Toy Review - Masterpiece Ultra Magnus

[BigTransformerTrev]

Series - Masterpiece
Size/class – Big!
New/remould/redeco – New
Released here – Not yet
Approximate Retail Price - $160
Approximate Size – 30cm
Allegiance – Autobot
Alt-mode – Car Carrier
Main Features/Gimmicks – Cab detaches, can carry other MP cars
Main Colours – Blue, Red, White
Main Accessories – Gun, Spike & Daniel, alt face

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Robot Mode
I was expecting it but was still pleasantly surprised at how big he is! Really solid, large and in charge. Not a lot of little detail going on but I think it actually works with him though it may irritate others. Very cartoon faithful, very well proportioned, looks a lot better than stock photos we have seen that have made him look top heavy and chunky. Being able to change his face is cool and he has great articulation. I found it a little weird they put two black circles at the bottom of each outer foot to try and do faux-wheels – looks a bit odd and a bit unnecessary. The big panel hanging down off his butt also detracts from the robot mode and it’s a shame they couldn’t figure out some way to hide it. But overall absolutely fantastic!

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Car Carrier mode
Very good, the missiles look a lot better at the sides than on the G1 version that has them at the front. The fact the cab can detach I found to be an unexpected bonus. The colour scheme is very good though I find the red panel on the front of the cab quite weird and unsuited. With all his adjustable ramps and being proportioned to take the other MP cars it adds a lot of play value. You can even put Spike and Daniel in the cab to recreate whatever that episode was where they stole Trypticons transformation cog (though I don’t own a Vortex big enough to lift MP Magnus up and shake him :p). Very good indeed!

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Transformation
Not overly complicated but I wouldn’t try it without the instructions the first couple of times. The only things that irritated me were getting his arm to initially swing out and then getting everything with his trailer to snap into place – I’d put in one panel at the front and it would make connections at the back come apart. Almost spent as much time getting all the little clips to not force each other out as I did on the rest of the transformation! Besides that it’s a good transform and at a good level for the toy in question.


Overall
Well I’m not going into too much detail here as there will be tons of people that want to do their own reviews and post their own photos but I have to say it’s an excellent toy! Everything is top notch and even the artwork on the instruction manual and collectors card is impressive. Very pleased to have him as my 1600th figure! :D I had planned to keep him in vehicle mode along with my other versions of Magnus but the robot mode is that impressive I think I’ll display him like that for now. This figure is highly recommended! :)

[Trent]

Nice review Trev :)

I agree with most of your points.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Nice review Trev :)

I agree with most of your points.

Cheers mate :) I didn't put up more photos as I saw the great ones you put in the other thread and knew I couldn't compete ;)

[Trent]

Cheers mate :) I didn't put up more photos as I saw the great ones you put in the other thread and knew I couldn't compete ;)


Aww, shucks :o

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Overall I love it! Can't wait to get some photos wit him and Rodimus :D

[Nevac]

Still waiting on mine from RK going to repost my question here as well

Can anyone confirm if his arm ramp can go flush with the feet/ramp so the cars can drive up it like the G1 toy? All the promotional pictures and reviews I've seen no one has demonstrated it. With the G1 toy you not only have to point the arms down but bend the elbow joint to achieve this. I notice the elbow joint is in the same place for the MP version but no one has bent it to to show it off the cars have to jump to get on the ramp.

[Bidoofdude]

"It fell of a truck truck truck truck"

[drifand]

Have not gotten mine but voted yes. He is cheap, $160-$195 from jp online stores.

[Trent]

Still waiting on mine from RK going to repost my question here as well

Can anyone confirm if his arm ramp can go flush with the feet/ramp so the cars can drive up it like the G1 toy? All the promotional pictures and reviews I've seen no one has demonstrated it. With the G1 toy you not only have to point the arms down but bend the elbow joint to achieve this. I notice the elbow joint is in the same place for the MP version but no one has bent it to to show it off the cars have to jump to get on the ramp.

Pretty sure he can. I've seen a promotional photo of it somewhere. I'll try to take a pic this arvo.

[Nevac]

Pretty sure he can. I've seen a promotional photo of it somewhere. I'll try to take a pic this arvo.

Just got mine today and he can't lay his arms flush with the bottom ramp as well as the G1 toy. On a side note I did find out you can keep Spike/Daniel in him when he's transformed in robot mode.

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[Trent]

Just got mine today and he can't lay his arms flush with the bottom ramp as well as the G1 toy. On a side note I did find out you can keep Spike/Daniel in him when he's transformed in robot mode.

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Lol. They store in his arse.

Hehe

Hehe.

[Nevac]

This is the best I can do with the MP a little disappointing you can't get the arm ramps level

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[Jenko21]

They do sit flush, have seen in a video review.

