2017 Titans Return toys revealed

[MayzaPrime]

Sixshot
Optimus
Kickback
Hotrod....

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

So much awesome

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/07/28/cybertron-con-legends-kickback-320521

[morg176]

That hot rod looks awesome. Ill be buying that one. Ptero's add on seems a bit 'underdone' though

[Paulbot]

Kickback finally... but really Kickback, Shrapnel and Bombshell all look like they are from different toylines.

Sixshot... well there's some added poseability because otherwise it looks the same as the original Sixshot (not in a good way).

Easy pass on OctaneOptimus Prime

[SuspectimusPrime]

The Insecticons and Decepticon Triple Changers are destined to never be released in the same line.

[SharkyMcShark]

So Prime is obviously meant to be Octane and Megatron is obviously meant to be Blitzwing.

I think that switch up works better for Megatron - that figure looks impressive.

Megatron and Hot Rod are the first main line Has Tak figures to interest me in the last three years.

[doublespy]

Dat Sixshot..... Don't care if he's just G1 engineering with better articulation. At the leader price point you get 6 decent modes. I'd guy that in a heart beat. If they some the modes people would be whining anyway. Even 3rd party companies don't dare to move away from the core engineering on a six changer.
Also like how the "submarine mode" is just gun mode upside down.

I'll be getting the voyager Optimus as well. Looks like the most complex Voyager mold so far in TR.

[DELTAprime]

As someone that normally only buys the Takara Tomy versions I wondering if the Triple Changer Optimus and Megatron will see a TT release or if they will be released as Blitzwing and Octane.

Lol at the identical Battle Car and Tank modes on Six Shot. Obviously someone forgot that Six Shot's robot mode counts and added a Tank mode to make six alt modes instead of the normal 5 alt + robot.

I never was happy with my Henkei Rodimus so I'm looking forward to this new one, just wish he wasn't a Head Master. I really wound have liked Target Masters in addition to Head Masters.

[Lord_Zed]

Awesome a Fangry toy! Not much of one, but I'll take what I can get.

I'm not really feeling the other guys though, I don't really see the need for yet another Megs, Prime and Hotrod. It's nice to have a Sixshot, but boy is he boxy looking, not sure I wanna spend the big bucks on him.

Kickback is nice, but so small.




So Prime is obviously meant to be Octane and Megatron is obviously meant to be Blitzwing.

I think that switch up works better for Megatron - that figure looks impressive.

Megatron and Hot Rod are the first main line Has Tak figures to interest me in the last three years.

Does anyone think they should colour the alt-modes like Megs and Prime's Action master bases? That would be novel.

[Bidoofdude]

Kickback looks rad, about time we got him. I like Hot Rod more than I used to, the headmaster is rather cartoon-accurate. Not sure if I can justify replacing RTS Hot Rod.

[reillyd]

Can anyone identify this blue guy between the Sixshots (http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1469767384-x-cybertroncon-booth-007.jpg) ? There are wheels on his shoulders and forearms, and the toy is an unpainted proto by the looks of it, so colour doesn't give the identity away. Can't be hotrod as the chest is different, or is it mistransformed?

[doublespy]

Official renders (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/official-images-transformers-titans-return-kickback-g2-optimus-hot-rod-sixshot-and-more/36003/)

Six Shot's Titan Master has the kanji of "six" on the forehead. Love it.

[griffin]

Can anyone identify this blue guy between the Sixshots (http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1469767384-x-cybertroncon-booth-007.jpg) ? There are wheels on his shoulders and forearms, and the toy is an unpainted proto by the looks of it, so colour doesn't give the identity away. Can't be hotrod as the chest is different, or is it mistransformed?

It's just a pre-production Sixshot.

[Megatran]

Can anyone identify this blue guy between the Sixshots (http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1469767384-x-cybertroncon-booth-007.jpg) ? There are wheels on his shoulders and forearms, and the toy is an unpainted proto by the looks of it, so colour doesn't give the identity away. Can't be hotrod as the chest is different, or is it mistransformed?
Looks to be a slight redeco of the Sixshot mould. The top of the shoulders are rotated 180 degrees.

EDIT: What griffin said.

[GoktimusPrime]

I saw someone post a criticism of this toy saying that it just looks like a G1 Sixshot with articulated limbs. But honestly... what more does it need to be? The robot articulation will no doubt also be present in the puma mode, and vehicles don't need articulation (unless it's an articulated lorry or bus... which none of Sixshot's modes are). :rolleyes:

[DELTAprime]

Looks to be a slight redeco of the Sixshot mould. The top of the shoulders are rotated 180 degrees.

The shoulder pauldrons rotate on G1 Six Shot for transformation, since this is based on G1 mould I would bet the same thing is going on here.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm in for Kickback, to complete another set of Insecticlones.

Sixshot too, if I can ever find a cheap used one.

Possibly up for the eventual Octane, maybe Blitzwing retools. Octane more than Blitzwing.

[philby]

about time for kickback :) i really like my legends bombshell and the other guy, shrapnel? so it is nice to finally get that completed.

[doublespy]

They actually brought the wrong head (retooled Greatshot head I would assume), and improvised a Play-doh mask on the spot.:p

[Lord_Zed]

I saw someone post a criticism of this toy saying that it just looks like a G1 Sixshot with articulated limbs. But honestly... what more does it need to be? The robot articulation will no doubt also be present in the puma mode, and vehicles don't need articulation (unless it's an articulated lorry or bus... which none of Sixshot's modes are). :rolleyes:

A modern re-imagining of a 30 year old toy, rather than a G1 slavish remake with articulation.

Don't get me wrong, I know that most collectors will love this and want things to be as close to the source as possible which is great, but it does nothing for me. I miss the days when CHUG toys had a touch more ingenuity in their designs.

[doublespy]

Seeing that Shogo Hasui designed it, he may have treated it as a Masterpiece Six Shot project, a la CW Devastator.

Since he moved to the overseas team, we've been getting some fantastic G1 homages, rather than updates.

[griffin]

I saw someone post a criticism of this toy saying that it just looks like a G1 Sixshot with articulated limbs. But honestly... what more does it need to be? The robot articulation will no doubt also be present in the puma mode, and vehicles don't need articulation (unless it's an articulated lorry or bus... which none of Sixshot's modes are). :rolleyes:

That's the thing here though, if you change too much of its design/appearance, it might not be able to look or transform much like the original it is supposed to be homaging. I'd rather have Sixshot look like a clone of the original with the ability to actually do awesome posing and playing, than the mess that is that new Optimus... I mean, that's supposed to be a plane?
(I realise it is likely to be a "pre-redeco" of an Octane toy to get the mould to sell in decent quantities first as an iconic character, but man that plane mode is terrible... especially considering the standards they've been reaching on the look of the alt-modes for Generations toys in the last few years.)

[Paulbot]

A modern re-imagining of a 30 year old toy, rather than a G1 slavish remake with articulation.

Don't get me wrong, I know that most collectors will love this and want things to be as close to the source as possible which is great, but it does nothing for me. I miss the days when CHUG toys had a touch more ingenuity in their designs.

This is true. I looked at the first pics from the toyshow that appeared on Twitter and I legit could not tell if it was reveal of a new Sixshot toy or just the original (which through multiple rereleases is not hard to get). Sometimes G1 accuracy is too much of a good thing.

I am starting to look at most of these TM toys as something new, like a different generation of CHUG rather than a continuation. And it's been 10 years since Classics came about so many generational change is needed or should be expected?

There's a bunch of these new guys that look good but have no need for a headmaster gimmick other than that's the gimmick of the day.

[doublespy]

Voyager Prime/Octane mold design sketch and real life references.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/scorer24/IMG_4714_zpst8d6ggja.jpg (http://s893.photobucket.com/user/scorer24/media/IMG_4714_zpst8d6ggja.jpg.html)

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/scorer24/IMG_4713_zpsbvbftbtv.jpg (http://s893.photobucket.com/user/scorer24/media/IMG_4713_zpsbvbftbtv.jpg.html)

[CBratron]

about time for kickback :) i really like my legends bombshell and the other guy, shrapnel? so it is nice to finally get that completed.

And we can stop using that Generations deluxe Kickback.

[doublespy]

TM Revolver's inspiration. (https://twitter.com/snakas/status/758991067584659456)

Well done Mr.Hasui, well done sir

[prjkt]

Trypticon.
Hot Rod.
Six Shot.
Kick Back.

All will (eventually) be mine. I don't mind Megatron too much, but Optimus may be a pass. As Blitzwing and Octane those moulds might be worth it, as my Gen. GDO Octane is easily the worst of the Triplechangers I own. But still looks like he got the short end of the stick...

Bumblebee looks pretty sweet too

[GoktimusPrime]

A modern re-imagining of a 30 year old toy, rather than a G1 slavish remake with articulation.

Don't get me wrong, I know that most collectors will love this and want things to be as close to the source as possible which is great, but it does nothing for me. I miss the days when CHUG toys had a touch more ingenuity in their designs.
This is true. I looked at the first pics from the toyshow that appeared on Twitter and I legit could not tell if it was reveal of a new Sixshot toy or just the original (which through multiple rereleases is not hard to get). Sometimes G1 accuracy is too much of a good thing.

I am starting to look at most of these TM toys as something new, like a different generation of CHUG rather than a continuation. And it's been 10 years since Classics came about so many generational change is needed or should be expected?

There's a bunch of these new guys that look good but have no need for a headmaster gimmick other than that's the gimmick of the day.
^Totes agree, which is why I'm being quite selective with Titans Return. I'm skipping all the characters for which I already have a CHUGUR toy for. I've already seen TR Soundwave and Galvatron in stores and I passed on both of them. The Headmaster gimmick does nothing for me on these toys (I think that "flavour of the day" is a good assessment).

