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Paulbot
3rd September 2014, 10:20 PM
What if...

With the recent reveal of the new Masterpiece Exhaust toy it's time to remember a long lost piece of Transformer history that many new fans might be unaware of.

Back in early 1984 while the Transformers line was being put together as a combination of Microman and Diaclone toys, the executives at Hasbro noted the unexpected success of the Go-Bots toy line launch by Tonka. With a cartoon and comic launch to come, and increasing demand from retailers after their showing at the 1984 Toy Fair, the company looked for ways to quickly get more toys on the shelves.

It was decided that a second set of releases would be rushed into production to follow the launch assortment, ahead of a full 1985 line should the line prove extremely successful. The toys would include additional Diaclone moulds and/or decos that had not yet been used. In an effort to even out the numbers between the good robots and the bad robots, the new figures would also be Decepticons.

Thus the Decepticon Cars line up was born. The Decepticon Cars would give retailers additional toys at the attractive $10 price point. Unlike the bright colours of the Autobots, these Decepticon cars would be primarily darker tones.

As a gimmick, and to acknowledge that all the other Automobiles were the good guys, the new Decepticons were to feature a new heat-based sticker. The sticker would replace the regular insignia and when rubbed would reveal that the car was a Decepticon. (This feature was of course implemented with the Mini-Spy promotion and, later, across the whole line.)


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The infamous rubsign was to be introduced with the Decepticon Cars

Until 2010 the existence of the Decepticon Cars was unknown to the Transformers fandom. It wasn't until in 2010 when materials from a Hasbro Briefing Binder were auctioned off by Ron Friedman (http://boltax.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Charity%20auction) that details of the toys came to light. Further information has been slowly pieced together by dedicated fans since.


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Exhaust is the first of the Decepticon Cars to be released

According to a page in the briefing binder, the Decepticon Cars line up would have been a case assortment of 12, with two each of:

#5771 Barricade – No.19 New Countach Police Car (black and white police car version of Sideswipe/Red Alert)
#5772 Ignition – No.21 Corvette Stingray (red version of Tracks now known as Road Rage)
#5773 Exhaust – No.18 Lancia Stratos Turbo remold (previously best known as the Marlboor Wheeljack)
#5774 Guzzle – No. 2 Onebox Cherry Vanette (black Ironhide)
#5775 Oilchange – No. 7 Fairlady Z (blue Bluestreak)
#5776 Breakdown – No. 8 4WD Wrecker Type (blue version of Hoist)



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What might have been

The listing of the assortment is stamped as “Cancelled and unreleased” in the document. In their place Red Alert, Hoist and Tracks were released in 1985 in their familiar colour schemes, along with Grapple, Inferno, Smokescreen and Skids.

This cancellation may have been quite late, as one of the Decepticon Cars, Ignition, was still included on the 1985 back of box art, seen fighting Grimlock and Jetfire. (Fans had always assumed this was an art mistake.) However no known boxed examples of these characters have been seen.


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Ignition featured on the 1985 box art

To this day, most fans are unaware of the proposed Decepticon Cars assortment. With the release of a Masterpiece Exhaust this should change. It may be in the Masterpiece line that all the Decepticon Cars finally end up on collector's shelves.

Other trivia:

It wasn't until 2007 that the name Barricade was used for a Decepticon police car.
Guzzle was originally a name for Trailbreaker. There is speculation that Trailbreaker and Guzzle's names may have been swapped and Trailbreaker was originally a Decepticon name.
The names Guzzle and Breakdown were of course reused for future toys.
Some Ignition toys were released, as Tracks, in the European market by Milton Bradley.
Some toys of Oilchange may have been released in Bluestreak packaging but this has yet to be confirmed.
In an interview with the AllSpark in 2012, Bob Budiansky recalled preparing bios for the Decepticon Cars but it’s not known if any copies still exist.
It's believed the story of the second season cartoon episode Masquerade was originally intended to be used earlier as a spotlight episode for the Decepticon cars.


Note: The above article is a work of fiction inspired by the Masterpiece Exhaust toy.

5FDP
4th September 2014, 11:00 AM
That was pretty interesting. I just went with the theory that it was Road Rage on the back of the box (even though I don't buy into the whole retcon character thing). Thanks Paul :) Very enlightening.

