Play With This Too... [Archive] - Ozformers Transformers Club of Australia (otca.com.au)

Sky Shadow

27th October 2014, 08:08 PM

I like the idea of making action figures as Pretender homages, especially given they are saying they will give the artists full control and have interchangeable heads and hands. The art for their Bomburst and Skullgrin based figures looks promising.

Yeah - there's a Cloudburst (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1002909-play-too-astroblast.html), Grimlock (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1004407-play-too-boneyard-pretender-grimlock.html), Liquidator (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1003165-play-too-deep-earth-explorer.html) and Landmine (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1002909-play-too-astroblast-4.html#post11736593) too. And the fiction (or at least some of it) is being written by Simon Furman. Definitely one to watch.

reillyd

28th October 2014, 12:22 AM

I just read WHO the former employee is - Aaron Archer. They should never have fired that dude

Sky Shadow

28th October 2014, 09:40 AM

I just read WHO the former employee is - Aaron Archer. They should never have fired that dude

He resigned, allegedly, because "it was getting simply too difficult to make what he deemed a fun figure while dealing with things like rising plastic costs and price efficiency".

Hilariously that was immediately followed by, "As far as third parties are concerned, Hasbro cannot be influenced by any outside ideas for legal reasons, (he reasoned that "it wouldn't make sense to steal from someone who was stealing [from us]"). Hasbro does monitor the products for legality's sake though, Aaron said they have a binder (a big one by this point) that catalogues all the unofficial toys to monitor them in case of legal injunctions or trademark violations. On a more personal note, Archer said that the Third party companies can make some talented figures, but wishes that they would sell more original transforming toys then trying to profit off of a pre-existing franchise."

And "Aaron Archer is no longer an acting employee of Hasbro, but still does freelance toy design for the company. The latest one he said he worked on was flip and change grimlock, not even the design but just the concept of what he wanted the toy to do (I want it to go like this, then that, then zoop.) someone else designed the toy"

Also, he "really doesn't like the 3p's. calls it IP theft."

From here (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/997302-aaron-archers-statements-toy-design-tfcon-2014-a.html), just two months ago.

That said, I think Play With This Too is primarily Rik Alvarez - Archer might just be doing some design work.

liegeprime

28th October 2014, 01:14 PM

Sky Shadow

28th October 2014, 01:21 PM

hmmm. I like the Pretenders... so will these shells be poseable then? I wonder if the Starscream shell can fit the current Legends Starscream which for me is the counterpart for the CHUGUR line for Pretender starscream for it's sizing :D. I really like that mould (legends Screamer). So if that can indeed fit in without a prob then Wohooo. Just hope this are static bricks with fat torosos to fit the minifigure, coz really, it's 2014 already surely the toy tech has gone a long way. :p Sometimes concept art does not translate to the finished product.....which is a shame.

I don't think they're shells, Liege - they're action figures - the Not-Transformers split apart to form armour for the 'shells'. See here (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1006048-play-too-other-creature-not-bomb-burst-blood.html) for an example. Here's Aaron Archer's Not-Octopunch (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1006165-play-too-aaron-archers-ancient-astronaut-not-octopunch.html), BTW.

Hursticon

30th October 2014, 10:22 PM

I'm really-REALLY interested in these and seeing what this "A-Team" of Hasbro Alumni is able to accomplish, it'll be really interesting to see what Simon Furman brings with his Narrative duties too. :eek:

6" Articulated, standalone figures that pay homage to the G1 Pretenders? - Bloody Oath I'm in! :cool:

Ode to a Grasshopper

31st October 2014, 09:02 PM

Yeah, I'd be up for the Decepticon Pretender homages. Those designs were actually pretty cool.

SuspectimusPrime

3rd November 2014, 12:30 PM

That A-team is so cool! Can't wait to see what their Thunderwing will be like and if they decide to do Double Pretenders! :D

Sharky

3rd November 2014, 01:02 PM

wow i like those designs...

Scaleface

1st December 2014, 06:23 AM

For those interested, I set up a wiki page for Play With This Too product and personal here:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Play_With_This_Too

It had their press releases, interviews, links to bios for all the employees and toys. You can click on any of them to see about them.

Rik Alvarez has also told me he's interested in doing interviews on podcasts about the Kickstarter as it's starting up. What podcast do you listen to that might be interested in this sort of coverage?

SuspectimusPrime

11th December 2014, 12:31 PM

Thanks Scaleface - great effort! I had a look before and browsed through some of the team's bios. Seems like there's an error on the page now?

Also, so much awesome.. Boneyard (http://tformers.com/play-with-this-toosday-boneyard-and-head-shots-vol-4-by-aaron-archer-revealed-/25357/news.html).

http://tformers.net/g/generated/25357/Play%20With%20This%20Toosday%20-%20Boneyard%20and%20Head%20Shots%20Vol.%204%20by%2 0Aaron%20Archer%20Revealed%20(1)__scaled_800.jpg

Sharky

11th December 2014, 12:59 PM

i like that boneyard

griffin

17th February 2015, 11:54 AM

He has done a little bit of art for Play With This Too...

http://playwiththistoo.com/2015/01/14/new-art-from-designer-eric-siebenaler/

That doesn't surprise me, since a lot of the people who worked on Transformers at the same time as him are the core of that new business venture. But I thought Eric might have been more involved in the year since he left Hasbro... unless he is busy with something else we don't know about.

Looking at the products page of PWTT (http://playwiththistoo.com/products/)... that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. The top half all look like Transformers characters, and they have a "Hero Mashers" design/play-element to them.
The 3rd-party businesses in Asia can get away with it because they are not known to be from ex-employees, and they are outside of the American legal jurisdiction of Hasbro... but since PWTT has several Hasbro TFs designers, if they became a success later, Hasbro could go after them with the claim that these were ideas they had while employed at Hasbro (which could use the Hero Mashers concept as proof), and as such, if they are being paid by Hasbro to deliver toy ideas during a certain time-frame and it can be proven these were first thrown around in that time, then those ideas are Hasbro property.
(the precedent is already there - the designer for Bratz dolls used to work for Mattel, and when he left and developed his own toyline through MGA, Mattel sued him/them for half a Billion dollars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratz#Legal_actions) on the claim that his first ideas for the Bratz toyline was while he was being paid to produce toy ideas for Mattel, and as such they claimed to have exclusive rights to any ideas he had during that time even if Mattel didn't use them or know about them... and after many years and many millions of dollars spent in courts, the dispute is still not resolved, and the Bratz line lost an estimated 1 Billion dollars due to the loss of momentum by retailers who saw the bad press tied to the brand and the uncertainty of recalls/refunds if the impending injunctions that prevented selling them came into effect - effectively, the money and power behind Mattel was able to destroy the strongest competitor Barbie ever had, even if Mattel end up losing the lawsuit because the Bratz brand never recovered... and Hasbro has just as much power to protect its billion-dollar brand of Transformers if it needs to stall the success of a real rival, if one ever appeared in the American market)

Deonasis

17th February 2015, 12:03 PM

^It does make you think about why they are flying so close to the sun. Aaron Archer and co would know better than most the IP legalities. Time will tell I guess..

SharkyMcShark

18th February 2015, 03:07 PM

prjkt

18th February 2015, 03:20 PM

griffin

18th February 2015, 07:09 PM

I'm amused by it mainly because of Archer's massive boohoo at TFCon last year about how terrible it was that third party companies are riding on Hasbro's coat tails by producing things similar to Transformers.

Ha... if he actually said that, that's so hypocritical for producing toys themselves that are based on Hasbro characters. Even if they aren't copies of Hasbro toys (which would be called KOs), if their toys are recognised by collectors as homages to Hasbro characters, then PWTT are doing the exact same thing as the "third party" companies if they don't have licensing from Hasbro. :rolleyes:

Sinnertwin

18th February 2015, 08:07 PM

Ha... if he actually said that, that's so hypocritical for producing toys themselves that are based on Hasbro characters. Even if they aren't copies of Hasbro toys (which would be called KOs), if their toys are recognised by collectors as homages to Hasbro characters, then PWTT are doing the exact same thing as the "third party" companies if they don't have licensing from Hasbro. :rolleyes:

he calls it theft. Pot. Kettle. Black.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A0mxP_ykuro

The third party questions by Vangelus start roughly halfway through the video

Scaleface

19th February 2015, 04:04 AM

Scaleface

19th February 2015, 04:07 AM

Oh, here is the prototype ofr Desolataur:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/62/Desolataur-prototype1.jpg

Scaleface

22nd February 2015, 03:09 AM

I don't think Archer's problem was with third party figures as such, just that they were basing them on existing characters, instead of creating new ones (which seems to be what Play With This Too seems to be doing)

If I can pick apart his words a bit more than mode, he specifically called out third party companies who were making figured that just looks like better versions of Hasbro character, for instance he mentioned FansToys making MP versions of Dinobots, which are 100% copies of the forms of Dinobots Hasbro owns.

Now compare that to what he is doing with Play With This Too, where no one can say they are merely copying Hasbro character, but taking massive new takes on characters. Like Aaron Archer's Ancient Astronaut, a guy infected tenticle by an alien in a space suit. Yes, it will look like Octopunch if you squint, but it's not just G1 Octopunch upsized or more articulation.

If he was calling out the 3P companies for not being original, just making Scoria be exactly like Slag, he's NOT guilty of doing that himself.

Sinnertwin

22nd February 2015, 11:13 AM

griffin

22nd February 2015, 02:32 PM

So the argument is coming down to "where do you draw the line" on copying/replicating the original toy.
Some 3rd party stuff may well be replicating quite well, one or both modes accurately (which is the point of providing for the demand - there would be less interest if they didn't look much like the actual Transformers character)... but their engineering is still different to the original toy, otherwise they'd be noted/classed as KOs instead.

The PWTT items above are clearly based on the original toys, and I doubt there would be anyone who would claim otherwise. But like the 3rd party toys, they are not replicating the exact sculpting and engineering... so is there a line that PWTT think they haven't crossed that distinguishes them from other 3rd party toys replicating the originals?

(I'm not knocking them or specifically targeting them... I see them as being quite nice representations of the original toys, like a lot of other 3rd party toys are... but I don't agree that they have any grounds to claim that they are any different to those other 3rd party (unauthorised/unlicensed) toys that are also replicating original toys to varying degrees.)

