First glimpse of Titan Wars Fort Max?

[fatbot]

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo146/fatbot/92C7A9A3-46A3-49C1-BEF0-D605C481E60F_zpsjez70fwz.jpg (http://s370.photobucket.com/user/fatbot/media/92C7A9A3-46A3-49C1-BEF0-D605C481E60F_zpsjez70fwz.jpg.html)

Thoughts?

[yoshi594]

mmm dunno about u guys but I'm not feeling it. It doesn't look like he'll be able to transform into his iconic city mode...

he looks like a no neck body builder lol.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

he looks like a no neck body builder lol.

To be fair, the original did look like a no neck bodybuilder as well:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/a/a6/G1FortressMaximus_toy.jpg


But the real question is, will he still have the questionably-placed rotating handle on his crotch?

[DaptoDog]

Looks interesting, will be good to get some high res images before passing full judgement. I've never had G1 Fort Max so look forward to getting this one.

[DELTAprime]

Ok, so how long do I have to wait for a Takara Tomy version?

[UltimateGalvatron]

Waiting for better pic...


I am really disappointed to see I'm not feeling it yet (first thing in TW line...)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Are we sure this is real? Could be a fan made fake

[Jaxius._]

Are we sure this is real? Could be a fan made fake

I'm taking it as fake for now, or at least with a grain of salt

[Raider]

Well I'm just gonna say... I love it! Looks like some solid articulation points around the legs. Can't really tell with the arms. The neck does look a little thick but it appears as though the photo is taken from below the waist which makes the shoulders and head look thicker. Looking forward to more shots but I'm impressed.

[Sinnertwin]

Are we sure this is real? Could be a fan made fake

Possibly
The name change to "Titans Return" isn't reflected on the slide, but it may even be just an older image.

[ILikeSoundwave]

Looks like a retool of Metroplex.

[MayzaPrime]

That February release date seems really close... I thought Titan Wars wasn't going to kick off until later in 2016...

[Verno]

That February release date seems really close... I thought Titan Wars wasn't going to kick off until later in 2016...
They're getting it out of the way early to give more time to the Beast Wars anniversary :p

[Handsprime]

I'm gonna be waiting for more details.
And with people saying its a retool of Metroplex, again I'm gonna be waiting to see the actual product.
It could be fake, it could be real. I mean that leaked picture of Blaster was proven to be real, so who says this isn't?
And it most likely will have a city mode, because well if Metroplex has one, why shouldn't Fortress Maximus have one?


And while I'm at it
"This needs a Robots In Disguise Redeco"
"Where are the Decepticon City Bots we need those"
"I bet its gonna cost $500"

[UltimateGalvatron]

And while I'm at it
"This needs a Robots In Disguise Redeco"
"Where are the Decepticon City Bots we need those"
"I bet its gonna cost $500"

"We need an exclusive with a Pretender Shell for Grand Maximus!"

[Bidoofdude]

If legit, he's very beefy in robot mode, something that might have been worrying, considering he came from Metroplex. I don't mind the city mode. The flats bits are nice.

[fatbot]

I'm wondering if it's some sort of exclusive. It does say exclusive on there twice.

[Raider]

I'm guessing they will issue a standard version and an exclusive version. Might even follow along the lines of what they did with metroplex and have a tonne of variants released.

I get the feeling they sometimes think "oh hey let's paint the arms a lighter shade, slap the exclusive tag on it, and charge and extra 50. Collectors will still buy it!"

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't see how this Fort Max is at all a redeco/retool of Metroplex. As far as I can tell, it appears to be an entirely new mould.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/tw_fortmaxmetroplex_zpsuiy8yqlp.jpg

Yes, it is very bulky and blocky, as it should be! Fortress Maximus has always been one chunky son-of-a-gun.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Metroplex/th_gen_metroplex07_zps89790e1c.jpg
And I suspect that he still has a battleship mode, it's just not shown here. Let's face it, the difference between Fort Max's city and battleship modes isn't all that great. Much like the difference between Metroplex's city and mobile fortress modes which are just variants of the base alt mode. These city-formers aren't exactly proper Triple Changers by any stretch of the imagination (there are Legends Class figures with more complex transformations). :p
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Fortress%20Maximus/th_fortmax_encore01_zps68273b3d.jpg→turn around, extend the legs, flip up the ramps -- you're done! →http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Fortress%20Maximus/th_fortmax_encore16_zps1524e746.jpg

[ILikeSoundwave]

The lower arms look almost identical to Metroplex.

[SMHFConvoy]

Looks good but I think that the photo was resized without constraining the proportions. If he is that chunky I may have to buy my 1st titan class tf

[Starscream77]

Looks good but I think that the photo was resized without constraining the proportions.

