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griffin
28th April 2017, 12:55 AM
The rumoured second Movie Masterpiece toy (numbered as 4, despite 1 & 2 being Japanese toys), is Optimus Prime (which many people knew already)... and it has finally been officially shown off (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-images-of-transformers-movie-masterpiece-mpm4-optimus-prime/37941/) today in China by Hasbro (https://www.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/posts/1365106140221989).

Oddly enough, it is not the TF4-5 Optimus version (the new truck form), but the TF1-3 Optimus version.

It does note it being the 10th anniversary of the Movie series, so having the original form is applicable... but it looks a lot like the Leader/Striker Optimus toy, and might put off a lot of people who might have been expecting, and willing to pay a "masterpiece" price for a kibble-less leader sized TF4-5 Optimus toy.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2017/042802.jpg
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http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2017/042801.jpg

kurdt_the_goat
28th April 2017, 01:35 AM
It does note it being the 10th anniversary of the Movie series, so having the original form is applicable... but it looks a lot like the Leader/Striker Optimus toy, and might put off a lot of people who might have been expecting, and willing to pay a "masterpiece" price for a kibble-less leader sized TF4-5 Optimus toy.

Not me! The first Prime design is better with all the truck parts visible... and it's not like they won't do the TF4-5 version some time later ;)

Wormz
28th April 2017, 01:46 AM
I also am strangly interested in this

Magnus
28th April 2017, 01:51 AM
I'm definitely curious as to what this figure does differently to the RotF leader class mould, which was regarded as having Masterpiece-level engineering itself. So far it seems that the truck headlights on the lower torso are the actual truck headlights, not faux items like the ones on the previous mould, and the panels on the back seem to fold differently.

hYpNoS
28th April 2017, 02:02 AM
I'm definitely curious as to what this figure does differently to the RotF leader class mould, which was regarded as having Masterpiece-level engineering itself. So far it seems that the truck headlights on the lower torso are the actual truck headlights, not faux items like the ones on the previous mould, and the panels on the back seem to fold differently.

Well the gun and swords can combine into...a gun turret that clips into the rear of the truck.

griffin
28th April 2017, 04:20 AM
Following the unveiling of this toy to a public event in China (sounds like it was one of those midnight toy launches), Hasbro have released official images and a press release to go with the first look at the toy.
Unwatermarked images can be seen here (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/04/27/official-masterpiece-movie-optimus-prime-images-details-337904).



This year marks the 10th anniversary of Paramount and Michael Bay’s first Transformers blockbuster movie. We’re celebrating this milestone with the release of the OPTIMUS PRIME MPM-4 figure which is inspired by the iconic OPTIMUS PRIME character in the original 2007 TRANSFORMERS film. Co-created by Hasbro and Tomy, the figure converts from robot to classic truck mode and features eye-catching detail, articulated fingers and an interchangeable mask – perfect for fans and collectors alike.

TRANSFORMERS MASTERPIECE MOVIE SERIES OPTIMUS PRIME MPM-4 Figure
(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $99.99/Available: Summer 2017)
Get in the action with the latest figure from the MASTERPIECE MOVIE SERIES, the OPTIMUS PRIME MPM-4 figure! Co-created by Hasbro and Tomy, the figure is inspired by the iconic OPTIMUS PRIME character in the original 2007 TRANSFORMERS film and celebrates the 10th anniversary of the TRANSFORMERS movie franchise. Pay homage to the great AUTOBOT leader with all the detail you expect from a MASTERPIECE product, including die cast parts! The OPTIMUS PRIME MPM-4 figure converts from robot to classic truck mode and showcases Earth’s greatest protector with eye-catching detail, articulated fingers and an interchangeable mask – perfect for fans and collectors alike. The sleek, signature flame design is emblematic of his inextinguishable drive to fight for freedom. Converts in 43 steps and comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory and other exciting weapon accessories.

Dimi194
28th April 2017, 06:48 AM
Also interested, but considering I own 4 versions of the ROTF leader mold I'd need to see what was actually different between them.