Scaleface

23rd February 2015, 05:50 AM

For comparison

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/Stranglehold_zps2f94d0de.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/Stranglehold_zps2f94d0de.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/play-with-this-too-pwtoo-the-mighty-muscules-art-turn-around_zpsee18927f.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/play-with-this-too-pwtoo-the-mighty-muscules-art-turn-around_zpsee18927f.jpg.html)

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/G1Bomb-Burst_toy_zpsb71641bb.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/G1Bomb-Burst_toy_zpsb71641bb.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/Bloodbath-art4_zpsb29afc0a.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/Bloodbath-art4_zpsb29afc0a.jpg.html)

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/G1Skullgrin_toy_zpsefee5afd.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/G1Skullgrin_toy_zpsefee5afd.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w661/sinnertwinsphotos/Desolataur-art3_zps92ea93f3.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/sinnertwinsphotos/media/Desolataur-art3_zps92ea93f3.jpg.html)

For comparison of the toy Archer remarked has no originality n his comments, it was Scoria being and Slag... You have to admit... he is right. It's a beautiful toy, but not horribly original.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27423730d1394264434-fans-toys-ft-04-scoria-not-slag-dsc04311.jpg

Meanwhile for comparison, the toy Archer designed for Play With This Too:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/9/90/Ancientastronaut-art1.jpg

and Octopunch:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/f/f8/G1Octopunch_toy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080301133141

SuspectimusPrime

23rd February 2015, 10:39 AM

The PWTT items above are clearly based on the original toys, and I doubt there would be anyone who would claim otherwise. But like the 3rd party toys, they are not replicating the exact sculpting and engineering... so is there a line that PWTT think they haven't crossed that distinguishes them from other 3rd party toys replicating the originals?

Their products do rip off vintage designs, however they may not be in direct competition with Hasbro's current offerings.

Whilst PWTT does replicate closely to the original vintage toys, Hasbro has so far not released anything like the original Pretender toys (plastic shells partnered with inner robots) - aside from their likeness in Generations toys such as Thunderwing/Skullgrin/Black Shadow. Other 3rd party producers are releasing popular iterations that are currently or may in the near future be in direct competition with Hasbro releases (i.e. multiple third party Brainstorms/Headmasters/Dinobots/G1 Devastators/other combiners).

I really like seeing successful 3rd party producers like Fansproject leveraging their brand name in an attempt to create unique lines - such as Steel Core (original design, -master homage), Retro-Future Glacialord (original design with 80's combiner scramble city type combination), and Trianix Alpha (Dai Battles homage).

Paulbot

23rd February 2015, 10:57 AM

You'd think a moderator would have split out all the third party discussion from this thread by now.

Almost missed the important notice to check my Pretender shells.

griffin

23rd February 2015, 01:37 PM

I didn't expect a comment about a potentially similar legal situation to Bratz dolls would generate debate about the classifications of different unauthorised items, but will move posts when I find an existing topic to move them to.

griffin

24th February 2015, 02:08 PM

(moved about 13 posts from another topic, as a comment ended up generating significant conversation that ended up being off-topic for that topic)

Scaleface

26th February 2015, 10:09 AM

We like dinosaurs! Meet Terrortops. Kickstarter begins this Friday, unless we decide to pull the trigger Thursday night...

Looking at the figure, I see he's the Triceratops head they teased a while ago, and the body is a mix of bits from Desolataur and Ankhor. The Facebook page also says they will add a tail.

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10404489_351624205023776_2697702320131455096_n.jpg ?oh=f13a680e5804a24ca12c91b10781cc99&oe=55849320

Tetsuwan Convoy

26th February 2015, 12:35 PM

Their products do rip off vintage designs, however they may not be in direct competition with Hasbro's current offerings.

Whilst PWTT does replicate closely to the original vintage toys, Hasbro has so far not released anything like the original Pretender toys (plastic shells partnered with inner robots) - aside from their likeness in Generations toys such as Thunderwing/Skullgrin/Black Shadow. Other 3rd party producers are releasing popular iterations that are currently or may in the near future be in direct competition with Hasbro releases (i.e. multiple third party Brainstorms/Headmasters/Dinobots/G1 Devastators/other combiners).

I really like seeing successful 3rd party producers like Fansproject leveraging their brand name in an attempt to create unique lines - such as Steel Core (original design, -master homage), Retro-Future Glacialord (original design with 80's combiner scramble city type combination), and Trianix Alpha (Dai Battles homage).
Cast your mind back tol FPs City Commander, Not-springer/brainstorm. AT the time they were made there was no Hasbro equivalent either. Surely hasbro has the rights to the likeness of the shells as well. Archer should know that, although I suspect he doesn't care, or knows where Hasbro will draw the line. Would Hasbro even bother wih the third party products? Probably not until one gets MEGA successful.

I too like that FP have branched off a bit. Not that I buy 3rd party as it is way too expensive

Scaleface

26th February 2015, 01:28 PM

They have said they know where to draw the line, so they know what they can and cannot make.

I notice that the inner robots for their versions of Starscream and Grimlock are NOT colored like the G1 toys, so maybe that's the line. They don't want to make recognizable MAJOR characters. Hasbro probably doesn't care about toys that look like Bomb-Burst or Cloudburst, but might care about a lookalike Grimlock or Starcream, which is why they are different.

Re: Play With This Too Previews: Pretender Styled Action Figures

Postby Scaleface � 25 Feb 2015 17:41

For those looking to find specific homages, here is a quickie list:

Transformers name/PWTToo name

Bomb-Burst (Blood)/Bloodbath
Cloudburst (Phoenix)/Astroblast
Grimlock/Boneyard
Iguanus/King Adder
Landmine (Lander)/Goldminer
Metalhawk/Ironstrike
Octopunch/Ancient Astronaut
Skullgrin (Dauros)/Desolataur
Starscream/Jetstrike
Stranglehold/Mighty Muscules
Sunstorm/Flarestrike
Waverider (Diver)/Ankhor

for non-Transformers homages/PWTToo name

Centurions Max Ray/Mainsail
Dinosaucers Tricero/Terrortops
Dungeons & Dragons Warduke/Barbaricles
GoBots Fitor/Jetstrike's tech drone
Inhumanoids Liquidator/Landmass
Masters of the Universe Skeletor/Catastropheles
Voltron Robeast Scorpious/Rawbat

drahsrebu

27th February 2015, 04:54 PM

The Kickstarter campaign is now live!!!!!

Hursticon

27th February 2015, 05:45 PM

The Kickstarter campaign is now live!!!!!

He's right people (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors), and you've just 30 Days to get your pledges in! :D

Couple of things for people to remember with Kickstarter:

Payment Is Not Required Until The End of The Backing Period.
Payment will ONLY be taken if the project successfully meets its Funding Goal.
The Costs listed will almost always be in US Dollars unless otherwise stated.
Pay close attention to the pricing; There is often a seperate Domestic/Us Price and International Price (Namely regarding postage/shipping fees).
You can adjust the amount of money you're willing to pledge at any time.
You can only select 1 Pledge Level, but you can change it at any time during the Backing Period.
If there is additional Figures or "Addons" you'd like, pay close attention to the prices detailed in the "Addons" list - You then add the required amount for that particular figure/addon to your existing Pledge amount.
Keep checking the Kickstarter page regularly for updates.
Remember that a Kickstarter Project needs the support of you & others to succeed, not only financially but by spreading awareness, so spread the word by any & every means available to you.

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Now%20Live_zpsgmdeewxc.jpg (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors)

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Logo_zpsjohfgyjh.jpg

(Updated: 12:35pm AEST - 28/02/15)
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Kickstarter%20Cheat%20Sheet%20v2_zpssig7ewsk.jpg

I personally went for the "Play With Level 2": Bite Mark & Desolataur - Pledge Level, which costs (USD) $100 + $25 shipping.

That'll get me these guys! :D

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Bite%20Mark_zpswndbnkpl.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Desolataur_zpsmzr1cwxh.jpg

If I can manage to save enough by the end of March, baring in-mind the late March arrivals of both MP Exhaust & Star Saber, then I'd like to also add another (USD) $72 (Includes Shipping) to my existing pledge so as to get a Bloodbath figure too! ;):cool:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Bloodbath_zpsuneswgf8.jpg

That'll do me I think, unless some of the stretch goals get unlocked, because then I'll definitely be adding a 3x Heads Pack and a 3x Staff Pack to my total as well! :D

Let's see if this thing meets its Funding Goal of (USD) $80,000 first though. ;):)

Juggernaut

27th February 2015, 09:29 PM

drahsrebu

27th February 2015, 09:39 PM

He's right people (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors), and you've just 30 Days to get your pledges in! :D

I had a feeling that you'd elaborate for us ;)
Thanks hurst

Im back on a budget (ewwww) given that I decided to leave my job, but hopefully I can throw enough together to pledge.

Hursticon

27th February 2015, 09:53 PM

I don't really understand how this works to be honest, quite confusing (might be coz I'm on stupid shifts at work atm and my brain isn't comprehending it right.

So if I pledge 72 I can choose one out of the 2 figures available...
Yes, either Bloodbath or Desolataur. :)

...but if I pledge one of the higher amounts then add another 72 I can purchase that figure along with whatever else I buy?

Okay.

So if you decided to pledge for, say, "Play With Level 1" at $125 and then added an additional $72 on top (Then total $197), you would then be getting:

1x Catastropheles
1x Desolataur
And a single "Addon" figure of your choice between either Bloodbath or another Desolataur

...all shipped to your door, sometime around this time next year. ;)

Where it states: "Purchasing this reward allows you to purchase additional items" or "Purchasing this reward allows you to purchase additional items at checkout" - This simply means that your pledge level qualifies you to purchase "Addons". :cool:

You see, if your pledge level is anything less than $55/$72 you do not qualify to purchase any "Addons" - i.e. You can't simply pledge for the Prints ($40) or T-Shirt ($35) or a GiTD Button ($22) and then expect to be able to purchase a $72 "Addon" figure on top. :)

Does that help at all dude?
(I can understand if it's been a long shift and all this is just blending together, I think the Kickstarter could be worded a little better :o)

I had a feeling that you'd elaborate for us ;)
Thanks hurst

Im back on a budget (ewwww) given that I decided to leave my job, but hopefully I can throw enough together to pledge.

Sorry to hear you had to walk from the Job dude, never an easy choice :o, hope you're able to get in on at least 1 figure anyway. ;):)

I thought I'd try to explain things in my post as I've seen people be interested in backing things before, but have been put off because they can't quite wrap their heads around how Kickstarter works. :(

Being that "Lost Protectors" is now the 5th or 6th project that I've backed through Kickstarter, as well as watching/reading a lot of discussion on the subject, I feel I've come to understand how to go about participating. :D

SuspectimusPrime

28th February 2015, 12:08 AM

Tfiguy

28th February 2015, 12:16 AM

Cool! I'm actually very interested to see!

