WeiJiang's Oversized Evasion Prime

[FruitBuyer]

WeiJiang, the chinese company that recently released the Oversized MP-10 (MPP-10) have plans for a Oversized Evasion Prime. While I know there are rules here about knock-offs belonging to specific threads, the OS Evasion Prime has a lot of changes made to it that it is its own figure. griff, if you disagree then feel free to move this to the KO thread.

You can find more information about this bad boy on the tfw2005 thread (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime.html)

Here are some pictures of the figure in all of its glorious beauty:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27554621d1449069582-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-67301835gw1eylppc7lnhj20m80esn6g.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27554622d1449069582-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-67301835gw1eylppdnu5yj20m80esn8k.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27554624d1449069582-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-67301835gw1eylppihhc8j20m80eswoi.jpg

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27554625d1449069582-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-67301835gw1eylppei3cuj20es0m8qe0.jpg

And here is a picture of it with the OS MP-10. These guys are both bigger than RotF Prime
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/27554636d1449071892-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-12342418_10208037140155317_6183733254082089033_n.j pg

Personally I'm excited as heck for this guy. I absolutely love Evasion Prime (favourite Voyager Prime mold by far) and this guy improves on him in every way. Based off the feedback I've read for the OS MP-10, I have no doubt this guy will be equally as amazing.

[drifand]

The whole oversize thing is not practical . Mp-10 was scaled down due to mp-1 being big now making things back to this size just don't make sense unless you regard them as God pieces (beloved selected bots) otherwise it kind of throw scale off in every way.

Saying that this figure looks nice, I just don't have the space for it.

[FruitBuyer]

Maybe for you but the OS MP-10 sold like hot cakes. They're a bit taller than a CW Combiner so size isn't making these guys that impractical.

Scale isn't something everyone cares about.

[drifand]

[QUOTE=FruitBuyer;501165]Maybe for you but the OS MP-10 sold like hot cakes. They're a bit taller than a CW Combiner so size isn't making these guys that impractical.

it all depends on how much shelf space you have. They are sold out here because they didn't make that many.

Like I said, the figure is nice but I would skip unless this is something I love.

The over size mp-10 for example, is nice but there isn't enough metal or big improvement for me to justify "this is a masterpiece " for me .
It looks like just a up size version and that's it slam in a bit of metal.

[FruitBuyer]

How do you know they didn't make many?

[CBratron]

WeiJiang did the oversized AoE Hound with a significant amount of diecast. It scaled nicely with the smaller deluxe sized characters. I think this mold will also benefit from the upsize.

[MayzaPrime]

Are those wheels rubber?

[FruitBuyer]

Are those wheels rubber?

Not 100% sure however I believe so.

[llamatron]

Don't care at all for the movies but still would be tempted to get this (pending price). Looks slick.

[CBratron]

I think they wheels will be 'rubber'. Their KO Hound had soft wheels.

[FruitBuyer]

Don't care at all for the movies but still would be tempted to get this (pending price). Looks slick.

People were getting the OS MP-10 for less than $100 US and all reports from them indicate it's a much better product than either Takara or Hasbro's MP-10. I expect this would be a similar price.

[STL]

This looks surprisingly good tho I don't think I have a display spot for it

[FruitBuyer]

Final product images (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-103.html#post13264103)

If you are not excited for this then you are wrong.

[Deonasis]

The main sticking point people have is the size. It is MP-01 big and not movie leader big.

It looks good just too big.

[GoktimusPrime]

If you are not excited for this then you are wrong.
So I'm wrong for not getting excited over a filthy bootleg? So I'm wrong for choosing to abide by the board rules (and my personal moral/ethical standards) in choosing to not promote, advocate or show support for a knock off??

Thanks. :mad:

[UltimateGalvatron]

Looks nice but:

1) It's a KO. Not a supporter.

2) Too big.

3) Has nowhere in my collection

[Raider]

http://www.markdrechsler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Excited.jpeg

PS: I'm not really but couldn't help posting this pic :D

[prjkt]

This looks surprisingly good tho I don't think I have a display spot for it

Same here, looks great, it's just a little too big for the likes of my collection.

[drifand]

To be honest, I actually like it over official mp and that's because TT has been lazy and cutting corners and charging an ar and leg for unpainted plastic.

I am not a movie fan but I have to say this toy looks well done.

[UltraMarginal]

I think what interests me most about this company is their products may rip off a transformation and design but unlike every other KO I've ever seen, their product has a very polished form fit and finish.

the paint application, chrome application and extra articulation make it stand out as a pretty good quality product.

I probably won't get it for all the reasons stated above, mostly size and potentially cost but otherwise I think it looks very nice.

[drifand]

^ pretty much what a mp should be and not what it is currently at.

I am not a ko supporter too but the mp of the late have been very let down for me.

Maybe is just me but the current designer just over complicated things.

[CoRDS]

weijang needs to get a license asap

mad toys managed to get one for their not voltron (its now voltron)

MPP10 was with out a doubt the single best quality figure i got last year and i got a lot.
at this stage takara need to hire that factory to make their masterpiece figures. the one they are using is not as good.

