SDCC Transformers GENERATIONS & EXCLUSIVES News and reveals

[Hursticon]

So...

Anyone for Hasbro Giftsets? - Generation 2 Giftsets!?! :eek::D
(Courtesy of TFW2005.com (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/sdcc-2015-hasbro-breakfast-combiner-wars-296137) :cool:)


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How about some Victorion!? :eek::cool:


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[griffin]

Beat me to it... but nice mirroring of images. :)

I think this is a new feature this year for Hasbro at SDCC - a Breakfast preview... in addition to the Dinner preview the night before. The SDCC is certainly becoming a huge promotional medium now, being padded out as much as possible.

As noted at TFW (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/sdcc-2015-hasbro-breakfast-combiner-wars-296137) (who kept spelling the fan-vote toy as Victorian... so I guess it is Australian after all :p ), these two combiners will be boxsets, and not likely to be exclusive to any retailer. (they are probably going to be like Quickslinger and Brakeneck, and be an online exclusive to whomever wants them)


The Victorian weapons are from the Cosmic Rust episode in Generation 1 and combine.

The molds being used for Victorian are: Hot Spot (new head sculpt)
Alpha Bravo x 2 (new molded arms)
Dead End (new head sculpt)
Breakdown (new head sculpt)
Groover (legends mold)


The G2 Superion set will include all five original team members plus Powerglide!

We can also expect more news about more possible G2 combiners this weekend.


The molds being used for Superion should be no surprise:
Silverbolt
Air Raid
Fireflight (Firefly)
Skydive
Slingshot (Quickslinger)
I think it is great that they are using the Quickslinger mould for the G2 Slingshot.

The colours on the Gen2 Superion look great for being very reminiscent of the original toys.
However the colours on Victorion were giving me a headache after looking at all the TFW photos. I think the final version will be a little duller, but the green/red colours clash way too much.

I guess it was a result of the fan-vote, but I don't like there being two Alpha Bravo moulds in the set. It ruins the variety, and is probably the worst of the Combiner Deluxes so far in terms of alt-mode appearance and engineering (in my mind).

Love the Supererion set... not so much for Victorion.
(and excited for the suggestion that there could be more Gen2 deco sets to come... as a Gen2 Defensor and Menasor would be a dream come true for all the fans who could never have the originals)

[griffin]

The two presentations are scheduled for..
Transformers Generations Panel – Thursday July 9 @ 11:00am (4am Friday Eastern Australia time)

Transformers: Robots in Disguise Panel – Thursday July 9 @ 3:00pm (8am Friday Eastern Australia time)

So by the time most of you get up in the morning, we should have a heap of new product reveals and Display Booth photos... hopefully.

[Sinnertwin]

they should just bite the bullet and make a combiner with alpha bravo as all of the limbs and weapon. Feet and hands too

[griffin]

Looks like TFW has completely crashed from the peak of people in America who were logging in to see what was on display at SDCC.
About an hour ago there were about 4000 people on there and it was already showing some database errors... so I might have to post up some Seibertron links as well as a backup.

(remember when BotCon used to cause internet meltdown like this, for all the news being revealed at that convention... before FunPub ruined its reputation)

[griffin]

Some Transformers Pez dispensers (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-galleries-sdcc-2015-transformers-robots-in-disguise-and-pez-dispensers/33446/) were given to people at the Breakfast event, which should be released soon, if not already... but probably only in America.

[griffin]

One announcement at SDCC (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/transformers-combiner-wars-series-coming-to-machinima-296266) is that there will be some sort of animation being done for Combiner Wars by a company called Machinima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima_Inc.)... but it is rather vague as to what format it will take, or how/where it will be broadcast. (and the details of what the company does was rather confusing, as they seem to do a wide variety of things)


“The Transformers are coming to Machinima.
Hasbro, the toy company-now-play brand, has partnered with the online gamer and video platform to produce a new animated series based on its Transformers: Combiner Wars line.
Combiner Wars is a storyline that has been playing out across Hasbro’s toys and IDW comic books for the past year and the upcoming Activision video game Transformers: Devastation.
Insiders say it’s the first time these many synergistic elements have been combined by Hasbro to tell an overall story.
Additionally, Habsro is giving something a segment of its large Transformers audience has been demanding for years, namely an animated series aimed at an older audience.
“Our audiences are huge fans of the toy, comics, movies and video games, and for us to continue the legend with the Combiner War is a unique story-telling opportunity,” said CCA Daniel Tibbets.
Said Hasbro’s senior vp of the Transformers franchise, Tom Warner: “(Machinima is) the perfect partner to help launch a totally new kind of Transformers animation—one that, for the first time ever, is specifically designed for the teen and adult fans who’ve grown up loving the Transformers brand.”
Without going to deep into the complexities of the Transformers universe, Combiner Wars saw groups of Transformers be able to combine into one giant robot, known as a Combiner. Superion and Menasor were among the new robots that held the fate of the Transformers’ homeworld Cybertron in their hands.”

[griffin]

We also get a closer look at the new feet for Victorion (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/more-combiner-news-from-sdcc-296259), and it sounds like they will be used on other combiners as well.

[griffin]

The Hasbro Generations presentation has now occurred, and photos from the presentation can be seen here (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/tfw2005-sdcc-2015-hasbro-generations-panel-live-296264), along with a new trailer for the Devastation game, featuring Grimlock, Shockwave, Blitzwing and Insecticons.

