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Krayt
26th February 2015, 11:57 PM
Just saw this on FB, original source looks to be Cyberton Philippines page, but unsure...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-xZhsOUMAAbwiZ.jpg

Interesting.... Very interesting

Krayt
26th February 2015, 11:59 PM
P.S. I dub the... Thrustwing!!!

Starscream77
27th February 2015, 12:00 AM
Yes interesting

Anyone know of the reason for Blitzwings colour? Is it a comic thing?

Paulbot
27th February 2015, 12:06 AM
It's not a comic thing, unless some Shattered Glass comic thing. Astrotrain's colours look familiar but I can think what they remind me of.

To me Blitzwing looks more like Flywheels. And I ask myself would I buy a G1 Blitzwing reprinted as Flywheels and I think the answer is probably yes.

DELTAprime
27th February 2015, 12:25 AM
And here I was hoping Astrotrain would be in Ehobby colours. Oh well.

Krayt
27th February 2015, 12:33 AM
In issue 4 of the war within comic, 3 tank-ish bots were miscoloured, and were corrected in the TPB version. But brawl looks like he has Blitzwings new colours....

http://www.bwtf.com/comicbook-images/dreamwave/ww4/montage.jpg

griffin
27th February 2015, 01:12 AM
Ewwww... what is that orange/white mish-mash monstrosity.

Blitzwing is too obscured to judge, but the red is a bit too bright for my liking.

They both look like badly coloured KOs... but considering the first two Platinums for this year (YOTG Soundwave & Optimus), these will fit right in.

Compared to those three sets, it's almost out of place having the Insecticons in Gen1 colours.

fatbot
27th February 2015, 07:29 AM
When I first saw the picture, I thought they were the autobot clones. I loved it, thinking they reissued Fastlane & Cloudraker, then i looked closer & saw that its Blitzwing & Astrotrain...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1013286_10205564215362497_9072714046198004621_n.jp g?oh=1d3bb8495e788286e29a92b63c122673&oe=5582F780&__gda__=1435509695_1f5a02586c3de16eb9b88bac712565b 7

Lint
27th February 2015, 08:25 AM
Ewwww... what is that orange/white mish-mash monstrosity.



I'd still hit it :p

I don't really mind the look of Thrustwing and Nerfotrain and given that I don't own a G1 version of either I could be tempted to pick this up.

Shirokaze
27th February 2015, 08:29 AM
Oh dear.... I'd like to have been in the room during the design pitch for these :p

Krayt
27th February 2015, 09:38 AM
Oh dear.... I'd like to have been in the room during the design pitch for these :p

Could have been other internal issues....

"Oh no, NERF sales are down.... quick, how can we use up 3 tons of bright orange plastic pellets?"

Or...

"You idiot!!!! you ordered 20 years worth of plastic!!! you better hope we can palm some off to the TF geeks"

GoktimusPrime
27th February 2015, 09:40 AM
Someone pass me a bucket, I need to throw up. :rolleyes:

Krayt
27th February 2015, 10:12 AM
Someone pass me a bucket, I need to throw up. :rolleyes:

hahahaha.....

You know how you ALWAYS seem to have carrot when you spew.... maybe Astrotrain is providing the token orange :p

Sinnertwin
27th February 2015, 10:26 AM
ha ha! :D

ha!

where do i preorder?

5FDP
27th February 2015, 11:54 AM
Yeeeeeeeah.... pass.

Thank you Hasbro for saving me some money.

Hursticon
27th February 2015, 12:16 PM
A bloke on Twitter has suggested that Astrotrain is reminiscent of G2 Starscream's deco, if one takes into account the Sound Pack that came with that figure. :eek:

The hue of Orange may be off, but I think it's otherwise a suitable suggestion. :)

Golden Phoenix
27th February 2015, 12:25 PM
It isn't any worse than those silly "Year of the X" repaints they have been doing.

Krayt
27th February 2015, 01:37 PM
Well, next CNY is the Monkey.... maybe they got a jump on the Deco, and these are "Painted by Bobo the Chimp"

griffin
27th February 2015, 03:14 PM
Nerf... that's the familiar thing that Astrotrain looks like. White, orange and purple.

Still doesn't justify it, so hopefully there is a reason behind these odd colours noted on the box (in the "bio" on the back), because it will be a question by the fans next BotCon.