[FruitBuyer]

So I'm wrong for not getting excited over a filthy bootleg? So I'm wrong for choosing to abide by the board rules (and my personal moral/ethical standards) in choosing to not promote, advocate or show support for a knock off??

Thanks. :mad:

Do you always trigger this easily?

[drifand]

weijang needs to get a license asap

mad toys managed to get one for their not voltron (its now voltron)

MPP10 was with out a doubt the single best quality figure i got last year and i got a lot.
at this stage takara need to hire that factory to make their masterpiece figures. the one they are using is not as good.

Is the designer though, the current one sucks for tracks mp.

[drifand]

Do you always trigger this easily?

It was probably how you worded it.

Remember this is a knock off and not a official products.

[Megatran]

Do you always trigger this easily?
I LOL. Real loud. Stitches even. :D:D:D

Cracks me up how KO's draw so much emotional reaction from some people. Euthanasia, death sentence, same sex relationship / marriage, religion ... all meh.

[ChlorHex]

Weijang fills the gap for some collectors by improving on some of the current legit molds.
I greatly appreciate the MP1 scale and was hugely disappointed when that scale was cut back and when diecast metal was minimized in the new Masterpieces... thus I don't collect them (aside from a Goldbug that I'm waiting on now).
The upsizing fills the gap and addresses what some collectors prefer, bigger bots with added diecast metal bits.
I'm not keen to debate the topic relating to the moral and ethical dilemmas relating to purchasing KOs... Neither am I supporter of KOs... I'm a toy collector and I'll buy what suits my desires.
Weijangs improvements and pricing suits what I desire in my bots :)

[FruitBuyer]

It was probably how you worded it.

Remember this is a knock off and not a official products.

I'm not going to apologise to anyone that can't tell my post was tongue-in-cheek.

[griffin]

So I'm wrong for not getting excited over a filthy bootleg? So I'm wrong for choosing to abide by the board rules (and my personal moral/ethical standards) in choosing to not promote, advocate or show support for a knock off??

Thanks. :mad:

Just be mindful that overreacting will just encourage people to support more KOs out of spite, and make it harder for the staff to discourage the resulting proliferation.

[drifand]

Weijang fills the gap for some collectors by improving on some of the current legit molds.
I greatly appreciate the MP1 scale and was hugely disappointed when that scale was cut back and when diecast metal was minimized in the new Masterpieces... thus I don't collect them (aside from a Goldbug that I'm waiting on now).
The upsizing fills the gap and addresses what some collectors prefer, bigger bots with added diecast metal bits.
I'm not keen to debate the topic relating to the moral and ethical dilemmas relating to purchasing KOs... Neither am I supporter of KOs... I'm a toy collector and I'll buy what suits my desires.
Weijangs improvements and pricing suits what I desire in my bots :)

That's make two of us. I think after I opened my tracks mp because someone told me it was cheap , I had to take a closer look and boy I was very disappointed. The current mp do not deserve a "masterpiece " rating

Someone who bothered to redo the mould and improved material and more mobility just shows where takara Tomy lacked. Skipping on paint apps is the last straw for me, I think I be selling my road rage once I get it.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

That thing is pretty amazing tbh.

[Deonasis]

Someone who bothered to redo the mould and improved material and more mobility just shows where takara Tomy lacked.Aww don't stick it to Tomy too much. I know this OSKO Evasion is fantastic for its price but remember include the freeride 3rd Party gets in your comparisons.

When 90% or more of the time to create it was spent by HasTak and WeiJang does not need to recoup those development costs you can see how WeiJang can afford to add all the rubber, diecast, paint, and mold additions AND come in at a low price. Thank HasTak for that.

[drifand]

Aww don't stick it to Tomy too much. I know this OSKO Evasion is fantastic for its price but remember include the freeride 3rd Party gets in your comparisons.

When 90% or more of the time to create it was spent by HasTak and WeiJang does not need to recoup those development costs you can see how WeiJang can afford to add all the rubber, diecast, paint, and mold additions AND come in at a low price. Thank HasTak for that.

My issue is there seems to be people who support an official low quality product.
Trust me that I lowered my expectations for MPs by a huge margin and the minimum they could do was get the QC right which they keep failing.

When I hold sideswipe and next to tracks it clearly shows poor paint job on tracks. Look at your binaltech tracks blue.

I also agree on the scale cut back it pissed off quite a few people hence the support is here. What some people would consider a MPs

1. Bigger scale
2. Painted not cut corners
3. Diecast
4. Rubber wheels which spells premium not cheap plastic.

I have avoided Ko tfs just for ethnic reason but frankly speaking it is wrong to keep supporting a bad product.

Crap takara should just sell tf masterpiece to bandai and let them make a proper premium product. My metal build is light years ahead in quality.

[Megatran]

^ You don't have to lower your expectation for MPs. If you feel that strongly then vote with your wallet. ;)

And there is no 'issue' with people buying TakaraTomy official product. You taking up issue with "people who support an officially lower quality product" is entirely your view. I don't share your view. :)

[drifand]

And why do I need to vote with my wallet when clearly we should expect a minimum standards with MPs? Is masterpiece supposed to be top of takara Tomy line or is this just some bullshit product just to cheat people's money?