Some of the more interesting items that weren't revealed at BotCon a couple weeks ago...

A Gen2 Menasor confirmed, to go with Superion that was revealed a couple hours beforehand.

The names of Victorion's team members - Dustup (Deadend car), Jumpstream (Breakdown car), Stormclash (mostly red helicopter), Skyburst (mostly green helicopter), Pyra Magna (firetruck), Rust Dust (motorcycle).
Victorion will be released "sometime next year".

2016 wave 1 Voyager (to be released with Onslaught) is Scattorshot, who forms Betatron (not Computrton) with existing Deluxes (the slide shows the Autobot cars from 2015 wave 4). It is another heavy remould of the Silverbolt toy.
There was a blacked out square on Voyager Onslaught's slide at BotCon, so now we know who it was being released with him for wave 1 next year.

Masterpiece Starscream being re-released in October in America... and no mention of Sideswipe, so maybe it has been cancelled. (it was noted at BotCon 2014 that it would be out this year with Bluestreak)

Platinum Edition Trypticon and Blaster/Perceptor will be Target exclusives in America in August.

(that looks to be it)

The RID presentation is in another three hours.

[griffin]

From the same link as above...


A Q&A session followed:
No plans for Dinobots Combiner
No plans for Predaking, or beast combiners in general.
Cannot conform MP-28 is Hound
The reason for the differences between Hasbro and Takara’s Devastators was basically cost.
The reason for not doing Prowlastator was because Hasbro wanted to give fans a G1 version of Devastator.
No plans to make toys of the Decepticon Justice Division.

[griffin]

Seibertron has posted up photos of the Gen2 redeco Combiners (http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=428).

A new Hasbro site is being launched (http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=428&size=2&image=68) for collectors to see new releases, participate in polls and hear from the Designers.

The Devastation game has a release date of October 6th (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2015-hasbro-transformers-panel-summary/33448/).

Gen2 Menasor includes Blackjack, while Superion includes Powerglide... both in new colours.


I guess that means FunPub won't be able to release another G2 Breakdown toy.

[griffin]

The new game trailer is now on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJJYMsgSsk&feature=youtu.be).

[TAAUBlaster]

The Superion G2 set is pure love :D

[Krayt]

I guess that means FunPub won't be able to release another G2 Breakdown toy.

Shut up!!!!... Crap too late....

There now you've gone and jinxed G2 menasor to being a fun pub/tfcc store exclusive!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

+
MP Starscream re-release confirmed - yay!
New cartoon - yay!

-
No Technobot limbs? :(
No Predacons or Terrorcons? :( :(
No DJD? Kind of expected, but still a shame.
Victorion's colour scheme is...well, terrible. Red makes for a good base colour, but doesn't really work with turquoise. Nice weapon and new hands though.

No news on that long-rumoured Legends Sharkticon and Kickback I take it?

[UltimateGalvatron]

Victorian sounded so good, a fem-bot combiner....
and Hasbro ruined it :mad: Her colours are SOOOOOO bad. Hopefully they are only pre-production models and the actual ones will look better.

G2 Superion however, looks good. I will get Scattor/Scattershot, although I don't know who he will combine with though.
Yay another MP release for people like me who only just got into the hobby.

Also...

No Predaking. :(

EDIT: Victorian does look a bit better combined then as individual bots. I like the hands and sword and the feet.

[CBratron]

Victorian sounded so good, a fem-bot combiner....
and Hasbro ruined it :mad: Her colours are SOOOOOO bad. Hopefully they are only pre-production models and the actual ones will look better.

EDIT: Victorian does look a bit better combined then as individual bots. I like the hands and sword and the feet.

Actually not quite Hasbro's fault. The fans voted on colour scheme.
but yes , it is eye bleedingly vibrant.

[Handsprime]

tbh i'm actually a little bit disappointed that she's an Autobot. We have too much Autobots and not enough Decepticons (which is why I'm not much of a fan of both AOE and Robots in Disguise's toylines because they don't have enough decepticons)

[UltimateGalvatron]

Actually not quite Hasbro's fault. The fans voted on colour scheme.
but yes , it is eye bleedingly vibrant.

Oh.

It still looks bad.

[DarkHyren]

So my take on things is that all the good news was revealed at botcon and all the bad news revealed at SDCC.
Don't care about G2 coloured redecos, though at least they are better looking then Victorion, yuck.
She looks so.... generic in my opinion, like oh look a bunch of drones that combine.
Also no technobots? I mean it's great that we've gotten then original teams of combiners so far but why release Scattorshot and none of his team mates?
I personally would have rather had no technobot then a second combiner core that relies on leftovers from other teams.
Had enough of that nonsense with Cyclonus.

[Paulbot]

Scattorshot's combined mode is a beta, surely a nod that he'll get some more appropriate limbs in the proper release. There's always Unite Warriors to come to the rescue too.

[CBratron]

Just noticed they went for new combiner feet and hands on Victorion. Soooo much better than the knuckle/toe guns of current combiners.

edit: and it looks like the only difference between the helicopter twins is one has a visor.

[Sinnertwin]

Scattorshot's combined mode is a beta, surely a nod that he'll get some more appropriate limbs in the proper release. There's always Unite Warriors to come to the rescue too.

