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kurdt_the_goat
23rd August 2008, 09:30 PM
Hey guys

While i was in Japan recently i caught a glimpse of Macross toys for the first time. They were set up in a nice diorama - I was really impressed, but upon seeing the size of most of the boxes (and the cost!), I realised it'd have to wait until my next trip before i could get one.

As you might have guessed, i know VERY little about Macross - haven't seen any of the tv shows or movies, and have only just started looking around for the same toys i saw on display. I'm wondering if any of you collect the toys by Yamato &/or Bandai, and if so, could you offer any recommendations (models/sizes/company etc) or just your experience (QC issues?) with them? Are there newer models still coming out by either company?

I think one Macross toy (as a start, at least!) will make a nice addition to my collection, but i want to make an informed decision - so any discussion is appreciated!

MV75
23rd August 2008, 10:24 PM
Well both Soundwarp and I have this one:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-ebay/125178-1-60-yamato-dyrl-vf-1a-hikaru-armored-parts-vf-1-a.html

(Not with the armor kit though, just the first picture). Fully transformable and plenty of diecast. I got mine for a song a few years ago, ($50) totally worth it. I think they are in some insane price range now.

But I think you should really look at the new (old) bandai 25th releases. The basic toy, (vf-1s) is G1 jetfire. :) And is also the original veritech fighter.

http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?MacroType=Toy&searchpage=top_page&Dis=-2&from=detail&Word=macross%20bandai

I want three of those four. The only downside is cost :eek:

kurdt_the_goat
23rd August 2008, 10:55 PM
What's the reason behind your preference for those Bandai reissues? I guess I had assumed the more recent Yamato's would have better engineering & detailing etc... is this not the case?

Tober
24th August 2008, 01:19 AM
I would recommend checking out the new 1/60 Vs 2 (http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00078) Valkyries from Yamato - a serious contender for this year's much glorified "Toy of the Year" title. It's essentially a scaled down and refined version of their 1/48 Valkyrie (http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00018) - which stands about the same heigh as MP-1 Optimus Prime and makes for a good MP Jetfire (imho) and was a previous "Toy of the Year" winner for Yamato.

The Yamato Valks are very complex at times tho, namely the SV-51 (Macross Zero) and YF-21 (Macross Plus) and are also very expensive at about $200.

You could try watching:

Macross Zero (OVA)
Macross: Do You Remember Love (Movie)
Macross Plus (OVA or Movie)
Macross: Frontier (Series - currently ongoing)

if you can - that way you will get a different feel for the different Valks. There is also the origional Super Dimentional Fortress: Macross series as well which was used as the first part of the Robotech trilogy. Macross 7 can be kinda 'challenging' and Macross II is considered 'alternative universe' as it was not created by Shioji Kawamori, who was responsible for the other series.

Bandai are currently making 1/60 (http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN952783) and 1/100 toys for the Frontier series. They are also re-releasing the origional 1/55 series which MV75 linked to.

Be aware that there are 2 versions of Yamato's 1/60 VF-1 line tho. The one MV-75 showed is the first generation from around 2000 - it has more diecast but requires parts detachment to get it to transform, the proportions arn't as accurate as the new new version either. Alot of Macross fans will be clearing out their older generation 1/60 and updating them - just something to be aware of if you see them on eBay etc.

The only Yamato Valks to avoid are the Macross Zero VF-0A and VF-0S. Both initial releases suffered from a serious problem in the sholder/arm area where a bad plastic was used that disintergrated over time. The revised edition of the VF-0S hs been fixed but the VF-0A needs to have replacement parts ordered separately. Which is a great shame as they are amongst my favourite designs.

Soundwarp
24th August 2008, 06:14 AM
I am a fan and like MV75 said i have one. I would have hundreds if it wasn't for my TF want lists!!!!

MV75
24th August 2008, 11:10 AM
What's the reason behind your preference for those Bandai reissues? I guess I had assumed the more recent Yamato's would have better engineering & detailing etc... is this not the case?

Because they are the original (and imo the best design), of the veritech fighter. :)

Plus as I mentioned too, they are also the toy that hasbro used for g1 jetfire.

Plus their playability is awesome. Quick transformation and articulation that was miles ahead of its time.

Sure I still love my yamato, the quality and the accessories such as the missle pods are freaking great, but yea, the one I have requires some dismantling with the transformation and is more of a display piece.

As for the shows, I recommend getting this:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/795997

It has the original saga, southern cross and the invid invasion.

It should contain the episodes listed here:

http://www.tv.com/robotech/show/4919/episode_listings.html?season=1&tag=nav_bar;1

The seasons line up with the series I mentioned above, (1,2,3).

Or as Tober mentioned, if you can find it; Macross: Do You Remember Love (Movie). This is basically a movie version of the original Zentradi/sdf-1 series in the box set I linked.

kurdt_the_goat
24th August 2008, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the info guys! I think those DVD's will have to wait over other toy purchases, tho i'll see if i can't find them through other means!

Tober, regarding the VF-0 design, i'm quite fond of it as well - Is this the one with the fixed shoulder you were referring to? (http://www.amiami.com/shop/ProductInfo/product_id/50562;jsessionid=8FDCBB304BFAD803BFFF7B9BC6CA7BEA)

You mentioned the height of 1/48, how tall/long are the 1/60 VF-1 in battroid/fighter mode?

Noone has really suggested a YF-19, any reason for that?

With the upcoming Bandai ones - how long has it been since Bandai made Valkyries? They certainly look good in the prototype pics - have any comparisons been made quality wise between Yamato & the new Bandai's (will prolly have to wait till they come out!)?

Fungal Infection
24th August 2008, 01:11 PM
I'd back everything Tober has mentioned. In terms of scale, the 1/60 line would be your best best if you intend to get a few valks as Yamato makes everything now in 1/60 scale. I have every VF-1 series in the 1/60 scale from Yamato but since I saw Tober's VF-1 1/60 V2 at the last meet, I'm selling up my 1/60 Yamatos to upgrade to the new series. The 1/48 are very nice but they are out of scale with every other valkyrie Yamato has made not to mention they cost an arm and a leg so unless you have very deep pockets, I'd stick to the new 1/60 series. I have a soft spot for the Bandai 1/55 "chunky monkeys" as well as in terms of durability they will outlast anything Yamato has made. Not very accurate in terms of sculpt, but if you like to play with your toys often, a better bet than the Yamatos. The Yamatos are more collectable display pieces with the occasional play use than actual fully fledged toys.

kurdt_the_goat
24th August 2008, 01:15 PM
By the way, feel free to populate this thread with awesome photos of your toys :)

Fungal Infection
24th August 2008, 01:38 PM
Ask and you will receive:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/The%20Playroom%20V2/Playroom2002.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/The%20Playroom%20V2/Playroom2003.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/The%20Playroom%20V2/Playroom2012.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/The%20Playroom%20V2/Playroom2013.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/The%20Playroom%20V2/Playroom2015.jpg

gamblor916
24th August 2008, 02:09 PM
I would recommend checking out the new 1/60 Vs 2 Valkyries from Yamato

That VF-1S is seriously tempting.

Fungal your collection is so nicely organised and setup.

kurdt_the_goat
24th August 2008, 11:27 PM
Another question, when you put the additional parts on (ie on this one (http://www.amiami.com/shop?vgForm=ProductInfo&sku=TOY-RBT-0342&template=review.html)) what happens to the tail wings? I can't see them in any photos of this model .. but they don't detach do they?

Tober
25th August 2008, 03:05 AM
Thanks for the info guys! I think those DVD's will have to wait over other toy purchases, tho i'll see if i can't find them through other means!



Yeah, try before you buy if you can. Macross is sort of an aquired taste. If you don't like J Pop it can be rather unbearable at times, otherwise I just fast forward. 'M: DYRL?' is probably the most accessable and best part of Macross as there isn't as much singing and it gets violent in that over-the-top Japanime way. Only thing is that it's kinda a spoiler if you ever want to watch 'SDF: Macross' later.



Tober, regarding the VF-0 design, i'm quite fond of it as well - Is this the one with the fixed shoulder you were referring to? (http://www.amiami.com/shop/ProductInfo/product_id/50562;jsessionid=8FDCBB304BFAD803BFFF7B9BC6CA7BEA)


If that's the re-release then it will have fixed sholders. Macrossworld.com is down currently so I can't confirm it has been reissued yet.



You mentioned the height of 1/48, how tall/long are the 1/60 VF-1 in battroid/fighter mode?

It's 21cm tall to the height of the top of its head, 26cm long in fighter mode. Rougly 3/4 the size of MP Starscream who is also about 1/60.



Noone has really suggested a YF-19, any reason for that?


It's not one of my favourite Valks, I'm in a minority there tho. The toy I have is rather loose as well, I don't know if that was rectified in later releases. I also have a 1/100 VB-6 Koenig Monster (http://www.angolz.com/files/images/products/yam00036_d.jpg) (after I saw one at a meet that Lord Zed bough along I finally cracked) which has loose arms also - it was only released once.


With the upcoming Bandai ones - how long has it been since Bandai made Valkyries? They certainly look good in the prototype pics - have any comparisons been made quality wise between Yamato & the new Bandai's (will prolly have to wait till they come out!)?
Bandai haven't really made Valkyries since the late 90s (VFX-2 game). I think that's a VF-17 Nightmare in Fungal's display. I don't think there were any serious problems with any of their releases - they typically lead the way in toy design because of their patented molding technology. The Bandai Evangelion Movie Realisation toy I got last year is outstanding in terms of design and quality. The Aquarion GD-99 (http://hellric.over-blog.com/article-4120647.html) was apparently a masterpiece from Bandai as well as being a 'Toy of the Year' and was designed by Kawamori so he seems to know how to get good results from manufacturers.

There are no realistic comparisons yet. Bandai tend to keep relatively quiet about their releases and keep making changes to their prototypes without updating their retailers. There are now pics ot the new VF-25 1/100 toy:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/VF_25Alto.jpg

The toy is the prototype grey one at bottom right. The colored one is th 1/72 transformable model kit. The 1/100 currently looks to be more proportionally correct than the 1/60 :confused:

This is the upcoming Yamato 1/60 VF-1J:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/macross-vf-1jhikarusuperpack.jpg

and the upcoming Yamato 1/60 2 seater VF-1D:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/med_gallery_4840_96_373985.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/med_gallery_4840_96_722835.jpg http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/med_gallery_4840_96_818260.jpg


Another question, when you put the additional parts on (ie on this one (http://www.amiami.com/shop?vgForm=ProductInfo&sku=TOY-RBT-0342&template=review.html)) what happens to the tail wings? I can't see them in any photos of this model .. but they don't detach do they?

No, they fold underneath. There are other FAST pack variations where they sit on top - the Super Ostrich (http://www.hlj.com/product/YMTMC-18) and the VE-1 Elint Seeker (http://www.hlj.com/product/YMTMC-17). These haven't been released in the new 1/60 line yet tho and I'm really looking forward to them. :D


I would take pics but I don't currently have a digiital camera. My collection is smaller than Fungal's tho. I like the way that the Macross stuff is posed next to speakers and a guitar :p

Soundwarp
25th August 2008, 05:18 AM
Oh so pretty.
I will have to stop looking in here or i will bight into my TF budget!

Vector Sigma 13
25th August 2008, 06:43 AM
I got into Macross by researching Robotech- Only to discover (in my opinion) the Macross universe is far better. Those Valkryies are sweet- always wanted a Scull Leader. Im tempted to start collecting the figures but im trying to stay focused on the Transformers. Trying very hard!

Lord_Zed
25th August 2008, 05:36 PM
I watched Robotech as a kid, then got into Macross later when I discovered anime. I've always been a fan of Valkyries preffering them design wise to even Tf's. Though there's more diversity in Tf's.

I have a few Valkyries, probably a few less than Tober and Fungal. I stopped collecting them for a few years but then started again when I bought the SV 51 in Japan.

I also back everything Tober said. After seeing his new 1-60 VF 1, I ordered one straight away. it finnaly arived a few days ago, and so far its flawless, solid in every mode and looks great to. I'd recommend this Valkyrie as the one to start with, as it has the benefits of the latest in sculpting technology and Yamato's 10 odd years of excperience making Valkyries. Its early days for mine but based on what I've seen looks like a winner. Also the price point is not as heavy as the bigger ones.

I'm thinking I might have to get the VF1 D now to.

If your not in a rush I recommend watching Macross and picking out your favourte Valkyrie and getting that one.

Robzy
25th August 2008, 06:40 PM
What a cool thread!

I've always preferred the Bandai Chunky Monkeys (G1 Jetfire mould), my favourite being the VF-1J head. Bandai are doing some pretty cool things with these in the next year or so. They're releasing the DYLR VF-1As (Hikaru and Max) with Fast Packs soon, followed by the 2 Strike VF-1S figures. :o

But apparently it was announced at SDCC, that they are going to be releasing Bandai 1/55 Veritech Fighters as part of a Commemorative Robotech line in the US in 2009. They are all going to be given new head sculpts too (more anime accurate) - and that includes a brand new Bandai VF-1D sculpted head!

MV75
25th August 2008, 08:37 PM
Havn't they already released the 25th anniversary?

http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?MacroType=Toy&searchpage=top_page&Dis=-2&from=detail&Word=macross%20bandai

kurdt_the_goat
25th August 2008, 09:34 PM
I definitely saw the 2 HLJ is listing as in stock, instore in Japan, in early August. You guys have sold me on the newer VF-1's, now i'm just trying to think of which version i want, and how i can justify it to my wife, more than a year before actually going back to Japan .. lol

Do any of you have a preference with the Super & Strike parts? I prefer the clean look of without, but i don't think i can pass up the detailing on the inside once you remove the covers.

Robzy
25th August 2008, 09:55 PM
Havn't they already released the 25th anniversary?It's started! The Hikaru (VF-1J) & the Roy (VF-1S) are reissues like the 2001 ones (with added heat shield on the 1J). The 2 VF-1As don't appear to be out yet - although listed as arriving in August! It's the first time the DYRL Max has been released in the Bandai 1/55 line. The 2 Strike VF-1S figures from DYRL are also coming!

The Robotech line, however, is an entirely different thing! Apparently it will include:

VF-1S Roy Fokker
VF-1J Rick Hunter
VF-1A Ben
VF-1A Max
VF-1D
VF-1J Max
VF-1J Miriya
VF-1A CF


Do any of you have a preference with the Super & Strike parts? I prefer the clean look of withoutI personally prefer the Super fast packs. The Strike is pretty cool though!

MV75
25th August 2008, 10:10 PM
Ah, so they will have an actual Robotech line then. I think I might wait for those instead then. Do you know if they'll be cheaper than the Origin ones I linked?

This is the only thing I hate about these toys. The lines confuse me too much.

blackie
25th August 2008, 10:56 PM
anyone seen these arround?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Valkyrie-VF-1A-VF-1J-VF-1S-FULL-SET-6-SP-1-144_W0QQitemZ130249735454QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 30249735454&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

do they even transform??

Hereticpoo
25th August 2008, 11:06 PM
These look like the 1/144 Valks by Doyusha. They don't transform, they are mini display pieces.

Reviews of Macross toys here http://www.anymoon.com

and Macross Forums here http://www.macrossworld.com

Check 'em before you buy ANY Valk. ;)



anyone seen these arround?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Valkyrie-VF-1A-VF-1J-VF-1S-FULL-SET-6-SP-1-144_W0QQitemZ130249735454QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 30249735454&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

do they even transform??

