JP Legends Headmasters from Titans Return

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Takara's take (via TFW user Aniline (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1061722-transformers-legends-hardhead-skull.html)):

http://i.imgur.com/drzx2La.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/CF05PQc.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ejf6AAC.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4FI4HZt.jpg

Head comparison via TF Prototype (https://www.facebook.com/TFPrototype/photos/a.720040001364157.1073741828.718540678180756/1096381837063303/?type=3&theater) (click on image to enlarge in new window/tab, then again for supersize):

http://s7.postimg.org/jz1g1ko1j/12711219_1096428393725314_2962171324520576400_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/jz1g1ko1j/)

[TAAUBlaster]

Much prefer Hardhead with the mouth than the faceplate. I was going to get the Hasbro versions because the packaging looks nice. But if TT is going to weave their magic, I might have to rethink :p

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Yeah, I was going to go Hasbro, just because of cost and availability, then Takara goes and does this...

http://i.imgur.com/IOarzRK.jpg

[prjkt]

Takara's SKullcruncher looks like Trailbreaker's forcefield face, so I'll go Hasbro for this one.

Hardhead on the other hand....

(I wonder if they'll sell the heads separately)

[DELTAprime]

Mods, the TT version should probably have it's own thread, can we have these post broken out? Please...

Anyway, considering that the TT version of Hardhead is A: more G1 accurate, B: More Headmasters accurate, C: More IDW accurate, I'll go with TT. Now to go take a look at Skullcrusher's TFwiki.

[ampoldj]

im speechless...because ive sworn to keep myself on the the MP line but then still took UWs and been starting with Legends then this...more Legends to come bring it on TT :D

[Deonasis]

Skull has a Dat ass! meme face. Annnd i love both of these!

[Paulbot]

Skullcruncher's face looks appropriate for his current role in #MTMTE and web comics.

[Raider]

I am hoping that Takara do a headmaster head only pack. That would be ideal. I would buy like 3 of them! :p

[GoktimusPrime]

Hasbro's Hardhead head is more G1 toy accurate (and remember that the toys came first), whereas TakaraTOMY's is more media-accurate. So both are G1 accurate, it just depends on which G1 source you're looking at. Both Generations and Legends Brainstorm feature G1 toy and US cartoon accurate heads (inspired by IDW) rather than being G1 anime-accurate (http://www.therobotspajamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/23Headmasters05.jpg).

I don't get Hasbro's Skullcruncher head though. :confused:

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TFW's Knoted did a head comparison (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1061722-transformers-legends-hardhead-skull-7.html#post13377650) of the toys and 'toons:

http://i.imgur.com/RmUE9b6.jpg

[Jetfire in the sky]

Man, I'm glad I have so much discipline with my collecting now, if I were 2004 me I would be totally broke and living in a tent from buying all the great stuff coming out now.

[Raider]

Great comparison. Hasbro seem to be going toy accuracy where Takara is going Headmaster series accurate.

[Zommael]

Great comparison. Hasbro seem to be going toy accuracy where Takara is going Headmaster series accurate.

Hasbro always go for toy accurate over show accurate. They have done for years.

[Lord_Zed]

It makes sense for TakTomy to change the Headmaster heads to match the Headmasters cartoon that was shown in Japan. I expect we will see a new head for Chromedome and Brainstorm in the future.

This makes it a hard choice for me, I tend to favour Taktom versions as they don't skimp out on the paint job, and actually paint hubcaps and other details for a less cheap look, however when it comes to characters like Chromedome and Brainstorm, I'd kinda like IDW or US toon heads, I just hope the Chromedome that Hasbro showed at toy fair is still a testshot, because they didn't even bother painting Stylors head.


I am hoping that Takara do a headmaster head only pack. That would be ideal. I would buy like 3 of them! :p

I doubt they will, but maybe Hasbro will release the heads as Titan masters with a silly vehicle repaint, that sounds like Hasbro, they get more money that way.

If they do then maybe the reverse will be true and we'll get proper deluxes for the other Titan masters. Chromedome look like he could be retooled into Nightbeat or Siren with ease.

[DELTAprime]

Hasbro's Hardhead head is more G1 toy accurate (and remember that the toys came first), whereas TakaraTOMY's is more media-accurate. So both are G1 accurate, it just depends on which G1 source you're looking at. Both Generations and Legends Brainstorm feature G1 toy and US cartoon accurate heads (inspired by IDW) rather than being G1 anime-accurate (http://www.therobotspajamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/23Headmasters05.jpg).

I don't get Hasbro's Skullcruncher head though. :confused:

I consider the media to be what counts as "G1-accurate". The toys often have very little in common with the cartoons I grew up with. See G1 Ironhide.:p

[reillyd]

It makes sense for TakTomy to change the Headmaster heads to match the Headmasters cartoon that was shown in Japan. I expect we will see a new head for Chromedome and Brainstorm in the future.

This makes it a hard choice for me.

Why put yourself through all that stress and angst. As the girl in the taco/burrito ad says, Why not get both :)

[GoktimusPrime]

I consider the media to be what counts as "G1-accurate". The toys often have very little in common with the cartoons I grew up with. See G1 Ironhide.:p
But that's because the toys came first. It's unfair to expect the G1 Ironhide toy to look like the cartoon when this toy was created and released before the Transformers franchise even existed (re: Diaclone). I understand that a lot of people have a fond attachment to the cartoon, and that's fine... but I don't think it's fair to criticise the G1 toys for not looking like something that didn't exist when they were created.

[FruitBuyer]

Hasbro always go for toy accurate over show accurate. They have done for years.

This always perplexes me when people remark on that. Hasbro have clearly always gone that way while Takara go the other way, it's only logical because otherwise they'd step on each others toes to much.

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Hi-res scan of Figure King magazine from the The All Spark (http://www.allspark.com/2016/02/hi-res-figure-king-217-transformers-scans-legends-hardhead-skullcruncher-kabaya-block-wars/):

http://i.imgur.com/DHCqC5r.jpg

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Pics from TFSource of LG21 Hardhead (http://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg21-hardhead/), LG22 Skullcruncher (http://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg22-skullcruncher/) and LG23 Galvatron (http://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg23-galvatron/):

http://s21.postimg.org/bl8i6u3tj/reduced_galery_image_11543_19039.jpghttp://s21.postimg.org/fvn62f8wn/reduced_image_11543_106.jpg

http://s18.postimg.org/5n38opbnd/reduced_galery_image_11544_19041.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/juxir3dq1/reduced_image_11544_106.jpg

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[DarkHyren]

Pics from TFSource ~snip~Damn but these are looking good, can't wait to see Skullcruncher and Galvatron in full colour

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Wish those do not copy things didn't obscure most of the damn picture.