Unless you clearly like the box then you obviously don't care about the toy.

My concern is people are indeed raving over a complete bad official product and is passing it off as a MPs standard. You do not need to agree. But I believe takara has dropped way below the line's standard. You may not have an issue, but it clearly shows people do not care about it. I put my hats off to the people who gave an honest review about tracks and road rage MPs and they were poor by standards. For either modes they were not enjoyable.

I want official product to stand above 3p not other way around.

This product here just shows, they can do it.

How low in quality are you willing to go?

[Deonasis]

This product here just shows, they can do it.

How low are you willing to go?

My point was that Takara can ofcourse make better painted and articulated figures but I'd expect their price to rise significantly as you added more icing to the cake. I see a price v quality trade-off and so does Takara obviously. Here, WeiJang have a premium figure selling for $130ish but they sell it without 90% of the figures development costs.

If we imagine that WeiJang created this premium Evasion OP from scratch from their own minds i would expect the cost to be $250-$300+. Too steep for many and maybe it would sell (and recoup) far less.

TLDR; Do not discount Takara's effort and market sensibility.

[Megatran]

And why do I need to vote with my wallet when clearly we should expect a minimum standards with MPs? Is masterpiece supposed to be top of takara Tomy line or is this just some bullshit product just to cheat people's money?

Unless you clearly like the box then you obviously don't care about the toy.

My concern is people are indeed raving over a complete bad official product and is passing it off as a MPs standard. You do not need to agree. But I believe takara has dropped way below the line's standard. You may not have an issue, but it clearly shows people do not care about it. I put my hats off to the people who gave an honest review about tracks and road rage MPs and they were poor by standards. For either modes they were not enjoyable.

I want official product to stand above 3p not other way around.

This product here just shows, they can do it.

How low in quality are you willing to go?
You keep posting the same old same old, over & over & over again across multiple threads. There's no need to spam the board. Your position is noted though clumsily executed.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

How low in quality are you willing to go?

Quit gettin' mad at toys

[drifand]

Quit gettin' mad at toys

Sure if you are paying for me, I just shut up.

I don't see why Ko should be the best toy out here? Do you?

[llamatron]

Already preordered one a while back, the finishing quality on it looks amazing. I think it's an interesting and curious piece, tweaking and improving a Hasbro release.

Unrelated, not sure why Mp tracks is getting heat, mine was great in terms of quality and the intrinsic design. No complaints here.

[drifand]

You keep posting the same old same old, over & over & over again across multiple threads. There's no need to spam the board. Your position is noted though clumsily executed.

So show me something new then oh wait, we are here on a Ko thread where things are better.

[drifand]

Already preordered one a while back, the finishing quality on it looks amazing. I think it's an interesting and curious piece, tweaking and improving a Hasbro release.

Unrelated, not sure why Mp tracks is getting heat, mine was great in terms of quality and the intrinsic design. No complaints here.

I am not sure how you look at it, with respect I judged it with all the other cars and I feel it is just over engineered at wrong areas. The wings blocked movement of his arms and the face just looks way too unpainted relying too much on white plastic.

I like to see pics of this toy though, it looks promising than a lot.

[Smint]

Quit gettin' mad at toys

Well we're not talking about $25 CW toys here. $100 is a fair bit of money for a toy it isn't fair getting ripped off because of TT/hasbro cutting corners.

MP's are premium products by name and by price and they should be held to a higher standard. While QC issue cant always be avoided it really shouldn't be excused. Things like poor paint apps and promotion exclusive weapons, (a pet peeve of mine) that should come standard like the datsun shoulder cannons is bullshit when you're paying $80-$100.

I personally dont see anything wrong with this KO. It's obviously not a direct KO being oversized and it looks like they've improved on it in certain ways. On second thought TT did do all the heavy lifting by designing and engineering it. This falls into a grey area for me depending on the improvements they've made.

[drifand]

What's the cheapest place to get this?
I am quite convinced to get one.

[Deonasis]

What's the cheapest place to get this?
I am quite convinced to get one.

TFW has a thread about it that lists reputable ebay sellers.

[griffin]

What's the cheapest place to get this?
I am quite convinced to get one.

Just be aware that discussion of KOs may be permitted here (like this topic), but sourcing KOs through this site is not.
If you really want a KO (which is your choice), you need to do your own google searches.

[drifand]

Just be aware that discussion of KOs may be permitted here (like this topic), but sourcing KOs through this site is not.
If you really want a KO (which is your choice), you need to do your own google searches.

Noted my apologies.

[AJ_Prime]

Sorry I'm a bit late to the party. Been looking at pics of this thing, damn it looks amazing! And so does the trailer!

With regards to people's strong feelings against KO's I note two things:
1. The KO market caters for a certain segment of the collector community, and
2. This is the "Unauthorised Transformers Products" section of the forum. Here you will find threads on third parties and KO's.