Shirokaze
28th April 2017, 08:23 AM
The official pics make his torso look rather round, perhaps it's just the angle. Paint aps look great though! I only own the first version of ROTF Leader Prime so the paint alone is enough to seal the deal for me.

doublespy
28th April 2017, 08:42 AM
Although TFW's front page claims it's an all new mould, it looks to be a heavy remold of the RotF Leader figure.

-face plate gimmick
-articulated fingers
-toolboxes on the legs are now tucked away (the original design did include this step but it was omitted on the final production)
-new forearm armors
-a waist joint due to the omission of sound gimmick
-various small remould throughout

I didn't think the changes to the RotF mold would be significant enough for me to justify a purchase but I sit corrected.

Now to wait for an MPM AoE/TLK version. The new Voyager mold gives me hope that it is indeed possible to recreate the design in plastic form. A Masterpiece figure based on knight design will be glorious.

FruitBuyer
28th April 2017, 09:48 AM
Looks really good, definitely keen on this as it looks to be a big enough of an upgrade over RotF Prime.

I really hope this line continues and isn't just a once off. It may eventually a MPM Grimlock down the line.

Bladestorm
28th April 2017, 10:41 AM
I'll be getting it purely for the faceplate and matrix gimmicks.
I really love the Peterbilt design so if this can be a transformable version close on par to the DMK in detail I'll be very happy.

griffin
28th April 2017, 11:21 AM
Although TFW's front page claims it's an all new mould, it looks to be a heavy remold of the RotF Leader figure.


With the huge official images now released, I was able to compare every part and limb of my Striker Optimus and the first release of that Leader mould, and there is nothing identical with the parts or sculpting. It's amazing at how each part is almost the same, especially the same bits of kibble in the same places, but there looks to be enough parts that are different to have a different transformation (to be a new design). Just like with most of the Movie Optimus toys, it's legs will be out the back and the arms up the front in truck mode, but beyond that, it should be mostly unique, but probably guided by the engineering of the Leader class toy (because it replicated the on-screen Optimus pretty well, so there wasn't much more you could improve on its appearance).

Jetfire in the sky
28th April 2017, 11:31 AM
I'm really interested in this figure, and releasing it like this is a great way to get a non-bayformer buyer like me to buy one.

DELTAprime
28th April 2017, 11:48 AM
If they had given these upgrades to Buster Optimus Prime I'd be all over this, but since it's the Voyager I'm passing on this.

FruitBuyer
28th April 2017, 12:16 PM
If they had given these upgrades to Buster Optimus Prime I'd be all over this, but since it's the Voyager I'm passing on this.

Voyager? What, it's at least Leader sized based on a picture of him in-hand.

Jetfire in the sky
28th April 2017, 12:32 PM
That's what I was wondering, how tall he is. Be great once comparison pics come up.

Bumbleb33
28th April 2017, 01:01 PM
It's evident to me that they have utilised the transformation scheme from ROTF Ldr Prime and expanded upon it to deliver an even more accurate depiction of Movie 1 thru' 3 Prime. The places this is most prevalent is in how his lower leg collapses and his crouch piece. Considering like many have already stated ROTF Prime's transformation scheme was MP level they really are not having to design from scratch rather perfecting what already exists. Much like the tweaking we saw in the ROTF to DOTM leader Prime.

DELTAprime
28th April 2017, 01:06 PM
Voyager? What, it's at least Leader sized based on a picture of him in-hand.

Isn't this just a remould of the Voyager toy??? MPM toys are normally just a standard toy with a fancy paint job.

Bumbleb33
28th April 2017, 01:17 PM
Isn't this just a remould of the Voyager toy??? MPM toys are normally just a standard toy with a fancy paint job.

This only true for for the first two which was Bumblebee and Starscream. The revised Bumblebee and Optimus are wholly their own designs and not repaints.

DELTAprime
28th April 2017, 01:31 PM
This only true for for the first two which was Bumblebee and Starscream. The revised Bumblebee and Optimus are wholly their own designs and not repaints.

Ok, yeah, got my Buster Prime off the shelf. It doesn't seem to share any of the same parts as Buster and looking at Seibertron's gallery of the Voyager that doesn't match up either so I'm saying new mould not remould.

Thing is while there are some elements that are more movie accurate there are many that are less movie accurate than Buster. Oh well.

