most absurd alt mode

[Autocon]

dont know if its been done before

which TF has the most weird absurd strange bizare alt mode that just gets u thinking why did they do that:confused:

[Bartrim]

I know it fits in with the story but I can't figure out Botanica. I just think it's silly.

[GoktimusPrime]

Aw man... the Beast Machines Maximals... the fact that Hasbro needs to label the beast modes on the package to tell you what the hell they're meant to be speaks volumes. (-_-)

Beast Machines Silverbolt... that condor mode is epic fail.

http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/4/0/5/9/7/Silverbolt-Beast_1211711223_thumb.jpg

[i_amtrunks]

Botanica is a failure for me because her alt mode was so wtf that there was not even a toy for her character ( I know Arcee and other characters also had no toy created, but I think Botanica's was purely for wtf reasons).

A few of the late G1 figures with "futuristic ____" as their alt mode annoyed me too.

[Pulse]

Didn't Daniel get a transforming Exosuit (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Exo-suit) in the movie? That'd have to be the worst alt-mode by default... :D

[Thanatos]

Personally I think Cosmos is a bit absurd.

He's not exactly "in Disguise", you know?

[liegeprime]

Animated Megatron . Cybertron mode. You dont even know which part is which - where's the cockpit in that er... thing, if it is a ship:confused::confused:

[Tommy K]

soundwaves lampost mode? that was just hilarious

[Paulbot]

soundwaves lampost mode? that was just hilarious
I think that Soundwave's cartoon Cybertronian mode is quite appropriate ( but I need to do a TF Mosaic or something to explain :) )

I nominate Grandslam and Raindance.

They turn from cassettes into a tank and a jet. So how do they open doors, or use computers, or scratch themselves? How impratical is it to not have a head at all? Their only way around this is to combine into their gestalt form which means they are totally dependent on each other to fit in to normal TF society.

[kup]

I think that Soundwave's cartoon Cybertronian mode is quite appropriate ( but I need to do a TF Mosaic or something to explain :) )


I agree. Soundwave's cybertronian alt mode may look lame but is highly practical at intercepting transmissions and overall intelligence gathering.

I think we have a new contender for lame alt modes with the Animated Jetstorm/Jetfire twins. Their alt modes look horrendous and their cobined form is not even a combination at all, just a pair of 'somethings' stuck at the bottom.

[GoktimusPrime]

In defence of Botanica, there's nothing inherently wrong with her alt mode. As she explained, she and her crew landed on a planet full of sentient plants and they scanned them as their alt modes, just as G1 Transformers scanned vehicles and Beast Wars Transformers scanned animals. Yes, it is a weird and extremely unorthodox concept, but I think it's rather neat in terms of demonstrating the extent of the Transformers' ability to blend and adapt to their environment. The sentient tree mode looks odd and out of place on Cybertron where she sticks out like a sore thumb - but to be fair, so do all the Maximals in Beast Machines! It's not as if any of their beast modes are really disguises... if anything, they serve to make them easier targets for Vehicons!


soundwaves lampost mode? that was just hilarious
But it works as a disguise. And it's not as if being a walkman is that much better. d: What about Blaster's Cybertronian alt mode? He was a computer console panel! :D


Personally I think Cosmos is a bit absurd.

He's not exactly "in Disguise", you know?
Says who eh? :D ;) :p

http://nerdvana.freedomblogging.com/files/2008/03/i-want-to-believe.jpg

[Tommy K]

im just saying its pretty funny, like maybe the cassetcons or whatever they are could just be the lights lol oh and wait when do we see blaster in his cybertron mode i have to see ths control panel thing lol

[SilverDragon]

Much as I like Animated, it's offering up strong contenders for absurd alt modes in the forms of Jetfire/Jetstorm and Cybertron Megatron.

Several Pretenders also count. Finback, for example allegedly transforms into a submarine. The pictures I've seen of his alt mode make him look NOTHING like one.

But I feel that the award for the most absurd alt modes goes not to anyone from the Transformers franchise, but from that other transforming robot series, the Machine Men. Two words: Rock Lords. Sure, Transformers had the Japan-only Eggbots, but the egg mode was more of a primary mode like Soundwave's cassette minions. I have yet to figure out the purpose of having a ROCK for an alternate mode. Disguise could be one, but then it wouldn't work outside of rocky environments.

