MakeToys MTRM-08 DESPOTRON

[drifand]

Maketoys take on Megatron

http://maketoys.jp/products/despotron/

The choosenprime have good pics and is out on pre order.

So who wants this?

[Ralph Wiggum]

He looks a little chunky for my liking, like Megatron on steroids.

I'll stick with my Appolyon until TT come up with something better (yeah right)

[drifand]

He looks a little chunky for my liking, like Megatron on steroids.

I'll stick with my Appolyon until TT come up with something better (yeah right)

Actually that's what I felt about Appolyon and this actually looks right.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Lol, funny how people see things completely differently. A side-by-side comparison would be interesting in the future.

[Smint]

I want this. Nice and beefy just the way i like them.

[drifand]

Lol, funny how people see things completely differently. A side-by-side comparison would be interesting in the future.

The thing is this version the gun also looks right.

[leej84]

Anyone seen the dx9 version? Ben's collectable has a video review on him already, minus the back pack and lack of waist swivel he looks pretty good. But still not enough for me to replace my Apollyon.

This maketoys version looks just as good as the dx9 version but they r adding their own twist to the g1 aesthetic much like their gundog, in which I'm not the biggest fan of.

[kurdt_the_goat]

They all look good overall, but Despotron's proportions remind me of the Revoltech Megatron which isn't as G1 cartoon looking to my eye. From the video review, Mightron looks very solid and way less intimidating to transform than Apollyon. From the waist up he looks good, but the legs need more curvature. Apollyon still looks the best to me even if he's a little stumpy.

They're all tiny issues, so by the time Takara's rolls around i'm sure it'll be the best, and my Apollyon won't serve much purpose then... so another 2 doppelgangers isn't exactly money well spent for me!

[Omega Metro]

I don't have Apollyon so am seriously looking at DX9 Mightron or Despotron. Both look good but leaning towards Despotron as it doesn't have ugly back kibble but is bordering on looking more like something from Generations than G1 MP. Decisions decisions :confused:

[drifand]

Is weird the dx9 doesn't appeal to me one bit. I can get an Apollyon but I think this one feels better posing ability. Yes I think is a bit beefed up but not in a bad way. Not sure I should pre order now or wait on colour test shot.

[kurdt_the_goat]

I wasn't just imagining the similarity to Revoltech Megatroni... they're even using the same poses! Headsculpt is miles better though!

http://i.imgur.com/jS4o0GFl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4BD4kxxl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nJTUU1Sl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0KWzqJbl.jpg

[drifand]

First pic doesn't really look the same and imo maketoys win in the first, rovotech is kneeling whereas the maketoys is not.
Second one is an expected pose so I think is ok. Would be nice to see Apollyon doing the same?

[ITZTRU]

First pic doesn't really look the same

Yeah Kurdt!!! The first pic doesn't look the same!! Get it right, man. Geeze. :rolleyes:;) (note the sarcasm)

[kurdt_the_goat]

Well obviously the first one is flipped, but otherwise it's pretty similar.

I'm not very good at matching the poses but here's an attempt with Apollyon.

http://i.imgur.com/ijdqJwb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Th0wyqN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Tbkjz3t.jpg

;)

[Trent]

I'm struggling to make the connection on the first two pictures. I can't say they're the same pose. Maybe if you really want too see it?

[drifand]

Nice attempt kurt

To those of you who don't know me, I do like to see agility in posing.
Not here to smash any brand in particular.

We are here because we don't have the patience for TT to finally make one.

[spiderken17]

I think the head sculpt on the Maketoys one does it for me. I am considering buying one because I don't see TT ever making another gunformer and I would really like a Megatron for my MP collection.

[drifand]

So no gun extensions? A bit lazy at this stage of the game being everyone else has.

[Smint]

Agree with spiderken. The face looks perfect to me. Make toys seems to know how to sculpt nice faces. It must be an art or something because face sculpts tend to vary wildly even among the top names.

[drifand]

Agree with spiderken. The face looks perfect to me. Make toys seems to know how to sculpt nice faces. It must be an art or something because face sculpts tend to vary wildly even among the top names.

It is that, I don't know why, some how Appolyon was missing some aspects and I don't have the feel for it. I don't normally jump on a toy but when I do I know some thing was done right to push me to want one.

With that, I be skipping on galvatron. I just am tired of waiting TT to make the remaining popular wants. And even if they do their qc has not been that great.
20 mp figures have past and no magatron or galvatron, it's depressing.

[ZoonMaster5000]

I've been thinking the opposite with head sculpt while the rest of him is very nice and clean except for the trigger guard sticking out the back. I just feel that the head looks a bit youthful like it was before the cybertronian war, before the anger started to build.