MV75
25th August 2008, 11:07 PM
Usually that size are model kits. No, they don't usually transform, some can though, ask the seller.

Robzy
25th August 2008, 11:35 PM
Ah, so they will have an actual Robotech line then. I think I might wait for those instead then. Do you know if they'll be cheaper than the Origin ones I linked?Well, firstly I should say that this Robotech line has only just been announced (not confirmed - it looks like it's going ahead - but I don't know when). So, not many details have been released. I should also point out that "apparently" they are re-sculpting the heads on these things to make them more anime accurate. So, while it means we'd be getting new moulds, it also means that the old heads won't be used. So if you prefer the original VF-1S, VF-1J, or VF-1A heads on the Chunky Monkeys, then you may be disappointed. Having said that, the new moulds look pretty damn sweet - they're just not the original heads (at least, that's what's been announced).

I wouldn't wait for this line to come out. I'd say grab the Macross Origin figures (which you linked to) regardless. They're excellent figures. I'm actually hoping they can come to some agreement to get a G1 Jetfire reissue too! Seems like Bandai are relaxing their stance a lot!


This is the only thing I hate about these toys. The lines confuse me too much.So true! :p There's Macross, then there's DYRL, then Robotech. All different!

kurdt_the_goat
26th August 2008, 12:58 PM
Hey, i'm looking at the upcoming VF-1A (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1201) and VF-1J (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1212), both with Hikaru Ichijo i think (can someone confirm?).

What's the reasoning behind the different colour schemes? Is it just because of the A/J designation, or is the J done in a more anime accurate colours? I'm just wondering cause i heard people calling it a "TV" version?

MV75
26th August 2008, 08:07 PM
Well, firstly I should say that this Robotech line has only just been announced (not confirmed - it looks like it's going ahead - but I don't know when). So, not many details have been released. I should also point out that "apparently" they are re-sculpting the heads on these things to make them more anime accurate. So, while it means we'd be getting new moulds, it also means that the old heads won't be used. So if you prefer the original VF-1S, VF-1J, or VF-1A heads on the Chunky Monkeys, then you may be disappointed. Having said that, the new moulds look pretty damn sweet - they're just not the original heads (at least, that's what's been announced).

I wouldn't wait for this line to come out. I'd say grab the Macross Origin figures (which you linked to) regardless. They're excellent figures. I'm actually hoping they can come to some agreement to get a G1 Jetfire reissue too! Seems like Bandai are relaxing their stance a lot!

So true! :p There's Macross, then there's DYRL, then Robotech. All different!

So Bandai are going to use new moulds on the upcoming robotech line, and not the g1 jetfire mould?

And yea, I'm still waiting for an Encore jetfire. :)

Tober
26th August 2008, 09:25 PM
Hey, i'm looking at the upcoming VF-1A (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1201) and VF-1J (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1212), both with Hikaru Ichijo i think (can someone confirm?).

What's the reasoning behind the different colour schemes? Is it just because of the A/J designation, or is the J done in a more anime accurate colours? I'm just wondering cause i heard people calling it a "TV" version?

Yes, they are both Hikaru's Valkyrie. In "Macross: Do You Remember Love?" h starts off with the 1A and then uses a 1S at the end - both with a red highlight. In the TV series "Super Dimentional Fortress: Macross" he starts off with the 1J with the red stripe across the head.

The VF-1J with the red stripe is seen very briefly in Armor in DYRL? Blink and you miss it tho:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/1J.jpg



And yea, I'm still waiting for an Encore jetfire. :)

As much as I would like to see it too, it's unlikley. Bandai own the rights to the Valkyrie mold and would have to make it available to a primary rival, Tomy. It may also require the consent of Kawamori, but seeing as apparently he has alot of misgivings about Robotech and still has a relationship with Tomy... maybe it is a possibility. :)

Lord_Zed
27th August 2008, 06:48 PM
Hey, i'm looking at the upcoming VF-1A (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1201) and VF-1J (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1212), both with Hikaru Ichijo i think (can someone confirm?).

What's the reasoning behind the different colour schemes? Is it just because of the A/J designation, or is the J done in a more anime accurate colours? I'm just wondering cause i heard people calling it a "TV" version?

What Tober said, one is TV version one is Movie. One is Vermillion Squadron the other Skull Squadron, get the version you like best, ther'e both accurate to the media they are based on.

kurdt_the_goat
27th August 2008, 08:11 PM
Thanks guys. I was just curious really.. there's no doubt in my mind that i prefer the VF-1A's colors!

Tober
31st August 2008, 04:56 PM
Bandai has just announced their Macross VF-100s line. Valkyries in 1/100 scale. It appears that thy have an unbrella license for all of the Macross series (including Macross II: Lovers again). So maybe we could see a VF-2SS.

Many will be happy to see a VF-4 and VF-171...

At that scale they probably won't be perfect transformation tho. :(

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/067.jpg

THE POSSIBILITIES!! :eek:

Fungal Infection
31st August 2008, 06:37 PM
I like the fact that Bandai have an umbrella licence. 1/100 scale should make the line affordable too and the chances of seeing a VF-1, Metal Siren, a VF-2SS and VF-4, all in the same scale makes me drool with anticipation.

Tober
31st August 2008, 08:02 PM
Yep, Metal Siren would be nice too. And the VF-XX and a few enemy mechs :D

Lord_Zed
31st August 2008, 09:34 PM
At that scale they probably won't be perfect transformation tho. :(


THE POSSIBILITIES!! :eek:

If the price is right then that's ok,if not....

Are we sure these are toys and not models though?

But I could sure as hell go for a VF171 or VF27. Though I'd prefer the VF 27 in the 1/60 scale.

I'm not a fan of the Metal Siren myself but I'd like to see the VF 4 or the Vampire though.

Tober
31st August 2008, 09:47 PM
If the price is right then that's ok,if not....

Are we sure these are toys and not models though?


They are apparently around the $45 range (roughly double the price of their 1/100 models). The 1/100 VF-25 toy was on display in the same area and the model kit is 1/72, so at this stage it's a safe assumption that it is a new toy line and not a re-release of their 10 to 15 year old 1/100 kits.

Tober
31st August 2008, 09:52 PM
Upcoming release dates of Yamato 1/60 Valkyries and Destroids:

The Hikaru 1S is on the way.

Sep - 1/60 Destroid Tomahawk
Oct - 1/60 VF-J Hikaru with fast pack.
Nov - 1/60 VF-1J Hikaru without fast pack
Dec - 1/60 VF-1S DYRL Hikaru with fast pack
Dec - 1/60 Destroid Defender
Jan - 1/60 VF-1S DYRL Hikaru without fast pack
Jan - 1/60 VF-1D

Lord_Zed
31st August 2008, 10:13 PM
Agh,

Must resist all till the VF 1D so i can get a VF 25! Although the Tomahawk is seriously tempting.

Any reason why all the 1/60 Valks planned so far are all ones Hikaru has piloted? Should this maybe be the 1/60 Hikaru line?

kurdt_the_goat
31st August 2008, 10:17 PM
Well, earlier this week i took the plunge on the 1/60 VF-1A with super and strike parts. I'm too stingy to ship it over here tho, so it went to my inlaws in Japan, hence i have quite a wait ahead of me before i get it. I'm sure it'll be worth it though!

In my short time looking at these Yamato toys, it's quite surprising to me how similar the variations are, given the high price point. I don't know why people can't just settle for 1 or 2 of each type.. but each to his own I guess. I'm not too big on repaints & slight retools when it comes to TF's either.

When all's said and done then, the next one i'll be keeping an eye out for is the 1/60 Bandai VF-25 (Alto version.. colours reminds me of the Celica from Sega Rally!)

Lord_Zed
31st August 2008, 10:41 PM
Well, earlier this week i took the plunge on the 1/60 VF-1A with super and strike parts. I'm too stingy to ship it over here tho, so it went to my inlaws in Japan, hence i have quite a wait ahead of me before i get it. I'm sure it'll be worth it though!

In my short time looking at these Yamato toys, it's quite surprising to me how similar the variations are, given the high price point. I don't know why people can't just settle for 1 or 2 of each type.. but each to his own I guess. I'm not too big on repaints & slight retools when it comes to TF's either.

When all's said and done then, the next one i'll be keeping an eye out for is the 1/60 Bandai VF-25 (Alto version.. colours reminds me of the Celica from Sega Rally!)

Awesome my new 1/60 is so cool so I don't think you'll be dissapointed.

Regarding the simmilarity of the VF1's, its like TF fans and the Seekers, Aside from the camo varriants each Valkyrie belongs to a different character in the show, and people want to get the whole squadron, cause again like the seekers they look really good all together. But this is one of the peculiar things about us collectors.

That said, myself I have 4 transfroming VF1's now the old 1/60 VF 1J and 2 other old VF1's I picked up cause they were on sale, plus the new VF 1S that leaves them all for dead. I'd love to get the new VF1J but will wait till they make it in the blue Max Jenius colours.

While i admit the VF 1D is not much different from the rest of VF1's I will probably get it for its memorable contribution to the Macross series, and also cause it'll be the only Valkyrie I have with Mimei in the cockpit. :D

Tober
1st September 2008, 07:18 AM
Any reason why all the 1/60 Valks planned so far are all ones Hikaru has piloted? Should this maybe be the 1/60 Hikaru line?

I harn't really noticed that actually :p I guess it's because he's the lead character and sells the best besides Roy.

Lord_Zed
1st September 2008, 12:00 PM
I harn't really noticed that actually :p I guess it's because he's the lead character and sells the best besides Roy.

And you can put Hikaru pilot figure from VF1J in the VF1s cockpit and make it TV Hikaru VF1S, so there ALL Hikaru!!!

kurdt_the_goat
5th September 2008, 04:07 PM
Change of topic slightly, has anyone had experience with the transformable model kits they sell? The detailing seems to be quite nice, and the price a lot cheaper than the toys - i imagine they're flimsier.. but are they worth it?

This new VF-25F looks nice is all (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001DIMOWA?tag=asedaruma-22&camp=243&creative=1615&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B001DIMOWA&adid=1JDP3FWHA290898GW64Z&) :)

gamblor916
5th September 2008, 04:39 PM
Well they're kits you have to glue and paint together. I prefer those to the toys because all they're going to do is sit on my shelf. The Hasegawa kits are superb (I'm building a VF-1 at the moment) but a little bit fiddly.
I'll probably pick up the VF-25 later too.

kurdt_the_goat
5th September 2008, 04:46 PM
Is the glueing and painting necessary or does that vary between kits?

MV75
5th September 2008, 04:55 PM
Upcoming release dates of Yamato 1/60 Valkyries and Destroids:

The Hikaru 1S is on the way.

Sep - 1/60 Destroid Tomahawk
Oct - 1/60 VF-J Hikaru with fast pack.
Nov - 1/60 VF-1J Hikaru without fast pack
Dec - 1/60 VF-1S DYRL Hikaru with fast pack
Dec - 1/60 Destroid Defender
Jan - 1/60 VF-1S DYRL Hikaru without fast pack
Jan - 1/60 VF-1D

Any pics on those so I know what all the differences with the heads are? And what mechs are those destroids? Warhammers/riflemen?

kurdt_the_goat
5th September 2008, 05:00 PM
I'm not sure where the Destroid Tomahawk comes from either, but here's a link to the Yamato site (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1184). He certainly seems well-armed!

I think both of those Hikaru VF-1S releases will have the same head, and that is to say, the same as the Focker VF-1S? As seen here (http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/60vf1s/02.html) Someone please correct me if i'm wrong!

edit: not sure if i misunderstood your question
VF-1S = 4 antennas
VF-1J, VF-1D = 2 antennas
VF -1A = 1 antenna

Hereticpoo
5th September 2008, 05:09 PM
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I'm not sure where the Destroid Tomahawk comes from either, but here's a link to the Yamato site (http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1184). He certainly seems well-armed!

I think both of those Hikaru VF-1S releases will have the same head, and that is to say, the same as the Focker VF-1S? As seen here (http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/60vf1s/02.html) Someone please correct me if i'm wrong!

You are correct. Here's a quick guide to VF-1 Valks.

1A = 1 head laser, J = 2 head lasers, S = 4 head lasers.

According to Macross lore the differences represent levels of improvement as far as the airframe is concerned. Also the 'newer' variants are usually for commanders/veterans with the 1A being the earliest and most common 'cannon fodder' type. Much the same as a Modern Airforce I suppose... :)

MV75
5th September 2008, 05:13 PM
Oh yea, it's a warhammer. :) Sweet. :) So what does the defender look like? Is it similar to this (rifleman):

http://www.geocities.com/amaclub/arii01-lc.html

And in that 2nd link, is that what the coming 1/60's look like?

gamblor916
5th September 2008, 05:18 PM
Is the glueing and painting necessary or does that vary between kits?


Yep it's necessary, it's mostly all gray or white plastic.

kurdt_the_goat
5th September 2008, 05:31 PM
I think this is a prototype of the Destroid Defender
http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=57007

Yep, that is the new VF-1.. as well as here (http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/60vf1s/01.html), here (http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/60vf1a/01.html) and here (http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/60vf1a/02.html)! If you can't tell, i've been drooling over these shots for a while now :)

What kind of paints would you use gamblor? I'm clearly a novice at this, have never done any model painting... but i've developed an interest in pursuing Gundam model building as well. Are the materials easily available in Australia? Boy it was depressing seeing wall-to-wall Gundams and craft materials in Japan only to come back to a dearth of it in Perth.

gamblor916
5th September 2008, 06:00 PM
I just got a bunch of Gunze Mr Color lacquers from Rainbow10 (http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/). You can brush paint them but I usually shoot it with an airbrush. There's lots of info in model building forums (spc.org.uk, automotiveforums etc.)

Man I would have loved to wander around in some Japanese hobby stores.

Lord_Zed
5th September 2008, 09:53 PM
Change of topic slightly, has anyone had experience with the transformable model kits they sell? The detailing seems to be quite nice, and the price a lot cheaper than the toys - i imagine they're flimsier.. but are they worth it?

This new VF-25F looks nice is all (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001DIMOWA?tag=asedaruma-22&camp=243&creative=1615&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B001DIMOWA&adid=1JDP3FWHA290898GW64Z&) :)

Well I had the old VF 1 model kit, as well as VF 19 excalibur, both Kits are over 10years old now so they've probably improved since then. The kits were decent they looked good in most modes.
While they are cheaper and they often look better than thier toy equivelants there are three things you have to remmember when comparing them to a toy:

1. They tend to be more fragile than the toys, (in the case of the VF1 way more fragile) There built for looks not for transforming or flying around the house.

2. You often have to remove and re-atach parts or even use replacment parts when transforming them. I have no idea if the new VF 25 kit uses replacment parts but it has been a feature of all previous Bandai kits so It would not supprise me.

3. It's do it yourself, you have to remove the pieces from the sprue and build them, then paint on the details. Given the latest Bandai gundam kits I doubt glue will be required. And I just used standard hobby acrylics for my old models.


Man I would have loved to wander around in some Japanese hobby stores

Oh yeah! Japanese hobby stores rock, the average 4-6 stories of hobby goods that I saw in japan sure make Hobbyco look small.

Tober
6th September 2008, 12:36 AM
You often have to remove and re-atach parts or even use replacment parts when transforming them. I have no idea if the new VF 25 kit uses replacment parts but it has been a feature of all previous Bandai kits so It would not supprise me.

The landing gear is removable, but not retractable. Transformation is 'perfect' (if you ignore the landing gear).