Expect some KO love here and there and don't make people feel bad for it. That goes both ways of course. Please let's all respect each other's individual tastes and preferences.

I'm not usually interested in KO's myself, but this figure has been significantly improved and upgraded and dammit I like it.

[leej84]

^this

[Trent]

And why do I need to vote with my wallet when clearly we should expect a minimum standards with MPs? Is masterpiece supposed to be top of takara Tomy line or is this just some bullshit product just to cheat people's money?



You're basically saying that you think the Masterpiece line has gone to crap, you've been dissappointed with the last half dozen or so releases, yet you keep buying them and will continue to buy them even though you expect shit??

That's not even insane. Insane is where you do something over and over and over again expecting a different result. You're not even expecting a different result! But your gonna hand over money blindly for what you know will be an inferior product. And you say we're the ones that need to wake up???????

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

[drifand]

You're basically saying that you think the Masterpiece line has gone to crap, you've been dissappointed with the last half dozen or so releases, yet you keep buying them and will continue to buy them even though you expect shit??

That's not even insane. Insane is where you do something over and over and over again expecting a different result. You're not even expecting a different result! But your gonna hand over money blindly for what you know will be an inferior product. And you say we're the ones that need to wake up???????

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

Hmm the only crap one is tracks and road rage, I did want a thundercracker, though it had a broken rudder tip , my money was to get that piece.

You are right, I think I had given enough thought and is insane to continue to support official product however I think I still buy one now and wait for people to open and give reviews and I decide from there whether I still want it or loose it.
There is no way you can wait too long and find the product not available when you want it. I did vote with my wallet, from initial pics of Tracks they look great, until prior to release I noticed things like a visible pin by the window in car mode? Surely there are better ways to do this?

And hang on a sec, nobody ask you to wake up, I am just shock that people are still thinking the MPs line are top notch. By all means this type of support will make takara think they are doing well in cutting corners are an acceptable practice. With all due respect, I believe QC should not be dropped on a highest line product, I rather get a torn box but perfect toy and not the other way around. We are paying more for the current MPs cars so I do have some expectations that it should be better than what's currently already made not go backwards in design and cut paint apps. I don't expect ironhide to be shit but now that I played tracks, I have second thoughts on ironhide and hot rod, don't even think about ramjet shockwave and ratchet for now. Not all MPs are bad, but some like tracks and road rage are sub par to the other cars , even to a red bee which I didn't buy has better brighter red. And here's the thing, I would gladly pay $150 per mp car if they were all properly painted and no issues with QC rather than pay cheap and get crap believing that a masterpiece is a masterpiece not a plastic action figure. This isn't ages 0-3 category.

I like to return to the thread, I think I pre order this. I think people know I don't float around 3p or unauthorized sections. I was considering the oversized mp-10 as from reviews its what a masterpiece should have been even if minus the size factor. Perhaps its easier for me to forgive a KO for not being polished over an official product. Will order one at under $150. I am not even a "movie transformers" fan, I just am amazed by the polished work and product this company has to offer.

I do realise btw I said I will "skip" this piece. but all the talk had just made me turned to the dark side and wanting to see how this piece is like.

[UltraMarginal]

I have avoided Ko tfs just for ethnic reason but frankly speaking it is wrong to keep supporting a bad product.


I'm just curious what are the ethnic reason.

[millhouse]

I'm just curious what are the ethnic reason.

LOL. Just LOL.

[drifand]

I'm just curious what are the ethnic reason.

Just hate auto correct on mobile. Ethics I meant.

[spiderken17]

I call RACIST!!!!:D

[drifand]

I was told this will be in the sellers hands before the Chinese New Year.

One down side is that his fingers did not have individual mp treatment.

[Lint]

That's not even insane. Insane is where you do something over and over and over again expecting a different result. You're not even expecting a different result! But your gonna hand over money blindly for what you know will be an inferior product. And you say we're the ones that need to wake up???????

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

Consider it like being a loyal supporter your favourite sports team. Your 'tribe' if you will. Even though they're poorly managed at the moment and haven't won a premiership in decades you'll stick by them and keep supporting them by attending their matches in hope that one day they'll come good. In the meantime all you're left with is cranky critique of the team's performance, rattle on about how you think they could do better and insist that if they just did everything you said to the ltter they could be the new champions! Carn TakaraTomy! :D

[FruitBuyer]

Well this thread escalated quickly.

More pictures of this bad-boy. He looks amazing with the OS MP-10. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-121.html#post13282234)

[drifand]

Well this thread escalated quickly.

More pictures of this bad-boy. He looks amazing with the OS MP-10. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-121.html#post13282234)

the truck mode smoke stack is short though, but for me is the robot mode that caught me. I hope the toy does live up to those shown in the pics. My first Movie tf toy.

I went on youtube and it appears the smoke stacks are retractable.
The riffle is a bit hollow but everything else looks great.

[drifand]

This is delayed I believe due to Chinese New Year.

[FruitBuyer]

Just received my Evasion Prime and heavens is he amazing. So big and imposing, quite possibly the best figure I own.