EDIT: I wonder if the stock photographer might have him transformed wrong making him look less accurate.

FruitBuyer
28th April 2017, 01:46 PM
Hasbro photographers could never pose the figures

SharkyMcShark
28th April 2017, 02:52 PM
I would punch a man half to death for a Starscream in this line that isn't a repaint of the (admittedly excellent and already literally my favourite TF ever) Leader Class toy.

Prime looks pretty good and I will likely buy. I like that they're leaning into this line instead of just using it to release leader repaints with premium paint and pricing.

Magnus
28th April 2017, 06:26 PM
Well the gun and swords can combine into...a gun turret that clips into the rear of the truck.

There's that. It's good that the gun is a separate piece, since in a lot of cases I feel that the design of a weapon is compromised for the sake of storage, although the buster gun was a good execution of this idea.

Looking at pictures that have been released since, it's clear that this is an all-new mould and not just a heavy retool. I'm particularly curious to see differences in the upper torso, since there is no longer a need to accommodate a light and sound board, two AA batteries, and the Mech-Alive gimmick behind the windscreens.


Now to wait for an MPM AoE/TLK version. The new Voyager mold gives me hope that it is indeed possible to recreate the design in plastic form. A Masterpiece figure based on knight design will be glorious.

That would be nice. I'd be up for that.

I think the issue with the AoE leader mould is that Optimus was a new design that the toy designers didn't have enough time to work with to properly translate into a toy in time for its intended release. This is an issue with movieverse toys, and it's why figures in subsequent movies with the same CGI models are better. Examples are RotF leader Optimus and voyager Starscream, HftD leader Starscream and Battle Blades Bumblebee, and now TLK voyager Optimus.


Isn't this just a remould of the Voyager toy??? MPM toys are normally just a standard toy with a fancy paint job.

The first two MPMs were the Japanese releases of HftD leader Starscream and Battle Ops Bumblebee, so as far as the Japanese consumers were concerned, they were new moulds and not cheaper toys with nice paint jobs. Both had pretty good engineering.

This figure and MPM-3 are all-new moulds.

Someone on Reddit posted this album. (https://imgur.com/a/Ms0bN) I'm not sure where some of the photos were taken. Note that the figure in the display box is mistransformed.

Ralph Wiggum
28th April 2017, 06:44 PM
If I didn't have my DOTM Jetwing Optimus Prime this would've been tempting. I'm more interested in a good quality bee however and will keep an eye on that one.

DELTAprime
28th April 2017, 08:12 PM
Someone on Reddit posted this album. (https://imgur.com/a/Ms0bN) I'm not sure where some of the photos were taken. Note that the figure in the display box is mistransformed.

Ok, looks a little better, but that back pack still looks far less accurate than Buster. Maybe they didn't have instructions on hand?

DaptoDog
28th April 2017, 09:29 PM
Looks like I'm going to finally display some movie figures! While I would love some more G1 Masterpiece releases this will do just fine.

Handsprime
28th April 2017, 09:54 PM
RIP Wallet

At least it'll be a better purchase than most of the TLK line

Magnus
28th April 2017, 09:54 PM
Ok, looks a little better, but that back pack still looks far less accurate than Buster. Maybe they didn't have instructions on hand?

Found some more photos in the TFW2005 discussion thread: (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/first-look-at-mpm-optimus-prime.1100833/page-60#post-14555436)

http://i.imgur.com/Mz9ClWK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RaHUGC9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ABYamms.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/G547rhf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/j9SejCJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UYEZEBH.jpg

Someone used the profile photo to make a comparison shot with the RotF mould: (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/first-look-at-mpm-optimus-prime.1100833/page-60#post-14555450)

http://i.imgur.com/CDTgt8F.jpg


I've mirrored all the photos from those posts into this album. (https://imgur.com/a/xQATW)

hYpNoS
28th April 2017, 11:15 PM
Maybe its the fact I got the movie the best leader and itching to gattai him to jetfire but the mpm prime doesn't work for me, with the battlemask deployed he looks...off but with he put back he looks fine.