It wasn't until I saw him beside appolyon that I noticed just how much more battle hardened appolyon face looks in comparison to despotron.
In hand colour test shots might prove me wrong though.

[Omega Metro]

Preordered Despotron. But have the option of cancelling it for Mightron if I get convinced enough.:D....or the announcement of Takaras version:eek:

[leej84]

I've been thinking the opposite with head sculpt while the rest of him is very nice and clean except for the trigger guard sticking out the back. I just feel that the head looks a bit youthful like it was before the cybertronian war, before the anger started to build.

It wasn't until I saw him beside appolyon that I noticed just how much more battle hardened appolyon face looks in comparison to despotron.
In hand colour test shots might prove me wrong though.

This. I couldn't put it into words but this is exactly what I think too. I just can't get over the head sculpt.

I also just watched peaughs vid review on mightron and he showed it off with Apollyon. I gotta say it looks so much better than Apollyon. Wow now I'm tempted lol

[drifand]

Well we all have a lot of choices, I personally not sure if TT is up for the challenge against 3p.

like to see this in colour.

[drifand]

Coloured pics are up in maketoys fb page

Pre ordered.

[Smint]

They changed the standard face? I dont think this ones an improvement. Did people really complain about the original one?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Pretty impressive in colour, the gun mode especially. That evil laugh face though...

I'm pretty happy with my Appolyon. It's not perfect, but I've yet to find a perfect MP Megatron mold. Anything is better than MP-05, and whether TT will do a new Megs is anybody's guess.

[Ravagecat]

Preordered Despotron. But have the option of cancelling it for Mightron if I get convinced enough.:D....or the announcement of Takaras version:eek:

Hey just curious as to where you have pre-ordered Despotron from?

Also will he look like this when it arrives? :rolleyes:

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p498/ravagecat/th_RM08_Despoton_Plugged_zpsa2u6mzio.jpg (http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/ravagecat/media/RM08_Despoton_Plugged_zpsa2u6mzio.jpg.html)

BBTS seem to be the only online source for this guy that have stated the following:

"To comply with United States Toy & Imitation Gun Laws, a blaze orange safety tip will be added to the end of the gun barrel. Only the rounded tip of the plug will be visible; the shaft of the plug will be inserted into the barrel and permanently attached with adhesive. The adhesive will not be applied to the face of the barrel. Please do not attempt to remove the permanently installed barrel plug as it will damage your figure.

This modification requires that all boxes will be opened, and the contents removed for modification. Factory tape seals on the package and the clamshell will be cut and resealed; and the plastic clamshell itself may be cut to make room for the gun barrel after the orange plug is applied.

Below we have included the actual law pertaining to imitation firearms. Please remember that our solution to remain compliant with the US Toy & Imitation Gun law is the only legal way for us to be able to offer this item to our customers........."

Anyone happen to know what Australian Customs stand is going to be on this toy? Will each state follow the same rules as they did with MP Megatron I wonder?

I am really interested in getting Despotron but not if it's going to be seized at customs and/or vandalized :eek:

[drifand]

Don't ask, you be opening can of worms and I will hate you for it for alerting them. And this is beside the fact wa is okay anyway is just extra red tape unnecessary.

Buy it and act blur if the customs do ask you. And said I thought is a toy robot .

As stated on fb is in robot form and will not show any gun mode on the box.

People who bought Apollyon did the same so hush hush and you get it. Ask questions and everybody gets nothing.

Several websites selling, pre orders close next week. Go to any maketoys rep distribution and order.

Stupid thing is you can buy a real gun in us for cheaper.lol

If you are afraid then don't buy. Is plain straight forward.

It doesn't fire anything so I am not bothered if they question me. I am ready to say I bought it for robot form

As for faces , multiple to choose from is not a one face thingy so no issues for me.

[Ralph Wiggum]

It depends on your State's laws, there's a good chance it could be seized by customs as it resembles a firearm. There's a very good chance it would be picked up if the toy is boxed in gun mode (hence showing on x-ray) rather than bot mode.

Back in the day, I had to fill this in to bring in MP-05 Megs :p

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k234/jollyrob81/1BD16404-7484-4208-8796-C16AAD331795_zpsqyn1zd56.jpg

Showing it to customs on my return was pretty funny as well!

[laproblematique]

It depends on your State's laws, there's a good chance it could be seized by customs as it resembles a firearm. There's a very good chance it would be picked up if the toy is boxed in gun mode (hence showing on x-ray) rather than bot mode.

Back in the day, I had to fill this in to bring in MP-05 Megs :p

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k234/jollyrob81/1BD16404-7484-4208-8796-C16AAD331795_zpsqyn1zd56.jpg

Showing it to customs on my return was pretty funny as well!

That's odd, I had no problem bringing my MP-05 back from a holiday in Hong Kong back in '09. They didn't even question me.

