Masterpiece Optimus Primal

[kurdt_the_goat]

Verno will be pleased in 2016! Though it looks so smooth, i can't imagine how it might transform?

http://i.imgur.com/yyafm4Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OXgmqwr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XI9CL4G.jpg

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Hrm. An unarticulated beast mode?
If the robot looks good. I'd go for it!

[doublespy]

That doesn't look like a transforming figure to me though?

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Maybe just a placeholder? Would 2016 be like a 20th anniversary of BW?

[Smint]

Would be hilarious if it was just a non transforming gorilla.

[Verno]

Verno can't come to the phone right now...

[Firestorm]

Masterpiece? Optimus Primal?
*pinches self* ow.. Wait. This isn't a dream? This isn't a dream!! :D
WOOHOOOOHOOOHOOO!!!!!!
I was worried we'd have to wait years for one of these after Star Saber won the fan vote.
That gorilla mode is.... Surprisingly smooth?
I NEED more pics of this NOW.
Actually I just need this now. It will be mine!
Finally a masterpiece I can get excited about :D

[loophole]

Now they better do a MP Megatron to go with him

[Verno]

I guess my first questions have to be: How much do masterpiece figures cost? And where best to import them from?

[Handsprime]

If the Gorilla lacks any articulation or something like that, this would be a pass for me because I don't want a Transformer that transforms into a statue.

[kurdt_the_goat]

A better pic from https://twitter.com/GENgoraw

http://i.imgur.com/X400OJN.jpg

Still got no idea what's going on with it... the only way i can see that thing transforming is if it's a pretender shell :D

[autobreadticon]

definitely transforms, look at the lines on the elbows and face , super excited for this, esp the scale and cartoon accurate:)

[Verno]

Look at the hands, though. They look solid. I'd be expecting hand articulation in an MP toy. So because Primal has the same hands in both modes, I'd say this is just a test-shot or a resin statue. It doesn't transform.

[Bidoofdude]

Look at the hands, though. They look solid. I'd be expecting hand articulation in an MP toy. So because Primal has the same hands in both modes, I'd say this is just a test-shot or a resin statue. It doesn't transform.

Didn't it say somewhere he's yet to be cut up to create the bot mode?

[GoktimusPrime]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_thatsjustprime_zpsnytswae4.jpg


Didn't it say somewhere he's yet to be cut up to create the bot mode?
Correct (http://www.allspark.com/2015/06/masterpiece-beast-convoy/) :) This is just a placeholder display and by far from being the final product. But so far so good! :D

[DELTAprime]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_thatsjustprime_zpsnytswae4.jpg


Agreed!

[UltimateGalvatron]

TBH I'm looking forward to this more then Ironhide, even though I'm not a big Beast Wars fan! :eek::rolleyes:

[BigTransformerTrev]

If I wanted a big rubber monkey I'd buy a King Kong figure :rolleyes:

They really need to be concentrating on finishing up the line-up of Masterpiece G1 figures before they even think of doing Beast Wars.

After they have finished up with an MP of every character to appear from 1984 to 1990 they can do BW - until then my Robot Heroes Optimus Primal is more than enough for me. That said, an MP Optimal Optimus may actually hold some kind of appeal

[kurdt_the_goat]

I'll buy pretty much any MP they put out, but i also think the line could really benefit from a much more focused (and faster) roadmap.

They created a lot of excitement with Combiner Wars (releasing a whole bunch of figures in a set in quick succession). That's what i think they should be aiming for - and they're so close to finishing '84 you'd think they'd just pump them out first.

[Trent]

If I wanted a big rubber monkey I'd buy a King Kong figure :rolleyes:

They really need to be concentrating on finishing up the line-up of Masterpiece G1 figures before they even think of doing Beast Wars.

After they have finished up with an MP of every character to appear from 1984 to 1990 they can do BW - until then my Robot Heroes Optimus Primal is more than enough for me. That said, an MP Optimal Optimus may actually hold some kind of appeal

Glad to see you have everyone's (especially BW fans) interests at heart there Trev.

[Shirokaze]

More excited about this than Ironhide.

Particularly happy how they've alluded to more than one Beast Wars Masterpiece. :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Glad to see you have everyone's (especially BW fans) interests at heart there Trev.

