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Bumbleb33
5th August 2016, 08:59 PM
Hey Guys,

I am sure most will agree that a significant highlight of SDCC 2016 was the reveal of TR Legends Gnaw. On that note I am interested to see how many people consider army building the little guy.

I am hoping to use the information gathered to see if any common suppliers such as P.C. could do a special case order with solely that character.

Thanks

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
5th August 2016, 09:05 PM
Yep! Definitely planning on getting a little army going! :)

Trent
5th August 2016, 09:15 PM
In my younger days, yes. Now just one will suffice

GoktimusPrime
5th August 2016, 09:15 PM
Here's a problem with army build figures... do you buy every toy that you see, or do you buy one from different stores so that you leave some behind for others? Or maybe buy one first and wait a few weeks/months and buy up remaining stock (thus giving others ample time to get theirs).

I'm not into army building (at least not with duplicates), so I'm happy to get just one, but I hope that it's not gonna be a pain in the asteroid to find because others have bought multiples for themselves. I hope this doesn't become like Generations Scourge all over again. :rolleyes:

CHILENO20
5th August 2016, 09:17 PM
Me too. I did so with my deluxe Vehicons. This will be a bit easier on the wallet.

Bumbleb33
5th August 2016, 09:24 PM
Here's a problem with army build figures... do you buy every toy that you see, or do you buy one from different stores so that you leave some behind for others? Or maybe buy one first and wait a few weeks/months and buy up remaining stock (thus giving others ample time to get theirs).

A gracious attitude to be sure but in this case my idea is to contact some online suppliers to see if they can potentially organise with Hasbro if a case of Gnaws only could be supplied. Much like what happened a few years ago with DOTM Que or more recently with Walgreens exclusive TR Brainstorm. That way no-one misses out :)

GoktimusPrime
5th August 2016, 09:28 PM
I built a small squad of Vehicons where each Vehicon is actually a different toy. I've applied the rule of NTSC※.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Vehicons%20Prime/cliffjumperslaststand1_zps80eb9177.jpg
Cliffjumper vs...
* Deluxe Vehicon, First Edition
* Deluxe Vehicon, TFPRiD
* Deluxe Vehicon, AM
* Deluxe Jet Vehicon, AM
* Deluxe Jet Vehicon General, AM
* Legends Vehicon
* Legends Jet Vehicon

--------------------------------------------
※Never Twice Same 'Con ;)

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
5th August 2016, 09:34 PM
A gracious attitude to be sure but in this case my idea is to contact some online suppliers to see if they can potentially organise with Hasbro if a case of Gnaws only could be supplied.

PC did mention back in June (https://www.facebook.com/premiumcollectaus/posts/1138061632882090) that they had participated in a meeting with Hasbro US, so there is a possibility that they could send it up the chain and see what happens...

Bumbleb33
5th August 2016, 09:35 PM
I built a small squad of Vehicons where each Vehicon is actually a different toy. I've applied the rule of NTSC※.
※Never Twice Same 'Con ;)

I went polar opposite with my Vehicon squad, I wanted them all identical so they would look more menacing lined up, bad example photo follows :)

http://i.imgur.com/wKzwkYS.jpg

Bumbleb33
5th August 2016, 09:36 PM
PC did mention back in June (https://www.facebook.com/premiumcollectaus/posts/1138061632882090) that they had participated in a meeting with Hasbro US, so there is a possibility that they could send it up the chain and see what happens...

That was the idea, just thought I would start with some stats first :)

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
5th August 2016, 09:41 PM
That was the idea, just thought I would start with some stats first :)

For sure! Prove to them they can make money and everyone comes out happy! :D

SMHFConvoy
6th August 2016, 06:56 AM
I just like the idea of having the titan master having to ride in gnaw's mouth :)

CBratron
6th August 2016, 09:55 AM
Nowadays, three figures is enough to satisfy any of my army building urges. Any more and I imagine I wouldn't care about how many were left on the shelf after I pick it clean.

With that mindset I would just order a regular case and offload any extras at cost. No reason not to spread the savings around.