[drifand]

That's odd, I had no problem bringing my MP-05 back from a holiday in Hong Kong back in '09. They didn't even question me.

Need to know basis, is just for show.

[Ralph Wiggum]

That's odd, I had no problem bringing my MP-05 back from a holiday in Hong Kong back in '09. They didn't even question me.

Well the proofs in the pudding: http://www.smh.com.au/national/toy-that-changes-into-replica-gun-seized-20070511-c65.html

Quite frankly if I hadn't of said anything, it's likely I could've snuck MP-05 back in. Megatron is boxed in bot mode (same with Apployon) and wouldn't have been suspicious on the x-ray scanners. But alll I did was tick the "firearms" box on the customs form on arrival, they pulled me aside and I showed them Megatron along with the approved permit. Even the customs guy was amused that I had to get a permit for poor old Megatron.

If I was picked up for a random suitcase search and not declared I had MP-05, then things would've been interesting. I have no desire to end up as another one of those Asian people you see on Border Security ;)

So basically I preferred to play it safe. Getting a permit cost me nothing but a bit of time.

[Trent]

Hey just curious as to where you have pre-ordered Despotron from?

Also will he look like this when it arrives? :rolleyes:

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p498/ravagecat/th_RM08_Despoton_Plugged_zpsa2u6mzio.jpg (http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/ravagecat/media/RM08_Despoton_Plugged_zpsa2u6mzio.jpg.html)

BBTS seem to be the only online source for this guy that have stated the following:

"To comply with United States Toy & Imitation Gun Laws, a blaze orange safety tip will be added to the end of the gun barrel. Only the rounded tip of the plug will be visible; the shaft of the plug will be inserted into the barrel and permanently attached with adhesive. The adhesive will not be applied to the face of the barrel. Please do not attempt to remove the permanently installed barrel plug as it will damage your figure.

This modification requires that all boxes will be opened, and the contents removed for modification. Factory tape seals on the package and the clamshell will be cut and resealed; and the plastic clamshell itself may be cut to make room for the gun barrel after the orange plug is applied.

Below we have included the actual law pertaining to imitation firearms. Please remember that our solution to remain compliant with the US Toy & Imitation Gun law is the only legal way for us to be able to offer this item to our customers........."

Anyone happen to know what Australian Customs stand is going to be on this toy? Will each state follow the same rules as they did with MP Megatron I wonder?

I am really interested in getting Despotron but not if it's going to be seized at customs and/or vandalized :eek:

We have a thread which deals with this exact question. I suggest any questions/comments are moved there and you have a thorough read of the first post :)

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20265

[Ravagecat]

We have a thread which deals with this exact question. I suggest any questions/comments are moved there and you have a thorough read of the first post :)
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Hey Trent, thanks for this (appreciate it) but I know of this thread already and understand what is required to own these types of toys. Was more wanting to know if this toy would follow the same guidelines for owning MP Megs. Clearly it would so it should of been obvious to me :o. At the end of the day customs will do what they will do and as long as people follow the rules for their state there shouldn't be any problems owning this toy I imagine...

My main question which has been overlooked was if anyone knew whether all online seller's of this toy are going to do what BBTS has stated on their website with the orange plug? I'd be pretty annoyed if I ordered this from a source that hasn't mentioned the plug but did it anyway...

[Ralph Wiggum]

Actually your question was what customs would do about the toy, hence our little spiel, not whether retailers would be putting the orange plug in. :)

If you want to minimise your chances of an orange plug, buy from a Japan or Hong Kong or Asia based retailer where there are no such requirement. I got my MP-05 direct from Singapore and he didn't have an orange plug. Off the top of my head, my Appolyon did have an orange plug but it wasn't attached with adhesive and I pulled mine out easily.

[drifand]

I had people buying from Hong Kong sources for Appolyon and it included the plug.

Ask the seller question?

[Pep_87]

so does anyone here know of any aussie retailers that are getting this guy in? are any of you guys setup with your licenses that would get an extra for someone else.

[drifand]

so does anyone here know of any aussie retailers that are getting this guy in? are any of you guys setup with your licenses that would get an extra for someone else.

No, not that I know any who would bother for the amount of hassles. You just need to have the balls to buy one. You are probably afraid which is understandable however given that maketoys has made efforts not showing him in gun mode in any pics of their box and have excluded the silencer and extend stalk. It's probably going to pass right through.

You can pay someone in wa to buy it and send it to you otherwise .

There is a video review now
http://youtu.be/2nGfrBqpop4

I wished I had more face choices but I am okay with it.