Golden Phoenix
27th February 2015, 03:56 PM
Well, next CNY is the Monkey.... maybe they got a jump on the Deco, and these are "Painted by Bobo the Chimp"

So expect lots of browns and yellows? :P

Zommael
27th February 2015, 04:12 PM
I like 'em. But then, I have a tendency to like crazy, out there, interesting decos. My main problem with Geewunism is how boring everything tends to look when it's just in the usually realisitic original colours.

griffin
27th February 2015, 05:01 PM
I don't have a problem with redecos, as long as it can be plausibly explained - like mirror-verse, pre-transformers, cartoon/comic colouring, background character using the same form, or simply replicating an animation error colouring... plus, reissues of the original toy colours after enough time since the last release (if reissued before) will always draw sales from people who can now afford to buy that mould, or are needing to replace their older toys, or just newer fans looking to buy "originals".

There is often so much to choose from, to not need to create something new that isn't planned to be included in fiction somewhere. Almost all of the ehobby redecos from about 10 years ago were based on pre-transformers or something in the cartoon or comics... which is what made them so highly sought after.
Ehobby even launched the character of Sunstorm, basing the toy on a 5-second redeco on the cartoon, that Dreamwave picked up the following year and turned into a feature character that Hasbro has been homaging in toys ever since (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sunstorm).

Zommael
27th February 2015, 05:47 PM
I don't have a problem with redecos, as long as it can be plausibly explained - like mirror-verse, pre-transformers, cartoon/comic colouring, background character using the same form, or simply replicating an animation error colouring... plus, reissues of the original toy colours after enough time since the last release (if reissued before) will always draw sales from people who can now afford to buy that mould, or are needing to replace their older toys, or just newer fans looking to buy "originals".

There is often so much to choose from, to not need to create something new that isn't planned to be included in fiction somewhere. Almost all of the ehobby redecos from about 10 years ago were based on pre-transformers or something in the cartoon or comics... which is what made them so highly sought after.
Ehobby even launched the character of Sunstorm, basing the toy on a 5-second redeco on the cartoon, that Dreamwave picked up the following year and turned into a feature character that Hasbro has been homaging in toys ever since (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sunstorm).

I'm really completely fine with redecoes in whatever colours the toy maker's want. It doesn't have to be based on anything in particular. My opinion is that basing everything on something that's come before is a surefire recipe for stagnation; eventually, everything will have been done and there'll be nothing else for new figures to be based on. On the other hand, say this set sells out everywhere and is super hard to find; in ten years, people will be lapping up the 40th anniversary Generations Astrotrain and Blitzwing figures that are made in these colours. The line has to find ways to keep innovating.

But I've always been that way. As a kid, I wanted the gold Batman from Batman Returns purely because GOLD. I'd rather have something that's new and different and interesting than the "classic" colours. I've made entire JLA and Avengers lineups with ML and DCUC figures that are in their "alternate" costumes, and I always pick the strange redeco over the first run of the toy. Even today, I'm looking at getting my hands on G2 Sideswipe, Gold Bumblebee, Exhaust, and even that Silverstreak redeco that's just silver from the Masterpiece line because they're not in the standard colours. It makes my collection look and feel different to other people's.

Bidoofdude
27th February 2015, 09:26 PM
Oh well, disappointing that they're not in cartoon colours. I wonder if these will really sell at all. Blitzwing could maybe be the SG version for people into the universe.

Lord_Zed
27th February 2015, 11:42 PM
I kinda like them, though I need a better look and they look like Autobots, or Diaclones that never were. I'm sure It will probably bug the hell out of people wanting to plug holes in their G1 collection, but for me this is the first time In years I've seen something interesting done with a g1 reissue, there usually as dull as can be as mandated by the fans because something different is bad.

GoktimusPrime
27th February 2015, 11:54 PM
Hasbro: gives us Blitzwing in Thrust's colours and Astrotrain in G2 Starscream's colours.
Takara: gave us Blitzwing in Diaclone colours (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Overcharge_%28G1%29) and Astrotrain in cartoon colours (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/Astrotrain/astrotrain.htm).

Glad I went with the 2nd choice. ;) :D

Tfiguy
28th February 2015, 12:22 AM
I'm in!

GoktimusPrime
28th February 2015, 07:31 AM
Some are saying that Astrotrain's colours are based on Shuttler (RiD Mo-Vor). Well this has tenfolded my interest in this toy (10*0) :p

Megatran
28th February 2015, 08:43 PM
Personally, I don't object to repaints nor is it essential to have a backstory, although it would help to draw the connection & sell the toy. I've always been a sucker for the many repaints of the G1 Optimus Prime cab.

What really interest me is Hasbro's approval process in deciding to go ahead with the colour scheme for these Triplechangers. Perhaps the boss' son makes the final call. :p

Defcon
28th February 2015, 09:09 PM
I welcome the color scheme on Blitzwing, as I really love those colours because they remind me of thrust. But I'm still scratching my head over Astrotrain's deco :confused:

griffin
28th February 2015, 09:43 PM
Hasbro: gives us Blitzwing in Thrust's colours and Astrotrain in G2 Starscream's colours.
Takara: gave us Blitzwing in Diaclone colours (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Overcharge_%28G1%29) and Astrotrain in cartoon colours (http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/Astrotrain/astrotrain.htm).

