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Darkness
30th May 2017, 08:12 PM
Seen a facebook post from the falcons hanger mentioning mp12+ in November for 8500 jpy

Info and image from facebook Mirrored here (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/confirmation-of-mp12-sideswipe-and-takara-legends-misfire-sixshot-broadside-doublecross/38281/).

Sinnertwin
30th May 2017, 08:18 PM
Looks that way


http://i.imgur.com/s0k8uhp.jpg

yoshi594
30th May 2017, 08:18 PM
isn't mp12 sideswipe? i bet it's to incorporate the new car stuff from sunstreaker (doors sliding up, being able to open the hood, and whateva else)

Sinnertwin
30th May 2017, 08:20 PM
isn't mp12 sideswipe? i bet it's to incorporate the new car stuff from sunstreaker (doors sliding up, being able to open the hood, and whateva else)

it is. but seeing as though the newer mp's are going cartoon accurate, makes sense to release his brother around the same time in cartoon paint apps. i doubt they'd redesign the existing MP12 figure though.

Darkness
30th May 2017, 08:22 PM
isn't mp12 sideswipe? i bet it's to incorporate the new car stuff from sunstreaker (doors sliding up, being able to open the hood, and whateva else)

He wouldn't be priced at 8500 vs sunstreaker' 12000 with those upgrades. Different moulds too

Omega Metro
30th May 2017, 08:23 PM
Cool. I need to replace my knock off Sideswipe.;)

yoshi594
30th May 2017, 08:29 PM
ah good point about the price. ah i forgot red alert was also a "+" figure. For some reason i thought they did mp-14A.

Darkness
30th May 2017, 08:38 PM
I'm guessing the headlights will be painted white to match the toon character like they did mp14+.

Bumblebee2000
30th May 2017, 09:03 PM
Only own the G2 version of this mold so I'll welcome a chance to get the original. Of course I don't have half as many MPs as I'd like so what actually happens is another thing.

Although if the + line isn't dead, where is Wheeljack at? Sure a lot of people would kill for an MP36 - too.

hYpNoS
30th May 2017, 09:24 PM
I can't see this being drastically different, though I admit redalert's + version was more significant than expected

Initial_G
30th May 2017, 09:49 PM
Suspect "+" version would be more toon accurate ... though not much colours to change on Sideswipe ... unless they just make it more matte red?

I'm half expecting a mp-10+ to match MP-36 lol

Trent
30th May 2017, 09:53 PM
Can't say I was impressed with MP-14+. It just looks dull. I hope Sideswipe + is the same because I don't want to have to buy him again.

ZoonMaster5000
30th May 2017, 10:31 PM
Seen a facebook post from the falcons hanger mentioning mp12+ in November for 8500 jpy

Just seen this confirming the price plus a few other goodies mentioned.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/Zoonmaster5000/E861AFAA-AA92-430D-8F5B-C35B20D858C8_zpsr0nozabi.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/Zoonmaster5000/media/E861AFAA-AA92-430D-8F5B-C35B20D858C8_zpsr0nozabi.jpg.html)

DELTAprime
30th May 2017, 10:42 PM
What would you do different to make Sideswipe more cartoon accurate? Unlike Red Alert he's already fairly cartoon accurate.

Anyway I'm more interested in those LG figures, except for Six Shot since I got the Hasbro version since I'm not too worried about cartoon accuracy for him cause he got about six seconds of on-screen time. Also not worried about Doublecross cause he never was in The Rebirth.

Darkness
30th May 2017, 11:38 PM
What would you do different to make Sideswipe more cartoon accurate? Unlike Red Alert he's already fairly cartoon accurate.

Paint the headlights, kneepads, and feet white? 🤣
I'll wait and see what's presented then decide. I'll most likely pass on this.

Darkness
30th May 2017, 11:42 PM
Can't say I was impressed with MP-14+. It just looks dull. I hope Sideswipe + is the same because I don't want to have to buy him again.

Mp14+ fits very nicely with mp inferno when using his white grill and nozzle

Kranix
31st May 2017, 11:01 AM
Can't say I was impressed with MP-14+. It just looks dull. I hope Sideswipe + is the same because I don't want to have to buy him again.

I personally disliked MP14+, I thought the original was better. I am curious to see how they make MP12 more toon accurate without making physical changes.