Cant wait to get my grabby hands on him lol

( heavy breathing )

[Nevac]

Can you post this review or a screenshot?

Here's a shot with Hasbro 20th Ann and MP02 have to say I'm very impressed with Magnus so far he's much bigger then I thought and I'm really impressed by how sturdy he is you can grab him by the arms in alt mode and he's solid doesn't flop about at all. My only grips so far are the ramp thing, the waist skirts catching on the cab when you turn it and as others have mentioned the blemishes on the forearms do look off.

I don't mind the buttflap too much it's not as noticeable from the front mainly the rear it sticks out but I guess it'd be nice if it folded up. Also be nice if they included interchangeable bumpers for the cab for those that don't like the red bumper. I mean it's great how it's cartoon accurate but it does look off. I'd say that this MP is the MOST toon accurate MP Transformer to date and I'm thinking that's why so many people are divided on Stack/MP22. I've shown shots of both Stack/MP22 to friends that are not into transformers and they prefer stack in bot mode but we all agree stack's alt mode is quite poor compared to the MP.

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[koolkollectibleskhai]

Here's my review of MP-22 Ultra Magnus! Not without its flaws, but overall still a pretty damn amazing figure that has serious presence on display with the other MPs.

Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus - YouTube (http://youtu.be/OyZQwWqDGG8)

Hope you can check out the review :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Some comparison pics:
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[GoktimusPrime]

Brief review
I also cannot get the upper deck ramp to sit flush on the lower deck either. This is due to the upper deck's ramp being shorter than G1 Ultra Magnus', in order to achieve cartoon-accurate forearms for the robot mode. Both the upper and lower decks of the trailer are also considerably more 'bumpy' than G1 Magnus'. One of the fun things about G1 Ultra Magnus is being able to drive Autobot cars on and off both upper and lower decks; okay, it's not the smoothest ride, but it's generally possible. I don't really find this to be the case with MP22... I personally just pick up the cars and place them into their positions on the trailer, rather than physically rolling them on and off. Basically it seems that concessions were made to the trailer in order to create a more show-like robot mode. G1 Ultra Magnus has a more playable trailer, but an incredibly blocky robot with two points of "Danger, Will Robinson!" articulation. :p But considering that TakaraTOMY were going for:
+ A show-accurate robot mode, and..
+ Integrating the truck cab into the robot
...then I think it's an easily forgivable flaw. My main gripe about the robot mode is the relatively limited shoulder articulation -- I wish it did have some outward articulation. You can make the shoulders go outward a bit through the joints that make the shoulders move up and down during transformation, but they're not "proper" robot articulation points, and it does make the shoulders look dislocated. The faux tyres are an interesting touch, and it does otherwise stop MP22's real wheels from becoming "roller skates." ;) But I suppose you can always leave the real tyres deployed if you want MP22 to skate around. :p Overall this is one bloody fantastic toy. 9.5/10, highly recommended. :D
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More Piccies!

Supah Lasah Blastah!
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The freaky face of Minimus Ambus
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Matrix in chest
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By the Power of Gray--, oh wait... :p
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G1 UM: "Yoink!"
MP22: "Hey!"
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Note: MP10's Matrix lacks the tabs which allow it to sit properly in G1 Prime's/Magnus' chest -- I had to use Blu Tac to secure it in place for this shot; otherwise it just rattles loosely inside the chest cavity
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MP22's new home (and now my Binaltech/Alternators and Alternity shelves are more crowded :p)
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[DELTAprime]

The caps on the top of his shoulders that help stick together the arms in vehicle mode don't stick together on mine. Other than that I like him for the most part. I just wish the guy that made him would not use diecast. Theres no need for it as it just adds dead weight. Also I worry about the shoulder assembly, it's so flimsy and bends easily. Also note that I did not use the instructions and did not break anything like I was told I would.

[GoktimusPrime]

Try fiddling around with it. I found that the first time I transformed him back to robot mode, one of the top caps wasn't in properly, but I fiddled with it and then it fit in fine.

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I've translated the tech specs card:

Function: City Commander
Motto: “Consistency is victory.”
Ultra Magnus sets aside his personal needs to help his comrades, as well as fighting for a complete victory. With great fighting proficiency, Ultra Magnus is courageous and willing to sacrifice himself. A warrior with impeccable skills to support any mission. Serious personality; doesn’t make jokes. Shoulders are equipped with missile launchers which Ultra Magnus uses as his main weapon. Able to accurately hit a target from 50 kilometres.

