Michael Bay will not be directing TF5

[reillyd]

You ever had one of those days when you notice the sun is shining, the birds are chirping, and everything is right with the world. And then you read the news that your childhood robot franchised will no longer be bastardized with eyecandy T&A of humans!


Michael Bay will not be directing Transformers 5. Discuss.

[UltraMarginal]

I don't get the Michael Bay hate, as much as his movies aren't Oscar winning dramas they are still entertaining films and they've made the transformers franchise so much bigger than it was before 2007.

sure another director might have made movies that were more heavily G1 inspired, but those same movies might have bombed at the box office and transformers might have faded into comparative obscurity.

I'm excited to see who replaces him, how they manage infusing their own style into the designs of the transformers and the filming of the movies as a whole. I think too rapid a change will be jarring.
Who would I like to see do it, Jon Favreau. I think he would get it.

there are others but he's at the top of my list.

[DELTAprime]

Link for those of you that need confirmation. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/confirmed-michael-bay-not-directing-transformers-5-181444/

Now we just have to hope TF5 gets someone in charge that isn't a hack like Bay and treats the franchise with respect.

[yoshi594]

IGN Confirmed. yea they are a trust worthy bunch aren't they? how do we know this isn't just a stunt from bay to get a bigger pay check lol?

[VERT]

Yay. But I will believe it when I see it.

[DELTAprime]

IGN Confirmed. yea they are a trust worthy bunch aren't they?

I don't pay attention to their movie reporting, but their games reporting is accurate and trustworthy. Tho they don't write up a ton of news as they are a preview and review focused site and therefore miss lots of things I think are newsworthy.

[Paulbot]

Well, it looks like Hasbro just started caring. Michael Bay is out now, because he "got hit with several DCMAs from Hasbro at around 3am this morning. Apparently the director had been 'Overenthusiastically promoting an inferior knock off of Hasbro intellectual properties that were protected properties.' Things are not looking good right now. That's all I can say at this time." Big news

[griffin]

(topic title changed, as we don't need that sort of negativity in news titles - keep it for the post body)

[Lord_Zed]

Assuming he doesn't boomerang on us last minute and direct TF5 anyway.

I wish this was actually a magic cure all for the movies, but the fact remains take out all the Bayisims and the plots are still stupid. And it's not like the plots of most other action films not directed by Bay are much better. If this is true I expect minor changes at best.


Well, it looks like Hasbro just started caring. Michael Bay is out now, because he "got hit with several DCMAs from Hasbro at around 3am this morning. Apparently the director had been 'Overenthusiastically promoting an inferior knock off of Hasbro intellectual properties that were protected properties.' Things are not looking good right now. That's all I can say at this time." Big news

Hehehehe, topical! :D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

This is good news.

I don't think I could handle another Bay Transformers movie. If he does do the next, I already know exactly what I'll be in for and will therefore save my money.

Hope this is really true for realssszs

[Sinnertwin]

Meh. I'll still be watching the next two instalments either way

[drifand]

This is good news.

I don't think I could handle another Bay Transformers movie. If he does do the next, I already know exactly what I'll be in for and will therefore save my money.

Hope this is really true for realssszs

but sadly it will be from where is left off? So there isn't much to work upon as the foundation is laid. Unless is a clean reboot.

[Megatran]

I haven't seen TF4 movie yet. :o

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

but sadly it will be from where is left off? So there isn't much to work upon as the foundation is laid. Unless is a clean reboot.

I'm fine with a clean reboot. The fact that Bay's movies had bugger all continuation hasn't affected anything. Reboot is great.

If they wanted to they could even continue with Bumblebee leading Autobots on Earth, Optimus will be off fighting aliens/whatever. None of the main Autobots (Hound, Drift et al.) matter, just like the other movies.

As long as there is a good, coherent story, I'm fine with that.