What i find interesting though is the little weapon\vehicle guys but no extra head. I'm guessing they will bust our head booster packs! YAY

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Anyone see Hardhead being an Impactor repaint/remold?

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Doesn't the little bird-dinosaur thing they're including with Skullcruncher need the headmaster for the dinosaur mode?

It's a nice idea, but maybe they would have been better off releasing the vehicle-and-headmaster guys separately. The headmaster homage is actually decent enough on its own IMO.

[prjkt]

Preordered Hardhead and Skullcruncher. Prefer Takara's head for Hardhead, but I actually like Hasbro's Skullcruncher so I may cancel.

Interesting way of Takara releasing the mini vehicle things...

[BigTransformerTrev]

Bloody awesome looking eh! :D

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Doesn't the little bird-dinosaur thing they're including with Skullcruncher need the headmaster for the dinosaur mode?

It's a nice idea, but maybe they would have been better off releasing the vehicle-and-headmaster guys separately. The headmaster homage is actually decent enough on its own IMO.

There's a little seat for him to ride in, but it's not necessary for transformation, just fun for playability.

That said, it would be nice if they offered an alternate extra head that could be used in the accessory dudes.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

So it can make the complete mini-T-Rex mode without the headmaster?

I was looking at the pictures before, and it looks a lot like the headmaster guy makes the arms and lower jaw of the dinosaur to me.
Hope I'm wrong, 'cos I really like the look of the little dino-bird-thing, especially his dino-mode, so it'd suck to have to choose between keeping Skullcruncher in crocodile mode VS not being able to complete the dino-dude.

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I was looking at the pictures before, and it looks a lot like the headmaster guy makes the arms and lower jaw of the dinosaur to me.

Looking at the pictures again, you're right! It does look like the headmaster guy is part of the dino dude!

Well that sucks! Unless they include an alternate head, but there's no indication of that... :(

[philby]

does there seem to be any differences with galvatron based on that prototype?

[prjkt]

I'm guessing any difference will be in the colour scheme. PC was pre-ordered out of the Hasbro Galvs so I've got this one on preorder along with Hardhead.

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From Dengeki Hobby Web (http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/172290/):

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[5FDP]

For once, I prefer the Hasbro version when seeing these pics of Galvatron.

[UltraMarginal]

For once, I prefer the Hasbro version when seeing these pics of Galvatron.

I agree, I'm liking the darker colours on the Hasbro version and the faceplate on Hardhead

[philby]

me three, definitely prefer the hasbro galvatron :)

[Paulbot]

I think I like this Galvatron more, but will have to check some pics of the Hasbro version.

Not sold yet on getting the TakTom versions of the deluxes.

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For some reason I like the Takara Galvatron much better than the Hasbro, i'm not sure why though...

[yoshi594]

For some reason I like the Takara Galvatron much better than the Hasbro, i'm not sure why though...

reminds me of the movie repaints of original galvatron. I like it! But i'm now regretting not getting the 35 dollar hasbro version from premium :(

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But i'm now regretting not getting the 35 dollar hasbro version from premium :(

Yeah, that price is hard to beat! Particularly as Takara Galvatron doesn't have the extra vehicle accessories like Hardhead and Skullcruncher do.

[5FDP]

reminds me of the movie repaints of original galvatron. I like it! But i'm now regretting not getting the 35 dollar hasbro version from premium :(

You and me both. Completely missed the presale :(

[DELTAprime]

Haven't seen the non-CGI pictures of Hasbro Galvatron so I can't compare, but I think he will be fine in hand and very '86 movie accurate. The reason I think that is because what Takara's photos tend to look like is a little brighter than the final figure. Just look at MP-11 Thundcracker for example.

Anyway I ordered all three of these guys along with Delta Magnus from HLJ this morning.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

The only one of these guys I'm interested in is Skullcruncher, and I'm kind of torn.:(
I like the colours and headsculpt better on the TT version, and it'll be way easier for me to get my hands on, but I don't like the way that including the little dino-bird-guy (who actually looks pretty cool - it's the only one of the vehicle-and-headmaster guys that I liked) with him means you can't have it in dinosaur mode, and I also sort of want him to have a standard blaster like the G1 version.

I think the Hasbro release has narrowly won out here.

[griffin]

So if TakaraTomy are pairing up with their Deluxe figures, the vehicles from the Hasbro Titan Master size class (the packs that have a head and transforming vehicle), I wonder if they will still be releasing those Hasbro heads at some point, or use them as in-store purchase freebies like all the Minicons and Legion toys in recent years.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

They'd probably work well for gacha machines, as well as hopefully those a retro style headmasters pack, like they did back ion the day with those 5 (?) HM dudes.

Amazin japan has a listing up and says the release will be in July, does that mean we'll see TTs before hasbros in shops?

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From TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/711867193198120960):

http://i.imgur.com/HOwW4WB.jpg

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Via Planet Iacon (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/pcb.1036293439769929/1036293373103269/?type=3&theater) -- upcoming Takara takes on Titans:

http://i.imgur.com/9XJnHnn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YA2xztQ.jpg?1

EDIT:

Character names:

LG-24 Shockwave & Cancer
LG-25 Blurr
LG-26 Scourge
LG-27 Blaster
LG-28 Nightbeat & Rewind
LG-29 Wheelie & Go Shooter
LG-30 Character A (provisional)
LG-31 Fortress Maximus

[ampoldj]

wow a shockwave? will this be a Takara only release.

hmmm new Japan only sounds for Fort Max :rolleyes:

[prjkt]

That's the CW Legends Shockwave mould

Otherwise, nothing much new here, looking forward to the colour reveals

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I wonder what extra head Shockwave bundles with? Knowing Takara, it'll be the head that matches with Skullcruncher's dino dude making you have to buy it just so you can complete him. :rolleyes:

[griffin]

Well I guess that makes sense... they are selling the heads from the Hasbro Titanmasters packs with Hasbro Legends toys, because the partner vehicles/beasts from those Titanmaster packs were being sold with Hasbro Deluxes.
I was wondering what they were going to do with the leftover heads.

