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TheDirtyDigger
4th September 2008, 07:49 PM
1) Is there anywhere in Australia we can get this (or something similar) done?
2) Do any of our esteemed members own any AFA graded Tfs?
jaydisc
4th September 2008, 08:00 PM
Whatchoo got cookin'?
TheDirtyDigger
4th September 2008, 08:26 PM
Just really curious at the moment.
I do have one or two of my own figs I wouldn't mind seeing get the treatment though.
Zippo
5th September 2008, 06:32 PM
I have several AFA graded toys, with a couple more incoming..
reillyd
5th September 2008, 06:50 PM
1) Is there anywhere in Australia we can get this (or something similar) done?
Yes, you can submit them to AFA if you're an Australian. Its slightly more expensive for the shipping, but well worth it for vintage G1 toys.
2) Do any of our esteemed members own any AFA graded Tfs?
My pride and joy is the Decepticon Pretender Leader Bludgeon MOSC - STILL WITH UNPUNCHED CARD.
Vector Sigma 13
5th September 2008, 07:20 PM
Perhaps someone could explain this a bit more, some of us newbs are unfamiliar with this grading and its purpose. Or if there is another post on this you could direct us too it?
llamatron
5th September 2008, 07:45 PM
In most cases it's an excellent way to artificially inflate the value of a toy and waste some money on an overpriced plastic case. They're not exactly reliable either, as there are reports of KO's being AFA'd as originals - although I believe that hasn't happened in a long time.
roller
6th September 2008, 06:11 PM
Once it is AFA graded, does that mean the toy is in a plastic case? CAn it be removed from the case once in there?
Pulse
6th September 2008, 07:01 PM
Once it is AFA graded, does that mean the toy is in a plastic case? CAn it be removed from the case once in there?
It probably could but that kinda defeats the purpose of it... (You might handle it & that could knock it down from a 9.5 to a 9 :D)
griffin
6th September 2008, 07:53 PM
Perhaps someone could explain this a bit more, some of us newbs are unfamiliar with this grading and its purpose. Or if there is another post on this you could direct us too it?
AFA grading is a concept a company in America created for toys to try to give a more universal rating of collectables.
AFA actually stands for 'Action Figure Authority', which is the name of the company, and they rate toys from 5-100 (in multiples of 5) on three elements - Box, Window/Blister, Figure - arriving at an overall (not average) score out of 100.
People wanting to have a toy AFA graded, post it to AFA, for them to assess it, generate a score, and then seal it in a UV-resistent acrylic box. They then post it back to you, charging you for the grading and shipping.
A label is stuck to the box with the scores, barcode and its AFA number (which they add to their registry for others to verify).
More info can be found here at their website:
http://www.toygrader.com/
At first it was a good way for collectors to have their 'rare' figures rated to a universal system, and sealed in a (protective) case (and still is a good way). But as it became a more accepted, almost official, concept for proving/guaranteeing the quality of older/vintage toys, toy dealers started using it only to improve the resale value of their stock (which wasn't what AFA grading system was started for). Figures on ebay that are AFA graded are usually listed at 5-10 times the price of the same conditioned figure that isn't AFA graded. (not that they sell very often though - but do a search on ebay for 'AFA' and see what completed listings go for).
Zippo
6th September 2008, 09:20 PM
Once it is AFA graded, does that mean the toy is in a plastic case? CAn it be removed from the case once in there?
You can now get a box with a removable bottom..
But yeah, does defeat the point.
Rampage
6th September 2008, 10:07 PM
Once it is AFA graded, does that mean the toy is in a plastic case? CAn it be removed from the case once in there?
the toy is sealed to a bubble so it's kinda pointless anyway:p
CSG is another alternative to AFA
http://www.collectorsourcegrading.com/view_gallery_images.php?gallery_id=19
as you can see some lucky bastard has a graded Takara Fort Max:eek:
Pulse
6th September 2008, 11:42 PM
But I've heard that getting something graded can reach into hundreds & hundreds of dollars... (whereby the cost of getting it graded in the first place & its actual resale value aren't that different to one another)
& there have been occasions where the owner has felt that their boxed figure deserved a much higher grading than it actually received (therefore having a significant impact on its future value)
griffin
7th September 2008, 12:58 AM
You can now get a box with a removable bottom..
But yeah, does defeat the point.
I would have thought that they would be sealed to prevent switching product and selling it online (or even in person). Hopefully there is some indicator on the removable-bottom cases, when the bottom has been removed. Otherwise even when it is the real thing in the case, handling it and putting it back is likely to cause damage that would affect the rating (and as you say, defeats the point, because the rating is no longer guaranteed).
1orion2many
7th September 2008, 01:18 AM
Sorry but I just see it as another way for people to increase the price of collectables in general not just TF's. It may have started off with all the best intentions but as it has been previously said the AFA graded items are outrageously priced, it's still the same item but now it's a box inside a box with a ratings sticker on the outside. Definitely not something that interests me.
Soundwarp
7th September 2008, 08:37 AM
Is there a list somewhere that we can grade our own ones i mean the C9 grading etc?
Pulse
7th September 2008, 12:13 PM
Why in the hell do people get brand new figures graded? Seriously, What is the point? (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-JETSTORM-AFA-85-NM-ULTRA-SERIES-TRU-EXCL_W0QQitemZ280262458112QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15534 3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) *shakes head*
Rampage
7th September 2008, 05:12 PM
Why in the hell do people get brand new figures graded? Seriously, What is the point? (http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-JETSTORM-AFA-85-NM-ULTRA-SERIES-TRU-EXCL_W0QQitemZ280262458112QQihZ018QQcategoryZ15534 3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) *shakes head*
and i thought peole who AFA'd Alternators & Hasbro reissues were knobs
whats next AFA'd Cyber Slammers & 6" Titaniums:p
Pulse
7th September 2008, 06:32 PM
People like this guy (http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/johnnyped_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ) must work at the Action Figure Authority & grade figures themselves (therefore costing them nothing)
Why else would you bother grading those movie/allspark figures? (It's not like they'd be incredibly valuable in future years...) :confused:
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