First look at Titans Return Powermaster Optimus

[Verno]

If we're talking grains of salt...

https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12241720_1045616998806454_8142871754136922809_n.jp g?oh=e51633c0913ac97592c75089d4462051&oe=56AE2400

Pics were found on weibo apparently.

[1AZRAEL1]

If we're talking grains of salt...

https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12241720_1045616998806454_8142871754136922809_n.jp g?oh=e51633c0913ac97592c75089d4462051&oe=56AE2400

Pics were found on weibo apparently.

I'll be taking that with the entire salt content of the ocean. Hate these blurry small images. Just release good ones dammit. It's much like the pictures of the elusive Loch Ness monster and the Sasquatch

[griffin]

This person on TFW (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1055744-titan-wars-powermaster-optimus-prime.html) claims to have created the blown up collage above... so just crediting him just in case he did.

[Verno]

If it proves to be legit, now is a better time to be a G1 fan than back in G1...

[griffin]

I'll be taking that with the entire salt content of the ocean. Hate these blurry small images. Just release good ones dammit. It's much like the pictures of the elusive Loch Ness monster and the Sasquatch

The rumour has been around for a while, from a source that has been getting a fair few right so far for Titans Return... and this toy was already listed in an American Walmart store computer as a Leader class toy... so seeing that it is recycling the cab part of Ultra Magnus and maybe some other parts, I'd say this is pretty likely.

[1AZRAEL1]

The rumour has been around for a while, from a source that has been getting a fair few right so far for Titans Return... and this toy was already listed in an American Walmart store computer as a Leader class toy... so seeing that it is recycling the cab part of Ultra Magnus and maybe some other parts, I'd say this is pretty likely.

I completely forgot about that Walmart listing. Touchè. Could well be true. Drawing back into collecting non MP stuff with some of this CW/TW

[DELTAprime]

I want to see a God Ginrai version of this complete with God Bomber.

[Handsprime]

Whens the next toy fair for announcing toys? Maybe when that comes around we might get to see Fortress Maximus and Powermaster Optimus Prime in all their glory.

[Raider]

If it proves to be legit, now is a better time to be a G1 fan than back in G1...

More costly too!

[MayzaPrime]

:eek: Colour me impressed... I really hope that the cab will transform into a smaller Optimus... I might look at Ultra Magnus tonight to see if it is possible. :p

[BigTransformerTrev]

Just when I think I don't want any more Optimus toys..., they pull me back in!

[Sinnertwin]

From Ben's world of transformers on FB


Leaked photos from yesterday's Hasbro event have begun to circulate on the web. I am not reposting them as I (and other sites) were asked to respect an embargo by Hasbro until tomorrow. You will get to see this stuff on BWTF tomorrow in high quality, not poorly Photoshopped and watermarked pictures. Thank you all for your patience.


No doubt along with the rest of the internet

[Paulbot]

I hope they tell us this is actually Ginrai. We've got enough Optimus Prime toys and code names in computer systems aren't always the toy's name (see Ivan, Max, Paulie, etc ).

[DaptoDog]

Just when I think I don't want any more Optimus toys..., they pull me back in!

Yeh I know, just wanted to focus on Masterpiece, G1 Combiners and G1 Titans. Don't know if I can resist this one, never had G1 Powermaster Optimus Prime.

[Gofigure]

If it proves to be legit, now is a better time to be a G1 fan than back in G1...

Brilliant!!!!!

[GoktimusPrime]

I suspect that Hasbro will go with Optimus Prime, as Ginrai isn't as widely known to more casual consumers. No doubt TakaraTOMY will go for Ginrai though. I reckon the inner robot/car will be fashioned after Hi-Q (or human Ginrai for TakTOM). You could imagine it like an upgraded form of an Exo-Suit. :D

[Lord_Zed]

Hmmm looks ok but I wish they could add a few more points of articulation to the mold. I mean it's an improvement on the originals articulation, but still Magnus's lack of ankles and wrists really bug me.