Need to wait and see more of him, otherwise I'll be selling a leader on ebay


Isn't this just a remould of the Voyager toy??? MPM toys are normally just a standard toy with a fancy paint job.

The first 2 mpm's were redeco'd LEADER class figure figures (well the bumblebee was "battle ops" bb but he was leader sized).

But leaders back then were marvels compared to today's leaders :D

doublespy
29th April 2017, 12:45 AM
With the huge official images now released, I was able to compare every part and limb of my Striker Optimus and the first release of that Leader mould, and there is nothing identical with the parts or sculpting. It's amazing at how each part is almost the same, especially the same bits of kibble in the same places, but there looks to be enough parts that are different to have a different transformation (to be a new design). Just like with most of the Movie Optimus toys, it's legs will be out the back and the arms up the front in truck mode, but beyond that, it should be mostly unique, but probably guided by the engineering of the Leader class toy (because it replicated the on-screen Optimus pretty well, so there wasn't much more you could improve on its appearance).
I stand corrected. The bottom half of the 'bot mode looks to have recycled the RotF Leader engineering, but the top half is mostly new engineering. It's great to see the front half of the truck nose actually transforms into his chest like Optimus did in the movie, with the headlights actually ending up on the chest.




I think the issue with the AoE leader mould is that Optimus was a new design that the toy designers didn't have enough time to work with to properly translate into a toy in time for its intended release. This is an issue with movieverse toys, and it's why figures in subsequent movies with the same CGI models are better. Examples are RotF leader Optimus and voyager Starscream, HftD leader Starscream and Battle Blades Bumblebee, and now TLK voyager Optimus.

Yep. That and the fact that HasTak was aiming for simplified transformation at the time. The over-compensation after the hot mess that was RotF:D At least for AoE the Takara designers were given a more finalized design than the first movie.


This looks to be shaping up as the definitive movie-verse MK1 Prime for me. Just when I thought the RotF Leader mold couldn't be improved enough to warrant an update, TakTom proves me wrong again.

ChlorHex
29th April 2017, 03:58 AM
With Weijiang showing what a bit more effort could do in churning out a fantastic figure for the previous movie's voyager mold plus making it leader class (and selling them like hot cakes)... it's awesome to see TT now upping their game to beat these 3rd party/KO lot.

This looks like a really enticing figure... gotta grab one!

Deonasis
29th April 2017, 10:19 AM
I can't wait for good photographers display all the dynamic and iconic poses this MP will pull off (note the double jointed knees). And some pics alongside the soon to be released MP movie Bumblebee will help too!

^Both these things will sway the naysayers.

This is no remold. Yes, parts occupy the same alt mode areas as ROTF prime but that's because those decisions make sense. Don't expect the legs to be made from the smokestacks just for 'originality'. This new MP is just design iteration.

I am not saying they got everything right (I wish they had used a different piece of the bonnet to form the abdomen) but I know they consider many things and sometimes they justify a decision beyond "it works" (a transformation homage etc).

Also, ROTF Prime is still most definitely a marvel for where engineering was in 2009(?) while still containing the electronic bulk.

Trent
29th April 2017, 01:40 PM
Looks nice.

Is it bad lighting or are they being pretty liberal with the Hasbro Grey plastic?

drifand
29th April 2017, 03:50 PM
I hate to say it but the paint apps is the down point for me for this figure.
Looks way too much plastic for my liking

Magnus
29th April 2017, 08:35 PM
@NOTRAB has posted more pictures, which were mirrored in the TFW2005 discussion thread. (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/first-look-at-mpm-optimus-prime.1100833/page-77#post-14558854) Now we have a size comparison with Jetwing Optimus.

http://i.imgur.com/NgeFdI2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DwiLOOC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7ATLZyn.jpg

I prefer to only have one version of a character's specific look, but looking at these pictures has seen me change from a 'no' to a 'maybe.'


Looks nice.

Is it bad lighting or are they being pretty liberal with the Hasbro Grey plastic?

The grey on this is darker than the typical 'Hasbro Grey', and some of the close-ups even seem to have metallic flecks in the plastic.