Saintly
17th September 2008, 09:27 AM
Bandai 1/55 "chunky monkeys" as well as in terms of durability they will outlast anything Yamato has made. Not very accurate in terms of sculpt, but if you like to play with your toys often, a better bet than the Yamatos. The Yamatos are more collectable display pieces with the occasional play use than actual fully fledged toys.

I just noticed them at HLJ (I don't visit very often) the Bandai 1/55 VF-1

To recap... Bandai (I'm referring to the Origins of Valkyrie) version is for playing, Yamato v2 is for display?

Also I supposed the Bandai ones are slightly bigger?

Does anyone have any preferences over one or the other?

kurdt_the_goat
17th September 2008, 12:10 PM
Here's a great comparison pic posted on Macross World forums:
http://anymoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/Super%20Fighter%20Comparison.jpg

The old bandai's look about the same size to me as the new yamato's despite being in a larger scale.

Does anyone have any recommendations for stands? I do like the idea of getting the Yamato official one, but for the price.. i was thinking of getting the FlexiDisplay (http://www.laftoys.com/index.php?cPath=15&osCsid=1636250d38e729982e5be061c851a8ff), which seems to have positive reviews all over and is much cheaper.

Tober
17th September 2008, 12:25 PM
I just noticed them at HLJ (I don't visit very often) the Bandai 1/55 VF-1

To recap... Bandai version is for playing, Yamato v2 is for display?

Also I supposed the Bandai ones are slightly bigger?

Does anyone have any preferences over one or the other?

Bandai's are built very solid, the canopy is the only vunerable spot. The new Yamato is durable too tho but not sure I would recommend it for kids as it is much more complex and fiddly, the sholder pins are the only real weak point and you would have to be sorta careless to break it. No problems with the Roy VF-1S so far.

They are about the same size. I don't have a Jetfire to compare curretly.

I prefer the Yamato v2 but nostalgic Macross and TF collectors might want the Bandai.

I still prefer the 1/48 overall tho but it is not in scale with Yamato's other releases and is still much more expensive, the 1/60 v2 is essentially a scaled down and refined 1/48.



Does anyone have any recommendations for stands? I do like the idea of getting the Yamato official one, but for the price.. i was thinking of getting the FlexiDisplay (http://www.laftoys.com/index.php?cPath=15&osCsid=1636250d38e729982e5be061c851a8ff), which seems to have positive reviews all over and is much cheaper.

That's the one I use. It looks fragile but it is very stable. I'm holding off ordering any more untill they release the v.2 edition.

Hereticpoo
17th September 2008, 01:27 PM
http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/toys/VF-1-160-Review/VF-1S_review.html

VF1S 1/60 v 2.0 review (pic heavy)

Chunky Monkeys are great for the nostaligic, but the Yamato's are so much nicer for the adult collector. If you buy the chunky you'll always want a Yamato, so start with the Yamato and save! :D

Lord_Zed
17th September 2008, 06:39 PM
The new Yamato 1/60 to date feels very much like the evolution of the VF1 Valkyrie as a collectors toy, the Chunky seems an ancient ancestor in comparisson. Though i'f you've ever played with jet fire you'd know how sturdy and tough that mould is.

The new 1/60 seems sufficently strong for the adult collector, you can fly it round the room and do barrel rolls and parts wont fall off, or flip out of place.

My only complaint about the new 1/60 is it makes me want to collect a whole squadron.

Tober
7th November 2008, 01:33 PM
Yamato 1/60 VF-11B

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Picture_3.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Picture_4.jpg

Hereticpoo
7th November 2008, 01:47 PM
Is that VF-11 a new version? Along the lines of the new 2.0 1/60's?

Also in 2009 Bandai are releasing this bang for your buck beauty; VF-25 1/100.

http://www.toyslogic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6147

Lord_Zed
7th November 2008, 09:22 PM
The VF 11 looks pretty awesome, alas at the current exchange rate I doubt I will be getting one.


Is that VF-11 a new version? Along the lines of the new 2.0 1/60's?

Also in 2009 Bandai are releasing this bang for your buck beauty; VF-25 1/100.

http://www.toyslogic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6147

That would be the partsformer I'd guess. If its not many bucks then maybe the bang would satisfy me. though I'd probably rather go with the 1/60 Bandai. Flawed as it is, it's not quite as pricey as the VF 11, and not quite as partsy as the 1/100.

I can't wait till they start making never before seen Valkyries in the 1/100 line though.

Tober
8th November 2008, 08:04 AM
The11B looks kinda squashed in fighter mode, by comparison to the YF-19 and YF-21 at least. The small tail fins don't worry me that much tho.




I can't wait till they start making never before seen Valkyries in the 1/100 line though.

Yeah. I really don't like the placement of the hips on the 1/100 VF-25 but the rest is ok with me, although I don't like parts swapping either :(. The other releases in the new 1/100 line will determine if I go back to grab the 25 as there are some great possibilities there (as long as they don't just rehash their Macross kits). Also curious to see how they compare with Toynami's "Masterpiece" line.

Hereticpoo
11th November 2008, 11:02 AM
The11B looks kinda squashed in fighter mode, by comparison to the YF-19 and YF-21 at least. The small tail fins don't worry me that much tho.



Yeah. I really don't like the placement of the hips on the 1/100 VF-25 but the rest is ok with me, although I don't like parts swapping either :(. The other releases in the new 1/100 line will determine if I go back to grab the 25 as there are some great possibilities there (as long as they don't just rehash their Macross kits). Also curious to see how they compare with Toynami's "Masterpiece" line.

Mmm now that you mention it a comparison to Toynami's line sounds like a good idea.

The VF-25 1/100 will retail for 4800 JPY, while the 1/60 version (which is almost identical, including the garish hips) is 12000 JPY. I think its pretty good value. Also consider that the 1/100 line will be covering a valk from every Macross series or Feature. There's potential here, especially for scale minded collectors. I do agree that the part swapping is a little scary, the amount of times I've frantically started Search and Recue missions for Revoltech hands and Weapons is crazy!

Tober
11th November 2008, 11:04 PM
The Bandais seem like good value compared to the Yamatos and Toynami, who's first batches of Masterpieces were riddled with bad quality issues, I assume they have been fixed since tho.

Toynami have previewed Battle Pods too - there arn't alot of enemy mecha toys out there :(

Lord_Zed
12th November 2008, 08:18 PM
As it is at the moment 4800 JPY is still pretty pricey for collectiong a whole set, ok for a one of though, but with so many funky Macross products being announced recently it's hard to find the resources to collect a whole set of anything. For me I'd rather have a sampler of everything than a whole set.

It'll be interesting to see how Bandai's toys compare with the competition, while I can't say I've been to unlucky with my Yamoto and Toynami toys, a few of them do have minor quibbles. I'm hoping bandai will release something with solid QC, but we'll see.

gamblor916
12th November 2008, 08:37 PM
Is anyone considering the new Bandai 1/72 VF-25 kits. From the reviews I've read they're nicely engineered but a pain to paint and put together. I'd prefer something without the transform gimmick but this is the only game in town at the moment for the VF-25.

Hereticpoo
18th December 2008, 03:19 PM
HLJ is Having a MACROSS CLEARANCE SALE! I scored a 1/48 Angel Bird for 5300 Yen! Thats $90.00! (or $53 3 months ago :mad:) The new 1/60 2.0's are on sale too. :)

Fungal Infection
18th December 2008, 04:00 PM
Christ, the 1/60 YF-21 is $350 plus shipping!!! Goddamn the shitty exchange rate!! :mad: I so regret not buying it now when the dollar was at 93c!! :mad:

Hereticpoo
18th December 2008, 04:40 PM
Christ, the 1/60 YF-21 is $350 plus shipping!!! Goddamn the shitty exchange rate!! :mad: I so regret not buying it now when the dollar was at 93c!! :mad:

Ouch! Yeah I should've mentioned that only a few items are on sale. But some the deals they do have are pretty good. Especially if your on the fence about some of the sale items. :)

Tober
23rd February 2009, 10:30 PM
Just when you thought it was safe...

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Yamato 1/60 VT-1 Super Ostrich

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_hpqscan0001ost.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=hpqscan0001ost.jpg)



Yamato 1/2000 SDF-1 Macross from 'Macross: Do You REmember Love?' :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_18760.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_18760.jpg)



Bandai 1/100s line line-up (unconfirmed) :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_87573.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_87573.jpg)



Bandai 1/100 VF-25s and VF-19

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_78044.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_78044.jpg)



Bandai Macross Frontier Macross Quarter prototype

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_420340.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=420340.jpg)

Vector Sigma 13
26th February 2009, 08:17 PM
Just when you thought it was safe...

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Yamato 1/60 VT-1 Super Ostrich

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_hpqscan0001ost.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=hpqscan0001ost.jpg)



Yamato 1/2000 SDF-1 Macross from 'Macross: Do You REmember Love?' :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_18760.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_18760.jpg)



Bandai 1/100s line line-up (unconfirmed) :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_87573.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_87573.jpg)



Bandai 1/100 VF-25s and VF-19

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_78044.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_78044.jpg)



Bandai Macross Frontier Macross Quarter prototype

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_420340.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=420340.jpg)



I think im in love- with that SDF-1. The quarter is pretty sexy too (Really enjoyed the concept in Frontier)

Lord_Zed
26th February 2009, 11:06 PM
Just when you thought it was safe...

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Yamato 1/60 VT-1 Super Ostrich

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_hpqscan0001ost.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=hpqscan0001ost.jpg)



Yamato 1/2000 SDF-1 Macross from 'Macross: Do You REmember Love?' :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_18760.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_18760.jpg)



Bandai 1/100s line line-up (unconfirmed) :

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_87573.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_87573.jpg)



Bandai 1/100 VF-25s and VF-19

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_78044.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_78044.jpg)



Bandai Macross Frontier Macross Quarter prototype

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_420340.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=420340.jpg)

Awesome as they are I think I'm ok with these releases.

The Ostrich looks cool but the VF 1D should be enough for me.

that SDF1 Macross looks awesome, but its the size of Fort Max so I doubt I can afford anything that massive.

I'm still wating for a VF 4 or other rare Valkyrie partsformer, the VF 25s don't cut it for me, flawed as the DX 1/60 is its still transforms with a minimum of parts swaps. And as for the Fire Valkyrie, don't go there!

The Quater on the other hand could be trouble, espescialy if the price point is remotely reasonable.

I also saw a picture somwhere saying they were going to release the armour parts for the DX 25...uh oh!

Tober
27th February 2009, 12:06 AM
that SDF1 Macross looks awesome, but its the size of Fort Max so I doubt I can afford anything that massive.

I would actually consider Pay Per View to see a fight between those two. :rolleyes:

Soundwarp
27th February 2009, 06:16 AM
I actualy am loosing my mind over that 1/2000 Yamoto

Lord_Zed
2nd March 2009, 10:08 PM
Well it looks big, But I'm not sure. In the toy world bigger is not always better, I site supreme Cheetor, Ultimate Bumblebee, the large doll GI Joes, and even to some extent Yamato's own Q-rau as examples of big but disapointing.

If this new Macross, has heaps of details and cools stuff like a transparent bridge window then were talking! Although I still doubt I could afford it.

roller
2nd March 2009, 11:03 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooohhh after a hard days work im still up

why oh why do they put Skins on so late?!!!!

jacksplatt11
2nd March 2009, 11:20 PM
why oh why do they put Skins on so late?!!!!

Haha 10:30 isn't late :p besides they are old episodes, season 3 is already out, good show though eh

Tober
3rd March 2009, 05:39 AM
Preview of Yamato 1/60 Phalanx

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/pha.jpg

Fungal Infection
3rd March 2009, 10:59 AM
There was a time when I would have pre-ordered these in a snap but with the weakened dollar, I've had to cut back and wait till my sister-in-law takes her annual trip to Japan to grab them for me. And usually by that time, they are either sold out or discontinued. :(

Tober
17th April 2009, 06:52 AM
Yeah, its around the 72 Yen mark now, so getting better but still makes it alot harder to justify the costs :(. That Beagle 1/10 Mospeada Bartley is looking ridiculously hot too... LINK (http://wildcats.pupui.jp/mt/archives/2009/03/2009_part2.html)

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Yamato 1/60 VE-1 Elintseeker


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Picture_1.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Picture_4-1.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Picture_6.jpg

Fungal Infection
18th April 2009, 11:42 AM
That 1/10 Mospeada Bartley looks hawt - too bad it'll be ridiculously expensive like the others in the series. Megahouse really need to release a Bartley to go with their Yellow and Ley/Stick ride armours.

gamblor916
22nd April 2009, 07:34 AM
An armoured messiah

http://www.hlj.com/shs09repban.html

and a 1/48 YF-19!

http://www.hlj.com/shs09rephsg.html

Fungal Infection
22nd April 2009, 07:49 AM
Thank the powers that be that YF-19 is a kit and not a toy. Macross collecting is already expensive enough as it is. Love the armoured Messiah, but I still need to grab the Bandai Ozma and Alto first.

Tober
22nd April 2009, 08:00 AM
Thanks Gamblor, you just know the Hase YF-19 is going to look great, doubt it will transform tho - dunno, might just be an upscaled version of the 1/72 kit.

Ozma looks incredible in the armour pack.


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In the toy section Yamato are repainting their 1/60 Macross Plus toys... again:

1/60 Sturmvogel II

http://www.toyntoys.com/retail/YAM-JUN-VF22S_b.jpg

1/60 Bird of Prey

http://www.toyntoys.com/retail/YAM00172_b.jpg

1/60 Double Nuts

http://www.toyntoys.com/retail/YAM00173_b.jpg

gamblor916
22nd April 2009, 08:33 AM
That VF-19 is made by Hasegawa so it'll be non transforming but have superb detail and fit.
At 1/48 it's going to be huge :eek:

Lord_Zed
23rd April 2009, 11:31 PM
And then there's the 1/60 scale armoured VF25 comming to.

I really like the Sturmvogel, would have preffered Max or myllia colours though The 19's are nice to I hope Yamato has fixed up the problems with the 19 on these repaints though.

My other big hope is that the number of repaints like these and the Destroids leads to some overstocking and discounting in the near future. Come on guys cross your fingers.......

To many cool looking new toys damnit!

Tober
24th April 2009, 12:11 PM
Yamato Fan Racer

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_001.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=001.jpg)

How cute.


They are also re-releasing the 1/1 scale helmets, 41000 or so Yen. :(

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_PH1239271718.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=PH1239271718.jpg)

Tober
24th April 2009, 08:45 PM
Overdrive are having a small VF-1 Ver.2 1/60 and Destroid Sale - about AUD$100 per valk/dest + shipping. These may also the initial releases that had some sholder problems, so beware. I will enquire...



From Overdrive Newsletter:

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We will be having a sale of many of the earlier released Yamato 1/60
Series. Item that will be sold through this sale will be the following
items.

Note buying a VF-1 and Super Parts separately will actually be cheaper
then buying a VF-1 with Super Parts set when bought through this sale.
Sale will continue until at least May 27th. New item may be added as
they become available.

Please note unless in stock most items will take up to 7 business days
before shipping.