Strength: 9
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 6
Endurance: 8
Rank: 8
Courage: 9
Firepower: 6
Skill: 8

And just before Xmas I also translated the instruction booklet's bio, which I posted on another thread, but here it is again. ;)

Ultra Magnus toured the ravaged areas of Cybertron, as a Stampbot Ultra Magnus marked his army's emblem in his role as an administrative official. A magnificent warrior, Ultra Magnus was assigned to Earth where he took command of the Scramble City project, which saw the completion of the wondrous giant city robot, Metroplex. Afterwards, Optimus Prime appointed Ultra Magnus as the next commander, but for whatever reason, Ultra Magnus was not chosen by the Matrix. Ultra Magnus acted as an interim commander until he handed command over to the one who had been chosen by the Matrix, Rodimus Prime. From then on, Ultra Magnus used his experience to support the young commander. Ultra Magnus was given the authority to command, but he did not feel that he had the ability to do so, acknowledging that he was just a soldier. For this reason, Ultra Magnus was supportive, always around to listen to the complaints of a worried Rodimus Prime. Seeing Rodimus Prime's talents, Ultra Magnus became respectful and loyal towards him. In his later years, Ultra Magnus, along with Metroplex whom he'd constructed, charged himself with defending Earth, which he loved and died for. His body was buried in the Earth's ocean. However, many decades later, a resurrected Optimus Prime used the Matrix to rebuild Ultra Magnus. Returning as Laser Ultra Magnus, he stood against threats from across the galaxy. Ultra Magnus' motto is, "Fairness is victory." Possessing a just and seriously strong will, Ultra Magnus is a heroic warrior who is beyond reproach and is willing to sacrifice himself for others. Respected by his enemy, Cyclonus, and adored by his fellow Autobots. While lacking in humour, Ultra Magnus is a Transformer who abounds in excellence.

[loophole]

Got mine today, he's pretty cool. And big!! Maybe a smidgin' too big. I might have to repaint the front bumper to a nicer red though it's a little too pink for my tastes...

[Robzy]

I love mine. The flappy flap flap on the back is my ONLY issue. The rest of him is so awesome. He's so big, bulky and cool looking! :o

[DELTAprime]

I'm guessing in Japanese it says "Matrix of Leadership not included". So is he meant to be used with MP9's or MP10's Matrix? I'm guessing MP1's Matrix won't fit but it would be in better scale.

[Krayt]

I'm guessing in Japanese it says "Matrix of Leadership not included". So is he meant to be used with MP9's or MP10's Matrix? I'm guessing MP1's Matrix won't fit but it would be in better scale.

9's is too small.... Only 10'sworks....

My Eva prime arrived a few days before, so I nice red matrix for Magnus!

[DELTAprime]

9's is too small.... Only 10'sworks....

My Eva prime arrived a few days before, so I nice red matrix for Magnus!

Dam, no spare MP10 Matrix's laying around.:(

[Bidoofdude]

MP-22 being a little too big doesn't bother me. Sure, he wasn't quite that tall in the cartoon, but at least the toy was pretty huge compared to everything else in the G1 line.

[GoktimusPrime]

Dam, no spare MP10 Matrix's laying around.:(
I just tried MP22's Matrix hands with New Year Special Convoy's die-cast Matrix; and it's a bit too small, but it should fit in there if you put little bits of Blu-Tac inside the finger grooves. Reissue Galvatron, Galvatron II and Reveal The Shield Battle In Space Rodimus v. Cyclonus all come with variations of the same die-cast Matrix.

Other toys' removable Matrices you might try include:
* Big Convoy; Ultra Mammoth (it would need to be held upside down though)
* MP01 Convoy/Optimus Prime; MP02 Ultra Magnus
* Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Optimus Prime (Leader)
* MP Rodimus Convoy/Prime
* Hybrid Style G1 or Galaxy Convoy
^those last 3 might be too small, I'm not sure.

[millhouse]

I just tried MP22's Matrix hands with New Year Special Convoy's die-cast Matrix; and it's a bit too small, but it should fit in there if you put little bits of Blu-Tac inside the finger grooves. Reissue Galvatron, Galvatron II and Reveal The Shield Battle In Space Rodimus v. Cyclonus all come with variations of the same die-cast Matrix.

Other toys' removable Matrices you might try include:
* Big Convoy; Ultra Mammoth (it would need to be held upside down though)
* MP01 Convoy/Optimus Prime; MP02 Ultra Magnus
* Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Optimus Prime (Leader)
* MP Rodimus Convoy/Prime
* Hybrid Style G1 or Galaxy Convoy
^those last 3 might be too small, I'm not sure.

I understand that the MP-10 matrix, the MP-1 matrix (which was used by the Hasbro 20th anniversary OPs as well as Hasbro MP Rodimus - the larger one of the two) will all work. The die cast matrix, as noted, will not work.

[Smint]

He's a fantastic massive slab of robot. I think he looks much better than the KFC version.

He's relatively cheap considering hes only double the cost of bumblebee.

My only gripes: nub marks on the wrist and weak shoulder joint. The gun is also a bit small.