Hursticon

28th February 2015, 12:27 AM

Thanks for putting this up Hursti :) I was curious to know what other people were going in for.

I'm super keen to see PWTT's progress and this is my first kickstarter campaign that I'm supporting. Going in safe, I'm considering going in for both options 4. and 5. from the cheat sheet - Bloodbath and Desolataur. Not the best for value but will get me a good dosage of nostalgia ;)

No probs at all dude, glad you guys are getting something out of the post. :)

Options 1 & 2 are great choices I reckon if this is your first dance with Kickstarter, both look REALLY good and are safe additions to one's TF collection should that be the focus. ;)

I'm just totally in love with the palette of Bite Mark, hence why I went for Option 7 :D - I'd of preferred an option that had Bite Mark & Bloodbath together, personally, but what can you do? :cool:

Now you get to enjoy the fun part of slowly watching the project edge closer & closer to its funding goal, and if we're/they're really luck? - Beyond that and onto unlocking those stretch goals! :D

Cool! I'm actually very interested to see!

What's caught your eye the most mate?

Juggernaut

28th February 2015, 02:08 AM

Thanks mate, ur explanation made it alot easier to understand

Hursticon

28th February 2015, 12:34 PM

Thanks mate, ur explanation made it alot easier to understand

Oh good! - Glad I could be of help dude, if you or anyone else has any other questions please feel free to ask and I'll do my best to assist where I can. ;):)

...

Play With This Too have just posted their 1st update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors/posts/1148746), specifically highlighting an Oversight regarding International postage at the $55/$72 Pledge Level. :cool:

If you are an International backer and are pledging at the $55/$72 (USD) Level for 1x Figure (Either Bloodbath or Desolataur) and wish to purchase another single figure from the same $55/$72 pledge level (An "Addon" ;)) - Then PWTToo is asking that you please adjust your total from $144 (USD) to $135. :)

This is in an effort to save International customers, who are looking to purchase just a pair of the $55/$72 Pledge Level figures, some money on shipping but all other shipping rates remain the same. ;)

They've reflected this too in an update to the "Kickstarter Pledge Cheat Sheet", which I've posted below and will amend to my original major post (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=460032#post460032) also. :cool:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Kickstarter%20Cheat%20Sheet%20v2_zpssig7ewsk.jpg

Trent

28th February 2015, 09:33 PM

He's right people (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors), and you've just 30 Days to get your pledges in! :D

Couple of things for people to remember with Kickstarter:

Payment Is Not Required Until The End of The Backing Period.
Payment will ONLY be taken if the project successfully meets its Funding Goal.
The Costs listed will almost always be in US Dollars unless otherwise stated.
Pay close attention to the pricing; There is often a seperate Domestic/Us Price and International Price (Namely regarding postage/shipping fees).
You can adjust the amount of money you're willing to pledge at any time.
You can only select 1 Pledge Level, but you can change it at any time during the Backing Period.
If there is additional Figures or "Addons" you'd like, pay close attention to the prices detailed in the "Addons" list - You then add the required amount for that particular figure/addon to your existing Pledge amount.
Keep checking the Kickstarter page regularly for updates.
Remember that a Kickstarter Project needs the support of you & others to succeed, not only financially but by spreading awareness, so spread the word by any & every means available to you.

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Now%20Live_zpsgmdeewxc.jpg (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors)

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Logo_zpsjohfgyjh.jpg

(Updated: 12:35pm AEST - 28/02/15)
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Kickstarter%20Cheat%20Sheet%20v2_zpssig7ewsk.jpg

I personally went for the "Play With Level 2": Bite Mark & Desolataur - Pledge Level, which costs (USD) $100 + $25 shipping.

That'll get me these guys! :D

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Bite%20Mark_zpswndbnkpl.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Desolataur_zpsmzr1cwxh.jpg

If I can manage to save enough by the end of March, baring in-mind the late March arrivals of both MP Exhaust & Star Saber, then I'd like to also add another (USD) $72 (Includes Shipping) to my existing pledge so as to get a Bloodbath figure too! ;):cool:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/Bloodbath_zpsuneswgf8.jpg

That'll do me I think, unless some of the stretch goals get unlocked, because then I'll definitely be adding a 3x Heads Pack and a 3x Staff Pack to my total as well! :D

Let's see if this thing meets its Funding Goal of (USD) $80,000 first though. ;):)

I jumped in on this with the same pledge as you Hursty. I'm hoping that some stretch goals are reached, especially that Grimlock one :)

SuspectimusPrime

1st March 2015, 06:47 PM

For anyone else that's curious or missed out on these:

RFC - Video of the Desolataur grey resin/black rubber prototype (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCm8UzE7hDY)
RetroRobotRadio - Rick Alvarez showing off the Desolataur prototype with size comparisons (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbJwPMai_2I)
RFC - Interview with Rick Alvarez regarding the Kickstarter Campaign (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snvFUgiIasA)

reillyd

3rd March 2015, 02:11 AM

Theonlyone that would interest me is Jetstrike, but I'm disappointed with his tech drone colors. Nothing like the character he is an homage to

Scaleface

9th March 2015, 09:42 AM

Theonlyone that would interest me is Jetstrike, but I'm disappointed with his tech drone colors. Nothing like the character he is an homage to

It's a GoBot thing. He is Fitor. Second in command of the Decepticons with second in command of the Renegades.

Scaleface

13th March 2015, 10:35 AM

FREE PLATYPUS BMOG WITH ANY $55 LEVEL PLEDGE AND ABOVE All pledges at a $55 level and above will receive a free purple BMOG named MONOSCREAM. This NEW BMOG separates into 3 weapons. A Glow-In-The-Dark ATOMIC SPLATTERPUS BMOG is available for add-on at $12 US/INTERNATIONAL.

Yep, everyone who gets at least one $55 figure is getting a purple BMOG, and there is a glowing in the dark one for $12 as an exclusive add-on.

So right now if it funds, and you buy one of everything, it will cost $282 in the US, and you get 8 art prints, 7 transforming tech drones, 3 six inch tall demons, 2 six inch tall vampires, 2 BMOG platypi, a glow in the dark shield and a t-shirt!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11043035_357492224436974_4191158454231054416_n.jpg ?oh=d3af1151cbfbc60531ccab5c17ce585e&oe=558A666C&__gda__=1434536413_26801a4c6e104acbe1b00a22aacb0be e

Scaleface

14th March 2015, 09:37 AM

A new toy concept was posted reently by Play With This Too today and reminds more than a few people of the Dinobot Swoop. Be sure to support their Kickstarter campaign if you want to see this company succeed.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/s960x960/885743_357895774396619_1906920562642511289_o.jpg

Hursticon

14th March 2015, 02:22 PM

Awesome updates, Scaleface, keep 'em up dude! ;):)

Keep spreading the word guys, The Lost Protectors are presently 72% funded (At $57,438USD! :eek:) with just under 16 Days left to go! :D
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/B_-yuUKWsAA20lT.jpg%20large_zps68hdmyd1.jpg (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors)

I was really excited to see that the Desolataur Proto has been sent off to be painted, in an effort to give people a better idea of what the end-product is intended to look like once in-hand - Baring in-mind any minor changes during production of course. :cool:

"Holy McNeil!" was I struck in the Spark-Chamber by this potential figure! :D:D:D

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/B__uV6zUcAAZ-cD.jpg%20large_zpsztsmcdzf.jpg

I REALLY hope we see this project funded and some stretch goals unlocked because I WANT THAT FIGURE! :eek:

Also, for those that might still be a little curious as to how these 6" Scale figure will scale with other assorted toys? - Look no further! :cool:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/img_3563-copy_zps7mymkpee.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/img_3567-copy_zpslqu1jnri.jpg

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Scaleface

15th March 2015, 01:41 AM

Made this up for fun, but don't you think it's a great personality for him to have?

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Trent

15th March 2015, 10:17 AM

Hursticon

15th March 2015, 09:03 PM

I've met women like that...

Hehe :p, it IS a pretty cool bio though, Scaleface - well done! ;):)

drahsrebu

16th March 2015, 01:43 PM

I've met women like that...

that looks like my ex-wife :eek:

UltraMarginal

16th March 2015, 05:41 PM

So I had a tweet directed at me from a twitter account (@grimlockprime10) to pick up a free transformer through an Amazon Gift, also with a link to the PWTT kickstarter.

it feels like they're trying to buy my loyalty (with Hasbro product) before they even start.
I couldn't use it anyway as it's only open to US citizens but it still felt dirty.

I won't be supporting this project, apart from the fact that I don't really care about pretenders, the fact that there are so many ex Hasbro employees involved who've previously gone on record bagging out independent transformers companies and now a very large percentage of their product is a blatant rip off of classic transformers IP just rubs me the wrong way. It's very hypocritical in my view.

Scaleface

17th March 2015, 12:02 AM

UltraMarginal

17th March 2015, 09:57 AM

1. Only Aaron Archer ever complained that some 3PTFs were unoriginal, and that was when he was being paid by Hasbro. He has said now his opinion has changed.

2. Hasbro has not complained about Play With This Too or said they infringe on their IP. So why should it bother you?

So what your saying is Aaron Archers opinion belongs to whoever is paying him at the time.

I was going to let it slide, as I don't really care about pretenders.
It bothers me when they solicit me directly on Twitter.

I don't have a direct issue with independent transformers manufacturers, there is some quality stuff out there, I also don't think a lot of them are worth paying money for either.
I have issue with people who say one thing then do another and shove it down my throat.

Tetsuwan Convoy

17th March 2015, 12:01 PM

So what your saying is Aaron Archers opinion belongs to whoever is paying him at the time.

Ha ha ha. :D

It bothers me when they solicit me directly on Twitter.
I have issue with people who say one thing then do another and shove it down my throat.
In PWTT's defence, it looks like grimlockprime10 on twitter is just some twat who seems to spam twitter with various advertisements of his customs. Is he associated with PWTT?

Personally I like Pretenders, because they are cheesy. These are just pretending to be Pretenders and therefore spark no interest from me. I bet AA was just looking at all the 3P shenanigans wishing that he could play too while he was shackled with Hasbro and had to tow the line. Reagrdless though, the good news is you can block douchebagspammer10 on twitter and ignore PWTT.

kup

17th March 2015, 12:18 PM

So what your saying is Aaron Archers opinion belongs to whoever is paying him at the time.

I was going to let it slide, as I don't really care about pretenders.
It bothers me when they solicit me directly on Twitter.

I don't have a direct issue with independent transformers manufacturers, there is some quality stuff out there, I also don't think a lot of them are worth paying money for either.
I have issue with people who say one thing then do another and shove it down my throat.

