JP Legends 44-46 revealed

[DELTAprime]

BBTS just put up some preorders for a LG Sharkticon, Hot Rodimus and Kup. Of note is Hotrod and Kup are listed as Targetmasters.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=3501

[griffin]

There aren't any images yet, and these look like they might be released in September (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/04/05/order-listings-shown-takara-lg-hot-rodimus-kup-sharkticon-336721) (Dinosaurer/Trypticon is LG43 in August).

The "Targetmaster" for Kup and Hot Rodimus might have a modification to be actual Targetmasters, or is just the name to note them as being the newer "master" versions, from their earlier Henkei/United versions. (like Leader class Powermaster Optimus not being an actual Powermaster, but just looking like that 80s toy)

[prjkt]

They possibly come with the TM vehicles like some of the earlier LG versions of the TR line

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Interesting to note that Sharkticon comes with Sweep as well. So if you like the comic and want some spare sweep heads you can army build both Sharky and sweeps. Though in the legends world, there are only 6 Sweeps (including Scourge).

Personally I hope that the Targetmaster guys come with something better than those stupid TM vehicles.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/images-of-takara-tomy-legends-targetmaster-hot-rodimus-targetmaster-char-and-sharkticon/37753/

* Sweep is a slightly remolded Scourge head
* Hot Rod and Kup come with new targetmasters
* New faceplates for Hot Rod and Kup along with new arms for Kup and new chest for Hot Rod
* Kup is grey.

Aaaa

[FatalityPitt]

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/images-of-takara-tomy-legends-targetmaster-hot-rodimus-targetmaster-char-and-sharkticon/37753/

* Sweep is a slightly remolded Scourge head
* Hot Rod and Kup come with new targetmasters
* New faceplates for Hot Rod and Kup along with new arms for Kup and new chest for Hot Rod
* Kup is grey.

Aaaa

At first I thought those Targetmasters were retools or re-uses of Arms Microns. It turns out that they're totally new molds.

Even though this version of Kup is grey, I like it a lot better than the Titans Return version. His face sort of reminds me of Rokusaburo Michiba.

[Omega Metro]

I had high hopes for Kup. Oh well.:confused:

[griffin]

I wonder why Kup is all grey. Was he grey in the JP Headmasters cartoon.

[Ploughmans Lunch]

I wonder why Kup is all grey. Was he grey in the JP Headmasters cartoon.

Whoever decided/approved the colours might've been going off degraded source material from the Headmasters anime. Apparently it's referencing inaccurate colours from Five Faces of Darkness/The Rebirth. Seems odd, whatever.

[Shirokaze]

Even though Kup turned out a bit odd, I can appreciate the effort they put into these. Sharkticon looks great! :D

[Initial_G]

Wow, Kup is totally not what I expected, might still get him for the targetmaster though I guess. Even Hot Rod isn't quite what I was thinking but at least he's still similar enough. Actually I'm interested to see how these targetmaster would compare to Mastershooter versions.

Agreed that the sharkticon looks great ... I guess you can army build it and get a bunch of sweep heads too ... but need to get some more scourge deluxes ... wonder if there are any scourges about still ... I think TT scourge and a bunch of Hasbro scourge with sweeps head might be alright

[DELTAprime]

Well I like Takara's grey Kup more than Hasbro's comic accurate Kup. Just have to keep an eye on HLJ for preorders now.

With the rumour that what comes after Titans Return is going to be Targetmasters I wonder if these are early examples of what we will have in the next CHUG line?

[SharkyMcShark]

I quite like that Kup with the Targetmaster on the back and the Titanmaster rear gunning.

[DELTAprime]

They are up at HLJ!

https://hlj.com/product/TKT96378

https://hlj.com/product/TKT96379

https://hlj.com/product/TKT96381

[GoktimusPrime]

Heh, nice move with redecoing Scourge as "Sweep." :) Army builder awaaay!


Wow, Kup is totally not what I expected, might still get him for the targetmaster though I guess.
You'd pay $45 before postage for a transforming gun? :confused: You know that Generations figures have 5mm post weapons, same as the G1 Targetmasters - i.e. if you already have G1/reissue TM Kup then the Generations figure ought to be able to hold Recoil. Even if we estimate the value of the individual Targetmaster to be about $5 (half the price of those individual Titan Masters since it doesn't come w/ a vehicle) and the Sharkticon as say $20 (Legends RRP), that's still $25 (before postage) excess that you're paying.

Obviously it's your money and you can spend it however you like, but just sayin' that if it's the Targetmaster and Sharkticon that interests you over the core figure (Kup), then it's gonna be one pret-ty expensive purchase. :o

[Bumbleb33]

I knew TakTom would give us an alternate head for Kup but never expected a revised colour. Kup looks great in the grey but...
Rod looks great as well but I feel the minor colour variation and black boots is just not sufficient enough reason to justify replacing the Hasbro version.
Gnaw looks great in his movie colours but I feel the Hasbro just pops a little more, I have also already committed to 16 Hasbro Gnaws I don't think I can justify more TakTom Gnaws.