[CoRDS]

This guy is huge and looks amazing. this is the look ive been after since i was 11.

but i am very disappointed in the quality and lack of articulation. the plastic cut off marks on the arms are a sore point for me along with the terrible hands he comes with. i hope someone makes some new proper hands for this guy.

pitty they couldnt find a way to give him a waste swivel (kfc found a way for theirs), a thigh or knee swivel would have been nice. and some better shoulders as well.


over all. omg he looks fantastic on my shelf but i wish he was more pose-able

[GoktimusPrime]

He's relatively cheap considering hes only double the cost of bumblebee.
A pre-ordered Ultra Magnus is about double the cost of an Australian purchased Bumblebee, yes, however:
* Pre-ordered Ultra Magnus is approximately quadruple the cost of a pre-ordered Bumblebee.
* AU Ultra Magnus will be triple the cost of AU Bumblebee.
* AU Ultra Magnus will be sextuple the cost of pre-ordered Bumblebee.

[laproblematique]

A pre-ordered Ultra Magnus is about double the cost of an Australian purchased Bumblebee, yes, however:
* Pre-ordered Ultra Magnus is approximately quadruple the cost of a pre-ordered Bumblebee.
* AU Ultra Magnus will be triple the cost of AU Bumblebee.
* AU Ultra Magnus will be sextuple the cost of pre-ordered Bumblebee.

Yeah but who pays retail on Transformers? :p

[millhouse]

Dam, no spare MP10 Matrix's laying around.:(

Hence why a few months ago I bought two extra Cybertron Campaign matrixes from eBay when I saw them for (relatively) cheap.

[Firestorm]

Picked this guy up while I was in Japan last month for 13,000 yen. quite a good price for how big he is.
however, his posability is a little lacking in places. but regardless he looks big and imposing.
I was a little disappointed that he couldn't transform into a white optimus and then have the trailer as a suit of armour, but I guess no one is ever going to use him as that form and will want to go straight for the big blue bot right away anyway so it's not so bad. (even if he isn't his IDW design a minimus ambus would have been great too, lol)
I haven't had much of a chance to fiddle with him since I got back from Japan so I haven't tried any of his gimmicks, but even without them Magnus is a very nice figure.
if you can get him for a reasonable price I'd saw even with his flaws (limited posablitiy, car carrier ramps not being able to sit flat, etc) he is definitely worth it.

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

Got him delivered today, haven't played with him 100% yet but one thing that i didn't like was his hands. can't do much with the stiff hands with fingers that aren't poseable.

He's big and his shoulders make him slightly taller than MP-1 Prime.

[Holdobot]

Arrived today :) F*&! me, he is frigging beautiful! As a magnus fan this is my holy grail :)

My wife now thinks she has been downgraded in the order of things I love. She thinks it stands as MP22 then my daughter then her.

[millhouse]

For those interested in MP-22/matrix discussion, I finally went with a Cybertron Campaign matrix (mito?) in each MP-22. I've got one in alt mode and one in robot mode. Further, the "matrix hands" are going to be displayed on a little coin stand holding the larger matrix from Hasbro Rodimus Prime (the one using the MP-1 matrix's mould). I've got a few little bits loose on the temporary display shelf at the moment (Reflector, etc) so it fits in there.

[xlojnr]

my magnus' head is a bit loose. it can fall forward/back if he leans too far in either direction.

But he looks amazing :)

[Magnus]

First, let me say that I'm biased: G1 Ultra Magnus is my favourite Transformer/character, and I've been looking forward to a proper Masterpiece figure of him for a while (MP-2 doesn't really count in my opinion), especially since MP-10's release.

With that out of the way... yes, I think he rocks! Screen-accurate, not a white Prime, solid, chunky, not a 'partsformer' yet has a detachable cab - it's an amazing figure. I can understand why some might be irked by the lack of shoulder articulation, but I accept that that's a limitation of the design.

My only really 'big' gripe is that I think his gun should be longer - it just seems kind of small and stumpy to me.

[Lint]

I wanted to fall in love with this but I have to admit it is a pretty underwhelming Masterpiece unfortunately.

PROS

Impressive size/scale
I liked how the cab folds away in transformation. Improves over the G1 transformation design in a clever way.
They didn't skimp on the rubber tyres
Managed to incorporate the matrix cavity
Clean and tight transformation for the most part
Plastic colours are pretty good


CONS

Blocky and not very poseable. In hand, it is apparent that they could have incorporated more articulation without ruining the toy design but simply didn't.
Bland sculpting compared to other MP's, especially around the trailer. I would have appreciated more vehicle detail such as tail lights which, once again, wouldn't have been that troublesome to implement. The focus on cartoon accuracy also contributes to a pretty bland deco overall.
I don't like how the missile launchers just hang out in alt mode.
Pretty dull accessories for an MP of this size. Also that gun is not very impressive at all.
Not that great an improvement over the G1 design. I expected a better car carrier trailer both in function and sculpted detail, instead of a scaled up version of what already existed. While some may argue that this is paying tribute to the G1 design, I consider it lazy.