GoktimusPrime
6th August 2016, 02:55 PM
"Would you like to build an army of Sharkticons?"
"Gnaw thanks."
:p :p :p

♪Everything is Gnawsome, everything is cool when you're part of a school (of Sharkticons)

prjkt
15th August 2016, 11:42 PM
I built a small squad of Vehicons where each Vehicon is actually a different toy. I've applied the rule of NTSC※.

I did the same with every version of the deluxe Vehicon mould, PRID Vehicon, AM Vehicon, Jet Vehicon, Jet Vehicon General, TAV Ground Vehicon General and the Botcon Pounce/Wingspan set.

I may be tempted to do the same with Gnaw, every version of the mould.

doublespy
16th August 2016, 08:16 AM
I'm not normally into arm building but out came the Big W clearance. Got me a small army of $10 Vehicons for sure.:D

Gnaw is a cute little figure that I'll have to buy multiples of.

Bumbleb33
11th September 2016, 12:58 PM
Since this poll has tapered off I have sent the results to Premium Collectables to see if they can potentially accommodate our need to army build. If I get a response I will let you know.

Ta

hYpNoS
11th September 2016, 05:03 PM
What I plan to do is buy 2 hasbro ones and one legends version just so there is a "leader" for the bunch, I always have a leader for my sets.

Bumbleb33
11th September 2016, 11:12 PM
What I plan to do is buy 2 hasbro ones and one legends version just so there is a "leader" for the bunch, I always have a leader for my sets.

I had planned to do something similar though I plan to modify two of my Sharkticons to reflect the scene from the original film when one Sharkticon tore the face off another accidentally as well as when another Sharkticon had his teeth smashed out.

UltraMarginal
12th September 2016, 11:44 AM
I only just saw this poll now, I tend to get one of something to start. and then depending on how keen I am on a particular mould or character I will buy some multiples later down the line, especially if they go on clearance towards the end of a line.

I did the same thing as Goki with the Prime Vehicons, though I have a couple double ups of the RID version due to finding it cheap. I also got hold of the Japan colour version of the FE Vehicon.

I have several of the Prime Insecticons and a couple of the WFC insecticons. I'd like a Japanese release of the WFC insecticon but it's too expensive to justify picking up as a repaint.

I have a Japanese Scourge and a couple Hasbro Scourges and I'll likely repeat that process with the new Titan Wars line.

I put down 3 in the poll it's dependant on the size of the group discount really.

Bumbleb33
12th September 2016, 02:38 PM
Premium Collectables Response.

Hi,

we might look at doing a otca special ,

just depends on when solo cases are due,

and perhaps if we get an eta, we can source interest then,

Customer Service

UltraMarginal
12th September 2016, 06:02 PM
Premium Collectables Response.

Hi,

we might look at doing a otca special ,

just depends on when solo cases are due,

and perhaps if we get an eta, we can source interest then,

Customer Service


That's a positive response!
very cool, nice work Bumbleb33

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
12th September 2016, 08:42 PM
Nice!

Cheers Bumbleb33! :)

mknell
14th September 2016, 10:03 AM
Nice I'm in if it does!!!

M-bot
2nd December 2016, 11:12 AM
I wanted - and found and purchased - 3. My TF: The Movie display is now pretty much complete. I also have 5 Junkions (the 2 official releases and 3 customs) in that display.

5FDP
4th December 2016, 12:03 AM
I'm after 3 as well. Want to display them with MP Grimlock and TR Wheelie.


I wanted - and found and purchased - 3. My TF: The Movie display is now pretty much complete. I also have 5 Junkions (the 2 official releases and 3 customs) in that display.

^ That is so awesome. Have you taken a photo of your display? Would love to see it :)

Mormolyce
5th December 2016, 11:56 AM
This little guy looks great, but I'd love it if there was a Legends repaint (a la Blurr/Scourge) a little closer to this:

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/1/12/TFTM-Sharkticons.jpg/290px-TFTM-Sharkticons.jpg

Tone down the blue, make the pink and purple parts uniform, add the red and yellow details. Maybe punch up the eyes.