I hate to say it but the paint apps is the down point for me for this figure.
Looks way too much plastic for my liking

Nearly everything on this figure is coloured the way it should be. There's blue missing from the feet and the backs of the forearms should be red, and that's it from what I can see. If you paint a lot more parts, you could have an MP-36 situation where painted parts rub against each other and paint flakes or chips off.

If the right colour can be achieved with plastic, that's great - it'll bring the price down that little bit, and there's no risk of chipping.

drifand
29th April 2017, 09:24 PM
Well that's just me is a masterpiece not an action figure so I prefer better paint apps but the main thing is the smoke pipes are not chrome or silver , it doesn't feel like a masterpiece. But hey ignore me. If this is what you like then buy it.

kurdt_the_goat
29th April 2017, 09:41 PM
Who thinks the guy taking these photos totally did a runner from the event? :p I know i would! :D

I believe the MPM Bumblebee shown by Hasbro and TT at different shows had slightly different paint apps. Even though they've shown MPM boxes with TakaraTomy's logo as well as Hasbro's... i can't imagine the Japanese version won't be painted at least as well as Buster OP.

Hasbro's one is supposed to be only $99 USD, so i imagine that explains some of the lacking silver, maybe even the too thick pin stripes on the flames. TT one i'm expecting will be 15000Y+ if they go to town on it.

hYpNoS
30th April 2017, 01:11 AM
Well that's just me is a masterpiece not an action figure so I prefer better paint apps but the main thing is the smoke pipes are not chrome or silver , it doesn't feel like a masterpiece. But hey ignore me. If this is what you like then buy it.

Might be like as kurdt_the_goat is saying above me and perhaps there are 2 versions, the promo shots look silver (and personally the inhand as well) but a takara version may have those painted.

But I'd be worried if the smoke stacks are painted because they're retractable, how big is the clearance :confused:

drifand
30th April 2017, 12:10 PM
I guess the figure looks fine, I am more about the finishing of the product.

I just have to Wait and see.

GoktimusPrime
30th April 2017, 01:39 PM
Pass for me. Relative to price point* I don't think that this figure really adds more to the existing Leader Class ROTF and DOTM Optimus Primes. You all know that MP Optimus Primal was already a "hard sell" for me - I only ordered that toy at the last minute, and even now I still feel that the original Ultra Class figure is still on par with the MP relative to their respective prices (I also feel the same about the Generations BW figures). While MP Optimus Primal is a nice figure, it didn't encourage me to get any more BW MPs. I've seen and handled MP Cheetor IRL and yeah, it's great, but again relative to price I don't feel that it's a substantial improvement over the original. Not enough to make me want to get the toy.

I dunno, I think that when it comes to MPs I'm just going to stick with G1 because G1 toys "benefit" more from the MP upgrades whereas I don't really see the "benefit" from toys based on BW and beyond. MPM Optimus Prime looks like a great figure, and I'm happy for Movieverse fans who would love this toy, but not my cuppa tea. :o

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*Retail Price: US$99.99 - this is 2.5 times dearer than the RRP for a Leader Class figure. So expect to pay about AU$250 for this toy outside of the US. I'd estimate 20,000JPY (AU$245) if it were released by TakaraTOMY; definitely over AU$250 after sales tax and all this is without postage.

Chevron Action Flash
30th April 2017, 08:31 PM
Sorry, but these movie-verse characters and figures are just ugly as f***. To me these aren't 'Transformers', just some horrid, bastardised versions of much loved characters. They possess none of the charm of the Classic TF's. I understand that there is an audience out there for this stuff but I'm not a part of it.

griffin
7th June 2017, 05:13 PM
A photo of the toy in its plastic tray (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/06/takara-masterpiece-movie-optimus-prime-hand-picture-340859)... possibly a mockup to work out how best to package the toy, as it is still some way off from being released.

griffin
11th June 2017, 09:21 PM
The instructions have been revealed/leaked from an unknown source (the person who posted it here implies that they don't yet have it (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/10/masterpiece-movie-optimus-prime-instructions-341382)).

griffin
19th June 2017, 05:04 AM
Some photos of the toy in robot mode (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/17/masterpiece-movie-optimus-prime-hand-pictures-342054) have been leaked from China.