UltraMarginal
4th September 2014, 11:10 AM
That's a really interesting read Paul, now I want a masterpiece Exhaust. :rolleyes:

Deonasis
4th September 2014, 12:26 PM
An excellent and informative read, thank you!

..but why is this in the Creative thread? It gives me slight concern that this might be fiction. :o

Sky Shadow
4th September 2014, 12:41 PM
That's some amazing stuff, Paulbot, although I feel like this news may be five months and three days too late. :p

Paulbot
4th September 2014, 12:42 PM
This is in the correct section of the board ;) The key words are "what if".

Deonasis
4th September 2014, 01:52 PM
That's some amazing stuff, Paulbot, although I feel like this news may be five months and three days too late. :p

Yes, this piece and that date need a much closer correlation. Sad to see this piece could never have lasted until then.



This is in the correct section of the board ;) The key words are "what if".

BAAHHHHHHHH! :mad:

Excellent writing though, War of the Worlds level suckering :D

Initial_G
4th September 2014, 02:10 PM
wow! thx paulbot, that was very interesting. Esp the bit about Ignition and the box art ... that was so true, exactly what I had thought all this time.

Sky Shadow
4th September 2014, 03:43 PM
Excellent writing though

Yeah, it's genius. They should get Paulbot to write a similar little-known-history page for every issue of the TFCC magazine. "Some toys of Oilchange may have been released in Bluestreak packaging but this has yet to be confirmed" is gold. (Or silver. Or maybe blue.) I also wish they'd kept original Exhaust's apelike proportions for the Masterpiece - his new arms aren't beefy or long enough.

Sinnertwin
4th September 2014, 04:32 PM
'what if' indeed... Maybe then Marlboor Wheeljack wouldn't cost an arm & a leg :p

I really enjoyed reading that. A very well thought out & written piece of work there, Paul. :cool:

lancalot
4th September 2014, 05:55 PM
great stuff ,a very interesting read....love it

MayzaPrime
4th September 2014, 06:16 PM
It is amazing to think 'what if'

Thanks for an interesting thread! :D

nexusnixx
4th September 2014, 08:05 PM
Love this forum due to people like you to dig the information up. Thanx!

Paulbot
4th September 2014, 09:21 PM
Thanks for reading everyone. Some retweets have got this a greater readership than I expected.

Just so everyone's on the same page, this is a work of fiction inspired by the Masterpiece Exhaust toy. It's a history that could have happened in some other reality. That some people believe it to be authentic means I did a good job of blending facts, but it was never intended to be a hoax.

Sam
4th September 2014, 10:13 PM
Haha, very clever and interesting, glad I read the text carefully. :)

UltraMarginal
4th September 2014, 10:48 PM
I read it very late in the evening and you totally sucked me in. well done!:D:o

Bidoofdude
4th September 2014, 11:02 PM
We now require Decepticon car repaints of all the MPs... Pretty cool info, I can forgive it getting its own number a little bit now. At least it makes sense.

Sinnertwin
4th September 2014, 11:15 PM
Thanks for reading everyone. Some retweets have got this a greater readership than I expected.

Just so everyone's on the same page, this is a work of fiction inspired by the Masterpiece Exhaust toy. It's a history that could have happened in some other reality. That some people believe it to be authentic means I did a good job of blending facts, but it was never intended to be a hoax.

i was rereading that & part of me wished that you'd left the words what if out & then sat back & watched the fandom explode :D

Sky Shadow
4th September 2014, 11:30 PM
Just so everyone's on the same page, this is a work of fiction inspired by the Masterpiece Exhaust toy.

I think we all know Paulbot is closer to the truth than he thinks. The old G1 picture, colouring-in and comic books sometimes had characters using abandoned working names and colour schemes. And the Ladybird books are no exception:

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GoktimusPrime
5th September 2014, 07:42 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/vaderimpressive.jpg

Sinnertwin
5th September 2014, 08:04 PM
"Come to where the flavour is" ?!? (o_O)
Bahahahahaha!

Toybox
9th September 2014, 03:45 PM
This is very Cool,
Finding this sort of unreleased stuff is interesting.