DELTAprime
5th December 2016, 07:06 PM
I wasn't going to do any army building with the Sharkticons, but what the hell. If I can get all 3 from a case that would good.

Bumbleb33
5th December 2016, 07:47 PM
It looks like Hasbro have gone with the colouring of the original G1 Gnaw toy for the new Legends fig as opposed to cartoon accuracy.

Considering Takara have recently opted to make their MP / TR line cartoon accurate I wouldn't be surprised if the inevitable Takara Gnaw we receive will sport movie accurate colouring.

Bumbleb33
4th January 2017, 01:08 AM
So considering the fact that Gnaw has now started to trickle out to Aus retail has anyone started their army yet? People post pics :)

Farrout
12th February 2017, 10:15 PM
I haven't found any Gnaws in retail stores here in Townsville. I bought one through Robotkingdom.com but they had a limit of 1! Has anyone bought any off ebay from China? I was wondering if this was a good option to get a few at a reasonable price, ~$15/$16 seems to be the average.

MayzaPrime
12th February 2017, 11:01 PM
I am interested to know what is everyone's tally of Sharkticons?

I have 3... and I wont be getting any more, unless they show up at the reject shop for $10 or less.

SofaMan
12th February 2017, 11:11 PM
I don't have any yet. Probably because of everyone else buying three each of them.

Bumbleb33
12th February 2017, 11:27 PM
I am currently at 6 but have another 10 on the way, all from eBay. There is some pretty good deals on there :)

GoktimusPrime
12th February 2017, 11:54 PM
I don't have any yet. Probably because of everyone else buying three each of them.
We seem to often have this problem with Army Building figures. Can we not have some rule to allow other people a chance to get this toy, like maybe wait a week between each Sharkticon, or buy only one Sharkticon per postcode or something? :confused:

I'm not army building but I'll grab a Gnaw for you if I see one, Sofaman (Sofie for short? :p)

philby
15th February 2017, 10:48 AM
I went with 3. I figure that's a decent enough amount more than 1 but not too crazy.

Seraphim Prime
15th February 2017, 10:48 AM
We seem to often have this problem with Army Building figures. Can we not have some rule to allow other people a chance to get this toy, like maybe wait a week between each Sharkticon, or buy only one Sharkticon per postcode or something? :confused:

I'm not army building but I'll grab a Gnaw for you if I see one, Sofaman (Sofie for short? :p)

I did this! Although I'm less of a fan of strict "rules" when it comes to things like this, I figured I only need one, but if I could get three I would.

So I got the last one at Hornsby TRU when they were first spotted.
One from Ryde Kmart when they arrived there
One from Broadway Target last week

In the case of Kmart and Target that still left one or two for others to get.

GoktimusPrime
15th February 2017, 10:53 AM
I meant "rule" in terms of a courtesy for fellow fans more than anything else. :) I bought a second Generations Scourge but only after it'd been pegwarming at a local Kmart for weeks. Also, my first Generations Scourge was purchased overseas so I wasn't further depleting local stock.

MayzaPrime
15th February 2017, 10:58 AM
I bought 2 in one hit and then waited a few weeks until I got my 3rd. I also posted in the ACT sightings when I see them, so Gok I think most people on this forum are considerate of other fans when it comes to army building.

philby
15th February 2017, 03:08 PM
yeah the first place i went to had 3, so i bought 2 and left one. then another place had 2 so i bought 1 and left 1 also.

Megatran
15th February 2017, 05:01 PM
This thread is army building. Why talk it down?

The poll shows the majority have gone for 3. :)

Sinnertwin
15th February 2017, 05:34 PM
We seem to often have this problem with Army Building figures. Can we not have some rule to allow other people a chance to get this toy, like maybe wait a week between each Sharkticon, or buy only one Sharkticon per postcode or something? :confused:


You know that's impossible to enforce, right?

If I've commuted half way around Sydney from shopping mall to shopping mall & found 3 that I'm after, I'm not going to buy 2 and leave 1 behind, in the hopes that some other unfortunate sod who has also been galavanting around town will find it.