[Raider]

PC has Hot Rod listed at $32.95 plus postage.

[CHILENO20]

They are tempting. Wasn't sold on Hasbro Kup but TakTom Kup works so much better.

[ZoonMaster5000]

I was put off by the grey on kup too but he might different in hand so I ordered 2 of each and 10 sharkticons:p from hlj as I've decided not to touch pc unless I have too.

[Lord_Zed]

Interesting take on Kup, grey seems an odd choice, but it also makes him really unique, tempting.

Takara's Hot Rod deco looks leagues above the local version which I happily skipped, though I'm still not sure I like the base mold that much.

[DELTAprime]

Whoever decided/approved the colours might've been going off degraded source material from the Headmasters anime. Apparently it's referencing inaccurate colours from Five Faces of Darkness/The Rebirth. Seems odd, whatever.

Just watched the first two episodes of FFoD, Kup varies shot by shot from a desaturated version of his normal colours to completely grey like this release. Still like him better than the Hasbro release.

[hYpNoS]

...No one's noticed the sweep head is different?

I welcome having a wario head :D

https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17862720_10155196627172265_5437987578209561615_n.j pg?oh=67997329838cd95a7e8cfb2b4dab7970&oe=598F8A84

[CHILENO20]

Is the left one the Hasbro version or the TakTom version?

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Is the left one the Hasbro version or the TakTom version?

Hasbro, the TT one looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/lUfue8v.jpg

[CHILENO20]

So the new head as a tache' instead of the fu man chu


Hasbro, the TT one looks like this:


I thought so thanks :)

[GoktimusPrime]

I guess looking like Wario is better than looking like a 70s adult film star. :p

[CHILENO20]

I guess looking like Wario is better than looking like a 70s adult film star. :p

"I'vst come to clean zee pool" :cool:

[DELTAprime]

I ended up ordering a second Gnaw just to have a second Sweep head. I have 3 Scourge's, so with two Sweep heads I think that will make a nice subtle change between Scourge and his Sweeps.

[Bidoofdude]

Kup looks really nice, the grey threw me, but it almost makes sense. Chances are they'll make a more teal version down the line.

[prjkt]

"I'vst come to clean zee pool" :cool:

"I've come to sweep ze pool"

[CHILENO20]

"I've come to sweep ze pool"

Buahahahahahahahaha!

[FatalityPitt]

Ah, another Scourge/Sweep head to destroy.

I transformed my copy of Scourge from vehicle to robot, and I forgot to take Fracas out of the cockpit. You can imagine the result..

In seriousness though, I think it's cool they're doing another variation of the Scourge head. Even if you haven't destroyed your Scourge head like I did and need another, you can still give this Sweep head to your other Scourges to distinguish them from the real Scourge. This makes the idea of buying 2 or more TR/Legends Scourges justifiable.

[philby]

Hmm. If I get one more hasbro sharkticon, then order one of these takara sharkticons I will have a little squad of 5 and the takara one could stand out as a sharkticon sargeant or something. Or I could just not get any more and be satisfied with what I have...

[DELTAprime]

Hmm. If I get one more hasbro sharkticon, then order one of these takara sharkticons I will have a little squad of 5 and the takara one could stand out as a sharkticon sargeant or something. Or I could just not get any more and be satisfied with what I have...

Come on, you know you want more...
:p

[CHILENO20]

Hmm. If I get one more hasbro sharkticon, then order one of these takara sharkticons I will have a little squad of 5 and the takara one could stand out as a sharkticon sargeant or something. Or I could just not get any more and be satisfied with what I have...

Had the same idea


Come on, you know you want more...
:p

A whole battalion :D

[Borgeman]

Im going with the idea of a 5 and 2 combo - 4 Has and one Tak in shark mode, and one of each in robot mode

[FatalityPitt]

Some good news about Takara Legends Kup; it turns out he's not so gray afterall.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-images-takara-tomy-legends-kup/37824/

[Bidoofdude]

Some good news about Takara Legends Kup; it turns out he's not so gray afterall.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-images-takara-tomy-legends-kup/37824/

That's a really big change in the comparison. I wouldn't be completely surprised if they simply changed the grey to a more teal colour in response. Seems hard to mess up with lighting.

[griffin]

Certainly a lot better... but could go just a little further.

[DELTAprime]

Still looks like AKOM animation errors, but I still like it.

[Lord_Zed]

I dunno, I still like the grey one. it's hard to find a good grey Transformer, most grey bots are cheap Hasbro grey.

[griffin]

A hobby magazine scan (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-magazine-scan-shows-takara-tomy-legends-kup-and-hot-rods-new-retooled-parts/37873/) shows us the new chest panel for Hot Rodimus, and another look at the new Targetmaster guns.

[MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!]