I was initially tempted when I saw images of TR Blaster, but then when I discovered that he's a Headmaster I changed my mind. My Generations FoC Blaster will do fine for me. Okay, he doesn't transform into a tape deck, but meh. I can always use my MP Tracks' Blaster accessory and pretend that my Voyager Generations Blaster transforms into it (with mass shrinking!). :D Ya know, hold the robot and start shaking it making the transforming noise, then you close your eyes and put the robot out of the way and then put the little MP accessory in front of you and open your eyes -- presto! :p ;) Besides, I already do this w/ my ML Soundwave... I have him "transform" into my Smallest Soundwave and pretend that he mass-shrank during transformation. :D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Soundwave/th_mpsoundwave28_zps3d2f118f.jpg

I'm not a fan of how Sixshot is going to be a Headmaster. Although I'm tempted to repurpose the Titan Master as Daniel Witwicky. ;)

[griffin]

(created new News topic for these 2017 Titans Return toys)

I find it odd, and somewhat concerning, that Hasbro is now revealing 2017 wave 1, while 2016 now looks to only have two waves... the second of which is already showing up in parts of the world.
So is that it for Generations for the rest of this year, until the 2017 toys start showing up in December? Will stores have to keep re-ordering the same 1st or 2nd wave of toys, or shelfwarm them, for the next four months?
There's not a lot going for RID at the moment, so it seems that Hasbro has put Transformers on the backburner a little this year, in favour of other toylines for 2016.

[griffin]

A sneak peak at next year's Trypticon from Cybertron Con (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/07/29/cybertron-con-first-look-titan-trypticon-320765).

[Lord_Zed]

Wow! I'm a bit wary of these Titan class toys, but that Trypticon is looking pretty awesome, though they always do though in grey prototype form until they use some ugly colour plastic.

I really like the little Titanmaster doorways. This toy looks like it could actually be designed to interact with the little guys from the ground up rather than being re-worked mold like Fort Max, which is Ironic given Trypticon's not exactly a Headmaster.

I look forward to seeing the whole toy.

[GoktimusPrime]

Trypticon's shoulder looks pretty hairy. Oh wait... :p

[DaptoDog]

Wow! I'm a bit wary of these Titan class toys, but that Trypticon is looking pretty awesome, though they always do though in grey prototype form until they use some ugly colour plastic.

I really like the little Titanmaster doorways. This toy looks like it could actually be designed to interact with the little guys from the ground up rather than being re-worked mold like Fort Max, which is Ironic given Trypticon's not exactly a Headmaster.

I look forward to seeing the whole toy.

Yes the base mode certainly looks to have more playability than MetroMaximus. The Dino mode also looks very promising, and big!

[SuspectimusPrime]

I wonder if Trypticon will come with his own TM's to interact with? If so, what role/use would it/they play?

[Deonasis]

I am pretty happy with that Octane mold. It looks far better than the CHUG version.

I am glad HasTak is thinking creatively and sharing/reusing/retooling the molds now instead of pure repaints. It saves them costs, keeps the designs simple to use, but still can look vastly different. No other line really has to consider transformation when retooling a mold.

I don't mind the headmaster gimmick being applied to non-headmasters. It is a fun gimmick and makes a whole lotta sense to compliment the titan class figures.



Does anyone think they should colour the alt-modes like Megs and Prime's Action master bases? That would be novel.


YES. The alt modes work and it would be interesting how accurate the colours would be.

Megatron: http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/5e/Neutro-fusiontanktoy1.jpg
Optimus: http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/8/88/ActionMasterPrime_toy.jpg

[griffin]

A small official image of the 2017 Doublecross toy has been found (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/08/19/new-look-titans-return-doublecross-321780).

This was rather odd, kinda like the accidental reveal of Titans Return at BotCon 2015 (the banners at the Hasbro exhibit), the ToysRUs in Canada have included images of 2017 toys for a current sale... probably mixing up 2017 official images for 2016 official images on their advertisement image (to non-fans, they are all Transformers toys and wouldn't probably know what is currently out).

[Batfan007]

Where is there anything about Trypticon?

I've seen no pics, nothing. What am I missing?

I looked at the same stuff on TFW everyone else did.

[prjkt]

there've been pics of Trypticon's test shot out there, and some artwork too

here's one such thread http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-titan-class-trypticon-revealed/36015/

[SMHFConvoy]

Can anyone identify this blue guy between the Sixshots (http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/uploads/1469767384-x-cybertroncon-booth-007.jpg) ? There are wheels on his shoulders and forearms, and the toy is an unpainted proto by the looks of it, so colour doesn't give the identity away. Can't be hotrod as the chest is different, or is it mistransformed?

It's a test shot/ prototype

[GoktimusPrime]

Oooh, Highbrow! :D

[Ozgardian]

What is this thread, you guys trying to give me a premature heart attack. Now my anxiety levels are at overload.:eek:

Can anyone confirm if Punch is set for a Titans Return release or is it just rumour at the moment? ...& if he is confirmed will he come with 1 or 2 heads/counterparts?

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Can anyone confirm if Punch is set for a Titans Return release or is it just rumour at the moment? ...& if he is confirmed will he come with 1 or 2 heads/counterparts?

Slightly unfounded rumour? There's a TFCC (I think?) Counterpunch but that's it.

Unless I'm wrong!

[Ozgardian]

I have the TFCC one, no. http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/Devastator21/Mobile%20Uploads/Chromedome-Robot_zpswlm1v96m.jpg is the one I'm referring to if I got the link right. Saw it on the Seibertron pub forums by accident.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

I have the TFCC one, no. http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/Devastator21/Mobile%20Uploads/Chromedome-Robot_zpswlm1v96m.jpg is the one I'm referring to if I got the link right. Saw it on the Seibertron pub forums by accident.

Oh, I was referring to this guy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/7/70/TFSS-5.0-Counterpunch.jpg/300px-TFSS-5.0-Counterpunch.jpg) who isn't out yet? That punch you linked to looks hell like a digibash though.

[Ozgardian]

O.k, I think you're right. Thankyou for clarifying Ploughman.:)

[Batfan007]

Oh, I was referring to this guy (http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/7/70/TFSS-5.0-Counterpunch.jpg/300px-TFSS-5.0-Counterpunch.jpg) who isn't out yet? That punch you linked to looks hell like a digibash though.

It is, it even says digibash in the description

[Batfan007]

there've been pics of Trypticon's test shot out there, and some artwork too

here's one such thread http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-titan-class-trypticon-revealed/36015/

Geez I did see that . It's so low quality I can't tell if it's a prototype or just a cgi render of a possible prototype. The way people were talking I though they had seen real pics that actually tell you something.
That pic was like beige city former.

Thanks for link

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Possible Broadside reveal (https://www.facebook.com/TransformersNeverDie/photos/a.629496500464227.1073741828.478564562224089/1077671358980070/?type=3&theater) (Alpha Trion retool):

http://i.imgur.com/55UngXf.jpg

[reillyd]

Alpha Trion transformed into a fugly looking lion - not seeing how you could remold that into a plane without HUGE parts replacements.

[MayzaPrime]

According to a few sites... looks like we might be getting a Ramhorn, Legends SeaSpray, deluxe Optimus and another Legends Cosmos

TFW2005 (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/08/28/titans-return-new-listings-legends-cosmos-seaspray-voyager-blitzwing-octane-324058)

[MayzaPrime]

Possible Broadside reveal (https://www.facebook.com/TransformersNeverDie/photos/a.629496500464227.1073741828.478564562224089/1077671358980070/?type=3&theater) (Alpha Trion retool):

http://i.imgur.com/55UngXf.jpg

Preety disappointed that Broadside isnt a leader class...

[SuspectimusPrime]

According to a few sites... looks like we might be getting a Ramhorn, Legends SeaSpray, deluxe Optimus and another Legends Cosmos

TFW2005 (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/08/28/titans-return-new-listings-legends-cosmos-seaspray-voyager-blitzwing-octane-324058)

Yet another Legends-scale Cosmos? The Generations one was quite spot on and even if they can improve on the design, isn't it a bit too early? :confused: He's unique as a character so it's not like there's a huge repainting/remoulding opportunity.

[1AZRAEL1]

Seaspray would be good, but another Cosmos? Wonder if they'll just use the same mold again. The 2 previous ones were great as they were

[Bidoofdude]

Hello Seaspray. :)

[Lord_Zed]

Possible Broadside reveal (https://www.facebook.com/TransformersNeverDie/photos/a.629496500464227.1073741828.478564562224089/1077671358980070/?type=3&theater) (Alpha Trion retool):

http://i.imgur.com/55UngXf.jpg

So Hasbro are going to make every triple changer (including ancient Prime's who never were triple changers) into a Headmaster except the triple changers who actually are Headmasters?

I'm going to have to shout out to the 3rd parties here, please make me some Horrorcons, cause Hasbro seems to have dropped the ball there!

[GoktimusPrime]

So Hasbro are going to make every triple changer (including ancient Prime's who never were triple changers) into a Headmaster except the triple changers who actually are Headmasters?

I'm going to have to shout out to the 3rd parties here, please make me some Horrorcons, cause Hasbro seems to have dropped the ball there!
As much as I dislike illicit unlicensed third party knock offs...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_swerverightyouknow_zps2k1j11bm.jpg

[Golden Phoenix]

So Hasbro are going to make every triple changer (including ancient Prime's who never were triple changers) into a Headmaster except the triple changers who actually are Headmasters?

They are going to do all the triple changer headmasters as Pretenders.

Any Triple Changer Pretenders are going to be attempted, albeit I'm not sure how, as Action Masters.

[Batfan007]

As much as I dislike illicit unlicensed third party knock offs...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/meme_swerverightyouknow_zps2k1j11bm.jpg

You consider original molds KO's?
I think we are using different dictionaries.