That's what networking is for, and I can proudly say that OTCA does this very well.

GoktimusPrime
15th February 2017, 08:55 PM
I meant "rule" as in a common fan courtesy or etiquette.

Sinnertwin
15th February 2017, 09:41 PM
It's a simple numbers game. If a store only gets 1 box of Legends in (3 x Gnaw) and I buy 2 for myself and one for you because you can't find one, the rest of the fans are still going to miss out.
That store then won't get anymore in until the inventory system triggers an order (usually when there are only 3 units of a particular keycode left in stock) so you're left driving from store to store looking for a little plastic shark.

Are you in the right store at the right time? Cool, buy them all for you and your friends or buy what you need & leave what you don't. There are so many of options out there for acquiring toys in 2017, it's impossible for people to miss out.


Gnaw. $15.08 each with free delivery from China. (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRANSFORMERS-LEGENDS-TITANS-RETURN-SHARKTICON-GNAW-AUTOBOTS-ACTION-FIGURES-TOY-/272493919384?hash=item3f71e73c98:g:bygAAOSwhqJYWyi l)

GoktimusPrime
15th February 2017, 10:07 PM
I personally don't mind if one person buys multiple toys to help out other fans as they're not buying all of those toys for themselves. Fair point about the greater variety of options for fans today. :) It sure beats driving from suburb to suburb (to suburb to suburb to suburb) looking for elusive toys only to go home empty handed.

I personally never found the Ultra Transmetal 2 toys in any store in 1999, and it wasn't from lack of trying. :( I did hear people saying they'd spotted them, but I could never find them.

Borgeman
15th February 2017, 10:34 PM
Its one thing to desire the above to beat out scalpers who buy up and resell for profits, but we're drawing a very long bow when asking someone to buy less of something they want for the potential gain of others.
If I really want to buy 3, or 10 or 20 of anything its my right as a consumer to spend my hard earned dosh however I please. If I bought less that my desired amount "for the benefit of others" I may never see another one again because they've all been gobbled up.

As Sinner's twin implied, there are many options abounds. If you want something that badly, pre-order it. I got 3 gnaws from thelittletoycompany to save on runnning around fruitlessly.

Edit: I should add, I'll probably get one or two Takara Gnaws when they do eventually release the mold.

GoktimusPrime
15th February 2017, 10:58 PM
I suppose it depends on whether or not you side with utilitarianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism) (the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few) or deontology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_ethics) (gotta look after yourself first before looking out for others). I'm not saying that one school of ethics is better or worse than the other, it all depends on your own POV. And ultimately, we are just talking about toys. :p

Borgeman
15th February 2017, 11:02 PM
Yeah somehow I think the issue of "army building gnaw shopping" falls comfortably into the trivial basket :p

GoktimusPrime
15th February 2017, 11:44 PM
Seeing people over-purchase a toy is insignificant next to seeing people over-purchasing real estate. With a toy, the worst case scenario is that you may have to live without that toy. With housing, the worst case scenario looks (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/24/05/2ACAC8B500000578-3160130-Boomer_takes_his_place_in_the_CBD_for_a_few_hours_ of_cold_biting-a-30_1437710735966.jpg) like (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sC5kO8FBxk4/UM-kGvxCqAI/AAAAAAAAFbQ/rim6GvBZXRQ/s1600/homeless.jpg) this (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/the-family-face-of-a-national-housing-affordability-crisis/news-story/805dc6ef73aa2e9943bc350efe10a340). :(

SMHFConvoy
16th February 2017, 09:48 PM
With housing, the worst case scenario looks (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/24/05/2ACAC8B500000578-3160130-Boomer_takes_his_place_in_the_CBD_for_a_few_hours_ of_cold_biting-a-30_1437710735966.jpg) like (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sC5kO8FBxk4/UM-kGvxCqAI/AAAAAAAAFbQ/rim6GvBZXRQ/s1600/homeless.jpg) this (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/the-family-face-of-a-national-housing-affordability-crisis/news-story/805dc6ef73aa2e9943bc350efe10a340). :(

Which is why I gladly took on a mortgage with other family members, so my mum had somewhere to live, because women over 50 have some of the highest rates of homelessness in Australia.