He's a giant hunk of wasted potential. Freed from the constraints of working on the relatively miniature scale of the MP cars, Magnus should have been the pièce de résistance for TT, on par with Soundwave. Instead it's like the designers were trying to embody the personality of Magnus himself while designing him. Dull, no frills and functional.

[millhouse]

CONS

I don't like how the missile launchers just hang out in alt mode.


That would likely be my biggest issue with MP-22.

[SharkyMcShark]

Going based entirely from pictures I'm not convinced that this is any better than KFC Citizen Stack aside from solely the cartoon accuracy aspect, and possibly scale depending on which specific source you're going from.

[Facepunches]

If you don't like the launchers on the side, can't you move them to the front of the trailer, or am I missing something?

[millhouse]

If you don't like the launchers on the side, can't you move them to the front of the trailer, or am I missing something?

Not at all, but then it's not cartoon accurate. :P If there was a deeper groove for the arm (holding the launcher) to sit in, it would work better.

[Lint]

If you don't like the launchers on the side, can't you move them to the front of the trailer, or am I missing something?

I've since found this out also which makes me feel somewhat better. It's still a shame that such a neat arrangement cannot be done for the sides though.

[GoktimusPrime]

Toon-accurate launchers on the side...
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Toy-accurate launchers on the front...
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Bland sculpting compared to other MP's, especially around the trailer. I would have appreciated more vehicle detail such as tail lights which, once again, wouldn't have been that troublesome to implement. The focus on cartoon accuracy also contributes to a pretty bland deco overall.
I think you've just explained it there. The blandness is a direct result of show-accuracy. Other MP cars probably have more detailed vehicle modes because of the licensing w/ the vehicle companies, but since Ultra Magnus' trailer is a fictitious design, there's no real-life template for them to base it off. All they have to work off is the simple cartoon design. The cab unit is reasonably detailed as a Freightliner FL86 though. :o

[drifand]

I like Magnus simply because it is a different design.
They tried, while not everyone is happy, a lot are very contented.

[Lint]

....but since Ultra Magnus' trailer is a fictitious design, there's no real-life template for them to base it off. All they have to work off is the simple cartoon design.

I see it the other way, the lack of adherence required to any particular real world design should have given them more freedom to create something cool, or at least complete (gappy thighs for the bottom car carrier deck anyone?). Instead they kind of took the opportunity to be lazy. Besides it isn't like the trailer is super accurate to either toy or show so they didn't really hit the mark there.

I guess I was expecting something more on par with MP Rodimus. With him we got the toy we all wished G1 roddy was back in the day. With Magnus, while there are one or two cool features, I don't think they've done enough with the design to really wow me. That said, I suppose I should just be grateful that they didn't resort to making him a partsformer:)

[Trent]

I see it the other way, the lack of adherence required to any particular real world design should have given them more freedom to create something cool, or at least complete (gappy thighs for the bottom car carrier deck anyone?). Instead they kind of took the opportunity to be lazy. Besides it isn't like the trailer is super accurate to either toy or show so they didn't really hit the mark there.

I guess I was expecting something more on par with MP Rodimus. With him we got the toy we all wished G1 roddy was back in the day. With Magnus, while there are one or two cool features, I don't think they've done enough with the design to really wow me. That said, I suppose I should just be grateful that they didn't resort to making him a partsformer:)

Real world car carriers are gappy as all hell though, even on the bottom deck. They have a massive gap running the entire underside inbetween where the cars wheels run. All the gaps are a weight saving exercise. So the gaps in Magnus are actually correct. In fact he doesn't have enough of them :)

[drifand]

To those who voted only if cheap. Just curious,

How cheap were you expecting? I mean, I gotten mine at $165 delievered, this is a huge figure in mp class. Sure I bought Metroplex at $124, but how cheap were you willing to pay being the release here is going to be $300.

My only wish was TT should have left it in truck mode in the box. lol
This forces me to transform it like all the mp cars I have. I havent gotten the time to play Magnus and have not transformed him yet.

[Lint]

Real world car carriers are gappy as all hell though, even on the bottom deck. They have a massive gap running the entire underside inbetween where the cars wheels run. All the gaps are a weight saving exercise. So the gaps in Magnus are actually correct. In fact he doesn't have enough of them :)

Yeah but the rails that the car wheels sit on don't look like giant robot thighs do they :p

Also they are generally level ;)

One new thing I do appreciate about Magnus is the solidity of his hands. I sincerely hope this is a sign that the age of fingerfall is well and truly over.

[drifand]

To me the hands are okay, feels like KFC will just keep making them the all perfect fingers like what is done on soundwave and mp10
Being white makes it even easier. The thumb can be made movable without popping off IMO .