What? I own a version of the character and said Optimal Optimus might be worth a shot so it's not like I'm a Beast Wars hater. It's like Kurdt said - they should concentrate in finishing one line first - in this case the 400 or so G1 figures left to go ;)

And sorry - but this toy really does look like a big rubber monkey you'd buy in a bargain bin for a toddler

[twincobra]

I wish the spent the time and resources on a G1 decepticon instead of that, it looks like a king Kong Sofubi! :rolleyes:

[Trent]

What? I own a version of the character and said Optimal Optimus might be worth a shot so it's not like I'm a Beast Wars hater. It's like Kurdt said - they should concentrate in finishing one line first - in this case the 400 or so G1 figures left to go ;)

And sorry - but this toy really does look like a big rubber monkey you'd buy in a bargain bin for a toddler

Nah. I'm thinking Masterpiece should expand into other eras. For instance, who, in their right mind, doesn't want a MP Super-Pants Prime? Imo that is what should have won the fan vote ;) Maybe they should throw in an Animorph or 2...

And of course it looks like it's made of rubber. It looks exactly like the animation model ;) Hopefully we get BW Megs to go with it. Complete with a little rubber ducky accessory :cool:

[ampoldj]

Watched Beast Wars but not really been a fan of the series...but at least it is Optimus Primal they are doing but if next year they keep on getting these i am not sure how i feel when i pull a rat out of an MP box :D

[millhouse]

If it looks good as a robot, I might be in. If it's not, then I'm out. The original animation model is just too weird and plain for me to care, if the image is anything to go by.

[Hursticon]

What? I own a version of the character and said Optimal Optimus might be worth a shot so it's not like I'm a Beast Wars hater. It's like Kurdt said - they should concentrate in finishing one line first - in this case the 400 or so G1 figures left to go ;)

And sorry - but this toy really does look like a big rubber monkey you'd buy in a bargain bin for a toddler

Sorry Trev, G1 Masterpieces peaked at Soundwave, it's about time they moved onto a Transformers iteration with... a little more bite (https://youtu.be/A9t7G_lHeiY). ;):p


I have to say, that TakaraTomy is aiming for 2016 to be the "Year of Masterpiece Beast Wars", in honour of Beast Wars' 20th Anniversary, is extremely exciting and that they're starting the ball rolling with a glimpse at this VERY EARLY VINYL PROTOTYPE is awesome! :D

Like many I've seen express, I'm blown away by the clear aim to be accurate to the original Mainframe Entertainment 3d Models - The teams that worked on that show must be elated on such a different level to we fans, not to mention Garry Chalk finally getting a Masterpiece figure! :cool:

I CANNOT wait to preorder MP Gorilla/Beast Convoy, aka Optimus Primal, and can only imagine that Verno, Firestorm, Gutsman & others are just as psyched as myself to see an MP (Beast) Megatron get shown at some point! :D:D:D

[drifand]

Skipping this for me even at 4,000jpy

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Sorry Trev, G1 Masterpieces peaked at Soundwave, it's about time they moved onto a Transformers iteration with... a little more bite (https://youtu.be/A9t7G_lHeiY). ;):pHear, hear!

Or should I say, Yesss...

(Also, it's been a long time since I watched it, but damn...Beast Wars was great.)

[CBratron]

Whatever...

[Verno]

Hey Gok, if you've got nothing on today...

... a transcript of this video (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/tokyo-toy-show-2015-video-coverage-mp-ironhide-gorilla-convoy-uw-devastator/33268/) from the Tokyo Toy Fair would be greatly appreciated by all I would think :p

[BigTransformerTrev]

Sorry Trev, G1 Masterpieces peaked at Soundwave, it's about time they moved onto a Transformers iteration with... a little more bite (https://youtu.be/A9t7G_lHeiY). ;):p



Dude - you think society in general peaked with Masterpiece Soundwave! And thats just narro.... it's just not tru..... I mean you are wro......

... damn I had something for this. But MP Soundwave was da bomb! :D



Nah. I'm thinking Masterpiece should expand into other eras. For instance, who, in their right mind, doesn't want a MP Super-Pants Prime? Imo that is what should have won the fan vote ;) Maybe they should throw in an Animorph or 2...

And of course it looks like it's made of rubber. It looks exactly like the animation model ;) Hopefully we get BW Megs to go with it. Complete with a little rubber ducky accessory :cool:

How could you not want an MP called 'Super-Pants'!?!? And if they do a seperate MP of Megs rubber ducky I'll buy it - that plastic water fowl carried the show on his squeaky little shoulders :D

[drifand]

I don't see why money should be just spent because is a masterpiece.

Lacks fur, not hairy enough.