Batfan007
18th March 2017, 05:50 PM
We seem to often have this problem with Army Building figures. Can we not have some rule to allow other people a chance to get this toy, like maybe wait a week between each Sharkticon, or buy only one Sharkticon per postcode or something? :confused:

I'm not army building but I'll grab a Gnaw for you if I see one, Sofaman (Sofie for short? :p)

This makes no sense to me when it's an easily available figure.

Omega Metro
18th March 2017, 07:04 PM
This makes no sense to me when it's an easily available figure.

I've seen tonnes of Gnaws here in Perth in the last month. I'd probably have 50 now if I didn't think the 3 I have were enough.:)

GoktimusPrime
18th March 2017, 07:11 PM
Gnaw was harder to find back in mid-February when I made the last post on this thread. But you guys are right, since then Gnaw has become as common as hens' beaks - at least in Sydney and presumably in your areas too. But this may not be the case in all parts of Australia such as in Adelaide where Sofaman's from (or at least around his local stores). :o

I think that making Army Builder style figures as Legend Class toys is a better idea than Deluxe Class, as smaller/cheaper toys are always manufactured in larger numbers thus the overall stock of these toys isn't being depleted as badly as with Deluxe Class army builders like Generations Scourge, TFPRiD Deluxe Vehicon etc. We did have a Legends CW Wreck Gar which lasted longer in stores than Deluxe Generations Wreck Gar. So in reflection I think that it was a good move for Hasbro to release Gnaw at this price point and hopefully future Army Builders will follow the same pattern. Maybe a Legends Class Scourge/Sweep.

Omega Metro
30th March 2017, 02:46 PM
I've seen tonnes of Gnaws here in Perth in the last month. I'd probably have 50 now if I didn't think the 3 I have were enough.:)

Got sick of waiting for someone to buy the Gnaws at Myer Carousel so bought another 4 today.:) I now have 7.

mknell
31st March 2017, 10:30 AM
Bumblebee fears my Sharkticons

https://scontent.fsyd3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17390791_10155242749728939_8563300657631590018_o.j pg?oh=be569d3c8db4598dac69c3b422e56c69&oe=595E9FD3

Paulbot
31st March 2017, 12:19 PM
That photo's great, love the way the "mass" of the Sharkticons in the background looks pretty scary.

Raider
17th April 2017, 01:21 AM
So I have 3 of the Hasbro version and ended up buying 6 of the takara version (mostly to use PC Energon voucher) so 9 is quite the army. Might sell 3 of the takara ones when they arrive from PC some time next year :p

CoRDS
17th April 2017, 08:07 AM
I have 9 of the hasbro ones and 3 of the unique toys sharkies and they look so good together

Omega Metro
17th April 2017, 09:26 AM
The poll above needs a '9' option. I have 9 now. Definately no more.

davieanix
17th April 2017, 11:41 AM
I have 9 hasbro and that's it for me. Thing is, I got them all when they were hard to find and I've seen at least 20 in the wild in the last week alone!

Omega Metro
17th April 2017, 01:09 PM
I have 9 hasbro and that's it for me. Thing is, I got them all when they were hard to find and I've seen at least 20 in the wild in the last week alone!

Yep. Couldn't find them anywhere a few months back. Now shelfwarming everywhere.

DarkHyren
19th April 2017, 10:36 PM
For me I want my own little Shark army but I have trouble justifying paying $19 for one Scout (I'm going to keep calling them Scouts, to me Legions/Legends will always be the size of the tiny little RiD figures that are out atm) let alone at least nine of the same one, especially when Deluxes are twice (ish) the size for only $6 more. I wont even get into Takara prices for army building.

Anyway TL;DR I'd have at least nine, for the right price

liegeprime
19th April 2017, 11:58 PM
For me I want my own little Shark army but I have trouble justifying paying $19 for one Scout (I'm going to keep calling them Scouts, to me Legions/Legends will always be the size of the tiny little RiD figures that are out atm) let alone at least nine of the same one, especially when Deluxes are twice (ish) the size for only $6 more. I wont even get into Takara prices for army building.

