Hong Kong, otherwise Hasbro HK wouldn't have sold it. But it is strange that they are avoiding any possible issues by not listing them publicly. Even RK took down their page instead of just leaving it as "sold out"... so there might be a little paranoia from the dealers after the problems with America and England.

SkyWarp91

2nd April 2015, 06:30 PM

Has anyone who bought Exhaust off RobotKingdom know if it's been shipped from them yet?

MayzaPrime

2nd April 2015, 06:35 PM

Has anyone who bought Exhaust off RobotKingdom know if it's been shipped from them yet?

I sent them an email last week, they said it will be shipped early April, so anytime soon :D

SkyWarp91

2nd April 2015, 06:36 PM

I sent them an email last week, they said it will be shipped early April, so anytime soon :D

Thanks I was starting to get worried there for a bit because I didn't hear anything from them since pre-ordering at the start of the year.

MayzaPrime

2nd April 2015, 06:38 PM

Thanks I was starting to get worried there for a bit because I didn't hear anything from them since pre-ordering at the start of the year.

Did you get the email saying that the coin is no longer available with Exhaust? They asked if you still want to continue with the order of Exhaust...

SkyWarp91

2nd April 2015, 06:39 PM

Did you get the email saying that the coin is no longer available with Exhaust? They asked if you still want to continue with the order of Exhaust...

Yeah I did I got no response from that email. I knew it was coming but I remember the site saying it would ship late March and all the other websites had already started getting their stock.

MayzaPrime

2nd April 2015, 06:42 PM

Yeah I did I got no response from that email. I knew it was coming but I remember the site saying it would ship late March and all the other websites had already started getting their stock.

Yeah I also didn't get anything back :D I emailed them when other places started shipping.

SkyWarp91

2nd April 2015, 06:43 PM

Yeah I also didn't get anything back :D I emailed them when other places started shipping.

Awesome, can't wait to get it. Also getting it with the Combiner Wars Leader Megatrons

MayzaPrime

2nd April 2015, 06:47 PM

Awesome, can't wait to get it. Also getting it with the Combiner Wars Leader Megatrons

Sounds like an awesome haul... Can't wait to see it on the acquisitions thread :D

nsm034

2nd April 2015, 08:09 PM

mine turned up today from hlj aswell as starsaber

Krayt

13th April 2015, 04:03 PM

RK is shipping in April.... Sigh...

WOOHOO!!!!! About time.... SHIPPED!!

Krayt

12th May 2015, 07:01 AM

I don't know if it affects anyone here, but i'm seeing online that TFSource reprinted their supply of Exhaust before sending to customers!

Well try and get a pic online.... But a few are really annoyed about not getting a MISB item

UltraMarginal

12th May 2015, 12:17 PM

Krayt

12th May 2015, 12:27 PM

I'm not quite sure what you mean by reprinted?

Stupid ipad autocorrecting...

rePAINTed

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=26516&pic=MP233.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0&sl=retailer-tfsources-mp-23-exhaust-received-after-market-paint-job-to-allow-for-sale-in-us

Blastwave

12th May 2015, 12:34 PM

Is anyone here planning to re-repaint theirs to its originally intended look?

ampoldj

12th May 2015, 01:01 PM

That doesn't look good :(

UltraMarginal

12th May 2015, 01:03 PM

wow, that's an extreme measure to go to to sell some toys. I suppose it would be OK if they advertised it like that, if not I'd be spewing that they had changed something from what I had paid for.

after reading the note from TF source to their customers, I'd be pretty cut. you then have to weigh up if you're going to keep it or send it back and try to get an unadjusted one from somewhere else at fairly high aftermarket price I'm guessing.
A rough move by TF Source, they obviously put in an order they couldn't cancel and have come up with this as a way to move stock they can't sell with the hope that most customers wont bother returning it for a refund.

SuspectimusPrime

12th May 2015, 01:37 PM

That looks like crap! As a store that exclusive sells to TF collectors, what were they thinking?!

A rough move by TF Source, they obviously put in an order they couldn't cancel and have come up with this as a way to move stock they can't sell with the hope that most customers wont bother returning it for a refund.

100% agree. Just realised the notice was in hard copy form. A bit underhanded for an online company to be communicating a major product change in such a medium.

Trent

12th May 2015, 05:45 PM

Wow. Now I feel validated for never buying from them. The fact that they didn't announce it previously and in the manner they have just shows how shady they are. I'd be pissed.

I bet in ten years this version will be worth more than the original :p

TAAUBlaster

12th May 2015, 05:57 PM

Wow, that is something I would not have expected from TFSource. I've only ordered a few things from them, but never had a problem.

I definitely don't agree with what they've done though. Pulling this out of the blue and with no previous notice is very strange, and not the way they should have handled this.

drifand

12th May 2015, 06:43 PM

you probably better off with a offical KO version.

GoktimusPrime

12th May 2015, 08:22 PM

"Official KO" sounds like an oxymoron. ;)
That does really suck though. Perhaps Hasbro AU might import it here.

Tober

12th May 2015, 08:35 PM

I'd be livid if they did that to my orders. :mad:

Orange-capping Megatron I can understand, but this... :confused:

drifand

12th May 2015, 09:39 PM

"Official KO" sounds like an oxymoron. ;)
That does really suck though. Perhaps Hasbro AU might import it here.

beats me, the new gen wouldn't even know how a Marlboro pack looks like.