[Gofigure]

I was all "im happy with my Apolly but have a look at that Despotron! holy moly he looks fine with different faces and wot not....i want him"

And now im all "oooooh wow, look at what Takara has over in that corner" :D

[drifand]

I was all "im happy with my Apolly but have a look at that Despotron! holy moly he looks fine with different faces and wot not....i want him"

And now im all "oooooh wow, look at what Takara has over in that corner" :D

Takara looks rushed. I would still buy both.

[Trent]

Takara looks rushed. I would still buy both.

Rushed?


Takara have been rumoured to have Megs on the verge of release since MP-10. He's anything but rushed.

[drifand]

Rushed?


Takara have been rumoured to have Megs on the verge of release since MP-10. He's anything but rushed.

Hmm the not straight barrel says otherwise and no colour means they did not work on it only recently. Rushed in terms of picking up a worked on project which was left collected with dust because they were trying their best not to release him.

Look I am not bashing it but it is an obvious attempt to cut sales of maketoys and dx9? Those rumours are poor imo as I think they are pressured to release Megatron because Japanese toy reviews of maketoys has given some thumbs up.

https://youtu.be/lZObO9xyMZs

Either way I am buying this and TT version since I have a spare mp-10 to line both of them up. I am trying not to be negative on anything so let's be nice.

From this review this is the very reason why dx9 was not my pick as it looks out of proportion. The maketoys may not be a masterpiece but I am going to give them the credit.

Imo if what you say is true that magatron is not rushed, then there is no need to leak anything. I say they felt the pressure by 3p work this excludes hoist and trailbreaker which are already done by three manufacturers now, I am not surprised if TT is prepared to leak further.

I used to be all official and not acknowledge 3p work but lately with "shutter glass" release I am questioning who is the Ko now?

And to be on track with topic, one reason I am still buying this piece is because his scope canon is bigger and longer which may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's certainly mine.

I like to see what TT has to offer for their Megatron as they are not known to be as agile or they seem to be picking the wrong screen in terms of colour matching in the most final moments.

[gamblor916]

Mine is on the way. I'm covered with a permit but I'm hoping it just shows up in the post.

[Lord_Zed]

I almost bought this guy, but I'm holding out to see what this so supposedly official one can offer.

Fans can and will argue till their blue on the face about which Megs is best, but I reckon they will all have something to offer. While I'm not sold on this guys looks the thing that really tempts me with this guy is the articulation, the poses I've seen him in have been phenomenal, and that's something I doubt the others will match.

[drifand]

I almost bought this guy, but I'm holding out to see what this so supposedly official one can offer.

Fans can and will argue till their blue on the face about which Megs is best, but I reckon they will all have something to offer. While I'm not sold on this guys looks the thing that really tempts me with this guy is the articulation, the poses I've seen him in have been phenomenal, and that's something I doubt the others will match.

I solely went for articulation and his scope being longer, I know TT one is short so I have best of both. The transformation is also cleverly done. Can't wait for it on hands.

Mightron is only $150 delivered.

[SuspectimusPrime]

Fans can and will argue till their blue on the face about which Megs is best, but I reckon they will all have something to offer. While I'm not sold on this guys looks the thing that really tempts me with this guy is the articulation, the poses I've seen him in have been phenomenal, and that's something I doubt the others will match.

The articulation looks amazing. Thought I was looking at a Reveltech figure for a second.

[drifand]

The articulation looks amazing. Thought I was looking at a Reveltech figure for a second.

A lot do feel it is a Revoltech figure, I think it's still great as this transforms.

[Gofigure]

Talk about a case of good problems at the moment lol

[ZoonMaster5000]

Mine is on the way. I'm covered with a permit but I'm hoping it just shows up in the post.

Any chance you could let us know how you go with customs?
i.e whether customs actually contact you or if it just gets delivered no problems.

[leej84]

It's in robot mode in box. Shipping shouldn't be an issue

[drifand]

Any chance you could let us know how you go with customs?
i.e whether customs actually contact you or if it just gets delivered no problems.

You get contacted by customs if stopped otherwise as per normal.

[drifand]

It's in robot mode in box. Shipping shouldn't be an issue

Apparently once customs are aware of the product they be trained to look out for it. Especially TT version with stalk and silencer will give a red flag.

One reason probably why maketoys didn't bother with it.

[gamblor916]

Mine has snuck in under the radar. Pics to come.

[drifand]

Mine has snuck in under the radar. Pics to come.

Is there an issue with the leg as locking in placed?

[leej84]

Is there an issue with the leg as locking in placed?

There's a fix for it on YouTube.

[ZoonMaster5000]

There's a fix for it on YouTube.

Lol the one I saw involved plastic flexing a nail punch and a hammer!

[drifand]

Lol the one I saw involved plastic flexing a nail punch and a hammer!

That sounds bad. Going have to say a bit disappointed that they over looked this.