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Jetfire in the sky
24th February 2015, 12:15 PM
So with Botcon on it's way soon I'm wondering who Ozformers think should go into the Hall of Fame this year.
Here is the list of current past inductees at TF Wikihttp://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Hall_of_Fame

I think it's great that Dinobot was put in the first year among some of the true legends and we have two other Beast Wars Characters with the rest G1 in the following years.

I would love to see Sky Byte go in, his character is so good in the Rid cartoon, comedic evil Predacon with a soft heart.
A haiku in support of him going in.

Sky Byte the great shark
Funny evil predacon
Hall of fame this year

BigTransformerTrev
9th March 2015, 09:03 PM
I dunno, I kinda lost interest in 2011 when they put Michael Bay and Steven Speilberg in - way to suck up Hasbro :mad::(


At least now they are all fan picked. If I had to vote I'd vote for:

Devestator
Jetfire
Bruticus
Kup
Frank Welker

Jetfire in the sky
9th March 2015, 09:23 PM
Yeah putting Bay and Speilberg is a major suck up.

I was thinking since the passing of Leonard Nimoy he would be a good posthumous inductee, and yes Welker needs to go in for sure.

Hey BTT I listened to your radio thing where you won. I absolutely despise commercial radio but your five minutes was extremely funny and entertaining.

griffin
9th March 2015, 10:29 PM
We certainly need more humans inducted, as Hasbro have burnt through the most iconic characters now, so people aren't as passionate if most of their favourites are already in.

BigTransformerTrev
9th March 2015, 10:47 PM
I was thinking since the passing of Leonard Nimoy he would be a good posthumous inductee, and yes Welker needs to go in for sure.


Damn - cant believe I didn't think of that! Change my vote to Nimoy 100%!



Hey BTT I listened to your radio thing where you won. I absolutely despise commercial radio but your five minutes was extremely funny and entertaining.

Thanks man, that's nice of ya :) Wanted either laughs or the cash so was happy to get both :D I actually hate commercial radio too, I only listen to cds or JJJ when driving but my gf at the time was a FoxFM fan and urged me to enter that comp ;)


We certainly need more humans inducted, as Hasbro have burnt through the most iconic characters now, so people aren't as passionate if most of their favourites are already in.

True. I was looking at the previous Decepticon winners and the big 4 were already there (Megs, Screamer, Shock & Sound) so was having to think who else I would want in rather than it being an automatic response. But besides Welker & Nimoy I cant think of any other humans that I would want to vote for that aren't already in there (Cullen, Furman etc)

Firestorm
9th March 2015, 11:16 PM
For characters I feel like most of the iconic G1 characters have already been indicted. So my choices are from my favourite era of transformers, the beast era.
Optimus Primal deserves a spot in the HOF after everything he achieved over beast wars and beast machines. Having been thrust into the role of leadership and taking on a charismatic tyrant like megatron he not only saved Cybertron from Megatron's rule but saved he Optimus Prime and the fabric of time itself. Not to mention bringing about a new techno-organic age to Cybertron.
Then there's Rattrap just as a character I like (and my first toy) plus playing roles in the beast era and now also IDW he deserves a spot.

For humans
David Kaye: being one of the only people to have played both an Optimus and a Megatron and also providing several popular character voices (like lugnut for example) he deserves a spot. And clearly he loves having played Megatron. Why else would he record megatron Christmas carols every year?
James Roberts: for being the mastermind writer of some of the most popular pieces of transformers fiction ever (LSotW and MTMTE)
And a posthumous spot for Leonard Nimoy

Sinnertwin
9th March 2015, 11:36 PM
Leonard Nimoy? Really?

BigTransformerTrev
10th March 2015, 12:26 AM
Leonard Nimoy? Really?

Totally! He did the voice for the main and most interesting bad guy in two TF movies 25 years apart! Freakin legend!

There are bigger real human names in the TF world admittedly, but besides Welker all the ones I can think of that I'd like to see as a fan have already been done

griffin
10th March 2015, 12:45 AM
True. I was looking at the previous Decepticon winners and the big 4 were already there (Megs, Screamer, Shock & Sound) so was having to think who else I would want in rather than it being an automatic response. But besides Welker & Nimoy I cant think of any other humans that I would want to vote for that aren't already in there (Cullen, Furman etc)

Nimoy is a bit of a knee-jerk at the moment, but including him is like including Spielberg, as it is a big name but has had limited involvement compared to other people in that area (in the case of voice acting, Nimoy was two short roles, while there are dozens of VAs who have done more for Transformers over the 30 years).