To me a KO or bootleg is a copy of an existing mold, not an original mold based on any existing character or thing.

I mean if you made a sculpture of Batman by hand, would you call it a "KO", I mean did you pay for the license?
By that definition all art of existing properties whether amateur or professional is "KO"?

[griffin]

He's not referring to a pure Knock Off that you are describing, but unauthorised toys that are essentially "knocking off" the likeness of official Transformers characters.

[Lord_Zed]

They are going to do all the triple changer headmasters as Pretenders.

Any Triple Changer Pretenders are going to be attempted, albeit I'm not sure how, as Action Masters.

Cool!, I'm also hanging out for Micromaster Predaking and Unicron!

[Batfan007]

He's not referring to a pure Knock Off that you are describing, but unauthorised toys that are essentially "knocking off" the likeness of official Transformers characters.

I get it, I just prefer specific language:
Got into a pointless disagreement over at Seibertron with some people who could not distinguish between

*official products from has/tak
*original molds from 3P that don't copy another mold, but may be of an existing character
*straight copy of an existing mold (which may or may not resemble the same character)
*straight copy of an existing mold including head, character likeness, color scheme etc.
*Factory defects of licensed products which may have be sold legally or illegally

It just shits me when people lump all these into one category, I mean it takes the same amount of time and effort to be more specific and to me is more effective at communicating what is being discussed.
I live in Australia, so in casual conversation I get a knock-off can mean anything, but in the very fetishized world of transformers, where there are so many similar products, variants, I do greatly appreciate more descriptive language.

[griffin]

Some photos of the packaging of the next set of Deluxes have been found (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/21/transformers-titans-return-wave-3-deluxe-package-images-325128), revealing some new names.
Autobot Hot Rod with Firedrive (lost Firebolt already?).
Autobot Twinferno (same name used for the recent Tiny Titan for Gen1 Doublecross) with Daburu (the first half of the Gen1 Japanese name).
Triggerhappy with Blowpipe (both are their Gen1 names).
Breakaway (Getaway - looks more like Carzap) with Throttle (is actually the name for a Decepticon Gen1 Powermaster Nebulan).

These are said to be out in November.

[UltimateGalvatron]

Some photos of the packaging of the next set of Deluxes have been found (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/21/transformers-titans-return-wave-3-deluxe-package-images-325128), revealing some new names.
Autobot Hot Rod with Firedrive (lost Firebolt already?).
Autobot Twinferno (same name used for the recent Tiny Titan for Gen1 Doublecross) with Daburu (the first half of the Gen1 Japanese name).
Triggerhappy with Blowpipe (both are their Gen1 names).
Breakaway (Getaway - looks more like Carzap) with Throttle (is actually the name for a Decepticon Gen1 Powermaster Nebulan).

These are said to be out in November.

I like Hot Rod and Trigger Happy, and not a fan of the other two.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Twinferno is actually a pretty clever name. I think I like it more than doublecross!

[Lord_Zed]

Triggerhappy and Doublecross look OK, but not a huge fan of Hotrod. and Getaway feels a bit forced.

Seriously though Twinferno? I thought we had some terrible names before, but this one makes Masters of The Universe names look smart. :confused:


Twinferno is actually a pretty clever name. I think I like it more than doublecross!

We must agree to disagree on this one! I feel only rage toward this naming choice, Doublecross is at least clever, Twinferno is just smooshing words together, why not just call him Twodragon?.

Or maybe Double Dragon? oh wait copyright...:p

[Handsprime]

New Titan returns toys revealed including broadside, black shadow, and more! (http://tformers.com/nycc-2016-first-look-at-broadside-black-shadow-and-more-transformers/30199/news.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

Hope a tidal wave retool will be made in the future.

[Shirokaze]

My initial thoughts are:
Strange that they're not showing a plane mode for Broadside :confused:
Sky Shadow looks a little too simple
Brawn looks brilliant
Perceptor is surprising and the one I'm most looking foward to. Never thought we'd get one that turned into a microscope again :eek:

[SuspectimusPrime]

Hope Sixshot doesn't suffer from the same head-helmet issues as Galvatron.

[Lint]

Titans return is fast becoming my favourite toyline ever. It's a shame that they've gone all non-earth-mode-masterpiece with Sixshot (same toy, more articulation).

I wonder if we'll see an Octane out of laser prime?

[UltimateGalvatron]

Thoughts

Broadside: FINALLY! My friend, you've finally got yourself a toy! Congrats mate, you look cool as well! Will definitely be picking you up. You even come with little jets for your Aircraft carrier! THAT IS SO COOL!

Black Shadow: Meh. :o Not picking you up, sorry mate. :p

Sixshot: You look almost identical to your G1 Animation Model. I love it. Oh I hope that you will have wing kibble on your final robot mode though... Will pick this guy up for sure!

G2 Prime: Love your robot mode and tankor mode. However your Jet mode suffers from Triple-Changeritis, a weak mode. Will probably pick you up.

Wingthing: I like that you look a lot like your G1 toy, but that is also your greatest flaw, I don't like the G1 Toy. :o Might pick you up for the head, but despite your partners accuracy that isn't really screaming 'buy me!'

Kickback: You are (and have always been) my favourite Insecticon (I had the G1 one growing up :) ) and I definitely want you! (Perhaps even multiples!)

Swoop/Autobot Ptero: Will pick you up, like most Titan Masters though I only like the combined mode.

Repungus: You suffer from the same issues/benefits of Wingthing :o

Tank/Mammoth Titan Master: Don't know who you are but you look good! *EDIT* Your name is Shuffler apparently.

Brawn: You remind me of Cyberverse Commander Class Bulkhead. I like! And that means I won't need to pick up your unneccesary Titan Master figure! :D

Triggerhappy: Can't wait to have you in hand!

Hot Rod: Still want you, but you look a TINY bit disappointing in hand...

Twinferno: Again, refer to Wingthing.

Getaway: Meh. Don't like your colours, glad I didn't pre-order you. I had held up hopes you'd look better in hand, but alas...

Perceptor: Unexpected, but cool! :D Will probably buy you!

RID Stuff: Not buying any of it, don't like the line.

Actually, that RID Autobot Warrior Class Jet guy looks alright.

What are those RID Combiners? 'Combiner Force' I'll wait for reviews of you, you actually look good, but look unarticulated.

Megatron: Hmmmm. Will wait for reviews.

[SharkyMcShark]

Hot Rod looks disappointing.

On the other hand, Triggerhappy looks great!

[MayzaPrime]

Damn you Titan Wars... why are you producing awesome figures that I must buy

[Trent]

Well there's the Overlord mould.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Couple of Q's:

*Does anyone know if Broadside will be a triple changer? He looks like he has plenty of jet-kibble on his robot mode but cant find a pic of him in that state. Also, can anyone tell if he is Voyager or Leader size? Compared to Sky Shadow he looks smaller so will be a bit dissapointed if he is not Leader - but then neither was Sy lynx :rolleyes:

*Sky Shadow - wasnt he both in G1 & Generations a redo of Thunderwing? Why is he rocking what we assume will become a Overlord mold? I hope they are not doing him instead of Overlord completely. I would have thought Flywheels might have gotten a go.

Overall I'm pretty impressed with this TR lineup :)

[prjkt]

Broadside is voyager, has Alpha Trion's feet. All the traditional triple-changers are now the same scale

Much wanted here. Hope I can budget well enough...

[SuspectimusPrime]

*Sky Shadow - wasnt he both in G1 & Generations a redo of Thunderwing? Why is he rocking what we assume will become a Overlord mold? I hope they are not doing him instead of Overlord completely. I would have thought Flywheels might have gotten a go.

Yep, he's aka Black Shadow. A remote reason for giving him a larger class could be because in IDW he's a Phase Sixer along with Sixshot and Overlord?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Broadside is voyager, has Alpha Trion's feet. All the traditional triple-changers are now the same scale

Much wanted here. Hope I can budget well enough...

Like Sky Lynx I would have liked Broadside to be leader class, especially since that would make a Tidal Wave repainted more likely. Oh well, still good to get him in the lineup, but ruins the image I had in my head for a Wreckers display



Yep, he's aka Black Shadow. A remote reason for giving him a larger class could be because in IDW he's a Phase Sixer along with Sixshot and Overlord?

Maybe -it's the only reason I can think of

[SharkyMcShark]

Couple of Q's:

*Does anyone know if Broadside will be a triple changer? He looks like he has plenty of jet-kibble on his robot mode but cant find a pic of him in that state. Also, can anyone tell if he is Voyager or Leader size? Compared to Sky Shadow he looks smaller so will be a bit dissapointed if he is not Leader - but then neither was Sy lynx :rolleyes:

*Sky Shadow - wasnt he both in G1 & Generations a redo of Thunderwing? Why is he rocking what we assume will become a Overlord mold? I hope they are not doing him instead of Overlord completely. I would have thought Flywheels might have gotten a go.

Overall I'm pretty impressed with this TR lineup :)

Broadside will almost certainly be a triple changer - that's the line wide gimmick for the Voyager class in TR.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm impressed, I wasn't expecting much but a lot of those turned out pretty well IMO.
Yep, he's aka Black Shadow. A remote reason for giving him a larger class could be because in IDW he's a Phase Sixer along with Sixshot and Overlord?Possibly, though I'd say it's more likely down to being a fairly easy remold into a relatively obscure character with a name you'd want to keep under trademark if you were a toy company.;) That and the little mini-jet makes for a decent G1 toy homage.

[BigTransformerTrev]

I'm impressed, I wasn't expecting much but a lot of those turned out pretty well IMO.Possibly, though I'd say it's more likely down to being a fairly easy remold into a relatively obscure character with a name you'd want to keep under trademark if you were a toy company.;) That and the little mini-jet makes for a decent G1 toy homage.