[GoktimusPrime]

Let's stick to Transformers here (if you want to make one for non-TF lines please open a new thread in the non-TF section).


and wait when do we see blaster in his cybertron mode i have to see ths control panel thing lol
In "The Bridge To Nowhere!"
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/0/0f/Powerglideblastercybertronic.jpg

What's weirder than Soundwave as a streetlight or Blaster as a console is actually Laserbeak as a cassette on Cybertron. His robot mode is different - not a robotic condor, but his alt mode is still a magnetic cassette tape! Buh?! And it's not as if G1 cartoon writers were too short sighted to envision futuristic Cybertron as still using analogue data storage... in "The Ultimate Doom" and "Desertion of the Dinobots" we see data digitally stored on laser discs on Cybertron. Phwoar!!

Paulbot mentioned the impracticality of Raindance and Grand Slam's robot modes before... but their microcassette modes are just as ridiculous considering that those are, like Laserbeak, their Cybertronian alt modes!!

http://www.remix64.com/images/album_covers/th_ppot_loading_ready_run.jpg
Underbase
Load "*",8.1
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:p

[dirge]

Animorphs. Period.

[jacksplatt11]

Animorphs. Period.

hmm depends on wether we are talking about animorphs books/tv show, or animorphs toys..

in the books/tv show, they could transform perfectly into any animal they touched, its been a while since i've read them but i think they could transform into any person either?.. anyways, i think that's a pretty awesome "alt" mode..

the toys on the other hand, well.. yeah, not great haha

[SofaMan]

I think stupid Minicon Refute wins, just by having lamest alt made combined with most WTF name.

[liegeprime]

Megabolt megatron transforms into a giant head with legs... looks more like a big fat tick.:p

[STL]

Megabolt megatron transforms into a giant head with legs... looks more like a big fat tick.:p

I can see what ur saying here but I don't mind him at all. He's kind of neat.

I thought long and hard last night when this thread first came up but I honestly can't think of an alt mode that is really that absurd in TF lore.

[GoktimusPrime]

hmm depends on wether we are talking about animorphs books/tv show, or animorphs toys..

in the books/tv show, they could transform perfectly into any animal they touched, its been a while since i've read them but i think they could transform into any person either?.. anyways, i think that's a pretty awesome "alt" mode..

the toys on the other hand, well.. yeah, not great haha
This thread is about Transformers, so he's talking about Transformers Animorphs, which are the toys. The books, TV show etc. aren't part of Transformers (although a Beast Wars arcade game can be seen in the first episode of Animorphs :p).

Megabolt Megatron's alt mode suffers heaps from the silly legs and treads... (-_-)

[jacksplatt11]

This thread is about Transformers, so he's talking about Transformers Animorphs, which are the toys. The books, TV show etc. aren't part of Transformers

true, but we know the animorphs toys are derived from the books/tv show, so we know what their toy alt modes are meant to be, they are just executed very poorly.. i think its a bit unfair to label the alt modes absurd when we know what they are meant to be, but the toy just doesn't faithfully represent it..

i mean, if we are talking toys, i can think of a few transformers toys that when you look underneath them, give away that they are transformers, or aren't quite right in their execution...

i was under the impression we were talking about alt modes in the transformers fiction, which as you said wouldn't include animorphs, for obvious reasons..

[jaydisc]

The Beast Wars alarm clock squirrel with the big ballsack.

[Bartrim]

In defence of Botanica, there's nothing inherently wrong with her alt mode. As she explained, she and her crew landed on a planet full of sentient plants and they scanned them as their alt modes, just as G1 Transformers scanned vehicles and Beast Wars Transformers scanned animals.

Using that defence you could say that no transformers have absurd alt modes. Plus we aren't talking about which modes are wrong we are talking about (as far I as can gather) alt modes that are just silly and IMO Botanica takes the cake in that department.

BTW Jay... lol

[kup]

Using that defence you could say that no transformers have absurd alt modes. Plus we aren't talking about which modes are wrong we are talking about (as far I as can gather) alt modes that are just silly and IMO Botanica takes the cake in that department.

BTW Jay... lol

I totally agree. Also within the context of BW and BM her alt mode (and 'robot' mode) also does not make any freaking sense whatsoever.