This was a list of people I think should have some acknowledgement that I posted up on TFW for "Pete's topic", noting that some polarising/infamous people here shouldn't win a fan-vote or be inducted, but should be recognised as a catalyst at one time that was instrumental for the rise of popularity of the Brand to the point that we wouldn't get to the point of having Movies if they hadn't been involved with the Brand.

Frank Welker (one would expect him be inducted soon, being equally, or more significant to the Brand and fandom than existing inductees Peter Cullen and Chris Latta, because he brought to life by voice, more iconic characters than those two combined),
Aaron Archer (creator of the Unicron Trilogy era),
Eric Siebenaler (designer of Animated & Classics toys),
More of the TakaraTomy toy engineers, especially current ones like Kobayashi, Hasui and Yuki (but too many to mention... they are the brilliant minds who do the hard work of creating/engineering all the parts for the convertible toys from Hasbro concept drawings, but Hasbro people are the ones most known and credited - so this would be a great way to make them more well known in the fandom and get the credit they deserve),
Derrick Wyatt (creator of Animated),
Bob Forward & Larry Ditillio (writers/creators of much of Beast Wars & the first official people to interact with fans during their run that led to fans shaping the direction of the series with Gen1 references and taking on Furman and Yee in the 3rd season),
Don Figueroa (War Within story and designs spawned toys and an ongoing "Cybertronian" Style since then),
Other long term or iconic artists (like Andrew Wildman, Geoff Senior, etc.),
John Barber (driving vision for almost a decade of Transformers comics),
Pat Lee (unfortunately, he was a catalyst for the pre-Movie surge of popularity in the Brand by the general public with their record-breaking comics, justifying the investment in a live-action movie... so should be recognised with a nomination, but NOT be inducted),
Jon & Karl Hartman (for creating the legacy of BotCon),
Glen Hallit (despite how it ended, he was still a driving element of BotCon's middle-era expansion and it's success in the fandom during those years),
Brian Savage (good or bad, his company kept BotCon alive after 3H),
Pete Sinclair (the Transformers fan on staff during the FunPub era, responsible for much of the last 10 years story and toys/characters),
Ben Yee & Dave Van Domelon (the people who helped get the "trukk not munky" fandom to accept Beast Wars in 1995/1996),
Greg Lombardo (the face of Hasbro to the fans during much of the FunPub BotCon era),
Raksha (for bringing balance to the allegiances when the fandom was almost all pro-Autobot in the early years of the online fandom, before Beast Wars).


Unfortunately, some of those are now almost mythical in the fandom as being long gone in the fandom... but still should be recognised for what they've done or contributed to Transformers and/or the Fandom, even if it is like "posthumously".

Bladestorm
10th March 2015, 01:32 AM
Frank Welker.

He is well overdue and should have been inducted with or quickly after Peter Cullen.
Most of my fave Transformers are already inducted so I don't really mind who gets put up in terms of bots.

griffin
10th March 2015, 01:53 AM
Most of my fave Transformers are already inducted so I don't really mind who gets put up in terms of bots.

That's the problem that I was noting... the passion is now gone by most, now that twenty-something of the most iconic characters are already inducted (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hall_of_Fame).

Ode to a Grasshopper
10th March 2015, 09:06 AM
Yeah, I'd leave Nimoy as an 'honorable mention' or something. James Roberts gets my vote.

Character-wise, I'd like to see Ravage included.

BigTransformerTrev
10th March 2015, 09:32 AM
Nimoy is a bit of a knee-jerk at the moment, but including him is like including Spielberg, as it is a big name but has had limited involvement compared to other people in that area (in the case of voice acting, Nimoy was two short roles, while there are dozens of VAs who have done more for Transformers over the 30 years).


I don't think he is a knee-jerk reaction at all. Its the hall of fame and besides Frank Welker and Don Figueroa I haven't even heard of most of those other guys, and if I have its certainly not been enough to stick in the memory.



Totally! He did the voice for the main and most interesting bad guy in two TF movies 25 years apart! Freakin legend!



I think thats a damn fine reason for him to be in there! Plus from a personal point of view he (sorta) won me $500! And Jetfire's thread was about who we would like to see in there ;)

Bladestorm
10th March 2015, 12:19 PM
That's the problem that I was noting... the passion is now gone by most, now that twenty-something of the most iconic characters are already inducted (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hall_of_Fame).