Item priced at $73.99

Macross - 1/60 VF-1S (Roy Focker Version) Standard Set
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=457

Macross - 1/60 VF-1A (Ichijo Haikaru Ver.) Standard Set
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=569

Macross - 1/60 VF-1J (Ichijo Haikaru Ver.) Standard Set
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=1013

Macross - 1/60 VF-1S (Ichijo Haikaru Ver.) Standard Set
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=1133

Macross - 1/60 MBR-04-Mk VI Destroid Tomahawk
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=531

Macross - 1/60 MBR-04-Mk X Destroid Defender
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=930

Super Parts set will be $31.99
Macross - 1/60 VF-1 Super Parts (Movie Ver)
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=458

Macross - 1/60 VF-1 Super Parts (TV Ver.)
http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=49_125&products_id=1014

loophole
24th April 2009, 09:58 PM
They are also re-releasing the 1/1 scale helmets, 41000 or so Yen. :(

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_PH1239271718.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=PH1239271718.jpg)

:eek: so you could infact wear this please say yes, now i have to google 41000 yen :D

Tober
24th April 2009, 10:07 PM
:eek: so you could infact wear this please say yes, now i have to google 41000 yen :D

Yes you can wear them. Cost is about Aud$600 before shipping. That's why the " :( ". They come in red/Hikaru, yellow/Roy or blue/Max.

Tober
9th May 2009, 05:15 PM
If there are any Eureka 7 fans on OTCA I figure they will be in here anyway (rather than start a new thread for 2 toys).

NEW Bandai Nirvash Spec 2 (http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN957701)

Bandai The END (http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN957702)

Tober
14th May 2009, 12:44 PM
Bandai 1/72 Macross Frontier VF-27 model kit:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/014.jpg http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/016.jpg


Bandai 1/72 Macross Frontier Queadluun-Rea model kit:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/018.jpg http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/017-thumb.jpg


Bandai 1/48 Macross Frontier VF-25 model kit:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/015.jpg

:eek: 1/48 would make it about 50cm long/high.

gamblor916
14th May 2009, 01:19 PM
Bandai 1/48 Macross Frontier VF-25 model kit:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/015.jpg

:eek: 1/48 would make it about 50cm long/high.

Oh no, too much cool stuff coming out this year :eek:

Fungal Infection
14th May 2009, 08:23 PM
Anyone know when the Bandai DX Armoured VF-25S is due out in Japan? I read it had a June release but I'm not sure when exactly. My sister-in-law is in Japan at the moment and will be back mid June so I'm hoping its released before then so she can grab it for me so I can skimp on shipping. :p

gamblor916
14th May 2009, 08:32 PM
Anyone know when the Bandai DX Armoured VF-25S is due out in Japan? I read it had a June release but I'm not sure when exactly. My sister-in-law is in Japan at the moment and will be back mid June so I'm hoping its released before then so she can grab it for me so I can skimp on shipping. :p

It looks like it's delayed until late August.

Tober
14th May 2009, 08:45 PM
It looks like it's delayed until late August.

Yep, August is what I'm seeing too. Link (http://www.toyslogic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=588_604_97&products_id=8983)

Release Date: 08/14/2009.

Fungal Infection
15th May 2009, 07:29 PM
Yep, August is what I'm seeing too. Link (http://www.toyslogic.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=588_604_97&products_id=8983)

Release Date: 08/14/2009.

F#$@!! Oh well, I guess I'll just have to contend with the RVF-25 and VF-25G she's already gotten for me. But I was really hoping to grab the Armoured variant as well. :(

Tober
14th June 2009, 05:04 PM
HLJ currently has a sale on older Yamato Macross toys:

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljsalepage2/?Count=20&Maker1=YMT&DisplayMode=images&randstr=yif7f8sz

Some absolute bargains in there :eek:

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Bandai Armor plus EX-Gear Saotome Alto to be released in September , price 7,500 yen.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/20090602_7592833d900c876143e0mOPUn7.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/GrandCannon/MACROSS-Bandai/FIG-IPN-0584.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/GrandCannon/MACROSS-Bandai/FIG-IPN-0584_01.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/GrandCannon/MACROSS-Bandai/FIG-IPN-0584_02.jpg

Lord_Zed
14th June 2009, 10:14 PM
I wasn't all the excited by the announcment the X-gear was being released, but that actualy looks rather good.

Some nice sale items to, can't help but notice the Gn-u's are cheaper than Revoltech with the discount. Although most of the fancy stuff is still only 30% of.

I'm tempted but then there's all that new stuff comming. doh! :confused:

Tober
11th July 2009, 05:43 AM
Macross Quarter preorder at HLJ (http://hlj.com/product/BAN958453)...

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ban958453.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ban958453.jpg)


Yamato 1/60 VF-1D Virgin Road
Out in Sept.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_001-1.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=001-1.jpg)


Robot Damashii VF-25F Super Messiah Valkyrie Alto Custom

http://hlj.com/product/BAN959022

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ban959022.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ban959022.jpg)

Robot Damashii Queadluun-Rhea Klan Custom

http://hlj.com/product/BAN959023

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ban959023.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ban959023.jpg)

Tober
17th July 2009, 05:41 AM
Bandai Macross Quater

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/027.jpg

Bandai Koenig Monster (not confirmed if fully transformable yet)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/014-1.jpg

Fungal Infection
17th July 2009, 07:23 AM
Oh man, just when I ruled out getting the Quarter I'm now having to reconsider my decision. Damn you Tober!! :p

Saintly
17th July 2009, 03:48 PM
sweeeeeet tober!

Lord_Zed
19th July 2009, 05:27 PM
What no mention of the VF 1J 1/60 Max and Mirya valkyries?

Or the 1/60 Alto custom VF 25 with fast packs?

So much damn Macross stuff comming out which ones to get?????

Arrrggghhh!!

Tober
19th July 2009, 05:58 PM
What no mention of the VF 1J 1/60 Max and Mirya valkyries?

Or the 1/60 Alto custom VF 25 with fast packs?

So much damn Macross stuff comming out which ones to get?????

Arrrggghhh!!

There doesn't seem to be alot of interest here so I just posted the more interesting releases. :o

The 'Virgin Road'? I don't think most casual Macross fans would know it... :confused:

Lord_Zed
19th July 2009, 09:51 PM
Meant these two actualy

http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00091
http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00092

They were pretty big in the original series.

Although there not as fance and new as the new Mac Frontier stuff.

I wish the Q-Rau was a little bit larger, the Yamoto one is to big and the new Bandai one is to small.

Tober
20th July 2009, 11:05 AM
HLJ.com currently has a 50% off sale on some of their older 100 and 1/72 model kit parts. Tempting... :rolleyes:

----------------------------------------------

New 1/100 Frontier Valks from Bandai:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/GrandCannon/ap_20090718062648559.jpg

http://ga.sbcr.jp/mreport/013235/images/08.jpg

gamblor916
20th July 2009, 12:24 PM
HLJ.com currently has a 50% off sale on some of their older 100 and 1/72 model kit parts. Tempting... :rolleyes:



This (http://hlj.com/product/BAN958497) and this (http://hlj.com/product/BAN958130) looks like a good deal...

Tober
20th July 2009, 06:06 PM
This (http://hlj.com/product/BAN958497) and this (http://hlj.com/product/BAN958130) looks like a good deal...

They are kinda tempting...

Fungal Infection
20th July 2009, 09:12 PM
I was going to wait for the VF-25F with Super Pack to be released before I got the VF-25F but seeing as though its coloured in a suitable nancy Alto colour (light blue), I'm just going to grab the version 2 stand alone Alto and match it to the Armoured Pack I have on order. Though the Super packs are tempting.....

gamblor916
22nd July 2009, 07:41 PM
What the hell is this???

I picked up the Jan and Feb issues of Model Graphix and saw this. Google finds very little on it.
From what I can pick out of the text it's a 1/72 kit.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2979/p1010361a.jpg

Tober
22nd July 2009, 08:04 PM
What the hell is this???

I picked up the Jan and Feb issues of Model Graphix and saw this. Google finds very little on it.
From what I can pick out of the text it's a 1/72 kit.

It was an exclusive:

Bandai PROSHOP Limited model 1/72 VF-25F Messiah Valkyrie Clear Version (http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3347)

gamblor916
22nd July 2009, 08:19 PM
Gah! Japanese exclusive 6 months ago means no chance to get it dammit.

Tober
22nd July 2009, 09:06 PM
Gah! Japanese exclusive 6 months ago means no chance to get it dammit.

It's around for double the store price - which is kinda reasonable seeing as you'd be charged third party fees anyway for a store exclusive.

On eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Frontier-Shoji-Kawamori-1-72-VF-25F-Clear-ver_W0QQitemZ380141767559QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item5882370b87&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)

gamblor916
23rd July 2009, 07:34 AM
It's around for double the store price - which is kinda reasonable seeing as you'd be charged third party fees anyway for a store exclusive.

On eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Frontier-Shoji-Kawamori-1-72-VF-25F-Clear-ver_W0QQitemZ380141767559QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item5882370b87&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)

You're a legend Tobes :)

Tober
23rd July 2009, 03:03 PM
Yamato 1/60 Valkyries

VF-1J GBP Armour - VF-1S Low Vis

Max and Millia Super VF-1Js (cos I skipped it before :o )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/GrandCannon/GBP_HJ9.jpg

gamblor916
6th August 2009, 04:03 PM
More wacky paint schemes

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6170/vf25gdecal.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/796/vf25fdecal.jpg

Fungal Infection
6th August 2009, 06:41 PM
Looks like the designers were on a acid when they thought of those colour schemes...... :p

Lord_Zed
7th August 2009, 12:09 AM
Looks like the designers were on a acid when they thought of those colour schemes...... :p

Agreed, though the ranka one without the Ranka graphics is a good nod to the movie Kakazaki Valkyrie.

Tober
7th August 2009, 12:13 AM
I quite like the blue one actually :p

Are they difficult to model and transform?

gamblor916
7th August 2009, 07:37 AM
I quite like the blue one actually :p

Are they difficult to model and transform?

Buy one and find out :p

I've opened the box on my VF-25s but that's pretty much it.

Fungal Infection
7th August 2009, 09:01 AM
Gamblor's a MIB collector - he opens the box, looks at the instructions and contents then puts it away. :p

gamblor916
8th August 2009, 10:16 AM
I do build! It just takes a while :D
Here's a work in progress.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8070/p1010391d.jpg

As for the rest of it well...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3383/p1010388n.jpg

kurdt_the_goat
11th August 2009, 07:42 PM
Well i'm in Japan at the moment, so i've finally been able to open and play with my VF-1A! The wait was worth it - this is an immaculate looking toy. I really appreciate how well most everything locks into place solidly and with few gaps - only the arms in fighter mode, especially when holding the gun doesn't seem as secure as the rest.

It's almost too well engineered! The tightness of the connections at the front of the fighter mode made it pretty difficult to transform the first time. I'm also impressed with the Super & Strike parts and how they attach, very solidly, but without a whole lot of breakage fear.

I'm yet to apply some stickers; I'm sure it'll look even better once a select few are applied! There are some i will leave off since they seem to be placed along panel lines (which are impressively thin btw) and strangely the back fin hinges! I do wish the name of the pilot was tampo'd, since the sticker needs to go onto a small area, but i understand it would have to change for each recolour release...

Overall, i think i might still prefer the Masterpiece Starscream mould, if only because i prefer the shape of the robot mode. It's really impressive how realistic the VF is in fighter mode though - it could easily be mistaken for a real-life jet from some angles.

I saw some of the Bandai DX releases in Akihabara, and they all looked awesome - They'll have to wait till next time though!

Dkaris
11th August 2009, 10:28 PM
Sorry if these questions were answered , i did look through but couldnt find them. I watched macross back in the day, and really enjoyed it. I was wondering if those Yamato 1/60 scale figures/models need to be painted? or do they come pre painted? My second question was is there any good online stores for these either AU or probably more US or japan(obviously hlj.) =]

Lord_Zed
11th August 2009, 10:29 PM
The 1/60 VF 1A or the bigger one? just out of curiosity where did you buy it from?


Sorry if these questions were answered , i did look through but couldnt find them. I watched macross back in the day, and really enjoyed it. I was wondering if those Yamato 1/60 scale figures/models need to be painted? or do they come pre painted? My second question was is there any good online stores for these either AU or probably more US or japan(obviously hlj.) =]

The Yamato 1/60 Valkyries are completed toys so they don't require paint. Direct from Japan is the best way to get them either HLJ or Overdrive toys on the net come to mind. They both often have sales to, so sometimes you can pick the less popular variants up cheaply.

From time to time local importers sell them to, but they typicaly add 50% to what you'd pay online.

Dkaris
11th August 2009, 11:36 PM
Thanks for that. I may wait for the release of the VF-1J 1/60 Milia valkyrie. Apparently its due out in a few months =]

kurdt_the_goat
12th August 2009, 12:45 PM
The 1/60 VF 1A or the bigger one? just out of curiosity where did you buy it from?

1/60. I bought it when it came out from Amazon Japan late last year. In terms of local Japan availability, i did see some in Yodobashi Camera, a massive retailer in Akihabara. They even had some YF-21 and YF-19 original issues still in stock! That's why i'm confident ill be able to pick up a Bandai DX next time i visit, even if they're long past being reissued, which itself is also unlikely!

Tober
16th August 2009, 02:27 PM
That's why i'm confident ill be able to pick up a Bandai DX next time i visit, even if they're long past being reissued, which itself is also unlikely!

The first releases have already been reissued tho. They were extremely popular (for some reason).

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Bandai 1/60 Macross Frontier - DX: VF-25S Armored Messiah Valkyire (Ozma Ver)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/FD-BAN-MAF-033_1.jpg

1/60 VF-1J Hilkaru Ver with Super Parts Set

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/10096195a.jpg

Lord_Zed
16th August 2009, 06:03 PM
The first releases have already been reissued tho. They were extremely popular (for some reason).



Yup, Macross Frontier seems quite popular, good thing is that means more toys, at least I think that's a good thing.

I rather like the DX and they doo seem somewhat popular, so I'm trying to decide if I want that armoured Ozama or not, I already have 2 DX's so a 3rd one is pushing it a bit, but I worry It will sell out before I decide.

I wonder if they will ever release the armour alone for Alto.

Fungal Infection
17th August 2009, 07:36 AM
I wonder if they will ever release the armour alone for Alto.

They will be but its a Bandai webshop exclusive. I have 2 on order at the moment thanks to my brother-in-law in Japan. I can't believe the markup online stores are making on these - its only $76 Aus ordered from the webshop (not including shipping) but online, stores are charging up to $150 Aus!! I may sell one of the sets if I can get that kind of price! :D

Tober
11th September 2009, 01:53 PM
Yamato 1/2000 SDFMacross unofficial update showing alternate mode:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/gallery_151_312_23791.jpg

Looks nice in 'wax'. :cool:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_53857.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_53857.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_41226.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_41226.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_gallery_151_312_22822.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=gallery_151_312_22822.jpg)


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Bandai 1/72 YF-25 Famima model kit and 1/100 VF-25 toy store exclusives:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/excl-1.jpg http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/excl-2.jpg

Dkaris
20th September 2009, 07:36 PM
Im wondering what you guys think is a better buy? the 1/60 scale figures, or the 1/48s. obviously there is a fair price difference. Is Do the 1/60 scales stand around 9 inches tall?

primetime
21st September 2009, 02:04 PM
For me it has to be the 1/48 line. The smaller scale of 1/60 doesnt really do it for me despite superior detail, articulation.

Some people will express disappointment with the Yamato 1/48 line due to poor QC / QA, but their original VF-1x valkyries have been pretty solid.