Absolutely
A car, bike, plane and drill should be easy enough to manufacture

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

So, is that all?

Dunno about you guyz, but I found that somewhat boring. Victorion looks like rubbish. and a G2 Superion colouring? Scattershot? That's all? After the line drawings at Botcon, they got nothing else?

My wallet is happy

[Zommael]

Victorion is worth it just for that sword. Such a cool looking weapon.

[FruitBuyer]

Victorion is worth it just for that sword. Such a cool looking weapon.

And the better hands/feet!

I wish there was a way just to get that sword alone. I was interested in Victorion until I saw that colour-scheme, what was Hasbro thinking?

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

And the better hands/feet!

I wish there was a way just to get that sword alone. I was interested in Victorion until I saw that colour-scheme, what was Hasbro thinking?

They were thinking toffee apple

[Deano85]

Just noticed they went for new combiner feet and hands on Victorion. Soooo much better than the knuckle/toe guns of current combiners.

edit: and it looks like the only difference between the helicopter twins is one has a visor.

It makes you wonder why the leader figures couldn't all be packed with their own combiner feet and the deluxes with hands. Instead we got half done feet which struggle to pull off decent stances.

Ive got two sets of perfect effect feet. 1 for superion and 1 for menasor but finding it hard to justify getting a few more sets of black feet.

[Lord_Zed]

Those reveals are all absolutely hideous, In the case of some of the G2 releases maybe a good kind of hideous, which is accurate to the old toys, but still make you wonder if the nostalgia factor trumps what is a awful colour scheme.

Not sure what Victorion's excuse is, it's not so much the colour choices that bother me so much as the placement, it just looks like a blob of red and blue with no definition, and the individual robots look worse.

I except Scattershot will get some companions in time, but I doubt they will be new molds, he's not for me anyway.

So I know when Hasbro first started this whole retool thing, everyone was pleased Hasbro was doing some different looking toys from the same base mold as opposed to straight repaints, but does anyone think they may have taken it just a bit to far, I mean how many characters do we now have from 10 odd molds.

Maybe they should rebrand Combiner Wars to Retool Wars.

[CHILENO20]

The colour makes sense, they come from the Sea of Rust after all. That being said, a better layout would be in order. G2 Superion is much better but a pass as I don't collect different colour schemes of the same bot. Will be getting Victorian, it's a fembot combiner :)

[CBratron]

I'd buy her. And this is coming from a guy who hasn't bought any of the other combiners.

I also suspect there is more to be done. Two colours with maybe the odd dot of blue on the eyes? It hardly seems complete.

[CBratron]

One announcement at SDCC (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/transformers-combiner-wars-series-coming-to-machinima-296266) is that there will be some sort of animation being done for Combiner Wars by a company called Machinima (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima_Inc.)... but it is rather vague as to what format it will take, or how/where it will be broadcast. (and the details of what the company does was rather confusing, as they seem to do a wide variety of things)

This could be interesting, though I worry that it'd end up an animated comic.

[snaketales]

Victorion is uuuugly (but I'll probably still buy it)

If I didn't already have Quickslinger I'd be narked that that mold was being used only with the G2 Superion.

[Bladestorm]

Have to say I'm kind of disappointed with these reveals.

I'm really disappointed in Victorion.
Hate her colours, hate the "twin" Alpha Bravo's... could they not have retooled it a bit to make different helicopters or a more Cybertronian looking vehicle of some sort?
I do like her face and weapons, but if she stays in those ridiculous tones I'm not sure I could bear it!
I guess it also seems odd to me that if she is in the sea of rust she is so "bright". Wouldn't you want to be camouflaged/muted so you were less likely to be detected in a rusty environment? A rust coloured set (and I'm not talking about that ugly gold orange they use on AoE Grimlock) would have been kinda interesting/cool.

[Zommael]

I might suggest that the bright colour scheme of Victorion is to make her match up with the also quite garish colours of G2 Menasor and Superion, with which she'll be a co-sell. I quite like bright colours, too.

[Tober]

Hasbro Masterpiece Starscream (MP-11 mold)

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[Paulbot]

I missed the Hasbro MP Starscream news. I still need that mold so that might be how I get it.

[Lord_Zed]

I think Hasbro may need to differentiate more between their in production and completed toys, otherwise things are starting too look a bit cheapo.



Hasbro Masterpiece Starscream (MP-11 mold)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/B4702-Masterpiece-Starscream-Robot-Vehicle_zpsdoj8w1ld.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/user/AUST_Tober/media/B4702-Masterpiece-Starscream-Robot-Vehicle_zpsdoj8w1ld.jpg.html)

But will it be under $200?

If so then this is good news for me, I'd like a newer Starscream to fill out my Season one Decepticon leadership.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I think Hasbro may need to differentiate more between their in production and completed toys, otherwise things are starting too look a bit cheapo.




But will it be under $200?

If so then this is good news.

If pricing was reasonable... I think it would be between $100-$120 because Sunstorm was $130 but came with coronation gear

[Lord_Zed]

If pricing was reasonable... I think it would be between $100-$120 because Sunstorm was $130 but came with coronation gear

That's what I'm hoping. You can still get the Japanese one from BBTS for 200USD, but I'd rather not pay that.

My worry is that as Prowl and then other cars have cost so much in the US, Starscreams price will also be inflated.