The thing is... there are other characters I adore who have played smaller roles... Jetfire/Skyfire... but has he done enough within the franchise to warrant a spot in the hall of fame?

To me getting into the hall of fame should be about contributing something significant to the franchise/storyline/universe... it's a title to be earned, not simply rewarded because you're not included yet...

Do characters have to be included in the honour roll every year?
Obviously as time goes on and storylines expand other bots have the opportunity to prove their worth to be inducted...

Jetfire in the sky
10th March 2015, 04:01 PM
I think if it's limited to two character and two human inductees per year then there may be more interest, obviously 2010 was a bit of a crack a boner moment with such a great idea and they went a bit nuts.

Ravage for this year would be great, such an iconic character, one who spoke in the original comics but not in the cartoon and of course Jetfire/Skyfire I'm going to be biased towards but perhaps not deserving this early, I like the idea of later cartoon series characters going in, it brings in the *cough* younger Transfans among us.

Griff you have listed many worthy names some I know and some I would have to Google but I think for you to say that to induct Nimoy this year would be a knee jerk reaction is way off. As a 9 year old I didn't know what a voice actor was and apart from Cullen (for me known as the voice of Optimus Prime back then, not by his name) popping up in Voltron I never recognised any other voice in a cartoon, but when I heard that "Spock" would be one of the voices in TFTM I was so excited and I remember kids who weren't interested in Transformers (yes they did exist) talking about the movie because Spock was Galvatron. Nimoy early on also crossed the boundary from pop/nerd culture to the mainstream, yes not uniquely a Transformers thing but thanks to the Bay Movies Transformers has like Nimoy transcended from pop/nerdom to the mainstream making it the juggernaught it is today.
Anyway I'm waffling on to much here and everyone will have an opinion, but it's all good discussion because of our passion for Transformers :):)
So say we all.
Oh, whoops. BSG outburst :p

griffin
10th March 2015, 04:44 PM
I didn't mean to offend anyone, as I do agree that Nimoy is significant, and a big name for added publicity to the general public as well... I was just noting that we've had a lot of other Voice Actors do more, and that Welker actually voiced Galvatron a lot more than Nimoy did, but that short period of the Movie seems to be more memorable.

My "knee jerk" comment is because I've been seeing in recent weeks on fansites that all sorts of tributes should be done by Hasbro and Takara, like fast-tracking a Galvatron Masterpiece toy... which to me doesn't make much sense because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have never done that with any other lost Voice Actor, and personally Welker was more Galvatron than Nimoy, as Nimoy's "exclusive" character to me was Sentinel Prime.

If the time is right, or there is a publicity benefit, Nimoy would be a worthy inductee whenever it was eventually going to happen... I just didn't want it to happen this year just because he died, because it would mean that he wasn't going to be inducted this year if he was still alive, cheapening his contribution as being a reason to induct him.

BigTransformerTrev
10th March 2015, 06:33 PM
I didn't mean to offend anyone, as I do agree that Nimoy is significant, and a big name for added publicity to the general public as well... I was just noting that we've had a lot of other Voice Actors do more, and that Welker actually voiced Galvatron a lot more than Nimoy did, but that short period of the Movie seems to be more memorable.

My "knee jerk" comment is because I've been seeing in recent weeks on fansites that all sorts of tributes should be done by Hasbro and Takara, like fast-tracking a Galvatron Masterpiece toy... which to me doesn't make much sense because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have never done that with any other lost Voice Actor, and personally Welker was more Galvatron than Nimoy, as Nimoy's "exclusive" character to me was Sentinel Prime.

If the time is right, or there is a publicity benefit, Nimoy would be a worthy inductee whenever it was eventually going to happen... I just didn't want it to happen this year just because he died, because it would mean that he wasn't going to be inducted this year if he was still alive, cheapening his contribution as being a reason to induct him.

I don't think you've offended anyone mate. It's just Jetfire and I trying to prove our point so don't stress in that regard ;)

I disagree about the timing, I think this year is the ONLY year where having Nimoy would not seem gratuitous. I don't think there would be a lot of point in subsequent years because he will have been dead and gone a while. But this year, while its fresh, its a chance for TF fans everywhere to say "You may have been a Trekkie icon, but you meant a lot to us Transfans too. Thank you Leanoard, you were a legend and we will miss you". I think it would showcase the love and respect a lot of us had for the man. I wont say that as both a Trekkie & Transfan fanboy that I physically shed a tear, but I was upset and saddened to hear that he had passed and it would mean a lot to me as both a fan of his and the TF's if he got inducted this year. I really should find out how to vote.