Ralph Wiggum
31st May 2017, 11:06 AM
I've said before that my vision of the MP line has been a combination of real world alt mode detail with cartoon accurate bot modes. As such the + line and cartoon appearance accessories has never appealed to me.
My only dilemma would be a MP11+ Starscream as the current grey version is so bleh.

Magnus
31st May 2017, 02:41 PM
Although if the + line isn't dead, where is Wheeljack at? Sure a lot of people would kill for an MP36 - too.

I figured a MP+ Wheeljack with a simplified, screen-accurate colour scheme would be a thing as soon as MP14+ was announced. I'm surprised it hasn't been announced yet.

Megatron's colour scheme is already pretty screen-accurate, and the figure even uses the cartoon version of the Decepticon emblem with three central spikes instead of the traditional version with two central spikes. A MP+ version doesn't seem necessary.



My only dilemma would be a MP11+ Starscream as the current grey version is so bleh.

MP-11's colour scheme is pretty screen-accurate. I don't see how you could improve the colour scheme and make it 'more screen-accurate'. TakaraTOMY could paint the figure grey instead of having unpainted plastic, but that wouldn't really improve the colour.

Other
31st May 2017, 03:24 PM
I can see them doing an MP+ of Wheeljack when they have a figure to pair him with. So far all MP+ releases have been released alongside a figure they were connected to who had a different enough aesthetic the original release might clash with the new MP. Although I couldn't hazard a guess as to who that could be given who's left of the 84-85 characters.

griffin
31st May 2017, 04:03 PM
I can see them doing an MP+ of Wheeljack when they have a figure to pair him with. So far all MP+ releases have been released alongside a figure they were connected to who had a different enough aesthetic the original release might clash with the new MP. Although I couldn't hazard a guess as to who that could be given who's left of the 84-85 characters.

That could be Bumblebee, done in a pale cartoon yellow... since those two were the first two characters seen in the cartoon universe on the first episode.

Sinnertwin
31st May 2017, 04:07 PM
That could be Bumblebee, done in a pale cartoon yellow... since those two were the first two characters seen in the cartoon universe on the first episode.

More Bumblebees. Yay.
(x_x) ...

:p

Lord_Zed
31st May 2017, 06:59 PM
I can see them doing an MP+ of Wheeljack when they have a figure to pair him with. So far all MP+ releases have been released alongside a figure they were connected to who had a different enough aesthetic the original release might clash with the new MP. Although I couldn't hazard a guess as to who that could be given who's left of the 84-85 characters.

I agree, Wheeljack's toon markings differ quite a bit from the actual car he's based on , Wheeljack is one that feels like a matter for time for this silly new toon obsession MP's are going down.

Who knows, maybe they will make MP Perceptor and re-do Wheeljack's colours then for your Autobot science and engineering team.

DELTAprime
31st May 2017, 07:39 PM
I have my fingers crossed for a cartoon accurate Wheeljack. The difference between the cartoon and the MP have always bothered me. As for Bumblebee, I'd like a heavy remould to make his alt mode look more like the Penny Racer he was in the show. Maybe we could get that with a MP Cliffjumper.

GoktimusPrime
31st May 2017, 07:58 PM
I personally like my current MP Wheeljack. Simplifying it for slavish cartoon accuracy doesn't appeal to me at all. But anyway, here's a comparison between Wheeljack's cartoon model vs MP figure.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Masterpiece%20Wheeljack/mp_wheeljack12_zpsbaa66263.jpg

As for Bumblebee, I'd like a heavy remould to make his alt mode look more like the Penny Racer he was in the show. Maybe we could get that with a MP Cliffjumper.
I suspect that licensing issues might prevent that from happening. I personally prefer realistic looking vehicles as they look more like robots in disguise (http://starmoz.com/images/porsche-924-turbo-17.jpg). :)

DELTAprime
31st May 2017, 08:05 PM
I suspect that licensing issues might prevent that from happening. I personally prefer realistic looking vehicles as they look more like robots in disguise (http://starmoz.com/images/porsche-924-turbo-17.jpg). :)

A Penny Racer design should be unlicenced just like the original G1 toys so no issue with licence there.

EDIT: On further inspection while most Penny Racers are unlicensed there are a few that are licenced including VW's by Tomy. So unless transforming Penny Racers are a specific issue (which they always could be) it should be fine.

nsm034
1st June 2017, 06:59 AM
is this a jap release or china ?