Transformers which reformat themselves to suit the environment their in are still robots even if they are trying to mimic organic life. You see that in Beast Wars as their 'realistic' features were just on the outside.

Botanica seems to be Technorganic right off the bat unless the powers of the 'Oracle' reached offworld.

It was a stupid alt mode idea and the execution was every bit as bad. She is also a good example on what was wrong with the Beast Machines cartoon as a whole.

[GoktimusPrime]

true, but we know the animorphs toys are derived from the books/tv show, so we know what their toy alt modes are meant to be, they are just executed very poorly.. i think its a bit unfair to label the alt modes absurd when we know what they are meant to be, but the toy just doesn't faithfully represent it..
When it comes to Transformers, we can only refer to the Transformers Animorphs toys. And seriously... they're bad. Look at Rachel/Lion -- that is such a freakin' ridiculous toy! Her human face has that stupid lion face covering it that cannot be permanent retracted... her lower legs only ever look like lion hind legs... and most TF Animorph toys heavily rely on detachable kibble to complete the animal modes, kibble that's easily lost.

The only exception that I can think of is Tobias/Hawk who's actually a reasonably decent figure. The human mode looks reasonably human and transforms into a fair facsimile of a hawk! The other TF Animorphs all transform into freakin' were-beasts, not humans (e.g.: Casse/Wolf's human mode is a freakin' werewolf mode!!).


i mean, if we are talking toys, i can think of a few transformers toys that when you look underneath them, give away that they are transformers, or aren't quite right in their execution...

Yes, but TF Animorphs look bad from any angle. :p Tobias/Hawk is the only exception I can think of - he is like most other Transformers in that he looks convincing from most angles (of course there is always one angle that gives it away). But the rest of them are crap.


i was under the impression we were talking about alt modes in the transformers fiction, which as you said wouldn't include animorphs, for obvious reasons..
Autocon never specified fiction or toys or anything - he just said which TF has the most strange/absurd/bizarre alt mode, so anything TF-related counts! :)


The Beast Wars alarm clock squirrel with the big ballsack.
That is an absurd mode, yet simultaneously so full of awesomesauce!! :D


Using that defence you could say that no transformers have absurd alt modes.
Well I suppose we could look at alt modes that are absurd even in the context of what they're meant to be.

For example, Laserbeak, Raindance and Grand Slam's alt modes as cassette tapes is silly in the context of being Cybertronian alt modes with supposedly super-futuristic technology... yet still using magnetic analog data storage devices. Blargh. Paulbot was saying that Raindance and Grand Slam's individual robot modes are impractical because they're really just vehicle modes... which means that they essentially have two alt modes but not true robot mode (I suppose they're like G1 Mutant Beasts :p). They're very limited in what they can do unless they combine together!

But TBH Autocon hasn't specified any set definition of "absurd" so it's really open to everyone's own interpretation. :)


Botanica seems to be Technorganic right off the bat unless the powers of the 'Oracle' reached offworld.

It was a stupid alt mode idea and the execution was every bit as bad. She is also a good example on what was wrong with the Beast Machines cartoon as a whole.
Botanica's plant mode was organic before Primal reformatted her into her technorganic form.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/1/13/Botanica_OriginalPlantMode.jpg/180px-Botanica_OriginalPlantMode.jpg<--pre-technorganic http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/0/06/Botanica5.jpg/180px-Botanica5.jpg<--technorganic

Again, I don't see her tree mode as being any more or less absurd than other Beast Machines Maximals. She transforms into a technorganic tree that is capable of locomotion and -- HOLY POOP ON A STICK! -- I just realised which planet Botanica must've landed on where she and her crew acquired sentient tree modes!!

http://www.secretmuseum.com/blog/archives/ents.jpg
MIDDLE EARTH!! :D

[SilverDragon]

The Beast Wars alarm clock squirrel with the big ballsack.

I agree. In a cartoon where everyone transformed into real animals (okay, there were the Blendtrons, but they're excused since they're minions of Unicron), we get this giant raccoon with an alarm in it with giant freakin' balls.

[dirge]

Heinlad's alt mode isn't absurd. It does need to be taken in context, however. He transforms into a Tanuki - a racoon-like animal endemic to Japan. They have huge testicles. Granted, they don't have built in alarm clocks, but the tanuki is pretty much as you'd except of a tanuki toy.