Anyway TL;DR I'd have at least nine, for the right price

you might wanna avail of the buy one take one promo of Myers... well 40% of the totale price of the 2 items.... not sure how long that promo is.

Omega Metro
20th April 2017, 12:12 AM
you might wanna avail of the buy one take one promo of Myers... well 40% of the totale price of the 2 items.... not sure how long that promo is.

That's how I acquired 8 of my 9. Together with Myerone gift vouchers, and other free gift cards, they only average out at $10 each.

ZoonMaster5000
20th April 2017, 12:35 AM
That's how I acquired 8 of my 9. Together with Myerone gift vouchers, and other free gift cards, they only average out at $10 each.

I'm still waiting for Myer to get their stock in. Then I'll have 10 hasbro gnaws to go with the 10 takara ones I just preordered. I've definitely gone overboard on this one

mknell
20th April 2017, 08:34 AM
https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17635106_10155268985173939_9212060596606507138_o.j pg?oh=e1a68a299169a6c31f9b4c32cde6b51a&oe=59848D01

Ploughmans Lunch
20th April 2017, 01:50 PM
I did 3 hasbro and 3 takara. Was considering just one Takara but then realised that it'd be against sharkticon 'Nature' to have a "leader" so they can all be equals.

griffin
9th May 2017, 01:32 AM
I'm beginning to find these shelfwarming in stores now with little or no Kickbacks and Bumblebees... and the revision for wave 4 has Gnaw in it as well (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB7771D11)... probably for the small percentage of collectors and customers who were wanting to buy more than one.
I understand Bumblebee being snapped up faster than Gnaw, but what is the deal with Kickback being more popular as well, when both Gnaw and Kickback are robotic animals that need an 80s fan to understand or appreciate what they're alt-modes are meant to be.

GoktimusPrime
9th May 2017, 01:37 AM
Most if not every fan probably already owns at least one Bumblebee toy in their collection, but perhaps fewer own a Kickback. I am speaking from a more casual collector's POV - someone who doesn't care about collecting multiple toys with the same name.

DarkHyren
18th May 2017, 09:59 PM
I felt like this was the best place to share this... creation I found on facebook. Thanks to Mikey from TFCCA for sharing

http://i.imgur.com/k7SGqOZ.jpg

philby
22nd May 2017, 01:07 AM
hahaha thats crazy :D

philby
26th October 2017, 11:29 PM
I thought I was only going to have 3....

http://i.imgur.com/pr5Hie9.jpg?1 (https://imgur.com/pr5Hie9)

DELTAprime
27th October 2017, 10:20 AM
I've been very restrained and only have 5 when I was going to get 3.

BigTransformerTrev
27th October 2017, 11:33 AM
I thought I was only going to have 3....

http://i.imgur.com/pr5Hie9.jpg?1 (https://imgur.com/pr5Hie9)

Wow I really like the contrast between the JP and US versions - makes me tempted to get some of the Legends ones myself. As it is I’ve just gotten 3 of the regular

UltraMarginal
27th October 2017, 03:16 PM
I'm getting one of the Takara ones, I now have 3 of the Hasbro ones, I may pick up more if they end up available at the reject shop for $10 or something. I'm going to add some colour detailing to some of them so they all look a little different.

bowspearer
1st November 2017, 08:31 AM
So I was restrained originally and got 4-5 of the Hasbro ones......

Then the Takara release came along and I bought 13 of them....

philby
1st November 2017, 09:36 AM
So I was restrained originally and got 4-5 of the Hasbro ones......

Then the Takara release came along and I bought 13 of them....

Oh wow! A proper army haha. Show us 🙂

Bumbleb33
1st November 2017, 11:48 AM
Man I keep forgetting to post my army of 16, got a pending order with Ami Ami at the mo, was thinking of dropping in a couple of Tak Sharkticons into that order as well.