GoktimusPrime
1st June 2017, 10:13 AM
Given that the image posted on post #1 has text written in Japanese, I'd say Japan.

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
1st June 2017, 01:01 PM
Just a new paintjob and all piledriver types included (https://mobile.twitter.com/amiamihobbynews/status/870110806905561089):

http://i.imgur.com/jhrEVGX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gE0ZI7c.jpg

DarkHyren
1st June 2017, 01:09 PM
So literally Malibu Stacey with new hat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8) is what we have here...

I guess it's ok for those that don't have one already, but for everyone else that does (which I'd say is a large amount by now) I don't see much incentive to buy this

DELTAprime
1st June 2017, 02:32 PM
Maybe I'll use my Energon Points at PC on this. I love cartoon accurate, but this such a minor upgrade.

EDIT: Nope, still would have to pay over $30 even with my Energon Points, not worth it.

Sinnertwin
1st June 2017, 02:42 PM
So literally Malibu Stacey with new hat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8) is what we have here...

I guess it's ok for those that don't have one already, but for everyone else that does (which I'd say is a large amount by now) I don't see much incentive to buy this



Cartoon style Jet Judo!!!

griffin
1st June 2017, 03:30 PM
It's certainly less different than MP (Red) Alert's anime edition. The red may be slightly different, but the only colour changes are the silver parts changed to white (shoulders, gun, feet, shins), and the elbow joints.
I had very very very little interest in getting Anime Alert... there is even less interest in getting this one.

Darkness
1st June 2017, 03:40 PM
It's certainly less different than MP (Red) Alert's anime edition. The red may be slightly different, but the only colour changes are the silver parts changed to white (shoulders, gun, feet, shins), and the elbow joints.
I had very very very little interest in getting Anime Alert... there is even less interest in getting this one.

I have zero interest in mp12+. Mp12 will do just fine

drifand
1st June 2017, 08:50 PM
Disappointed, thought they will do new faces etc.

Skip

Jazzman
2nd June 2017, 12:58 AM
Yeah, not a lot of interest in this guy for me - although I did grab the + version of Red Alert (and I think he really benefited from the Anime correct colour). You know what would be really nice? A + version of Soundwave with white parts instead of silver :D

ampoldj
2nd June 2017, 01:25 AM
It's certainly less different than MP (Red) Alert's anime edition. The red may be slightly different, but the only colour changes are the silver parts changed to white (shoulders, gun, feet, shins), and the elbow joints.
I had very very very little interest in getting Anime Alert... there is even less interest in getting this one.

The tyre also look gray-ish as well :confused:

Darkness
2nd June 2017, 09:17 AM
Yeah, not a lot of interest in this guy for me - although I did grab the + version of Red Alert (and I think he really benefited from the Anime correct colour). You know what would be really nice? A + version of Soundwave with white parts instead of silver :D

I agree about mp14+ he does look good on a shelf amongst the later released figures that have gone for an even greater toon accuracy look.

philby
2nd June 2017, 12:59 PM
Add me to the not interested camp :)

MayzaPrime
2nd June 2017, 01:27 PM
I got MP14+ and I liked it... I am not so sure about this one

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
3rd June 2017, 04:30 AM
Preorder up at the Little Toy Company for AU$85 -- cheaper than PC!:

https://www.thelittletoycompany.com.au/transformers-preorders/transformers-takara-mp-12-masterpiece-sideswipe-pre-order-

Not sure if PC still honours the 10% off price match guarantee (https://www.premiumcollectables.com.au/blogs/news/15976820-lowest-price-gurantee), for those willing to take a gamble...

MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
5th June 2017, 02:31 AM
Stock photos (http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/392903/):

http://i.imgur.com/aNW99gO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3jpuzVv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eL15dEl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Y1oXmmh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XNfOcbZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xhqiPXl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cS0BInu.jpg

MayzaPrime
5th June 2017, 01:22 PM
Man... That red does look nice...

ampoldj
5th June 2017, 01:46 PM
No comparison pics yet with MP12 :confused:

aching878
5th June 2017, 01:59 PM
Stock photos (http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/392903/):
http://i.imgur.com/Y1oXmmh.jpg



No comparison pics yet with MP12 :confused:

http://i.imgur.com/i3MMUcvl.jpg

Borgeman
5th June 2017, 02:09 PM
Well tbh I've always lamented not being able to show off both modes of the MP cars as I believe the alt modes are just as deserving. At least a slow trickle of any MP+ toys allows me that luxury while being able to cope with the extra outlay :p

Borgeman
5th June 2017, 03:36 PM
mp39 and mp12+

http://i.imgur.com/W7I10r2.gif

Ark-Ivor
5th June 2017, 08:15 PM
And here's a Translation of MP-12+ Tomy Mall entry - Probably not the right place to post it, but I haven't found the MP-12+ thread yet and it does reference Sunstreaker.