He has a paint job equal to the APS Ultimate Prime, amazing use of chrome and silver painting. The weapons he comes with are also really well done and work so well with him.

People that complain about the size are, quite frankly, being utterly absurd. Did you skip Titan Devastator because he was so much bigger than the rest of the combiners? Did you complain about MP-1 being "too big"? No because they are centerpiece figures just like this guy. This is more than 'just a KO', the amount of extra work that has gone into this guy and improvements would make you blush if you had this in real-life.

I look forward to other deco releases of him.

[DarkHyren]

Consider it like being a loyal supporter your favourite sports team. Your 'tribe' if you will. Even though they're poorly managed at the moment and haven't won a premiership in decades you'll stick by them and keep supporting them by attending their matches in hope that one day they'll come good. In the meantime all you're left with is cranky critique of the team's performance, rattle on about how you think they could do better and insist that if they just did everything you said to the ltter they could be the new champions! Carn TakaraTomy! :DI really like this analogy, it fits, it suits, it makes sense. Thumbs up to you my Linty friend :D

On the topic matter, I don't really care for Bayformers though I will admit it looks well made at least, but I don't support knock-offs.
Now if there are enough differences to indicate that it's a completely redesigned figure rather then just a reverse engineered oversize with a few extra bells and whistles I'd be more inclined to support it, as I support the third parties with their "inspired by but 100% originally designed by us" figures

[FruitBuyer]

I really like this analogy, it fits, it suits, it makes sense. Thumbs up to you my Linty friend :D

On the topic matter, I don't really care for Bayformers though I will admit it looks well made at least, but I don't support knock-offs.
Now if there are enough differences to indicate that it's a completely redesigned figure rather then just a reverse engineered oversize with a few extra bells and whistles I'd be more inclined to support it, as I support the third parties with their "inspired by but 100% originally designed by us" figures

They've put a ridiculous amount of additional molding details over the entire figure. Here's a picture someone took just from the leg: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-158.html#post13307728

Everyone over in tfw2005 that has this figure is arguing this as one of the best figures of 2015/2016.

This guy doesn't like Bayformers designs but calls this figure top 3 figures he owns (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-168.html#post13326477)

[llamatron]

My order must have been too far down the line, it's coming from the 2nd run due after Chinese New Year. No love for bayformers here, but this thing looks great.

[FruitBuyer]

My order must have been too far down the line, it's coming from the 2nd run due after Chinese New Year. No love for bayformers here, but this thing looks great.

Did you order yours from smartlulup as well?

[llamatron]

Yes, back when eBay had some percentage-off sale. They said it's delayed until ~20th of Feb or so.

Good to hear that it's impressive in person.

[Smint]

I am hate, hate, hate Bayformers but i might get this. First and perhaps last bayformer i'll ever own.

[FruitBuyer]

Yes, back when eBay had some percentage-off sale. They said it's delayed until ~20th of Feb or so.

Good to hear that it's impressive in person.

Depending on when you ordered it, you may get it soon. The tracking number I received on my slip was different from the one that I was given through eBay.

[drifand]

Well I hate bayformers but for me it has weight which people don't care about, paint apps which are amazing and some people give excuses that it doesn't stand out, and it looks impressive for its price.

I am sure I can find a place more worthy than my mp line collection

[Megatran]

Don't be too concerned about what others think. It's your opinion (& wallet) that counts. ;)

[drifand]

Don't be too concerned about what others think. It's your opinion (& wallet) that counts. ;)

It's hard when I like to be a loyal customer of Takara Tomy.
Voting with my wallet for a mp is really of not much impact on my wallet but I do question why make a line called masterpiece but go cheap on the product?

Sure many could just say "if you hate it why buy it?"

Because
1. Is their premium top of the line
2. I expect decent amount of effort in looking great
3. You believe there is proper QC as is an official product.

This is my first ko , well second as I bought ratbat. But my main reasons are because they are addressing the main issues that I have with the official product.

I have collected a lot of MPs and I display them, for me my binaltech/alternators
Stands out a lot more in my cabinet despite when I individually like each mp car except for tracks.

Throwing $100 on a mp is not difficult but expecting it to be top notch product is . I am kinda hoping takara Tomy does a entire complete line where is premium rather than half effort where they feel cutting corners in a quality line product is okay.

If the MPs were $150 a pop, I think voting with my wallet gets more attention.
As it is, it remains to be one of the cheapest toys around.

[llamatron]

Depending on when you ordered it, you may get it soon. The tracking number I received on my slip was different from the one that I was given through eBay.

Thanks for the heads up, I checked my original tracking number from eBay and it's actually in Melbourne at the moment! Should arrive during the week.:eek:

[FruitBuyer]

That's awesome to hear, I can't wait for you to get your hands on this bad boy.

[FruitBuyer]

harrismonkey's picture from tfw2005

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=27569517&d=1455502352

This guy actually scales better than RotF Prime with the HA figures.

[drifand]

Just gotten shipping notification, now to see if it really that hype as what people are actually saying. My standards for a toy are high.