If you work in the corporate world, it is like being part of a major political party. You have to peddle the company's stance on whatever issue or policy it has. If you personally disagree with said stance or business plan, you keep it to yourself.

Basically if you are not a 'Yes man' in today's corporate world which is filled with sociopaths, you'll get nowhere. I don't agree with how this situation is but I do understand that while Archer was employed by Hasbro, he had no free will to say what he individually believes but simply had to speak on behalf of the company that is paying for him to represent.

UltraMarginal

17th March 2015, 12:18 PM

In PWTT's defence, it looks like grimlockprime10 on twitter is just some twat who seems to spam twitter with various advertisements of his customs. Is he associated with PWTT?

quite possible but they jumped on and favorited right away so I assumed a connection based on that.

I bet AA was just looking at all the 3P shenanigans wishing that he could play too while he was shackled with Hasbro and had to tow the line. Reagrdless though, the good news is you can block douchebagspammer10 on twitter and ignore PWTT.

you are probably quite right, so he should have just said nothing.

and yes and yes :)

Scaleface

18th March 2015, 02:20 AM

Ha ha ha. :D

In PWTT's defence, it looks like grimlockprime10 on twitter is just some twat who seems to spam twitter with various advertisements of his customs. Is he associated with PWTT?

Not to my knowledge. He's just a fan. Don't hold what he says against a company.

Scaleface

18th March 2015, 02:51 AM

Some fun bios for 3 of the character went up. Madwing is a psychic pilot. Skull-F is a nice demon, and Terribull is a evil overlord consultant!

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/8/85/Madwing-shortbiography.jpg
http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/6a/Skullf-shortbio.jpg
http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/c/cb/Terribull-shortbio.jpg

Trent

18th March 2015, 07:18 AM

Scaleface

20th March 2015, 02:58 AM

77% and 11 days to go. As promised, when we hit 300 backers we would debut another character we hope will make it into this Kickstarter (amongst all the others we've shown you...). Instead of revealing one character how about two? Count Tuskula and Lord Tangent Von Tuskuleser will be joined by a 3rd aquatic hero with slightly different armor...

We will upload more micro-bios tomorrow!

Up to 78% now, and looks like these guys are callbacks to the Thundercats Tuska Warrior and Battle Beasts Wolfgang Walrus!

https://playwiththistoo.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/walrus-tusk.jpg

Scaleface

25th March 2015, 08:05 AM

A quick preview of the painted prototype, more pics to hopefully arrive tomorrow. It's just six days to the close of the campaign.

https://40.media.tumblr.com/746aa63a740f3ff64d595f97b9008161/tumblr_nlq4t5L9ND1tl4d5wo1_540.jpg
https://41.media.tumblr.com/b478dbbb4b019dcc7a59d797da4c9e64/tumblr_nlq4t5L9ND1tl4d5wo2_540.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/6516d1073c9ac228a50f8f077e580b5e/tumblr_nlq4t5L9ND1tl4d5wo3_540.jpg
https://41.media.tumblr.com/3996eccac6e0208620cf0ffddfce0f20/tumblr_nlq4t5L9ND1tl4d5wo4_540.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/573ae728f86cb4a36d79679e68988ae3/tumblr_nlq4t5L9ND1tl4d5wo5_540.jpg

For more information, check the PWTT facebook page. (https://www.facebook.com/PWTToo)

Scaleface

26th March 2015, 07:21 PM

New gallery!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.363114537208076.1073741832.264887950364069&type=1&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fmedia%2Fset% 2F&refid=9&_rdr#_=_

Hursticon

26th March 2015, 11:28 PM

If only they had been able to get that Proto painted sooner, because good lord does it look gorgeous now! :eek::D

From what I've seen of Toy Kickstarters, you REALLY need to have some sort of painted proto to give people a thorough idea of what they're going to assist in producing, much better than concept sketches anyway, but something is WAY better than nothing. ;):)

So if you're on the fence? - Cast your eyes upon the fully painted prototype of Desolataur! :cool:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10379762_363114577208072_3373306120505616181_o_zps s9lpzxdi.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Crap/10293636_363114570541406_8595064746253817308_o_zps mgv16qhr.jpg

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Scaleface

28th March 2015, 08:59 AM

In a recent update Play With This Too announced some details of their "Play With This All" and "Play With Just The Figures" pledge levels on their Lost Protectors Kickstarter.

If they end up making the minimum level for funding, but don't unlock a lock of stretch goals, they are offering people who pledged for these levels to get many low cost figures, which they can use to army-build, resell, or customize.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/play-with-this-too-lost-protectors

With just over two days left, please keep in mind there is usually a 48 hour surge in pledges and backers. That being said, we want to make ensure everyone feels comfortable with their pledge amounts and receive enough product to make their pledges worth it.

For the $900 Play With It All option, if the Kickstarter succeeds but does not unlock stretch goals, we will provide the following for backers at this level:

Desolataur figure x3
Bloodbath figure x3
Catastropheles figure x3
Kickstarter Exclusive Bitemark figure x6
Kickstarter Rare Exclusive Calaminous Haagenti x8
Tech Drone Two-Pack with D-Fuzz and R-Mix x5
Glow-In-The-Dark BMOG x5
Monoscream BMOG x5
Bear/Manta Ray BMOG Exclusive x3
T-Shirts x2 Art Prints x3
Button/Shield Logo x3

This is a total package worth over $1,400.

For the $765 Play With Just The Figures option, if the Kickstarter succeeds but does not unlock stretch goals, we will provide the following for backers at this level:

Desolataur figure x3
Bloodbath figure x3
Catastropheles figure x3
Kickstarter Exclusive Bitemark figure x4
Kickstarter Rare Exclusive Calaminous Haagenti x5
T-Shirt x1
Monoscream BMOG x3

This is a total package worth over $900.

AS EACH STRETCH GOAL IS UNLOCKED, THESE LISTS WILL BE UPDATED TO SWAP IN THE UNLOCKED ITEMS UNTIL DUPLICATES ARE ELIMINATED. EACH SET WILL ALWAYS CONTAIN MERCHANDISE AT LEAST EQUAL TO THE ABOVE LISTED VALUES.

Just doing the math, that's 23 figures for $900 which comes to $39.13 a figure (plus tons of bonus items). or 18 figures for $765 which comes to $42.50 a figure. A much cheaper way to buy in bulk than even the army builder sets.

SuspectimusPrime

30th March 2015, 01:13 PM

Really surprised to see the surge of backers on the 11th hour - currently $69k - well, the last 14 hours (just before I went to bed they were still only $62k). I wonder if everyone made their pledges early on would that have incited more people to pledge or for existing pledges to increase (demand driven herd mentality).

Sinnertwin

30th March 2015, 01:40 PM

well, unless they can get $10,043 in the last 26 25 minutes, i'd say that's the ball game

SuspectimusPrime

30th March 2015, 01:49 PM

well, unless they can get $10,043 in the last 26 25 minutes, i'd say that's the ball game

They did get $1k in the time it took for me to walk downstairs and grab a wrap ;)

kup

30th March 2015, 02:01 PM

3 mins to go and they still need 9k. Not looking good..

Raider

30th March 2015, 02:06 PM

Yep they didn't get to $80k. Sorry to hear for anyone that was invested in this.

Hursticon

30th March 2015, 02:29 PM

Yep they didn't get to $80k. Sorry to hear for anyone that was invested in this.

Well, there was no investment as one's funds aren't taken until the project successfully gets funded at the time of the backing period closure. :)

PWTToo merely need to take lessons from the experience, regroup and come back for a "Round 2" - To throw their hands in the air and say: "Welp, that's that - We're done" would be a complete waste of time, money & effort on many people's behalf.

Keeps your eyes peeled, this is likely not the last you've heard of The Lost Protectors. ;):cool:

Other

30th March 2015, 02:33 PM

Pretty sure Raider meant Emotionally invested not Financially invested

kup

30th March 2015, 02:34 PM

They came close enough, maybe they were reaching too high. Maybe next time they should just do one figure and see how that goes.

Hursticon

30th March 2015, 02:36 PM

Pretty sure Raider meant Emotionally invested not Financially invested

That's entirely possible, if so the condolences are admirable. ;):)

Raider

30th March 2015, 02:39 PM

Pretty sure Raider meant Emotionally invested not Financially invested

Spot on Other :D Otherwise I would have said "that invested" not "that was invested" :p

Hursticon

30th March 2015, 02:41 PM

Pretty sure Raider meant Emotionally invested not Financially invested

Spot on Other :D Otherwise I would have said "that invested" not "that was invested" :p

I stand quite corrected on my misinterpretation, in which case. :)

SuspectimusPrime

30th March 2015, 04:07 PM

I think they should have focused on offering a single bundle that a large majority of collectors would be keen on. At the end of the project there were 87 backers for Desolataur and 60 Backers for Bloodbath. Perhaps set $120 for Bloodbath + Desolataur + a retro-print T-shirt (of either Bloodbath or Desolataur rather than the green alien logo :p - they've got cool art people want already so it should be pretty easy to pump them out en masse).

I don't think it's too far-fetched to offer two individual moulds in the same bundle as they've offered up Bloodbath at the same $55 price point.

Whilst the repaints/exclusives were nice, my first priority would be on completing these images:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/a/a8/ExposetheDecepticons_Decepticon_Pretenders.jpg/200px-ExposetheDecepticons_Decepticon_Pretenders.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/1/16/ProtecttheWildAnimals_Decepticons_Pretenders_robot _mode.jpg/200px-ProtecttheWildAnimals_Decepticons_Pretenders_robot _mode.jpg

Lord_Zed

30th March 2015, 08:11 PM

Shame they didn't make it, not sure why, or if the goal was to high for an action figure start up, the only ones on Kickstarter I've seen peaked at $60k (if there were others let me know), and PWTT went $10k over so in that regard I think they did pretty well.

I think having a few more prototypes to show of would have helped too, but eve with their credentials and a Transformer tie in, it still may have been ti niche to reach their target.

Scaleface

30th March 2015, 09:15 PM

We have final numbers. Not funded, but a great showing on the last day. 406 backers and $71,625 pledged out of $80,000. That's roughly 90% funded!

I, for one, am still interested in buying these figures if you can come up with another source of funding their creation.

One thing I think all reasonable people can agree on, is that this campaign was too close not to try again in some form. Good luck on the future PWTToo!

Krayt

31st March 2015, 12:06 AM

Biggest problem I think is the range the spread the figures over....