I reckon they are doing Sky Shadow before Overlord as many TF fans will want to try out the new mould and grab it but if they had it as Overlord already they wouldn't bother buying a second

[SMHFConvoy]

A second Brawn?

[Lord_Zed]

While none of these guys wow me (aside from Doublecross and Triggerhappy, who I was already in for), It's nice to see a lot of lesser known characters get new toys. Particularly Black Shadow, I liked the old Generations one, but he is a bit small. I have to say though his blocky proportions are not great,but I still might get him considering this is about as good as it gets for a D-lister.

[doublespy]

Just when I wanted to focus on MP. Titan Return happens! Think I'd end up buying more toys than Combiner Wars.

Perceptor is a pleasant surprise. Although I'm not a big fan of the IDW face, but surely TT will fix that.

Broadside is underwhelming for me but still, a very clever of re-cycled engineering.


A second Brawn?

Someone at Hasbro must be a Brawn fan, and I don't mind at all. This Brawn is the best update we've had imo. The 'bot mode proportions are just perfect. And the shield being able to store on the back to give him the proper spare tire backpack is doubly awesome. The Legends scale is continuing to wow me.

Oh and I'll have the Titan Master Brawn driving himself!:p

[MV75]

Where the heck is Gnaw?

[Thurmus]

That air craft carrier looks awesome with the mini planes still on him in robot mode.

Got to get some Sharkticons too.

[prjkt]

Oh and I'll have the Titan Master Brawn driving himself!:p

Heh. Insert "yo dawg" meme here.

[DELTAprime]

All I can say is I hope Black Shadow/Sky Shadow gets a TT release quicker than his Generations toy did.:rolleyes:

[Handsprime]

Offical images up now, (http://tformers.com/nycc-2016-transformers-generations-and-rid-official-images-from-preview-night/30204/news.html) which reveals Broadside's Plane mode.

[UltimateGalvatron]

I would hardly call that a plane mode! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Lint]

Offical images up now, (http://tformers.com/nycc-2016-transformers-generations-and-rid-official-images-from-preview-night/30204/news.html) which reveals Broadside's Plane mode.

Ever faithful to G1, the plane mode is very much indeed the '3rd mode'

I'm still secretly hoping that someone put a lot of effort into a mistransform/attack mode. My impression is that there is no practical reason for all the tail fins to all be facing the wrong way.

[griffin]

That air craft carrier looks awesome with the mini planes still on him in robot mode.

Got to get some Sharkticons too.

I could be mistaken, but I think that those tiny jets are the jet modes of the Aerialbots.

[Handsprime]

I could be mistaken, but I think that those tiny jets are the jet modes of the Aerialbots.

I think you're right, and at that rate we now know how big the carrier mode is!

[BigTransformerTrev]

I could be mistaken, but I think that those tiny jets are the jet modes of the Aerialbots.

Homage to that episode where the Autobots invaded Carbombiya maybe?

Broadsides aeriel mode still looks weird, but a vast improvement over the original. Always thought since his robot mode was so big and his aircraft carrier mode was so huge it would be cool if the aircraft mode was similar size so he could act as transport for the other Wreckers

[M-bot]

I could be mistaken, but I think that those tiny jets are the jet modes of the Aerialbots.

If that's the case, I'm absolutely going to paint them the appropriate colours.

[FatalityPitt]

Only one I'm really keen on is Broadside (and maybe Hot Rod). I told myself I'd stop buying Transformers after collecting the main Headmasters cast (TR Chromedome, Highbrow, Weirdwolf, etc). But after reading up on Broadside, I feel a great deal of sympathy for the character (I like to support the underdogs/late-bloomers), plus, his toy looks really cool and interesting.

[GoktimusPrime]

I think you're right, and at that rate we now know how big the carrier mode is!
And one hell of a gargantuan jet mode! :D

[FatalityPitt]

It could just be my wild imagination, but to me, Broadside's jet mode vaguely reminds me of Dai Atlas's.

http://www.tfu.info/1990/Cybertron/DaiAtlas/daiatlas.htm

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=30204&pic=C0277AS00_346268_TRA_GEN_VOY_TITANS_RETURN_BRO ADSIDE_Jet_Pose1.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20&sl=nycc-2016-transformers-generations-and-rid-official-images-from-preview-night/30204

[prjkt]

I could be mistaken, but I think that those tiny jets are the jet modes of the Aerialbots.

you're not, they are. I read on Seibertron that they took the CAD designs for the CW Aerialbots and shrunk them down

[1AZRAEL1]

It could just be my wild imagination, but to me, Broadside's jet mode vaguely reminds me of Dai Atlas's.

http://www.tfu.info/1990/Cybertron/DaiAtlas/daiatlas.htm

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=30204&pic=C0277AS00_346268_TRA_GEN_VOY_TITANS_RETURN_BRO ADSIDE_Jet_Pose1.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20&sl=nycc-2016-transformers-generations-and-rid-official-images-from-preview-night/30204

I'd be keen on a Dai Atlas

[GoktimusPrime]

It could just be my wild imagination, but to me, Broadside's jet mode vaguely reminds me of Dai Atlas's.

http://www.tfu.info/1990/Cybertron/DaiAtlas/daiatlas.htm

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=30204&pic=C0277AS00_346268_TRA_GEN_VOY_TITANS_RETURN_BRO ADSIDE_Jet_Pose1.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20&sl=nycc-2016-transformers-generations-and-rid-official-images-from-preview-night/30204
Only without a drill. Not sure if I trust Hasbro with retooling a toy with a drill anymore after what they did with Combiner Wars Nosecone. ;)

[Ploughmans Lunch]

Only without a drill. Not sure if I trust Hasbro with retooling a toy with a drill anymore after what they did with Combiner Wars Nosecone. ;)

Maybe Hasbro won't, but maybe there'll be some Japanese toy company who'll possibly do it. I forget the name but apparently they've done something similar to this before. If only I could remember their name, it begins with a T or something...

How embarrassing, I've just totally forgot! Gosh, I've sure got egg on my face.

Tonka maybe?

[FatalityPitt]

Only without a drill. Not sure if I trust Hasbro with retooling a toy with a drill anymore after what they did with Combiner Wars Nosecone. ;)


The CW Nosecone was less impressive tbh, but I thought the UW Nosecone's drill looked alright. I think a Dai Atlas retool (however iffy it might be... ) sounds like something Takara might do..

[Lord_Zed]

Hasbro seems to spend a lot of money making these computer generated official promo shots look good, I wish they could sink those funds into the actual toys. :p


And one hell of a gargantuan jet mode! :D

And yet that would make more sense than mass shifting.

[GoktimusPrime]

The CW Nosecone was less impressive tbh, but I thought the UW Nosecone's drill looked alright. I think a Dai Atlas retool (however iffy it might be... ) sounds like something Takara might do..
Not necessarily. It was Hasbro, not TakaraTOMY, that gave us Generations Black Shadow and the upcoming Combiner Wars Lio Kaiser and Titans Return Black Shadow. Generations Black Shadow was never released in Japan and I've heard to news of TakaraTOMY releasing a UW Lio Kaiser or LG Black Shadow either. It may happen later, but the point is that it's not within the realms of impossibility for Japanese G1 characters to be exclusively released by Hasbro as there is precedent for it.

And yet that would make more sense than mass shifting.
Heli-Carrier, AWAAAAAAAY!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/th_meme_hailhydra_zps3iz37g86.jpg

[Paulbot]

Generations Black Shadow was never released in Japan and I've heard to news of TakaraTOMY releasing a UW Lio Kaiser or LG Black Shadow either. ]

Black Shadow was released as part of the Transformers Adventure line as TAV31 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GN_htUmVc) which used several CHUG figures in it's lineup.

[GoktimusPrime]

Black Shadow was released as part of the Transformers Adventure line as TAV31 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GN_htUmVc) which used several CHUG figures in it's lineup.
I sit corrected :)

[FatalityPitt]

[QUOTE=GoktimusPrime;538896]Not necessarily. It was Hasbro, not TakaraTOMY, that gave us Generations Black Shadow and the upcoming Combiner Wars Lio Kaiser and Titans Return Black Shadow.]

Yes. I still find it bizzare that Hasbro are releasing Lio Kaiser as a platinum ed, and not Takara as a UW set (at least not yet). You'd think Lio Kaiser would have a fairly large fanbase in Japan.. Not complaining at all, I just find it a bit surprising is all.

[prjkt]

I sit corrected :)

it did take a few years to happen, at was put into the Adventures line, rather than Legends, so it's an understandable oversight.

It's interesting to see the split between which older Hasbro figures end up in Legends (Ie Skids) vs which end up in TAV (Black Shadow, Shrapnel etc)- I wonder what the reasoning is?

[Trent]

So the rumour is that Hasbro have completely sold out of Wave 2 TR.

Good if it's true.

[prjkt]

At least Hasbro's US distribution channel has.

This line must be pretty popular

[GoktimusPrime]

The TakaraTOMY equivalents are selling out across Japan too. They were really hard to find (I only managed to get Weirdwolf) and local collectors that I spoke with also said that they were bloody hard to find. Frustrating for collectors, but yeah, good news for the brand. :o

[SuspectimusPrime]

That's good for me to know. My sis is visiting from Japan, and I considered asking her to pick up a few for me. Lucky I didn't send her on a wild goose chase.

[SharkyMcShark]

This line has given me hope for the future of retail Hasbro releases.

I genuinely feel that they're at a level of comfort and familiarity with the budget constraints now that if they ditched the line wide gimmick for the next iteration of Generations that they'd be able to produce a line at the level of the 2008-2010 period of Universe 2.0/Generations 1.0.