Sofaman's example of Refute is a much better example of a nothing alt mode. It's not a fortlift, it's not a clamp, it's what happens when the designer works while under the influence of illegal substances.

[SofaMan]

http://www.secretmuseum.com/blog/archives/ents.jpg
MIDDLE EARTH!! :D

Hurhur. :p

[jaydisc]

Heinlad's alt mode isn't absurd. It does need to be taken in context, however. He transforms into a Tanuki - a racoon-like animal endemic to Japan. They have huge testicles. Granted, they don't have built in alarm clocks, but the tanuki is pretty much as you'd except of a tanuki toy.

Firstly, if you choose to excuse the absurdity of the testicles due to anatomical correctness, you only exaggerate the claim of absurdity for the clock.

Secondly, I'm not sure anatomical correctness can excuse absurdity. Mammoth's can have three foot long penises. If Big Convoy had genitalia, I'd consider him absurd too.

[GoktimusPrime]

*goes to Google* Okay, that's like 9.1m...

Anyway, it's not meant to just be a biologically correct tanuki. He has two variant tanuki modes, the one on all fours is more representative of a real tanuki - and in that stance the testicles aren't that visible. The other one is the tanuki from popular Japanese mythology - stands upright and carries a gourd of sake and a ledger (note: real tanuki don't carry ledgers or drink sake ;)). It's an extremely popular icon in Japanese culture that is very endearing to kids in Japan.

Real tanuki:
http://www.uf.a.u-tokyo.ac.jp/hokuen/gallery/tanuki.jpg

Pottery statue of a mythological tanuki:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Tanuki_pottery_statue.jpg/180px-Tanuki_pottery_statue.jpg

Tanuki holding its enlarged scrotum in a print by 19th Century Ukiyo-e artist Tsukioka Yoshitoshi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Yoshitoshi_Rainy_Day_Tanuki.jpg/200px-Yoshitoshi_Rainy_Day_Tanuki.jpg

Tanuki stretching their testicles as parachutes:
http://accel10.mettre-put-idata.over-blog.com/0/59/05/61/delires/tanuki2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_HfqJ6nGCE)　<--click to view trailer video
(Heisei Tanuki Gassen Ponpoko - from Studio Ghibli, creators of Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle & Princess Mononoke)

So in a Japanese cultural context, it makes sense. Just as we put boxing gloves on kangaroos - real kangaroos don't wear boxing gloves and in fact, while kangaroos do box, they don't actually punch. They use their arms to claw/scratch and typically stand on their tails and deliver double-kicks (as kangaroos are unable to swing their legs indepedently of each other, that's why they never walk, only hop/jump). If you ever look at a kangaroo's paws, especially on a male, you can see these razor-sharp claws that would make it impossible for them to form a fist but are extremely potent slashing weapons.

Star Upper's kangaroo mode is also based on the mythological boxing kangaroo.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/5/58/Boxing-kangaroo2.gif/180px-Boxing-kangaroo2.gifhttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/rooformer.jpg

The alarm clock thing is kinda strange, but it makes sense in context of his Time-Freeze ability. And it's also a pretty cool gimmick for that toy. :)

[Gutsman Heavy]

Pom Poko is awesome! they beat the crap out of people with their nads and are addicted to red bull!

[Sky Shadow]

Mammoth's can have three foot long penises.

Wow. That's really short.

:D

[Pulse]

It feels like I'm getting my TFs & National Geographic lesson at the same time... :D

[Autocon]

huh wait go back to the kangaroo koala transformer?:confused:

[Gutsman Heavy]

huh wait go back to the kangaroo koala transformer?:confused:

don't get excited, its not a toy :(

[GoktimusPrime]

Star Upper (the kangaroo) was designed by a Transfan though. It was a winning entry from a competition - the winner got some prizes with his/her design to be used as a non-toy character. I think Archadys and Mach Kick were toys created by winning fan-designs though. :)

[SilverDragon]

Star Upper (the kangaroo) was designed by a Transfan though. It was a winning entry from a competition - the winner got some prizes with his/her design to be used as a non-toy character. I think Archadys and Mach Kick were toys created by winning fan-designs though. :)

So was Bazooka, the neon orange Ankylosaurus.

Those fan designs were weird. And also cool in a unique way.