The first that interested me wasn't unlocked until 280K.... And I wasn't going in until it hit that. I wanted right up to like 400K.... And would have gone one of the "one of everything" options.... But didn't want the "worth the same" backup plan of 3x the boring basics or whatever they ended up promising.

kup

31st March 2015, 09:25 AM

reillyd

2nd April 2015, 11:29 PM

I don't know enough about Kickstarter. Is it a once only offering, or can you resubmit with more modest goals? I would have been all in for Jetstrike

Scaleface

6th April 2015, 06:32 AM

I don't know enough about Kickstarter. Is it a once only offering, or can you resubmit with more modest goals? I would have been all in for Jetstrike

Yes, they could resubmit, but it makes more sense that if they try again they make some improvements so they do better. They have said they are not finished we just may have to wait a few weeks.

Scaleface

10th April 2015, 08:12 PM

Looks like a small piece Play With This Too to going ahead next with the Chainbill Splatterpus mold.

The Big News Is Here! | BMOG Toys (http://bmogtoys.com/news/?p=329)

We�re teaming up with Nonnef Productions to produce Chainbill Splatterpus! This mechanical monotreme excels at semi-aquatic combat and may be available for sale by and at Botcon 2015 in multiple colorways.

Nonnef�s manufacturing setup is perfectly geared to our needs. More announcements and changes will be coming in the next week or so.

Stay tuned!

https://41.media.tumblr.com/fef6bd4a4000cde15c499a9fa16abe97/tumblr_nmkfyat8vm1sktul3o1_1280.jpg

https://41.media.tumblr.com/0d5ce1f680bf2e5d5bfa5b37fd284687/tumblr_nmkfyat8vm1sktul3o2_1280.jpg

reillyd

11th April 2015, 05:44 PM

Scaleface

11th April 2015, 09:43 PM

I can see that selling, but are PlayWithThisToo actually the BMOG team, or are they separate entities? I was looking forward to a whole lot more BMOGs, but a single platypus isn't much more of an addition to their existing lineup.

Trent Troop, who owns BMOG is a member of the PWTToo team.

We have seen renders for a large bird of prey (Featherblight) and a set of 3 prehistoric reptiles, as well as art work for a bunny hand grenade and an eel-weapon. Presumably without Kickstarter campaign money to finance this, they have to release one item at a time and use the profit from one toy to make the next. The Splatterpus was just about finished anyways, so it's coming out.

http://bmogtoys.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/featherblight-main.jpg

Scaleface

22nd April 2015, 12:24 PM

I recently had a chance to take some pictures of the Desolataur prototype. Here is a preview of the upcoming gallery:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/f/fc/Skullgring1-desolataur.jpg

SuspectimusPrime

22nd April 2015, 02:06 PM

I recently had a chance to take some pictures of the Desolataur prototype. Here is a preview of the upcoming gallery:

That looks amazing, do you know if we would still be able to purchase these?

kup

22nd April 2015, 02:08 PM

I recently had a chance to take some pictures of the Desolataur prototype. Here is a preview of the upcoming gallery:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/f/fc/Skullgring1-desolataur.jpg

It's pretty good although the color and roundlooking sword looks more as if he is holding an inflatable pirate sword.

Scaleface

23rd April 2015, 06:39 AM

That looks amazing, do you know if we would still be able to purchase these?

There is always the possibility. I know the company is still in business, they have that BMOG platypus coming out at BotCon 2015, and they are trying to set up some alternative way of making 6 inch figures. Whether they will still make Desolataur first, or one of the other figure is still unknown. I think they need to get some prototypes made before they can do anything, especially if they are doing another Kickstarter. The biggest negative on that last Kickstarter was only having the one prototype and only getting it painted 3 days before the campaign ended. If they ever do that again the MUST start with a selection of fully painted prototypes on day one of the campaign!

SuspectimusPrime

23rd April 2015, 09:37 AM

There is always the possibility. I know the company is still in business, they have that BMOG platypus coming out at BotCon 2015, and they are trying to set up some alternative way of making 6 inch figures. Whether they will still make Desolataur first, or one of the other figure is still unknown. I think they need to get some prototypes made before they can do anything, especially if they are doing another Kickstarter. The biggest negative on that last Kickstarter was only having the one prototype and only getting it painted 3 days before the campaign ended. If they ever do that again the MUST start with a selection of fully painted prototypes on day one of the campaign!

Completely agree. I also think that if they're doing another Kickstarter, it might be good to do one real soon whilst many of the backers of that first $71k might react quickly and get one fig shipped this year. Otherwise the delay may be more than half a year, as many pockets will be siphoned by Botcon.

Scaleface

25th April 2015, 11:44 AM

A rather large gallery is online now. Check it out.

https://www.facebook.com/mathew.ignash/media_set?set=a.10204781543603373.1073741832.13813 64399&type=1&pnref=story

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11156348_10204798610670039_1145203152842494371_n.j pg?oh=520f9dd0905074df0c217fc2a5dc17ff&oe=55A114F5

Lord_Zed

26th April 2015, 07:24 PM

Would have been cool to see that gallery before the Kickstarter.

Scaleface

27th April 2015, 10:39 AM

Would have been cool to see that gallery before the Kickstarter.

Yes, but sadly things happened. Hopefully Des will get a second change to shine.

Scaleface

3rd May 2015, 10:20 PM

I recently got a chance to review the painted prototype of the Desolataur action figure. You can see it live here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZPUzhm4gcw

Scaleface

19th May 2015, 09:58 AM

We have an update on the BMOG platypus mold, which is going into production now.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/5e63e65714d1e8e33987bed1a9b14167/tumblr_noehoxZ2NT1sktul3o1_1280.jpg
https://36.media.tumblr.com/67f50cccb375d68c782bcc3e86815eee/tumblr_noehoxZ2NT1sktul3o2_1280.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/4e1829266465ec80b01e030c11abf4fb/tumblr_noehoxZ2NT1sktul3o3_1280.jpg

What�s this? Foil decals? From Reprolabels!

Pictured here with our 3d-printed prototype (not final). Each sheet comes with two visor and pressure gauge options, plus faction symbols and sawblade detailing.

Current plan is for each �Splatterpus� to come with one. More on BMOG-03 as news becomes available.

We will be debuting in an online drop through our web store, and we will have a booth at TFcon in October.

Scaleface

30th May 2015, 02:02 AM

What have we all come to love from Play With This Too? That's right! teaser art of an upcoming project! What is it? What is it called? When will it come out? Who knows?, but it's nice looking. I hope we hear more about it soon.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27519493d1432830435-play-too-pwtt-project-archive-all-2014-concepts-here-pwtt-axe.jpg

kup

31st May 2015, 03:05 PM

After what happened, they should stop the teasing and start showing us actual solid products.

reillyd

31st May 2015, 08:11 PM

The platypus is adorable. Anyone know where to get one? Will they have a table at Botcon?

Scaleface

1st June 2015, 05:22 AM

The platypus will be sold in their online store. They will not be ready until after BotCon.

Hursticon

1st June 2015, 08:39 PM

Vangelus has popped up a video review (https://youtu.be/AQW9ynzkU_s) of the Desolator Proto. :cool:

Scaleface

4th June 2015, 11:20 AM

My review of the Saw Slasher Scythe weapon intended to be used by the Bloodbath and Sir Pythanore figures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZHUwvlORrA

Scaleface

7th June 2015, 09:38 PM

From Get Right Robot's Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/175910185804608/photos/a.345164172212541.81183.175910185804608/944764755585810/?type=1&theater

You want more? Fine. Let's do this. PLAY WITH THIS TOO! That's right. The wizards behind this project have been kind enough to provide some prototypes and renders for us all to drool over! Although we may not get the entire team, we hope one or two members get to come hang out with TheChosenPrime.com Family! However, the DESOLATAUR will be in attendance and on display!

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10419985_944764755585810_3585243032742221074_n.jpg ?oh=4e20acdab7082ac2bb3b48fb883b6ade&oe=55EDA254

So renders of future product? Plus we have seen silhouettes of Boneyard (not-Grimlock) lately. I'm hoping we see a render of him!

Scaleface

11th June 2015, 02:15 AM

I see they posted another weapon render on their Facebook page. Seems to be the mace weapon they advertised with their Jetstrike and Sir Fangramore LeVenomous figures.

I sort of wish they would release these on Shapeways just so we could try them out on MOTUC figures while they are re-working their plans.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/5/59/Strikescepter-render.jpg

Deonasis

11th June 2015, 08:02 AM

I just cannot keep up with all the figures, weapons and heads they show off. Ii am lost in a sea of Transformers references and other versions i dont understand.

Scaleface

12th June 2015, 11:29 AM

I just cannot keep up with all the figures, weapons and heads they show off. Ii am lost in a sea of Transformers references and other versions i dont understand.

Well I do have a wiki page listing of all their designs.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Play_With_This_Too

They have a whole toy line planned, the question is what figures will they be able to get off the ground?

As for that mace, it was seen in the hands of several of their toys. All their "Strikers" had it (aka the Pretender Seekers), one of their snakemen was carrying it, and these two bat-dudes had it. So if they have made CAD models for it, many of their figures have had one piece more completed.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/b/bf/Impirator-art.jpg

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/0/05/Rawbat-art2.jpg

Scaleface

14th June 2015, 09:02 AM

Play With This Too posted this render image today. According to Facebook talk it's a shield/melee weapon, and we will be seeing more come BotCon.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/0/02/Triceratops-head-art2.jpg

Tetsuwan Convoy

14th June 2015, 04:11 PM

I just cannot keep up with all the figures, weapons and heads they show off. Ii am lost in a sea of Transformers references and other versions i dont understand.

Well I do have a wiki page listing of all their designs.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Play_With_This_Too

They have a whole toy line planned, the question is what figures will they be able to get off the ground?

I think that is their main problem. Instead of concentrating on one thing, they have spread themselves too thin and can't get off the ground. I think they should focus on one or two figures and once they're out, regroup and then they can splurge on the universe they want to create.

Even though they are currently updating their stuff, all it seems to me is:
flounder, flounder and a bit more flounder.

Scaleface

14th June 2015, 09:25 PM

I think they have focused on a few designs now, they will be revealing them shortly. These accessories are for those figures.

Scaleface

17th June 2015, 06:58 AM

Another image of the dinosaur skull shield went out today. According to Play With This Too's Facebook page the full figure reveal will come Thursday night at a pre-BotCon party.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/c/c0/Boneshield.jpg

I also noticed that the image is tagged #boneyard on Tumblr. As you may recall Boneyard was one of the late stretch goal figures from the Kickstarter, and was one a lot of people said they should have started with. Perhaps it's been bumped up the design ladder and has new accessories?

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/0/02/Boneyard-art2.jpg

Scaleface

19th June 2015, 09:25 PM

Play With This Too has revealed the first images of one of the figures to be part of their revival.