[griffin]

edit: and it looks like the only difference between the helicopter twins is one has a visor.

The colours are slightly different as well - one helicopter is mostly green while the other helicopter is mostly red.
Robot modes are very similar though, but the extra colouring can still be seen to tell the two apart.


So, is that all?

Dunno about you guyz, but I found that somewhat boring. Victorion looks like rubbish. and a G2 Superion colouring? Scattershot? That's all? After the line drawings at Botcon, they got nothing else?


Yeah... where is the Titan Wars news... or at least, the confirmation that it was just a red herring to get fans distracted.

And I'd rather have SDCC "boring" with little new News, than seeing Hasbro once again having little revealed at the "fans convention" just so they could get media coverage by the regular media at SDCC.
I think this year they struck an acceptable balance. They gave us a heap of new reveals at BotCon that included Wave 2 for 2016, while the SDCC presentation didn't include Wave 2, but did include other items that weren't revealed at BotCOn... just so they get some regular media coverage of something that isn't "old news".
(it is important for the major toy companies to get non-fan media exposure, and if Hasbro showed off everything at BotCon, their competitors will get all the non-fan media coverage instead, because it isn't News anymore... but in recent years, Hasbro was embracing it too much, at the expense of the fan convention, like the Combiner Wars announcement last year, which should have been enjoyed by the fans and fansites first)


It makes you wonder why the leader figures couldn't all be packed with their own combiner feet and the deluxes with hands. Instead we got half done feet which struggle to pull off decent stances.

Ive got two sets of perfect effect feet. 1 for superion and 1 for menasor but finding it hard to justify getting a few more sets of black feet.

It's necessary to understand the priority of Hasbro is to get certain size classes under a certain production price. Having the one basic design for hands and feet for the whole first year, might have made enough savings in their 2015 budget to give us an extra mould or different robot heads or body sculpting.
What is the cost of the 3rd party feet and hands? Add that to the cost of the Hasbro toy and there would have been other costs cut, like more mould reuse in the jets and vehicles that wouldn't have made sense (like Offroad and Blast Off).
Considering the hands and feet are such a minor part of the toy, with the main focus being on their ability to combine and play like a single solid toy, I think they work well enough... and are heaps better than the Energon combiner hands/feet.


If I didn't already have Quickslinger I'd be narked that that mold was being used only with the G2 Superion.

Would you rather have the Alpha Bravo mould as the gold Slingshot? :p


I missed the Hasbro MP Starscream news. I still need that mold so that might be how I get it.

There was still a lot to digest out of it all, and I think I had about 6 postings after Hursticons big post o' pics.

Now to go back and look at the RID presentation and the Hasbro exhibit display... as I stayed up for the Generations presentation. :o

[griffin]

If pricing was reasonable... I think it would be between $100-$120 because Sunstorm was $130 but came with coronation gear


That's what I'm hoping. You can still get the Japanese one from BBTS for 200USD, but I'd rather not pay that.

My worry is that as Prowl and then other cars have cost so much in the US, Starscreams price will also be inflated.

Considering the pricing for Hasbro masterpiece toys went up after Soundwave to start costing more (in America) than the Japanese versions... and the 30% blowout of our exchange rate since last year, I'd be expecting $200 here for Starscream, and would be really surprised if it was anywhere around the $150 mark. :(

[Zommael]

They probably aren't done with the reveals yet. It's the first day of the con and they usually put more things in over the course of the weekend, or have in recent years at any rate. Does anyone know if they have any other panels scheduled?

[snaketales]

Would you rather have the Alpha Bravo mould as the gold Slingshot? :p



If that meant Slingshot would have been available locally as a trade-off, heck yeah :D
I've got no problem with Slingshot being on the G2 combiner war Superion... just would have been nice if it was available from Hasbro for the G1 one. But who knows, maybe they wanted that point of difference between the two.

[griffin]

They probably aren't done with the reveals yet. It's the first day of the con and they usually put more things in over the course of the weekend, or have in recent years at any rate. Does anyone know if they have any other panels scheduled?

The two presentations today was all that were scheduled... but like you say, they might still put out something new in the display case on the exhibit room floor.

And where are the Reissue Dinobots? :confused:
I was sure they'd be revealing them... as that would have been a great publicity element. Hopefully it is something they put out before the end of the weekend.


And how are people going with chasing up the exclusive toys?
Is anyone chasing them up as soon as possible or even have them pre-ordered from someone who was going to be at the SDCC, or will you wait until the hype dies down and see if prices come down like they did for last years toys?

[griffin]

The Generations Toys and Store Exclusives are now in the display case (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/sdcc-2015-hasbro-transformers-thursday-combiner-wars-case-296344).
To people new to the original Generation 2's wacky colours, the Stunticons and some of the Aerialbots are gonna look too weird to want to buy... but for a Gen1 fan to see that full Display Case photo (http://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/SDCC2015-Hasbro-Case-Transformers-Combiner-Wars-114-928x483.jpg), it's like a flashback to the past. :D


Official images now, mirrored on the global fansites...