This ^
If you imagine that picture stretched you can see Metro, look at the legs

[BruiseLee]

This ^
If you imagine that picture stretched you can see Metro, look at the legs

This does seem to be the case which if it is would make for a rather lean Fort Max. Not as interesting if so but if it isn't a squished pic then it looks pretty good.

[GoktimusPrime]

This ^
If you imagine that picture stretched you can see Metro, look at the legs
Aaaaah, now I see it. :D It's still a pretty significant retool of Metroplex, and I suppose retooling the Metroplex mould helps Hasbro to save money, and also make more money back on what they spent to develop Metroplex in the first place (since he's yet to have a mass-retail redeco).

[Paulbot]

If you want to see what the dimensions may be, stretched to look like the line art, I saw this on twitter (https://twitter.com/generaltekno/status/665229167454097408):

http://i.imgur.com/jIg6ZTD.jpg

[prjkt]

Definitely looks like a retool of Metroplex, and it seems his legs are bent a little too in that pic, looks like his upper legs are at a slightly forward angle

[UltimateGalvatron]

The unstretched version looks much better. Better then Metroplex, IMO

[SMHFConvoy]

If you want to see what the dimensions may be, stretched to look like the line art, I saw this on twitter (https://twitter.com/generaltekno/status/665229167454097408).

Still has chunky proportions that I like :)

[Seraphim Prime]

I don't think it's a retool in the sense of how it used to be used (same figure, couple of different parts eg: Generations Arcee & Legends Nightbird), but rather is more like the example of Prime Arcee and Generations Chromia - an almost new figure, with shared engineering and some shared pieces.

This can be seen in the way that Metro and Maximus shared the same forearms/fists, but for the rest of the body (shoulders, chest, waist, legs, etc) it looks like new pieces were made, BUT some of the engineering principles were maintained. This is most apparent in the legs, which look new, but appear to transform similarly to Metroplex's.

[MayzaPrime]

The question remains... Is Fortress Maximus going to take back the title of largest Transformer from Metroplex? :p

[Jaxius._]

His knees seem to be bent

[Golden Phoenix]

The question remains... Is Fortress Maximus going to take back the title of largest Transformer from Metroplex? :p

I think it will depend if you counted Metroplex's shoulder cannons.

[Zommael]

It also depends how you measure "largest". Metroplex is certainly the tallest Transformer ever produced, but Fortress Maximus beats him in the weight department quite significantly. On the other hand that's far from a fair comparison: as a modern toy, Metroplex has significantly improved engineering which allows him to have the same sort of strength and sturdiness without the need for the sheer amount of plastic. On the third hand (shut up I have three hands) some fans do seem to value the actual amount of plastic they get per toy quite highly, so taking that into account Fortress Maximus still gets the title.

I say who cares, they're about the same.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I reckon there might be a voyager sized one as well. Maybe, Didnt the scan lines image have tank looking treads on it? From this preliminary, unconfirmed image...:p They appear to be missing.

[Paulbot]

I reckon there might be a voyager sized one as well. Maybe, Didnt the scan lines image have tank looking treads on it? From this preliminary, unconfirmed image...:p They appear to be missing.

On another forum I saw speculation that this is a limited first release exclusive "G1" version, more g1 by not having the tank treads. The wording, that it comes with an "exclusive sword and Titan master figure" and "Premium G1 deco and labels", and the limited quantities would support that theory.

[SuspectimusPrime]

It also depends how you measure "largest". Metroplex is certainly the tallest Transformer ever produced, but Fortress Maximus beats him in the weight department quite significantly. On the other hand that's far from a fair comparison: as a modern toy, Metroplex has significantly improved engineering which allows him to have the same sort of strength and sturdiness without the need for the sheer amount of plastic. On the third hand (shut up I have three hands) some fans do seem to value the actual amount of plastic they get per toy quite highly, so taking that into account Fortress Maximus still gets the title.

I say who cares, they're about the same.

I think TakaraTomy/Hasbro will definitely be measuring "largeness" by height seeing how TFA Lockdown has been recently re-released in voyager-sized packaging and price point.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I think TakaraTomy/Hasbro will definitely be measuring "largeness" by height seeing how TFA Lockdown has been recently re-released in voyager-sized packaging and price point.