Redesigned and ready for print! Our next reveal will be the 3D renders for Jetstrike. Both figures will be part of our Kickstarter "Remix" right out the gate. Prototypes and more info coming soon!

According to Facebook responses, they plan to have printed and painted prototypes before the new Kickstarter begins. A definite improvement! I think people will like seeing the physical toys.

http://www.playwiththistoo.com

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/e/e7/Boneyard-render1.jpg

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/b/b5/Boneyard-render2.jpg

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/1/13/Boneyard-render3.jpg

Scaleface

23rd June 2015, 09:30 AM

Play With This Too recently posted some details on how their second Kickstarter will be different. They simplified the pricing structure, and are limiting it to 8 figures total.

From Play With This Too:

We haven't hashed out the Kickstarter yet, but it will most likely work based of this concept:

*Let's for right now say there are 8 figures - 4 different Boneyard decos and 4 different Jetstrike decos...

Pay XYZ - pick 1 of any figure (from 8 choices available)
Pay XY2 - pick 2 of any figures (from 8 choices available)
Pay XY3 - pick 3 of any figures (from 8 choices available)
etc
etc
etc
Then we'll do a Play With It All option for 1 of all 8 figures available

We're going to be focused on just the Boneyard and Jetstrike molds for right now. We probably won't show any stretch goals until we're more than 3/4 of the way funded.

We still love Desolataur, but the Kickstarter won't focus on his base figure.

We'll be showing off all the figure decos and weapons before the Kickstarter launches.

Scaleface

25th June 2015, 02:00 AM

Some bullet points I gleened from Play With This Too's recent online posts:

-The new KS will be late this year or early next.
-There will be 8 figures in the KS, 4 variants of Boneyard and 4 variants of Jetstrike.
-The pricing structure of the upcoming KS will be simplified (one price for any 1 figure, another price for any 2, and another price for any 3, etc.)
-Stretch goals will not be revealed until the KS is about 75% funded.
-Tech drones have been redesigned, and will probably be stretch goals.
-Jetstrike and Boneyard have been redesigned to share some common parts.
-Desolataur buck is being redesigned for more articulation.
-Ankhor/Mainsail design is being redone to use some parts from Boneyard/Jetstrike.

Scaleface

6th July 2015, 10:00 AM

Play With This Too recently announced on their Facebook page that Boneyard and Jetstrike will each ship with two additional heads. So if there were any of the head from those Head Shots they teased back in the first Kickstarter, and thought would look good on a gladiator or jet armor body, this would be a good time to tell them.

https://www.facebook.com/PWTToo/photos/a.296706337182230.1073741829.264887950364069/419109274941935/?type=1&theater

They said Boneyard is getting 3 recolors. So molding a total of four heads for it makes sense. One head to be the main head for each deco of the body. Then with the four weapons, each of the four color variations can have different a head and weapon.

I posted that I would like to see the undead warrior Litchknife and the dinosaur headed Big Mac Roche on Boneyard.

Scaleface

11th July 2015, 10:02 AM

Two recent tweeted replies from Play With This Too might be of interest to those following them...

@JasontheDoombot Jetstrike is almost done. Just want to get Boneyard printed and shown before we reveal the redesigned Jetstrike.

and

@deathformer Looking to launch it later this year in a few months. Hopefully around September/October? Not trying to wait until 2016.

So Jetstrike's render will be revealed after we see the Boneyard prototype, and the Kickstarter could start as soon as 2-3 months from now!

Also, just announced, the Boneyard figure prototype will be revealed at TFcon Canada 2015!

https://playwiththistoo.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/tfcon-promo.jpg

Scaleface

17th July 2015, 08:33 AM

New image from Play With This Too for the upcoming TFcon 2015 reveal.
Of course the obligatory fan-made enhancement of the image using autolevel on a paint program so you can see the details.

https://www.facebook.com/PWTToo/photos/a.292919947560869.1073741828.264887950364069/423754427810753/?type=1&theater

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/0/03/Boneyard-tfcon2015promo3.jpg

reillyd

17th July 2015, 09:12 PM

Why bother with this tease, when they released a beautiful full colour of him earlier? Am I missing something (re old, new parts, etc)

Scaleface

21st July 2015, 03:19 AM

Why bother with this tease, when they released a beautiful full colour of him earlier? Am I missing something (re old, new parts, etc)

This is a new figure named Boneyard. The one that was released in full color was called Desolataur.

Scaleface

21st July 2015, 10:58 AM

The Boneyard unpainted prototype was on display at TFcon Tornoto 2015, as well as appearing in the TFcon third party product preview panel. For those interested, here is a peek:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/5/52/Boneyard-prototype1.jpg

They have said they are revising some details and sizes already, and have a second prototype being done now, and a prototype for their other figure, Jetstrike, is on the way. Here is a teaser:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/e/eb/Boneyard-prototype2teaser.jpg

Scaleface

2nd August 2015, 02:16 AM

Play With This Too released a render of the first look at Jetstrike's head design on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/PWTToo/photos/a.292919947560869.1073741828.264887950364069/428006004052262/?type=1&theater

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/6e/Jetstrike-headsculpt.jpg

Scaleface

3rd August 2015, 04:11 AM

First hand painted prototype pictures of Boneyard. This figure is hand painted by Jason Brehn. Of particular coolness is the paint detail on Boneyard's robot head, check out the teeth on the helmet in the second picture:

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/6a/Boneyard-prototype2.jpg

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/f/fa/Boneyard-prototype3.jpg

Scaleface

9th August 2015, 06:35 AM

We have our first look at a render of the second design for the upcoming Kickstarter Redux. Jetstrike is a foul-mouthed, bad boy fighter pilot in flying Protector armor in the Lost Protectors universe. According to posts by Play With This Too expect the Kickstarter to begin in September 2015.

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/e/ed/Jetstrike-render.jpg

UltimateGalvatron

10th August 2015, 01:10 PM

Are there going to be the actual robots inside the Pretender Shells or no?

SuspectimusPrime

10th August 2015, 05:44 PM

Are there going to be the actual robots inside the Pretender Shells or no?

Nope. Check out this vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCm8UzE7hDY) for their first attempt.

They're more stand-alone deluxe-sized action figures with a good level of articulation, 5mm ports + attachments, and an accompanying smaller "transformable" robot (very simplistic engineering, almost 1980's Micromaster-level).

Scaleface

10th August 2015, 11:15 PM

Nope. Check out this vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCm8UzE7hDY) for their first attempt.

They're more stand-alone deluxe-sized action figures with a good level of articulation, 5mm ports + attachments, and an accompanying smaller "transformable" robot (very simplistic engineering, almost 1980's Micromaster-level).

They have actually said they are completely re-engineering the Tech Drones to be more like Arms Microns. We have not seen the new robots yet, but they will attach to the backs or form weapons for the larger figures. Targetmaster-like.

SuspectimusPrime

11th August 2015, 05:38 PM

They have actually said they are completely re-engineering the Tech Drones to be more like Arms Microns. We have not seen the new robots yet, but they will attach to the backs or form weapons for the larger figures. Targetmaster-like.

That would be a welcome upgrade. Even if the alt/weapon-modes aren't really good, as long as the robot modes have a much better resemblance to their vintage designs they won't look like afterthoughts to the Pretender action figure.

Scaleface

13th August 2015, 02:04 AM

I found a nice image comparing the new painted Boneyard figure to the old painted Desolataur figure.

https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11824973_107505426266560_5048287359093113689_n.jpg ?oh=af6e3fcc578cc8a4a780e969a39f9973&oe=56809E93

kup

13th August 2015, 10:58 AM

That's pretty good but not sure about Boneyard's proportions. It could be that the bulky armor makes it look a bit goofy.

SuspectimusPrime

13th August 2015, 11:41 AM

Lord_Zed

13th August 2015, 07:50 PM

That's pretty good but not sure about Boneyard's proportions. It could be that the bulky armor makes it look a bit goofy.

True, and yet I'd feel kind of disappointed if a toy based on an Autobot pretender shell didn't look goofy.

Scaleface

13th August 2015, 10:25 PM

Yeah, Desolataur's armour fits much more naturally by comparison. Didn't realise Boneyard is bigger than Desolataur. I feel like the Pretender monsters should be slightly larger and more imposing than the Pretender humans.

Well, one thing you have to consider is they plan future figures that mix parts. For instance Muscules (aka Stranglehold) has basically the upper body of Desolataur and the lower body of Jetstrike. So they are all going to be the same height. I think this Boneyard only looks bigger because he's standing tall, while Desolataur is hunched over.

kup

14th August 2015, 12:41 PM

True, and yet I'd feel kind of disappointed if a toy based on an Autobot pretender shell didn't look goofy.

True enough :)

Scaleface

16th August 2015, 10:50 PM

Play With This Too posted the prototype images of Jetstrike (and his recolors) on their web site. They did say they are changing a few things to make the proportions better. I also note that the joints on this prototype are a little loose, which will be fixed. This is only prototype materials.

The toy will come with 3 head options, 2 sets of hands, helmet, wings, as well as arm cannons and maces that come apart into 5mm peg and port pieces to make into different configurations.

Kickstarter will begin in September. This figure will be available in 4 different colors sets as well as unpainted for customizers to come up with their own designs.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11889617_431947533658109_4687171211181738385_n.jpg ?oh=eba72c7c18479d25ab9eb65e5fa9ab0c&oe=56817718

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11866239_431947523658110_3783953738837922146_n.jpg ?oh=838ae92a4944a96341459734313468c0&oe=568265FE

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11143713_431947566991439_4601390358892153843_n.jpg ?oh=c4476e37c6a6179cb31d80f1f32cc49a&oe=5635C2FF

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11013388_431947616991434_8213619535560485287_n.jpg ?oh=071b9493e692de1daa3d86e523198b78&oe=563E41AA

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11896019_431947623658100_651945747788718466_n.jpg? oh=8ca053dd21464874b51999f650e71031&oe=5679FC11

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https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11892228_431947646991431_5389305013038043709_n.jpg ?oh=55ad614f1be38eaf386aafdf0e45c2fb&oe=56734405

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11873529_431947673658095_555629136627986430_n.jpg? oh=a118ca98a3d37eb7ac1866c0c70225a6&oe=56822203

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11891035_431947690324760_3044730169874357336_n.jpg ?oh=51ab4522e93bfd13f5c729b46fc007e0&oe=56734538

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11846729_431947693658093_5288064941724563616_n.jpg ?oh=2be0ce0adc57176af090036d2b1046c5&oe=567E250A

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11219022_431947760324753_4675073711682079552_n.jpg ?oh=279c1cc0902c8f9a59d29764dff2f229&oe=56784AE2

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11880389_431947753658087_3653566918871769916_n.jpg ?oh=7c224450722720fe6c3b7291ba998f67&oe=564111BB

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11870908_431947826991413_3004761939858694025_n.jpg ?oh=b0cff93e837f08d6cace758ee1657a12&oe=563D3297

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11880540_431947866991409_7151177536365512272_n.jpg ?oh=1ab18102ee90d3edee35cfa0047a8f25&oe=563F8C70

kup

17th August 2015, 10:20 AM

Scaleface

17th August 2015, 11:39 AM

Nice. The robot 'Screamer' head should probably be smaller so that it feels more like he is a robot wearing a big human suit of armor - Yeah I know how ridiculous that sounds but it is the Pretender concept ;)

Yeah. It doesn't look like the robot head fits in the human head, but then we have also have had peeks at the PWTToo fiction. This isn't supposed to be a strict updated "Pretender Starscream".