[valkyrie_76]

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i354/valkyrie1976/1458908882240_zpskvimgzeb.jpg (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/valkyrie1976/media/1458908882240_zpskvimgzeb.jpg.html)
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i354/valkyrie1976/1458908677896_zpspxdgby0n.jpg (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/valkyrie1976/media/1458908677896_zpspxdgby0n.jpg.html)

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From Figure King #218 (via Loopaza Mega Store (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/photos/pcb.1089933764401471/1089929101068604/?type=3&theater)):

http://s21.postimg.org/b3vn4q7nn/12141055_1089929101068604_5339558847549179238_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/b3vn4q7nn/)

Click on image to open in new window/tab, click again for full size.

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Better scan of Figure King #218, courtesy of Randy Para (https://goo.gl/photos/GnmAhEa8XtYL8aDP9):

http://s9.postimg.org/b400903yz/Figure_King_218_099_Headmasters.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/b400903yz/)

Click on image to open in new tab/window, click again for full size

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LG32 Fortress Maximus up for preorder at BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12330&mode=retail) for US$229.99.

[DaptoDog]

While I have been sticking to Takara for Masterpiece and Combiners, I'm wondering if it's worth the premium for the Takara Fort Max over the Hasbro version? I got the Hasbro version of Metroplex in Big W for only $99 on sale leading into Christmas when it was released, whereas PC has Takara Fort Max up for $240.

[yoshi594]

While I have been sticking to Takara for Masterpiece and Combiners, I'm wondering if it's worth the premium for the Takara Fort Max over the Hasbro version? I got the Hasbro version of Metroplex in Big W for only $99 on sale leading into Christmas when it was released, whereas PC has Takara Fort Max up for $240.

well that 99 sale was a lucky sell thou when Big W did it. From the looks of Big w atm with their transformers stock, don't expect that to happen again.

So that leaves Target/Kmart/TRU/Myers.

Iirc target was 149 or 129 for metroplex and TRU was 199.

I dont' see fort max being 149 or even 129 at any stage in aus, probably closer to devastator price of 160/199

[DarkHyren]

I haven't really been keeping up with the Titan wars stuff, is the only difference between Takara and Hasbro Fort Max to be that Takara comes with a sword?
Like, a sword is nice, but I don't know if it's $40+ extra nice, you know?

[Paulbot]

I haven't really been keeping up with the Titan wars stuff, is the only difference between Takara and Hasbro Fort Max to be that Takara comes with a sword?
Like, a sword is nice, but I don't know if it's $40+ extra nice, you know?

We don't know what other difference. Only the silhouette has been seen (which makes people guess there's a sword). Best guess is the colours will be more Headmasters anime accurate.

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The closest price comparison we have was when Toy Dojo accidentally put up the listing for Hasbro Fort Max with an RRP of US$150.

[DaptoDog]

The closest price comparison we have was when Toy Dojo accidentally put up the listing for Hasbro Fort Max with an RRP of US$150.

Yeh I think Hasbro Fort Max will start at $199 at Big W / Target, question is what it will sell for when on sale?

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... question is what it will sell for when on sale?

Million dollar question right there! Buy now, or play the waiting game! :D

[griffin]

Fort Max has the same US RRP in America as Devastator, and the exchange rate hasn't gone down in the last 12 months, so I'd be expecting similar prices here as Devastator.

Unfortunately, the US RRP of Fort Max in America is more than Metroplex was in 2013... so if you actually remember how much Metroplex was in Australia, it is not something to compare Fort Max to for here.

[reillyd]

Wait, so is Wheelie and Shockwave new molds, or a remold?

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Wait, so is Wheelie and Shockwave new molds, or a remold?

Shockwave is the old mold from CW, and Wheelie is the new mold we saw at Toy Fair:

http://s10.postimg.org/mpv69e3g5/DSC08721.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/mpv69e3g5/)

Although we don't know what Takara will do with his colours.

[Paulbot]

And both Wheelie and Shockwave come with the bonus of another head that you can use for the larger robots (which will be the Nightbeat, Squeezeplay, Siren and Horri-Bull heads Hasbro are releasing with a vehicle/accessory as the Titan Master (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Generations#Titan_Masters) class)

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From TF_pr (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/718412238348914688):

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Coloured shots of both Shockwave (http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810868552/) and Scourge (http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810868514/), and a couple more of Blurr (http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810868507/):

http://i.imgur.com/yfVSJ4R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CY825yU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Dzvzaq9.jpg
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[kurdt_the_goat]

They way they've painted the head on Scourge looks heaps better than the Hasbro version. Apart from the hollow gun it almost looks like a United beater now. Is that so the headmaster can ride in it or something else i've missed?

Also what size deluxe are we expecting these to be?
I'd hate to get some new S3 bots only to see them dwarfed by Arcee :rolleyes:

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Is that so the headmaster can ride in it or something else i've missed?

Yeah, the little head dudes are meant to ride in the hollow part of the gun:

http://s21.postimg.org/ao7n7x1j7/DSC08747.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ao7n7x1j7/)

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Amazon Japan has better quality pics up of LG-24 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA%E3%8 2%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-LG24-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A6%E3%8 2%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%83%96-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B5%E3%83%BC/dp/B01DTS2JQ2), LG-25 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA%E3%8 2%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-LG25/dp/B01DTS2JX0) and LG-26 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC-%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA%E3%8 2%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-LG26/dp/B01DTS2KMA):

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[DELTAprime]

^ Their hand painted prototypes need a touch up.

[Ozgardian]

Million dollar question right there! Buy now, or play the waiting game! :D
Considering the lack of supply we had for Devastator in the A.C.T price isn't my concern but more on availability! I for one will be shopping overseas for Fort Max this year. Although I can't see how Hasbro can possibly do worse than last year for stock issues. ...gz, I hope I didn't just jinx Oz!:eek:

[Zippo]

Odd that the first releases in Japan come with additional Titan Masters, but the second releases do not ..

[Lord_Zed]

^ Their hand painted prototypes need a touch up.

At least their Headmaster companions have paint, I noticed a distinct lack of paint on some Hasbro's in the Botcon photos.