[Chevron Action Flash]

Looks like a re-skin of combiner wars Magnus. Interesting but nothing to get too excited about. Those who use names like 'Ginrai' are just flogs.

[fatbot]

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[fatbot]

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[BigTransformerTrev]

Freakin awesome! :eek:

[MayzaPrime]

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:eek::eek: Holy crap... So awesome... Must contain excitement

[ZoonMaster5000]

I thought this was pretty cool till I realised he's a headmaster not a powermaster would of been a nice touch if they could of fitted hi-q into the grill in truck mode.

As for calling him Ginrai because he doesn't separate from the trailer wouldn't that make him God Ginrai?:D

[drifand]

Only mp for me for this guy. I will pass.

[DELTAprime]

For a mould that's based on another mould he looks rather unique. Not bad. I wonder why they called the mini robot APEX, oh wait, no I don't, copyright...

[CHILENO20]

HOLY CRAP!!!! :eek::eek::eek: I'M IN!!!!

[UltimateGalvatron]

This guy is gonna lead my Classics Autobots, as my only other Classics Prime is acting as Motormaster for my Menasor. IMO he looks better then CW Magnus, and is about on par with Takara's Magnus.

[drifand]

Too much holes in the arm/hand area

[Gofigure]

Life just keeps getting better...

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

It looks pretty good all things considered. I'm pretty impressed by the base mode.

You've gotta give 'em credit, HTT has gotten their remolds down pat lately.

[griffin]

Images are from an online presentation by Hasbro America, via Google Hangouts, with invite American fansites.

Details of the event (http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/20/fortress-maximus-powermaster-prime-g2-bruticus-revealed-305620) (images, info and questions that fans asked) can be seen here.

[GoktimusPrime]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_chugurluw_zpsjjhdmu9s.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_shutuptakemoney_zps76ac2e92.jpg
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I reckon the inner robot/car will be fashioned after Hi-Q (or human Ginrai for TakTOM). You could imagine it like an upgraded form of an Exo-Suit. :D
↑Called it. ;) A shame that they can't use the name Hi-Q, but let's face it, considering that they haven't had any need to use it since 1988, it's an understandable loss. Not everyone can be long-term trademark troll-squatters like Harmony Gold. :p

I thought this was pretty cool till I realised he's a headmaster not a powermaster would of been a nice touch if they could of fitted hi-q into the grill in truck mode.

As for calling him Ginrai because he doesn't separate from the trailer wouldn't that make him God Ginrai?:D
Super Ginrai.

Cab robot only = Ginrai
Cab robot combined w/ trailer = Super Ginrai
Super Ginrai combined w/ Godbomber = God Ginrai

And the Hasbro equivalent would be...
Cab robot only = Optimus Prime
Cab robot combined w/ trailer = Super Optimus Prime
Super Optimus Prime combined w/ Apex Armour = Apex Armour Optimus Prime

[Keidatron]

Given they call him Powermaster (and yes I understand why), they should have actually made him a Powermaster :P

[Trent]

Given they call him Powermaster (and yes I understand why), they should have actually made him a Powermaster :P

I haven't looked, but is he ACTUALLY still called Powermaster Prime?

[Verno]

He could still be a Powermaster. The power just comes from the mind.

[BigTransformerTrev]

He could still be a Powermaster. The power just comes from the mind.

Oh great - he's going to be the fricken John Edward of Transformers :rolleyes:

[Chevron Action Flash]

Its 2015 and the articulation on the head robot doesnt look any better than the Headmasters of the 80s. Annoying. I love the original POWERMASTER OPTIMUS yet I need to see a review of this first before deciding on whether he's shelf-space worthy.

[Lord_Zed]

Sculpt looks great, but being based on CW Magnus means it will have the same shortcomings preventing it from being as good as it could have been.