Avoid the VF-0x line at all costs unless u absolutely need them, shocking materials and very poor quality control!

primetime
21st September 2009, 02:06 PM
Well both Soundwarp and I have this one:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-ebay/125178-1-60-yamato-dyrl-vf-1a-hikaru-armored-parts-vf-1-a.html

(Not with the armor kit though, just the first picture). Fully transformable and plenty of diecast. I got mine for a song a few years ago, ($50) totally worth it. I think they are in some insane price range now.

But I think you should really look at the new (old) bandai 25th releases. The basic toy, (vf-1s) is G1 jetfire. :) And is also the original veritech fighter.

http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?MacroType=Toy&searchpage=top_page&Dis=-2&from=detail&Word=macross%20bandai

I want three of those four. The only downside is cost :eek:

LOL wasn't aware there's huge price hike for the original 1/60 diecast Valks.

I bought them all when they first came out so wasn't expensive and got my second loose but mint and complete set at a bargain price on e-Bay when some seller offloaded them!

I still also like the original 1/60s due to the amount of diecast - it feels esp solid and authentic looking!

Dkaris
21st September 2009, 07:30 PM
Anyone know how the shipping time is for over drive?

Tober
21st September 2009, 07:52 PM
Im wondering what you guys think is a better buy? the 1/60 scale figures, or the 1/48s. obviously there is a fair price difference. Is Do the 1/60 scales stand around 9 inches tall?

Yep, not including the FAST/Super packs the standard 1/60 are about 9" tall.

My display valk of choice is the 1/48, but I only have the one. I have several of the 1/60 Version 2 valks as 1/60 is now the standard scale for the Yamato range.

I recommend buying from an online store unless you know exactly what you are looking for. There are the older 1/60 Version 1 valks on eBay everywhere because Macross collectors ane now upgrading.


For me it has to be the 1/48 line. The smaller scale of 1/60 doesnt really do it for me despite superior detail, articulation.

Some people will express disappointment with the Yamato 1/48 line due to poor QC / QA, but their original VF-1x valkyries have been pretty solid.

Avoid the VF-0x line at all costs unless u absolutely need them, shocking materials and very poor quality control!

True, but the later releases were fixed. Again I would recommend avoiding eBay.


Anyone know how the shipping time is for over drive?

They only ship by EMS. You recieve a shipping notice including the tracking link/info. Usually taked 4 days on average, if it's not retained by custons...

Tober
21st September 2009, 07:53 PM
Yamato 1/60 Max and Miria repaints of the VF-22S

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/3930014843_2a30c06c65_o.jpg

Dkaris
21st September 2009, 08:28 PM
They only ship by EMS. You recieve a shipping notice including the tracking link/info. Usually taked 4 days on average, if it's not retained by custons...

Does many of their shipments get witheld by customs? Also, how can you tell if the 1/60's are the newer ones or the older die cast sets?

Tober
21st September 2009, 09:03 PM
Does many of their shipments get witheld by customs? Also, how can you tell if the 1/60's are the newer ones or the older die cast sets?

Two of my last three shipments were witheld for a few days - last one wasn't.

The older versions have been out of stock for years - so mainline suppliers like HLJ, Overdrive, Angolz, Toywave, BBTS etc shouldn't have them in stock anymore. The proportions are slightly different but it's the disconnecting legs and swing-bar size that are the dead giveaway. Also the packaging is slightly different - the older packaging is a windowed blister box, the newer packaging is similar but larger with a flap covering the window.

PM me if you're in doubt about a listing.

Lord_Zed
21st September 2009, 09:22 PM
Whoa! Those VF-22S repaints rock! I was considering buying the Gamlin type, but a Max Jenius one would be even better, when are those dure out, they better not be hard to get limited toys.

On the subject of which Valkyrie scale is best, I like my 1/60's they share a spot with there larger Macross Zero cousins. The new ones are really sharp looking, I would have more if they weren't so pricey. I don't really have a 1/40 so I can't really compare them.

Fungal Infection
21st September 2009, 09:33 PM
If anyone wants to buy ANY of the original version 1 VF-1 valkyries by Yamato, gimme a holler as I'm looking to upgrade to the version 2s. :D

Dkaris
22nd September 2009, 03:10 AM
Thanks for answering my questions Tober and primetime. I never knew about angolz and toywave. Gonna pick up the Vf-1S hikaru version with super parts =]

STL
25th September 2009, 01:08 AM
The first releases have already been reissued tho. They were extremely popular (for some reason).

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Bandai 1/60 Macross Frontier - DX: VF-25S Armored Messiah Valkyire (Ozma Ver)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/FD-BAN-MAF-033_1.jpg



Darn you guys. I'm very tempted by this. Could I ask how sturdy and tall is this? My memory of a lot of Gundam stuff (which I know isn't quite the same) was build and not very playable. Are these reasonably solid? They look lovely in all the pictures and all I'm really worried about is their playability.

Tober
25th September 2009, 07:03 AM
Darn you guys. I'm very tempted by this. Could I ask how sturdy and tall is this? My memory of a lot of Gundam stuff (which I know isn't quite the same) was build and not very playable. Are these reasonably solid? They look lovely in all the pictures and all I'm really worried about is their playability.

There's a good review of the VF-25S Armored Messiah Ozma Custom here (http://www.collectiondx.com/review/robot_toy/vf_25s_armored_messiah_ozma_custom).

I don't like the proportions compared to the Macross Frontier line art - especially the high hips, and stubby neck (which now has a swap-out fix), but it's a sturdy toy (much tougher than the Yamatos) at around 23cm high in battroid/robot mode. I don't have the armored version tho.

Fungal Infection
25th September 2009, 08:57 AM
My webshop exclusive Alto armour arrived today - I still need an Alto valkyrie however to put it on however . :p

Robzy
25th September 2009, 12:26 PM
Just picked up a Bandai VF-1S Origin of Valkyrie "Chunky Monkey" from Shin Tokyo. I couldn't resist their sale price - $99... plus I love the mould!! :)

Lord_Zed
25th September 2009, 11:24 PM
My webshop exclusive Alto armour arrived today - I still need an Alto valkyrie however to put it on however . :p

I have the reverse of your problem.

Dern Armoured exclusives!

Dkaris
28th September 2009, 11:59 PM
recieved my VF-1S Ichigo with super parts today. i love it. Dunno now if i want one of the VF-25's or they miraya VF

Tober
29th September 2009, 05:43 AM
My webshop exclusive Alto armour arrived today - I still need an Alto valkyrie however to put it on however . :p

Have you tried putting it on another VF-25? I heard it's really frustrating to get it to fit. :confused:


Just picked up a Bandai VF-1S Origin of Valkyrie "Chunky Monkey" from Shin Tokyo. I couldn't resist their sale price - $99... plus I love the mould!! :)

It's a classic design. ;)


recieved my VF-1S Ichigo with super parts today. i love it. Dunno now if i want one of the VF-25's or they miraya VF

That would have been my first choice too. :)

The 1/60 vf-25 is not as elegent.

Dkaris
29th September 2009, 11:47 AM
the VF-25 looks very cheap and a bit tacky compared to the others i think.

Fungal Infection
29th September 2009, 02:48 PM
Here's my Alto armour pack fixed to a VF-25G:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/armour1.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/armour2.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/armour3.jpg

This is an extremely fiddly kit. Everything fits into place but too much handling and the smaller parts will fall off. Also, the boosters make the battroid mode very top-heavy so posing can be an issue without the included display stand. I think it looks best in fighter mode. Gerwalk mode requires that you attach supports to the underside to support the weight of the boosters which is disappointing but considering how much engineering would have been required to produce this in the first place, I don't see how it could have been done any other way. Just need to get me an Alto VF-25F now.....

Tober
29th September 2009, 06:01 PM
This is an extremely fiddly kit. Everything fits into place but too much handling and the smaller parts will fall off. Also, the boosters make the battroid mode very top-heavy so posing can be an issue without the included display stand. I think it looks best in fighter mode. Gerwalk mode requires that you attach supports to the underside to support the weight of the boosters which is disappointing but considering how much engineering would have been required to produce this in the first place, I don't see how it could have been done any other way. Just need to get me an Alto VF-25F now.....

Thanks, that's what I heard. I'm waiting for them to release the Ozma armor parts separately, otherwise I can do without.

Lord_Zed
29th September 2009, 08:23 PM
This is an extremely fiddly kit. Everything fits into place but too much handling and the smaller parts will fall off. Also, the boosters make the battroid mode very top-heavy so posing can be an issue without the included display stand. I think it looks best in fighter mode. Gerwalk mode requires that you attach supports to the underside to support the weight of the boosters which is disappointing but considering how much engineering would have been required to produce this in the first place, I don't see how it could have been done any other way. Just need to get me an Alto VF-25F now.....

Does the latch that holds the groin and the pack together come undone because of the extra weight on the back? Becuase that's what bothers me about the Fast packs. I heard they had finally fixed the armour for the thighs to?


Anyways it looks very nice, but the only way for me to get it now is to buy another VF 25, and I'd rather get a new mould.



Darn you guys. I'm very tempted by this. Could I ask how sturdy and tall is this? My memory of a lot of Gundam stuff (which I know isn't quite the same) was build and not very playable. Are these reasonably solid? They look lovely in all the pictures and all I'm really worried about is their playability.

So to summarise based on Fungals report, the bits on the outside are fiddly and not very playable, but the Valkyrie itself without the bits is fairly durable.



the VF-25 looks very cheap and a bit tacky compared to the others i think.

It's uglier alright, but not cheap. It's built a bit tougher than Yamato's, and has a certain heft to it thank's to the diecast. Although If I only had one Valkyrie I'd still prefer a Yamato.

Fungal Infection
29th September 2009, 09:27 PM
Does the latch that holds the groin and the pack together come undone because of the extra weight on the back? Becuase that's what bothers me about the Fast packs. I heard they had finally fixed the armour for the thighs to?


Because the Armoured pack is considerably heavier than the fast packs, the latch is even more likely to come apart. You really have to pose the valk perfectly to get it to stand. I even had to spread the wing/boosters outwards to spread the weight of the boosters to the sides to prevent the battroid mode toppling over (see pics above). I find its less of an issue with the regular fast pack, in fact it poses rather well and holds together solidly although the problem with the smaller fiddly bits coming off is still prevalent. The leg armour and boosters hold in place very well, but the chest, arm guards and rear piece have a tendancy to pop off if overly handled, which is an issue with both fast pack and armour kits.

STL
30th September 2009, 07:40 PM
Nice Fungal!

I tried my luck out and bought a VF-25F but I didn't realise it was a model kit and not a complete transforming one. I've since spent the last few nights trying to put it together. And to boot, i spent $70 more than I should've

Can anyone advise me whether these will be fully transforming without having to build first?

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN959033

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN960342

gamblor916
30th September 2009, 08:18 PM
New 1/48 VF-19 looks tasty

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3419/3940501600_e0434a68a5.jpg

http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/09/hasegawas-148-yf-19-new-images.html

Tober
30th September 2009, 11:12 PM
Nice Fungal!

I tried my luck out and bought a VF-25F but I didn't realise it was a model kit and not a complete transforming one. I've since spent the last few nights trying to put it together. And to boot, i spent $70 more than I should've

Can anyone advise me whether these will be fully transforming without having to build first?

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN959033

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN960342

Oops, hope you have fun building it at least. :o


The first link is the 1/100 toy which requires a fair amount of parts-swapping and was apparently really loose and not alot of fun. Many online reviews bagged them. The proportions were more like the model kit tho.

The second link is the '1/60 DX' which is the sturdier toy but with the compromised proportions.

This is probably the one you're after:

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN956817

But the armor is fiddly and compromises it's posability - as Fungal mentioned. And really expensive. :eek:

Dkaris
30th September 2009, 11:45 PM
by god i find those 25's ugly. they just look so... crowded? with the packs and all. i d unno its probably just me. I like style but it just seems a bit over the top

Tober
1st October 2009, 09:13 AM
I think they're ok. The bare VF-25 fighter is quite nice looking - battroid a bit too anorexic, but alright. It is interesting that it can transform with that armor pack on tho - most other heavy armour packs have to be ejected to allow the battroid to transform.

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And yeah, that 1/48 VF-19 looks great. There is a 1/48 VF-25 kit coming as well but it's unknown if it can transform either.

Fungal Infection
1st October 2009, 01:56 PM
I think based on my observations with my armoured VF-25 that I might have thrown a few people off getting one - despite its flaws, I still love the VF-25. The diecast, sturdiness of the toy outweighs all its flaws . I also think the pose of VF-25G I used makes it look less impressive - the armoured kit is meant to go on the Alto version and is coloured accordingly to match. The blue colours of the VF-25G don't blend well with the armoured kit colours. I'll take pics again when my VF-25F arrives. If you need convincing of how good the VF-25 can look, here are pics of the fast pack versions:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/Acquisitions/acquisitions172.jpg

Tober
1st October 2009, 03:26 PM
BANDAI Scans


1/60 DX and EX-Gear

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_DX.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=DX.jpg)


1/100

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_100s.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=100s.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_100ss.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=100ss.jpg)


1/72 Model Kits

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_models.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=models.jpg)


Robot Spirit (non-transformable)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_spirit.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=spirit.jpg)


DX Macross Quarter

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_J.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=J.jpg)

Tober
2nd October 2009, 12:39 AM
Bandai 1/60 DX VF-27

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/01.jpg

Supposedly anyway. :)

Tober
2nd October 2009, 06:10 AM
Some really big pics from a Yamato trade show:

Newly released and upcoming products.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_185-3.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=185-3.jpg)

Upcoming SDF Macross from 'DYRL?'

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_185-2.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=185-2.jpg)

And if anyone is thinking of getting one of those 1/1 helmets apparently they
CAN NOT BE WORN. They are for display, not cosplay.

Interesting that they have a poster from the upcoming Frontier movies in the background seeing as they don't have the license for them. :(

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Update of the Bandai DX Macross Quarter

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ap_20091001095505862.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ap_20091001095505862.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ap_20091001095434517.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ap_20091001095434517.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_ap_20091001095426394.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=ap_20091001095426394.jpg)

Tober
2nd October 2009, 11:40 AM
Yamato 1/60 VF-11C

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/vf-11C.jpg

STL
2nd October 2009, 04:40 PM
---> DX Macross Quarter

Damn you Tober! That's hot. When's that due and what's the price? I'm assuming its transformable?

Also, would you or Fungal take some of your collection pics? Or advise of where to have squiz at ppl's Macross collections?

Tober
2nd October 2009, 06:17 PM
---> DX Macross Quarter

Damn you Tober! That's hot. When's that due and what's the price? I'm assuming its transformable?

It costs a whopping AUD$250 and ships in December (supposidly, they delay as often as Takara tho). It is transformable.

Details at HLJ.com (http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN958453)

EDIT: A small pic showing the size of the included mini-figures on the flight deck.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/quartView.jpg


Also, would you or Fungal take some of your collection pics? Or advise of where to have squiz at ppl's Macross collections?

Fungal would be the better pick for photos. He has a more expansive collection... and a camera. My collection is mostly packed away and quite selective.

There are various threads on MacrossWorld.com dedicated to members showing off their collections. This is a typical page (http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=29427&st=70) although you wouold have to register to see any attached pictures.

Fungal Infection
2nd October 2009, 11:04 PM
You can check out collection pics here:

Linky (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=5128)

You can see how much my collection has increased by looking at the links for Playroom 1.0, 2.0 and then 3.0. I've actually increased my collection since but cant be arsed taking another pic. :p

STL
3rd October 2009, 04:28 PM
Thanks Tober! Some cool pics.