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Considering the lack of supply we had for Devastator in the A.C.T price isn't my concern but more on availability! I for one will be shopping overseas for Fort Max this year. Although I can't see how Hasbro can possibly do worse than last year for stock issues. ...gz, I hope I didn't just jinx Oz!:eek:

You can try PC, they've already got Takara Fort Max (http://www.premiumcollectables.com.au/products/transformers-legend-lg31-fortress-maximus) listed, and did have the Hasbro version up before they took it down -- probably because they're not allowed to advertise it early.


Odd that the first releases in Japan come with additional Titan Masters, but the second releases do not ..

They're probably saving it for the next lot of releases.

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TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/720188283452465152) pimpin' the upcoming releases:

http://i.imgur.com/kFEKOpt.jpg

[5FDP]

I'm liking that Scourge.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

TF Yuki pimpin' the wares:

http://i.imgur.com/PJncUda.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cg5hgoG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mo3VskU.jpg

Also ZMultiplier (http://photo.weibo.com/3104914545/talbum/detail/photo_id/3970600844742030) back with the half (assed) reveals:

http://i.imgur.com/rTQD3Ni.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Via TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/727784825529073665):

http://i.imgur.com/6VihsaX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aga1mbw.jpg

[MV75]

So is shockwave supposed to be the TCS Behemoth?

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

TF Yuki having a play around:

http://i.imgur.com/fTh4efa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MqZ4Ec9.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Coloured pics via e-hobby shop (http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shopbrand/ct103):

http://i.imgur.com/fPBomkV.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/DuIa0Ie.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KxkEkTp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WlBgRIS.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EGT9OtP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SoU2wTg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Rz8DnIR.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sgXIpsY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4wFyjBi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5Kq8ZaB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/H3B2AV1.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/WtPzrk9.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/jq1FCb2.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aC1dQlZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QPIm5eb.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/OGqweRx.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gvAjqZE.jpg

Edit: Comparison shots of Hasbro vs Takara Fort Max (courtesy of TF Prototype (https://www.facebook.com/TFPrototype/posts/1152552958112857)):

http://s32.postimg.org/n3e58rcld/13173245_1152552098112943_1808764496090621584_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/n3e58rcld/)
http://s32.postimg.org/3zktsezr5/13221295_1152552094779610_7827949351987807151_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/3zktsezr5/)

[Borgeman]

I'd say that Hasbro fort max has the better torso and arms, with Takara having the better lower legs and head.

Takara is more faithful in city mode but most people wont display that mode so meh

[griffin]

The colours on the Japanese ones look so much more vibrant... I hope the actual toys look that colourful and they aren't just painted mockups.

[FruitBuyer]

That Blaster looks so beautiful. It's so hard to resist.

[DELTAprime]

HLJ have finished listing this batch of LG figures.

[TAAUBlaster]

HLJ have finished listing this batch of LG figures.

Awesome. I saw most of them up this morning, but they didn't have Blaster listed when I placed my order. Just added him now - thanks for the heads up. :)

[5FDP]

These look great... and it's for that very reason why we'll probably never get these hitting our shores. All I am seeing these days are RiD and Rescue Bots warming my local store shelves.

[drifand]

TT version for the win, I did not order any but if I were to choose, the TT one definately attracks me way more.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Coloured version minus the watermark on Amazon Japan

Wheelie and Go-Shooter (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-LG29-%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC-%E3%82%B4%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%8 2%BF%E3%83%BC/dp/B01FGYNWTK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1463118166&sr=8-4&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC+%E3%83%AC %E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA)
Rewind and nightbeat (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-LG28-%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89-%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%83%93%E3%83%BC%E3%8 3%88/dp/B01FGYNWWM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1463118166&sr=8-3&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC+%E3%83%AC %E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA)
Broadcast (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-LG27-%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%AD%E3%8 3%A3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88/dp/B01FGYNWIQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463118166&sr=8-2&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC+%E3%83%AC %E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA) AKA Blaster
WeirdWolf (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC---%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A3%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%8 2%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95/dp/B01FGYO3O8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1463118166&sr=8-5&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC+%E3%83%AC %E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA)
Fortress Maximus (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%88%E3%83%9F%E3%8 3%BC---%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%8 2%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%AC%E3%8 2%B9%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AD%E3%82%B7%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9/dp/B01FGYO438/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1463118166&sr=8-6&keywords=%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%8 3%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC+%E3%83%AC %E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Couple of more comparisons via TF Prototype (https://www.facebook.com/TFPrototype/):

http://s32.postimg.org/6w26794ap/13173580_1152942564740563_3412307381505843775_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/6w26794ap/)
http://s32.postimg.org/438yn83y9/13235277_1152942561407230_1399867495398533750_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/438yn83y9/)
http://s32.postimg.org/qt83g7n5t/13161932_1152573748110778_863727032739302397_o.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qt83g7n5t/)

[DELTAprime]

Awesome. I saw most of them up this morning, but they didn't have Blaster listed when I placed my order. Just added him now - thanks for the heads up. :)

Yeah I noticed that also, but I hit it up again after a little time had passed and Blaster was there. So glad I am getting these guys from TT and not Hasbro, they really do look great.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

So glad I am getting these guys from TT and not Hasbro, they really do look great.

Hasbro really need to hire better "stylists" (for want of a better word); if they just knew where to put their colours, it would make their figures look a lot better!

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

TF Yuki teasing us with some in-hands:

http://i.imgur.com/T7pe1Hr.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/K9k36F1.jpg

[prjkt]

Wheelie looks great, glad I've got him on order, as for the 'cons, will probably stick to Hasbro versions (I like their Skullcruncher head better)

[SharkyMcShark]

Don't know if these will be enough to get me back into mainstream Transformers products, but Christ on a bike these look about ten times better than the tripe we've had recently.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Various shots from TF Yuki:

http://i.imgur.com/5ftGGaO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gyMrtzD.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/8D9TlKk.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/eD2RV65.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

More from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/734221489734488064):

http://i.imgur.com/imFe9IO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/oW4FbhT.jpg

[prjkt]

that's something I hadn't known about Hardhead's cannon...

[Deonasis]

that's something I hadn't known about Hardhead's cannon...

Which is very cool and also cool that it reminds me of this classic..

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/27101643281_67a5f4791a_z.jpg:D

[prjkt]

Hah, pbfcomics ftw

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

From Figure King magazine #220 (via Loopaza (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/posts/1129196437141870)):

http://s33.postimg.org/g8vw8i8uz/13235522_1129194513808729_4969974693776934913_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/g8vw8i8uz/)
http://s33.postimg.org/o19oy08kb/13304958_1129194527142061_4208619904304439708_o.jp g (http://postimg.org/image/o19oy08kb/)

[reillyd]

Who's the new guy with a transparent drill?