Gen2 Superion (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/fan-voted-combiner-victorion-official-images-296663)

Gen2 Mensaor (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/g2-menasor-set-official-images-296580)

Victorion (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/fan-voted-combiner-victorion-official-images-296663)

Voyager Scattershot (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/combiner-wars-scattershot-official-images-296659) (scroll down a little to see a photo of it's combined mode in the display case, to see that it's combiner mode doesn't have any remoulding compared to Silverbolt... only the jet mode seems to have the remoulding)

Platinum Edition packs - Coneheads (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/platinum-edition-seeker-squadron-official-images-296641), Blaster/Perceptor (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/platinum-edition-blaster-and-perceptor-official-images-296633), Trypticon (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/platinum-edition-trypticon-official-images-296651)

Masterpiece - Bluestreak, Starscream (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/07/09/hasbro-masterpiece-bluestreak-and-starscream-official-images-296627).

[CBratron]

Scattershot looks like Silverbolt's shirt had an colourfast accident in the washing machine.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I was looking forward to Scattorshot, and unlike many in the comments section on the website I am still pretty pumped for it. His combined mode however is pretty 'meh'

Victorian looks a lot better in the stock photos rather then the SDCC toys we saw.

[Verno]

Well, what an almighty heap of 5#!+.

[Zommael]

So now, having some time to digest, I have to say Victorion is a must-buy for me for the new hands and feet and AWESOME SWORD. I'm disappointed with the helicopter modes though, but on the other hand a combiner with four helicopter limbs is now possible, so that's fun (I guess Cyclonus would have to be the core, hehe).

Bruticus and especially Superion I am wavering on. I currently have the original Superion with Alpha Bravo and I'm perfectly happy with it, but I do feel that the G2 colours look pretty good on the toy, plus I don't have Slingshot. It's the set I'm least likely to get atm, because I already have 5/6 of it.

Bruticus is a slightly different story; at present I just have the four Stunticon cars, not Motormaster or Blackjack. If Motormaster does get released over here before I go abroad, I may still pick him up, and then I'll start to be very iffy on the G2 Menasor set. On the other hand, if I don't see Motormaster before going away, I'm hoping I might have the chance to pick up Grand Scourge instead, and use him as the core for Menasor. If that happens there's a significantly higher chance of me grabbing the G2 set, as I'd only actually have 3/6, but it's not like Wildrider is enough of a draw to really be worth it. If I do get Menasor I'll probably get Superion too.

Pushing me towards getting the G2 sets is the fact that I already have G2 FOC Bruticus, and having the three on my shelf standing together with Laser Prime and maybe any other modern G2 figures I can find would be super-awesome. So we'll see. All of this is based on the prices being reasonable, too, either ordering from overseas or released in this country.

[Lord_Zed]

I think the colours on G2 Superion and Menasor look absolutely awful! Just like they are supposed to be. :)

My strange temptation to get one of them is a madness akin to a desire to buy and wear the loudest Hawaiian shirt one can imagine. :p

[griffin]

Seibertron have uploaded two of the video clips shown at the Generations presentation, and they should end up being uploaded by Hasbro eventually (if not already).

Combiner Wars promo video (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2015-transformers-combiner-wars-promo-video/33458/), featuring the Devastation Game.

Victorion design process (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/sdcc-2015-fan-built-combiner-victorion-reveal-video/33460/), including the thought behind some of the character and colour elements.
(the video says it is the result of the second annual fan-vote, but that's incorrect, as it was voted and revealed in 2013, while Victorion was voted and revealed in 2015... with each toy being released the following year - but this could mean more fan-vote toys are likely in future years)

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Actually not quite Hasbro's fault. The fans voted on colour scheme.
but yes , it is eye bleedingly vibrant.To be fair, the fans weren't exactly given great options there.

Blue, Cyan, Tan? Uhhh...no thanks.
Orange, Grey, Blue? Pass.
Red, Cyan, White? *sigh* Sure, whatever, the red sounds fine.

Thanks for Windblade @Hasbro, she's pretty great. Victorion...not so much.

[UltraMarginal]

I don't really care about the G2 stuff, Victorion has an interesting new head mold, incredible combining sword and I like the fact that the combined form is uniformly coloured, it's unfortunate that the colours look like a tray of toffee apples exploded. i'm also a bit surprised that the remolded chopper arms weren't used for the protectobots so their helicopter guy wasn't sporting missile racks.

I haven't seen anything in these reveals that I'm keen on. Scattershot is a massive disappointment.

[Zippo]

Love the G2 giftsets, while not needed in my collection its fantastic that Hasbro would go and do them. Hopefully in 2016 we see another G2 Bruticus giftset.

The Fan Combiner - love the sword, love the hands and feet but the rest is an easy pass. Not a fan of the colour schemes at all.

Scattorshot is such a disappointment - didn't Hasbro just say at Botcon that they would be doing teams now, so why are they making Scattorshot part of a new combiner and not doing anything with the torso mode to make it look different to Superion.

News on no Beasts is also very frustrating, and I really hope that it's just part of a late 2016 plan they don't want to talk about. Predaking and Abominus need to be made

[MayzaPrime]

So happy that we are getting G2 gift sets... Can't wait to get them :D

Hopefully G2 Devastator isnt too far down the road :p

Victoriton... I am not a fan of the colour, but I will still get it, cause I love my fembots ;)

[Seraphim Prime]

I think the issue with Victorion's colour scheme is that those three colours could look pretty interesting if the palette was spread between all 5 figures, with each taking on one of the predominant colours and having other colours for back up, however Hasbro decided to have the team share the one colour scheme, and so the figures have come out as they have.