Can't wait for Triggerhappy, and will likely pick up Highbrow and Wierdwolf on a whim if I see them.

[BigTransformerTrev]

So the rumour is that Hasbro have completely sold out of Wave 2 TR.

Good if it's true.


At least Hasbro's US distribution channel has.

This line must be pretty popular

Yeah when I read this news I bit the bullet and ordered the Wave 2 deluxes and legends through BBTS. For once I was going wait and hope they would show up locally but given how much they are selling out, chances they would end up in my remote corner of the state became zip.

[MayzaPrime]

Yeah when I read this news I bit the bullet and ordered the Wave 2 deluxes and legends through BBTS. For once I was going wait and hope they would show up locally but given how much they are selling out, chances they would end up in my remote corner of the state became zip.

I have been picking up wave 1 and 2 locally... I still need Chromedome though, and was planning to do the same with wave 3, but given how popular this line is I decided to preorder wave 3 at PC.

[GoktimusPrime]

That's good for me to know. My sis is visiting from Japan, and I considered asking her to pick up a few for me. Lucky I didn't send her on a wild goose chase.
If you want your sister to get you something, it's probably easier to ask her to purchase the stuff off Amazon Japan. Same price as stores but free guaranteed next day delivery.

[SuspectimusPrime]

If you want your sister to get you something, it's probably easier to ask her to purchase the stuff off Amazon Japan. Same price as stores but free guaranteed next day delivery.

Good idea. They've got Amazon Prime so I could make use of it for a few hard to find items. I'll look into it if when we go again next year.

[Batfan007]

Good idea. They've got Amazon Prime so I could make use of it for a few hard to find items. I'll look into it if when we go again next year.

FYI - Amazon Japan has nothing to do with Prime.

Not that Prime, the membership one.


Some prices show different AFTER you add them to cart (there is a also a thread on TFW2005) as apparently the japanese price includes possible tax, but if you add to cart after signing up, you'll see the price for your country.
Also, some items are cheaper on there, some are more expensive for TF, you really have to look at each individual listing.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Some video reviews:

Megatron and Doomshot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMu2wA-4w4o).

Optimus Prime and Diac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFg0ZmYUT0).

Kickback (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3tMF8tqP-k).

Bumblebee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOlBjCp6z50).

Gnaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcDGX0-6pRs).

[DELTAprime]

Hmmm, Megatron doesn't look like hes made from cheap plastic in the video. The NYCC pictures of him looked awful.

[Darkness]

As someone that normally only buys the Takara Tomy versions I wondering if the Triple Changer Optimus and Megatron will see a TT release or if they will be released as Blitzwing and Octane.

Lol at the identical Battle Car and Tank modes on Six Shot. Obviously someone forgot that Six Shot's robot mode counts and added a Tank mode to make six alt modes instead of the normal 5 alt + robot.

I never was happy with my Henkei Rodimus so I'm looking forward to this new one, just wish he wasn't a Head Master. I really wound have liked Target Masters in addition to Head Masters.

I'd like to replace my cloud rodimus with something better for my LLC. TR hotrod being a headmaster is what will probably put me off making this purchase.

[FatalityPitt]

Some video reviews:

Megatron and Doomshot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMu2wA-4w4o).

Optimus Prime and Diac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFg0ZmYUT0).

Kickback (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3tMF8tqP-k).

Bumblebee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOlBjCp6z50).

Gnaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcDGX0-6pRs).

I wasn't going to get either of the Voyagers, but now I'm tempted. Especially since I don't own G1 Optimus or Megatron in Voyager scale (I skipped Combiner Wars and missed out on Classics/Henkei). The Optimus prime would also look great as a black repaint (RiD Scourge).

Bumblebee might be relatively smaller and simplistic, but he fits the bill of how I think Bumblebee should be. I'd probably sell RTS Deluxe Bumbleebee and use the money to get the TR version (plus other things).

[SharkyMcShark]

That Megatron is bought. Instantly. Not even waiting for Blitzwing pre-tool.

I love that they've binned off the stupid helmet/mask feature. I also love how much better the 'empty gun sled/cannon' thing integrates into the figure than the previous figures we've seen.

It's a measure of how into it I am that the fact that it's got stickers doesn't bother me at all (I can't stand stickers normally).

I don't think I've anticipated a retail release quite like this in some time.

[1AZRAEL1]

You're right. He does look sweet. I think I will buy him too.

[DELTAprime]

I'm still not going to get him just because as far as I'm concerned Legends Megatron is MY canonical Megatron for now and don't see the TR Megs unseating LG Megs. But I do want a leader Optimus to go with LG Megs, and no LG Ginrai doesn't count.

[TAAUBlaster]

I'm really impressed with Gnaw. His transformation is pretty nice, and a lot better than I was expecting. I haven't been keeping up, but when are these guys supposed to see release?

[DELTAprime]

I'm really impressed with Gnaw. His transformation is pretty nice, and a lot better than I was expecting. I haven't been keeping up, but when are these guys supposed to see release?

Not sure about locally but BBTS just put up preorders for them so shouldn't be long for US retail.

[TAAUBlaster]

Not sure about locally but BBTS just put up preorders for them so shouldn't be long for US retail.

Cool, thanks. :)

Hope PC gets a big allocation of Gnaws! :o

[BigTransformerTrev]

Not sure about locally but BBTS just put up preorders for them so shouldn't be long for US retail.

They've already sold out of Gnaws

[DELTAprime]

They've already sold out of Gnaws

Theres always Amazon.:p

[Lord_Zed]

I dunno just not feeling it on these guys, particularly that Prime, the idea is cool but the toy in the review somehow ends up looking cheap.

And Diac, I know it's meant to be a homage to Diaclone, but that's the old acronym for the Department of Immigration and Citizenship.

[reillyd]

After watching some of the reviews of Megatron, I'm staying well clear. The stickers are already peeling :(

I'm hoping Takara uses paint apps or better glue!

[BigTransformerTrev]

Theres always Amazon.:p

Id already ordered the legends 3-pack as soon as the listing came up so I'm fine. But I went back a few hours later to order some individual Sharkticons for Army Building and that's when they had sold out

[doublespy]

All of these have really good designs. Love that Gnaw.

Bumblee's canopy opens up a bit differently than I thought but no matter, still a proper Scout sized Bee I've always wanted.

Not really feeling for Megatron. Excellent engineering and love the fact that there's two dedicated seats for TM dudes in tank and jet modes. But he just reminds me of Blitzwing too much.

I'm probably the only one that don't really mind Prime's jet mode. I think it has a goofy futuristic charm to it. Again I thought the engineering is great on these Voyager triple-changers. The designers have really been pushing the design within the confines of a tight budget.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Optimus just looks awful and I sincerely hope that Octane comes out better.

I was quite impressed with Megatron, the design is very good and I can even see it as Megatron. Love the head sculpt. I'd rather wait for Blitzwing, or a better TT colour of Megs, but I do really want that little Megatron!
Gnaw, Bumblebee, Kickback, yes, yes and yes.

Also, does Peaugh just not care anymore? Thise videos were a tad tedious and he sounded bored 97% of the time.

[hYpNoS]

That Megatron is bought. Instantly. Not even waiting for Blitzwing pre-tool.

I love that they've binned off the stupid helmet/mask feature. I also love how much better the 'empty gun sled/cannon' thing integrates into the figure than the previous figures we've seen.

It's a measure of how into it I am that the fact that it's got stickers doesn't bother me at all (I can't stand stickers normally).

I don't think I've anticipated a retail release quite like this in some time.

He has pop up head pylons though, most voyagers have that aside from galvatron

[SuspectimusPrime]

And Diac, I know it's meant to be a homage to Diaclone, but that's the old acronym for the Department of Immigration and Citizenship.

LOL. It beats DIBP.


Also, does Peaugh just not care anymore? Thise videos were a tad tedious and he sounded bored 97% of the time.

Yeah, it seems like he's doing less frequent updates and not every release anymore.

[Batfan007]

All of these have really good designs. Love that Gnaw.

Bumblee's canopy opens up a bit differently than I thought but no matter, still a proper Scout sized Bee I've always wanted.

Not really feeling for Megatron. Excellent engineering and love the fact that there's two dedicated seats for TM dudes in tank and jet modes. But he just reminds me of Blitzwing too much.

I'm probably the only one that don't really mind Prime's jet mode. I think it has a goofy futuristic charm to it. Again I thought the engineering is great on these Voyager triple-changers. The designers have really been pushing the design within the confines of a tight budget.

I really like him. Bit plain in the colors, but oh well that's modern price cutting toys for your.

Can't resist having this megs with TR Skyshadow and Sixshot, YES!

[Deonasis]

This guy has the right idea.. Cybertron Hardtop (an excellent mold) mixed with Titan Masters.. Hell yeah!! :cool::cool:

http://teenman-tf.blogspot.com.au/2016/11/transformers-custom-cybertron-x-titans.html?m=1

[reillyd]

Wow. That Hardtop makes an awesome vehicle and body for a Titan master. How do you think he did it? Just drill a hole in the robot body, or do you think just removing the head would be a big enough cavity? I wish I was more adventurous with things like that.

[Initial_G]

Does anyone know roughly when the Wave 3 figures will be available in Aust?

[Bidoofdude]

Does anyone know roughly when the Wave 3 figures will be available in Aust?

It is kind of weird that we're only at Wave 2 at this point in the year. It was June when I got my wave 1 dudes.

[griffin]

It is kind of weird that we're only at Wave 2 at this point in the year. It was June when I got my wave 1 dudes.

With RID being the primary line for the general public and Retailers, there was only going to be 2 waves of TR Generations for 2016, which many countries got both waves within a month at the middle of the year... leaving us with a long wait for the "2017" batch to be released from the Factory.