Higher quality scan of Figure King No. 231 (https://www.facebook.com/loopaza/photos/pcb.1443049765756534/1443044399090404/?type=3&theater):

http://i.imgur.com/Z8L0lvn.jpg

[DELTAprime]

I like Takara going to the extra effort of these minor remoulds instead of just redecos.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's interesting how LG figures in Japan are just FLYING off shelves, even when the Deluxes are nearly double our prices (due to the inclusion of the bonus Titan Master vehicle), yet our figures with cheaper Deluxes and about same prices for other size classes aren't selling nearly as quickly. With the exception of Soundwave and Ravage, I could not find any LGs in my recent trip to Japan, and in the trip that I went on last week LGs were also not easy to find - now it's near impossible.

I spoke to one store employee in Tokyo who confirmed that LG has been their strongest selling TF line. I can still find MPs a-plenty (except for the BW MPs, they were all sold out everywhere), Movie series (despite being heavily promoted atm) etc. - all fairly easy to find. But Legends? Good freakin' luck! :eek: TAV is a mixed bag - half of those figures are shelfwarming while others are selling well. I went to my local Target yesterday and they'd restocked on Deluxe and Legends TR figures (so many Sharkticons!). I wouldn't say that they're shelfwarming per se, but just not flying off shelves like their LG counterparts are in Japan.

[FatalityPitt]

It's interesting how LG figures in Japan are just FLYING off shelves, even when the Deluxes are nearly double our prices (due to the inclusion of the bonus Titan Master vehicle), yet our figures with cheaper Deluxes and about same prices for other size classes aren't selling nearly as quickly. With the exception of Soundwave and Ravage, I could not find any LGs in my recent trip to Japan, and in the trip that I went on last week LGs were also not easy to find - now it's near impossible.


Probably nostalgia. The Headmasters anime was the first exclusive Japanese G1 series (followed by MF, Victory, Zone, etc). I don't know how popular it was when it aired in Japan, but I imagine people who grew up watching that series would have a much bigger disposable income these days. Some might even buy the Headmasters for their kids to show them how Transformers should be like. Movie toys? Transformers Adventure? Bah!!

[philby]

Is there any update on release other than 'September'?
I have 2x Sharktron on pre-order along with something else in-stock right now and just pondering paying a little extra and shipping the in-stock item now.

Also, I don't have any need really for the titan master heads so I am willing to sell those off if anyone needs them.

[griffin]

Looks like they are back to September 22nd (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=24709). (they were originally on the 22nd, then pushed back to the 29th, but now back to the 22nd)

[philby]

Ok thanks! I will wait and see what RK say.

[griffin]

The three JP Legends for this month have been acquired in Japan, and photos have been posted up (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-in-hand-and-comparison-images-for-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg44-sharkticon-lg45-hot-rod-and-lg46-kup/39682/) with the Hasbro versions to show the differences in colours, sculpting and accessories.

[hYpNoS]

Ok thanks! I will wait and see what RK say.

Isn't the shipping a bit more with rk?

Because hlj has them in stock comfortably and I presume amiami as well

[philby]

Isn't the shipping a bit more with rk?

Because hlj has them in stock comfortably and I presume amiami as well

Generally yes but i think hlj was on order stop at the time and i ordered them with the sdcc figure which only robot kingdom had also i think

[griffin]

HLJ finally charged me for my three yesterday. So much waiting with all the delays... but then again, what do I care, as they will be sitting there until November for that months toys to come out (before the 60 days are up... if they don't get delayed as well).

[griffin]

Scans of the bios and mini-comics for the three October toys have been posted up (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/images-of-pack-in-comics-and-tech-specs-for-takara-transformers-legends-kup-hot-rod-and-sharkticon/39711/).

[griffin]

It's been noted that there are some production flaws/QC issues on the LG45 Targetmaster Hotrod - specifically the face (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/production-error-on-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg45-targetmaster-hot-rod/39766/). About half of them have some very noticeable bumps on the bottom of the lower lip, which could annoy people who spent a fair bit on importing it from Japan.
At least if you are in Japan, you could look for a good one at the store before you buy it.

[ZoonMaster5000]

It's been noted that there are some production flaws/QC issues on the LG45 Targetmaster Hotrod - specifically the face (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/production-error-on-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg45-targetmaster-hot-rod/39766/). About half of them have some very noticeable bumps on the bottom of the lower lip, which could annoy people who spent a fair bit on importing it from Japan.
At least if you are in Japan, you could look for a good one at the store before you buy it.

Ive picked up 2 from hlj but knowing my luck they will both have this space herpes and its quite a noticable flaw too. Hate to be the person who signed of on the qc for this run.

[Initial_G]

It's been noted that there are some production flaws/QC issues on the LG45 Targetmaster Hotrod - specifically the face (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/production-error-on-takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg45-targetmaster-hot-rod/39766/). About half of them have some very noticeable bumps on the bottom of the lower lip, which could annoy people who spent a fair bit on importing it from Japan.
At least if you are in Japan, you could look for a good one at the store before you buy it.

Another thing to check! First I've heard of this production issue (for Hot Rod). Also I just found out about the incorrectly assembled leg panel on the Kup mold.