[MV75]

Megabolt megatron transforms into a giant head with legs... looks more like a big fat tick.:p

Megabolt rules when used as fort maxs head. :)

Most useless?
I nominate cybertron laserbeak.

Alt mode is a bomb. C'mon, a bomb of all things. You wouldn't want to screw up that one shot at using the alt modes primary function would you?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l186/mv75/Clb.jpg

[BigTransformerTrev]

Easy-Peasy to answer:



Injector & Ejector


A loinfish-hornet, and a toaster.... c'mon :rolleyes::D:rolleyes:





Megabolt rules when used as fort maxs head. :)

Most useless?
I nominate cybertron laserbeak.

Alt mode is a bomb. C'mon, a bomb of all things. You wouldn't want to screw up that one shot at using the alt modes primary function would you?



I wonder if thats where they got the idea for Fulcrum from IDW's MTMTE? Does that make Cybertron: Laserbeak a K-Class Decepticon?

[GoktimusPrime]

Holy thread necromancy, Batman! :eek: (my daughter hadn't even been born yet last time I posted here! :eek:)

*ahem* Yes, the Fuzors were a strange concept... like Transformers meet Wuzzles. I don't think a lionfish/hornet is necessarily any better or worse than most other Fuzor concepts (a hammerhead shark/eagle is just as bizzare) -- but the execution of the toy is certainly the worst.

I like the idea of a toaster as an alt mode! It really drives in that whole "robots in disguise" concept of Transformers alt modes -- I'd really love to see more everyday objects as alt modes, not just vehicles and animals all the time. That's why I wish they'd make a Dispensor action figure. But you look at toys like say G1 Soundwave, Blaster, the Cassettes and Reflector --- they all transformed into objects that you could find in your home. Heck, even Megatron and Browning (not most homes, but some homes with legal ownership of course ;)). That's also what I really liked about Real Gear Robots -- mobile phone, camera, portable game device, MP3 player etc. It really evokes that "they live among us" feeling for the Transformers. :D And conceptually I think even a lot of the "Label" series Transformers work that way too, particularly Music Label and Device Label (although the USB TFs are really horribly designed; and they're all overpriced IMHO). Sport Label and Capbots are weird, but still works along the same idea (I'd probably like them more if they weren't Optimus Primes/Megatrons and instead made them new unique characters; ditto the mouses as Grimlock/Trypticon). Device Label Blaster was a neat idea as a laptop -- I reckon Hasbro missed a good opportunity with that idea by not making Brains into a toy for DOTM. :( Conceptually speaking we saw how deadly Laserbeak was in DOTM by being able to transform into all sorts of household and office devices -- photocopier/printer, flat screen TV, pink Bumblebee (cos who doesn't have one of those lying around? :rolleyes: :p) etc. It screwed around with rendering it as a toy though.

Even before then we had movie Frenzy who infiltrated Air Force One as a CD player and later was able to follow Mikaela by transforming into her mobile phone; which of course later gave him access inside Sector 7's base and allowed him to take action to freeing Megatron and for other Decepticons to rally at his position. I think it'd be seriously cool to have more Transformers that just transformed into every day objects that you could find in a home or office.

Yeah I know that Ejector suffers from a weird looking Gremlin robot mode... but as far as the alt mode is concerned, I reckon it's awesome! I scooped Ejector up as soon as I saw him in stores! :D It's a shame that toy pegwarmed as I thought it was one of the better toys that came out of ROTF. Loads better than Supreme Crap Class Devastator. ;)

[BigTransformerTrev]

Yeah I know that Ejector suffers from a weird looking Gremlin robot mode... but as far as the alt mode is concerned, I reckon it's awesome! I scooped Ejector up as soon as I saw him in stores! :D It's a shame that toy pegwarmed as I thought it was one of the better toys that came out of ROTF. Loads better than Supreme Crap Class Devastator. ;)

Hey - I never said I didn't buy him ;) I thought it funny how the power cord turned into a little tail :D

[CBratron]

Take your pick of any fuzor.

[Jetfire in the sky]

I'm going for a giant flying hand of RiD Megatron and Galvatron. Seriously WTF:confused::confused:

[Golden Phoenix]

I'm going for a giant flying hand of RiD Megatron and Galvatron. Seriously WTF:confused::confused:

Sometimes you just need to epically backhand someone... :p

[DELTAprime]

I don't know who this guy is in Metroplex's hand but he has a terrible alt mode. Seriously a Popsicle is so stupid.

http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/190/r_metroplex-302.jpg

[CBratron]

True but the topic asks for absurd, not stupid.

