Transformers Club Magazine Cover... Universe Smokescreen

[Firecracker]

Look...
http://www.transformersclub.com/_images/23_cover.jpg

Sure is purdy.

[Soundwarp]

That paint scheme looks sweet!

[swoop]

I'm really looking forward to next years 25th anniversary, they've got some great figures coming out. I'm glad they did'nt save smokescreen for next years botcon set like they did with the seekers. Smokescreen looks great as does cosmos, next year wont come soon enough:)

[reillyd]

The club forum has a much larger picture, in robot mode, and Smokescreen looks very sweet. Can't post it here (that would be naughty) but it is much more impressive when you see his face.

[Bartrim]

Oh man Smokescreen looks sweet. I'm hanging for that.

[STL]

Yay! :D :D :D

[i_amtrunks]

I Hope Smokescreen gets better paint apps than Prowl did.

Cosmos looks awesome, and Legends is the right size class for him.

RID Robot Heroes look interesting!

[GoktimusPrime]

I also hope he has a retooled head featuring the "cowl" which would make him more showlike and also looking different from Prowl/Bluestreak. I like how Binaltech intentionally gave Smokescreen that cowl and made his head look different from Prowl and Bluestreak. But I don't mind if they didn't (after all the G1 toys all had the same head moulds anyway :p).

[Saintly]

erm.. what'a cowl? :o

[Pulse]

I wish I could reach through this monitor & take it... :D

[GoktimusPrime]

erm.. what'a cowl?
Cowl (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cowl) :)

As the original G1 Smokescreen toy's head was identical to that of Prowl and Bluestreak (aside from colour).
http://homepage3.nifty.com/redalert/toybox/tf/g1/g1c14/IMG_4760a1.jpg

Marvel/Sunbow modifed the heads of Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen to help make them look different from each other.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/7/70/G1_Prowl_Bluestreak_Rollforit.jpg/180px-G1_Prowl_Bluestreak_Rollforit.jpg (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/7/70/G1_Prowl_Bluestreak_Rollforit.jpg)
Prowl has the most toy-accurate head out of the Fairlady Autobots. You can see that they altered Bluestreak's helmet has a different crest and is missing the side lobes ("ears"). Bluestreak also has a more pronounced chin.

Now here's Smokescreen's comic/show model:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/b/bb/Smokescreen.jpg/200px-Smokescreen.jpg (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/b/bb/Smokescreen.jpg)
You can see that his helmet is shaped like a hooded cowl which does distinguish him further from Prowl & Bluestreak.

Binaltech Smokescreen's head features the cowl.
http://www.sirmiles.com/tf_next/images/bt01_02.jpg

The head was retooled for Binaltech Bluestreak with the cowl removed.
http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/img/transformers-toys/alternators/bt-streak/preview.jpg

BT Red Alert's head is a straight repaint of Bluestreak's (no retooling)
http://www.sirmiles.com/tf/images/bta01_01.jpg

And yeah, the artists/animators also made differences throughout the bodies, but I'm just comparing heads here. You get the idea. :)

[Paulbot]

There's some paint apps around the face, but no retooling.

[lcz128]

Won't be hard to custom that though :D

[Saintly]

thanks Gok... I figured that is what a cowl is but just wasn't sure :/ however thanks for the re-confirmation.

cowl = horn-like thing :D at the head

[kup]

rumor is going around that the Club Magazine has pictures of a new Universe BW Dinobot...I hope its not a stuff up like the Cheetor one.

[MV75]

Heh, you know it will be Kup. :D

Cosmos looks so damn awesome. It even looks like the yellow arms should flip out.

As for the big mighty mugg, why? Man, those are the biggest heap of http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l186/mv75/Icons/shit.gif

[liegeprime]

So it means Smokescreen wont be a CLub Exclusive figure will it? It's going to be mass retail one? Hasbro's not going to pull a seeker episode on us again will they?:mad::mad:

[Paulbot]

So it means Smokescreen wont be a CLub Exclusive figure will it? It's going to be mass retail one? Hasbro's not going to pull a seeker episode on us again will they?:mad::mad:

That's right, Smokescreen will be released to retail next year.