Of note is that, apart from being a recolour, this version of MP Sideswipe has an extra moulding detail none of the others did. A simple hole in the strut the connects its windows/roof to the rest of the body, that now allows it to be mounted on the "Transformers Specific" posing stand (the one that has a clear version sold separately or included with Tracks in black & Loud Pedal in transparent-purple. Its a shame that he still doesn't get his Jet-Pack and that neither he nor Sunstreaker also come with the parachute they (and earlier Mirage) use.

トランスフォーマー マスターピース MP-12+ ランボル Transformers Masterpiece MP-12+ Lambor
販売価格 Sales Price : ¥9,180
商品番号 Item Number : 4904810975953
メーカー Manufacturer : タカラトミー TakaraTomy
ブランド Brand : トランスフォーマー Transformers
対象年齢 Target Age : 15歳~ 15+ Years Old
獲得ポイント Point Earned : 85ポイント 85 points
パッケージサイズ Package Dimensions : W240×H240×D85mm
発売日 Release Date : 2017年11月下旬 2017-11 Late
サンストリーカー登場に合わせ、ランボルが+(プラス)仕様で再登場! In conjunction with the arrival of Sunstreaker, Lambor is being rereleased with + (plus) specifications!
赤いランボルギーニカウンタックLP500Sからロボットに変形する、人気のランボルがアニメカラーバージ ョンになりました! Transforms from a red Lamborghini Countach LP500S to a robot, the popular Lambor is now in his animated colour version!
よりアニメ設定に合わせたカラーリングに変更し、特にロボットモードのキャラクターイメージを高めています 。 Colours have been changed to match his animated appearance, especially enhancing the character look in robot mode.

ランボル得意のパワフルな掘削シーンを再現するパイルドライバーも「インセクトロンの謎 Ver.」「対決!!ダイノボット PART II Ver.」の2種類だけでなく、「ダイノボット誕生! Ver.」のパイルドライバーも加えた3種類のパイルドライバーが付属します!
Also included are the reproduction pile driver versions from Lambor's big excavation scenes "Insectron Mystery" & "War of the Dinobots pt2" But not only those two types, also included is the version from "Creation of the Dinobots". All three types of pile drivers are included!
兄弟分のサンストリーカーとのコンビネーションで見せた空中殺法を再現するために、ランボルとしては初めて 背部に別売りスタンド用のジョイント穴を装備しています。 In order to reproduce the Jet-Judo shown in teamwork with his brother Sunstreaker, for the first time Lambor is equipped with a joint hole on the back for the stand which is sold separately.

同時期発売のサンストリーカーと並べてカウンタック同士のカーチェイスを再現したり、ロボットモードで兄弟 のように息の合ったワイルドな活躍シーンを想像するのも楽しみです。 In conjunction with the release of Sunstreaker the side by side Countachs can reproduce the car chases, I am also looking forward to recreating wildly imaginative scenes of the brothers in their robot modes.

商品内容 Package Contents ランボル本体 Lambor Body (1)、フレアーガン Flare Gun (1)、ミサイルランチャー Missile Launcher (1)、パイルドライバーA Pile Driver A (2)、パイルドライバーB Pile Driver B (2)、パイルドライバーC Pile Driver C (2)、キャラクターカード Character Card (1)、取扱説明書 Instruction Manual (1)
著作権 Copyright © TOMY
© The trademarks copyrights and design rights in and associated with Lamborghini, Lamborghini with Bull and Shield Device, are used under license from Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A.

Ark-Ivor
6th June 2017, 12:45 PM
Thanks for moving the translation to the correct thread :)

griffin
24th June 2017, 03:04 AM
TakaraTomy have posted on their site (http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_mp/mp-12plus) a 360 view of this toy, plus all the accessories (which can also be seen here (http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/06/22/takara-masterpiece-mp-12-lambor-sideswipe-extra-images-360-view-342430), when it gets taken down later from the TT site).