Heres the thing though, this is where the KO would make money if they choose to ignore Marlboro

Megatran

12th May 2015, 09:48 PM

Tried looking up MP-23 Exhaust directly on TF Source online site & it doesn't even register. :confused:

CBratron

12th May 2015, 10:09 PM

beats me, the new gen wouldn't even know how a Marlboro pack looks like.

Heres the thing though, this is where the KO would make money if they choose to ignore Marlboro

I'm giggling at the thought of a 'plain packaging' Exhaust.:D

griffin

13th May 2015, 11:17 AM

I get the impression that these TFSource Exhausts were not sent with their packaging or anything with the original image of the toy as it would also be in breach of the conditions.

I'd be livid if they did that to my orders. :mad:

Orange-capping Megatron I can understand, but this... :confused:

At least with the orange-capping, it was told before-hand and people who bought one knew that it was coming that way.... this was just a total surprise by customers, who got a note with the toy that tried to celebrate the success of getting this toy to them. :rolleyes:

I imagine that TFSource had already bought these toys from a supplier and couldn't return them, so only had the choice of destroying them or modify them enough to be allowed to sell them (they probably contacted the cigarette company to get approval). It wouldn't be a situation that I would envy, but that's part of the risk of business - they took the risk of making a profit from a highly sought after toy, and this time it backfired.
But I don't think they would have had that many units, so if they had just asked their customers first if they still wanted it before they shipped them, they would have still sold off the unwanted units by other desperate customers.

It puts a whole new meaning to the disclaimer - product contents and colours may vary. :p

GoktimusPrime

13th May 2015, 11:59 AM

Okay, so all this hassle seems to be happening from US-based online stores, so as non-Americans, why not just (pre)-order from a non-US based online store like HLJ, Amiami, Chimungmung, AnimeExport, RobotKingdom etc.? Also, wouldn't postage from the US to AU be more expensive than from Japan or Hong Kong (which is where those others are located)? I got mine from HLJ with absolutely no probs. <shrugs> :confused:

Would it be possible for people to try to order one from another non-US source and cancel their pre-order from TFSource?

It's pretty ordinary for TFSource to only notify customers about this so long after the toy's release date. :( But perhaps they only more recently discovered that they had to do this in order to legally sell the toy in the USA, and even though they may be selling to overseas customers, I guess if the transaction is technically occuring in the US, then they're bound by US laws.

griffin

13th May 2015, 12:04 PM

People weren't given the chance to cancel their orders at TFSource... the toy showed up at people's houses without warning of the changes.

And if there is anyone outside of America ordering from a US-based source, it's either because they missed out from a cheaper source, or are ordering a number of other items which offsets the extra few US$ on certain toys like this one. Or they prefer to just stick to one or two online stores with their credit card info, and haven't yet been forced to sign up to another source just to get a particular figure.
But I think most of TFSource's customers for JP toys would be Americans who have to pay extra to import anyway.

SuspectimusPrime

13th May 2015, 01:52 PM

At least with the orange-capping, it was told before-hand and people who bought one knew that it was coming that way.... this was just a total surprise by customers, who got a note with the toy that tried to celebrate the success of getting this toy to them. :rolleyes:

I imagine that TFSource had already bought these toys from a supplier and couldn't return them, so only had the choice of destroying them or modify them enough to be allowed to sell them (they probably contacted the cigarette company to get approval).

I wonder if they could have gotten away with applying stickers over the hood instead; just sneakily use the same dodgy stickers used on freebie keychain Rubix cubes that peal off if you look at them ;)

GoktimusPrime

13th May 2015, 10:32 PM

Dddaaaayyyuuummm... that's terrible! :eek: People would certainly be within their consumer rights to demand a refund considering that the product isn't quite as described. Feels quite misleading. :( If they're going to modify a product from its original state, then they really ought to inform customers IMHO.

I just had a quick look at HLJ, Robot Kingdom, Anime Export, and Chimungmung, and Exhaust doesn't even turn up on their web sites! :eek: It looks like they've completely removed this toy from their listings. Amiami (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-007800) still lists it, but as "Order Closed." :( The only place that I can still find Exhaust for sale is Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-4904810816935-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%8 3%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B0%E3%82%BE%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%88/dp/B00NDW5U70), who currently have 18 new for 10980JPY ($115) each, or 1 used for 9600JPY ($100). I know that this option won't be available to most folks since Amazon doesn't ship globally, but there's the link for the few of you who might be able to use their service (i.e. have access to a Japanese postal address). Admittedly I'm not a big online shopper, so perhaps there are other online stores that I haven't checked. :o

Bladestorm

13th May 2015, 10:41 PM

I finally found Exhaust here in HK today over in Mong Kok. The boxes on display are mostly already gone (pre-ordered) but of the ones for sale - he's not cheap at all by HK standards compared to the other MP cars. Also saw one in a display case out of box modified with gundam pens and have to say he doesn't look nice at all so I feel for those who had to endure a modification they didn't get a choice of.

SuspectimusPrime

14th May 2015, 12:38 AM