The_Damned
9th September 2014, 07:54 PM
nice work paul made me more interested in exhaust (you dont secretly work for hastek do you paul to create more interest in the toy?)

Sky Shadow
13th September 2014, 05:45 PM
It wasn't until in 2010 when materials from a Hasbro Briefing Binder were auctioned off by Ron Friedman (http://boltax.blogspot.com.au/search/label/Charity%20auction) that details of the toys came to light.

On a related note, did anyone download all the content from the Friedman auctions back when Megaupload was still active, and still have the material? My copies are lost on an old computer, I suspect.

Paulbot
14th September 2014, 08:32 PM
On a related note, did anyone download all the content from the Friedman auctions back when Megaupload was still active, and still have the material? My copies are lost on an old computer, I suspect.

Yep I do. Not sure where I'd upload them to though, they are big files.

Sky Shadow
14th September 2014, 10:12 PM
Yep I do. Not sure where I'd upload them to though, they are big files.

Hmm... oh well - at least it's good to know at least one Ozformer still has them. I'm sure it will come up at some point that somebody's put them on a cloud or dropbox or equivalent somewhere interwebby.

Paulbot
14th September 2014, 10:47 PM
Yeah I could Dropbox them. Maybe GoogleDocs. It's 200 MB of PDF on inspection - not too much. I saw another local fan ask the guys behind the blog to repost them (very recently) and expected those guys to do it.

Sky Shadow
15th September 2014, 11:08 PM
I was just thinking that maybe Hauler was meant to be one of the 1984 Decepticon cars. That's why he appeared in episode 1 of the cartoon, albeit accidentally as an Autobot, since road-based Decepticons hadn't yet been introduced as a concept. And he was miscoloured orange rather than green. Maybe Grapple was never even meant to be released, but was just a 1985 retcon to explain this animation error.

(If there's anyone who still doesn't understand this thread... ;))

Paulbot
15th September 2014, 11:47 PM
While researching I, of course, tried to find some evidence that would link Hauler to the Decepticon Cars (plus that rumored(?) early release of Skids) but I couldn't find a connection that had any proof.

Paulbot
12th September 2015, 12:09 AM
According to a page in the briefing binder, the Decepticon Cars line up would have been a case assortment of 12, with two each of:

#5771 Barricade – No.19 New Countach Police Car (black and white police car version of Sideswipe/Red Alert)
#5772 Ignition – No.21 Corvette Stingray (red version of Tracks now known as Road Rage)
#5773 Exhaust – No.18 Lancia Stratos Turbo remold (previously best known as the Marlboor Wheeljack)
#5774 Guzzle – No. 2 Onebox Cherry Vanette (black Ironhide)
#5775 Oilchange – No. 7 Fairlady Z (blue Bluestreak)
#5776 Breakdown – No. 8 4WD Wrecker Type (blue version of Hoist)



https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14940624947_80f1a74899.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oLfBgR)
What might have been


With a couple of spare Decepticon logos, four of these six are in the MP line. Those complaining there's not enough Decepticons - repurpose the extra Autobot ones! :)

Surely Ironhide will get a Black repaint too. Now I just need Trailbreaker/Hoist to appear in the MP line.

Jaxius._
23rd September 2015, 08:52 AM
Quickly repaint all the cars!


#5771 Barricade – No.19 New Countach Police Car (black and white police car version of Sideswipe/Red Alert)
#5772 Ignition – No.21 Corvette Stingray (red version of Tracks now known as Road Rage)
#5773 Exhaust – No.18 Lancia Stratos Turbo remold (previously best known as the Marlboor Wheeljack)
#5774 Guzzle – No. 2 Onebox Cherry Vanette (black Ironhide)
#5775 Oilchange – No. 7 Fairlady Z (blue Bluestreak)
#5776 Breakdown – No. 8 4WD Wrecker Type (blue version of Hoist)

Hoist, ironhide are the only ones yet to have been done

Breakdown- (name change due to stunticon) A Blackmarket dealer dealing in illegal Energon

Guzzle- (new name because of wrecker perhaps) A drunk who is addicted to (above's) Energon. Very rare if he is sober nut when he is he will be smashing autobots.



This should be posted on tfw get more people in the know so to say