[drifand]

It's in Melbourne now, hopefully not long.
The amount of pages written about this piece is huge 200+
Pages. I am a bit surprised there isn't as much interest here raving about it.

Funny I am more keen to see how this piece turns out than my hot rod or ironhide mp.

[FruitBuyer]

It's a combination of people thinking this as just a KO, it being a Bayformer and it being too big which puts most people off.

Truth is, this is easily one of the best Transformers ever created, both official and not and people are hamstringing themselves because of the above absurd reasons.

Can't wait for you to get this guy, I look forward to your thoughts!

[Smint]

Looking forward to your opinion on this too.

So far my experiences with KO's have been pretty good besides the crappy MP's i bought just for fun.

KO feral rex while very good have obvious signs that it's a ko. Plastic type, poor joints, poor hands, QC issues. But WeiJiang's KO is looking really good.

[FruitBuyer]

Calling it a KO isn't fair, other than it not being an official product, it's akin to calling a retool a KO as well.

Everything you see in the pictures? All the high-quality paint and extra detailing? It's not just those pictures that make it look that good, the figure really shines like that in hand. RotF Leader Prime's biggest problem is that despite all its detail and complexity, it's not the most poseable figure, especially in the legs. Not a problem with this guy, he is one of the most poseable figures you'll ever play with.

Another great thing is that he also has heft. He's not super heavy but he's not light, he feels right for his size and this is due to the various die-cast pieces such as his chest and crotch. It's really well done because it gives the perfect balance to pull off some really sweet poses.

The only reported issue is some people's hips breaking when receiving them however that isn't a fault of the figure but of the packaging, WeiJiang have fixed that with newer releases by putting something to support the legs. I bought two of this guy and both were in perfect condition.

Truth is, you will not find a Hasbro, Takara or other 3rd party figure that hits as many 10s as this guy does. As many people have said on tfw2005 "The official Evasion Prime looks like a KO next to him".

[drifand]

It's a combination of people thinking this as just a KO, it being a Bayformer and it being too big which puts most people off.

Truth is, this is easily one of the best Transformers ever created, both official and not and people are hamstringing themselves because of the above absurd reasons.

Can't wait for you to get this guy, I look forward to your thoughts!

I am both a person who is not keen on a Ko or a fan of bayformers , so this purchase says a lot about the pictures I have seen and convinced me to get one.
You will get an honest opinion as I always do. I don't suck up because this is a tf forum or "masterpiece Wow" factor when there is nothing to wow about.

From my perspective , the mpp10 didn't win me over for a few reasons.
1. I have mp-1 and mp-4 and as much it looked great it was not super wow.
2. There was not enough detailing on the grey thighs areas and that looks a bit plain
3. Would have prefer the translucent yellow pieces to be solid yellow.

Overall is a good piece but is one I didn't felt needed and decided to leave it out.

This piece is different, I like the fact that the g1 truck is kept but transforms to the movie prime that I know and the colours are pretty spot on.

I am leaving my vent in TT poor attempts in making a good tf toy. As I want to focus on this toy.

[Deonasis]

Takara can retool all they want as they designed the figure. A KO comes from someone elses design. Whether they paint it different, shrink or enlarge it, retool it, or change its materials does not matter.. it is a KO.

I agree that "KO" has negative conotations and it seems unfair considering how much effort WeiJang has gone to, but that is what this has always been classified as. 100% credit should not go to WeiJang because of improvements and the "KO" moniker symbolizes this.

I think a new type of KO will emerge if companies produce more figures like this. Maybe they will be known as KO+, KOMP or KOv2 to symbolise a drastically improved figure. I hope this is a new accepted classification and not just a series some company sets out to create.

[drifand]

While 100% credit should not go to Weijiang. I say 100% that TT is responsible for not doing it right. And to me is very shameful that someone took your toy and made more money when you can have everything that wowed people into buying.

The closest thing I ever wanted to buy was the dual model kit from bayformers line.

A lot of could have, should have but no action just disappoints me, and Weijiang is just showing the "what you should have done" result.

I came so close to buying a Ko mp-10 at one time because TT didn't even bother to reissue after 4 years. Those Ko should have not come to that but they let it happen and now same for seekers.

[UltraMarginal]

Takara and Hasbro didn't do it wrong, they designed an excellent toy for a mass release retail price point. Even the cheapest places you can source this WeiJiang KO cost more than double the price of the official release. the average eBay price for this figure is nearly 4 times the price of the official product. (in Australia, which is nearly twice the price of the same item in America)

If Takara and Hasbro thought the market would support a figure with that level of paint and finish, they may have made it.

WJ have taken the design, and worked with it. they get credit for making something nicer than the retail product perhaps, but to slam the original designer/manufacturer for designing to meet restrictive price/part count/paint restraints to make a profit in a global mass retail market is unreasonable and short sighted.

I am considering getting this, it does look that good, but the original toy was a brilliant design.

[FruitBuyer]

Definitely, Evasion Prime is one of the best voyagers in recent memory. Heck I rate it as one of the best Voyagers ever.