It's "original character" (who just is inspired by Pretender Starscream). In their stories the characters are humans who wear advanced armor that grants them powers. So Jetstrike here is a guy wearing a Starscream-inspired armored suit. That "robot head" is actually a battle mask he wears over his human face, that looks like Starscream. This guy is actually a hero too.

I wonder though, for people who want him a little more Starscream like, how would it look to put the Construct-Bots Starscream head on this body? It's a bit smaller, and more G1 Starscream looking.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/Autobloke/ConStar1r_zpsb73b1bed.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/Autobloke/media/ConStar1r_zpsb73b1bed.jpg.html)

kup

17th August 2015, 02:02 PM

Yeah. It doesn't look like the robot head fits in the human head, but then we have also have had peeks at the PWTToo fiction. This isn't supposed to be a strict updated "Pretender Starscream".

It's "original character" (who just is inspired by Pretender Starscream). In their stories the characters are humans who wear advanced armor that grants them powers. So Jetstrike here is a guy wearing a Starscream-inspired armored suit. That "robot head" is actually a battle mask he wears over his human face, that looks like Starscream. This guy is actually a hero too.

I wonder though, for people who want him a little more Starscream like, how would it look to put the Construct-Bots Starscream head on this body? It's a bit smaller, and more G1 Starscream looking.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/Autobloke/ConStar1r_zpsb73b1bed.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/Autobloke/media/ConStar1r_zpsb73b1bed.jpg.html)

Yeah but I don't think many people would be buying these just for 'Their story' ;)

Scaleface

17th August 2015, 09:10 PM

Yeah but I don't think many people would be buying these just for 'Their story' ;)

You are right of course. I am probably one of the biggest followers of Third Party Transformer fiction out there, most people ignore it completely. I actually read KFC comics, and FansProject comics. They are quite fun.

Thing you have to remember is that Play With This Too is unlike any "third party Transformer" company out there. They are based in the US, and all the owners are publically known former Hasbro employees. They simply cannot make copies of Hasbro characters legally. They know they can make stuff that generally evokes Transformers themes enough to maybe interest fans, but they have to make things original enough to be considered new characters and not piss off Hasbro's legal department. That's why this is a line of 6 inch tall heroic space men fighting space monsters, who just HAPPEN to look a little like some Transformers characters.

--

Oh, they just announced there will be an all-white figure made for customizers to paint up as this like, and it will haver a fun box:

His bio is going to be a Mad Lib that you fill in. He'll come in a white box you can also customize.

kup

18th August 2015, 09:31 AM

You are right of course. I am probably one of the biggest followers of Third Party Transformer fiction out there, most people ignore it completely. I actually read KFC comics, and FansProject comics. They are quite fun.

Thing you have to remember is that Play With This Too is unlike any "third party Transformer" company out there. They are based in the US, and all the owners are publically known former Hasbro employees. They simply cannot make copies of Hasbro characters legally. They know they can make stuff that generally evokes Transformers themes enough to maybe interest fans, but they have to make things original enough to be considered new characters and not piss off Hasbro's legal department. That's why this is a line of 6 inch tall heroic space men fighting space monsters, who just HAPPEN to look a little like some Transformers characters.

--

Oh, they just announced there will be an all-white figure made for customizers to paint up as this like, and it will haver a fun box:

I hear what you are saying but I think the line of similarity to the '88/89 Hasbro stuff is crossed enough and shrinking the head a little won't add much to any legality that isn't already there.

Scaleface

18th August 2015, 12:36 PM

I hear what you are saying but I think the line of similarity to the '88/89 Hasbro stuff is crossed enough and shrinking the head a little won't add much to any legality that isn't already there.

You are right from a toy standpoint, but from a FICTION standpoint having it be a human wearing a robot face makes it vastly different from a robot wearing a human face.

Also, I think they did say something about making the heads smaller in general. Also, Jetstrike's guns will be smaller.

Scaleface

20th August 2015, 08:33 AM

First render of Flarestrike, who will be one of the 10 figures available in the Kickstarter which begins next month!

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/4/40/Flarestrike-art2.jpg

Scaleface

24th August 2015, 01:06 AM

Here are some of the recolors of the figures which will be available as additional items in the Kickstarter which begins September 2015.

Wrecktifier is a "broken mirror" version of the heroic Boneyard.
http://40.media.tumblr.com/05cf30dc27e05dafff66b98350bf9174/tumblr_ntb1sk6v9g1tl4d5wo3_540.jpg

Wastelander is... from the wasteland?
http://36.media.tumblr.com/ece75726854bc3b69723c5ed71b79640/tumblr_ntgsm43oSX1tl4d5wo1_1280.jpg

There will also be unpainted "customizer editions" of the figures for people to buy which are great for making your own characters.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/bb9aad41456a077fd74959b8715ca778/tumblr_ntb1sk6v9g1tl4d5wo1_540.jpg

Scaleface

27th August 2015, 11:18 AM

In related news the BMOG side of things is also going ahead with their new toy, which will be made in several colors.

Some renders showing two of our upcoming colorway concepts for Chainbill Splatterpus. Each will come with multiple 'pressure valve' stickers and two different eye options.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11921648_1013830591961498_8458233512356846427_n.jp g?oh=69b9a07db3b1fd6e059b5d4280cc2e8c&oe=56818524

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11892158_1013830588628165_8193005255323361077_n.jp g?oh=ce3b427a7614ffdb6e5ffa11be08213f&oe=56788303

reillyd

30th August 2015, 08:48 PM

That platypus looks awesome, and in colours like that one from Phineus and Ferb too

Scaleface

1st September 2015, 03:16 AM

Play With This Too have said they are shooting for the second Kickstarter to begin in September. It will go for 30 days and end during TFcon USA, which runs October 16th � 18th.

Some new pictures of the Boneyard prototype, including showing it with the new, unpainted chest with ab crunch. We also get a comparison with some other figures from other lines.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11960028_437321409787388_1081880744343575648_n.jpg ?oh=32286b14fabf3ca86dae5d836b0bc088&oe=567261C6

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New chest piece with more articulation, still needs to be painted:
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SuspectimusPrime

4th September 2015, 02:55 PM

With Boneyard's human face being modeled after Schwarzenegger, then is Jetstrike's human face also modeled after a known person?

Looking at the latest painted pics of Jetstrike, he really reminds of Lord Zarak from the Marvel G1 comics (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Zarak_(G1)).

Scaleface

4th September 2015, 10:06 PM

We have full color painted prototype images of Jetstrike!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.437321369787392.1073741835.264887950364069&type=3

Finally revealing our painted Jetstrike prototype. + New pictures of the painted Boneyard prototype. Also shown is the new torso with abdomen crunch action. Help make us a Kickstarter staff pick once we go live in September. Launch date coming soon!

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Scaleface

9th September 2015, 12:20 PM

This just posted from the PWTToo Facebook page:

Later this week we'll announce when our Kickstarter will begin. Right now, we're very happy to tell you that these figures will start at $39 each. The more figures you pledge for the more you'll save! We're doing everything we can to keep the prices as low as possible for everyone. Thank you for your support so far!

I'll just remind you that Rik Alvarez has said in interviews that they were shooting for a 30 day long Kickstarter, and they wanted it to END during TFcon USA, which happens on October 16-18th, so if that's still the plan, I'd count back 30 days from that and you probably have a good guess for when this begins!

Scaleface

17th September 2015, 12:13 AM

Rik Alvarez was interviewed on the TF Insane Asylum tonight. During the show he revealed Faststrike (aka Pretender Thundercracker).

Kickstarter begins Friday and cost is $39 per figure INCLUDING SHIPPING to the USA (or less if you get multiple figures!) $78 for 2 figures, $113 for 3 figures, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp87YQvfiwg

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/f/fb/Faststrike-art2.jpg

Trent

17th September 2015, 10:09 AM

Free shipping to USA doesn't really excite us, you know, not being in the US and all...

Scaleface

17th September 2015, 10:48 AM

Free shipping to USA doesn't really excite us, you know, not being in the US and all...

Fair point. Shipping to non-US locations can be a bear.

I see that shipping for any other country is an extra $14 USD, that means you can get one for about $53 USD, which is about $74 AUD in the current exchange rate? Of course shipping gets to be less per figure the more you buy.

Still, it's cheaper than the last Kickstarter they tried, where one figure was $55 plus $17 USD, or about $100 AUD!

Scaleface

19th September 2015, 10:48 AM

With the Kickstarter finally on the way, I notice that Stonebreaker (in Beast Wars Grimlock white and gold) is a figure that had not been revealed before this Kickstarter began, and also Wrecktifier has been reworked to add a lot of orange that wasn't there on the early previews.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/boneyard-and-jetstrike-action-figures-playwiththis

Stonebreaker:
http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/66/Stonebreaker-art.jpg

Wrecktifier:
http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/7/79/Wrecktifier-art3.jpg

Scaleface

24th September 2015, 09:42 AM

Play With This Too recently released some biographies for two of the characters in their Kickstarter. These give us a glimpse into the fiction of their world. Is there a reason why so many armors looks like Boneyard? It's because he won so many battles, the armor smiths copied it's design. Why is Stonebreaker called that? Ask the Armadas of Granite... Read on...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/44339820/boneyard-and-jetstrike-action-figures-playwiththis

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/e/e7/Boneyard-render1.jpg
Boneyard

The Guardian of the Gates

�The true cost of war is not paid by those who die in battle, but by those who survive it.�

An ancient relic from a time long past, legend suggests he has competed in the galactic arenas since their inception. Some believe he was the fabled cosmic champion who survived the trials of Catastropheles to stand-alone against the Desolataur. Armed with nothing more than his enchanted Perdition Solacer, he ripped out the Desolataur�s heart, rising to victory and saving us all from the consuming darkness of the Null Miasma.