[Trent]

Why is UM's gun purple? The toy is white and I only ever remember it being white in the cartoon. And if it was white it would better blend in when attached in alt mode.

[drifand]

Why is UM's gun purple? The toy is white and I only ever remember it being white in the cartoon. And if it was white it would better blend in when attached in alt mode.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/050/c/a/ultra_magnus_gun_1_by_ASCHELL.jpg

I think I read somewhere. but thats why. I am not debating about it. If you ask me personaly, I prefered white black or silver but is based on the cartoon accuracy.

[M-bot]

Like has been mentioned, the purple gun is a bit odd. That animation cel Drifand shared is clearly what it's based on but I suspect the animators were trying to make the gun look metallic. It's an art trick, to get certain effects by using colour, rather than an intention to give him a purple gun. The lack of detail in the mould that Lint mentioned is a bit of an issue, and Reprolabels are certain to add a good amount of missing detail, like they did with their MP-10 set. But, as with the MP-10 set, I'm likely to need to shell out a fair bit on money to improve an already expensive toy.

I'm not as concerned about the lack of detail as Lint is, because UM more than makes up for it with his awesome size and genius engineering. It manages to be a solid and gorgeous robot and alt mode*, and the transformation is oh-so-clever - no white Optimus, can entirely transform while cab and trailer are attached while retaining the ability to detatch the cab from the trailer in alt. mode. No way did I imagine the designers would be able to pull that off. Kudos.

The only design flaw I was a bit too disappointed in was some particularly obvious and ugly bits of mould flash, mostly on the front of the firearms and the top of the body around the head. Should be better on a figure that carries the Masterpiece tag.

*The visible "robot thighs" that Lint mentioned are a bit of an issue, but I just imagined someone using this as a selling point for a real car carrier - "It's got visible robot thighs! Cool, hey?";):p

[drifand]

To be frank, if I know nothing about Transformers and I am looking at my display for masterpieces now, Magnus looks to be more like the supreme leader over optimus.

The riffle is again a bit short, but I am used to it.

[GoktimusPrime]

Why is UM's gun purple? The toy is white and I only ever remember it being white in the cartoon. And if it was white it would better blend in when attached in alt mode.
I just made a collage of about 10 screen shot images of Ultra Magnus from TFTM and the G1 cartoon series showing him holding a lavender rifle... then just as I was about to hit save, my computer crashed. (T-T) Take my word for it (or you can scrawl through TFTM/S3 yourself :p), it's purple in the 'toon. :o

I think if Hasbro USA were to ever release this toy, they should definitely go for a more toy-accurate deco w/ chrome bumper, white gun, lighter blue, shin panels coloured in red etc. :)

[drifand]

Mind you, I do agree that the purple was meant to simulate grey or silver.
Sometimes people go over board being toon accurate rather than follow logic.
Well thats what I actually found out in these forums.

[Lint]

I think if Hasbro USA were to ever release this toy, they should definitely go for a more toy-accurate deco w/ chrome bumper, white gun, lighter blue, shin panels coloured in red etc. :)

I'd be down with that :)

Well except for the lighter blue

[drifand]

Question is, Hasbro has been toon accurate most of the time, so why would they suddenly do TT's job? Had to ask.

If its anything, this is made Tokyo exclusive and made to G1 Toy colours. As TT does want to have alternate colours to sell anyway?

[GoktimusPrime]

Mind you, I do agree that the purple was meant to simulate grey or silver.
oh gawd, please don't make a new FIRRIB-like UMRIWUMRIP (Ultra Magnus' Rifle is white Ultra Magnus' rifle is purple) debate! :p </cheek>

Question is, Hasbro has been toon accurate most of the time, so why would they suddenly do TT's job? Had to ask.
Both Hasbro and Takara Tomy switch between different canonical fidelities or even hybridise, depending on the toy. But MP22 is clearly going for toon accuracy.

I'd be down with that :)

Well except for the lighter blue
example of someone who'd prefer a hybrid between show and toon likeness. ;) what colour would you like the eyes to be? Blue like the cartoon & comics, yellow like the G1 box art, or holed or white like the G1 toy? I'd go for yellow.

[drifand]

Come on, who really likes a purple gun? lol

I didn't make a debate on it, as far as I am concerned, you don't like it because of a purple gun then don't buy it, or just show magnus fight bare hands.

As far as debating, its over, the toy is made, don't think a string of arguements will change TT minds at this point.

It becoming quite obvious and maybe a poll should be made,

Do you want your mp

in toon accuracy

in G1 Toy accuracy

Or compromised best of either, up to the designer not what fans think or toon looked.