[FFN]

rumor is going around that the Club Magazine has pictures of a new Universe BW Dinobot...I hope its not a stuff up like the Cheetor one. Apparently his robot mode is alot more like the cartoon's CGI design, but to get this he transforms differently to the original toy.

[The_Damned]

....who cares bout smokesrceen :eek: im more excited bout the cosmos:cool:

[Bartrim]

....who cares bout smokesrceen :eek: im more excited bout the cosmos:cool:

How dare you?!?!?!?


For that blasphemus comment you now owe me all your TF's that I don't own:p

[GoktimusPrime]

Sounds fair to me! :)

[Pulse]

I bags Fort Max... ;)

[Saintly]

shouldn't be too long til we get our club mag.. the US fans have theirs already! :/

[MV75]

....who cares bout smokesrceen :eek: im more excited bout the cosmos:cool:

Fully agreed. Cosmos is the only thing to get excited about in that picture.

Smokescreen will only interest me if they do the alternity gtr in his scheme.

[kup]

I assume that you guys are refering to the Legends Comos right?

It would be awesome if he was made a deluxe.

[dirge]

While the original Cheetor toy was a solid toy, Dinobot always had some issues - making him a much better candidate for this sort of thing. Granted, the reissues from both Hasbro & Takara got rid of that weird transparent peach plastic, but the ribcage and that random post were still here. I'm looking forward to an updated Dinobot (:

[SilverDragon]

According to Talkie Toaster (http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=99621) on the Tformer forums, the Transformers Collectors Club has revealed that the upcoming Smokescreen toy (a redeco of Prowl) will be in the second wave of the 25th anniversary line of Universe toys, along with Armada Hot Shot and Beast Wars Dinobot (:eek:).

I don't care about the other two, but I really really really really really really really (x1000) want Dinobot. :)

[The_Damned]

I assume that you guys are refering to the Legends Comos right?

It would be awesome if he was made a deluxe.
i am happy with any sort update.

[Paulbot]

According to Talkie Toaster (http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=99621) on the Tformer forums, the Transformers Collectors Club has revealed that the upcoming Smokescreen toy (a redeco of Prowl) will be in the second wave of the 25th anniversary line of Universe toys, along with Armada Hot Shot and Beast Wars Dinobot (:eek:).

I don't care about the other two, but I really really really really really really really (x1000) want Dinobot. :)

SilverDragon, I've merged your thread into here, were everyone's already talking about this rumoured Dinobot.

[SilverDragon]

SilverDragon, I've merged your thread into here, were everyone's already talking about this rumoured Dinobot.

Thanks. I should have looked further...:p

[i_amtrunks]

I have not heard many good things about this upcoming Dinobot figure, apparently he is as screwed up for no reason as the anniversary Cheetor figure...

[SilverDragon]

I have not heard many good things about this upcoming Dinobot figure, apparently he is as screwed up for no reason as the anniversary Cheetor figure...

Yes. He is.

Although he is apparently incredibly mistransformed, so the figure may look better when properly transformed.

I'll get him anyway, though I'll probably try to get the original figure (or at least a reissue, like the 10th anniversary one) so I can compare the two. Also, because original>new mold.

[GoktimusPrime]

That Dinobot doesn't look too bad actually... but yeah, might look a lot better when transformed properly.

If you're gonna get a Dinobot reissue I would recommend the Telemocha reissue. I personally thinks it looks better, but here's pics of both so you can decide for yourself:

10th Anniversary Dinobot (Hasbro reissue)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/55/BW10Dinobot_toy.jpg/300px-BW10Dinobot_toy.jpg

Telemocha Dinobot (Takara reissue)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/3/32/Japanese10thDinobot.jpg/250px-Japanese10thDinobot.jpg

Both come with a free DVD and the Hasbro one comes with a Transmutate part.

[MV75]

Can't see it. Photobucket dude. Don't make me say it every time you post a link. :D

[GoktimusPrime]

Hasbro reissue images (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/Beast-Wars/10th-Anniversary/Dinobot+-+10th+Anniversary+Reissue/)

Takara reissue images (http://homepage3.nifty.com/redalert/toybox/tf/bw1/bw1c04/bw1c04.html)

[MV75]

Oh no, I must apologise to you Goktimus, I meant Silver dragon. :)

For some reason, 4chan thinks my ip is banned.