Please don't take this thread as an excuse to bash Hasbro/Takara, drifand. They've done what they've done for a reason. Let's just move on from that.

[drifand]

Takara and Hasbro didn't do it wrong, they designed an excellent toy for a mass release retail price point. Even the cheapest places you can source this WeiJiang KO cost more than double the price of the official release. the average eBay price for this figure is nearly 4 times the price of the official product. (in Australia, which is nearly twice the price of the same item in America)

If Takara and Hasbro thought the market would support a figure with that level of paint and finish, they may have made it.

WJ have taken the design, and worked with it. they get credit for making something nicer than the retail product perhaps, but to slam the original designer/manufacturer for designing to meet restrictive price/part count/paint restraints to make a profit in a global mass retail market is unreasonable and short sighted.

I am considering getting this, it does look that good, but the original toy was a brilliant design.

Here's the thing, you already fork up the cash for it, is a sunken cost. While you made it affordable for the mass market, it isn't enough to get the real spenders to spend. Perhaps they are afraid that they will loose money spending on quality but I am pretty confident many here are willing to spend for quality not compromise materials and paint cuts.

Slam? Not really, disappointed it is. Like said TT has no excuse but to blame themselves for the rise of Kos . Sure TT made it to the global market but how many people are indeed very interested? I made 0 attempt in all bayformers toys because if the masterpiece line is just average then what chance does a cheaper line has?

Who has actually saw the oversized bumblebee in the lemon yellow colours?
Again, TT have every chance to make a yellow bee with back pack but nope. Can't be stuffed I say for TT .

I don't want a cheap affordable crapy toy for the collectors line. I want proper quality made toys which I can proudly display, play and pay for at realistic prices. I can't tell you the number of toy collectors that refused to buy a mp because "it looks cheap" that I have met from time to time.

i am not going to rave about this product either until I played with it.

Again people seem to think I have some heavy bad thing to say about TT. FYI I actually don't care about hasbro.

Here's the thing, if they are doing things right, I will NOTbe interested in this product. Not a damn chance!

I review the toy as it is. If you choose to use poor materials, you will get marked down, you choose not to paint, you get marked down.

I am tired of waiting for TT to wow me.

[llamatron]

It's a cool toy, nice premium feel, but certainly not beyond what TT consistently puts out of the MP line like people online have been claiming.

Still a really nice piece, interesting transformation (disclaimer: I never touched the original evasion toy it's based on).

http://s18.postimg.org/cdiixzihl/Evasion_Prime_YEAH.jpg

[drifand]

That pic alone just feels like is beyond TT current mp line though.
Mines is in Perth now, anytime tomorrow I think it will arrive.

[FruitBuyer]

It's a cool toy, nice premium feel, but certainly not beyond what TT consistently puts out of the MP line like people online have been claiming.

Still a really nice piece, interesting transformation (disclaimer: I never touched the original evasion toy it's based on).

http://s18.postimg.org/cdiixzihl/Evasion_Prime_YEAH.jpg

Nice to see that you've received him. The transformation is very similar to the original toy with some extra bits and pieces.

[The_Damned]

is this a listing for it?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-oversized-metal-part-OS-evasion-Optimus-Prime-figure-in-Stock-New-/262312502100?hash=item3d130b2354:g:bNAAAOSwDuJW0~9-

is there anywhere to get it cheaper?

[drifand]

is this a listing for it?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transformers-oversized-metal-part-OS-evasion-Optimus-Prime-figure-in-Stock-New-/262312502100?hash=item3d130b2354:g:bNAAAOSwDuJW0~9-

is there anywhere to get it cheaper?

Nope, hang on Pmed .

[drifand]

No chance to open yet but

1. The weight is noticeable

I am going to say TT has not brought any mp toy to the weight ratio aspect from the mp line since mp 1 and 4.

Hopefully I open it tomorrow

[drifand]

And opened.

First impressions

A lot of care is put into this product.
The paint app is above TT mp line (sorry no offence to offical product)
Colours pop
Detail paint on face was carefully done though here is where I think it can be improved. Because is a Ko by enlargement the seriousness of the face declined slightly, but still overall great attempt, comparing to plain tracks unpainted head, this just gets a tick above it but not super wow which it can be.

Rubber Tyers lost art in TT line as people have the mentality that plastic is better or last forever. It brings the premium feel to the toy.

Weight distribution, while yes there is considerable amount of weight, I wished the legs had some metal in this case.

Hands, nothing to shout about as it didn't have individual fingers movement for such size, a bit let down here as this is on par with TT.

Elbow movement , bends more than typical 90 degrees which is a big tick.

I will comment more as I am yet to transform it.

However for its price at $140 and below delivered . It's not an over priced toy where some people have hit. If so, your mp is actually worth $10 in comparison for a car. Hate to say it, but this toy wowed me more than my mp-10.
Sure there are a lot more room for improvement but this passes a lot where mp line just made it

Overall rating without transforming so far, 7.5 to 8 out of 10.
If this was a TT licensed product at $200.00 I would still buy it.
Though this is not my best figure, but it is probably one of the 2016 honourable mentions. If I were TT, I would make a deal with Weijiang for future premium movie toys or oversized MPs but of course we know that's not happening.

i don't need an autobot logo just to say who is this, the toy speaks for itself. I am sure the group of fans who missed binaltech standards will definately be happier with this piece as is what TT has lacked. The quality is good worthy.