[M-bot]

oh gawd, please don't make a new FIRRIB-like UMRIWUMRIP (Ultra Magnus' Rifle is white Ultra Magnus' rifle is purple) debate! :p </cheek>

I'm soooo tempted to start a UMRIWUMRIP poll! It'll break the Internet! ;):p:)

[Paulbot]

I'm soooo tempted to start a UMRIWUMRIP poll! It'll break the Internet! ;):p:)

Isn't Umriwumrip a town in the Northern Territory?

[Trent]

I'd be down with that :)

Well except for the lighter blue

The lighter blue would be the only reason I'd buy it!

[Lint]

example of someone who'd prefer a hybrid between show and toon likeness. ;) what colour would you like the eyes to be? Blue like the cartoon & comics, yellow like the G1 box art, or holed or white like the G1 toy? I'd go for yellow.

I would still go with blue, although a face gimmick wouldn't be a bad (or difficult) compromise to make for those who want to choose their preferred.



The lighter blue would be the only reason I'd buy it!

Different strokes for different folks!





Do you want your mp

in toon accuracy

in G1 Toy accuracy

Or compromised best of either, up to the designer not what fans think or toon looked.

When it comes to non-toy or toon accuracy I generally don't mind the Hasbro design team's choice of decos. I find they have pretty good taste. Problem is the budget constraints often don't really give them much to work with. This is improving in the recent Generations line.

[GoktimusPrime]

Come on, who really likes a purple gun? lol
I do. I goes well with the rest of the toon-accurate colours on MP22, and I'm someone who actually prefers toy accuracy over show-accuracy^likeness. But if a toy is going to be show-accurate, then make it as show-accurate as possible. Half-half toy/show accurate toys kinda bug me; I'd much rather it be one or the other.

And hey - it's ULTRA MAGNUS! His motto is "Consistency is victory!" It would be somewhat out of character for him to walk around with a cartoon-accurate body, while wielding a toy-accurate coloured rifle! :D ;) He'd probably have to end up arresting himself for violating the Canonical Cosmetic Adherence Act, and while locking the bars, declare that it was "fully deserved." :p
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/sigpic_ultramagnus_milreg.jpg

I didn't make a debate on it, as far as I am concerned, you don't like it because of a purple gun then don't buy it, or just show magnus fight bare hands.
Or paint it white. ;)


As far as debating, its over, the toy is made, don't think a string of arguements will change TT minds at this point.

It becoming quite obvious and maybe a poll should be made,

Do you want your mp

in toon accuracy

in G1 Toy accuracy

Or compromised best of either, up to the designer not what fans think or toon looked.
If only TakaraTOMY would make such a poll -- oh wait, they HAVE! Okay, granted it's now geoblocked, but we've had 10 years to submit feedback via these surveys about stuff like this. I'm more miffed over not being able to submit more direct feedback about the more recent MPs, and also not being able to continue voting on and nominating for future characters. But as far as toy/show accuracy? We've had a long time to tell TakTOM about what we think about that.

I'm just posting my MP wishes on TakaraTOMY's FB page (https://www.facebook.com/takaratomytoys) now; but no idea if they pay any attention to that. :o

[drifand]

Either way, is beginning to frustrate people wish for either accuracy and I am a bit shocked that there isn't a standard. This way is easy for everyone to collect rather than one wait for the other to happen.

Takara has not bother to add paint apps to the mp-10,
Don't they know that the ko version is looking better?

I know, it is what it is, I am just surprised there isn't a fight for improvements.

[GoktimusPrime]

Either way, is beginning to frustrate people wish for either accuracy and I am a bit shocked that there isn't a standard. This way is easy for everyone to collect rather than one wait for the other to happen.
Curious (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20211)...


Don't they know that the ko version is looking better?
Great question. You should (https://www.facebook.com/takaratomytoys) ask them (http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/support/other.html). :cool:

[KalEl]

Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKO-eMIuol4

It's Mother F'N ULTRA MAGNUS! Whoa! Takara have hit this release way out of the park, with an awesomely accurate and badass Masterpiece of the City commander himself; Ultra Magnus.
As I write this, I have just received both Masterpiece Ultra Magnus and Masterpiece Bumblebee (Bumble). Both releases are incredible (more coverage on bumble soon). Magnus is a massive beefcake of beefynus, he hits the animation model perfectly with many improvements of course.

With both complex and quite simple engineering incorporated, magnus is quite intuitive to transform to and from both modes, the cab transformation may give you a little grief initially but then its a piece of cake. The biggest things to watch whilst transforming are to be careful when rotating the smoke stacks. But the biggest thing to be very careful and mindful is transforming the pelvis plate back and forth as it easily is stressed and in some instances it has broken on copies of the toy. My advice is applying even and gradual pressure whiles rotating the joint as close to the hinge as possible. Stress marks may still appear but it should help in the long run. One tip is leave the plate in its robot mode position permanently as it doesn't overly affect the overall aesthetics. See the tutorial video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6o7-K1Rd9w

Overall articulation is great considering how big and blocky Magnus is, the only thing he is really 'missing' is a waist rotation but that is really nit picking. Also with big slabs or diecast for his feet, Magnus is ULTRA stable. See what I did there haha. In truck mode, the car carrier is fully functional just the its G1 predecessor as well as a detachable cab with spots for Spike and Daniel to ride along. The carrier mode is capable of carrying four masterpiece cars (with the exception of hotrod/rodimus) or similar sized transformers.