Its 2015 and the articulation on the head robot doesnt look any better than the Headmasters of the 80s. Annoying. I love the original POWERMASTER OPTIMUS yet I need to see a review of this first before deciding on whether he's shelf-space worthy.

That's because articulation peaked around 2010 and is now in decline. As cool as this guys looks, he's got what 6 extra point of articulation over the original?

[GoktimusPrime]

Given they call him Powermaster (and yes I understand why), they should have actually made him a Powermaster :P

I haven't looked, but is he ACTUALLY still called Powermaster Prime?
Remember that the original G1 Powermaster Optimus Prime was originally meant to have a transformable head (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/f/f9/EarlyPMPrime3.jpg), but it was abandoned due to budgetary constraints. As you can see, Roller was meant to transform into a robot, then into the head for Super Optimus Prime. This never came to be, and in the end we just got a non-transformable solid head, however, Powermaster Optimus Prime's trailer can store the Super robot's head! This is actually a vestigial feature from the abandoned 'headmaster' gimmick. Go on... try it!

Pretty neat, huh? :D

So the 'headmaster' gimmick is actually a nod (heh) to Powermaster Optimus Prime's original head-gimmick concept. This is what Ono Koujin originally wanted for PM Prime/Super Ginrai, but was pipped at the post because the budget wouldn't allow for it. Hasbro's budget was even smaller than Takara's, hence why PM Prime is basically a cheaper version of the Ginrai toy. Godbomber (and thus God Ginrai) was originally meant to be a more complex toy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/7/7f/ProtoGodBomber.jpg) too, but again budgetary constraints meant that this prototype was never mass produced and the final product (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/44/Godbomber_toy.jpg) was just a shadow of what could have been.

[MayzaPrime]

Oh great - he's going to be the fricken John Edward of Transformers :rolleyes:

I don't think Optimus will every be nominated for 'The Biggest Douche in the Universe' award :p:D

[Lord_Zed]

While the Headmaster gimmick would have been cool on the original Powermaster Prime, I'm kinda glad he didn't end up with those Micky Mouse wheel ears.



Remember that the original

So the 'headmaster' gimmick is actually a nod (heh) to Powermaster Optimus Prime's original head-gimmick concept. This is what Ono Koujin originally wanted for PM Prime/Super Ginrai, but was pipped at the post because the budget wouldn't allow for it. Hasbro's budget was even smaller than Takara's, hence why PM Prime is basically a cheaper version of the Ginrai toy. Godbomber (and thus God Ginrai) was originally meant to be a more complex toy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/7/7f/ProtoGodBomber.jpg) too, but again budgetary constraints meant that this prototype was never mass produced and the final product (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/44/Godbomber_toy.jpg) was just a shadow of what could have been.

Ah budgetary constraints always keeping Hasbro from greatness.

[GoktimusPrime]

This is where I store my Powermaster Optimus Prime's head. As you can see, it's a really small space, and it'd be a far more snug fit if this head had wheels protruding from it and could fold out into a Roller buggy mode. I think that this space was designed to be just big enough to hold Roller, and not much else. It doesn't seem to be big enough to hold any of the carded 1988 Autobots (e.g. Throttlebots, Triggerbots etc.). The space doesn't do anything for the robot or base mode; it seems to serve no other purpose other than to hold Roller. And of course, it even has a ramp for Roller to roll up and down from.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/powermasterprime_headon_zpsdredxstl.jpg

[MayzaPrime]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/powermasterprime_headon_zpsdredxstl.jpg

I had no idea that the trailer had a ramp... I knew about the head storage, but not the ramp. :confused::p

[Deonasis]

It was a brilliant and ambitious concept but i am happy Roller-head was dropped from the final version as the manufacturing was not at a level to somewhat hide the wheels and make it look any good.

On the other hand a Roller that was also a good looking Optimus head AND could be driven around base mode by Ginrai would have been the bees knees.

[optimus1]

I've been away from the boards for a while.....
Wowowowowowowow!

Just love this Prime (even if just a headmaster)