[Bidoofdude]

Well, it looks like Hasbro just started caring. Michael Bay is out now, because he "got hit with several DCMAs from Hasbro at around 3am this morning. Apparently the director had been 'Overenthusiastically promoting an inferior knock off of Hasbro intellectual properties that were protected properties.' Things are not looking good right now. That's all I can say at this time." Big news

I knew it. Huge fan rage predicted. :p:rolleyes:

Bay's films aren't awful, they have their moments and some of the character designs are nice. It is good to see that they'll be given a fresher perspective, since the whole Bayformers mood is losing its shine IMO. Not as special as the first film.

[Gofigure]

In my minds eye I am seeing a beautiful reboot being put in motion. A director who gives a hoot and has read a few idw issues, saw the G1 cartoons as a child, and wants to simplify the designs of these robots in disguise with a heavy G1 aesthetic however keeping modern. Mature plot lines being rolled out however making it all accessible (no F bombs or sex with motorcycles)...I can see it all.....and it's beautiful :)

[1AZRAEL1]

Oh god here we go... :rolleyes:

I'll laugh at all the nerd rage if it turns out to be false :p

[Hursticon]

Oh god here we go... :rolleyes:

I'll laugh at all the nerd rage if it turns out to be false :p

Given that he has said this twice and twice returned? - Yeah, I'll probably be there with you. :p

Would certainly be interesting to see who'd be chosen to take up the challenge from where Bay "Left Off", definitely wouldn't be a small effort that's for sure. :cool:


Say what you will about Bay's complete ineptness at story telling and characterisation, the guy sure knows how to film a visually-arousing spectacle that grows brand awareness, coffers and wallets - I'll always thank him for my sizeable Classicsverse collection personally. ;):)

[GoktimusPrime]

If this turns out to be true, we don't know if the new director will be any better or possibly even worse. Hopefully better (let's face it. it's not hard... but also not impossible for someone worse to come along :p). :o I just really want to see a director who can strike the balance between thrilling action and emotional character-driven stories, e.g. Irvin Kershner (Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back).

I personally would prefer to see the movies continue from the Bayverse films -- as flawed as they are, I don't want to see a reboot. That's just lazy and as others have said, it is throwing away a lot of the foundations laid in AoE which do have the potential to create good stories if done right. Galvatron is essentially a blank slate; we know very little about his character from AoE because he got virtually no characterisation. While this did make his character rather forgettable in AoE, it does mean that he's a fairly open slate for future writers/directors to mould into a more interesting antagonist. The whole creators sub-plot is just ripe for doing almost anything with; such as exactly how do they tie in with the AllSpark Cube, Matrix of Leadership, Dynasty of the Primes, the Fallen etc. It'd be great if the creator arc could be tied in with pre-existing canon from the previous films and attempt to tie them all together; potentially retrospectively enhancing the previous films. :)

A lot of Bay's strengths as a film maker have been disappating in the sequels anyway.
e.g.
* Ties with the military and to portray a relatively more realistic military response to an alien threat. This was done pretty well in movies 1-3, but disposed of in AoE. Lockdown's ship is anchored above a U.S. city and trashes Hong Kong, but the military don't seem to do all that much. We saw a better response from the Jordanian Air Force when the Decepticons were laying siege in Jordan and Egypt (as well as suggestions of Jordanian and Egyptian cooperation with U.S. forces). While some of the military plots were distracting, as a concept this was pretty cool - because human technology isn't something to be laughed at, we do have some highly damaging weapons like sabot rounds! The first 3 movies showed that the Cybertronians were physically and technologically superior to humans, but they weren't gods. Human tech could hurt and kill them if applied appropriately.
* Portraying the Transformers as "Giant Effing Robots." Bay was really good at this with TF1 and ROTF with a lot of the low angle shots, showing what TFs would look like from a human POV if they were actually real. The first two movies never let us forget that the Transformers are giant robots; better than any other medium before or since. But he's let that slide in DotM and AoE due to the longer and wider angle distance shots, most likely due to the studio's decision to film with 3D cameras (thus using more "epic" distance shots to make scenes look better in 3D). The plus side is that the fights are less 'blurry' and messy looking than those in the first two films, although I personally liked it for the realism. But the action in DotM and AoE is a clearer and easier to see/follow than in TF1 and ROTF. The new director will probably maintain this because I think it's a studio decision rather than the director's choice; but either way, it was something that I considered to be one of Bay's strengths that has dwindled in the past two films anyway.

