Badcube OTS-08 SunSurge (Sunstreaker)

[Tober]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/sunsurge_zpsmhachbul.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/sunsurge_zpsmhachbul.jpg.html)

[z3r03d]

nice! so when is this out?


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/sunsurge_zpsmhachbul.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/sunsurge_zpsmhachbul.jpg.html)

[Lord_Zed]

Hanging to see a prototype, and if they can pull of a proper MP car robot rather than MP minibot feel. Wardog was solid, tricky yes but masterfully done, so Badcube have really impressed me of late.

I'm even considering their Insecticons.

[spiderken17]

The Badcube stuff does look good, I am looking forward to seeing it but I would think Sunstreaker would be on TT/s radar as they already have a licence to make Lambos so they could (possibly) make another MP without having to chase a licensing deal from a car manufacturer.

[Tober]

nice! so when is this out?

No dates or price yet. Wadog took 5 months, so maybe end of year.


The Badcube stuff does look good, I am looking forward to seeing it but I would think Sunstreaker would be on TT/s radar as they already have a licence to make Lambos so they could (possibly) make another MP without having to chase a licensing deal from a car manufacturer.

I'm thinking it's the body-kit they will have difficulty getting the license for. :(

[Tober]

Prototype images. Apparently the ankles and knees are loose.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11722154_782769488488517_7236451663847292735_o_zps kmvjkvmg.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11722154_782769488488517_7236451663847292735_o_zps kmvjkvmg.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11707924_782769501821849_9005220265559370212_o_zps kuckvgfr.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11707924_782769501821849_9005220265559370212_o_zps kuckvgfr.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11698845_782769508488515_277463984378339085_o_zpsj bsf3ztr.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11698845_782769508488515_277463984378339085_o_zpsj bsf3ztr.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11731571_782769465155186_3392018902872727657_o_zps 4euzzmnx.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11731571_782769465155186_3392018902872727657_o_zps 4euzzmnx.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11224393_782769491821850_8467721586845918278_o_zps lr89cxpv.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11224393_782769491821850_8467721586845918278_o_zps lr89cxpv.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11713787_782769498488516_1046173672191445098_o_zps v67impgx.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11713787_782769498488516_1046173672191445098_o_zps v67impgx.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11059973_782769481821851_2554171262631974386_o_zps hql4rhhd.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11059973_782769481821851_2554171262631974386_o_zps hql4rhhd.jpg.html)

[leej84]

this looks fantastic so far!

i wonder what ever happened to that other 3P not sunstreaker

[Tober]

I think there are some things Omnigonix's Spinout did better than Sunsurge, but I'm not totally convinced by either design.

Spinout went up for pre-order a few months ago along with an updated prototype. No test shots or anything since.

[Trent]

This one looks really good. I'd be all in if I didn't think that we'll have an official one within 18 months.

But I might get it anyway :)

[gamblor916]

That looks really good but they really need to fix that rear section.

[Akky82]

Vehicle looks amazing, and probably how i'd display it, but the legs (mainly feet) dont do it for me, and the fake chest seems a bit smallish/not quite right. I've already put my eggs in omni's basket, dunno why but i'm not a fan of badcubes releases, they're solid (lately i guess) but dunno, I dont really like their insecticons at all.

[Initial_G]

Wow Badcube seem really far in development. Nice prototype pics. Omnigonix's delay after delay and not much updates really hasn't done them any favours. I think most ppl will just switch to Badcube

[SharkyMcShark]

While proportionally it looks better than what we've seen of Spinout the fake chest is an instant deal breaker for me.

I'm sticking with Spinout.

[Initial_G]

Just out of curiosity, why does fake chest bother ppl ( hmm that sounds odd ).

Generally it means a good looking (accurate?) bot mode and alt mode. You still get the transform the figure, and it's not parts-forming as such.

Also, don't official Takara MPs have some fake parts too?

[SharkyMcShark]

Just out of curiosity, why does fake chest bother ppl ( hmm that sounds odd ).

Generally it means a good looking (accurate?) bot mode and alt mode. You still get the transform the figure, and it's not parts-forming as such.

Also, don't official Takara MPs have some fake parts too?

To me the transformation engineering is more important than a source accurate bot mode and vehicle mode, and using fake parts is to me a major engineering fail, especially for something as high end as a third party Masterpiece style release.

That said I think it all comes down to what you're after from your figures - I don't collect MP figures at all because having a G1 accurate collection isn't something that I'm fussed about.

I have MP-03 Starscream (and the Hasbro Skywarp repaint) and MP-11 Starscream because I'm a sucker for jet transformers.

I have MP-12 Sideswipe because I love supercar transformers. I'll get Omni's Spinout because I love supercar transformers, not because I'm after a cartoon accurate G1 Sunstreaker.

[AJ_Prime]

Hmmm the fake chest doesn't bother me too much, it's that gap just below where it looks like something tucks in that's a problem. Also those huge duck feet and the open-ended rear in alt mode.

The Omnigonix version does look a bit better in most of those regards, however that large chest makes it look like he's consumed too much energon.

There are good and bad parts to both. I'll hold off final judgment until production mold is finished.

[leej84]

^my thoughts exactly

[Lord_Zed]

Both versions seem to have pros and cons. I have to say I'm leaning toward this version overall, but I need to see the finished colour version to be sure.