[Akky82]

Who's the new guy with a transparent drill?

They're just showing how rook was retooled into Nosecone for UW Computron (99% sure).

[GoktimusPrime]

The text says that they're test shots for Nosecone. :)

[kup]

As expected, Japanese Fort Max is more cartoon/G1 accurate while Hasbro seems to have attempted a MTMTE color scheme. However, the mould is clearly trying to be G1 Fort Max so I don't think the IDW paint scheme doesn't really work.

Everything else looks great though.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Via TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/tfyuki):

http://i.imgur.com/odnJM4Y.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/WRBiPIW.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wrUP06Q.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/D8G9HSK.jpg

[prjkt]

Walker mode Hardhead looks rad

[GoktimusPrime]

Walker mode Hardhead looks rad
#攻殻機動隊 #ghostintheshell :cool:

[philby]

#攻殻機動隊 #ghostintheshell :cool:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/toonami/images/d/d2/Tachikoma.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131121002206

[valkyrie_76]

More like this one:

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i354/valkyrie1976/GITS-Vehicles_clip_image002_0002_zpswfhagi1r.jpg (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/valkyrie1976/media/GITS-Vehicles_clip_image002_0002_zpswfhagi1r.jpg.html)
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i354/valkyrie1976/GITS-Vehicles_clip_image007_0000_zpskj8ctsiu.jpg (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/valkyrie1976/media/GITS-Vehicles_clip_image007_0000_zpskj8ctsiu.jpg.html)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

A scan from Hyper Hobby / Mook Character Land (via The AllSpark (http://www.allspark.com/2016/06/hyper-hobby-mook-character-land-vol-7-transformers-scans-legends-headmasters/)):

http://s33.postimg.org/t0yqihdsb/Hyper_Hobby_Vol_7_097.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/t0yqihdsb/)

Plus a comparison of the Shockwaves from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/740517485879795712):

http://i.imgur.com/jzYu2tu.jpg

[griffin]

The display of Legends (Titans Return) toys at the Tokyo Toy Show (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takaratomy-transformers-legends-tokyo-toy-show-2016-display-images/35593/).

[griffin]

More images of Scourge (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/06/18/transformers-legends-scourge-new-images-317287), which doesn't come out until August.

[griffin]

More official images of Weirdwolf with Monzo (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/07/03/takara-legends-weirdwolf-stock-images-318308) (both original names on the Japanese toy, as opposed to the Hasbro Wolfwire with Monxo).

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Via Planet Iacon (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/pcb.1100611180004821/1100610760004863/?type=3&theater) -- Chromedome, Highbrow and Mindwipe:

http://i.imgur.com/VCBfFc3.png
http://i.imgur.com/0M99Vim.png
http://i.imgur.com/SlkR42E.png

[Lord_Zed]

Nice!

Unlike the cheap Hasbro version Takara actually put some paint on Chromedome's Headmaster. Alas I will probably still got with the cheap looking Hasbro version as it has the MTMTE style head.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Upcoming LG's (via Loopaza (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/posts/1155301587864688)):

LG35 - Super Ginrai (November 2016, 8,500 JPY)
LG36 - Soundwave (November 2016, 8,000 JPY)
LG37 - Jaguar (Ravage) & Bullhorn (November 2016, 1,800 JPY)
LG38 - Condor (Laserbeak) & Apeface (November 2016, 1,800 JPY)
LG39 - Brainstorm (December 2016, 4,000 JPY)
LG40 - Astrotrain (December 2016, 5,000 JPY)

http://i.imgur.com/EAFpN9e.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/oPVJCCU.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SM5ZT52.jpg

[reillyd]

Can anyone with eagle-eyes spot any differences in the shadow for Ginrai?

[TAAUBlaster]

My poor Paypal wallet...

[griffin]

Amazon Japan have added Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe/Mindwipe to their site, with the usual HUGE clear official images.

Legends
- LG-32 - Chromedome (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01I4FE788) (Titans Return Deluxe with Titanmaster Nightbeat's vehicle)
- LG-33 - Highbrow (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01I4FE76U) (Titans Return Deluxe with Titanmaster Loudmouth's vehicle)
- LG-34 - Wipe (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01I4FE73I) (Mindwipe) (Titans Return Deluxe with Titanmaster Crashbash's vehicle)

They all have November 26th noted as their release date, which means LG-35 to LG-38, a few posts above, will actually be December, and Brainstorm & Astrotrain will be January. (the dates on those particular silhouette images have always been a month or two out)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Party at TF Yuki's (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/751689134616350721)!:

http://i.imgur.com/99oE3jI.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wSZ842K.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sXBewHN.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/LJs3WLC.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

More pics from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/751996201709367296):

http://i.imgur.com/ZpgzFji.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/09wInDJ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/RcqbaZJ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/u9vgvEr.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Interesting base modes from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/754527600857403392):

http://i.imgur.com/F1lOBbE.jpg

[Paulbot]

http://i.imgur.com/u9vgvEr.jpg

Can not wait for this guy. Looks so good!


Interesting base modes from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/754527600857403392):

http://i.imgur.com/F1lOBbE.jpg

Posing a robot as a City mode is an idea I've had before (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8900) ;)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

More teaser shots from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/754976438567272448):

http://i.imgur.com/UEZtdYO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SJ60SZx.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/cReEH6E.jpg

[optimus1]

Looking soooo good :)
So tempted by so many here!

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Via clash2929 (https://twitter.com/clash2929/status/756074365947523072):

http://i.imgur.com/4dj7Uok.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/91GaqW6.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/WkgGXEN.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/1OSnK1e.jpg

[DELTAprime]

Just need God Bomber now.

[Lord_Zed]

Now that actually looks like a decent large toy.

Looks like Taktom are putting the "leader" back in leader class.:)

[philby]

the feet look....weird...???

[MayzaPrime]

the feet look....weird...???

Yes... they look like the type of feet that can combine with something :p

[MrTrick]

Wow I was planning just getting Ginrai but with such vast differences to the TR Optimus I will have to pick up both!