[drifand]

Interesting.
Interesting, Optimus the word is spot on smooth.................
Its a crime.

nah its not a crime.

Its personal preference.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'll be passing on this what with having a Primal toy I'm happy with already, but...if they do a TM or TM2 (oh please oh please oh please do a TM2) Megatron then I'm not going to be able to resist it.

[Hursticon]

Hey Gok, if you've got nothing on today...

... a transcript of this video (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/tokyo-toy-show-2015-video-coverage-mp-ironhide-gorilla-convoy-uw-devastator/33268/) from the Tokyo Toy Fair would be greatly appreciated by all I would think :p

An English transcript WOULD be welcomed and appreciated... :p:D


Dude - you think society in general peaked with Masterpiece Soundwave! And thats just narro.... it's just not tru..... I mean you are wro......

... damn I had something for this. But MP Soundwave was da bomb! :D

How could you not want an MP called 'Super-Pants'!?!? And if they do a seperate MP of Megs rubber ducky I'll buy it - that plastic water fowl carried the show on his squeaky little shoulders :D

Hehe, you were that cheeky kid with a stick in your younger days, weren't you Trev? :D


I'll be passing on this what with having a Primal toy I'm happy with already, but...if they do a TM or TM2 (oh please oh please oh please do a TM2) Megatron then I'm not going to be able to resist it.

:eek: I'd be over the moon with a regular BW Megatron, but the possibility of either a TM or TM2 Megatron!?!...






..."Oh, YYEEESSS!!!!" :D

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

So no information on this Optimus Primal other than it being revealed on a screen. Speculation begins as to whether or not it will be a statue or a MP style Beastwars figure. Looking at picture I fail to see any thing about this that is transformable and if it could be, I say.......
Interesting to see a show accurate statue with talk of it being MP Transformer though I think more along the lines of ExGokin vinyl toy. I would love to be wrong.:cool:

It was standing on the opposite side of the stage in one of the pictures I think. Looked about the same height as Ironhide.

Personally I prefer my Transformer beasts made of metal. SO, if this was Transmetal Primal, then hells yeah.

As it is, I 'll wait to see what the robot mode looks like.

It looks quite obvious that the statue thing is just a teaser of what's to come. Much can change in a year! Woo Woo! Quite nice to see a shift to some BW.

[kurdt_the_goat]

The original toy is so good, they'll have their work cut out for them topping it!

[MayzaPrime]

I have been offline for a while... I check the Transformers sites, BOOM!!!! MP Optimus Primal.

OMG!!! This is so awesome, and very easy to complete all of the Beast Wars 1st season characters... :p

[Trent]

So no information on this Optimus Primal other than it being revealed on a screen. Speculation begins as to whether or not it will be a statue or a MP style Beastwars figure. Looking at picture I fail to see any thing about this that is transformable and if it could be, I say.......
Interesting to see a show accurate statue with talk of it being MP Transformer though I think more along the lines of ExGokin vinyl toy. I would love to be wrong.:cool:

I read it's going to be an MP released next year. What they showed us was what beast mode they will be going for. It's just a non-transforming render at this stage.

[Paulbot]

This is going to be the death of the Masterpiece line. Masterpiece toys should be licensed vehicles not animals. Or in other words.... Truck not monkey


;) :p

[MayzaPrime]

This is going to be the death of the Masterpiece line. Masterpiece toys should be licensed vehicles not animals. Or in other words.... Truck not monkey


;) :p

No way... This is a start of a beautiful Beast Wars MP sub line, which will have no impact on your Truck line :p

I am happy to have both, love my truck and monkey :p

[spiderken17]

I don't mind MP's coming out that I do not want as it gives my wallet a break. I am happy for the Beast Wars fans who get an MP Primal. I imagine an MP Rhinox would sell well also.

[ampoldj]

I read it's going to be an MP released next year. What they showed us was what beast mode they will be going for. It's just a non-transforming render at this stage.

Yes the beast mode is just a reference the designer is using as explained in the video of the presentation.

[GoktimusPrime]

The original toy is so good, they'll have their work cut out for them topping it!
Don't expect as big a leap in engineering for this toy as we see in G1 MPs. As you've rightly pointed out,t he engineering/design of the original Optimus Primal toy is so good, that there isn't really as big a margin for improvement as there are with G1 MPs. No doubt that this toy will be a big improvement over the original, but it just won't be as much of a leap forward. The original already features a well articulated robot mode. They could add wrist and maybe additional beast mode articulation, but otherwise there's not a whole lot they can do to make it that much more articulated than the original figure.