And I'll be getting that for sure. Give me something to spend on instead of spares for my TF collection :o

It does seem a lot of the jets are very similar in appearance. There differences tend to in nuances as opposed to clear structure and proportions. Would that be a correct assessment? The more I look through, the more selective I think I'm going to have to be as i don't want too many similar looking ones together

EDIT:
And another question (i'm sure there will be many more)

are the guys in these pics: (http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?s=&showtopic=29427&view=findpost&p=759478)

the equivalent of the 1/60s here at HLJ with armoured/custom listings (http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?SeriesID=3659&Dis=2&MacroType=Toy)

Fungal Infection
3rd October 2009, 10:19 PM
Yup, those are all VF-25s from the Bandai 1/60 DX Chogokin range. The ones shown in the pics are the VF-25G (blue), the RVF-25 (green), VF-25F Alto (white/red) and VF-25S Ozma (grey/yellow). The Alto and Ozma have super packs fitted to them which were bandai webshop exclusives so expect to pay big $$$ for the super packs. There is a movie "renewal" version of Alto being released later this year if you want the super pack version but it has different colours to the original version.

Tober
4th October 2009, 06:52 AM
Thanks Tober! Some cool pics.

And I'll be getting that for sure. Give me something to spend on instead of spares for my TF collection :o

It does seem a lot of the jets are very similar in appearance. There differences tend to in nuances as opposed to clear structure and proportions. Would that be a correct assessment? The more I look through, the more selective I think I'm going to have to be as i don't want too many similar looking ones together


Yeah, that is a kinda problem with Macross, there arn't that many jets with different molds out there and they are often only distinguished by their armor/FAST accessory packs and heads. The VF-1 series... we are in repaint Hell. Allot of collectors are selective tho - they pick a character they like and stick to collecting his versions of VFs, or like myself limit themselves to only one variant of each mold. It's a little bit like the Transformers Seekers - you have Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Sunstorm and Acid Rain who are repaints and then Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet who are mold variants. With Macross they fly the same jets in their squad and the packs reflect their roles - sniper, recon, armor, scout etc. There are other jets in Macross Frontier too but they havent been released, yet, prototype for the VF-27 is above, but the VF-17 and VB-6 Koenig Monster are nowhere to be seen yet.


EDIT:
And another question (i'm sure there will be many more)

are the guys in these pics: (http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?s=&showtopic=29427&view=findpost&p=759478)

the equivalent of the 1/60s here at HLJ with armoured/custom listings (http://www.hlj.com/hljlist2/?SeriesID=3659&Dis=2&MacroType=Toy)

Yes. The ones in those pics are the 1/72 kits. The HLJ listings are for the toys. The models have better proportions but are more fragile than the toys.

Lord_Zed
4th October 2009, 07:45 PM
Curses! This thread is evil, so many new Macross releases look so good!!!

The VF 27, the Quarter, the VF 11c all looks so damn awesome!

Add that to the new 22's and it's just to much. I hope half that stuff is not due till next year.

Dkaris
4th October 2009, 09:08 PM
As has been stated previously, A lot of the valkyries are simply repaints of the same type of valk, but i think thats what i like about them. I'm selective in my choosing, but somehow i just think some of the different paint schemes can really make the model. For example. I find the VF-1S focker valk for example to be a bit plain, However i find the soon to be released 1/60 max or milia's repaint of the same valk to be quite more to my taste, maybe because theres such a different in color variation.

On a side note, the other day i found an old Destroid action figure i picked up when i was like 10 from world 4 kids when it was shutting down, cost me like $5 =D

STL
5th October 2009, 12:25 PM
I was going to hold off as I'd been naughty enough lately but I was checking out the online stores and making a want list when I stumbled across the SV-51 Nora for $124! I couldn't turn it down at that price given he seems to cost between $230-$300 shipped. I added the Ex-Gear and voila, I now have (hopefully) my first two transforming/non-assembly required Macross toys.

While these are expensive, they seem not to hit with the same frequency of deluxes/scouts/legends/voyagers etc. My want list looks expensive but I attribute it down to the fact I'm a bit late into the game.

I'm looking at the VF-25F with Super and Armor next and I want to add your two, Fungal. The RV-25G and the RVF-25. I think my goal of 2500 TFs in the 25th year is just about to hit a major roadblock!

Can't wait!

EDIT:
and thanks to Tober and Fungal too for starting me down this path. Well, kinda. My wallet doesn't seem to agre

Tober
5th October 2009, 02:21 PM
I was going to hold off as I'd been naughty enough lately but I was checking out the online stores and making a want list when I stumbled across the SV-51 Nora for $124! I couldn't turn it down at that price given he seems to cost between $230-$300 shipped. I added the Ex-Gear and voila, I now have (hopefully) my first two transforming/non-assembly required Macross toys.

While these are expensive, they seem not to hit with the same frequency of deluxes/scouts/legends/voyagers etc. My want list looks expensive but I attribute it down to the fact I'm a bit late into the game.

I'm looking at the VF-25F with Super and Armor next and I want to add your two, Fungal. The RV-25G and the RVF-25. I think my goal of 2500 TFs in the 25th year is just about to hit a major roadblock!

Can't wait!

EDIT:
and thanks to Tober and Fungal too for starting me down this path. Well, kinda. My wallet doesn't seem to agre

WOW!! You might be in for a bit of a shock there :eek:!! The SV-51 Nora is as much of a b***h to transform as is the woman that pilots it. I packed up my Ivanov a few hours ago and was literally thinking of how lucky it is that people new to Macross wouldn't have to deal with it yet :rolleyes:. You have to be VERY patient with transforming it - it is the most complex valkyrie out there and has many small tabs and hooks that are easily overlooked. I would honestly set aside an hour to go through it - I think that's about as long as it took me. It's a very strange valk but $124 is a bargain - I was actually thinking of getting a second one at that price but I don't have the space.

I think the EX-Gear is cool, I was really pleased by it, but it doesn't really transform as such. It's used as a flying armor that folds up and can interact with a VF-25 Frontier Valk.

BTW, have you watched any Macross series or movies? :rolleyes:

Fungal Infection
5th October 2009, 02:42 PM
If you want the VF-25F Alto without armor or super packs, BBTS has him at $124 US (plus $34 shipping). Thats the cheapest you'll find online for the standalone. So cheap in fact, that I ordered him so my armor pack will actually have a valk to attach to. :D

Fungal Infection
5th October 2009, 02:49 PM
WOW!! You might be in for a bit of a shock there :eek:!! The SV-51 Nora is as much of a b***h to transform as is the woman that pilots it. I packed up my Ivanov a few hours ago and was literally thinking of how lucky it is that people new to Macross wouldn't have to deal with it yet :rolleyes:. You have to be VERY patient with transforming it - it is the most complex valkyrie out there and has many small tabs and hooks that are easily overlooked. I would honestly set aside an hour to go through it - I think that's about as long as it took me. It's a very strange valk but $124 is a bargain - I was actually thinking of getting a second one at that price but I don't have the space.

I think the EX-Gear is cool, I was really pleased by it, but it doesn't really transform as such. It's used as a flying armor that folds up and can interact with a VF-25 Frontier Valk.

BTW, have you watched any Macross series or movies? :rolleyes:

Yeah, the Sv-51 is a really tricky and fragile piece. It does look good fully loaded in valkyrie mode however (although space consuming because of its large wingspan). But just be very careful if you are thinking of getting one of its arch-enemies, the VF-0S/A - these are some of the worst quality controlled valks ever released. Read about it on macrossworld if you need convincing. I assume the $124 price is from Overdrive?

Lord_Zed
5th October 2009, 06:29 PM
Bah! I don't know what all this complaining is about, I can Transform my SV-51 with relative ease. Yes it's fragile, but so are some of the arm joints on the VF-0 and the VF-1, It's easily my favorte Valkyrie in my collection.

Tober
5th October 2009, 06:59 PM
Yeah, but you're Lord_Zed! It's just a disclaimer as it's kinda like jumping into the deep end. :p

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This was released about 3 weeks ago, but if you havent seen this before it's rather interesting, really interesting stuff is around the 3.15 mark:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTIzMTUyNzAw.html

Re-arrangement for the Makurosu opening sequence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2QiH6wEUvs

Apparently it's only for a Pachinko game. :(

STL
5th October 2009, 10:52 PM
WOW!! You might be in for a bit of a shock there :eek:!! The SV-51 Nora is as much of a b***h to transform as is the woman that pilots it. I packed up my Ivanov a few hours ago and was literally thinking of how lucky it is that people new to Macross wouldn't have to deal with it yet :rolleyes:. You have to be VERY patient with transforming it - it is the most complex valkyrie out there and has many small tabs and hooks that are easily overlooked. I would honestly set aside an hour to go through it - I think that's about as long as it took me. It's a very strange valk but $124 is a bargain - I was actually thinking of getting a second one at that price but I don't have the space.


I love the colours. I was reading some reviews somewhere this morning and the pictures make it look immaculate. It's head mold is a bit strange but it kinda fits in with the eerie purple its got. The brownish version of it doesn't quite do the same for me and the black looks nice but I would've probably passed.

I'll definitely be mindful of giving it time then. Funnily enough, your warning actually makes me even more excited. I like the fact that these will be quite a challenge and take time. TFs are like 10-15 minute things at most. It's kinda mindboggling to think that something can take so long to get. Not to mention I'm a sucker for the grooves and hooks, even if i miss them b/c they add layers of nuance to a toy.


I think the EX-Gear is cool, I was really pleased by it, but it doesn't really transform as such. It's used as a flying armor that folds up and can interact with a VF-25 Frontier Valk.


Yuppers, knew about it not transforming but i saw images of it a few posts back and after a little more research and some stellar pictures on Macrossworld, I'm really excited about it. It's like a new armoured character that's not Iron Man. Will the other pilots get their own unique suits or did they all have the same ones in the cartoons?


BTW, have you watched any Macross series or movies? :rolleyes:

Nope, not one. Don't think I will either as I barely have enough time as it is most days. Are they worth seeing though? My memories of Anime tend to be seeing people watch Bleach and Dragonball and me shuddering. And it seems like there's a lot to follow up on. if I were to watch it, I wouldn't know where to start.


Yeah, the Sv-51 is a really tricky and fragile piece. It does look good fully loaded in valkyrie mode however (although space consuming because of its large wingspan). But just be very careful if you are thinking of getting one of its arch-enemies, the VF-0S/A - these are some of the worst quality controlled valks ever released. Read about it on macrossworld if you need convincing.

[QUOTE=Tober;132886]I assume the $124 price is from Overdrive?

Yuppers. Never thought I'd be buying from there after the couple of TF orders but lo and behold they had it. I almost went and bought the RVF-25 and VF-25G but then realised they weren't in stock. Unfortunately, well, fortunately maybe.

I was really surprised by the price. I was just more browsing then anything and had to check a couple of times to see if I hadn't goofballed. Then I paid and something happened on Overdrive's end where I didn't receive order confirmation. But after an email or two that's resolved now.

I notice they have a "Macross replacement parts" in the top corner. What's that about? Is this the equivalent of Lego replacement parts?


If you want the VF-25F Alto without armor or super packs, BBTS has him at $124 US (plus $34 shipping). Thats the cheapest you'll find online for the standalone. So cheap in fact, that I ordered him so my armor pack will actually have a valk to attach to. :D

How much are the super and armor packs alone? I'm keen on them separate but the best bargain i've seen so far is on eBay at about $430 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400048818488&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And an observation, it's quite funny searching for Macross toys on eBay. Normally for TFs I use price lowest to look for my items. For Macross, I start at price highest. :rolleyes:

Dkaris
6th October 2009, 03:51 AM
Just a quick question, the 1/60 bandai Ozma lee version of the VF-25, I've seen on some sites it comes with the armored packs which really give it some bulk, now im guessing that the packs and extra armor can be removed? Am I right, or are they attached to the figure and cant come off?

STL
6th October 2009, 07:01 AM
Just a quick question, the 1/60 bandai Ozma lee version of the VF-25, I've seen on some sites it comes with the armored packs which really give it some bulk, now im guessing that the packs and extra armor can be removed? Am I right, or are they attached to the figure and cant come off?

Yeap, that's correct. THe VF-25S is the base model and then there are two sets of armor, I believe. The "Super" and then the "armor". The super retains to a larger degree its angular and lean physique but the "armor" bulks it up with an arsenal. For the VF-25S, the bulk up armor comes as part of a larger set already whcih goes for about $200 USD.

Tober
6th October 2009, 07:49 AM
Yeah, Nora's colors are nice, adds to the mysterious, menacing appearence. I went for the Ivanov because it looked a bit more realistic but looks a bit dull and hides the detail - It was a hard choice.


Will the other pilots get their own unique suits or did they all have the same ones in the cartoons?

Nothing has been confirmed yet. I can't remember there being any differences between the suits except for the colors.


Nope, not one. Don't think I will either as I barely have enough time as it is most days. Are they worth seeing though? My memories of Anime tend to be seeing people watch Bleach and Dragonball and me shuddering. And it seems like there's a lot to follow up on. if I were to watch it, I wouldn't know where to start.

Maybe give 'Macross: Do You Remember Love (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Macross-Do-You-Remember-Love-Japanese-Movie-Subbed_W0QQitemZ130332122627QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item1e58665e03&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177)' a try. It's the OVA version of the first series (which was also the first part of Robotech if you watched that). There is no local release so you need to import a copy or download (it's legal). Otherwise I should be able to hook you up. There is a dubbed version called Clash of the Bionoids which should be avoided - it's a terrible rehash.



Yuppers. Never thought I'd be buying from there after the couple of TF orders but lo and behold they had it. I almost went and bought the RVF-25 and VF-25G but then realised they weren't in stock. Unfortunately, well, fortunately maybe.

What happened with your TF orders? They have been reporting problems with their PayPal checkout system tho...


I notice they have a "Macross replacement parts" in the top corner. What's that about? Is this the equivalent of Lego replacement parts?

Yamato had a series of problems with their releases. Namely the Megazone 23 Garland first release and the Macross Zero VF-0A and VF-0S releases. The valks have an inherrent fault where the sholder/arm section will break eventually due to the wrong type of plastic being used. Replacement parts have been made available. The Yamato valks are also fragile so they offer replacements for some parts if they are available. If you have a breakage I would recommend using HLJ for replacements tho - Overdrive take ages to respond.


How much are the super and armor packs alone? I'm keen on them separate but the best bargain i've seen so far is on eBay at about $430 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400048818488&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And an observation, it's quite funny searching for Macross toys on eBay. Normally for TFs I use price lowest to look for my items. For Macross, I start at price highest. :rolleyes:

They were about USD$72 from Overdrive and F2F when they were released - they were store exclusives. I don't know how much they go for now.

Fungal Infection
6th October 2009, 07:50 AM
The same seller you've listed has the Alto listed with both super and armoured packs for $335 US:

Linky (http://cgi.ebay.com/Macross-Chogokin-VF-25F-Valkyrie-SuperMessisah-Armoured_W0QQitemZ400074792585QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d2650de89&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)

The original retail (purchased direct from the bandai webshop) price of the super and armoured packs was about $85 Aus (price I paid). Overdrive had the armoured pack on pre-order several months back at $110 US. Now, you're looking at over $130 US each at minimum. I only know this because I have 2 sets of the Alto armour (courtesy of my sister-in-law's family in Japan) and was researching to see how much I could sell the second set for. But I think I'll hold onto it for the time being. If you want the Alto and super armour for a decent price and don't mind different colours to the original, you could wait for the reissue version due in November. I was originally going to go for it until I realised that Alto is coloured differently. So now I'm content to have 2 supers in the VF-25G and RVF-25, and 2 armoured in the VF-25F and VF-25S (still to purchase).