Last year was a bit the same with the Generations line, for the Combiner Wars. We had the first three of the four waves of 2015 toys come out fairly quickly, then a long wait for the fourth wave... then another long wait for the Combaticons wave, which was the first of two waves of the 2016 Combiners.

And since we've skipped much of the 2016 green-packed "Minicon Weaponizer" RID toys, there hasn't been much to offer there when we are between waves for the Generations toys.

[tron07]

I really like him. Bit plain in the colors, but oh well that's modern price cutting toys for your.

Can't resist having this megs with TR Skyshadow and Sixshot, YES!

oooh.... six shot... cant wait.

The G2 Optimus Prime look like Octane. They will probably make Octane next.

[GoktimusPrime]

The G2 Optimus Prime look like Tankor. They will probably make Tankor next.
Fixed. :p

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Fixed. :p

I reject your reality and intend to insert my own:D

[aching878]

The last Bug finally arrived from china and it is just as nice as Gnaw, I'm glad to finally have the full team and so far have been really impress with these tiny size Titan Return bots.

Pretty sure they will get rid of the clear chest piece tho for the eventual takara ver so that it is inline with their other 2.


http://i.imgur.com/52f1iYYh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c410fbDh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0NIiWO1h.jpg

[Initial_G]

Nice, they really look great together ... pretty much have a swarm of them :)

[GoktimusPrime]

The fact that you were able to find legit toys in China is a worthy feat alone!

[aching878]

The fact that you were able to find legit toys in China is a worthy feat alone!

Lol. There's are many out there actually as a lot of people in China are fans of official products and toys in general

And it is some what frown upon esp if a store doesn't correctly label their stock, if it's not legit then fine but it better be label correctly saying it's not legit

[aching878]

Nice, they really look great together ... pretty much have a swarm of them :)

I really wanted to buy more but it's more fun building a mass troop of gnaws instead

[doublespy]

The fact that you were able to find legit toys in China is a worthy feat alone!

You just don't know where to look

[DELTAprime]

Is that Shrapnel unmodified? I swear my Hasbro Shrapnel's chest paint looks a lot worse.

[aching878]

Is that Shrapnel unmodified? I swear my Hasbro Shrapnel's chest paint looks a lot worse.

Bot mode one is TAV stock colours, I only replaced the decepticon sticker

[SharkyMcShark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mnNgdX79aw

Titans return Triggerhappy review.

Love that transformation. This is a definite get for me.

[Deonasis]

^It looks so good i keep getting more and more excited to see his rumoured moldbro Misfire!

[Initial_G]

^It looks so good i keep getting more and more excited to see his rumoured moldbro Misfire!

same, after seeing this review and transformation, it looks like it could so easily be adapted for misfire. Slugslinger looks like he could be a prime candidate for a mixture between Highbrow & Triggerhappy i think.

a question for ppl that might have the figures, how well does these titan returns figures match up with something like kfc tempest?

also with the 5mm peg hold hands, has anyone tried to see if g1 target master guys might fit?

[DELTAprime]

Topspin is getting a Deluxe Class figure. That's one less character from G1 without a CHUG representation.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-topspin-revealed/36891/

[SuspectimusPrime]

Can't really tell from the pic, but is that a new mould or a remould?

What could "Autobot Shuffler" be?

[Demonac]

Shuffler will be a Titan Master that probably transforms into an elephant.

[FatalityPitt]

Aren't Topspin and Broadside both Wreckers? Marvel Comics-wise?

[SuspectimusPrime]

Shuffler will be a Titan Master that probably transforms into an elephant.

I thought you were joking until I googled it. This is pretty cool: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shuffler

[DELTAprime]

Aren't Topspin and Broadside both Wreckers? Marvel Comics-wise?

Yep.

[FatalityPitt]

So that means the only original Wreckers that haven't been done in Generations (or CHUG) form are Twin Twist and Rack'n'Ruin. I don't think they've ever made a Rack'n'Ruin toy..

[prjkt]

Twintwist got an FOC Bruticus limb repaint (can't remember which one, Brawl maybe??) so while not G1 series, was Generations.... as for Rack'n'Ruin, so far just a non-toy character

EDIT: Yep, Brawl redeco (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Twintwist#Generations) with extra weapon

[Batfan007]

Aren't Topspin and Broadside both Wreckers? Marvel Comics-wise?

Yep, in marvel uk and IDW.

[GoktimusPrime]

Can confirm that Rack 'n' Ruin is the only member of the G1 Wreckers who is yet to have a toy.

[DELTAprime]

Can confirm that Rack 'n' Ruin is the only member of the G1 Wreckers who is yet to have a toy.

If they made a Rack n' Ruin CHUG toy what would it turn into?

[GoktimusPrime]

If they made a Rack n' Ruin CHUG toy what would it turn into?
A robotic chicken. And yes, I'm serious.

[Paulbot]

If they made a Rack n' Ruin CHUG toy what would it turn into?

I'm pretty sure the Uk comics explained what their alt modes were before they were joined together.

But I would imagine they could transform into something like those Cloud City dual pod flying machines from TESB.

[M-bot]

Can confirm that Rack 'n' Ruin is the only member of the G1 Wreckers who is yet to have a toy.


I'm pretty sure the Uk comics explained what their alt modes were before they were joined together.

But I would imagine they could transform into something like those Cloud City dual pod flying machines from TESB.

I'd buy that.

What's R&R's status in the IDW-verse (if any)? I imagine if he (they?) got some "screen time", it would make a toy a more likely proposition.

[DELTAprime]

They turned up in the IDW G1 Universe, didn't do anything major if memory serves.

[prjkt]

I'm pretty sure the Uk comics explained what their alt modes were before they were joined together.

But I would imagine they could transform into something like those Cloud City dual pod flying machines from TESB.
I had the exact same thought

[BigTransformerTrev]

I was never happy with the FOC representations of the Wreckers so besides Impactor (who I got from SS77 and now replaced with the Timelines version) I skipped them. I'm hoping on top of Topspin we get a decent Twin Twist too :D

[FatalityPitt]

Some better pics of Broadside: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-voyager-broadside-revealed-in-taiwan/36948/

Jet mode is a bit underwhelming (arms and thighs stick out like a sore thumb), but everything else looks cooler than expected.

[SuspectimusPrime]

Some better pics of Broadside: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-voyager-broadside-revealed-in-taiwan/36948/

Jet mode is a bit underwhelming (arms and thighs stick out like a sore thumb), but everything else looks cooler than expected.

The carrier mode does look pretty good. With its bulky jet mode, this mould could be repainted to resemble Flattop (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Flattop_(Decepticon))'s Micromaster transport's two moulds.

[DELTAprime]

Apparently Seibertron's news guy Va'al has a short term memory and forgotten that we have seen Broadside before. Way to get extra clicks Seibertron.:rolleyes:

[Lord_Zed]

Great carrier mode on Broadside, but the jet mode is hilariously bad, makes Generations Blitzwings jet mode look good.

[griffin]

The final issue of the Collector Club magazine has revealed Titans Return Kup (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/12/16/titans-return-kup-revealed-330113), which looks like it could be a reworked Blurr/Brainstorm.

[Paulbot]

The final issue of the Collector Club magazine has revealed Titans Return Kup (http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/12/16/titans-return-kup-revealed-330113), which looks like it could be a reworked Blurr/Brainstorm.

Spoilers for the Magazine with posts on Twitter with a review of the toy (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811069758632292353) and closer look at the pics (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811073729925181441) and another closer look (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811073801823916036).

[prjkt]

Not sure I like it, but will reserve judgement.

Will probably end up buying the whole wave anyway

[FatalityPitt]

Spoilers for the Magazine with posts on Twitter with a review of the toy (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811069758632292353) and closer look at the pics (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811073729925181441) and another closer look (https://twitter.com/ThatJohnD/status/811073801823916036).

The deco reminds me of Kup's appearance in the Marvel comics.

[aching878]

The deco reminds me of Kup's appearance in the Marvel comics.

Will have to wait for the eventual tak LG ver for the more toon look

[Bumbleb33]

TR Kup looks pretty disappointing I think I will stick with my Generations version. Though maybe TakTom will pull a new head sculpt out of the bag that will get it over the line for me.

[FatalityPitt]

Will have to wait for the eventual tak LG ver for the more toon look

Yeah. But I enjoyed the Marvel comics back in the day, so I don't really mind seeing Kup painted like this.

[aching878]

Yeah. But I enjoyed the Marvel comics back in the day, so I don't really mind seeing Kup painted like this.

This ver will be worth picking up locally since it always go crazy low prices nowadays with all the sales at target Kmart etc, when it's out prob end up going down to 20 when a sale rolls around

[Sinnertwin]

This ver will be worth picking up locally since it always go crazy low prices nowadays with all the sales at target Kmart etc, when it's out prob end up going down to 20 when a sale rolls around

lol
Anyway, this deco looks meh. Takara it is.

[Bidoofdude]

Sigh. The colours looked right on the cover art. C'mon Takara. It could always be a prototype/test shot (except the Autobot logo kind of puts that down), if he's that different to the art.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

I think it's the head which really lets him down. I'm also sorta getting a bit of a heavily-remolded hot rod from him too?

[hYpNoS]

Would it of killed them to mold the head in the same plastic as the truck?

Perceptor I can deal with in his hasbro colors, kup though not so much, he looks fine otherwise, gonna have to consider getting the old generations one (which will go with my platinum hotrod) or waiting on takara's one.

The review from the leaked pics are a worry, read the text, he's got loose legs :mad:

[DELTAprime]

The colours seem off. But the mould looks good. I'll have to hope for a cartoon accurate colour scheme from Takara Tomy.

[MV75]

Agreed on the head. Should be the plastic and not what looks like being painted instead.

But for me, the shoulders. Nope.