Some features I'm anticipating include:
* Face change feature between standard mouthed face and toy-accurate battle mask
* Prime jets (similar to what RM Beast Convoy has, but improved)
* Swords w/ chrome blades and blue hilts
* Chest will open up to reveal Energon Matrix chamber (which would also mean a limited exclusive Burning Convoy repaint of this toy down the track ;)).
* Battle mace (which the original toy has but never used in the show)

It'll be interesting to see how they approach the missile launchers. The original toy managed to stow them away with a covered up back on the beast mode, but leaving floppy beast kibble in robot mode. The Robot Masters toy did away with the kibble (looking more show-accurate in robot mode), but leaves two holes on the beast mode back. I suspect that the kibble will fold away first, allowing space for the launchers to swing out. The original toy couldn't do this because it was a spring activated gimmick, which I think they'll omit on the MP toy for the sake of better looks on both robot and beast modes.

[Lord_Zed]

There are many aesthetic changes they could make to Primal, all this gimmicks on the original toy give the gorilla mode a rather angular appearance for a beast. I imagine they will give the beast mode rounded arms. Also If they can figure out how to give the beast mode an articulated head (and on an MP budget why not?), that would be a big plus. The wrist guns could be made show accurate so the arm does not flip backwards. I imagine/hope they ditch the lame mace in favour of wrist guns in both arms like in the show.

[GoktimusPrime]

They could still include the mace, but simply do away with the stowage gimmick. After all, other MPs come w/ accessories that don't necessarily stow away. :) RM Beast Convoy already has forearm guns that pop up without the hands flipping back (http://blog-imgs-38-origin.fc2.com/j/u/u/juusankaidan/Imgp2669.jpg), albeit with forearm panels flipped up. But of course, that's a 1480JPY (≈AU$15) toy. I would imagine that on an MP budget, they should be able to pull off that gimmick with far more minimalised kibble. :) Might also be neat to have an interchangeable mouth between neutral (http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_89.jpg) and angry (http://www.jaylaw-geo.co.uk/jay-bird/Optimus_Primal_headshot.jpg). They could possibly even do the same for the beast mode face (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/edVNi0vHWJ4/hqdefault.jpg) too.

[Verno]

Hey Gok, if you've got nothing on today...

... a transcript of this video (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/tokyo-toy-show-2015-video-coverage-mp-ironhide-gorilla-convoy-uw-devastator/33268/) from the Tokyo Toy Fair would be greatly appreciated by all I would think :p

How's it coming, Gok? :p

[UltraMarginal]

I guess you could say I'm a beast wars agnostic, I liked the show but can't bring myself to give two hoots about the toys. I guess I'm a vehicle to robot kind of guy.
I hope this turns out as good as people are expecting as a first in the line that's not a vehicle.

[GoktimusPrime]

How's it coming, Gok? :p
I'm insanely busy this week, man, and I've got a backlog of translation stuff to do. You'll have to ask someone else to translate that.

[Verno]

I'm insanely busy this week, man, and I've got a backlog of translation stuff to do. You'll have to ask someone else to translate that.
Haha, it's all good mate.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I hope this turns out as good as people are expecting as a first in the line that's not a vehicle.
I don't really class Star Saber(re) as a vehicle. ;):rolleyes::p

I'm insanely busy this week, man, and I've got a backlog of translation stuff to do. You'll have to ask someone else to translate that.

Aaah, it's so cute he thinks you're serious Verno :):D

That's why we luvs ya Gok

[Verno]

I was serious. I'm keen to know what the presenters are saying. No doubt another Japanese-speaking fan will pop up :)

[VGMStudios]

I always wished that one day they would make MP Primal. My dream is coming true.
Very excited to know more about this.
If they would start making MP BW figures I would love to see Tigherhawk, Big Convoy, Lio Convoy, Rhinox and any iteration of Megatron for starters.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Hehe, you were that cheeky kid with a stick in your younger days, weren't you Trev? :D



Me?! (feigns innocence) Of course not :p



Personally I prefer my Transformer beasts made of metal.

Same :)


I guess you could say I'm a beast wars agnostic, I liked the show but can't bring myself to give two hoots about the toys. I guess I'm a vehicle to robot kind of guy.
I hope this turns out as good as people are expecting as a first in the line that's not a vehicle.

Exactly my thinking! I have the box sets of the DVD's which are great, and a Waspinator and a Depthcharge from the original toyline. However I was never really interested in the toys - organic alt-modes just don't do it for me