[Sky Shadow]

Well, it looks like Hasbro just started caring. Michael Bay is out now, because he "got hit with several DCMAs from Hasbro at around 3am this morning. Apparently the director had been 'Overenthusiastically promoting an inferior knock off of Hasbro intellectual properties that were protected properties.' Things are not looking good right now. That's all I can say at this time." Big news

Ha. You took the words right out of my keyboard! :cool:

[5FDP]

It's Halloween yeah, not April Fools...

I'll believe it when I see it.

[sideswipes brother]

BEST NEWS FOR TF FANS EVER!!!!

Really hope Ewe Boll takes the reigns. :D:eek::rolleyes:

[GoktimusPrime]

IMO part of the problem is that the stories have been created as a means to show case spectacular visual effects, instead of creating spectacular visual effects as a means to tell a story. The greatest effects are, at the end of the day, just a tool for story-telling, but it doesn't actually tell a story on its own.

I believe that most fans prefer a film with a better story over effects. I've said this before, but the easiest comparison is with the Star Wars films. The Original Trilogy is considered to present more character-driven quality stories compared to the Prequel Trilogy. The Original Trilogy may be more reliant on miniatures and puppetry as opposed to the green-screen and CGI intensive Prequel Trilogy, but story-wise the Originals still trump the Prequels despite their relatively more crude effects.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/trilogy_zps064b1113.jpg

[Sky Shadow]

I've said this before...

Surely this image is saying it's superior to be concise and make your point. I'm not sure that posting it again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=356692&postcount=200) and (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=390264&postcount=44) again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=408249&postcount=2) and (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=418821&postcount=50) again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=423216&postcount=114) is really delivering an understanding of that message.

[Bidoofdude]

IMO part of the problem is that the stories have been created as a means to show case spectacular visual effects, instead of creating spectacular visual effects as a means to tell a story. The greatest effects are, at the end of the day, just a tool for story-telling, but it doesn't actually tell a story on its own.

I believe that most fans prefer a film with a better story over effects. I've said this before, but the easiest comparison is with the Star Wars films. The Original Trilogy is considered to present more character-driven quality stories compared to the Prequel Trilogy. The Original Trilogy may be more reliant on miniatures and puppetry as opposed to the green-screen and CGI intensive Prequel Trilogy, but story-wise the Originals still trump the Prequels despite their relatively more crude effects.


With all the booming advances in movie-making technology, such as CGI and greenscreen, I think that most directors/producers would be really keen to show off what they can do. Ultimately, this usually ends up as a spectacular visual presentation, with little substance. If we could somehow fuse the two, you'd have classics all around.

[Tfiguy]

Is it me, or does everything smell like roses today?

[Sinnertwin]

Is it me, or does everything smell like roses today?

Depends on where you're standing, i suppose :p

[Soundwarp]

I saw this thread and I personally just want to say: "YAY"!

[Mythirax]

Depends on where you're standing, i suppose :p

Rofl :D

[Raptormesh]

Wait, are they going to reboot this like how they rebooted batman?

[drifand]

Don't let people who did robocop and total recall touch it. (Rebooted)

[kup]

Surely this image is saying it's superior to be concise and make your point. I'm not sure that posting it again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=356692&postcount=200) and (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=390264&postcount=44) again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=408249&postcount=2) and (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=418821&postcount=50) again (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=423216&postcount=114) is really delivering an understanding of that message.

Wouldn't be Gok if he didn't do that ;)

[Mythirax]

Wouldn't be Gok if he didn't do that ;)

Rofl.

[griffin]

C'mon... hands up who really thought Bay wouldn't be involved in future Transformers movies?

From a recent Cinema Convention in America (http://deadline.com/2015/04/tom-cruise-arnold-schwarzengger-wow-exhibitors-paramount-star-power-cinemacon-1201413640/)...