It wasn't a voyager price, but it was more expensive than the other deluxes. He was shoved into a voyager sized box though, which kind of makes sense since he was meant to be a voyager height robot. Comparing him to current deluxe trends, he is a fair bit larger.
Link to a shot of TAV Locky nxt to a voyager (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WlFsv_eP2qg/VZvdEZYLygI/AAAAAAAAnKo/2cq22MdFPFA/s1600-h/ShopPic.jpg)
Robot mode with WIndblade (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4uhJH4_8c6A/VZvetMM1lzI/AAAAAAAAnSI/fndCQP_Qxf4/s1600-h/ROTFLockdown-445.jpg)
Vehicle mode with Off-Road (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BiWgrovo07Q/VZvgSRZqWHI/AAAAAAAAnZI/8BTO-tZhALY/s1600-h/TAVLockdown%252520%25252874%252529%25255B4%25255D. jpg)

From a marketting POV, if he isn't taller than Metro, they could always go with
The Heaviest Generations toy ever!

[griffin]

Labelling it as the "biggest" would still be accurate if Fort Max is heavier or bulkier, which it looks to be, going by that small image (even when stretched out).
If it is recycling Metroplex parts, it is probably just the legs and arms... the abdomen part between the waist joint and arms looks significantly different to Metroplex and a lot bulkier, which could make it weigh more if it doesn't stand taller.
(but I would assume for marketing purposes to retailers and on the box to consumers, they will do something with it to make it record-breaking in some way, otherwise it will just be "another" big expensive plastic robot to retailers who don't care about names and characters)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Labelling it as the "biggest" would still be accurate if Fort Max is heavier or bulkier, which it looks to be, going by that small image (even when stretched out).
If it is recycling Metroplex parts, it is probably just the legs and arms... the abdomen part between the waist joint and arms looks significantly different to Metroplex and a lot bulkier, which could make it weigh more if it doesn't stand taller.
(but I would assume for marketing purposes to retailers and on the box to consumers, they will do something with it to make it record-breaking in some way, otherwise it will just be "another" big expensive plastic robot to retailers who don't care about names and characters)
The biggest HEADED Transformer ever!

?

[UltimateGalvatron]

The biggest Headmaster ever?
The biggest Titan Master ever?
Has the biggest sword ever?

[Handsprime]

Has the biggest...

you know what I'm not actually gonna go there

[SuspectimusPrime]

The biggest HEADED Transformer ever!

?

Those are chock full of... heady goodness.

[5FDP]

Metroplex has the longest legs which makes him look disproportionate. He is the tallest, but definitely not the biggest.

[Golden Phoenix]

The biggest HEADED Transformer ever!

?

I'm pretty sure Starscream has the biggest Ego

[Zommael]

I'm pretty sure Starscream has the biggest Ego

Yeah, but he also has that lovely crown to keep it in.

[Starscream77]

I'm pretty sure Starscream has the biggest Ego

Hey hey hey thems fighting words !!! :p

[Handsprime]

This ended up showing on my facebook newsfeed which is said to be a tweet from Hasbro
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12239674_966680120064595_5862321619973526294_n.jpg ?oh=01653d0e8185f32d8465a4f16ce52396&oe=56E83FE1&__gda__=1454746969_6f89da4d6e24ac1cf4adc0791efd529 a

I'm still taking it as a grain of salt till we get more details soon.

[M-bot]

This ended up showing on my facebook newsfeed which is said to be a tweet from Hasbro
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12239674_966680120064595_5862321619973526294_n.jpg ?oh=01653d0e8185f32d8465a4f16ce52396&oe=56E83FE1&__gda__=1454746969_6f89da4d6e24ac1cf4adc0791efd529 a

I'm still taking it as a grain of salt till we get more details soon.

This pic makes me feel very certain it's a retool (however heavy) of Metroplex, from the legs and feet. The previously released pics seem to have arms very much reminiscent of Metroplex. I'm guessing the torso and head will be the biggest departure.

I think that also fits in with the way we've been seeing re-tooling done with recent combiner wars toys.

[Handsprime]

Fortress Maximus confirmed (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/20/fortress-maximus-powermaster-prime-g2-bruticus-revealed-305620)

[prjkt]

Do want this. Don't know if I'll have the space or the cash, but do want.

[SuspectimusPrime]

Won't have the space, but I need this. Especially if there's a chance that they're do a Titan Scorponok down the line.

[liegeprime]

and this is why I have boxed up the Unicron trilogy from the display room... now I have more space for upcoming CHUGURwhatever toys :D:D which are getting bigger and bigger space eaters :p.....Now if they aonly get on with making Trypticon...

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

From zmultiplier via weibo (reposted by DaimChoc (https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/photos/a.100410510309385.1073741828.100402350310201/200898826927219/?type=3))

http://i.imgur.com/mRuvNlW.jpg

Looks a lot like Metroplex, but the presence of the sword and shape of the head makes people think it's Fort Max.

[prjkt]

That building on fire and the smoke looks like part of a face