His legend inspired thousands of generations to take up arms against the Vampires Cosmic, Serpents of the Coiled Throne and the great Armadas of Granite. His armor was the basis for countless Aegis battle suits. His weapons were replicated by the greatest smiths ever known. His shield made from the head of his first opponent in the arena, the commanding Terrortops himself. His helmet plucked from the head of the Mighty Testosterous.

Now he stands as the Guardian of the Gates to the arena. He alone passes judgment onto those who come to compete for the survival of freedom and life in our universe. Allowing only those with honor and purity of heart to step foot onto the same hallowed ground where the blood of a million warriors has been splattered by nefarious forces. To face him at the gates lacking the resolve of a god itself is to stare into the great abyss of bereavement. For only those worthy and righteous enough will he let pass.

He was a legend amongst present day Protectors. His true name and birthplace lost in the annals of time. We know him only as Boneyard. As the time for action falls upon us yet again he emerges once more to guide us with his wisdom, strength and courage. Through him our victory will be assured.

Favorite food: Poutine

http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/images/6/66/Stonebreaker-art.jpg
Stonebreaker

Last of the Northern Knights

"I put no trust in hope's broken promises. I forge my path through the fire of my own resolve!"

The youngest surviving son of the great Captain Daewon is the last of his line. His family torn apart by the Granite Armadas in the Great Stone War, leaving only him to don his father�s iconic armor. To many he seemed unworthy of the privilege, but cutting down an unrelenting Tri-Horn and forging his shield from its very skull proved the naysayers wrong.

It was not compassion for the people of the Northern Realm which fueled him but the youthful desire for vengeance against those that sought to enslave his kin. It was through his quest to demolish the forces of King Kalcite that he protected us. His unforgiving nature was his call to action and now no world shall fall victim to the dark hands of desolation.

Victorious in his pursuit of retribution he has forsaken the name laid upon him at birth to become a fixed light for us to fall behind and rally against the Null Miasma. He is the Stonebreaker!

Favorite Food: Sugar Pie

Juggernaut

25th September 2015, 10:37 PM

90k?

Doubt they will get there

kup

28th September 2015, 08:46 AM

90k?

Doubt they will get there

Yeah it's not looking optimistic. They have to make 65k more in just 25 days.

Lord_Zed

28th September 2015, 08:36 PM

I don't really have much experience with toy Kickstarters, I've backed more than a few miniature game ones and some have gone stratospheric. 90 grand is a fair ask, but not to crazy from the manufacturing side, but perhaps a bit tricky for an unknown company that has never produced anything before which means there already a little risky.

Not knowing how much it costs to engage a factory to build these guys, it's hard to say how fair their prices are, but it does seem there is little incentive to jump on the Kickstarter beyond just getting one each of the two molds. Their previous KS was too ambitious, perhaps the pendulum has now swung to far in the other direction.

I dunno other Kickstarters I've seen offer special deals to the first 100 backers, or with regards to some of the possible stretch goals maybe they could have said once they reach a certain threshold all versions of this mold get and extra accessory free. To me those sort of incentives always seem to do well as every time the KS goes up high enough everyone wins, so people start pushing the KS to their friends and they get free advertising of a sort.

Anyway not sure if it applies in this case, but just my musings.

Scaleface

28th September 2015, 10:44 PM

To compare with some other action figure kickstarters (using US prices, your shipping may vary of course).

Boneyard, a 6 inch figure with lots of accessories, is $39 for a figure, and the Kickstarter needs to raise $90,000.

There is a 6 inch ninja action figure with few accessories on Kickstarter right now which costs $45 for one figure (and goes up from there for more complicated figures), and they have a $150,000 goal.

There is also a 4 inch skeleton warrior that's looking for $15 for a skeleton and $25 for a more complicated figure. They are looking to raise $50,000.

So Play With This Too seems to be between those other two.

--

We just got a run cycle video for Jetstrike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK1v_6d2uRE

Also his biography, which may explain why he's a "good guy" in their fiction... he has no choice!

JETSTRIKE

Scion of the Sacred Flame

"This power chose me, what I do with it is my business."

For ten millennia the Striker Fleet fought in the galactic arenas to protect life from the force of evil, going so far as to turn evil's power against the Null Miasma itself. The Fleet brooks no defectors, deserters, or thieves and only one being has ever eluded Flarestrike's trackers: the man calling himself Jetstrike.

A small time thief and con artist, he found the body of the original Jetstrike, still clad in its living Aegis armor, on a distant desert world. Donning the armor himself, the thief was shocked to find the living armor accepted and bonded to him. For a time "Jetstrike" ran cons on frontier worlds, posing as a hero to get rewards and resources before fleeing to the next colony, with Flarestrike hot on his trail the whole time. It was raw luck that crossed his path with Boneyard and his Lost Protectors. Forced to pretend to be the former Jetstrike's promoted squire, Jetstrike joined their ranks for protection and to take their armor for himself if they fall in battle.

As Gate Keeper, Boneyard knows Jetstrike's ambitions, but he knows the Aegis he wears and believes there is hope for Jetstrike. This brash, wild spirit may be the Scion of the Sacred Flame, as prophesied by Catastrophles' himself. The Aegis limits Jetstrike's access to his power, rewarding him with more when his better nature shines through. Boneyard sees Jetstrike's skill and power grow with hope, but Jetstrike fears the day his new comrades discover his secret.

Favorite Food: Schweinshaxen mit Kl��e

reillyd

29th September 2015, 11:05 PM

See I thought the reason they all resemble each other is because they were reusing the mold, but there's a plot reason for repaints? Cool!

Juggernaut

4th October 2015, 11:49 PM

Wierd, was up to 39k and has now dropped down to 27k. How does 12k just go missing? This is never gona happen

reillyd

5th October 2015, 12:56 AM

Wierd, was up to 39k and has now dropped down to 27k. How does 12k just go missing? This is never gona happen

It was a pretty ballsy target they were shooting for. I really think they should have been less ambitious, gone for just one figure. Once we had it in our hands, people would have seen how cool the concept was, and bought the next kickstarter

Scaleface

5th October 2015, 06:19 AM

Wierd, was up to 39k and has now dropped down to 27k. How does 12k just go missing? This is never gona happen

Some pranksters/saboteurs pledging giant amounts, but never intending to pay, got caught by Kickstarter and had their accounts deleted. Some trolls on another board were bragging how they did it.

Juggernaut

5th October 2015, 07:34 PM

Some pranksters/saboteurs pledging giant amounts, but never intending to pay, got caught by Kickstarter and had their accounts deleted. Some trolls on another board were bragging how they did it.

Wankers

I agree, smaller target 1 figure

Scaleface

6th October 2015, 01:12 PM

Did you guys see the latest update? They added two new BMOG sets, and a exclusive bronze Boneyard that can only be obtained by getting $359 or more. I'm definitely in for the BMOG.

Happy Monday!

We have some exciting news to bring you guys! First, we�d like to thank all our backers. Second, for anyone who has, will or changes their pledges $78 or more you will receive a free set of brand new black BMOG figures! BMOGs are small animal companions which can stand on their own or be used as weapons. BMOGs also feature 5mm ports and can be used with any weapon featuring a 5mm port. These go great with any of our figures!

Black BMOG set free with $78 pledge or more.

�But what if I want my BMOGs to glow-in-the-dark?� Well, we�ve got some good news for you! Introducing the Play In The Dark Action set of BMOGs! This set is available to anyone who has already pledged or will pledge for at least 1 $39 figure. Just add an additional $12 to your pledge for this glow-in-the-dark set. For our international backers, there is no additional shipping charges.

Glow-In-The-Dark BMOG add $12 to your pledge of $39 or more.

Finally here is the big news. We have a new figure reveal and guess what it�s totally free to anyone who has pledged, will pledge, or increases their pledge to $359. This bronze version of Boneyard is ONLY AVAILABLE to those who pledge $359 or more. THIS FIGURE WILL NOT BE PART OF THE MIX AND MATCH OPTIONS. This figure is free with no further additional shipping charges required to anyone domestic or international. And again, the only way to get it is by pledging at the $359+ level.

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reillyd

12th October 2015, 10:45 PM

I like the colours, but 359 for a figure? That's a crazy amount.... but they're not going to get it off the ground anyway

Juggernaut

13th October 2015, 09:12 PM

I like the colours, but 359 for a figure? That's a crazy amount.... but they're not going to get it off the ground anyway

Yeh definitely going to fail again

359 for quite a few figures plus 2 more repaints for free, is ok ish, but would be better down the track if they released different heads so u can make actual different characters, instead of all of them identical

Trent

13th October 2015, 09:21 PM

It's a shame that this doesn't look like it's going to fly. It has a team that is passionate about what they're doing with what seems like a cool idea. I backed the last one but not this one because I wanted the Desolataur figure and he's not an option here. Plus I have to watch my money. But I would have liked to see it get up.

Paulbot

13th October 2015, 09:58 PM

reillyd

13th October 2015, 10:10 PM

So you might say those fake bidders were... Pretenders?

:rolleyes::D

Groan, that's painful

Scaleface

2nd November 2015, 04:37 AM

For those interested, Duron "Weirdwolf" Land interviewed Rik Alvarez on a wrap up of the Kickstarters and his plans for the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILbdtpkQ44

Includes talk about what happened behind the scenes, some talk about the toy industry in general.

News:

1. They will be staying far away from Kickstarter.
2. The 6 inch figures on are on the back burner. It is possible they will get made if another company is interested in producing their design.
3. The weapons and tech drones they designed may go on to Shapeways for people to print out (please let them know if you are interested!).
4. Rik was approached by 2 different manufacturers at TFcon Charlotte. Some toys will end up getting made in partnership with another third party company with PWTToo doing design.

kup

2nd November 2015, 12:58 PM

A 3P publishing them will probably be better thank a kickstarter

reillyd

2nd November 2015, 05:44 PM

For those interested, Duron "Weirdwolf" Land interviewed Rik Alvarez on a wrap up of the Kickstarters and his plans for the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mILbdtpkQ44

Includes talk about what happened behind the scenes, some talk about the toy industry in general.

News:

1. They will be staying far away from Kickstarter.
2. The 6 inch figures on are on the back burner. It is possible they will get made if another company is interested in producing their design.
3. The weapons and tech drones they designed may go on to Shapeways for people to print out (please let them know if you are interested!).
4. Rik was approached by 2 different manufacturers at TFcyon Charlotte. Some toys will end up getting made in partnership with another third party company with PWTToo doing design.

How can we let them know about the desire for Shapeways printing of them? Do hey have a contact address (I'm assuming they won't be reading the Kickstarter page, given what you said about far far away)