[Lord_Zed]

To be fair, the fans weren't exactly given great options there.

Blue, Cyan, Tan? Uhhh...no thanks.
Orange, Grey, Blue? Pass.
Red, Cyan, White? *sigh* Sure, whatever, the red sounds fine.


I think orange grey and blue would work a lot better as long as either orange or blue were used sparingly as spot colour and the break up colour was grey.

Red Cyan and white might have worked to if Hasbro had limited either red or Cyan and broken it up with some white. As it stand Victorion is all Red and Cyan clash with no white at all to break it up. I guess maybe they wanted to ape that old red and blue collector club combiner, who also looked terrible.

[kurdt_the_goat]

If TakaraTomy "wtf'd" at Hasbro chopping the odd combiner limb... i wonder what they think about the fully amputee'd "Computron" they've made!

[Zommael]

The more I look at Victorion, the more it grows on me. The colours being so bright along with the head sculpt and sword give it a kind of otherworldly feel which is pretty cool. I hope that's preserved in the final product.

[Bidoofdude]

Kind of disappointing. G2 Superion and Motormaster are call, but I probably won't get to buy them, already tight on buying the regular stuff.

Scattershot's actually decent in alt mode and robot mode (mainly the head), but the combined mode is just disappointing. Unless this is some early stage thing, it seems like they just gave up on Computron. Hopefully Takara will satisfy everyone (which they seem to be doing).

Victorion's alright, nothing grand, but there for those that like it.

I was expecting more from SDCC, but at least we got an over compensation at Botcon, with Bruticus, Buzzsaw, Shockwave, Sky Lynx, G1 cars etc, which should keep us (me at least) going for a while.

Somewhat disappointed about no plans for beasties. Hopefully it happens some time.

[Paulbot]

Victorion's colours look better in the promo shots than the samples at the fair, but then there's the mix of photoshop vs painted up samples at play too.

The more faded green seen in the comic would be nice, but the main catch is the lack of another colour in the mix. Only a few of the G1 scramble city combiners really had a consistent colour scheme and when they did it was three four or five colours in the mix.

I think if they'd been more liberal with the silver/white paint it might work better. For instance paint all the thighs silver or something. Or really reverse out the combinations on the two cars and helicopters - the helicopters look identical in combined mode.

[griffin]

A new Hasbro site is being launched (http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=428&size=2&image=68) for collectors to see new releases, participate in polls and hear from the Designers.


Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it (http://pulse.hasbro.com/en-us) when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-pulse-welcome-packages-arriving-now/33465/).... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(

[Defcon]

I have to say Victorion looks quiet terrible. Yeah the colors are gaudy, but that dosen't bother me as much as the lazy use of previous molds. Its a shame they couldn't make at least one new mold. Just to quote something similar to what someone else said, Hasbro should rename Combiner wars, to something like Retool Wars. Lol.
The G2 boxsets for Stunticons, and Aerialbots are exactly as I was hoping for. Maybe they are not must buys, but since I have a shelf with more than a few G2 figures, Im likely to get them.

[UltraMarginal]

Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it (http://pulse.hasbro.com/en-us) when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-pulse-welcome-packages-arriving-now/33465/).... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(

it almost feels like the rumblings of a funpub replacement.

[griffin]

it almost feels like the rumblings of a funpub replacement.

All they have to do is start doing some fan-voted toys (like the JP Generations book toy last year for Go-Shooter) through that site, and the Collector Club loses its only real monopoly that it has left.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Kind of disappointing. G2 Superion and Motormaster are call, but I probably won't get to buy them, already tight on buying the regular stuff.

Scattershot's actually decent in alt mode and robot mode (mainly the head), but the combined mode is just disappointing. Unless this is some early stage thing, it seems like they just gave up on Computron. Hopefully Takara will satisfy everyone (which they seem to be doing).

Yeah, I can easily bypass the G2 Aerielbots, but I must admit the G2 Stunticons look damn good! Considering I already have the G1 versions and am getting the UW Menasor I don't think my budget will allow for a 3rd.

In complete agreeance on Scattorshot. WOuld have preferred something a bit more like his G1 Spacecruiser form as I thought that was an awesome toy - especially with the cannon emplacement 3rd mode. This is good, but nowhere near as good. And combined mode looks WAY too much like Superion! :(


Victorion's alright, nothing grand, but there for those that like it.



Victorion's colours look better in the promo shots than the samples at the fair, but then there's the mix of photoshop vs painted up samples at play too.

The more faded green seen in the comic would be nice, but the main catch is the lack of another colour in the mix. Only a few of the G1 scramble city combiners really had a consistent colour scheme and when they did it was three four or five colours in the mix.

I think if they'd been more liberal with the silver/white paint it might work better. For instance paint all the thighs silver or something. Or really reverse out the combinations on the two cars and helicopters - the helicopters look identical in combined mode.


I have to say Victorion looks quiet terrible. Yeah the colors are gaudy, but that dosen't bother me as much as the lazy use of previous molds. Its a shame they couldn't make at least one new mold. Just to quote something similar to what someone else said, Hasbro should rename Combiner wars, to something like Retool Wars. Lol.