[DELTAprime]

New Legends class figure found. Throttlebot Chase.

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/12/29/titans-return-roadburn-throttlebot-chase-revealed-330413

[1AZRAEL1]

Yay for Throttlebots. Let's hope they do the rest

[Bidoofdude]

Yay for Throttlebots. Let's hope they do the rest

As soon as we get Seaspray, Beachcomber and Outback. :D

[Paulbot]

Looks good. Wasn't sold on this new Bumblebee toy, but think it's looks pretty good as Chase.

[prjkt]

Tempting

[GoktimusPrime]

Wouldn't look too bad repainted as Freeway either. :) And with a bit of retooling they could get away with making it Searchlight too. Rollbar and Wideload would be the only ones that'd require different moulds.

[M-bot]

Wouldn't look too bad repainted as Freeway either. :) And with a bit of retooling they could get away with making it Searchlight too. Rollbar and Wideload would be the only ones that'd require different moulds.

I can see Rollbar and Brawn potentially sharing a mould too.

[1AZRAEL1]

I can see Rollbar and Brawn potentially sharing a mould too.

You had the same thought I did. And I'd have no issue if they use that mould

[Handsprime]

I can see Rollbar and Brawn potentially sharing a mould too.

I'm hoping for an Outback retool of Brawn

[GoktimusPrime]

I can see Rollbar and Brawn potentially sharing a mould too.
I dunno... Rollbar and Brawn have entirely different looking robot modes, with Brawn carrying most of the chassis on his back and Rollbar, like all Throttlebots, carries the rear chassis on his back, mid-section as his chest, and front section as his feet. The existing Generations Gears mould could be easily repainted as Brawn, no retooling really needed. The Bumblebee mould could be heavily retooled to be Rollbar and Wideload though.

[Paulbot]

It took three years and three different toy series to get three Insecticons. Don't hold your breath for six Throttlebots! :)

[M-bot]

I dunno... Rollbar and Brawn have entirely different looking robot modes, with Brawn carrying most of the chassis on his back and Rollbar, like all Throttlebots, carries the rear chassis on his back, mid-section as his chest, and front section as his feet. The existing Generations Gears mould could be easily repainted as Brawn, no retooling really needed. The Bumblebee mould could be heavily retooled to be Rollbar and Wideload though.

We also got a CW Huffer and Pipes that were entirely different from their G1 incarnations with respect to where the alt mode bits went in robot mode. So it's not out of the question.

They would be crazy not to do Outback and Brawn out of he same mould though.

[GoktimusPrime]

It took three years and three different toy series to get three Insecticons. Don't hold your breath for six Throttlebots! :)
Not to mention five years to get all of the Seekers out as common retail releases. :rolleyes:

We also got a CW Huffer and Pipes that were entirely different from their G1 incarnations with respect to where the alt mode bits went in robot mode. So it's not out of the question.
True, but I don't think anyone considers those toys to be really great CHUGUR versions of their G1 characters. Lemme put it this way, if a more G1 accurate looking version of those characters came out I'd buy them in a heartbeat. My current ones would either be sold or kept for display in alt mode.

[prjkt]

Looking over pics of TR Kup again, I'm not sure I like.

The original Classics-verse rendition with the 3P head is hard to beat in my collection.

[CHILENO20]

Looking over pics of TR Kup again, I'm not sure I like.

The original Classics-verse rendition with the 3P head is hard to beat in my collection.

I agree. The vehicle mode looks good but robot mode just dosen't pull off "Kup".

[prjkt]

Could always put it him in as a "young" version of Kup... doesn't look as gnarled as the Gen. version

[GoktimusPrime]

TR Kup looks like he's smiling. I'd much rather a neutral expression. But yeah, overall I'm not impressed. BWTF's review (http://www.bwtf.com/toyreviews/generations/titansreturn/kup) doesn't instill me with a lot of confidence either. As with TR Hot Rod and Blurr, I'm just gonna wait for the opportunity to get this toy cheap.

[Lord_Zed]

I don't like the head sculpt on the Generations or Titan Returns Kup. So far only the Takara versions of Blur and Scourge have appealed to me of these movie cast CHUG remakes. I saw the Titan Returns Rodimus, but he just looked cheap. And even with Blur and Scourge their Generations counterparts are still better toys even if less movie accurate.

[prjkt]

I don't like the head sculpt on the Generations or Titan Returns Kup. So far only the Takara versions of Blur and Scourge have appealed to me of these movie cast CHUG remakes. I saw the Titan Returns Rodimus, but he just looked cheap. And even with Blur and Scourge their Generations counterparts are still better toys even if less movie accurate.

I'll agree with you on Scourge, yet Blurr's earlier incarnation worked much better as Drift imo. Not calling it a bad design, just not very Blurr-y to my mind.

[Bidoofdude]

If Takara gives the mould a new head (which they're seemingly not adverse to, given the cartoon accurate Headmasters) and a slavishly '86 movie paintjob, I'll bite. I don't want to say hate, but Hasbro's just does nothing with its garish colours and weird face. Great if you're a G1 comic lover though.

[1AZRAEL1]

Kup doesn't look great in robot mode. Vehicle mode almost nails it. Much like all the TR movie figures. My Gen Kup will still suffice, especially with the 3P head.

[PROVOST]

That hot rod looks awesome. Ill be buying that one.

Agreed on both points.

[GoktimusPrime]

If Takara gives the mould a new head (which they're seemingly not adverse to, given the cartoon accurate Headmasters) and a slavishly '86 movie paintjob, I'll bite. I don't want to say hate, but Hasbro's just does nothing with its garish colours and weird face. Great if you're a G1 comic lover though.
To be fair, TakaraTOMY's versions are significantly more expensive than Hasbro's. I picked up Legends Weirdwolf when I was in Japan this^last year... but I'd be lying if I said that the RRP didn't bother me. :o I care nothing for Llarigo (repaint of Apeface's drone), and while the colours and new head are nicer it still doesn't justify the 4000JPY (AU$50) price tag.

Hasbro's versions sold for half that price at most retailers, and with sales, even less than that. I paid $15 for Hot Rod and even less for Blurr (although that was via a private sale). I bought LG Weirdwolf really as a souvenir while in Japan, and of course there was no shipping cost as I just physically brought the toy back with me. But I cannot justify importing any of the LGs. I've seen LG Blurr IRL in Japan (in one of those clear case end cap displays) - it was beautiful. But I paid a quarter of that price for my TR Blurr and about 3.5 times less for my TR Hot Rod.

As I said, I'm not going to pay $25~30 for Kup. I'll wait until the price drops into the teens then think about it. And yeah, I'm a G1 comic lover, so... ;)

[Bidoofdude]

To be fair, TakaraTOMY's versions are significantly more expensive than Hasbro's. I picked up Legends Weirdwolf when I was in Japan this^last year... but I'd be lying if I said that the RRP didn't bother me. :o I care nothing for Llarigo (repaint of Apeface's drone), and while the colours and new head are nicer it still doesn't justify the 4000JPY (AU$50) price tag.

Hasbro's versions sold for half that price at most retailers, and with sales, even less than that. I paid $15 for Hot Rod and even less for Blurr (although that was via a private sale). I bought LG Weirdwolf really as a souvenir while in Japan, and of course there was no shipping cost as I just physically brought the toy back with me. But I cannot justify importing any of the LGs. I've seen LG Blurr IRL in Japan (in one of those clear case end cap displays) - it was beautiful. But I paid a quarter of that price for my TR Blurr and about 3.5 times less for my TR Hot Rod.

As I said, I'm not going to pay $25~30 for Kup. I'll wait until the price drops into the teens then think about it. And yeah, I'm a G1 comic lover, so... ;)

The deluxes do seem to have a pretty hefty tag in comparison. Locally seems like they're fine, I picked up Soundwave for about $60-$70, but import costs are a killer.

[prjkt]

Before the TR series, price wise they were pretty similar once you take currency conversion into account, before shipping. I think the extra vehicle/weapon gave hen an excuse to raise the price a little (too much?)

Back onto Kup, there's speculation that they might use this mould for Crosshairs. I just checked out photos of G1 Crosshairs, and I think I'd be happy with this mould for him.

[GoktimusPrime]

The deluxes do seem to have a pretty hefty tag in comparison. Locally seems like they're fine, I picked up Soundwave for about $60-$70, but import costs are a killer.
Even if I were living in Japan and being paid in Japanese Yen, 4000JPY is the equivalent of forty bucks. That's a lot to pay for a freakin' Deluxe. Compare this with the 2500~2800JPY RRP for most other Deluxe Class figures in Japan. From a Japanese POV it's the equivalent of $25~28, which is pretty similar to the $25~30 range that we pay for Deluxes here.

On the surface TakaraTOMY's RRP for Deluxe Headmasters may seem comparatively similar to our prices. For the equivalent of forty bucks you get a Deluxe ($30) and a Titan Master ($10), but wait... you don't get an additional Titan Master, you just get the drone only. So my LG Weirdwolf is the mould equivalent of TR Wolfwire and Apeface but without Apeface... just his drone. So I have half of that set, which really makes it worth say $5 (half the price). Thus at best the LG Weirdwolf set should really be selling at ￥3500, not ￥4000.

The LG Headmasters might be better value if you can get them at a discounted price. If any of your friends in Japan have member cards with stores like Yodobashi Camera, Bic Camera etc., you can use them to get a discount. And if the store gives you additional discount with your passport you might try to stack that discount (I've never tried discount stacking*, but doesn't hurt to try, eh?). But I can't justify TakaraTOMY's full RRP for their LG Deluxes over Hasbro's in Australia. And I couldn't find any LGs at discount price... heck, it was hard finding LGs period! Despite the hefty price tag these toys are clearly selling like hotcakes. :o

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*Except at Hero Gangu in Osaka - stacked my duty-free discount w/ passport plus haggled discount with management ;)

[Bidoofdude]

Indeed. I was a little astounded at the fact that besides a lone Legends Skids, the new LG wave was the only Legends stuff present. There was a Blaster and Adventure Sky Shadow on the end display, but I didn't think it would be so hard to find anything even a little old.