Glad I went with the 2nd choice. ;) :D


Some are saying that Astrotrain's colours are based on Shuttler (RiD Mo-Vor). Well this has tenfolded my interest in this toy (10*0) :p

I see people on various sites trying to help explain the colours, but no one seems to be coming up with anything close.
Movor (http://www.tfu.info/2001/Decepticon/Movor/movor.htm) was probably closest, but neither mode matches the arrangement of the colours on this Astrotrain (the orange is on the wrong side of the shuttle mode, and is the legs instead of chest in robot mode).
And Gen2 Starscream (http://www.tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Starscream/starscream.htm) would go with Thrust.... but why one Gen1 and one Gen2... it kinda ruins the point of a homage 2-pack that doesn't homage the same era.

GoktimusPrime
28th February 2015, 10:07 PM
I see people on various sites trying to help explain the colours, but no one seems to be coming up with anything close.
This (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5131/1758/320/%5Bsimpsons%5D%20Classic%20moment%20makeupgun.jpg) :p

MayzaPrime
1st March 2015, 07:03 PM
This (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5131/1758/320/%5Bsimpsons%5D%20Classic%20moment%20makeupgun.jpg) :p

Hahaha... Hasbro does have it set on the whore setting :D

griffin
18th March 2015, 02:33 PM
From a Brazillian product catalogue that is probably for the eyes of Retailers only, comes images of Blitzwing and Astrotrain in both modes (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/new-stock-images-of-platinum-edition-g1-triple-changers-blitzwing-astrotrain-reissues-182294/)... in all their oddly coloured glory.


Blitzwing might well be coloured to homage Thrust, but it still isn't obvious or necessary... as they are releasing Thrust this year as well, so don't need a stand-in homage toy.
Astrotrain's homage is still up for debate.

Starscream77
18th March 2015, 03:52 PM
I may be alone in this but I actually like the look of Astrotrain, not sure why but it just jumps out at me

Blitzwing reminds me of a market KO though

The_Black_Sheep
18th March 2015, 08:17 PM
I usually go for any sort of G1 repaint (no matter how obscure) but these two make absolutely no sense at all... :confused:

Lord_Zed
18th March 2015, 10:05 PM
I may be alone in this but I actually like the look of Astrotrain, not sure why but it just jumps out at me

Blitzwing reminds me of a market KO though

Opposite way around for me, Blitzwing uses a mix of colours that work together and that we rarely ever see on a Transformer toy, I like it.

The blue on Astrotrain bugs me, a more purple colour would have worked better I think.

crankcase76
18th March 2015, 10:05 PM
Well they do look a little weird! But hey i will probably still buy them.:p

Megatran
19th March 2015, 08:54 PM
Is this on preorder anywhere?

The more I look at the pics the more I'm sold.

griffin
27th March 2015, 01:41 AM
These just get uglier... with the train and tank modes now shown on the Hasbro site (http://www.hasbro.com/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=E14ABDA7-5056-9047-F5AA-D64E90568E5A:en_US).

Golden Phoenix
27th March 2015, 02:23 AM
The tank looks alright. The train on the other hand......

Akky82
27th March 2015, 01:12 PM
These just get uglier... with the train and tank modes now shown on the Hasbro site (http://www.hasbro.com/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=E14ABDA7-5056-9047-F5AA-D64E90568E5A:en_US).

Yep, seems almost like colour schemes you see on ko's and cheap imitation bots in dollar stores, not interested in the slightest.

Zommael
27th March 2015, 02:32 PM
You're all nuts, they look great.

Robzy
27th March 2015, 03:21 PM
Can't get my head around the unusual colour choices. Each to their own.

Sinnertwin
27th March 2015, 04:04 PM
These just get uglier... with the train and tank modes now shown on the Hasbro site (http://www.hasbro.com/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=E14ABDA7-5056-9047-F5AA-D64E90568E5A:en_US).

i'll be honest, this one of those "the colour combinations are so crap i want one" sets for me

UltraMarginal
27th March 2015, 04:26 PM
I think they're 'homaging' factory test shots... :D

Zommael
27th March 2015, 04:40 PM
I just like the fact that they aren't in slavish G1 toy or cartoon colours. But I wish they were the Generations molds instead.

griffin
27th March 2015, 05:57 PM
The Blitzwing I can live with, as the two colours are close to Thrust to be familiar enough to not clash. But for Astrotrain.... there is no backstory or Hasbro employee that could possibly justify that shuttle mode, or the colours in general.