However your point about Welker being a more important voice actor in the TF world is spot on the money and in fact in my original post in this thread he was the only human I mentioned. I think the two of them getting in this year would be the right call, especially given that pretty much all the universally accepted iconic TF characters are already in there.

Jetfire in the sky
11th March 2015, 08:52 AM
I don't think you've offended anyone mate. It's just Jetfire and I trying to prove our point so don't stress in that regard ;)

I disagree about the timing, I think this year is the ONLY year where having Nimoy would not seem gratuitous. I don't think there would be a lot of point in subsequent years because he will have been dead and gone a while. But this year, while its fresh, its a chance for TF fans everywhere to say "You may have been a Trekkie icon, but you meant a lot to us Transfans too. Thank you Leanoard, you were a legend and we will miss you". I think it would showcase the love and respect a lot of us had for the man. I wont say that as both a Trekkie & Transfan fanboy that I physically shed a tear, but I was upset and saddened to hear that he had passed and it would mean a lot to me as both a fan of his and the TF's if he got inducted this year. I really should find out how to vote.

However your point about Welker being a more important voice actor in the TF world is spot on the money and in fact in my original post in this thread he was the only human I mentioned. I think the two of them getting in this year would be the right call, especially given that pretty much all the universally accepted iconic TF characters are already in there.

I'll second all of that :)
Also I understand your comment better now Griffin with all other comments on other pages, which they sound, well, illogical :p;) An MP Galvatron should be done but we need a re-scaled Megs first imho.

Hursticon
15th March 2015, 10:04 PM
Optimus Primal would get my vote, then Transmutate. :cool:

UltimateGalvatron
17th March 2015, 08:21 AM
I'd vote for a human David Kaye, I know its not the same as Welker, I'm just used to his voice and I think it fits.

For a Transformer I'd vote Metroplex for an Autobot (Metroplex heeds the call of the Last Prime!) and I think I'd go Thundercracker for a Decepticon.
By far my fav Seeker.

UltraMarginal
17th March 2015, 11:04 AM
wait, what!? Frank Welker isn't in the Hall of Fame yet?

my vote: Frank Welker
While I idolised Leonard Nimoy, it was largely for Star Trek and I think including him in the Transformers Hall of Fame this year would lessen the value of his nomination and also the Hall of Fame. He did do Iconic work, but it was for two characters.

without Frank Welker there probably wouldn't still be transformers.

Non human nomination: Thundercracker.

BigTransformerTrev
20th March 2015, 08:28 PM
At least now they are all fan picked. If I had to vote I'd vote for:

Devestator
Jetfire
Bruticus
Kup
Frank Welker



I was thinking since the passing of Leonard Nimoy he would be a good posthumous inductee, and yes Welker needs to go in for sure.






Frank Welker (one would expect him be inducted soon, being equally, or more significant to the Brand and fandom than existing inductees Peter Cullen and Chris Latta, because he brought to life by voice, more iconic characters than those two combined),


Frank Welker.

He is well overdue and should have been inducted with or quickly after Peter Cullen.


wait, what!? Frank Welker isn't in the Hall of Fame yet?

my vote: Frank Welker

without Frank Welker there probably wouldn't still be transformers.





Sounds like if it was up to Ozformers members that Welker would be a shoe-in!

So, how do we actually vote? Or is the voting reserved for Botcon attendee's or something?

griffin
20th March 2015, 11:41 PM
Nominations for the shortlist is reserved for a selected handful of American fansites. Then the final voting round from that shortlist in the last couple years has been through the Hasbro website (or facebook last year I think).

Megatran
21st March 2015, 06:28 PM
Megan Fox
Rachael Taylor
Rosie Huntington-Whiteley

Oh wait .... I wasn't thinking. I'm feeling light headed.

Hursticon
22nd March 2015, 10:03 PM
Megan Fox
Rachael Taylor
Rosie Huntington-Whiteley

Oh wait .... I wasn't thinking. I'm feeling light headed.

...blood all drained to a different part of the body perhaps? :p:D