Fake chest doesn't bother me, as Wardog essentially fakes his gun turret chest but the ingenuity and implementation is awesome, so it wont feel like a cop out for me as long as the engineering is clever. So far Badcube's transformations have been complex but always rewarding, so that and the quality of their last release has me favoring this one, at least for now.

[Acesan]

Don't like the fake chest myself - I like spin out better (if it ever releases!)

[zaneiken]

I don't understand the dislike for the fake chest. Both MP-1 and MP-10 had fake waist elements.

[SharkyMcShark]

I don't understand the dislike for the fake chest. Both MP-1 and MP-10 had fake waist elements.

Both of which actively annoyed me enough that I didn't buy that figure either.

[Lord_Zed]

I can understand where your coming from, for me it's the opposite, but I totally understand why fake bits can be polarizing.

For me I have no problem with fake elements given I spent my childhood trying to draw the cartoon Transformers transforming and realised it wasn't possible without cheating and squash and stretch, so I kind of actually like cheating sometimes. Ever since Powermaster Prime's cheating chest. I dunno for me it felt like the closest they came to replicating the morphing in the animation.

[Tober]

The fake chest doesn't bother me, The proportions do.

[Tober]

Test shot/prototype

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11947966_711254338975556_7293394352589201944_o_zps owda1zho.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11947966_711254338975556_7293394352589201944_o_zps owda1zho.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/12002609_711251612309162_2849167834785869461_o_zps nm4wwhgk.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/12002609_711251612309162_2849167834785869461_o_zps nm4wwhgk.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/12010688_711262695641387_5551725037384207899_o_zps yps9mfhy.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/12010688_711262695641387_5551725037384207899_o_zps yps9mfhy.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/11922983_711265568974433_7636429848912039468_o_zps jnppjty8.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/11922983_711265568974433_7636429848912039468_o_zps jnppjty8.jpg.html)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/12000892_711267498974240_7459174995549494107_o_zps svooxkfb.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/12000892_711267498974240_7459174995549494107_o_zps svooxkfb.jpg.html)

[Starscream77]

Quite tempting

[gamblor916]

Tempting indeed.

[Raider]

It's pieces like this that make me wish HasTak would give us a road map for knowing which Masterpiece bots they intend to make. I would buy this piece if I knew there was not going to be an MP Sunstreaker but I just have a feeling there will be one so gonna pass.

[Lord_Zed]

If HasTak do intent to make him, he'll be pushed back and back and back.....

[Gofigure]

If HasTak do intent to make him, he'll be pushed back and back and back.....

That's the real trick isn't it? ;)

Just trying to predict takara's MP release schedule and seeing if it's worth waiting out or just taking the plunge into some decent third party offering

To buy an unofficial sun streaker, hound, or jazz now? Or wait out a few years for official product

Hmmmmmm.......collector cognitive dissonance much?

[WeallscreamforStarscream]

The way im doing it is, i'll buy the 3rd party if it's great enough and then if Hasbro or TakTom make it i'll have one in alt form.

For example Grimlock will stay in dino mode till the set is complete by Fanstoys i'll have their Grimlock in dino mode to match the rest and official Grimlock in bot mode.

make sense?

[Gofigure]

The way im doing it is, i'll buy the 3rd party if it's great enough and then if Hasbro or TakTom make it i'll have one in alt form.

For example Grimlock will stay in dino mode till the set is complete by Fanstoys i'll have their Grimlock in dino mode to match the rest and official Grimlock in bot mode.

make sense?

Makes perfect sense actually.

Had the same thought a few weeks back. It's not a bad way to justify a 'double purchase' and also works from a display perspective :)

Still chasing an official mp megs for display in alt mode alongside Apollyon in robot mode

[Lord_Zed]

Originally I went by what do I guess HasTak will ever make as my 3rd party MP qualifier , but now there are heaps of them so it's trickier. Also my good or bad experiences with some companies is influencing my decisions.

For instance while I do think there is a 50/50 chance that Hasbro may one day release Sunstreaker, my enjoyment of Badcubes previously released toys has me keen on this toy, the same is true for me with Maketoys Hound, and MMC's Mirage, previous experience of what they can create is making me want to get those toys even though I think Hasbro may release them. In which case maybe I'd get both as I feel like they each would add something.

On the other end of the spectrum is things like X-Transbots Scourge, I don't think Hasbro will ever make MP scourge, yet my experience of X-Transbots has not been amazing, I'm actually more tempted by the other guys who may get official toys.....one day.

[Tober]

Painted prototype

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/53c88ffegw1ewn2x6egzbj20xc0m87ba_zpsmj9s9rkh.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/53c88ffegw1ewn2x6egzbj20xc0m87ba_zpsmj9s9rkh.jpg.h tml)

[Trent]

I know it's cartoon accurate but that is a lot of yellow on the bot mode. Needs something to break it up.

[Starscream77]

I know it's cartoon accurate but that is a lot of yellow on the bot mode. Needs something to break it up.

A nice Autobot symbol :p

[Arctorro]

c/o OptimusTimelord @ TFW
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/OptimusTimelord/TF%20Animations/output_se6WuZ.gif

[Lord_Zed]

Awesome!