G1Optimal
24th June 2017, 02:54 PM
Username Tcracker from tfw2005
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/first-look-at-mpm-optimus-prime.1100833/page-177#post-14742566


has posted a video of transformation of mpm04 as there has been a early release of it https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=yki2nEC7jD4

And with weapons
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hds9psx4Ak4

Yongeltron
24th June 2017, 04:44 PM
Interesting. It definitely looks nice, but I don't know that it's sufficiently better than the ROTF mould (and it's various subsequent iterations) to justify the price. I think Goktimus is spot on when he compares it relative to price point.

I guess if the backpack on the ROTF leader REALLY bugs you, then it's probably worth it.:p

Omega Metro
24th June 2017, 08:09 PM
The truck mode looks way to long to me. Nice bot mode though. Unsure wether to get this or not.

Trent
25th June 2017, 08:14 AM
The truck mode looks way to long to me. Nice bot mode though. Unsure wether to get this or not.

The nose section is a bit too long compared to a real 379. Other then that it's pretty spot on proportionally.

griffin
4th July 2017, 12:39 PM
I think the release date of MP Optimus has been brought forward, to cash in on the movie before it disappears from theatres... as Amazon in Spain has it listed with a July 10th release (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/30/movie-masterpiece-optimus-prime-stock-july-10-spain-342931) (less than 3 weeks after the global release of Bumblebee), and as noted in recent posts above, some people have already been able to get their hands on one.

UltraMarginal
4th July 2017, 12:46 PM
I've not seen it listed at many online sites that I normally peruse for pre-order?

Trent
4th July 2017, 08:32 PM
I've not seen it listed at many online sites that I normally peruse for pre-order?

Is that because you peruse mainly Japan based sites? I don't think that Takara have announced that they are releasing this yet? I'm holding out for a Takara version with hopefully more paint.

Sinnertwin
4th July 2017, 08:36 PM
Both OP and BB are up on TFSource for all of that coin burning a hole in your pocket :p

Trent
4th July 2017, 08:40 PM
Both OP and BB are up on TFSource for all of that coin burning a hole in your pocket :p

Order from TFSource? Or eat my own flesh?

Hmm.

Sinnertwin
4th July 2017, 09:32 PM
Order from TFSource? Or eat my own flesh?

Hmm.

They've also got the Deluxe Pink Bumblebee/Laserbeak repaint for a measly $59.99! (https://tfsource.com/transformers-the-best/mbex-laserbeak-pink-bumblebee/)

Nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom!

Deano85
5th July 2017, 04:32 PM
Theres pre order up now on robotkingdom :)

http://www.robotkingdom.com/c0893h000.html

UltraMarginal
5th July 2017, 04:47 PM
Order from TFSource? Or eat my own flesh?

Hmm.

I don't get the hate, bad experience?
I've only ordered from them once but I've had great customer service fixing an issue with a improperly assembled figure.

ampoldj
5th July 2017, 06:05 PM
They've also got the Deluxe Pink Bumblebee/Laserbeak repaint for a measly $59.99! (https://tfsource.com/transformers-the-best/mbex-laserbeak-pink-bumblebee/)

Nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom!

A very expensive pink plastic :rolleyes: though i think it would look great with my bright yellow deluxe dotm bumblebee tokyo toy show exclusive :p

yoshi594
5th July 2017, 08:38 PM
This guy does a great review and comparison with the original rotf mould with the new mpm-4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UjhTHfE3UA

hYpNoS
5th July 2017, 11:09 PM
Is that because you peruse mainly Japan based sites? I don't think that Takara have announced that they are releasing this yet? I'm holding out for a Takara version with hopefully more paint.

From the looks of it the japanese version will be like the TLK mainline ie exactly the same but with stickers on the box.

...the only change I'd want other than more paint is proper clamshell packaging, the current one both mpm03 and 04 use is rubbish, but I doubt we'll get that

ampoldj
6th July 2017, 10:13 AM
^looks like Takara will just use the same box for these based on the info on TTmall's listing for MPM03 Bumblebee (W230×H153×D64mm). They will just probably slap some stickers with Japanese texts. Just not sure why Takara has not announced/listed Optimus yet :confused:

hYpNoS
6th July 2017, 09:26 PM
^looks like Takara will just use the same box for these based on the info on TTmall's listing for MPM03 Bumblebee (W230×H153×D64mm). They will just probably slap some stickers with Japanese texts. Just not sure why Takara has not announced/listed Optimus yet :confused:

Got a feeling optimus was rushed released, you know like when we get games released too early so retailers have to start pumping them out while whoever did it gets in trouble?