Even the Hasbro website I linked above didn't give an explanation beyond the basics, so I doubt that the back of the box will say anything other than Gen1 character traits.
A question for BotCon I think.

Other
28th March 2015, 02:16 PM
It's Flywheels and Machtackle

griffin
3rd April 2015, 01:06 AM
For some reason in America, the two Triplechangers are cheaper than the three small Insecticons.
The Insecticons were US$80, while the Triplechanger pack is US$66. (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/price-revealed-for-platinum-g1-reissue-astrotrain-and-blitzwing/32577/)

I wonder why the Insecticons were so expensive, as the Triplechanger pack is an acceptable price for two vintage Deluxe sized toys. (while the Insecticons were like three Commander/Legends class, which are not worth that price)

griffin
10th April 2015, 02:17 AM
This Triplechangers set must be coming out before the Coneheads (which was on the back of the Insecticon box so I thought it would be next), as the Triplechanger pack appears to have been found in Asia... and we get some in-hand photos of the two toys out of packaging (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1038895-platinum-edition-decepticon-triple-changers-hand.html).

Megatran
10th April 2015, 05:39 PM
^ Robotkingdom have them both available for 1st May & have been pre-ordered. They better not be pulling my leg.

Megatran
5th May 2015, 07:49 PM
You're all nuts, they look great.
Yes they do, especially in hand. :D

liegeprime
5th May 2015, 08:24 PM
A question for BotCon I think.

goes like.... uhhhmm about that platinum 3plchanger set color scheme, were any of you colorblind? awake? drunk? high? or just bored and want some meaning to your lives at the time that got approved? :p:p

CBratron
6th May 2015, 05:59 PM
It's Flywheels and Machtackle

Definitely is. And if this photo doesn't convince people, I don't know what will.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/11206003_10153293887420070_2183883287395228317_n.j pg?oh=74b2c3b1295c21338c7ba6bc0d7bb7f3&oe=55C5AC1F&__gda__=1440177417_671c89370246b00078191923040bd16 3

UltraMarginal
7th May 2015, 11:54 AM
Well, that pretty much confirms it, but, I still don't get it. it's so left field.

Tetsuwan Convoy
7th May 2015, 12:07 PM
Well, that pretty much confirms it, but, I still don't get it. it's so left field.

Agreed and agreed.

Odd combination of characters as well, basing them on flywheels and machtackle, who probably never hung out together...

GoktimusPrime
8th May 2015, 12:25 PM
Blitzwing looks more like Windsweeper (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Windsweeper) to me. :confused: And I agree with UltraMarginal's sentiments. I just don't see the appeal here. It'd be like say having...
* G1 Hound repainted as Mudslinger or Greasepit
* G2 Laser Optimus Prime repainted as Powertrain and/or Ironworks
* G1 Jazz repainted as Nightbeat or Minerva
* G1 Inferno repainted as Hot Spot, Red Hot, Hosehead/Cab, Discharge or Fire Chief
* G1 Trailbreaker repainted as Highjump
...etc.
Sure, I'd get the reference, but it'd just be too far out there to ever appeal to me.

griffin
8th May 2015, 12:50 PM
It's not the reference that I have a problem with as these could well have been botcon proposals that Hasbro decided to do for themselves. After all, they would fit in as botcon toys... but not having an explanation to explain these by Hasbro is my issue.
If they came out and said that they were those homages or named them on the box I'd be jumping all over these... but calling them Blitzwing and Astrotrain and no real bio to explain the colours just looks cheap and makes me less likely to buy them.

Demonac
8th May 2015, 12:51 PM
For a while, I couldn't put my finger on why the Astrotrain is so ugly.
It isn't the colours so much, as the fact that the way they are used highlights the transformation seams instead of trying to hide them, as a good colour scheme should do.

reillyd
8th May 2015, 02:58 PM
Astrotrain is clearly the child only a mother can love, but I'm rather pleased with the look of Blitzwing. Mine just arrived yesterday, and think he looks good in any of his triple-changer modes. I was very disappointed to see that the missiles are non-firing though (or at least are on mine - maybe the spring was left out as a factory error?). Its so tight that I could barely load the missiles, and they won't come out unless I apply serious force. So it then seems strange they'd give you three of them, since you're never going to be able to remove the two that are loaded.

GoktimusPrime
8th May 2015, 10:57 PM
Perhaps it was done to conform with US child safety laws. The spare missile thing may be just something from the original mould. Just my guess. :o

ampoldj
10th May 2015, 01:33 PM
They should have at least put in the packaging "weapons do not shoot" just not to create confusion