How much are the super and armor packs alone? I'm keen on them separate but the best bargain i've seen so far is on eBay at about $430 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400048818488&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

And an observation, it's quite funny searching for Macross toys on eBay. Normally for TFs I use price lowest to look for my items. For Macross, I start at price highest. :rolleyes:

Dkaris
6th October 2009, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the confirmation.

By the way, if anyone is looking for the first series of macross its at JB for $40. its in japanese though so be ready for some reading as well =]

*edit: Just found the ozma with super parts at toy wave for $250 -
http://www.toy-wave.com/eng/detail.php?id=11552&table=384

Just wondering if anyone knows what the fastest shipping method is with these guys? I've seen their shipping table, but i dont see anything for ems =/ so im guessing its their speed post to aus which is delivered in 2-4 days at $18.40 USD/kg?

STL
6th October 2009, 06:37 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what the fastest shipping method is with these guys? I've seen their shipping table, but i dont see anything for ems =/ so im guessing its their speed post to aus which is delivered in 2-4 days at $18.40 USD/kg?

Yup, that's their EMS. They're pretty good, I've bought from there before.




Maybe give 'Macross: Do You Remember Love (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Macross-Do-You-Remember-Love-Japanese-Movie-Subbed_W0QQitemZ130332122627QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item1e58665e03&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177)' a try. It's the OVA version of the first series (which was also the first part of Robotech if you watched that). There is no local release so you need to import a copy or download (it's legal). Otherwise I should be able to hook you up. There is a dubbed version called Clash of the Bionoids which should be avoided - it's a terrible rehash.



Hook me up, scotty!





What happened with your TF orders? They have been reporting problems with their PayPal checkout system tho...


Sorry, to clarify I meant that the last purchase I made with them was TFs. the only problem I had was yesterday when I placed the order. Hopefully its the last time.


I was originally going to go for it until I realised that Alto is coloured differently.

How different is it? I tried looking for it but couldn't find something that showed those colours. I'm pretty impressed by the current colour scheme so it'd have to be a lot to convince me otherwise.

I'm so trigger-itchy but I feel that b/c Tober pointed how long these take to appreciate, I should really separate my purchases to really give each time. What to do, what to do..

Fungal Infection
6th October 2009, 06:59 PM
How different is it? I tried looking for it but couldn't find something that showed those colours. I'm pretty impressed by the current colour scheme so it'd have to be a lot to convince me otherwise.


According to HLJ's listing:

This set packs a newly colored version of the 2008-released DX Chogokin VF-25F Messiah Valkyrie Alto Custom together with personalized Super Parts attachments and a custom S.M.S. display stand. All three items were previously released (the latter two were originally sold as a Tamashii Web Shop exclusive) and are now offered in a single box set finished in renewed coloring based on its appearance in the "Macross Frontier The Movie: The False Songstress." Color differences include a slight blue-gray tone on the Valkyrie's white body, fading red tone, dark metallic tone joints, light-gray Super Parts, and the S.M.S. logo on the display base (previously all black) is now fully painted. (The photos below are of the previously released Valkyrie with the Tamashii Web Shop exclusive Super Parts.)

This was confirmed on the macrossworld forums by a forum member who saw it on display at a japanese toy show.

Lord_Zed
6th October 2009, 09:07 PM
While the main appeal of Valkyries is their awesome designs, now you have one I can't understand not watching the series as well. Otherwise you wont know how to pose your Valkyries! :)

For STL I recomend Macross Zero, as it is fairly short and standalone and a prequel, even though it was made some 20 years after the first Macross.

Just take a look at this sample from the first episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVecgkO_Ynk&feature=related) if your not convinced you should watch this.

I'd like to see Jetfire do that!!! :p

And the SV-51 Ivanov and Nora types proceed to kick ass in episode 2. My SV-51 is currently in gerwalk mode with the battaroid head extended like a periscope and the arms hoisting the gun above ala the trench fight in the second epsiode.


Yeah, but you're Lord_Zed! It's just a disclaimer as it's kinda like jumping into the deep end. :p


True I suppose, I do manhandle my exspensive toys regularly. Otherwise I don't feel like I get the full value from them. True they may break, but every toy has it's time.

So far only the old Yamato 1/100 VF11b and the Toynami Legios have though.


Yeah, Nora's colors are nice, adds to the mysterious, menacing appearence. I went for the Ivanov because it looked a bit more realistic but looks a bit dull and hides the detail - It was a hard choice.


Me to and I spent at least half an hour in a japanese hobbystore comparing them. Aside from the sleek predatory menacing look, I went with Ivanov because he was Fockers mentor, and one hell of an ace.

Dkaris
7th October 2009, 10:37 PM
Kind of wondering if its worth getting the ozma with the super parts, i sure think they look better than the armored parts, but cant really find any reviews regarding them. Anyone got any idea what their like?

Fungal Infection
7th October 2009, 11:22 PM
I hope you have deep pockets because an Ozma with super parts will send you broke considering the super parts were a webshop exclusive (read: rare).

Dkaris
8th October 2009, 01:04 AM
yea just got a nice pay cheque. i found the ozma and supers for $250 usd

you people prolly hate me by now for asking so many queestions, but ive heard the VF-0S has some bad plastic in the shoulders, but apparently there was a re release whre this issue is fixed. How can you tell if your buying a re release? and has the bad plastic issue really beeh fixed?

Saintly
8th October 2009, 08:09 PM
OK, I'm getting confused with the webshop exclusive... so if one was to buy this -> http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN956817 (DX Chogokin VF25S Armored Messiah), would one still need to purchase the bandai webshop exclusive?? or there isn't any point?

Or is the webshop exclusive for Alto's VF25F??

Fungal Infection
8th October 2009, 08:21 PM
As far as armour/super packs are concerned, there are 3 webshop exclusives:

1. VF-25F Alto Armoured set
2. VF-25S Ozma Super Pack
3. VF-25F Alto Super Pack

The link you've listed is a VF-25S Ozma packed together with an Armour set. So there is no need to buy anything else unless of course you were after the Super Pack in which case, yes, you'd have to make an additional purchase. Alto's valkyrie is the only one which does not come packed with any extra armour/super packs. Pop over my place if you wanna check them out Francis. :)

Fungal Infection
8th October 2009, 08:30 PM
yea just got a nice pay cheque. i found the ozma and supers for $250 usd

you people prolly hate me by now for asking so many queestions, but ive heard the VF-0S has some bad plastic in the shoulders, but apparently there was a re release whre this issue is fixed. How can you tell if your buying a re release? and has the bad plastic issue really beeh fixed?

Yup, the VF-0 series valks have very poor quality control and the shoulder and elbow joints are the main culprits. The right shoulder on my VF-0A broke after about 5 transformations. My VF-0S and VF-0A Shin has yet to show any breakage or stress marks however *figures crossed*. There was apparently a revised version released but there is no sure fire way of telling which version you'll get as there are no markings on the box as such. Overdrive offer a spares service for yamato valkyries and the shoulder/elbow joints are often the most requested part so obviously yamato are aware that the issue is a major one. Its a case of playing lotto unfortunately. :(

Tober
8th October 2009, 08:40 PM
you people prolly hate me by now for asking so many queestions, but ive heard the VF-0S has some bad plastic in the shoulders, but apparently there was a re release whre this issue is fixed. How can you tell if your buying a re release? and has the bad plastic issue really beeh fixed?

What Fungal said. If you're worried about the sholders email HLJ or Overdrive or whoever you're ordering from first and ask if it's a revised release. They will know what you are talking aobut. ;)

From memory tho the only sure-fire way of getting a fixed release is to buy the VF-0S with booster... or something. I would have to re-check.

Saintly
8th October 2009, 09:14 PM
Thanks Fungal. You've kinda made it clearer... isn't the Armored Ozma, just a glorified Super Ozma. Am I mistaken?

The DX Chogokin range is slightly out of my budget at the moment. But for the moment, am collecting the 1/72 range.

Maybe after the movie (2009/11/21), I'll get into that DX range :D

Fungal Infection
8th October 2009, 09:28 PM
Thanks Fungal. You've kinda made it clearer... isn't the Armored Ozma, just a glorified Super Ozma. Am I mistaken?

The DX Chogokin range is slightly out of my budget at the moment. But for the moment, am collecting the 1/72 range.

Maybe after the movie (2009/11/21), I'll get into that DX range :D

It is glorified, but on a massive scale!! The amount of extra firepower on the armoured version is astounding. The super pack only adds thrusters and armour whereas the armour pack adds thrusters, cannons, missiles and armour as well. Its like a super pack on steroids!

Saintly
8th October 2009, 09:48 PM
It is glorified, but on a massive scale!! The amount of extra firepower on the armoured version is astounding. The super pack only adds thrusters and armour whereas the armour pack adds thrusters, cannons, missiles and armour as well. Its like a super pack on steroids!

yeah, so technically one wouldn't need the webshop exclusive Ozma super pack, right? :P

Dkaris
8th October 2009, 10:50 PM
thanks for the info on the OS. I just got promoted at work which means more hours which means more money, so i should get some more valks soon. I'm really looking forward to the max and milia VF-!J's and maybe even an ozma or michael. I wiish there was a release date for the max and milia's, not just "october" =[

Tober
8th October 2009, 11:11 PM
Bandai 1/72 Movie VF-25 Model Kit

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_30.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=30.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_026.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=026.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_025.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=025.jpg)


Bandai 1/72 VF-27 Model Kit

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_26.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=26.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_27.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=27.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_29.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=29.jpg)


WAVE 1/100 Monster MkII Model Kit

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_wave_100mon.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=wave_100mon.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_wave_100mon2.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=wave_100mon2.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_wave_100mon3.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=wave_100mon3.jpg)

Lord_Zed
9th October 2009, 11:07 AM
Both that 25 and 27 look a bit different than they did in the series, the 27 seems to have more blue purple on the body work. Is that an Alto armoured pack, I wonder? Looks a bit more sleek than the usual one, but where are the missiles?

I suppose they will release 1/60 versions, seeing as how they will probably require minimum tooling and a repaint.

Saintly
9th October 2009, 11:23 AM
Bandai 1/72 Movie VF-25 Model Kit
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_30.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=30.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_026.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=026.jpg) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_025.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=025.jpg)


hmmm, a new fast pack??

Dkaris
10th October 2009, 07:14 PM
one thing that confuses me about overdrive is that a number of their valks still show pre order info, i kinda dont know if their stuff has been released or not.

Also, is anyone picking up the low vis 1S?

Fungal Infection
11th October 2009, 01:16 PM
yeah, so technically one wouldn't need the webshop exclusive Ozma super pack, right? :P

That depends on what you like - the armour pack and super park are both dramatically different to each other. They dont share any parts with each other whatsoever. So if you like a sleek armoured valk, get the super pack. If you like big, bulked up, heavily armoured valks, get the armoured set.

Tober
12th October 2009, 12:30 AM
one thing that confuses me about overdrive is that a number of their valks still show pre order info, i kinda dont know if their stuff has been released or not.

Also, is anyone picking up the low vis 1S?

A number of valks are on pre-order status still. Any in particular?

I'm not getting a Low Vis VF-1S but it was released a few days ago.

Dkaris
12th October 2009, 05:07 PM
A number of valks are on pre-order status still. Any in particular?

I'm not getting a Low Vis VF-1S but it was released a few days ago.


Really after the 1/60 milia and max valks. They look pretty awesome. Especially Milia's. I think ill pick up the low visibility focker valk.
[exec lame excuse for buying macross figures]I just started working 7 hour day shifts, 5 days a week. massive shock to the system. [/exec lame excuse]

Fungal Infection
14th October 2009, 08:30 PM
Got my VF-25F today so now my armour pack has a donor! :D

VF-25F standalone:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25a.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25b.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25c.jpg

With armoured parts attached:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25d.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25e.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25f.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q305/Redboost77/vf25g.jpg

I actually like the armoured pack much more now than when I first got it - I suppose the colours of the VF-25G I had it on really dulled the look of the armoured pack but against the white of the VF-25F, it looks really good. Also, I've found the pack seems to fit more snug on the VF-25F even though both valkyries are essentially the same, bar the head. The valkyrie also seems more stable fitted to its "owner" and I could actually get it to stand on its own without having to pose the wing boosters outwards. Now to get the VF-25S and I'll be happy. :D

Lord_Zed
15th October 2009, 12:54 PM
Very nice Fungal. Say what people will about Bandai's VF25's they are still fun toys IMO.

I'd totaly get the armoured pack for the Alto 25 if it weren't webstore exclusive and so exspensive. :(

Tober
15th October 2009, 12:57 PM
Hobby Search have the DX Luca unit at 11050 yen (35% off)
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10080159

Dkaris
16th October 2009, 06:08 PM
Low vis VF-1S arrived today, pics to come =]

Dkaris
17th October 2009, 12:19 AM
btw does anyone know a good method for applying the decals?

Tober
19th October 2009, 08:32 PM
btw does anyone know a good method for applying the decals?

I never apply the decals actually :o


Uppdated pic of the upcoming 1/2000 SDF-1

http://www.over-drive-inc.com/overdrive-blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/P1200868.jpg

STL
19th October 2009, 10:44 PM
Is that the final colours? I remember a darker scheme and I preferred that.


btw does anyone know a good method for applying the decals?

I'm with Tober too. Though I only just got my 1st 1/60 in the mail today, the SV-51 Nora is just beautiful already w/out it so I see no point in the decals. Maybe down the line with some other purchases but if they look as sleek as the Nora out of box, I can't see myself touching them. I hate G1 stickers and really have only ever stuck with them for the added detail and accuracy they gave.


I've received both my Ex-Gear and Nora. I haven't transformed the Nora yet, too little time tonight but I am setting tmrw night for the challenge.

Today, I played with the Ex-Gear. Love it to bits. A few things that irked me are all the parts but really I think those issues are that I'm not use to the Jap mentality of heaps of detachable parts. The real quibble I have it is with the articulation in the shoulders/legs and the crotch piece. Would like to get the other three too if they appear.

And thanks again Tober/Fungal. This thread was around a long time and I was always in and out but I can safely say now that I'm a Macross fan for life. The Nora epitomises everything I'd love a TF to be, well so far in alt mode anyway. The sheer perfection and attention detail are unparalleled. Perhaps it's that there are few TF jets of this caliber but I can't think of many TF alt modes that would rival this just on the level of detail and intricacy.

kurdt_the_goat
19th October 2009, 11:07 PM
I recently applied the stickers to my VF-1A, and i think it makes a huge difference! I used to be anti-sticker, mainly because i wished as a kid that they wouldn't fall off, leave residue or become crooked. But, these days the stickers are better quality and my placing skills are much better!

I just bend the sticker page and then carefully use a scalpel to peel them off and help to place. You'll want to avoid poking at the edges with the blade though, particularly stickers that have to go onto a dark background. Then use a cotton wool bud or toothpick to gently make sure it's stuck down properly!

I have read that you can dip stickers in water so they don't stick straight away, but i haven't tried it myself - i imagine it also makes it harder to get them in the right spot!