It could be worse - the first female combiner could have looked like this :eek: http://gideonhoss.deviantart.com/art/BITCHASOR-Buxoticon-Combiner-274926397

[MayzaPrime]

I was planning on getting the Takara Arielbots and Stuntacons, now with the G2 sets coming out I think that I will give it a miss... :D

[philby]

It could be worse - the first female combiner could have looked like this :eek: http://gideonhoss.deviantart.com/art/BITCHASOR-Buxoticon-Combiner-274926397

lol
the names are awesome: motormistress, dragstripper, wildride, rear end and godown!

[BigTransformerTrev]

lol
the names are awesome: motormistress, dragstripper, wildride, rear end and godown!

Thinking of making Rearend my screensaver lol :D

If I knew how to shrink images I'd make it my new Ozformers avatar :p

[griffin]

Some galleries for the SDCC Transformers toy exclusives - Devastator (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-galleries-sdcc-constructicons-scrapper-hook-long-haul-bonecrusher-scavenger-and-mixmaster/33410/) and the 3-pack Combiner Hunters (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-galleries-sdcc-2015-combiner-hunters-arcee-windblade-and-chromia/33426/).

[ampoldj]

The Combiner Wars line has been very exciting with the start of Superion Menasor, Defensor and Devastator but after that it is slowly getting redundant with only lazy repaints and minimal remoulds with only Bruticus seems to be the last to reignite the excitement

[Alpha Supreme]

The Combiner Wars line has been very exciting with the start of Superion Menasor, Defensor and Devastator but after that it is slowly getting redundant with only lazy repaints and minimal remoulds with only Bruticus seems to be the last to reignite the excitement

Perhaps they had a certain budget for Combiner Wars, and as stated on Hasbro pulse website, they make a second head for every mold but don't necessarily use it. CW will most likely lead into Titan Wars? Just spit balling.

[ampoldj]

Well we may not understand what Hasbro's budget or target profit is but there seems to be no other toy line with so much redundancy than the CW line. Also we may notice how TFs become smaller and lighter (and weaker plastics) when we compare TFTM toys to TF DoTM/AoE toys.

[Arctorro]

Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it (http://pulse.hasbro.com/en-us) when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-pulse-welcome-packages-arriving-now/33465/).... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(Just wanted to post an update to this.

I signed up as soon as the pulse site was promoted on the fan sites, not caring about the package, and didn't know until Griffin posted this that I wouldn't be able to receive the emails.

When signing up I entered my address with a state starting with v, as a laugh, figuring that if Hasbro wanted to once again turn their back on their international customers then they could waste one package on an incorrect address.



Then this arrived in the mail today!
http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/Arctorro/pulse01_zpsjibdgmbg.jpg
http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/Arctorro/pulse02_zpsyhwqlgzw.jpg

The package is basically pointless, but it is still funny that I eventually received it.

[griffin]

That is pretty impressive... and if it had something worthwhile in it, I'd be recommending others try it as well.

I wonder how they figured out that you were in Australia, because I don't remember seeing a country option on the registration screen.

Even if you could enter your full address, I'm amazed that they bothered to send it, as it cost them US$8.22, compared to probably a dollar to an American... and they would have been forgiven for not sending it out if they weren't advertising this website to non-Americans.

That SDCC card was kinda pointless to the majority of Americans as well, as they were sent out during SDCC was on, and unless you were already going (bought tickets months ago), I doubt more than a couple people were even able to get anything out of it.

[Arctorro]

That is pretty impressive... and if it had something worthwhile in it, I'd be recommending others try it as well.

I wonder how they figured out that you were in Australia, because I don't remember seeing a country option on the registration screen.

Even if you could enter your full address, I'm amazed that they bothered to send it, as it cost them US$8.22, compared to probably a dollar to an American... and they would have been forgiven for not sending it out if they weren't advertising this website to non-Americans.

That SDCC card was kinda pointless to the majority of Americans as well, as they were sent out during SDCC was on, and unless you were already going (bought tickets months ago), I doubt more than a couple people were even able to get anything out of it.While I was blacking out personal details I (just now realised) also blacked out 'Melbourne', so someone must've noticed that and realised it wasn't an American address.

As for the shipping, it is doubtful that all the people handling the packing and shipping of these have any idea who they are intended for. Someone must've gotten the information from Hasbro's computer system and just figured it was supposed to be posted.

They had all my details except for state and country, even my post code (I just added a zero for their 5 digit zip code) and with the 'VT' where 'VIC' should be, once someone added Australia at the bottom everything that was needed was there :D

[Bidoofdude]

That's a kickass cover.

[griffin]

It's an exclusive cover too... so you might be one of the few Australians who will end up with one. (other people will probably get one, but have to pay for it from other people who got it)

Does that mean you are also on their emailing list now too?

[Arctorro]

It's an exclusive cover too... so you might be one of the few Australians who will end up with one. (other people will probably get one, but have to pay for it from other people who got it)

Does that mean you are also on their emailing list now too?Oh the irony. While I've bought a few of the comics, they now sit on a shelf unfinished because I just wasn't that interested :D

I haven't received any emails, do you know if Hasbro have started sending them yet? Looking at the Pulse site there appears to have been only one or two updates since it's launch.