Paramounts Vice Chairman Rob Moore, highlighted several upcoming sequels and reboots.... He also promised the theater owners that Michael Bay was hard at work developing a fifth Transformers movie since the first four have made an astounding $3.7 billion worldwide, music to the ears of this crowd which is ALL about box office. But first Bay is directing Thirteen Hours, a war movie set around a daring rescue mission in Benghazi that is already set for release on Martin Luther King weekend next January. Bay’s also producing a sequel to last summer’s successful ($485 million worldwide) reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle franchise, Ninja Turtles II, set for June 3, 2016.


Although, to be fair... it says Michael Bay is working on "developing" the next Transformers Movie (as a Producer), NOT directing it... so it was always going to be likely that his production company would have him involved as a Producer on future Transformers Movies... but not necessarily Directing the next one.
(he still could be Director... if he decides as its Producer that he is the best person for the job, but this isn't an announcement that he is Directing the fifth movie)

[Mythirax]

I'm pretty happy if bay does it. I want him to finish what he started. Would love to see shia again as well.

[Sinnertwin]

remind me to avoid the boards in 2017
I don't think i can handle another bout of "my childhood, ruined forever!" or "the franchise is down the toilet"

[griffin]

I'm pretty happy if bay does it. I want him to finish what he started. Would love to see shia again as well.

Not sure about Shia anymore. I used to really like him in the movies he did as a teen-early 20s, but now he's just doing a lot of crazy stuff lately that would distract people from the Movies (the good parts at least).

He's behaving like someone who has no reason to live, so is doing random bizarre things for the hell of it because he doesn't care about the consequences. He's already been seen heavily drinking, so drugs are probably already in the mix... which would lead to an overdose eventually. :(

[sideswipes brother]

I'm pretty happy if bay does it. I want him to finish what he started. Would love to see shia again as well.

You need a doctor...

[Mythirax]

Not sure about Shia anymore. I used to really like him in the movies he did as a teen-early 20s, but now he's just doing a lot of crazy stuff lately that would distract people from the Movies (the good parts at least).

He's behaving like someone who has no reason to live, so is doing random bizarre things for the hell of it because he doesn't care about the consequences. He's already been seen heavily drinking, so drugs are probably already in the mix... which would lead to an overdose eventually. :(

I don't read into all the media on celebs. I just enjoy them for how they act and to finish what they did. I watched tf2 the other night, i really enjoyed seeing him in the movies again.


You need a doctor...

Thanks......

[Magnus]

Apparently Hasbro want/expect Transformers 5 to be released in 2017, (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/hasbro-confirms-the-transformers-cinematic-universe-transformers-5-in-2017-182515/) so that's obviously not confirmation of a 2017 release year. I'd wait for a statement from Paramount or Michael Bay's website.

Me? I'm glad Bay is still involved - from an artistic 'consistency' point of view it's good to have commonality between instalments (and yes, cinema is 'art' - perhaps not all of it is 'high-brow' art, but art nonetheless).

[GoktimusPrime]

I'm pretty happy if bay does it. I want him to finish what he started. Would love to see shia again as well.
I dunno... I think most Star Wars fans are happy that George Lucas isn't "finishing what he started" by directing the sequels. :o ;) I personally think that it's high time that the directorial baton be passed on... time to give someone else a turn. I don't mind if Bay's producing it, as they don't have as much creative influence as the director. After all, Steven Spielberg's been producing the live action movies thus far, and well... yeah. :p

[UltimateGalvatron]

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/tribeca-2015-shia-labeouf-overshadows-truelove-promo-by-railing-against-hollywood-transformers-and-al-pacino-in-candid-rant-10184394.html

Looks like Shia won't be in Transformers 5, even if anyone wanted him back in the first place.

Poor, poor Bumblebee

[griffin]

(moved this last post to here, as we were recently discussing the matter)

[griffin]

(discussion posts about the pros and cons of Michael Bay have been moved to the discussion topic here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20884))