[Gouki]

I'll agree with you on Scourge, yet Blurr's earlier incarnation worked much better as Drift imo. Not calling it a bad design, just not very Blurr-y to my mind.

I've really come around to Titans Return Blurr. He's lithe and poseable like a speedster should be (the colours aren't the best), but he's a way better figure than I expected. I always thought Universe Blurr's mould was a bit bulky (though I really regret not picking up Drift).

[GoktimusPrime]

I've really come around to Titans Return Blurr. He's lithe and poseable like a speedster should be (the colours aren't the best), but he's a way better figure than I expected. I always thought Universe Blurr's mould was a bit bulky (though I really regret not picking up Drift).
Universe's Blurr is too bulky! The Drift mould has never been a great match for Blurr. The IDW-based head is nice, but the asteroid-sized chin looks weird.

TR Blurr's colour is nice. That deep metallic blue, quite reminiscent of G1 Thundercracker. The difference is that TR Blurr has a nice colour, while LG Blurr has nice colours. Plural. :p

[prjkt]

That's why I stuck the TR Nightbeat head on TR Blurr's body, and use LG Blurr as a lure on my shelf

[CHILENO20]

That's why I stuck the TR Nightbeat head on TR Blurr's body, and use LG Blurr as a lure on my shelf

I have to admit, I have copied your idea :cool: TR Nightbeat's head on TR Blurr's body works so well. :) I am using LG Nightbeat on Gen Nightbeat's body also, that works pretty well too.

[prjkt]

I have to admit, I have copied your idea :cool: TR Nightbeat's head on TR Blurr's body works so well. :) I am using LG Nightbeat on Gen Nightbeat's body also, that works pretty well too.

My idea was putting a new head on, I think it was Paulbot who suggested Nightbeat

[Raider]

Seibertron (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rumour-for-titans-return-wave-5-deluxes/37303/) rumours on the Wave 5 releases:

Titan Master
C2389 Optimus Prime
C2390 Toraizer
C2391 Ramhorn

Legends
C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray

Deluxe
Misfire
Topspin
Windblade

Voyager
C2396 Octane
C2397 Blitzwing

Leader
C2388 Overlord

[FruitBuyer]

Octane and Blitzwing. To the grand surprise of no-one.

Windblade seems interesting.

[ZoonMaster5000]

Overlord was no surprise either but I am more interested how many of these takara redeco

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I'd be down for Cosmos!

[doublespy]

The TR Legends have been really strong to me, so I'm happy to see a Cosmos with TM interactivity. Seaspray in the right scale is nice too.

Also looking forward to the two Delxue remolds. And 'course Overlord.

[Trent]

Misfire!!!

[Initial_G]

Overlord is a definite buy, Misfire and Twintwist is likely too :)

[MayzaPrime]

Abit annoyed that we are getting another Cosmos... he was only released a few years ago and that is still a very good figure. I would have liked a Beachcomber or another Throttlebot.

[Megatran]

C2390 Toraizer
I had to look that up.

[philby]

Legends
C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray



is this the 3rd ever seaspray toy or something?

[prjkt]

is this the 3rd ever seaspray toy or something?

fourth? Not including Takara repaints
G1
Universe Legion Class
Generations version

and now this

[MayzaPrime]

fourth? Not including Takara repaints
G1
Universe Legion Class
Generations version

and now this

Dont forget the G2 repaint

[Paulbot]

fourth? Not including Takara repaints
G1
Universe Legion Class
Generations version

and now this

Universe legion class? Generations... Have you listed the various Cosmos toys instead of Seaspray toys?

[prjkt]

Universe legion class? Generations... Have you listed the various Cosmos toys instead of Seaspray toys?

Possibly. Have not really slept much in a week due to the little one

In that case
G1
G2
Movieverse voyager

[reillyd]

Possibly. Have not really slept much in a week due to the little one

In that case
G1
G2
Movieverse voyager

Yeah, the movie verse one was called Sea Spray, must have been a tm thing. It was at best an homage, and only the Takara version had propellers that were even slightly yellow (more orange). I would kill for a cheap legion size Seaspray. My g1 is on. It's last legs

[FatalityPitt]

Some In-Hand images of Windblade.

Gotta admit, I was gonna skip this one, but it actually looks pretty good. It's gone from "Nah" to a tentative "yes".

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/inhand-images-of-titans-return-windblade/38409/

[reillyd]

I love Windblade the character. She's become a beautiful addition to the Transformers mythos. But did they have to do that to her to sell toys? Really!?!

She's not that type of robot, and it looks like oversexualisation. She looks like one of BigAngryTrev's mouse pads. I can understand if it were a design choice for a Japanese exclusive, because well Japan, right? They gave us KISS players. but for a US release.... somewhat de-empowering.

(Just to clarify in case that seems disparaging against Japanese culture - it was not intended as such, I just mean that it's not fair to judge as there are different cultural norms)

[Sinnertwin]

Seibertron (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rumour-for-titans-return-wave-5-deluxes/37303/) rumours on the Wave 5 releases:

Titan Master
C2389 Optimus Prime
C2390 Toraizer
C2391 Ramhorn

Legends
C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray

Deluxe
Misfire
Topspin
Windblade

Voyager
C2396 Octane
C2397 Blitzwing

Leader
C2388 Overlord

That's me done :D

[GoktimusPrime]

I love Windblade the character. She's become a beautiful addition to the Transformers mythos. But did they have to do that to her to sell toys? Really!?!
Eh... it's not much worse than say Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, BM Blackarachnia, Thunderblast etc. It's not my cup of tea, but meh...

But all of these toys are gonna pale in comparison if TakaraTOMY ever make an MP Black Widow. :o

[griffin]

The Chinese leaker is at it again (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/05/titans-return-wave-5-trypticon-collector-card-artwork-340693), this time releasing scans of the character cards for Wave 5 Generations Deluxe and Leader toys, as well as Trypticon.

[DarkHyren]

I know nothing about the Windblade character outside of RiD (except for watching episode one of that horrible combiner wars cartoon) but I dont see a problem having a feminine "female" robot when there are some very masculine "male" robots, I wouldnt even call this overtly sexual, just feminine.
I dont see how it's "de-empowering" for a powerful female to also be feminine, so the implication is that the only way a female can be "powerful" is if she's a brute?
Also I refer to the Generations Windblade, this TR version is not that much different in design, so I don't understand the complaints at all, it's a nice change of pace and a graceful and elegant design for something that isnt a highly priced third party figure

[reillyd]

I know nothing about the Windblade character outside of RiD (except for watching episode one of that horrible combiner wars cartoon) but I dont see a problem having a feminine "female" robot when there are some very masculine "male" robots, I wouldnt even call this overtly sexual, just feminine.
I dont see how it's "de-empowering" for a powerful female to also be feminine, so the implication is that the only way a female can be "powerful" is if she's a brute?
Also I refer to the Generations Windblade, this TR version is not that much different in design, so I don't understand the complaints at all, it's a nice change of pace and a graceful and elegant design for something that isnt a highly priced third party figure

I take your point that the new Windblade is particularly feminine, but imagine if the roles were reversed, and Optimus has a bulging phallic codpiece.... given that they are asexual (or pan-sexual in IDW) and don't reproduce it seems strange to see her comically well endowed.

Windblade in the actual comics and cartoon is far more modestly proportioned. Maybe my initial reaction was hasty, but if I had a daughter I would give her the SDCC Windblade and not this one

[DarkHyren]

I think you're still exaggerating but if you like look at CW Voyager Optimus, he is quite masculine and looking at his nether regions it's not hard to imagine he has a codpiece thing going on. And look at those pecs and abs, come on
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:GenerationsVoyOP.jpg

Honestly as I said I dont see any issue with this figure, she's feminine and there's not a thing wrong with that, the same as there's nothing wrong with Optimus having abs, but to each their own

[reillyd]

Okay, now I can never "unsee" the blue codpiece in CW Optimus's combined form. So thanks for that :-p

I don't make a habit of checking out a robots tackle. I just looked at G1 Megatron's trigger handle codpiece so maybe there is a precedent

[FatalityPitt]

In-package images of the Wave 5 Deluxes.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/in-package-images-for-titans-return-topsin-misfire-and-windblade/38414/

MY Thoughts/Feelings:
- Windblade is a likely buy for me. I didn't think a female Headmaster would look good at first, because the stereotypical Headmaster tends to be quite big and blocky with a square head. But Windblade still manages to pull off her look while accommodating the gimmick. The face-sculpt looks really nice. This is proof of the progress made in toy design and crafting over the decades.
- Twin Twist has a cool alt-mode and he's got the same transformation as Topspin. What's not to like?
- Misfire's head is going to be painted.. Cool! TBH I kinda prefer the Hasbro TR deco over the Takara Legends one. It feels like there's more painted white detail on the TR version, and the pink seems a little darker (could just be me imagining things).

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Windblade doesn't look that enhanced to me... I think it's more likely due to the photos personally. Personally I don't care that much. She has a nice head sculpt and looks fairly pose-able so, fun. Although her fore-arms are tiny and the bicep are looks huge. so....

Still, I'll get one.

On the cards, its cool to see Twin Twist and Overlord are planned. Did we see images of overlord before?

Damn this headmaster shenanigans is just too much joy for me to hold back :(

[Sinnertwin]

Despite their history, not a fan of the blue eyes on Misfire/Aimless.
Twinspin or whatever is still meh after seeing Wave 4 Deluxes in hand today.