[Zommael]

The Combiner Wars line has been very exciting with the start of Superion Menasor, Defensor and Devastator but after that it is slowly getting redundant with only lazy repaints and minimal remoulds with only Bruticus seems to be the last to reignite the excitement

I can't disagree that there's a good deal of redundancy. Reusing the stunticon moulds for the third or fourth time for Sky Reign, for example, is starting to wear thin. That said I do disagree that the repaints are in any way lazy; reimagining those moulds as G1 characters who haven't had toys for a while is at least inventive.

But for me Bruticus is actually one of the biggest missteps. Superion, Bruticus, and Devastator are the three combiners that always get made whenever Hasbro returns to the combiner well. We had a new Bruticus toy only a couple of years ago. For me, to see that Hasbro are churning out another new Bruticus yet again, but all we get from Computron is a Scattershot repaint with little new moulding and no new combined mode is heartbreaking. I can't bring myself to be excited for Bruticus when that slot could and should have gone to Computron.

On the other hand, Sky Lynx looks awesome, and while not the most breathtaking of released, the G2 repaints are at least fun. I can see why opinion is divided on Victorion, but I for one am looking forward to her. I just wish we could have got Computron instead of Bruticus #512.

[UltraMarginal]

I wouldn't be surprised if a proper complete computron is revealed down the road. after all they called this one betatron, it's almost like they are trolling the fandom.

[Zommael]

I wouldn't be surprised if a proper complete computron is revealed down the road. after all they called this one betatron, it's almost like they are trolling the fandom.

I live in hope. Three out of the four deluxes can be done relatively easily with existing moulds (Afterburner being a repaint of Takara's Groove), but I can't see Nosecone coming from anything we've already seen unless they completely redesign the alt mode. Also, with the recent kerfuffle about his name being assigned to a Dinobot, I'd bet Strafe would be the most likely to be replaced with a new character. That said, unless Hasbro have really decided to go whole hog for NYCC which they normally don't, I think they're done with Combiner Wars after Sky Reign. Which is sad.

[DarkHyren]

I haven't received any emails, do you know if Hasbro have started sending them yet?I received one on the 7th of July, I'm guessing it will probably be a monthly newsletter.
Nothing special in it, just links to some articles on the Pulse website, although the article about Quickslinger & Brake-Neck was an interesting read.

[prjkt]

I live in hope. Three out of the four deluxes can be done relatively easily with existing moulds (Afterburner being a repaint of Takara's Groove), but I can't see Nosecone coming from anything we've already seen unless they completely redesign the alt mode. Also, with the recent kerfuffle about his name being assigned to a Dinobot, I'd bet Strafe would be the most likely to be replaced with a new character. That said, unless Hasbro have really decided to go whole hog for NYCC which they normally don't, I think they're done with Combiner Wars after Sky Reign. Which is sad.

Well there are supposed to be four full Combiners a year plus box sets and "extra" torsos, we know of Bruticus and Sky Reign for 2016, Victorion and the G2 sets are box sets, so there's still a chance of Computron being one of the other two.

[Arctorro]

I received one on the 7th of July, I'm guessing it will probably be a monthly newsletter.
Nothing special in it, just links to some articles on the Pulse website, although the article about Quickslinger & Brake-Neck was an interesting read.I'll keep an eye out. It is possible that email ended up in my spam folder.

[Zommael]

Well there are supposed to be four full Combiners a year plus box sets and "extra" torsos, we know of Bruticus and Sky Reign for 2016, Victorion and the G2 sets are box sets, so there's still a chance of Computron being one of the other two.

Yeah, but what about Titan Wars?

I hate being negative about this hobby, I really do, but I just can't help feeling gipped that we got yet another Bruticus instead of Computron. I just can't. And I think Hasbro are about ready to move on after wave 6. I really hope I'm wrong.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I think one thing I dislike about CW is that only some Legends and the Leaders don't actually combine. Why can't we have more normal deludes and voyagers?

#waitingforcomputron

[prjkt]

Yeah, but what about Titan Wars?

I hate being negative about this hobby, I really do, but I just can't help feeling gipped that we got yet another Bruticus instead of Computron. I just can't. And I think Hasbro are about ready to move on after wave 6. I really hope I'm wrong.

Titan Wars is 2017 I think, which makes sense, as Hasbro have been saying CW would go for two years.

As for Bruticus, I'm actually glad he's getting the CW treatment, sure there was the FOC hack and the PCC/Movieverse versions, but Superion got that too, and I want a set of Combaticons that fit in with my other CW figures. The two waves of random Autobots are less appealing to me, but to newer or younger collectors, to be able to pick up versions characters that haven't been released in 6-10 years is still a pretty sweet offering from Hasbro.

[griffin]

I gave it a go at registering, to see what happens... to see if they've put a stop to non-Americans getting around the registration restrictions, and if they have any of the exclusive comics left to send out.

In the city box, I put down "Sunnybank-Australia" and a zero in front of the four digit "Zipcode" (in case it rejected it for not having the minimum 5 digits of American zipcodes).
For the state code though, the closest one to QLD looked to be ID (Idaho).

We'll see how it goes.... even if it is just getting on the emailing list, that's okay.

[griffin]

Thinking more about it later (when things are clearer in hindsight as usual), if anyone else here wants to try it and you live in one of the four largest capital cities, perhaps put your suburb on the 2nd address box, and list your capital city with Australia in the suburb/city box, like "Brisbane-Australia", to make it more familiar if they recognise the name of Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth. Although, the first two are probably the only ones that will be recognised by foreigners.