+1 forGodbomber

[DELTAprime]

The feet look like they are meant to represent the boots the God Ginrai toy had as opposed to the rest of the toy which looks like Super Ginrai.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

From Figure King No. 222 (via Loopaza (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/posts/1165791046815742)):

http://i.imgur.com/Hu9Jdgz.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uXbl0Zu.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Looks like Hasui (https://twitter.com/Hasui_TF/status/756500364111687680) is getting in on the act (although the Highbrow looks to be the Hasbro version):

http://i.imgur.com/DxGeRnQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3DA3mJX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/C5qQD1j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/seKOFDm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fD4xZ1D.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

I've really been on the fence between getting PM Optimus Prime or Super Ginrai... but after seeing these scans I've decided to go for Ginrai.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/ginraipmop_zpst0i4axi6.jpg

[Megatran]

^ The Hasbro version has the shoulder cannons on the trailer with the wrong orientation.

Hope that didn't skew your decision Gok. :p

[GoktimusPrime]

I can see that there are posts on either side, so that didn't bother me in the slightest. It's mainly the front grill of the truck cab that clinched it for me. It looks more aesthetically pleasing to me and also helps to make the toy look more distinctive from Powermaster Optimus Prime.

PC are already sold out so I'll have to wait until the preorders open up on HLJ or Amazon JP. :o

[GoktimusPrime]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I found some pics of Super Ginrai on the Dengeki website
http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/231637/

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Live shot from Wonderfest (via Chohenken (https://twitter.com/Chohenken/status/757022664439373824)):

http://i.imgur.com/v3VGBfG.jpg

[griffin]

Apart from the feet, it looks better than a Masterpiece.

[aching878]

there's nothing wrong with the feet tho :confused:

http://i.imgur.com/3TuUelcm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PZxD9Mi.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Ginrai video from Dengeki Hobby (https://youtu.be/HO8apQ3__OQ?t=5h48m22s) (with terrible audio lag and annoying overly-enthusiastic chick).

Interesting that he also gets a little Prime head underneath the mask (via Snakas (http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-5377.html)):

http://i.imgur.com/fu4EXZu.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/rIDZF5D.jpg

[reillyd]

That last photo of the new head clinches it. I must buy the Takara mold. The Titanmaster robot side isn't even painted on the Hasbro, and I feel cheated having bought it

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

The Titanmaster robot side isn't even painted on the Hasbro, and I feel cheated having bought it

I wouldn't trust Takara anymore either i'm afraid -- their stock photos of Galvatron's titan master was completely painted:

http://i.imgur.com/SbvosjY.jpg

And yet their production version was not!:

http://i.imgur.com/ZT7kASG.jpg?1

Without seeing actual production versions, i'm definitely questioning whether I should continue buying Takara over Hasbro.

[GoktimusPrime]

That last photo of the new head clinches it.
Agreed. The Orion Pax head makes no sense for Powermaster Optimus Prime anyway. :rolleyes: Having the smaller Ginrai head underneath the Super Ginrai head is a nice nod to G1 Ginrai's regular and Super robot modes.

Without seeing actual production versions, i'm definitely questioning whether I should continue buying Takara over Hasbro.
Eh, unless the TakaraTOMY version is significantly different enough for me to warrant skipping the Hasbro version, I usually go with the Hasbro version.

[CHILENO20]

Not a fan of the Ginrai feet. But definitely getting it :D

[Lord_Zed]

Without seeing actual production versions, i'm definitely questioning whether I should continue buying Takara over Hasbro.

Usually Taktom have more paint aps than Hasbro's which for me makes a big difference when they break up blocks of the same colour, or hubcaps on wheels.

I do not have any Titan Returns figures, but from what I've seen they take limited paint aps to a new low, so I worry that the Taktom version may only be equivalent to what we used to get from Hasbro.

[philby]

Yes... they look like the type of feet that can combine with something :p

combine with what? i remember a powermaster optimus toy being around but i don't remember it joining with other toys. or do you mean the base mode thing? i know nothing about this era of cartoon so i dont know what the details are with these guys

[1AZRAEL1]

combine with what? i remember a powermaster optimus toy being around but i don't remember it joining with other toys. or do you mean the base mode thing? i know nothing about this era of cartoon so i dont know what the details are with these guys

Super Ginrai (Powermaster Prime) formed with another character called God Bomber to create a bigger robot called God Ginrai. Check out the figure on this link. Fans are hopeful of the extra figure coming in the future to create God Ginrai

http://tfu.info/1988/Cybertron/GodGinrai/godginrai.htm

[philby]

thanks :)

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Via TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/760803822767710208):

http://i.imgur.com/OtGj5ly.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Stock images of Brainstorm (via Anime Export (http://www.anime-export.com/product/32785)):

http://i.imgur.com/It2mETz.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/bROpiyt.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/m8un3qh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/LauWC1J.jpg

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

From the various listings on Anime Export:

http://i.imgur.com/D06PrvB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3wYIEOa.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/1Wxn1ij.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gxTMRw0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/c0tFV0E.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/fNTbJR4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jrQI7XJ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/AHEUIcK.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/AaPT3Ke.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/qtFOilU.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/epL6U9E.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/PakRlWb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ew8dLFu.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aZ8poLV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eWPMp6W.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/FWLmRbd.jpg

Via TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/761513763161845761):

http://i.imgur.com/OET3cwD.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Tp3TGOq.jpg

[Bidoofdude]

Soundwave, Laserbeak and Ravage all look fantastic, might try for them instead of Hasbro.

[prjkt]

Seeing Brainstorm, I'm really glad I ordered the Hasbro version... It looks like a completely different character (Which I guess for owners of the voyager size one, isn't entirely a bad thing)

[GoktimusPrime]

The TakaraTOMY version is going for Japanese show-accuracy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/e2/HM3_Brainstorm.jpg), whereas the Hasbro version can afford to be more toy-accurate as Brainstorm was drawn more toy-accurately in the Anglophone cartoon (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/64/Brainstormspike.jpg) and comics (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/57/Brainstormtrialbyfire.jpg). Both versions make sense for their respective markets. :)

Although despite the IDW influence, I still find the Generations Voyager figure to have a more G1-accurate looking body, whereas the Titans Return mould is obviously reverse engineered from Blurr. The scale thing isn't an issue for me so I'm happy to skip this mould entirely.