[GoktimusPrime]

Hey - I never said I didn't buy him ;) I thought it funny how the power cord turned into a little tail :D
Yeah, I think that's kewl. I also really like how the plug itself is actually the Australian power plug type (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_3112), as opposed to the plug type used in North America and Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector). So Ejector is actually an Australian toaster! :D

I'm going for a giant flying hand of RiD Megatron and Galvatron. Seriously WTF:confused::confused:
lol, so true. :)

[BigTransformerTrev]

I'm going for a giant flying hand of RiD Megatron and Galvatron. Seriously WTF:confused::confused:

Ha! Don't know which is more embarrassing - that I didn't think of that or that that figure is sitting on my shelf and I STILL didn't think of it :p

Mabybe Ambulon from MTMTE shouldn't complain too much, at least he turns into a whole leg and wouldn't be used by Trypticon to scratch himself ;)

[GoktimusPrime]

Action Masters have the worst alt modes of all... nothing! :p <major.suckage>
The Action Master Elites are pretty horrible too; just bent over robots with awful colour schemes. Eewww...

Scrounge <--- a wheel.

And I'm gonna say it -- G1 Scourge. Seriously... until I saw him appear in Transformers The Movie, I thought he was a boat. And I often wondered why the catalogue placed him with the "Decepticon Jets." Honestly -- did everyone instantly recognise his alt mode as a jet before he appeared in the cartoon, comics etc? :confused:

[BigTransformerTrev]

Action Masters have the worst alt modes of all... nothing! :p <major.suckage>
The Action Master Elites are pretty horrible too; just bent over robots with awful colour schemes. Eewww...

Scrounge <--- a wheel.

And I'm gonna say it -- G1 Scourge. Seriously... until I saw him appear in Transformers The Movie, I thought he was a boat. And I often wondered why the catalogue placed him with the "Decepticon Jets." Honestly -- did everyone instantly recognise his alt mode as a jet before he appeared in the cartoon, comics etc? :confused:

If I recall what it said on his box, he is meant to be some kind of hovercraft isn't he?

[GoktimusPrime]

Which only compounded my confusion, cos I thought they meant "hovercraft" as in like what Seaspray transforms into... but apparently it's "hovercraft" as in a craft that flies and hovers... gah.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Yeah I know that Ejector suffers from a weird looking Gremlin robot mode... but as far as the alt mode is concerned, I reckon it's awesome! I scooped Ejector up as soon as I saw him in stores! :D It's a shame that toy pegwarmed as I thought it was one of the better toys that came out of ROTF. Loads better than Supreme Crap Class Devastator. ;)
I love Ejector. not only is he a toaster, you can tell that he is evil and would burn your toast because he looks like a mini satan. Three pronged tail, goat legs, crazy ass face and even has little horns on his head.

And flaemthrowers.

I don't know who this guy is in Metroplex's hand but he has a terrible alt mode. Seriously a Popsicle is so stupid.
<img snip>
Thats Gari Gari Kun.

Rather existentially, he comes with a popsicle that he can hold as well.

[Sinnertwin]

If I recall what it said on his box, he is meant to be some kind of hovercraft isn't he?

Transforms from Hovercraft to robot and back.
As for why he's displayed with the jets, although not being one, he and Cyclonus take the places of Skywarp and Thundercracker in the '86 box assortments. This is also reflected in the catalogue/checklist image. Down on the bottom right we see Starscream, Dirge, Thrust, Ramjet, Cyclonus and Scourge all together.

[Jetfire in the sky]

Thats Gari Gari Kun.

Rather existentially, he comes with a popsicle that he can hold as well.

LMAO!!! Classic:D

Also, I thought Scourge was a futuristic Hovercraft when I saw him back in the day, just thought that as he could "fly" (hover) they put him with the jets. :p Actually is he the first Shellformer?

[SMHFConvoy]

I've always looked at G1 Scourge and thought, "Vampire Christopher Lee that transforms into a coffin."

[Jetfire in the sky]

I've always looked at G1 Scourge and thought, "Vampire Christopher Lee that transforms into a coffin."

LOL :D