Perhaps prime for japan was intended for december or something, otherwise he would of taken black convoy's place

nsm034
22nd July 2017, 10:17 PM
http://www.anime-export.com/product/36832

same same but different ?

hYpNoS
23rd July 2017, 01:56 AM
http://www.anime-export.com/product/36832

same same but different ?

It'll feature the same differences much like mpm03, box text, warning information, manual going from cheap paper to glossy paper, slightly less trademark and warning info than hasbro version

Magnus
2nd August 2017, 09:50 PM
TakaraTOMY Mall now have their listing of MPM-4 up, which includes stock photos. (http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810891857/)

The Takara version looks to have some extra paint over the Hasbro version, as well as light blue pinstriping on the flames instead of the Hasbro version's silver. The grey plastic looks lighter, too.

Interestingly, their stock photos still have the exposed grey hinges below the windscreens on the chest, where those hinges were concealed on the final Hasbro version. I've read some speculation online that modifications to conceal the hinges just before the figure went into production may have been responsible for the misalignment issues that plague many examples of the Hasbro version.

hYpNoS
2nd August 2017, 10:49 PM
Craaaaap.

HLJ, amiami and hobbysearch are on order stop, can I trust Anime exporter or is it just a japanese version of they who must never be mentioned?

Unless anyone else has suggestions...don't want to fall back on using a proxy service, NEED mpm04 to match my takara mpm03

drifand
3rd August 2017, 01:17 PM
Craaaaap.

HLJ, amiami and hobbysearch are on order stop, can I trust Anime exporter or is it just a japanese version of they who must never be mentioned?

Unless anyone else has suggestions...don't want to fall back on using a proxy service, NEED mpm04 to match my takara mpm03

When you buy AE just buy it and dont change your mind. If you cool with that, no issues. Once you start altering the order or change your mind is where hell breaks loose.

IMO get it and juts stick with it.

Dal157
4th August 2017, 11:41 AM
I'm not sure about this figure tbh....

I've recently become a fan of the movie figures but after hearing the reviews online about the truck mode panels not lining up I'm about 50/50 on this one.

If the Takara version fixes this issue, I think it's a must buy for movie fans

drifand
4th August 2017, 12:51 PM
I'm not sure about this figure tbh....

I've recently become a fan of the movie figures but after hearing the reviews online about the truck mode panels not lining up I'm about 50/50 on this one.

If the Takara version fixes this issue, I think it's a must buy for movie fans

is a skip for me, I seen mpm-bee and they screwed up with two right arm joints. To me, it amazes me that for the highest line is still having defects.
I am now worried about sunstreaker.

Amalgamous
4th August 2017, 08:43 PM
Potential fix for vehicle mode alignment issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ40We6PYyQ

hYpNoS
4th August 2017, 11:53 PM
When you buy AE just buy it and dont change your mind. If you cool with that, no issues. Once you start altering the order or change your mind is where hell breaks loose.

IMO get it and juts stick with it.

I just hope I don't get sent another bumblebee or something, damnit I had to be watching the wrong page at the wrong time and miss second chance with amiami too didn't I, nothing from nippon yassan either :c


Potential fix for vehicle mode alignment issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ40We6PYyQ

From what some are saying even that doesn't work, it seems to vary from figure to figure.

griffin
24th August 2017, 08:41 PM
The Japanese version has been shown in a recent Japanese hobby magazine (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/08/23/figure-oh-235-scans-mpm-04-optimus-prime-347365), and it appears to have some very subtle differences to the Hasbro version.
Apparently it has a slightly different grey... and maybe some other minor differences like the MP Bumblebee.

hYpNoS
24th August 2017, 11:20 PM
The rings around the feet are blue rather than silver on the hasbro version and the lights on the abs are yellow/gold.