[prjkt]

The TakaraTOMY version is going for Japanese show-accuracy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/e2/HM3_Brainstorm.jpg), whereas the Hasbro version can afford to be more toy-accurate as Brainstorm was drawn more toy-accurately in the Anglophone cartoon (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/6/64/Brainstormspike.jpg) and comics (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/57/Brainstormtrialbyfire.jpg). Both versions make sense for their respective markets. :)

Although despite the IDW influence, I still find the Generations Voyager figure to have a more G1-accurate looking body, whereas the Titans Return mould is obviously reverse engineered from Blurr. The scale thing isn't an issue for me so I'm happy to skip this mould entirely.

Good points there, I never really followed the Japanese continuity, but after checking tfwiki I see your point. Interesting that they didn't do this for their version of the Voyager release.

Good thing we're spoilt for choice

[GoktimusPrime]

I think that there were some benefits to not retooling the Voyager head for TakaraTOMY, including:
Cheaper :p
The Hasbro head is still G1 toy-accurate; the Brainstorm toy was identical in Japan (http://sky.geocities.jp/gekirobogun/TFG/brainstorm16.jpg). This is different from say the head of Cerebros/Fortress; the Hasbro figure is based on the way that Marvel (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/56/CerebrosG1-TrialByFire.jpg)/Sunbow (http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/rah/transformersusa/4-3/47.JPG) drew him which looks nothing like the G1 toy (http://toys.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2007/10/max_cerebros_1191931472.jpg), and the Japanese cartoon (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/0/09/Hm28_fortress_examines_targetmaster.jpg) was more toy accurate. Hence it would have too little appeal for the Japanese market which was probably why TakaraTOMY went with a more toy/anime-accurate head (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27601042d1467972939-new-stock-photos-takaratomy-lg-31-fortress-maximus-cm1ayqduiaaqka5.jpg) for their Fortress/Cerebros.
There are Japanese fans who follow the IDW comics (http://kuwakuwaherahera.seesaa.net).
The retooled head on the Deluxe now gives Japanese fans who own the Voyager an additional excuse to buy the Deluxe. ;) I'm not in a position to criticise this considering that I recently bought PM Optimus Prime and I'm still considering getting Ginrai. :p

[prjkt]

I was more talking about the colour scheme, but there's that too.

It's interesting how Takara with their TG/LG series they've often got more western media accurate deco's than Hasbro - such as the entire FOC lineup, Ultra Magnus' red legs (from IDW) and Skid's IDW-esque deco...

[GoktimusPrime]

It's interesting how Takara with their TG/LG series they've often got more western media accurate deco's than Hasbro - such as the entire FOC lineup, Ultra Magnus' red legs (from IDW) and Skid's IDW-esque deco...
I was editing my last post when you posted your reply, but yeah, there are Japanese fans who follow the IDW comics so the more IDW decoes would hold greater appeal for those fans. Although TakaraTOMY did abandon keeping Minimus Ambus in favour of repainting and repurposing that mould as Alpha Trion which makes no sense for IDW fans. But I'm guessing that Japanese fans who follow IDW would be a minority and Alpha Trion would hold greater market appeal. I think that TakaraTOMY are happy to make their toys IDW accurate as long as that accuracy doesn't make a reference that would be too obscure for those who have no knowledge of IDW. The red legs on Ultra Magnus and darker blue and additional red stripes on Skids are also more G1 toy accurate. The pink lines on Skids aren't G1 accurate but they also don't obscure Skids to the point that he would be unrecognisable to Japanese non-IDW savvy G1 fans, whereas I reckon a lot of those fans would've looked at Minimus Ambus and went, "Who the Fukushima is that?!" :p Heck, even at the EB Games Expo last year I had quite a few Aussie fans wondering who the hell Minimus Ambus was! So you can imagine how much lesser known this would be in Japan. ;)

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Some comparison shots from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/762117927441080320):

http://i.imgur.com/EjuReBF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YtQaEK9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/C3nJHQS.jpg

[griffin]

Hmmm... still no sword being shown in Fort Max photos. It's almost like the Japanese version isn't going to get one.

[GoktimusPrime]

Time for him to change from Master Sword to Master Punch! :p But that's okay, because we all know that fist beats sword (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/41/BotShots-rules.jpg). ;)

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Hrm, yes. No mention of the sworf on the items in the amazon listing either. Al the later HMs have their accessories listed. Max is claimed as having "Body and Instructions"

Ah, but the TT mall page has a (http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810868576/)better item breakdown where it states 3 weapons. No pictures of a sword though.

[GoktimusPrime]

I guess the "3 weapons" must be Cerebros' gun and the two leg cannons (which can detach and become hand guns for Fort Max). :eek:

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Package shots from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/764788179169796096):

http://i.imgur.com/JBDYMpn.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/J9ewQIf.jpg

[prjkt]

can't wait for Blurr to hit. Much prefer that design to the Hasbro one, much more vibrant.

As for Shockwave... meh, too light imo, but I guess it's cartoon accurate.

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More package pimping from TF Yuki (https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/765026710102212609):

http://i.imgur.com/8HAGQyy.jpg

[philby]

have they shown what the takara astrotrain will look like?

[GoktimusPrime]

I would expect show-accurate colours whereas the Hasbro one has clearly gone for toy-and-all-other-G1-media-accurate colours. ;)

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have they shown what the takara astrotrain will look like?

Not yet as some of the Japanese stores don't even have him listed!

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Astrotrain reveal (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/photos/pcb.1203363336391846/1203362003058646/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/M9KPLr9.jpg

[griffin]

Astrotrain reveal (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/photos/pcb.1203363336391846/1203362003058646/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/M9KPLr9.jpg

I guess that was expected, as they did the same thing with the classics (white Hasbro, grey TakaraTomy), and had that limited edition reissue.
I'm not a fan of the two alt-modes of this Astrotrain, but since I display them in robot mode, I might end up getting this plus the Hasbro one.

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Some better quality shots (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/review?scode=FIGURE-022615&page=top):

http://i.imgur.com/qLV25dW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oij1kce.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pljW1T0.jpg

[Bidoofdude]

I like how this guy looks. Do I get him or try and get my hands on the fantastic Henkei deluxe? I'll be in Japan for 2 months starting in December.

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Display at the Singapore Toy, Game & Comic Convention (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/posts/1147367021995903):

http://i.imgur.com/p3PCxsT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PGhoDXv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7Kp5oqD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HEyYbDA.jpg

[griffin]

From TFYuki comes a photo of next month's Chromedome toy (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/10/10/transformers-legends-chromedome-new-image-326232).