Dkaris
20th October 2009, 08:59 PM
my brand new low vis VF-1S. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/scybale/DSCF0002.jpg

Lord_Zed
20th October 2009, 10:33 PM
That Low Vis looks pretty cool, with the dollar up I think it might be time for me to add a new Valk to my collection.

I've only realy placed stickers on my Valkyries once on an old 1/60, and I customised that one with black panel lines etc. Came out ok in the end, but overall it's not that big a deal. I usualy just apply the main ones, unit markings, Koenig Monsters painted eyes etc, if they don't have them already.




And thanks again Tober/Fungal. This thread was around a long time and I was always in and out but I can safely say now that I'm a Macross fan for life. The Nora epitomises everything I'd love a TF to be, well so far in alt mode anyway. The sheer perfection and attention detail are unparalleled. Perhaps it's that there are few TF jets of this caliber but I can't think of many TF alt modes that would rival this just on the level of detail and intricacy.

Bingo! Exspensive as the Macross items are they make most TF's look like ...well... kids toys. Mr Kawamori's designs are inspired if you ask me (I also collect his line art books to actualy), and most of the recent releases capture all the subtle details that makes Valkyries so cool.

Also they kick butt with their crazy hyperactive missile dodging devil may care flying. :)

Tober
22nd October 2009, 09:20 AM
A 1/1 scale Valkyrie that catches pretty asian women falling out of nowhere:

DECULTURE!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfuM91IyaDk&feature=player_embedded)

ok, it's an ad for a pachinko game.

Tober
24th October 2009, 01:13 PM
New pics of the Bandai 1/60 DX VF-27

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/dx-vf-27.jpg

Dkaris
24th October 2009, 02:56 PM
Any idea when that vf 27 is due out.

Fungal Infection
25th October 2009, 01:23 PM
New pics of the Bandai 1/60 DX VF-27

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/dx-vf-27.jpg

Damn, thats hot. Added to the shopping list. :D

Tober
25th October 2009, 03:29 PM
Any idea when that vf 27 is due out.

It hasn't been announced and no pre-orders have opened yet. It usually takes about 3-6 months from magazine prototype pics to make it to market so I waoud guess 2nd quarter next year.

Lord_Zed
25th October 2009, 08:37 PM
It hasn't been announced and no pre-orders have opened yet. It usually takes about 3-6 months from magazine prototype pics to make it to market so I waoud guess 2nd quarter next year.

While I'm eager for the 27 I'm rather gald to hear that. Had way to much Macross (and more to come before year end) assaulting my wallet already this year.:)

kurdt_the_goat
25th October 2009, 10:29 PM
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/10/non-gundam-updates-from-hobby-magazines.html seems to think it's due February 2010

Dkaris
26th October 2009, 10:23 PM
Just pre ordered the milia VF-1J. god im gonna be poor. im so glad i dont have a credit card.

Tober
28th October 2009, 07:45 AM
FYI: Amiami.com Now Accepting International Orders. (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=6103)

15-25% off alot of Macross orders.

Lord_Zed
28th October 2009, 12:21 PM
I was going to put in an order with Overdrive this week, hmmm maybe not now.

Do these guys charge when you order, or when the item is shipped?

Tober
28th October 2009, 12:33 PM
I was going to put in an order with Overdrive this week, hmmm maybe not now.

Do these guys charge when you order, or when the item is shipped?

I placed an order and recieved a confirmation email stating that they would send me the shipping and PayPal invoice soon.

Essentially they charge when you order, and don't hold instock orders till pre-orders arrive or anything like that.

I think they actually charge you when the shipment arrives tho, along with the shipping charge. Will wait and see..

Tober
28th October 2009, 07:55 PM
Yamato unpainted 1/60 VF-1 Valkyrie

8295jpy retail. December release.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/PH1256106553.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/001-2.jpg

Possibly for customisers who want to apply their own color schemes or schemes that arn't available... like Skyfire maybe...

kurdt_the_goat
29th October 2009, 01:03 AM
Get your wallets out for the 1/2000 SDF-1!

http://www.yamato-toys.com/prg_data/PH1256535328.jpg
Bigger Pics: 1 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/a/001.jpg) 2 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/b/001.jpg) 3 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/c/001.jpg) 4 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/d/001.jpg) 5 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/e/001.jpg) 6 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/f/001.jpg) 7 (http://www.yamato-toys.com/photo_data/viewzoom/09/1523sdf/g/001.jpg)

Then put them away again ... only 210,000Y! (http://www.yamato-toys.com/ec/items/detail.php?gid=1523). And on top of that, it's a Yamato web shop exclusive...

Tober
29th October 2009, 01:18 AM
Get your wallets out for the 1/2000 SDF-1!

Then put them away again ... only 210,000Y! (http://www.yamato-toys.com/ec/items/detail.php?gid=1523). And on top of that, it's a Yamato web shop exclusive...

Yeah, that's really hard to take. :(

I'm trying to work out weather it's just for the Heavy Duty Resin mold or if there will be a 'proper' toy release as well.

Gonna be difficult to come up with that sort of money by the pre-order deadline.:confused:

Tober
29th October 2009, 01:27 AM
I'm trying to work out weather it's just for the Heavy Duty Resin mold or if there will be a 'proper' toy release as well.



Apparently is is a limited edition prototype. :rolleyes:

Lord_Zed
29th October 2009, 12:33 PM
only 210,000Y![/URL]. And on top of that, it's a Yamato web shop exclusive...

About double what I excpected, and even at what I excpected it was to much for me. :(

Tober
30th October 2009, 06:27 PM
I got this news from a collector in Japan that's a member of the Yamato Fan Club members only site:


As for the Yamato 1/2000 SDF-1 I'm kinda lost for words about the price.

It seems everyone's missing this information but on the Fan Club only page for it says quote "This is a prototype model kit of a item that will be released in 2010" end quote. Problem is a completed and painted version is sure to cost more then a simple kit. So anyway you should have a chance to order a completed one sometime next year.

and


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/ttl.jpg

On this image it basically says on the top 'Prototype Type Model Kit to be released ahead of completed version'.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/lead.jpg

On the second line of this image it reads 'A over 400 part model kit will be released ahead of the completed version that will be released in 2010.'

And thus the plot thickens...

Tober
30th October 2009, 11:03 PM
Revoltech's transforming VF-1A:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1951/1256895791805.jpg

Lord_Zed
31st October 2009, 12:18 AM
Not exactly the prettiest thing the Revoltech Valk, however if the price is no more than a regular rebbot Revoltech it could be good.

Looks like they are releasing a UFO Grendizer too, another classic Giant robot I'd like a collctible toy of, without spending to much. Yay this is one of the reasons why I'm a big fan of Kaiyodo of late!

STL
31st October 2009, 10:09 AM
That VF-27 looks awesome.

Could I ask if these guys are model kits or complete figures?
No.1 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MACROSS-1-5000-ROBOTECH-SDF-1-MOVIE-COLOR-FIGURE-NISB_W0QQitemZ270343186520QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_To ys_Hobbies_Robots_Space_Toys?hash=item3ef1b5a858)

No.2 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wave-Macross-1-5000-SDF-1-Macross-Movie-Color-Edition_W0QQitemZ250507675330QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a536bc6c2)

The one from HK looks so cheap but I'm wary of just buying it cos the last time i did do something impulse i got a model kit. :(

Tober
31st October 2009, 11:07 AM
That VF-27 looks awesome.

Could I ask if these guys are model kits or complete figures?
No.1 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MACROSS-1-5000-ROBOTECH-SDF-1-MOVIE-COLOR-FIGURE-NISB_W0QQitemZ270343186520QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_To ys_Hobbies_Robots_Space_Toys?hash=item3ef1b5a858)

No.2 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wave-Macross-1-5000-SDF-1-Macross-Movie-Color-Edition_W0QQitemZ250507675330QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a536bc6c2)

The one from HK looks so cheap but I'm wary of just buying it cos the last time i did do something impulse i got a model kit. :(

It's a fully transformable toy. Those auctions are somewhat overpriced tho, and there is the real possibility of Yamato releasing their 1/2000 version next year, but no one knows what the price for it is yet.

The WAVE SDF-1 is small too - the main body stands at about 14cm tall.

There's also Bandai's Macross Quarter (http://www.amiami.com/shop/?set=english&vgForm=ProductInfo&sku=TOY-RBT-0870&template=default/product/e_display.html) from Frontier which comes out Dec 31st, but that's a different version again...

Tober
31st October 2009, 12:04 PM
Looks like a toy version of Yamato's 1/2000 SDF-1 is definately NOT coming out next year:

From the same source as yesterday:


I want to correct the info I sent you yesterday about the SDF-1. I got some new info yesterday night and wanted to correct myself.

They've me told to tell everyone that even though the Yamato web site states there wil be a completed model out next year it's almost certain not to be released at least in 2010 and maybe never. The current preordering is for the December shipping ones so they should be taking orders for a few more months.

For what it is they told to tell everyone it's a good kit. Depends on how you take it but to some people it'll be worth the price. They can't say everyone should buy it but 10 years down the road you'll think it's worth it.

REALLY DISAPPOINTING! :mad:

Tober
2nd November 2009, 09:57 PM
Couple more pics of the upcoming Bandai DX Quarter:

http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/10/dx-...-images_30.html (http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/10/dx-chogokin-macross-quarter-new-images_30.html)

Including with the flight deck holstered!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/4057592284_595cbe7590.jpg

And full color minis:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/4057592422_16c01f0ba4.jpg

Dkaris
6th November 2009, 08:07 PM
Got my Milia VF-1J yesterday. I dunno if it is a one off or if Yamato QC is going down the drain but im not a happy camper. The one valk i really really wanted and i have pieces falling off in my hands. I think ill stick to collecting armored core kits.

Tober
6th November 2009, 08:41 PM
Got my Milia VF-1J yesterday. I dunno if it is a one off or if Yamato QC is going down the drain but im not a happy camper. The one valk i really really wanted and i have pieces falling off in my hands. I think ill stick to collecting armored core kits.

OK, I'll bite... what's wrong with it?

And yes, Armored Core mechs are Kawamori designs too. :cool:

Dkaris
6th November 2009, 09:09 PM
i dont want anyone to "bite" theres genuine QC issues.

the hook that holds the back piece into the other back piece when in battroid mode, where the tail fins are, snapped off before i even touched it.

i had to glue the fin back on the left leg, and the white stripe on the chest plate is covered in red over spray

Tober
6th November 2009, 09:40 PM
Who did you order from? Overdrive and HLJ have parts replacement services for Yamato... guess why :rolleyes:.

That is pretty disasterous but I haven't heard of any other people on MacrossWorld having problems with the M&M sets. And I would, they can complain about anything and everything simultaniously.

Dkaris
6th November 2009, 11:53 PM
overdrive. i really cant be bothered emailing and ordering and all that again, ill just fix it my self and try paint it up a bit better.

its true though, ive never read as many middle age men whine like they do on macrossworld

Lord_Zed
7th November 2009, 12:24 AM
Macross World is one of those forums in which half the threads are a complete downer, I just go there for pictures. Only the 40k/ Fantasy section of Wargammer AU is as bad.

I pray this forum never treads that path.

Sorry to hear about you Valk, for the most part I've had fairly good experiences with Yamato Valks, (other than the horribly flawed 1/100 VF11b) though I do worry about a few of mine deteriorating.

gamblor916
7th November 2009, 12:00 PM
This just arrived from HLJ. Very nice cg images and cutaways, plus there's a lot of detail and info.
Very handy for building or upgrading VF-1s.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9596/p1010869z.jpg

kurdt_the_goat
9th November 2009, 04:24 PM
I sure would like to see Meister-levels of custom work on a Macross toy Gamblor!

After playing around some more with my 1/60 VF-1A, i'm keen to get another toy of this calibur.

But - what to choose! I don't mind the VF22S Max or Gamlin schemes, and the VF-11B got great reviews, so the 11C is an option, although it looks a bit plain and lacking tampo's for the price. And then the VF-27 is looking pretty cool too!

Just going off the variants of those that are already out, would someone care to recommend their favourite & why? As much as i'd love to, i think i can only spring for one as long as i'm still married :P

Tober
9th November 2009, 09:39 PM
overdrive. i really cant be bothered emailing and ordering and all that again, ill just fix it my self and try paint it up a bit better.

its true though, ive never read as many middle age men whine like they do on macrossworld

Couldn't hurt tho really, your prerogative :)


This just arrived from HLJ. Very nice cg images and cutaways, plus there's a lot of detail and info.
Very handy for building or upgrading VF-1s.

Agreed :) It's amazing really that they found so much stuff to write about, even if it is in Japanese - although there are lots of cgi and model photos in there too.


I sure would like to see Meister-levels of custom work on a Macross toy Gamblor!

After playing around some more with my 1/60 VF-1A, i'm keen to get another toy of this calibur.

But - what to choose! I don't mind the VF22S Max or Gamlin schemes, and the VF-11B got great reviews, so the 11C is an option, although it looks a bit plain and lacking tampo's for the price. And then the VF-27 is looking pretty cool too!

Just going off the variants of those that are already out, would someone care to recommend their favourite & why? As much as i'd love to, i think i can only spring for one as long as i'm still married :P

The 11-B is great but it's also very simlar to the VF-1 transformation and one of the simpler Valks - not that it's a bad thing, it's possibly my favourite. The VF-22 Valks are reasonably complex without the QC issues - it has to be transformed in an exact order otherwise you have to go back a few stages to correct something and repeat. I have the 27 on order as it looks great - I'm not such a big fan of Bandai's VF-25s tho.

SV-51 - complex with occasional QC spots
VF-0A/S - really good despite needing replacement sholders
VF-19 - mine is really loose but apparently that got better with later releases.

Lord_Zed
9th November 2009, 10:03 PM
Of the higher end Yamato Valks I only have the VF-0 and the SV-51 Ivanov. The SV-51 is my favourte being such a menacing looking bird. The VF-0 is pretty nice to, though the shoulders scare me a bit, they have no visible stress marks or anything else, but the rumours spook me.

Regarding the VF-22 and VF-11, I don't have either. I'm planning to get the VF-22 in Max Jenius colours, cause it's Max, and blue and gold make a good contrast. I like the VF-11C to, however I must admit the reason I'd be getting the variant colour schemes, is because I had the Macross Plus 1/100 versions of both toys, so it feels less like buying the same toy that way. Macross Plus is still a billion times cooler than Macross 7 as far as the anime goes.

I'd just get the Valkyrie that you think is coolest and get you're favourte colour scheme. That's how I got my SV-51, I spent ages in a japanese hobby store trying to decide between it, the Nora Type, The VF-0 and the YF-19. It has a few minor isues but I've never regreted getting it.

kurdt_the_goat
9th November 2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah, i have an original release YF-19 but the left shoudler is broken (you might remember, hereticpoo had it up for sale). No biggy since i would probably only display in fighter mode regardless - but i've been meaning to get my wife to speak to Yamato about a replacement (annnnd we just realised Yamato's website doesn't have email contacts... so we'll have to call!) The fighter mode is awesome but at least this one, the other 2 modes are pretty loose.

Although i like the SV-51 design, i'd feel more comfortable getting a newer release since Yamato's track record has been getting better recently. I think i like the VF-11 the best, but like a few of the people on Macrossworld, i would much prefer the VFX Raven scheme:

http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossga/vf-11b-vfx2/vf-11b-vfx2-fighter.gif

Not sure of the likelihood of this one getting a release though...? It's not like Yamato are shy of repainting, but it seems pretty obscure?