Shame I missed out on the pre-order window for him :(

Magnus
28th August 2017, 11:08 PM
These pictures have the hinges below the windscreens hidden again, as opposed to the exposed hinges on the stock photos on the TakaraTOMY Mall website.

While the lighter grey blends better with the silver and is therefore more screen-accurate than the dark grey of the Hasbro version, this grey plastic seems kind of dull. The slightly darker grey plastic of the stock photos looked better, in my opinion.


Shame I missed out on the pre-order window for him :(

You could look at Japanese retailers on eBay to see if any will be offering pre-orders - that's what I did for Calibur Optimus.

hYpNoS
17th September 2017, 06:18 PM
These pictures have the hinges below the windscreens hidden again, as opposed to the exposed hinges on the stock photos on the TakaraTOMY Mall website.

While the lighter grey blends better with the silver and is therefore more screen-accurate than the dark grey of the Hasbro version, this grey plastic seems kind of dull. The slightly darker grey plastic of the stock photos looked better, in my opinion.



You could look at Japanese retailers on eBay to see if any will be offering pre-orders - that's what I did for Calibur Optimus.

Oh mine is inbound...from amiami, them and hlj opened up briefly allowing me to snag one.

The pictures floating around match the show pictures but because they're from foreign sites dunno if the qc issues from the mass asia release are the same or not, looking forward to having him in hand

hYpNoS
19th September 2017, 10:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKt6l1Y1wr8

While mine arrives (Only just started shipping alongside mp artfire) been trying to understand this cross comparison since he's had both (he modified his hasbro release because of the gap issues).

All that I understood about the differences are

-More "complete" deco in robot mode (yellow spots on abs, blue rings on feet, and a TINY autobot tampo in the middle of the abs)
-Light grey plastic instead of the dark grey previously used which helps certain sections like the gastanks blend in better
-Box text differs such as name bar in Japanese and botton of box features Japanese warning box much like normal mp's and mpm03
-Manual differs (?) much like mpm03
-Something about the tray??? (kinda looks like he comes in truck mode and its in a proper clamshell but I've only seen prime standing upright in the english/asia version so no idea if this was a change or exactly the same but he pointed it out briefly)

Can't tell if the tabbing is any better or worse but he does point out a misaligned section on the truck cab, overall I cannot wait for mine to come!

EDIT:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76virLhQ5do

Another youtuber pulling him straight out of the BOX IN TRUCK MODE...but it features similar miss-tabbing, I presume they all have similar issues to the hasbro version out of the box or that's transport shuffling.

Only way to know is to transform him to robot and back it seems

Amalgamous
20th September 2017, 09:01 PM
Hasbro, had the window gap until the two door sections, joined, where tabbed in last.
https://image.ibb.co/eVgDKQ/OP.jpg

hYpNoS
29th September 2017, 12:45 AM
As another guy in the vic thread pointed out we're getting mpm04 (hasbro version of course) at zing for $198 in October

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/toys---gadgets-233286-Transformers---Optimus-Prime-6-10th-Anniversary-Movie-Masterpiece-Series-Figure-Toys--Gadgets

If you want to support local retail and or have a preference for the hasbro version its up for grabs.

I'll be picking up my japanese version tommorow and see for myself what the problems are like, really as long as bot mode holds im fine

G1Optimal
29th September 2017, 04:30 PM
If you want just for bot mode there is a high chance you will like it a lot.
I got the hasbro version sure the vehicle mode has some problems but robot mode is what i got it for.:)

Sunsurge
29th September 2017, 07:29 PM
As another guy in the vic thread pointed out we're getting mpm04 (hasbro version of course) at zing for $198 in October

https://www.zingpopculture.com.au/toys---gadgets-233286-Transformers---Optimus-Prime-6-10th-Anniversary-Movie-Masterpiece-Series-Figure-Toys--Gadgets

If you want to support local retail and or have a preference for the hasbro version its up for grabs.

I'll be picking up my japanese version tommorow and see for myself what the problems are like, really as long as bot mode holds im fine

I would love to support local business, I really would. But $198 for the Hasbro version?

Amalgamous
29th September 2017, 08:05 PM
What can be done to protect the paint on his feet in robot form?