Plus a couple of Soundwave pics (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/10/05/transformers-legends-soundwave-new-images-325832), who comes out in December.

[Sinnertwin]

From TFYuki comes a photo of next month's Chromedome toy (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/10/10/transformers-legends-chromedome-new-image-326232).

Plus a couple of Soundwave pics (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/10/05/transformers-legends-soundwave-new-images-325832), who comes out in December.

Chromedome looks amazing.
Soundwave is so-so...

[griffin]

Legends Super Ginrai (out in December) is looking really good in robot mode (from TakaraTomy's twitter (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/787255253854883840?s=09))... almost good enough to fit into the Masterpiece shelf.

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Via TF_Pr (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/797035919194734592?lang=en):

http://i.imgur.com/RD1tEdG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R06jCvE.jpg

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Lookign nice. For a minute there I though Chromedome lost his space wheels, but they are just a darker colour

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Via TF_pr (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/801314252971708416?lang=en):

http://i.imgur.com/gYFOhsI.jpg

[Initial_G]

Brainstorm's face looks off, though I'm used to the US Headmasters I guess

[Omega Metro]

Who is the black/grey guy with the red sword?

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Who is the black/grey guy with the red sword?

Japanese version of Cerebros.

[Omega Metro]

Japanese version of Cerebros.

Thanks. I don't have Fortress Maximus so had no idea.:p

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Brainstorm's face looks off, though I'm used to the US Headmasters I guess

Likewise, While I like the Japanese face of the others not so sold on Brainstorm there.

[aching878]

Brainstorm is on point to the jp show so it's normal to not like if it's not the brainstorm you grew up with ;)

[reillyd]

The colors on Brainstorm look blue like the original box art. I always dreamed of a blue Brainstorm toy, so stoked with how he turned out. I'll just swap the head with the Hasbro version

[DELTAprime]

I bought the Titan Force set to get a Brainstorm that looks like the G1 cartoon (at least in bot mode). It's not an expensive set last time I looked.

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According to Planet Iacon, LG-42 will be God Bomber (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.193516854047596.45210.190726147660000/1221813714551233/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/0YoLbYl.jpg

[griffin]

A new image of Leo Prime has been tweeted by TakaraTomy (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-image-of-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg41-leo-prime/36853/), showing us how vibrant its colours will be, with the bright red, crisp white, and regal gold.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2016/120402.jpg

I think it is a more fitting use of that mould than Alpha Trion, who was probably only used for that mould because FunPub gave Alpha Trion a lion form a few years ago.

[FruitBuyer]

He looks better and better every time I see him. The paint and not coloured plastic really takes it to another level.

[griffin]

Tweeted by TakaraTomy (https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/807874730233446400) is a comparison of their Super Ginrai toy to the Hasbro Powermaster Optimus toy.

Super Ginrai comes out in Asia in a couple of weeks.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2016/121101.jpg

[prjkt]

Hmm a little taller, cool. Going to be one big beast when God Bomber is added

[DELTAprime]

New tweet showing off the packaging. Reminds me of my original PM Prime.

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/809732498536042496

http://i.imgur.com/ZPlsBFW.jpg

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From Figure King #227 (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.193516854047596.45210.190726147660000/1274172609315343/?type=3&theater), looks like TT will be releasing a head pack consisting of:


Grimlock
Brawn
Flywheels
Chromedome (IDW version)
Hardhead (Toy Version)
Brainstorm (TF G1 Rebirth Version)

http://i.imgur.com/K6D0h90.jpg

[GoktimusPrime]

New tweet showing off the packaging. Reminds me of my original PM Prime.
:confused: Really? Cos PM Prime does have a lighter and flatter grey plastic which is more similar to Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime, whereas Ginrai has a darker and shinier grey which appears to be reflected in LG Ginrai.

As I said in my review of TRPMOP (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=532367&postcount=4):

Powermaster Optimus Prime's overall look and colours may seem cheap compared to Ginrai, but it's G1 accurately cheap! This gallery (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/masterforce/powermaster-optimus-prime/151/2/) includes comparison photos of G1 Powermaster Optimus Prime and Ginrai, and Ginrai always look nicer that PM OP. But he is not Optimus Prime.
And you can see the side-by-side comparison photo that I posted of G1 and TR Powermaster Optimus Prime. I do have a G1 (reissue) Ginrai, but I don't have LG Ginrai to post a comparison pic. Here is the LG Ginrai review thread (http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=23842), but there nobody's posted any pics yet, let alone a comparison pic with the G1 figure. :o

[FatalityPitt]

A new image of Leo Prime has been tweeted by TakaraTomy (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-image-of-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg41-leo-prime/36853/), showing us how vibrant its colours will be, with the bright red, crisp white, and regal gold.


I've been going mad for Beast Wars lately, namely II and Neo (Jap series), so the Lio Convoy could very well be my first Takara Legends purchase.


From Figure King #227 (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.193516854047596.45210.190726147660000/1274172609315343/?type=3&theater), looks like TT will be releasing a head pack consisting of:


Grimlock
Brawn
Flywheels
Chromedome (IDW version)
Hardhead (Toy Version)
Brainstorm (TF G1 Rebirth Version)



Interesting.. I think it's nice that the TakaraTomy market have the option of having the Grimlock, Brawn and Flyweels heads; but I noticed that those Titan Masters have been peg-warming like crazy over here, and they came with vehicles, whereas these ones won't.. I wonder how well this 6-pack will sell.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Interesting.. I think it's nice that the TakaraTomy market have the option of having the Grimlock, Brawn and Flyweels heads; but I noticed that those Titan Masters have been peg-warming like crazy over here, and they came with vehicles, whereas these ones won't.. I wonder how well this 6-pack will sell.

I think it will sell fairly well. The Legends Headmasters have been flying off of shelves in Japan and are rather hard to find in store. The crappy little vehicles being included with deluxes means that they won't have to bump up the price of the heads. Hopefully it will be a reasonable price.

Although it looks like they might be listed as part of Cybertron Satellite capmaign... not a good sign for general release if that's the case

[Zippo]

Looking forward to getting those heads - somehow
Either via an online store, but hopefully in person if there are any left by the time I get to Japan

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RK has a listing up for the head pack:

http://www.robotkingdom.com/lgexheadmaster.html