[SilverDragon]

Can't see it. Photobucket dude. Don't make me say it every time you post a link. :D

Beholdeth.

[MV75]

Ok thanks. :)

I can't believe how bad both of the versions (old/new) are. :D

What's up with the chests?

The ones Gok linked look like they were gutted and their guts is just hanging out.

The new one, I dunno what that is supposed to be. Some sort of tumor? :D

I think the best dino beast is cybertron megatron.

[Paulbot]

Picture removed. Those pictures aren't supposed in be in general release yet. Let other sites host them if they want but don't post them here.

The pictures are exclusive to club members, and most of the Australian members of the club haven't even got their copies of the magazine yet.

[MV75]

Oh crud. Sorry about that Paul, I didn't realise it was a magazine only picture, otherwise I wouldn't have requested it being re-hosted.

[Golden Phoenix]

Dinobot is not too bad. Colour scheme needs working on, but otherwise pretty good.
Also links to other picks in that link to 4chan. Hot Shot, Wheelie, Warpath and Rodimus are all there

[MV75]

Yea, the paint apps on the originals that Goktimus linked are, to me, the far better ones. And for robot mode, clear winner is the ones Goktimus linked. :) So the majority of factors make the original the best. :)

Both beast modes are lame though. :D

[Pulse]

I'm sorry but IMHO, The reissue's are 1000% cooler than this upcoming poor-excuse for Dinobot... :rolleyes:

[Paulbot]

The link is removed too for now (at least until one of the big sites breaks the embargo).

[STL]

:( bah! I missed out. :( Though I'd wanted to have seen a Rhinox much much more! :D

[Zippo]

Smokecreen does look great from the shot I have seen. Pitty I missed the picture of the new beastie - even though imn a club member I don't get magazines until 6-8 months after they are released.

[Paulbot]

The latest BBTS newsletter confirms that the fifth wave of Universe legends includes:
Autobot Cosmos, Rodimus, Autobot Wheelie and Warpath.

No pictures yet (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS16274&mode=retail)

[Gutsman Heavy]

they look alright, except Wheelie.

[jaydisc]

I disagree. Wheelie looks great! Warpath was a bit lame.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Warpaths altmode is horrible, but nice bot mode.

[kup]

Damn! I missed them too.

Why is Warpath horrible? Is he still a tank and does his robot mode have the chest canon?

Edit: I got to see them on another board.

I don't mind Warpath (he looks cybertronian mode) and Wheelie looks unusual but alright. Legends Hot Rod looks decent.

Dinobot...That's a hard one. He is passable (unlike Cheetor) and I will get him but some bits are off putting such as the purple instead of blue face as well as the leg and beast arms kibble but that could be mistransformed. Its certainly aiming to be more cartoon accurate but I am unsure if he succeeds, I still like the original mold better particularly in the Telemocha or 10th anniversary release colors. I am not sure what to make of this new mold but it doesn't really feel like an improvement of the original. I hope that is not the trend with Universe Beast Wars since Cheetor looks pretty weird too.

Hotshot - Couldn't care less but he seems to be an improvement of his original mold.

Smokescreen: Fantastic!

[iceburn]

Warpaths altmode is horrible, but nice bot mode.

STL would say it looks like another Armada Megatron in the making for the alt mode. jay and i discussed it's probably mistransformed last night too

[Paulbot]

STL would say it looks like another Armada Megatron in the making for the alt mode. jay and i discussed it's probably mistransformed last night too

Have you got your copy of the Club newsletter yet? I'm still waiting.

And kind of annoyed by people seeing the leaked images before the paying club members can....

[King Atlas]

Oh I really want to see these pics (especially dinobot). Sooo, is there some kind of rule(s) against posting these images?

[iceburn]

Have you got your copy of the Club newsletter yet? I'm still waiting.

And kind of annoyed by people seeing the leaked images before the paying club members can....

Nope...i have not but i emailed Angie today about not getting last month's copy as well. she said that this month's one has all been mailed out though.

[Paulbot]

Oh I really want to see these pics (especially dinobot). Sooo, is there some kind of rule(s) against posting these images?

Yes, they aren't officially released, only to club members as an exclusive preview. Give it another week or so and I reckon they will be published on Seibertron or TFW2005.