This may be my one and only bayformers toy I will ever have.

[Smint]

Sounds good! All things considered it seems like a must buy.

Hands always tend to be simplified with KO's. They must be a pain to produce and assemble.

[drifand]

Sounds good! All things considered it seems like a must buy.

Hands always tend to be simplified with KO's. They must be a pain to produce and assemble.

Please take note, I need to transform him to have a better review but if you like robot mode. He is truely rewarding.

[drifand]

Update

Truck mode.
A bit tricky in folding arms in. Basically you need to rotate the arm to where the Windows will align.

Is still impress without the trailer but it gets criticism for the centre window piece.
For me, a 6-7 out of 10 as it lacks a few bells and whistles in truck mode.

Recommendations?
Well if you don't care about movie Optimus and don't like it regardless. By all means skip this.
Those who know me, I hate bayformers movies. I never bought anything related to them. However I always wanted a well made movie prime and nobody brought a proper one to the table.

If you were one of those who enjoyed mp-1 and remembered how exciting it was opening it. This had the same effect for me. I am impressed by how well articulated he is and how well painted.

I played this toy more than my Magnus which I also liked.
I won't say more as people can read from the beginning of this thread I turned this down. All I can say is I am glad I bought it.

[MechaPrime]

There is a limited edition battle damaged version M01-d coming in June/July.
The black marks on the heat sections of the weapons does not look right. Hopfully they get rid of that for the production release.

Source: http://www.elljay-hobby-collection.com/2016/05/13/battle-damaged-optimus-prime-evasion-mode-weijiang-m01-d/

https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=910x1280:format=jpg/path/s7a1b7cd66cbf9142/image/i77d085d8453a2261/version/1463154601/image.jpg

[Polursine]

Battle damage is nice IMO, but they needed to do a rusted version. Like full-on rusted for screen accuracy. This one is nice, but if you're after a Leader class Evasion OP, these colours are too bright for you.

[DrLockdown]

Battle damage is nice IMO, but they needed to do a rusted version. Like full-on rusted for screen accuracy. This one is nice, but if you're after a Leader class Evasion OP, these colours are too bright for you.
They did...and it was a limited 1000-piece exclusive that sold out immediately.

I skipped it because it ended up being $240AUD.

[FruitBuyer]

Nemesis OS Evasion Prime (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-oversized-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-332.html#post13624121)

Same colours as the official Nemesis Evasion Prime. He'll look good with my MP-10B.

[DrLockdown]

Nemesis OS Evasion Prime (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1037840-oversized-ko-aoe-evasion-optimus-prime-332.html#post13624121)

Same colours as the official Nemesis Evasion Prime. He'll look good with my MP-10B.
I saw on TFW. If he's at a decent price, I'll consider it. Not too sure but maybe.

[drifand]

they are just throwing in different colours now....

The rusty one make sense so is the battle damage. Namesis? ur nah.....that didn't happen.

This is still my highest quality tf toy I gotten this year.

[FruitBuyer]

Throwing in different colours? You do realise that it's status quo for Optimus Prime to receive a Nemesis version? Especially since the official Evasion Prime had an Nemesis version, in fact it's right behind Classics Prime for most redecos.

[drifand]

Throwing in different colours? You do realise that it's status quo for Optimus Prime to receive a Nemesis version? Especially since the official Evasion Prime had an Nemesis version, in fact it's right behind Classics Prime for most redecos.

Whatever makes you happy mate, I am not throwing money for a nemesis version.

[Sunsurge]

I've just seen on TFW2005 that Wei Jiang are doing an OS TLK voyager Megatron to go along with M-01 Evasion Prime. Pre-orders are up on TF-Direct.

It's so funny watching some people make snide/derogatory remarks about "dirty bootlegs" etc. But hey, if you're happy paying top dollar for an inferior quality (official) product, then go for it.

But for me personally I like value for money. And having both MPP10 & OS MP-11 on display, there is no doubt that Wei Jiang and Robot Heroes have that in spades.

Keep the greedy corporations honest...

[SharkyMcShark]

I bought the Nemesis coloured variant at Nexus for $85 new this weekend just gone.

Dollar for dollar I think it has to be the nicest Transformer I own. Diecast, rubber tyres, complex but accessible engineering, plenty of accessories and great paint.

For cheaper than the standard RRP or a Leader Class figure in 2017, colour me extremely impressed.

[DrLockdown]

I bought the Nemesis coloured variant at Nexus for $85 new this weekend just gone.

Dollar for dollar I think it has to be the nicest Transformer I own. Diecast, rubber tyres, complex but accessible engineering, plenty of accessories and great paint.

For cheaper than the standard RRP or a Leader Class figure in 2017, colour me extremely impressed.

Christ! What a bargain!