One let down of a figure of this kind and price is the visible sprue marks in various place of Magnus body, most egregious being on his forearms. It may have been unavoidable but I wish more care was taken in removing them from the injection moulded sprue.

Overall Ultra Magnus is an A1 release and well worth picking up. I personally thing at a sub $200 price tag, he is great value for your dollars.

View full Gallery here:
https://kalelreviews.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/transformers-masterpiece-mp-22-ultra-magnus-video-review-and-gallery/

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[drifand]

Believe it or not, I enjoyed transforming him over mp-10 prime.

[KalEl]

Believe it or not, I enjoyed transforming him over mp-10 prime.

Same.

[philby]

I got mine today and I love it :) I never owned an old Ultra Magnus, the only one I have is the Fall Of Cybertron version and I haven't even taken it off the card yet.

I haven't had much time to play with it much, just transformed it once from robot to car carrier which was enjoyable but slightly fiddly at the same time. nothing too bad though.

I'm not sure where people are getting the 'bland' from, he's got sculpted detail all along the sides and back?

I will agree on a couple of perhaps 'missed opportunities' in that the arms don't quite get down to the lower level of the trailer and that the cab/trailer aren't interact-able with the MP-10 cab/trailer.

other than that though I love it, he's huge! :)

[Deno]

This figure is fantastic and is a awesome masterpiece addition to the line.

thank you for the detailed pictures :D

I really hope Takara/Tomy produce Galvatron and Cyclonus.

cheers to all

[M-bot]

As predicted, Reprolabels has released a rather large add-on set which enhances UM substantially. At $22USD a pop, it is a fairly high price for a set of stickers for what is an already expensive toy, but well worth it in my view.

[Lint]

As predicted, Reprolabels has released a rather large add-on set which enhances UM substantially. At $22USD a pop, it is a fairly high price for a set of stickers for what is an already expensive toy, but well worth it in my view.

I might actually bite on this. Magnus looks way too plain as is and applying just a fraction of the stickers used will go a long way to improve his aesthetics!

[CoRDS]

HANDS HANDS HANDS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KFC10055&mode=retail


kfc are making some. YAY

added to POL :)

[GoktimusPrime]

Comparison between the front and back covers of TakaraTOMY's and Hasbro's MP22 Ultra Magnus instruction booklets. 'scuse the grainy night time mobile pics. :o

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/masterpiece%20ultra%20magnus/mp_magnus_instructions_compar1_zpszqcqfdx8.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/masterpiece%20ultra%20magnus/mp_magnus_instructions_compar2_zpsta2j56ny.jpg

[drifand]

HANDS HANDS HANDS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KFC10055&mode=retail


kfc are making some. YAY

added to POL :)

Australian dollars are not great, I will pass for now

[kjavis]

nice figure, will have to pick one up, cheers for the review

[Chevron Action Flash]

Finally got this guy at TrU. Looks amazing on the shelf. As with all my MP's he'll probably never get transformed as I just find the experience too stressful!

My only small gripe (apart from the sprue marks) are the white shin panels. They are meant to sit in front of the blue tabs on the lower legs but in that position they are quite loose. I'd prefer to tuck them behind the tabs as a few others have demonstrated in photos. Any downside to doing this? It makes them super tight but I don't wanna stress the panels by tucking them behind the blue tabs.

Cheers.

[drifand]

Finally got this guy at TrU. Looks amazing on the shelf. As with all my MP's he'll probably never get transformed as I just find the experience too stressful!

My only small gripe (apart from the sprue marks) are the white shin panels. They are meant to sit in front of the blue tabs on the lower legs but in that position they are quite loose. I'd prefer to tuck them behind the tabs as a few others have demonstrated in photos. Any downside to doing this? It makes them super tight but I don't wanna stress the panels by tucking them behind the blue tabs.

Cheers.

I found this to be one of the easiest and interesting transforming Transformers. You might be being too soft on the toy.

[DaptoDog]

I know I'm super late to the party here but I have to chip in my 2 cents worth now that I have finally popped the seal on my 2nd copy that I picked up from TRU.

Being my all-time favourite character I am ecstatic by how he looks and feels out of the box. The bot mode is so gorgeously G1 chunky! I also had fun transforming him to his car carrier mode, got a little stuck on the arm extension like some have also commented on. Now to find space for it on my Masterpiece shelf. :D